Dear God... Please let us play the Chiefs in Arrowhead in the first round playoffs

[Taco John]

...This is all I want... A chance to right the wrongs of the last time we played and dominated them in their house, but walked away with a loss. I want to see us first and goal at the four again, and watch Portis pound it in... I want to see the refs call all the clips they see... I want to watch Dick crying on the sidelines as we trounce them by double digits. I want to see Portis take Holmes over his knee and give him the belt...

I just want to beat the Chiefs in their house in the playoffs...

They are the only team I have absolutely no fear of in the post season.

[Bronco LB 59]

If this scenario plays out, it will make my season.

[Sassy]

Dear God....Please let us beat Indy and GB first!!!

[AboveAverage]

I'd rather go to Kansas City than Cincinnati.

[Darkhawk24]

TJ I agree with you. I also have no doubt in my mind that we would beat them too. I know deep down Chief fans don't want any part of Portis in the playoffs. Tell me what RB in this group you fear the most,

(A. Smith/F. Faulk, E. James, R. Johnson/C. Dillon, E. George, or C. Portis)

[Taco John]

Originally posted by Sassy
Dear God....Please let us beat Indy and GB first!!!



However it needs to happen to get KC in round one... If that means we win out, or lose one, or whatever... I just want KC in round one.

[521 1N5]

Originally posted by Taco John


They are the only team I have absolutely no fear of in the post season.

AGREED.

[ZachKC]

You are more than welcome to dig up the past and talk about a team thats is totally different frmo this one.

But in our house...you won't win.

[Old Dude]

Okay, let's see.

Most likely scenario from here:

1. Indy beats us.
2. Rams beat the Bengals.
3. Buffalo, at home, finishes off Miami.
4. Ravens beat the Browns.
5. Tennessee beats Houston.
6. KC drops one to the Vikes.
7. Pats wrap up HFA with win over the Jets.

Then:

1. We beat Green Bay. Finish 10-6.
2. Ravens knock off Pittsburgh. Finish 10-6.
3. Titans beat Bucs and finish 12-4.
4. Colts beat Texans and finish 13-3.
5. Chiefs beat Bears and finish 13-3.
6. Cincy beats Cleveland and finishes 9-7.
7. Miami beats Jets and finishes 9-7.
8. Pats beat Bills and finish 14-2.

Fins and Bengals eliminated.

New England would get top seed.
Colts would get second seed over the Chiefs based on better record vs. common opponents (and KC loss to Denver would be the critical tiebreaker)

Chiefs get 3d seed.
Ravens get 4th seed.
Titans get 5th seed (as wild card)
Broncos get 6th seed (as wild card)

Week One:

Tennessee at Baltimore
Denver at Kansas City.

Yup, it could happen.

[ZachKC]

I bet the Jets beat the Patriots....you heard it here first folks.

[SJ Bronco]

So your saying, we will be the reason KC doesn't get a bye week? And they said the game ment nothing?? LMMFAO!!!!

[Rohirrim]

Amen to getting the Chafes in Arrowdump. Then, I'd like to go to Baltimore and shove the ball down those stinking Ratbird's throats for once. THE PAYBACK CAMPAIGN!

[ZachKC]

Who said the game meant nothing??

[Spider]

Denver Beating the Chiefs @ Narrowhead stadium in the Playoffs ....... ROFL! .That would kill Chief fan ;D

[ZachKC]

SJ...who said this game meant nothing...

[Sassy]

I'd like to play KC again, but it would be interesting to play the Ravens with Jake instead of our backup QB's.

[Greenrt]

I just hope the opprotunity presents itself.

I think if we could get lelie on a couple early long balls it would help our chances with Indy. I do not want to have to go to GB if they are in a must win situation.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Greenrt
I just hope the opprotunity presents itself.

I think if we could get lelie on a couple early long balls it would help our chances with Indy. I do not want to have to go to GB if they are in a must win situation.

So you are saying if you got 14-21 points early it would help your chances...thanks for your contribution to this thread

[Phat Endy]

I disagree. Camerohead is the last place I want to go. I think that belt business would have KC ready to leave it all on the field.

I'd rather go to New England and play a team we almost beat with Danny Kannell.

That's just my opinion though. ???

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC
You are more than welcome to dig up the past and talk about a team thats is totally different frmo this one.

But in our house...you won't win.


Whe needs to dig up the past when your team is presently afraid to see us again?

[ZachKC]

You need to dig up the past...your team can't beat the Chiefs on the road.

[Spider]

Originally posted by ZachKC


So you are saying if you got 14-21 points early it would help your chances...thanks for your contribution to this thread
Would this be better .......... Shanny matches up Lelie/ Sharpe on Doss with a slot Motion , out of a 2 Back 3 wr set or 2 back 2 wr 1 TE formations ..... This should give us plenty of lanes with a mobil QB to attack the colts secondary , in both rushing and passing .........Or we could go a Twin WR out of a Power I and Use Droughns in Motion ...... That would tie up Doss on Shapre allowing some real good Running lanes

[Sassy]

Originally posted by ZachKC
You need to dig up the past...your team can't beat the Chiefs on the road.
We did "beat" the chefs, we just didn't win the game.;D

[Old Dude]

Originally posted by ZachKC
I bet the Jets beat the Patriots....you heard it here first folks.

Let's assume that happens, but that things go otherwise as I posted above.

Chiefs, Colts and Patriots would all finish 13-3.

They'd all have the same confernce record - each with 2 AFC losses and 1 NFC loss.

They'd have 3 common opponents between themselves (Denver, Buffalo and Houston). This gets funky. The tiebreaker says "minimum of 4" but I'm not sure whether they mean 4 common opponents or 4 common games. If it's 4 common opponents, we skip down tothe next tiebreaker. If it's just 4 common games, then the Chiefs would be 3-1, the Pats would be 3-1, and the Colts would be 4-0.

So Pats and Chiefs would go to "strength of victory" rules.

At the moment, the Chief's S.O.V. rating is 6 (2 over the Chargers) + 8 (two over the Raiders) + 9 (one over the Broncos) + 8 (Ravens) + 8 (Packers) + 6 (Bills) + 5 (Texans) +4 (Browns) + 4 (Lions) for total of 53.

At the moment, the Pat's S.O.V. rating is 11 (Eagles) + 6 (Jets) + 10 (Titans) + 9 (Broncos) + 4 (Browns) + 16 (2 over Dolphins), + 4 (Giants) + 5 (Texans) + 9 (Dallas) +11 (Colts) + 4 (Jags) for a total of 89.

Not even close.

Unless the Chiefs win out, they really need the Broncos to knock off the Colts this week in order to get a first round BYE.

Ironic, huh?

[Taco John]

Originally posted by Sassy
I'd like to play KC again, but it would be interesting to play the Ravens with Jake instead of our backup QB's.



No thanks... The Ravens are the last team I want to face... I have no desire to meet the Ravens in a win or go home situation.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John



Whe needs to dig up the past when your team is presently afraid to see us again?

You see in Kansas City we have something call homefield advantage. I udnerstand you think you are an amazing team for winning your superbowl game against us...

But we avoid letting teams like the Bears walk into our house and throw us around.

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC
You need to dig up the past...your team can't beat the Chiefs on the road.


Sure we can. We've done it before... We can do it again.

Don't forget, we dominated you guys in your house last time. You guys didn't show us anything to indicated that we couldn't do the same again.

Plus with your lazy defense, there's no reason to believe you guys will be able to stop Portis.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Old Dude


Let's assume that happens, but that things go otherwise as I posted above.

Chiefs, Colts and Patriots would all finish 13-3.

They'd all have the same confernce record - each with 2 AFC losses and 1 NFC loss.

They'd have 3 common opponents between themselves (Denver, Buffalo and Houston). This gets funky. The tiebreaker says "minimum of 4" but I'm not sure whether they mean 4 common opponents or 4 common games. If it's 4 common opponents, we skip down tothe next tiebreaker. If it's just 4 common games, then the Chiefs would be 3-1, the Pats would be 3-1, and the Colts would be 4-0.

So Pats and Chiefs would go to "strength of victory" rules.

At the moment, the Chief's S.O.V. rating is 6 (2 over the Chargers) + 8 (two over the Raiders) + 9 (one over the Broncos) + 8 (Ravens) + 8 (Packers) + 6 (Bills) + 5 (Texans) +4 (Browns) + 4 (Lions) for total of 53.

At the moment, the Pat's S.O.V. rating is 11 (Eagles) + 6 (Jets) + 10 (Titans) + 9 (Broncos) + 4 (Browns) + 16 (2 over Dolphins), + 4 (Giants) + 5 (Texans) + 9 (Dallas) +11 (Colts) + 4 (Jags) for a total of 89.

Not even close.

Unless the Chiefs win out, they really need the Broncos to knock off the Colts this week in order to get a first round BYE.

Ironic, huh?

It is my understanding from reading the newspapers and from different threads on the Planet that for the Chiefs to get homefield advantage the Colts don't really matter.

We need to win and have the Pats lose either of their games.

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC


You see in Kansas City we have something call homefield advantage. I udnerstand you think you are an amazing team for winning your superbowl game against us...

But we avoid letting teams like the Bears walk into our house and throw us around.



Your homefield advantage evaporates in the playoffs when Arrowhead turns into a pressure cooker. I understand that you think that Dick Vermiel is going to be able to keep the atmosphere from being a pressure cooker... But we both know that his presence will serve only to increase that pressure.

The Detroit Lions of the AFC will stay home one and done... True to their nature as the Cubs of the NFL.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John



Sure we can. We've done it before... We can do it again.

Don't forget, we dominated you guys in your house last time. You guys didn't show us anything to indicated that we couldn't do the same again.

Plus with your lazy defense, there's no reason to believe you guys will be able to stop Portis.

Taco I am sorry your special teams can't tackle no reason to get mad at me over it...

24-23

Chiefs can't be beat in Arrowhead.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John




Your homefield advantage evaporates in the playoffs when Arrowhead turns into a pressure cooker. I understand that you think that Dick Vermiel is going to be able to keep the atmosphere from being a pressure cooker... But we both know that his presence will serve only to increase that pressure.

The Detroit Lions of the AFC will stay home one and done... True to their nature as the Cubs of the NFL.

Its the NFL in the playoffs...of course its pressure.

The fact that we have one of the best QB's in the NFL will help out...

[Darkhawk24]

Originally posted by ZachKC


You see in Kansas City we have something call homefield advantage. I udnerstand you think you are an amazing team for winning your superbowl game against us...

You think the Chiefs Defense can stop any RB right about now? Bryson came into your house and got over 100. It's ok be proud of your cheap 1 point win over us we sure enjoyed our near 3 TD win. _i_O_i_

[AboveAverage]

Originally posted by ZachKC


Its the NFL in the playoffs...of course its pressure.

The fact that we have one of the best QB's in the NFL will help out...

LOL :laugh: Ha! rofl :stupid: :bangin: :laugh: :giggle: LOL Ha!

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC


Taco I am sorry your special teams can't tackle no reason to get mad at me over it...

24-23

Chiefs can't be beat in Arrowhead.



Eh... The clips on that play are well documented by both Broncos fans and the NFL media. No need for me to get mad. I just want to get even.

We both know that your team does not want to see us in Arrowhead this year.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Darkhawk24


You think the Chiefs Defense can stop any RB right about now? Bryson came into your house and got over 100. It's ok be proud of your cheap 1 point win over us we sure enjoyed our near 3 TD win. _i_O_i_

We will give up yards all day...but what they were doing is keeping them out of the endzone like earlier in year...

We don't need a good defense with this offense.

The Chiefs won't be beat in Arrowhead.

[AboveAverage]

If I didn't already have a great sig line, you'd be in my sig Zach!

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC


The fact that we have one of the best QB's in the NFL will help out...



LOL :laugh: LOL :pigsfly: LOL :laugh: :pigsfly: rofl




I didn't expect you to bust out with the comedy relief!

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John




Eh... The clips on that play are well documented by both Broncos fans and the NFL media. No need for me to get mad. I just want to get even.

We both know that your team does not want to see us in Arrowhead this year.

Tell Portis to take his midol and come to KC...becuase he can't win in Arrowhead.

[Darkhawk24]

When did Hinz hack into Zach's account!?!

[ZachKC]

I wouldn't have believed in before the season but Trent has shown that he is one of the top QB's in the NFL this year.

[Taco John]

Trent has shown that an average quarterback with a great offensive line can look above average.

What Trent hasn't shown is that he can win under pressure.


Neither of us has any idea how he'll perform in the playoffs, in that pressure cooker of a stadium that you have.

My guess... He'll do what KC's average quarterbacks always do: CHOKE!

[AboveAverage]

You are kidding yourself. Mark Rypien looked like a Hall of Famer when he had 6 seconds in the pocket. Even Trent Green can look like a good NFL quarterback when he can pitch a tent back there.

I can't believe you just said that. I nearly spit my water all over my entire desktop. Trent can make good decisions when given all day to throw, and he is one of THE BEST at throwing a screen pass. If that makes a great QB, than the quarterback position in the NFL is even more deluded than I thought.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by ZachKC
I wouldn't have believed in before the season but Trent has shown that he is one of the top QB's in the NFL this year.

:dummy:

[ZachKC]

In the NFL Green is...

2nd in yards

3rd in QB rating

4th in TD passes

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod


:dummy:

I wouldn't actully type either...you could hurt yourself...

[Darkhawk24]

Ha!

When your used to seeing Elvis Grbac then it's easy to get mixed up when it comes to QB's.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John
Trent has shown that an average quarterback with a great offensive line can look above average.

What Trent hasn't shown is that he can win under pressure.


Neither of us has any idea how he'll perform in the playoffs, in that pressure cooker of a stadium that you have.

My guess... He'll do what KC's average quarterbacks always do: CHOKE!

You are right...who am I to talk you have Plummer...

I will call you if I need my QB to throw an INT in endzone.

[AboveAverage]

Now that I think of it, I haven't seen Priest make any spectacular plays this year unless he has a hole that a Mack truck could drive threw.

If there is nothing there, he will get his 2-3 yards. He isn't a threat to break a big one, but he certainly does take advantage of what he has in front of him.

I'm starting to think he is the same back that Baltimore cut for Jamal Lewis.

[Old Dude]

Originally posted by ZachKC


It is my understanding from reading the newspapers and from different threads on the Planet that for the Chiefs to get homefield advantage the Colts don't really matter.

We need to win and have the Pats lose either of their games.

I think you're talking about overall HFA.

I'm talking about getting a first round bye. If the Colts win out, the Pats split and KC drops one, I think you loose the bye.

You'd have the same conference record as the Colts and Pats. To the extent that "common opponents plays a role, you'd lose to the Colts). To the extent that "strength of victory" plays a role, you have no shot at the Pats.

On S.O.V. rating, the Chiefs are slightly behind the Colts, too. About 10 points, I think. The horrid records of the Chargers and Raiders could come back to bite you in the ass.

[McDortoh]

Somebody better watch this guy when green implodes in the playoffs. My guess is he pulls a hussain on us and moves underground.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by AboveAverage
Now that I think of it, I haven't seen Priest make any spectacular plays this year unless he has a hole that a Mack truck could drive threw.


That not true...we are all welcome to throw around smack but anyone who has watched these Chiefs games and isn't a complete Bronco homer has seen Holmes make a lot of TDs and great ones with holes that arn't that big if they are there at all. Our line is great but Holmes makes it happen even when there arn't holes. Have you sat down and watched non Denver Chiefs games?

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod
Somebody better watch this guy when green implodes in the playoffs. My guess is he pulls a hussain on us and moves underground.

I will be really excited when you write something worth reading.

You are more than welcome to add your own idea(s) to thread any time sweetheart.

[Darkhawk24]

Originally posted by hotrod
Somebody better watch this guy when green implodes in the playoffs. My guess is he pulls a hussain on us and moves underground.

Or he will start rooting for the Lions. ;)

[DarkHorse]

LOL, KC fans can't even admit an all out ass whipping. We've done it twice this year. Yeah, you got us by 1 point in ArrowHead but everyone including the fans that attended that game knows you got your asses handed to you up and down the field.

Again, i'm aware that you won by 1 point. I'm talking about everything else.

Take the punt return out of the equation and you guys lose big, real big.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Old Dude


I think you're talking about overall HFA.

I'm talking about getting a first round bye. If the Colts win out, the Pats split and KC drops one, I think you loose the bye.

You'd have the same conference record as the Colts and Pats. To the extent that "common opponents plays a role, you'd lose to the Colts). To the extent that "strength of victory" plays a role, you have no shot at the Pats.

On S.O.V. rating, the Chiefs are slightly behind the Colts, too. About 10 points, I think. The horrid records of the Chargers and Raiders could come back to bite you in the ass.

I see what you are getting at....enough people slave away over those things I don't get into it to much.

But I think we win out...Minn will be an interesting game. And the Patriots lose tot he Jets.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by DarkHorse


Take the punt return out of the equation and you guys lose big, real big.

If that makes you feel better then I would go with...

[Darkhawk24]

Zach the combo of Benett/O. Smith/ and M. Williams are a little better then Bryson. ;)

If the Vikes can play even average defense they should win this game.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Darkhawk24

If the Vikes can play even average defense they should win this game.

If the "insert team name here" can play decent defense they should win this game...

Ya know I heard the same kind of thing from...

Steelers fans, Ravens fans, and Packer fans.

[Tom A Hawk]

Originally posted by Darkhawk24
TJ I agree with you. I also have no doubt in my mind that we would beat them too. I know deep down Chief fans don't want any part of Portis in the playoffs. Tell me what RB in this group you fear the most,

(A. Smith/F. Faulk, E. James, R. Johnson/C. Dillon, E. George, or C. Portis)

Hold on there bub.......you don't speak for Chiefs fans about what they want or don't want........we speak for ourselves. Now, I will tell you what I want.....not speaking for other Chiefs fans.......

I would love for Denver to come to KC for round 3. Not the least bit afraid of the outcome.....it will be what it will be. A victory over Denver in the playoffs is what will be needed to shut your yaps about your impressive victory 2 weeks ago. If Denver wins, well good luck on your journey.

We will talk more once we know the results and the pairings. My guess is you all fear Baltimore so much, you are willing to play anyone but them.

[ZachKC]

Of all the teams that could be in the playoffs I (like TJ) fear the Ravens the most.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by ZachKC


I will be really excited when you write something worth reading.

You are more than welcome to add your own idea(s) to thread any time sweetheart.

Heres an idea your Oline is your team. Trint would not be the qb he appears without it. How do you feel Trint would do in finland??? The problem with your smack is the only thing in 34 years you have to back it up is this winning season you have put togather playing lower level teams. Your D has been exposed and it will cost you any hopes you had of a SB season. Unlike the chefs the Broncos are peaking at the right time IMO.

And one more idea for you go back to mullet town and more people would see your homer ideas as truth

PS have a nice day

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod


Heres an idea your Oline is your team. Trint would not be the qb he appears without it. How do you feel Trint would do in finland??? The problem with your smack is the only thing in 34 years you have to back it up is this winning season you have put togather playing lower level teams. Your D has been exposed and it will cost you any hopes you had of a SB season. Unlike the chefs the Broncos are peaking at the right time IMO.

And one more idea for you go back to mullet town and more people would see your homer ideas as truth

PS have a nice day

*gasp* A Bronco fan holding on to the past for smack against the Chiefs...it cant be!?!?!

And if peaking means beating the Browns in OT in my house than you can peak all you want.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by ZachKC


*gasp* A Bronco fan holding on to the past for smack against the Chiefs...it cant be!?!?!

And if peaking means beating the Browns in OT in my house than you can peak all you want.

Peaking would mean not getting b*tch slapped by a division rival in the closing weeks of a season. Then turning around and taking out your frustration of watching your season go down the drain on the poor lioncubs.

In this case I have no problem looking back at your long line of failure.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod




In this case I have no problem looking back

I am sure you don't its all you have.

You squeaked out a win against a sub par Browns team and you try to convince me you are peaking?

And then im called the homer...

Fun times...

You can't beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead.

[McDortoh]

Now homerzach answer the question how does your hero trint do in finland???

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod
Now homerzach answer the question how does your hero trint do in finland???

Sorry you are dissapointed my QB doesn't lob INTs into the endzone.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by ZachKC


I am sure you don't its all you have.

You squeaked out a win against a sub par Browns team and you try to convince me you are peaking?

And then im called the homer...

Fun times...

You can't beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead.

Lets see you say we are not peaking yet we smoked the chefs just two weeks ago.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by ZachKC


Sorry you are dissapointed my QB doesn't lob INTs into the endzone.

You try to smack me for lack of input on the thread but run from the question.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod


Lets see you say we are not peaking yet we smoked the chefs just two weeks ago.

I can't stop you from thinking that you are peaking...you are more than welcome to.

Belief is a powerful thing.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by hotrod


You try to smack me for lack of input on the thread but run from the question.

Because I have no idea as to what you were referring to...

[ZachKC]

Hotrod, if Denver comes back to Arrowhead will give Portis some Midol for the game?

[ZachKC]

Well I am done for a while...have a great day Hotrod, don't hurt yourself.

[RINGLEADER]

If KC loses at Minnesota the Patriots do NOT clinch home field advantage. Actually, the game at Minnesota has no bearing on the #1 seed, but does impact the #2 seed. If the Chiefs lose on Saturday and the Pats win, but next week KC beats the Bears at home and the Pats lose to the Bills, then KC will do no worse than the #2 seed based on the common opponents tie-breaker that would determine that spot and could still claim the top spot if Indy loses one more game.

If KC loses in Minnesota and NE loses to the Bills and Indy wins its final two games then the Colts would be the #1, KC would be #2, and NE would be #3. If NE beats the Bills and Indy wins their final two then KC will be the #2 seed if they win in Minnesota and against the Bears and #3 if they lose either game.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by ZachKC


Because I have no idea as to what you were referring to...

My question is referring to the fact you are on this thread pimping trint as the second coming. Im not arguing he is not having a great year just that its the oline and not trint that is inflating his numbers.

[ROYC75]

IMHO, the Broncos need to make the playoffs first before I address this......

BTA, I want Denver a 3rd times as well, 3rd time charm, maybe KC can play 2 good halves and show these Broncos up !

Again, before round 3, you guys must make the playoffs and KC has a few games to play for HFA.

Let's talk later.

[watermock]

First off, the worst thing for Chef Fan was to watch Moss get the ball stolen from him in the end zone.

Minnesota now HAS to have this game, and Moss will be back inside. Ontario Smith is comming on as well. Bennett might be back as well.

It's going to be a shootout, but Kansas City is walking into a classic trap game after thinking they are all world against Detroit, a dome team that is horrible on the road.

Mock has declared it so:

It shall be done.

Vikings 34, Queefs 28.

And dammit, stop posting Sean Taylor, my saliva glands keep going off.
http://www.royalscentral.com/images/om/sean_taylor.jpg

[Tom A Hawk]

Originally posted by RINGLEADER
If KC loses at Minnesota the Patriots do NOT clinch home field advantage. Actually, the game at Minnesota has no bearing on the #1 seed, but does impact the #2 seed. If the Chiefs lose on Saturday and the Pats win, but next week KC beats the Bears at home and the Pats lose to the Bills, then KC will do no worse than the #2 seed based on the common opponents tie-breaker that would determine that spot. If KC loses in Minnesota and NE loses to the Bills and Indy wins its final two games then the Colts would be the #1, KC would be #2, and NE would be #3. If NE beats the Bills and Indy wins their final two then KC will be the #2 seed if they win in Minnesota and against the Bears and #3 if they lose either game.

finally........something intelligent is being said........I was getting dizzy from watching Zack and hotrod in their little lovers quarrel.

[ENDelt260]

Originally posted by Darkhawk24
When did Hinz hack into Zach's account!?!

Oh, that was just uncalled for.

[Taco John]

I personally am deathly afraid of the Ravens... It makes me sick during weeks that we play them. I get a queasy feeling in my gut, like when I was a kid and it's parent/teacher conferences coming up... And I'm in BIG trouble for my math grades...

[Darkhawk24]

Originally posted by ENDelt260


Oh, that was just uncalled for.

ROFL! But funny!

[DarkHorse]

Mock, the Lions are a terrible team anywhere. Not just on the road.


Not sure what you were thinking there.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by Tom A Hawk


finally........something intelligent is being said........I was getting dizzy from watching Zack and hotrod in their little lovers quarrel.

lovers quarrel that was not called for ;D

[Saulbadguy]

Here is the scenario I see happening.

Denver loses @Indy.
Denver loses @Green Bay.
Denver just misses the playoffs.

Although, it seems this year, 9-7 could make the playoffs. If Baltimore wins their division, and Cincinatti loses another, and Miami loses another..looks like you are in. Correct me if im wrong, but here is what I see happening.

Tennessee gets the first wildcard at 12-4, 11-5, or 10-6. Doesn't matter.

Cinci will lose @ST Louis, and defeat Cleveland @Cinci. 9-7, Division Winners.

Baltimore will lose @Cleveland, and beat Pitt @Baltimore. 9-7, Wild card with the head to head tiebreaker @Denver.

[JAYDAHolmes31]

Honestly, I really, really hope you guys come to Arrowhead to play us in the playoffs. (do I think it will happen? Doubt it.) I would really love to lay the whole thing to rest. I KNOW this much, even if you were able to win the game it would be close. The blowout that took place was just a bad day on our part and a perfect day on you alls part. I think we'd get ya this time but it would be close.

[Tom A Hawk]

Originally posted by hotrod


lovers quarrel that was not called for ;D

glad you took it as humor;D

[redrage]

Originally posted by Saulbadguy
Here is the scenario I see happening.

Denver loses @Indy.
Denver loses @Green Bay.
Denver just misses the playoffs.

Although, it seems this year, 9-7 could make the playoffs. If Baltimore wins their division, and Cincinatti loses another, and Miami loses another..looks like you are in. Correct me if im wrong, but here is what I see happening.

Tennessee gets the first wildcard at 12-4, 11-5, or 10-6. Doesn't matter.

Cinci will lose @ST Louis, and defeat Cleveland @Cinci. 9-7, Division Winners.

Baltimore will lose @Cleveland, and beat Pitt @Baltimore. 9-7, Wild card with the head to head tiebreaker @Denver.

Yeah, but if Miami, Baltimore and Denver all end up 9-7, Denver gets in based on their better conference record.

Personally, I see Denver has all but clinched the last wildcard spot.

I don't see Cincy winning out (will lose at StL)
I see Baltimore winning out (I just don't see Cle or Pit getting them)

I don't see Miami winning out (at Buffalo will be tough for them).

Denver could lose both of their last two games and still get in. Rat might just want to risk this scenario and rest Portis for three full weeks, cause even if they do get in, they ain't going anywhere in the playoffs without him.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by Tom A Hawk


glad you took it as humor;D

:pfbbt:

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by JAYDAHolmes31
Honestly, I really, really hope you guys come to Arrowhead to play us in the playoffs. (do I think it will happen? Doubt it.) I would really love to lay the whole thing to rest. I KNOW this much, even if you were able to win the game it would be close. The blowout that took place was just a bad day on our part and a perfect day on you alls part. I think we'd get ya this time but it would be close.

Will it happen who knows but there is little doubt it would be an instant classic.

[bendog]

OK, smack aside. From the chief games I've watched, admittedly spotty aside from the den games, Priest doesn't seem to have quite the same burst. He used to seem to cut like 45 degress and get faster, or stop, and then go full speed.

No diss, he's still better than LT, imo, if not Sonics, but do you guys see him all the way back?

[Saulbadguy]

Originally posted by redrage


Yeah, but if Miami, Baltimore and Denver all end up 9-7, Denver gets in based on their better conference record.

Personally, I see Denver has all but clinched the last wildcard spot.

I don't see Cincy winning out (will lose at StL)
I see Baltimore winning out (I just don't see Cle or Pit getting them)

I don't see Miami winning out (at Buffalo will be tough for them).

Denver could lose both of their last two games and still get in. Rat might just want to risk this scenario and rest Portis for three full weeks, cause even if they do get in, they ain't going anywhere in the playoffs without him.

Head to Head is applied before conference record, so if Baltimore is 9-7 and NOT the division winner, Baltimore will get it.

[JAYDAHolmes31]

I want to see the refs call all the clips they see...



OH my god are you still hanging on to the stupid clip excuse!!!
Stop it.

[bendog]

Screw that! I want the refs to give Den a make up clip! (-:

[Adam]

TJ -

I find it interesting that you keep crying more and more about the refs as the season goes on. Weren't you the one chastising other Orangemaynards for crying after the game?

[redrage]

Originally posted by Saulbadguy


Head to Head is applied before conference record, so if Baltimore is 9-7 and NOT the division winner, Baltimore will get it.

Wrong. If three teams are tied, the head to head tiebreaker does not apply unless one team has swept the other two. since that isn't the case here, the tie breaker would move to the next criteria which is conference record. The worst Denver could do is 8-4 and Miami and Baltimore already have 5 conference losses.

BTW Miami beat Baltimore this year.

[watermock]

You mean the clip that should of placed you at the two yard line instead of getting the game winning touchdown while we outgained you in net yards by 200?

Don't remember it.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by watermock
You mean the clip that should of placed you at the two yard line instead of getting the game winning touchdown while we outgained you in net yards by 200?

Don't remember it.

Alot of Cub fans have let go of the Bartman thing...yet these Bronco fans...

[watermock]

Hopefully this year we won't have to watch Dan Reeves laugh at Denver while he runs out the clock at the one yard line in a loss to sneak into the playoffs, and deny Denver.

Too Bad Dan. Not this year. Or next year. Or ever again.

[redrage]

As a Chiefs fan, any team with a decent running game and decent defense scares me. Obviously a little less if that game were played at Arrowhead. The only teams I see in the playoffs that fit that criteria are Denver, Baltimore, Miami and maybe Cincy. Oddly enough KC is 2-2 vs. these teams this year and the two victories were among the closest wins.

Only two will make the playoffs and if KC gets the #2 seed, they may not even see any of them at all. Fortunately, KC won't have to play any of them on the road and despite what all of you think, that is a big deal.

Indy could fit this mold as well, but I've seen their defense and running game play a lot this season and it doesn't scare me at all despite what the press would have you believe.

[RINGLEADER]

But that's only true if you think Miami is going to win another game this year...like the Broncos they will not.

[JAYDAHolmes31]

No really thats the sad thing is Priest hasn't been 100% this year and look at what hes done thats why I convinced he's the best not because hes a Chief because believe me Portass is a very close 2nd in my mind, but I think he is very, very close to 100% now and ready to be 100% by the Minnesota game this saturday. Coach V said the same thing. Look out for Priest to bust out huge late this season.

[bendog]

Yah, that's sort of what I've been wondering. No diss, but the run defense sucks, but if Priest hits stride, KC might make a run like the Rams did. If ya get up by 10 early, the lack of run defense can be ok. Den could afford to run Robinson's d when they had TD and the Man, too.

[McDortoh]

Originally posted by JAYDAHolmes31
No really thats the sad thing is Priest hasn't been 100% this year and look at what hes done thats why I convinced he's the best not because hes a Chief because believe me Portass is a very close 2nd in my mind, but I think he is very, very close to 100% now and ready to be 100% by the Minnesota game this saturday. Coach V said the same thing. Look out for Priest to bust out huge late this season.

As much as this pains me to say he already has busted out huge for you. Except for the Broncos game. ;)

[Darkhawk24]

Originally posted by RINGLEADER
But that's only true if you think Miami is going to win another game this year...like the Broncos they will not.

:loopy: Someone is going to be dissapointed....

[bendog]

yeah, but that guy was unstoppable last year. Imagine him with Phillys screen pass game, even now.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by bendog
Yah, that's sort of what I've been wondering. No diss, but the run defense sucks, but if Priest hits stride, KC might make a run like the Rams did. If ya get up by 10 early, the lack of run defense can be ok. Den could afford to run Robinson's d when they had TD and the Man, too.
Vermeil has said all season that he didn't feel Priest has been 100%. Here was his comments on Priest yesterday.

TUCKER: You say that Priest (Holmes) is just getting up to full vigor and health. What does it say about a guy who scores 18 or 19 touchdowns before he really gets going?

VERMEIL: “Nothing he does real well surprises me or any of us. He’s going to find the endzone. Last week on the practice field, I’m saying, he looked better Wednesday and Thursday than he looked at any time. I thought it carried over into the ball game. He was quicker at practice sessions than he has been before. He’s had a foot problem that’s bothered him and he comes back with a shoulder ache. It all had an influence on his practice preparation during the week. This last week was his best and I thought I saw the positive results in how he played.”

[Sassy]

The blowout that took place was just a bad day on our part and a perfect day on you alls part.
Trying telling that to 'other' chef fans who keep giving us a bad time for the Bears loss. LOL!

[bendog]

I thought chi was more about slash's last harrah, and personal revenge for 97 and his only real chance for a lombardi. Guy had a nice game.

[redrage]

Originally posted by Sassy

Trying telling that to 'other' chef fans who keep giving us a bad time for the Bears loss. LOL!

Yeah, but it sure seems as if you've had more than one of those games this season.

Clev, Detroit, Pitt. all teams that you guys beat, but rather unimpressively.

[watermock]

Dick for Meal sounds like CatsupBoy.

Now don't get all teary eyed there buddy.

"It's cause I love him..."(Dick for Meal on TrINT Green)

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally posted by Taco John
I get a queasy feeling in my gut, like when I was a kid and it's parent/teacher conferences coming up... And I'm in BIG trouble for my math grades...


So this explains why you fail to understand that 24 > 23

[Darkhawk24]

Originally posted by DaKCMan AP



So this explains why you fail to understand that 24 > 23

Now there was a great first post! :unamused:

[Taco John]

The main reason that I want to see this go down is because every time we've played the Chiefs, Shanahan has introduced a new wrinkle to the offense that makes Greg Robinson's defense crap itself.

Watching all of those jocks being dropped on the field during that last game, in which Shanahan highlighted more misdirection than a David Copperfield magic show was a pure joy.

[ROYC75]

Tj, you guys better win one of your last 2 games. If you lose both of them, you better hope Baltimore and Cincy don't end up with the same record as you guys !

[Taco John]

Dun-dun-dun-dun!

Captain Obvious to save the day!

[ROYC75]

Originally posted by Taco John
Dun-dun-dun-dun!

Captain Obvious to save the day!

Oh No..... why would I want to save your day ?;D

[orinjkrush]

What i want for playoffs.(oh geez, that's counting chickens before their fried, er..).....is against the Ravens in their house. If we don't get over this bad karma thingey, right away...the rest won't matter. I think if we could beat daCravens....our mojo wiould be unstoppable. Sorta like when we beat KC in their house on one of our super bowl runs. Bring on the Lewis's....time to strap it on.

[ChiefsFan5840]

Originally posted by Old Dude
Okay, let's see.

Most likely scenario from here:

1. Indy beats us.
2. Rams beat the Bengals.
3. Buffalo, at home, finishes off Miami.
4. Ravens beat the Browns.
5. Tennessee beats Houston.
6. KC drops one to the Vikes.
7. Pats wrap up HFA with win over the Jets.


Sorry, but that's not it. If we do somehow finish 13-3, if Indy loses one more game to either team, and the Pats lose to the BILLS (not the Jets, has to be Buffalo) then we win the #1 seed. I see you have Pats beating Buffalo, but they would have to in order to clinch #1, I say KC finishes 14-2, and I don't know if New England is going to lose, but they can decide who's #1 by playing their two, so I don't see KC in a wild card game, anyways..I think you will be the #6 seed and beat Indianapolis (in the playoffs) and then maybe you'll get us in the divisional, or even beat New England if they're #1 and how great would that be? Denver @ Kansas City AFC Championship. If the game happens period...Kansas City wins 38-27

[Iowanian]

Originally posted by DarkHorse

Take the punt return out of the equation and you guys lose big, real big.

Take Priests Only fumble of the year on your 15, while KC was driving the stake into the Donk heart....and its at least an 8point KC win.

Take any of the Drops ButterPortis made in both games, put one of them in KCs hands(it was a fumble in Denver) and it could have been a different game.....

ifs and butts.....don't mean jack. Its what actually happens and who scores.

Taco says:
"What Trent hasn't shown is that he can win under pressure."

Really...What about the Come from behind (17 and 21) AT GB? Green seems to do pretty well, and as a fan....I'm pretty confident, when KC is down by less than 1 score with 2 minutes left and the ball in Green's hands.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally posted by bendog
OK, smack aside. From the chief games I've watched, admittedly spotty aside from the den games, Priest doesn't seem to have quite the same burst. He used to seem to cut like 45 degress and get faster, or stop, and then go full speed.

No diss, he's still better than LT, imo, if not Sonics, but do you guys see him all the way back?

DV has admitted as much. The good news is Priest has been getting better every game and according to DV the burst has returned. It seems that like a knee injury it takes time to get full strength back. But, unlike other backs in the NFL, Priest has game even when his burst is less then full.

Priest needs 3 TDs to tie Emmit Smith's record for number of rushing TDs in a season. Will he break the record now that his burst is back?

Another question, with the sprained knee will Portis have time to regain his burst for the playoffs? His burst is his whole game.

[Tredici]

Since when does Priest need a burst for a TD? Isn't it like a rule the wideouts have to trip inside the 5?

[Old Dude]

Originally posted by ChiefsFan5840



Sorry, but that's not it. If we do somehow finish 13-3, if Indy loses one more game to either team, and the Pats lose to the BILLS (not the Jets, has to be Buffalo) then we win the #1 seed. ...

I don't see Indianapolis losing to Houston. So if they beat us, they'll almost certainly go 13-3.

If the Chiefs also go 13-3, Indy will win the tiebreaker. It would go all the way down to Strength of Victory Points, where the Colts are about 10 points ahead of the Chiefs. Mostly due to te fact that the Colts swept their nearest division rival - the 10-4 Titans - while the Chiefs were only able to get a split with Denver.

If the Pats win one more game - against anyone - and also finish 13-3, they beat you on tiebreakers too.

Vs. common opponents, (Denver, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Houston) both teams would be 4-1. (That is, if we assume that the Pats lose to the Bills. If they lose to the Jets but beat the Bills, they win the tiebreaker right off the top.)

Vs. the AFC, both teams would be tied with 2 AFC losses and 1 NFC loss.

In terms of Strength of Victory, the Pats are more than 20 points ahead of the Chiefs. You have zero chance of catching them there.

So I'm sorry, but your analysis looks to be incorrect.

[ChiefsFan5840]

I want DEN @ KC in the AFC Championship. 31-31 end 4th. KC wins coin toss, Dante Hall returns the kick. God damn would I go ****ing crazy.

[ChiefsFan5840]

Originally posted by Old Dude


I don't see Indianapolis losing to Houston. So if they beat us, they'll almost certainly go 13-3.

If the Chiefs also go 13-3, Indy will win the tiebreaker. It would go all the way down to Strength of Victory Points, where the Colts are about 10 points ahead of the Chiefs. Mostly due to te fact that the Colts swept their nearest division rival - the 10-4 Titans - while the Chiefs were only able to get a split with Denver.

If the Pats win one more game - against anyone - and also finish 13-3, they beat you on tiebreakers too.

Vs. common opponents, (Denver, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Houston) both teams would be 4-1. (That is, if we assume that the Pats lose to the Bills. If they lose to the Jets but beat the Bills, they win the tiebreaker right off the top.)

Vs. the AFC, both teams would be tied with 2 AFC losses and 1 NFC loss.

In terms of Strength of Victory, the Pats are more than 20 points ahead of the Chiefs. You have zero chance of catching them there.

So I'm sorry, but your analysis looks to be incorrect.

It's not incorrect, I never said Indy was going to lose to Houston, they could lose to you guys, I picked you in pick'em, and anyways I was just saying that wouldn't CLINCH it for New England. I think it's going to end as follows..KC 14-2, NE 13-3, Indy 12-4

DEN wins @ IND
TEN wins @ BAL
DEN vs KC divisional
TEN wins @ NE
winner beats Tennessee, no i'm not counting Denver out, but I think KC has an advantage at home, and whoever said Denver would win by double digits is wrong, I'm sorry, Denver could very well win the rest of their games and win it all, but there's no way they are winning by double digits at Arrowhead.

[Old Dude]

Originally posted by ChiefsFan5840


It's not incorrect, I never said Indy was going to lose to Houston, they could lose to you guys, I picked you in pick'em, and anyways I was just saying that wouldn't CLINCH it for New England. ....

Sorry, but what you said WAS incorrect. What you said was:

"If we do somehow finish 13-3, if Indy loses one more game to either team, and the Pats lose to the BILLS (not the Jets, has to be Buffalo) then we win the #1 seed. ... "

As I demonstrated above, that statement was incorrect. Not only would you fail to clinch the number one seed, you'd probably fail to get the second seed either.

Knowitall

And now, by claiming that your first statement was not incorrect, you have compounded the error.

:dummy:

[Rausch]

Originally posted by Taco John
...This is all I want... A chance to right the wrongs of the last time we played and dominated them in their house, but walked away with a loss. I want to see us first and goal at the four again, and watch Portis pound it in... I want to see the refs call all the clips they see... I want to watch Dick crying on the sidelines as we trounce them by double digits. I want to see Portis take Holmes over his knee and give him the belt...

I just want to beat the Chiefs in their house in the playoffs...

They are the only team I have absolutely no fear of in the post season.

Fitting...

As a Chiefs fan I want to see us lay to rest all the ghosts...

First the Donks, at home, and then the Colts....

Oh what a dream super bowl run that would make....;D

[baja]

Originally posted by Old Dude
Okay, let's see.

Most likely scenario from here:

1. Indy beats us.
2. Rams beat the Bengals.
3. Buffalo, at home, finishes off Miami.
4. Ravens beat the Browns.
5. Tennessee beats Houston.
6. KC drops one to the Vikes.
7. Pats wrap up HFA with win over the Jets.

Then:

1. We beat Green Bay. Finish 10-6.
2. Ravens knock off Pittsburgh. Finish 10-6.
3. Titans beat Bucs and finish 12-4.
4. Colts beat Texans and finish 13-3.
5. Chiefs beat Bears and finish 13-3.
6. Cincy beats Cleveland and finishes 9-7.
7. Miami beats Jets and finishes 9-7.
8. Pats beat Bills and finish 14-2.

Fins and Bengals eliminated.

New England would get top seed.
Colts would get second seed over the Chiefs based on better record vs. common opponents (and KC loss to Denver would be the critical tiebreaker)

Chiefs get 3d seed.
Ravens get 4th seed.
Titans get 5th seed (as wild card)
Broncos get 6th seed (as wild card)

Week One:

Tennessee at Baltimore
Denver at Kansas City.

Yup, it could happen.


I LOVE THIS POST!!!!!!

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by Taco John
...This is all I want... A chance to right the wrongs of the last time we played and dominated them in their house, but walked away with a loss. I want to see us first and goal at the four again, and watch Portis pound it in... I want to see the refs call all the clips they see... I want to watch Dick crying on the sidelines as we trounce them by double digits. I want to see Portis take Holmes over his knee and give him the belt...

I just want to beat the Chiefs in their house in the playoffs...

They are the only team I have absolutely no fear of in the post season.

You aren't wanting much are you?

First, I don't think the Chiefs are going to be playing in the first round. Second, I don't think the broncos are actually going to get by the first round. Third, If you come back to Arrowhead, you might find a different type of thumping.

I would never claim anything that I can't back with facts, I just feel that this is the year the Chiefs return to the Super Bowl. What is wrong can be addressed. What is right is getting "righter" as time goes on.

I was so disappointed that denver won against the browns. I didn't see the game, but I heard that your rat faced coach really made some blunders that could have ended the career of your most valuable player.

I guess we will have wait on the calendar to see what happens. Ain't it a bitch!!!

[Rock Chalk]

tomcash.....

sounds vaguely familiar....

TomahawkChops?

Ban him just in case!

[RINGLEADER]

Originally posted by Old Dude


I don't see Indianapolis losing to Houston. So if they beat us, they'll almost certainly go 13-3.

If the Chiefs also go 13-3, Indy will win the tiebreaker. It would go all the way down to Strength of Victory Points, where the Colts are about 10 points ahead of the Chiefs. Mostly due to te fact that the Colts swept their nearest division rival - the 10-4 Titans - while the Chiefs were only able to get a split with Denver.

If the Pats win one more game - against anyone - and also finish 13-3, they beat you on tiebreakers too.

Vs. common opponents, (Denver, Buffalo, Cleveland, and Houston) both teams would be 4-1. (That is, if we assume that the Pats lose to the Bills. If they lose to the Jets but beat the Bills, they win the tiebreaker right off the top.)

Vs. the AFC, both teams would be tied with 2 AFC losses and 1 NFC loss.

In terms of Strength of Victory, the Pats are more than 20 points ahead of the Chiefs. You have zero chance of catching them there.

So I'm sorry, but your analysis looks to be incorrect.


Um, actually, your analysis is incorrect.

Yes, if KC and Indy both end up 13-3 with 10-2 conference records then Indy gets the nod, but they do it with common opponent wins 5-0 to 4-1, not strength of victory.

You're also wrong that if NE beats anyone and finishes 13-3 they beat KC on tie-breakers. That's not true. If NE loses to the Jets but beat the Bills they get the tie-breaker based on strength of victory. But if NE loses to the Bills but beat the Jets then they LOSE the tie-breaker to KC 4-1 to 3-2. The Pats, you might remember, lost 31-0 against the Bills in week one.

That's why I made the earlier comment that the first seed contest between KC and NE isn't impacted AT ALL this weekend no matter what KC and NE do. The Chiefs could lose and the Pats could win this week and, if KC beats the Bears and NE loses to the Bills in week 17 then the Chiefs would still end up no worse than the #2 seed and, if Indy were to lose one of its final two games, KC would be the first seed.

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
tomcash.....

sounds vaguely familiar....

TomahawkChops?

Ban him just in case!

Is this fear?

Why do you fear the rantings and ravings of an Original Chiefs fan?

Woe unto you unbeliever!

[SNR_Chief]

Taco, just worry about getting into the playoffs before you have a pipedream about coming into KC and winning in the playoffs

[Taco John]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
tomcash.....

sounds vaguely familiar....

TomahawkChops?

Ban him just in case!


Definietly a different person...

[Taco John]

Originally posted by SNR_Chief
Taco, just worry about getting into the playoffs before you have a pipedream about coming into KC and winning in the playoffs


T be honest with you... I've already got us one win into the playoffs... I'm confident we'll be in the playoffs... So I'll go ahead and leave that part into the players hands... I'm just curious who we'll be playing after we beat you guys... ;)

[SNR_Chief]

Originally posted by Taco John



T be honest with you... I've already got us one win into the playoffs... I'm confident we'll be in the playoffs... So I'll go ahead and leave that part into the players hands... I'm just curious who we'll be playing after we beat you guys... ;) :P Enough of this drivel. I'm outta here.

[flair]

Originally posted by ZachKC


*gasp* A Bronco fan holding on to the past for smack against the Chiefs...it cant be!?!?!



Just got half way through this thread and your just like the rest of these hillbillys in this state. I always have a good laugh at your expense.


Tell me Zach after you lose in the playoffs what will you have to hold on?

I am 29 years old and have yet to see you win a AFC Championship much less a Superbowl. 2nd rate team you guys have .

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by Taco John




Eh... The clips on that play are well documented by both Broncos fans and the NFL media. No need for me to get mad. I just want to get even.

We both know that your team does not want to see us in Arrowhead this year.

Whining? I thought you guys never whine...if i remember right i believe you and Garcia both have stated that you felt the Refs weren't the reason that denver lost that game.....you said that the fact that Jake failed miserably on the last possesion was the reason you lost?

Now...which way is it?

You guys complaining about the "clips" all year long is hilarious considering all the missed calls that you got when Elway was around...the biggest complaint during the Elway years from people was that because Elway was just that damn good (which he was) he got the benefit of the doubt on several "over the line of scrimmage calls", or causing the defense to jump offsides by a head or shoulder movement that wasn't a normal movement....

Quit acting like you got jobbed...if you were that damn good it wouldn't have come down to just one play.....if you really are as good as you believe you are you would have crushed us....but you didn't....

Your overconfidence in believing that you think you would march into Arrowhead and steal a victory is fine...but i wonder how many excuses will be thrown out here if you don't even make the playoffs...

Get there first...then start throwing smaque...until then it is all supposition...conjecture..

mmaddog
********

[Rock Chalk]

"get there first....then start throwing smaque."

WIN WON FIRST BITCH THEN YOU COME TALK SOME SMACK.

Stupid ass Chef fans.

[Taco John]

Originally posted by mmaddog

if i remember right i believe you and Garcia both have stated that you felt the Refs weren't the reason that denver lost that game



I still don't think the refs are the reason we lost that game. I thought failing to convert on first and goal on the four yard line was the reason...

...that being said, I'm not going to deny that there were at least two missed clips on that runback. Just because I was disappointed in our offenses red zone failure doesn't mean I'm going to just ignore the fact that you guys were given a free touchdown.

No, I don't think that's the reason that we lost... We should have overcome it... But that doesn't pardon the refs...

[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


Whining? I thought you guys never whine...if i remember right i believe you and Garcia both have stated that you felt the Refs weren't the reason that denver lost that game.....you said that the fact that Jake failed miserably on the last possesion was the reason you lost?

Now...which way is it?

You guys complaining about the "clips" all year long is hilarious considering all the missed calls that you got when Elway was around...the biggest complaint during the Elway years from people was that because Elway was just that damn good (which he was) he got the benefit of the doubt on several "over the line of scrimmage calls", or causing the defense to jump offsides by a head or shoulder movement that wasn't a normal movement....

Quit acting like you got jobbed...if you were that damn good it wouldn't have come down to just one play.....if you really are as good as you believe you are you would have crushed us....but you didn't....

Your overconfidence in believing that you think you would march into Arrowhead and steal a victory is fine...but i wonder how many excuses will be thrown out here if you don't even make the playoffs...

Get there first...then start throwing smaque...until then it is all supposition...conjecture..

mmaddog
********
your post has fear written all over it , you know dam well Chiefs were lucky in Game one , every Broncos told you Mullets game 2 in our house will be different , Hell Chiefs shouldnt even be thinking playoffs afterdropping 45 to a division rival ...... you dont even want to compare playoff records , not with Bronco fan, I am sure just might be some saints fans around you can lay playoff smack on .........

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by Taco John




I still don't think the refs are the reason we lost that game. I thought failing to convert on first and goal on the four yard line was the reason...

...that being said, I'm not going to deny that there were at least two missed clips on that runback. Just because I was disappointed in our offenses red zone failure doesn't mean I'm going to just ignore the fact that you guys were given a free touchdown.

No, I don't think that's the reason that we lost... We should have overcome it... But that doesn't pardon the refs...

Since the first game against the doncos, I've heard about the clip weekly. If you will check all the angles, not all of them indicate a clip.

What you will see is that John Elway (in the past) was notorious for throwing passes past the line of scrimmage, you tell me what the difference is. Was it missed by the refs? Don't you think that it may have been time if the block was a clip for retribution?

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

your post has fear written all over it , you know dam well Chiefs were lucky in Game one , every Broncos told you Mullets game 2 in our house will be different , Hell Chiefs shouldnt even be thinking playoffs afterdropping 45 to a division rival ...... you dont even want to compare playoff records , not with Bronco fan, I am sure just might be some saints fans around you can lay playoff smack on .........

Spider:

Fear...nah...respect maybe....you see, unlike most Bronco fans here, I am not homer enough to think that it's going to be a waltz to the SB.....but you guys act like the rest of the AFC should fear you....Geez, you lost to the Bears, AT HOME , you lucked out against the Browns (who we destroyed), and stunk against several other mediocre teams.....

On the other hand, we sucked aginst several mediocre teams too....but we beat the Ravens at their house, Green Bay at their house, and i wouldn't be surprised to see a victory at Minnesota either...

So....I'll say it again...get there first,then let's talk. Until then you are just playoff hopefuls. And even better than that, by that time even if you do get to the playoffs, your team will have put enough Bulletin Board Material to make the trip back to Arrowhead a less pleasant one....

mmaddog
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[Taco John]

Originally posted by tomcash


If you will check all the angles, not all of them indicate a clip.





Wrong... BlueFlame posted the pictures from every angle they had, and it's undeniable to everyone but the most ardent homers... Hell, even Vermiel admitted that there should have been a flag. When your own coach is saying that, all due respect, what do I need to listen to your interpretation for?

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by Taco John




I still don't think the refs are the reason we lost that game. I thought failing to convert on first and goal on the four yard line was the reason...

...that being said, I'm not going to deny that there were at least two missed clips on that runback. Just because I was disappointed in our offenses red zone failure doesn't mean I'm going to just ignore the fact that you guys were given a free touchdown.

No, I don't think that's the reason that we lost... We should have overcome it... But that doesn't pardon the refs...

So, using your logic, a few of those victories by Elway were "cheapened" by the missed over the line of scrimmage calls by the refs?

mmaddog
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[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


Spider:

Fear...nah...respect maybe....you see, unlike most Bronco fans here, I am not homer enough to think that it's going to be a waltz to the SB.....but you guys act like the rest of the AFC should fear you....Geez, you lost to the Bears, AT HOME , you lucked out against the Browns (who we destroyed), and stunk against several other mediocre teams.....

On the other hand, we sucked aginst several mediocre teams too....but we beat the Ravens at their house, Green Bay at their house, and i wouldn't be surprised to see a victory at Minnesota either...

So....I'll say it again...get there first,then let's talk. Until then you are just playoff hopefuls. And even better than that, by that time even if you do get to the playoffs, your team will have put enough Bulletin Board Material to make the trip back to Arrowhead a less pleasant one....

mmaddog
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First off the rest of the AFC should fear the Broncos , I could throw stat after stat , Say we beat so and so you lost to so and so , but it dont matter , Denver is hot right now , you can see the Browns game as a squeeker , but Doc said the same thing I did on RMFox sports report , this win was the best medicine for this team , and only a homer wouldnt see that ..... Now what does matter is who Denver has left ....... We have the colts and GB .... I think we take both teams ,leaving us @ 11-5 , Now I could care less if the Chiefs beat the Vikes , or The Bears , what does matter is the last time your Chiefs faced my Broncos ...... a Blow out happened ........ So while you run around and say Yeah but you lost to Da Bears , it still dont take away that We beat the Snot out of the Chiefs .. you Guys were never in the Game after the second half Kickoff ..... you guys faded , and While I want Denver to roll in Narrowhead staduim and Lay another ass whipping on the Chiefs , I just dont see another Detroit calibure team in the playoffs .

[watermock]

I remember the Chiefs, the real Chiefs. But that was 1969.

There was freaking 7 feet of snow on the ground and I am not kidding.

I must of been 10 years old.

Party hound that I was, I invited a friend over to enjoy the inevitable Purple People Eater Victory.

Hank Stram had them Queefs matriculating down the field, and I got so pissed off my Mom literally turned the TV off and made me go outside to cool off because I was reciting every cuss word my Father had ever taught me.

But that was 1969.

This is 2003. You could say the Queefs are due. But it isn't going to happen.

Why Queef Fan asks?

BECAUSE YOUR DEFENSE SUCKS.

Yes, you can lay the 1999 Rams on the table, and it isn't a bad bet, and yes, Denver didn't have much of a defense in it's title runs either.

I just don't see Morton and Kennison hoisting the ring like Bruce and Holt.

It isn't going to happen. Green loses focus under pressure, and Holmes isn't quite the back he was. Yeah Yeah Yeah, Dick for Meal is pimping him up. So the freak so what.

Dick for Meal knows that he needs to keep his defense off the field, and that he has mediocre WR's and all he can really count on is his OL to carry the day.

You crack that egg shell and Kansas City goes the way of OZ.

It was all a dream Dorothy.

[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


So, using your logic, a few of those victories by Elway were "cheapened" by the missed over the line of scrimmage calls by the refs?

mmaddog
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Man Dude . thats idiotcy ... you can Claim Elway over the LOS all you want ...... No one can Prove or disaprove that claim .......... Not with out Film of every down

[Pezman]

Originally posted by tomcash


Is this fear?

Why do you fear the rantings and ravings of an Original Chiefs fan?

Woe unto you unbeliever!

Mmmhmmm

http://www.slightlywarped.com/forumpictures/BanHim/banhim.jpg

[Blueflame]

Originally posted by tomcash


Since the first game against the doncos, I've heard about the clip weekly. If you will check all the angles, not all of them indicate a clip.

What you will see is that John Elway (in the past) was notorious for throwing passes past the line of scrimmage, you tell me what the difference is. Was it missed by the refs? Don't you think that it may have been time if the block was a clip for retribution?

On the Hall runback, there were two separate instances that should have been flagged for an illegal block in the back, Tomcash. In addition, watching the tape frame-by-frame also showed two Chiefs grabbing a Bronco facemask... one that I'd call the "incidental" variety and the other (on our punter, no less... who, btw, had no chance of stopping Hall anyway) the kind that usually results in a 15-yard penalty. The tape doesn't lie.

And Elway's been retired for almost 5 years... I don't see how he's relevant to today's NFL officiating...

[watermock]

The LOS is calculated by where the FEET ARE, not the ball.

I think there was one time when Elway went over with his feet, it was really borderline, but he probably was over it. I forget the game.

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

First off the rest of the AFC should fear the Broncos , I could throw stat after stat , Say we beat so and so you lost to so and so , but it dont matter , Denver is hot right now , you can see the Browns game as a squeeker , but Doc said the same thing I did on RMFox sports report , this win was the best medicine for this team , and only a homer wouldnt see that ..... Now what does matter is who Denver has left ....... We have the colts and GB .... I think we take both teams ,leaving us @ 11-5 , Now I could care less if the Chiefs beat the Vikes , or The Bears , what does matter is the last time your Chiefs faced my Broncos ...... a Blow out happened ........ So while you run around and say Yeah but you lost to Da Bears , it still dont take away that We beat the Snot out of the Chiefs .. you Guys were never in the Game after the second half Kickoff ..... you guys faded , and While I want Denver to roll in Narrowhead staduim and Lay another ass whipping on the Chiefs , I just dont see another Detroit calibure team in the playoffs .

"Denver is hot right now"? Let's look at your last 4 games:

Chicago 19 Denver 10
Denver 22 Oakland 8
Denver 45 KC 27
Denver 23 Cleveland 20 (OT)

Nothing stellar but the game with us....and quite frankly it wouldn't have mattered if we were 14-0 and you were 0-14, a game between KC and Denver always is tough...hell, the year SF went to the SB with Young we beat the crap out of them at Arrowhead.....

I don't see you beating both the Colts and the Packers, so you will still need some help getting there....

All of it is just supposition....and besides, you still have your version of Greg Robinson for your offense, Gary Kubiak to screw things up for you.

And the irony of it all....if you guys beat Indianapolis you are helping KC...damn that is sooooo funny....and i bet it really pisses the Broncos and their fans off royally...

mmaddog
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[mmaddog]

Originally posted by watermock
The LOS is calculated by where the FEET ARE, not the ball.

I think there was one time when Elway went over with his feet, it was really borderline, but he probably was over it. I forget the game.

you're right...the LOS is from where the feet are, but the game in question his whole body (including his feet)was past the LOS...it was replayed over and over....

mmaddog
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[SNR_Chief]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
"get there first....then start throwing smaque."

WIN WON FIRST BITCH THEN YOU COME TALK SOME SMACK.

Stupid ass Chef fans. What's next? If the Donkeys don't make the playoffs, but the Chiefs are 1 and done, then the Donkeys had a better season? ::)

[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


"Denver is hot right now"? Let's look at your last 4 games:

Chicago 19 Denver 10
Denver 22 Oakland 8
Denver 45 KC 27
Denver 23 Cleveland 20 (OT)

Nothing stellar but the game with us....and quite frankly it wouldn't have mattered if we were 14-0 and you were 0-14, a game between KC and Denver always is tough...hell, the year SF went to the SB with Young we beat the crap out of them at Arrowhead.....

I don't see you beating both the Colts and the Packers, so you will still need some help getting there....

All of it is just supposition....and besides, you still have your version of Greg Robinson for your offense, Gary Kubiak to screw things up for you.

And the irony of it all....if you guys beat Indianapolis you are helping KC...damn that is sooooo funny....and i bet it really pisses the Broncos and their fans off royally...

mmaddog
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Well since your so Bent on who we played . Tell me how did the Chiefs do VS the Raiders ? and didnt the Raiders just put somthing on the Ravens ? and Just last week Didnt the Browns take the St Louis Rams down to the wire ? and Holcomb started that game ...... you dont see us beating Colts or Packers ? Hell I dont see KC beating the Vikes with their Defense ....... So us Beating the Colts only helps if you Make it past the Vikes , and the Bears ....... But no Helping the Chiefs I want , I want Denver to roll into Narrowhead and Crush what little SB Dreams you guys have ........

[XtremeReaction]

Originally posted by mmaddog


you're right...the LOS is from where the feet are, but the game in question his whole body (including his feet)was past the LOS...it was replayed over and over....

mmaddog
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Well back in 1969 the Len Dawson crossed the LOS his whole body I heard about that over and over.....see how stupid your sh$t sounds...............;D

[Spider]

Originally posted by SNR_Chief
What's next? If the Donkeys don't make the playoffs, but the Chiefs are 1 and done, then the Donkeys had a better season? ::) 45-27 says we did

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
"get there first....then start throwing smaque."

WIN WON FIRST BITCH THEN YOU COME TALK SOME SMACK.

Stupid ass Chef fans.

Bitter Alex? Or just have a problem grasping the concept of intelligent conversation?

Methinks the latter, because you sure don't put much thought into your posts...

mmaddog
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[mmaddog]

Originally posted by XtremeReaction


Well back in 1969 the Len Dawson crossed the LOS his whole body I heard about that over and over.....see how stupid your sh$t sounds...............;D

Sorry Extreme, but your recollection is wrong.....

mmaddog
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[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Man Dude . thats idiotcy ... you can Claim Elway over the LOS all you want ...... No one can Prove or disaprove that claim .......... Not with out Film of every down

Spider:

Even Watermock acknowledged that it occured, although he believed that Elway was marginal on the call...

mmaddog
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[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Well since your so Bent on who we played . Tell me how did the Chiefs do VS the Raiders ? and didnt the Raiders just put somthing on the Ravens ? and Just last week Didnt the Browns take the St Louis Rams down to the wire ? and Holcomb started that game ...... you dont see us beating Colts or Packers ? Hell I dont see KC beating the Vikes with their Defense ....... So us Beating the Colts only helps if you Make it past the Vikes , and the Bears ....... But no Helping the Chiefs I want , I want Denver to roll into Narrowhead and Crush what little SB Dreams you guys have ........

Spider:

If you go back to my original post I acknowledged that we played ****ty against some poor teams....why is it so hard for you guys to be somewhat close to objective?

I want one, just one of you guys to be real in a post about how youroverall play has been....and don't add in the injury bug. You didn't let us lean on that when Priest went down last year...

Let's see how honest you can be about your team....

mmaddog
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[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


Spider:

Even Watermock acknowledged that it occured, although he believed that Elway was marginal on the call...

mmaddog
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I dont care , it has nothing to do with Jake or Denver making the Playoffs , or the Clip for hall now does it ? Besides Mock speaks of 1 Game over a 16 year Career 1 freaking game ..... Deal with it , Denver has the better front office thats why were contenders and why we have Dominated the AFC since 1977 ........

[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


Spider:

If you go back to my original post I acknowledged that we played ****ty against some poor teams....why is it so hard for you guys to be somewhat close to objective?

I want one, just one of you guys to be real in a post about how youroverall play has been....and don't add in the injury bug. You didn't let us lean on that when Priest went down last year...

Let's see how honest you can be about your team....

mmaddog
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I have been real honest you just cant handle the answer ..... Fact is you guys squeeked out 2 wins VS the Raiders , Denver has Blown them out ........
Denver blew you guys out .......
We lost to Da Bears . no biggie
you Guys lost to the Bengals who we Blew out , your QB has been in the same system for a few years now ( counting the St Louis Years )
Our QB is in his first year in this System ......
this is our D cord 1 st Year Defense playing exteremly well
Now I dont know if you know this or not so I will clue you in ........
This time of Year Defense wins sorry thats the way it has always Been ......... This is when wins and Losses matter the Most , this is when the Push Begins

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

I dont care , it has nothing to do with Jake or Denver making the Playoffs , or the Clip for hall now does it ? Besides Mock speaks of 1 Game over a 16 year Career 1 freaking game ..... Deal with it , Denver has the better front office thats why were contenders and why we have Dominated the AFC since 1977 ........

C'mon Spider...you're better than that....

While i hate Shanahan, and i think, like most others too, that he is not the genius that he was first cracked up to be, but the guy lucky enough to be coach of an excellent team, i can still acknowledge that you guys have been better the last few years than KC was in the front office, in the coaching box during the Shattenheimer years, and across several key offensive and defensive postions.

Everytime someone comes here and has an opinion that differs from the Bronco chant, you guys break out into a cold sweat scream like banshees and act like everyone who doesn't bleed orange is a fool...

Once, just once, i would love to see some great give and take without a "johnson vs johnson" pissing match.

mmaddog
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[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

I have been real honest you just cant handle the answer ..... Fact is you guys squeeked out 2 wins VS the Raiders , Denver has Blown them out ........
Denver blew you guys out .......
We lost to Da Bears . no biggie
you Guys lost to the Bengals who we Blew out , your QB has been in the same system for a few years now ( counting the St Louis Years )
Our QB is in his first year in this System ......
this is our D cord 1 st Year Defense playing exteremly well
Now I dont know if you know this or not so I will clue you in ........
This time of Year Defense wins sorry thats the way it has always Been ......... This is when wins and Losses matter the Most , this is when the Push Begins

You guys barely beat the Browns who we smoked....

You guys barely beat the Lions who we smoked...

We beat the Ravens, at their nest....you lost by 20...

You barely beat Pittsburgh, who we smoked...

The chant can go on forever.....and yes, I realize that Defense wins this time of year....

That, as Chiefs fan is my main concern......yours should be that you never know which schizophrenic team will show up...the Bronco team that kicked KC's butt all over In***co...or the team that barely beat Detroit and Cleveland, and lost to Chicago and Minnesota.....

I am sure of one thing....our defense has been sooooo bad that all it can do is improve.....and the best Defense is a good offense that keeps a sustained drive...

mmaddog
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[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


C'mon Spider...you're better than that....

While i hate Shanahan, and i think, like most others too, that he is not the genius that he was first cracked up to be, but the guy lucky enough to be coach of an excellent team, i can still acknowledge that you guys have been better the last few years than KC was in the front office, in the coaching box during the Shattenheimer years, and across several key offensive and defensive postions.

Everytime someone comes here and has an opinion that differs from the Bronco chant, you guys break out into a cold sweat scream like banshees and act like everyone who doesn't bleed orange is a fool...

Once, just once, i would love to see some great give and take without a "johnson vs johnson" pissing match.

mmaddog
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Lets see from 1977 till 2003 Denver has had 7 AFC championship games going 6-1 in those games
From 1977 -2003 Denver has Played in 6 SB winning 2 Back 2 Back
Now you show me where the Chiefs , Radiers , or any other AFC team that can Match those #'s .........

[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


You guys barely beat the Browns who we smoked....

You guys barely beat the Lions who we smoked...

We beat the Ravens, at their nest....you lost by 20...

You barely beat Pittsburgh, who we smoked...

The chant can go on forever.....and yes, I realize that Defense wins this time of year....

That, as Chiefs fan is my main concern......yours should be that you never know which schizophrenic team will show up...the Bronco team that kicked KC's butt all over In***co...or the team that barely beat Detroit and Cleveland, and lost to Chicago and Minnesota.....

I am sure of one thing....our defense has been sooooo bad that all it can do is improve.....and the best Defense is a good offense that keeps a sustained drive...

mmaddog
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We beat the Lions without Portis .... Lions had Charlie Rodgers , We was Right there with the Ravens with a 3 rd string QB and Lost it late in the Game Steelers Plan B was QB .... Browns were and are a different team , they are a team with Nothing to lose , hell they was doing a Fake punt 1 st Drive of the game ........ Now you want to compare games with a a depleated Denver team have @ it , all that Matters is Denver is winning late and with Defense ....... I know reality is a Biatch ...........

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Lets see from 1977 till 2003 Denver has had 7 AFC championship games going 6-1 in those games
From 1977 -2003 Denver has Played in 6 SB winning 2 Back 2 Back
Now you show me where the Chiefs , Radiers , or any other AFC team that can Match those #'s .........

I could be a smartass and say our winning percentage in total SB appearances is better than yours...but that would be inane....

I have no problem saying that you guys have been better in the playoffs than us.....it's a fact.....

But the fact is, this year, for once we are assured a playoff spot, while you are still fighting for one....

In your all those years of going to the SB, were there times you played a sub-par schedule due to a previous year's poor finish? And can you acknowledge that if you have to travel a second time to Indy, that you may not win the second time?

mmaddog
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[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

We beat the Lions without Portis .... Lions had Charlie Rodgers , We was Right there with the Ravens with a 3 rd string QB and Lost it late in the Game Steelers Plan B was QB .... Browns were and are a different team , they are a team with Nothing to lose , hell they was doing a Fake punt 1 st Drive of the game ........ Now you want to compare games with a a depleated Denver team have @ it , all that Matters is Denver is winning late and with Defense ....... I know reality is a Biatch ...........

Now you're making excuses......c'mon you guys never let us make excuses when Priest went down last year....

Besides, haven't you guys been proclaiming that you can just plug Anderson into the offense and keep on winning....

mmaddog
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[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


I could be a smartass and say our winning percentage in total SB appearances is better than yours...but that would be inane....

I have no problem saying that you guys have been better in the playoffs than us.....it's a fact.....

But the fact is, this year, for once we are assured a playoff spot, while you are still fighting for one....

In your all those years of going to the SB, were there times you played a sub-par schedule due to a previous year's poor finish? And can you acknowledge that if you have to travel a second time to Indy, that you may not win the second time?

mmaddog
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From 1977 to 2003 Denver has only finished below .500 3 times (4 if you count the strike year ) ........ We can Beat indy , all we have to do is contain Harrision and take the Colts head on in the redzone , and on Offense , Get Doss away from the LOS ... Yeah your going to the Playoffs , But Dont count Denver out ...

[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


Now you're making excuses......c'mon you guys never let us make excuses when Priest went down last year....

Besides, haven't you guys been proclaiming that you can just plug Anderson into the offense and keep on winning....

mmaddog
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Making excuses , we still won ..... We did Sorry we did put Anderson in and we won so whats your Point ?

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

From 1977 to 2003 Denver has only finished below .500 3 times (4 if you count the strike year ) ........ We can Beat indy , all we have to do is contain Harrision and take the Colts head on in the redzone , and on Offense , Get Doss away from the LOS ... Yeah your going to the Playoffs , But Dont count Denver out ...

1) I haven't counted them out...in fact I would look forward to a rematch in Arrowhead...if you come in and win, then you get bragging rights...if not, then the "you only won because of a clip" mantra could be put to bed....

2) Several times this year i have read DC's recount the same scheme to stop Indy.....and most have been unsuccessful...in fact it was only a very good goal line stand by the Pats that saved them.....

You guys think we fear you coming back...on the contrary, we would love the rubber game to settle it all. We have our end of the bargain held up...we are there, now win and get in and we can all stop our posturing....

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[Spider]

No you guys fear Portis , with your D . you know it ..... as for the Colts , most have tried it , but not with our Defense big difference , Most teams dont have a Portis or a Jake the Snake . Doss is Strong in Rush Defense , he gets hung out to dry on Passing Defense .... Denver will beat the Chiefs like a Drum in Narrowhead .. The Chiefs want no part of this .......Lets not forget Denver hung tough with Kanell as QB wit hthe Pats , in Fact Denver was leading in the 4 th .... Pats are a Hellva team , facing the Pats at home is a tough task

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®
No you guys fear Portis , with your D . you know it ..... as for the Colts , most have tried it , but not with our Defense big difference , Most teams dont have a Portis or a Jake the Snake . Doss is Strong in Rush Defense , he gets hung out to dry on Passing Defense .... Denver will beat the Chiefs like a Drum in Narrowhead .. The Chiefs want no part of this .......Lets not forget Denver hung tough with Kanell as QB wit hthe Pats , in Fact Denver was leading in the 4 th .... Pats are a Hellva team , facing the Pats at home is a tough task

1) Fear Portis....no, I fear our DC not having the answer in the 2nd half after denver makes adjustments...

2) The team everyone should be concerned about is the Pats, whether at home or away....

3) Your belief that you will roll over us in Arrowhead, like you did in Imbecilesco, is just that...your belief.....and you are allowed that....my belief is that it will be a close game with KC winning it.

mmaddog
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[Spider]

Originally posted by mmaddog


1) Fear Portis....no, I fear our DC not having the answer in the 2nd half after denver makes adjustments...

2) The team everyone should be concerned about is the Pats, whether at home or away....

3) Your belief that you will roll over us in Arrowhead, like you did in Imbecilesco, is just that...your belief.....and you are allowed that....my belief is that it will be a close game with KC winning it.

mmaddog
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1)Portis will get his , he cant be stop ,well by Kubiak he can be ......
2) Agreed
3) Not even sorry , Chiefs just dont control the LOS on Defense , your Line backers are slow they cant read the offense .....

[mmaddog]

Originally posted by §Pide®

1)Portis will get his , he cant be stop ,well by Kubiak he can be ......
2) Agreed
3) Not even sorry , Chiefs just dont control the LOS on Defense , your Line backers are slow they cant read the offense .....

1) I'm counting on Kubiak

2) The Pat weakness plays to ours...they really don't have an outstanding RB....if we could figure out how to get even the smallest of a pass rush I like our matchup against them better than our matchup with you....

3) Just because our LB's can't read...oops, you meant read an offense...sorry

mmaddog
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[SNR_Chief]

Originally posted by §Pide®
45-27 says we did So if that was your only win of the season, you would want that more than 14-2?

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by flair


Just got half way through this thread and your just like the rest of these hillbillys in this state. I always have a good laugh at your expense.


Tell me Zach after you lose in the playoffs what will you have to hold on?

I am 29 years old and have yet to see you win a AFC Championship much less a Superbowl. 2nd rate team you guys have .

Well I am glad you are talking to me now flair...becuase you wouldn't answer any of my posts about a post you made you look foolish.

But I guess you can pick your battles.

And the battle you have chosen is looking into past. Good times. You make a great Bronco fan.

Tell me again about how much the Chiefs used Holmes in the 4th qtr of the Lions game.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SNR_Chief
So if that was your only win of the season, you would want that more than 14-2?
Look dude I am a Homer , But even I realized this isnt our year , Next year Denver makes a push , Although I will say Jake has done great for being in his first year here , our D has Played Better then I imagined , I have said since preseason , our Push begins next year , all we can hope for is Playoffs , So far I am right , So Putting things in that Light , you damn Right I am Happy with beating the Snout out of the Chiefs 45-27 ;D

[Spider]

Originally posted by ZachKC


Well I am glad you are talking to me now flair...becuase you wouldn't answer any of my posts about a post you made you look foolish.

But I guess you can pick your battles.

And the battle you have chosen is looking into past. Good times. You make a great Bronco fan.

Tell me again about how much the Chiefs used Holmes in the 4th qtr of the Lions game.
Come on Zach you realy think you guys are going far with that half wit squad you guys call a Defense ?

[Rock Chalk]

Fat chance in hell you go 14-2 buddy boy.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Come on Zach you realy think you guys are going far with that half wit squad you guys call a Defense ?

This team can't be beat in Arrowhead. And you know what... (im not one to do this) But look for improved rush defense against the Vikings. I bet the defense puts on a pretty good show this week.

[Spider]

Originally posted by ZachKC


This team can't be beat in Arrowhead. And you know what... (im not one to do this) But look for improved rush defense against the Vikings. I bet the defense puts on a pretty good show this week.
How you going to improve Defense this late in the Season ? by week 9 you are what you are ...... Smoke and Mirrors will only carry you so far ..... Chiefs cant Dominate the LOS on D and that cant be fixed with Tweaks ....best you can hope for is to score early and often then use Ball control to protect your D . and as far as beating Chiefs in narrowhead ...... Broncos want a crack @ it

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by §Pide®

How you going to improve Defense this late in the Season ? by week 9 you are what you are ...... Smoke and Mirrors will only carry you so far ..... Chiefs cant Dominate the LOS on D and that cant be fixed with Tweaks ....best you can hope for is to score early and often then use Ball control to protect your D . and as far as beating Chiefs in narrowhead ...... Broncos want a crack @ it

Last time I checked things change from week to week...

The Vikings were 6-0 till they lost 4 straight...

Look for the rush defense to improve against the Vikings. No smoke or mirrors...just better tackling.

[ZachKC]

You had your chance in Arrowhead and the Chiefs awful rush defense stuffed Portis and your offense on 1st and goal from the 4. That was on my side of the field also...

[Rock Chalk]

Bennett is going to run all over the Chefs.

The only thing that will give the Chefs an advantage is Moss taking off plays and Culpecker making stupid mistakes. KC can take advantage of turnovers but dont expect to stop Bennet or Onterio Smith cause it is not going to happen.

[ZachKC]

If they turn the ball over it will be a blowout...this team is very good at capitalizing on other team's mistakes...

[Rock Chalk]

Zach.

Be real.

KC is not going to blow out Minny in Minny when they are fighting for a playoff spot.

[Taco John]

Again, Chefs fan makes the argument that you can't use history as a measure of anything... Of course Chef fan would make that argument. They have nothing in the last 30 years to be proud of. They'll use the standard "looking into past" argument every time because it's one that they simply can't beat. There is no argument that they can come up with to battle the fact that they have been miserable in the past, and will lay all their hopes on the future...

And guess what? It's a hollow argument. The Chiefs CAN and HAVE been beat at Arrowhead in the playoffs... And sucking your thumb and covering your eyes to that fact doesn't change the fact that it's entirely possible if not probable.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Zach.

Be real.

KC is not going to blow out Minny in Minny when they are fighting for a playoff spot.

If they turn the ball over...I totally believe we could blow them out.

But thats only if they turn the ball over.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John
Again, Chefs fan makes the argument that you can't use history as a measure of anything... Of course Chef fan would make that argument. They have nothing in the last 30 years to be proud of. They'll use the standard "looking into past" argument every time because it's one that they simply can't beat. There is no argument that they can come up with to battle the fact that they have been miserable in the past, and will lay all their hopes on the future...

And guess what? It's a hollow argument. The Chiefs CAN and HAVE been beat at Arrowhead in the playoffs... And sucking your thumb and covering your eyes to that fact doesn't change the fact that it's entirely possible if not probable.

Well I am glad that Elvis Grbac and Greg Hill and even JJ Birden are playing for the Chiefs....

[Rock Chalk]

Yeah, and if Dante didnt benefit from a clip Denver would have swept the division.

I mean, we can go all night if you want ;D

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC


Well I am glad that Elvis Grbac and Greg Hill and even JJ Birden are playing for the Chiefs....


What does that matter?

You've got Eric Warfield, MaSLOWski, Jockless Woods, and Greg Robinson over there. Not exactly an impenetrable fortress...

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Yeah, and if Dante didnt benefit from a clip Denver would have swept the division.

I mean, we can go all night if you want ;D

We really can go all night becuase there were a lot of Denver non calls...

When you play "take away that play" game it opens up a lot of doors that swing both ways.

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC


We really can go all night becuase there were a lot of Denver non calls...

When you play "take away that play" game it opens up a lot of doors that swing both ways.


Is that anything like the "forget about the history of our franchise" game?

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John



What does that matter?

You've got Eric Warfield, MaSLOWski, Jockless Woods, and Greg Robinson over there. Not exactly an imperatrable fortress...

What? Who cares who is playing defense for us...

We have James Hasty, Joe Phillips, and Neil Smith out there...

Everything that matters is in the past.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John



Is that anything like the "forget about the history of our franchise" game?

I can't wait to see Dave Kreig against that Vikings D this Sat.

[Taco John]

Originally posted by ZachKC


What? Who cares who is playing defense for us...

We have James Hasty, Joe Phillips, and Neil Smith out there...

Everything that matters is in the past.


Like the fact that we improved on the Cincinnati roadmap to beat you guys...

What's in the future is the team that perfects it.

I just hope it's us, and in your house.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John



Like the fact that we improved on the Cincinnati roadmap to beat you guys...

What's in the future is the team that perfects it.

I just hope it's us, and in your house.

Your team beat a sub par team....

In your house....

In overtime...

You arn't exactly riding a gravy train with biscut wheels

[Rock Chalk]

Damn.

Dave Kreig.

Talk about inconsistent. That guy was either on fire or the worst QB in the league.

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by Taco John



Like the fact that we improved on the Cincinnati roadmap to beat you guys...

What's in the future is the team that perfects it.

I just hope it's us, and in your house.

Well every team has been beat at least 2 times in the NFL...

So there are a lot of roadmaps floating around...

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Damn.

Dave Kreig.

Talk about inconsistent. That guy was either on fire or the worst QB in the league.

Do you remember when Steve Bono ran that naked boot against the Cards 74 yds for a TD... lol

[Arkie]

The easiest way for Denver to get a playoff win would be at Arrowhead. Their defense offers very little resistence. We should have swept them. I have no doubts they'll lose their first game at home. I just hope the Broncos get to play them.

The Chiefs are "unbeatable" at home. C'mon! Denver is the only good team they've played at Arrowhead. Sure, the Chiefs looked impressive there last week against Detroit. If you look at the home game before that, it was a 3 point win against the Fade.

[ZachKC]

The Chiefs cannot be beat in Arrowhead.

[ZachKC]

You Bronco fans sure do use the word "should" a whole lot.

[Arkie]

I know most of you hate stats.

These stats don't lie:

Kansas City's OVERALL defense (28th)
Kansas City's RUSH defense (29th)

This defense was exposed in a cupcake schedule. What do you think will happen to them in the playoffs?

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by ArkansasBronco
I know most of you hate stats.

These stats don't lie:

Kansas City's OVERALL defense (28th)
Kansas City's RUSH defense (29th)

This defense was exposed in a cupcake schedule. What do you think will happen to them in the playoffs?

Stats do lie if you are looking at the wrong ones...there were a lot of games the Chiefs were outgained in but won...

12-2 thats quite a stat.

[Taco John]

"History doesn't matter. Just you wait and see..."

[ZachKC]

TJ, if it makes you feel better then run with it...

[Arkie]

Dick Vermiel said the game in Denver was practice in a real playoff like setting.

The Chiefs defense gave up 508 yards and 45 points. This is a glimpse into their playoff future.

[Taco John]

What do I need to feel better about? We throttled your team to the point where Portis was gaining 17.3 yards per carry in the second half of the game.

We beat you guys soundly. I should say to you, if ignoring the past makes you feel any better, then run with it.

[Elevation 5280']

I agree that the Chiefs are inferior to the Broncos, but they do seem to have some "luck" at home. They seem to get all the calls and no-calls that benefit them, and the homefield advantage is a real one for them.

They are not nearly as good as the Colts, Titans, Bengals, Broncos, Dolphins, Patriots, if they play anywhere but arrowdead. Otherwise, they would probably play close to all of those teams.

The bad news for the McChefs? They will probably have to play a good team on the road in the playoffs......if not, the SB is a road game....

[Rock Chalk]

Originally posted by ZachKC
TJ, if it makes you feel better then run with it...

Do you have this in a macro or something? You sure do say it alot Zach.

No I dont remember the Steve Bono bootleg, what year was it?

[Taco John]

It's funny that he told me to "run with it."

Apparently, that's what the Chiefs as a whole are permitting these days...

[Taco John]

http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfle9a_lower.jpg


"You tell those Broncos if giving the ball to Portis makes them feel any better, then run with it!"

[Taco John]

http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfle98_lower.jpg


"You got it boss."

[Rock Chalk]

:spit:

[Taco John]

http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfle97_lower.jpg


"Trent! Run with it!"

[Taco John]

http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfle9c_lower.jpg


"No hard feelings, aight?" ;)

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by XtremeReaction


Well back in 1969 the Len Dawson crossed the LOS his whole body I heard about that over and over.....see how stupid your sh$t sounds...............;D

Xtreme, what game? I was fortunate enough to see all of those games and I don't remember there being an incident about Lenny crossing the line of scrimmage.

As far as Elway goes, that was almost a trademark play, it may have even been the doncos play book.

In 1969 the video wasn't as prevalent as it is today and in recent years. NFL Films has copies of all of the games now, full games not just clips. I would venture to say that Elway won games for Denver on the last drives of the games and in those I'd guess that 25-35% of them he crossed the line and then passed the ball for a completion. Not marginally, but 3-5 yards past the line.

The refs missed those infractions, just as they missed a call in the first Chiefs denver game. Does that mean that denver shouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl during those years because of a bad or missed call?

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Yeah, and if Dante didnt benefit from a clip Denver would have swept the division.

I mean, we can go all night if you want ;D

And if a frogs ass was not watertight he would sink!

Denver went to a SB with Elway not getting caught passing beyond the LOS, you argument sucks.

[SJ Bronco]

2) The Pat weakness plays to ours...they really don't have an outstanding RB....if we could figure out how to get even the smallest of a pass rush I like our matchup against them better than our matchup with you....

This is a good assesment. the cheifs are the only team that matches up well with the Pats, but don't be fooled this team wins on defense. he chiefs don't match-up at all however witht the Colts (we do when healthy) and the Ravens if they have a good day passing. In fact, the ravens and the broncos have similar looking teams this year, and the chiefs just can't take that style of dreg out, knock down ball. It was the same knock that the Dick-4-meal rams teams had. Thats why the giants and the bucs handled them so well back in the day. I don't think the chefs will survive the playoffs, honestly. They need a better d-coordinator first.

Is anyone else sick of the stupid argument that the "bears beat you and the Browns should have"? ??? I mean, thats as dumb as saying that the Bungles were the same team in week one that they were when the chiefs got Johnsoned by them. Thier not. Fact is, the bears are a team thats one player away, and the Browns are just plain getting healthy right now, and they hate us with a passion. The browns are semi-rivals (at least in clevelands mind) so of course they played us tough. The bears match-up well with us, and the lions were playing well when we got to them, so were the steelers and the Vikings. Teams get hot and cold. Sometimes WHEN you catch them is important. I'd have loved to play the pats in week two. The only real way to tell how teams measure up (and this is why college football blows like a hurricane wind) is head to head in a pressure situation. If we meet agian in the playoffs, I think no matter who wins, the other side is gonna have to admit that they are the better team, all records and season match-ups aside. Look at the division records. That realy tells the story. We both have the SAME record. Beating only each other!! Thats a close match-up!

[SJ Bronco]

On the subject of injuries. I want all chef fans to close thier eyes and imagine that first meeting eith the broncos. Imagine you had lost that game. Then imagine a few days later, you recieve word that TrINT is out for 6 weeks. Your back-up comes in the following week and goes down with a season ending injury, then you lose your starting outside linebackers for the season and priest holmes goes down with a nagging injury that will keep him in limited time for the next three weeks. Then, because of injuries, you couldn't carry a third QB so you go to a guy that was cut twice in the preseason, and give him three days to learn your playbook and run your offense. NOW Tell me that injuries wouldn't have effected your season. We arn't talking about losing one player for a couple weeks, we are talking about losing FOUR of our top 6 or 7 players to injury, two for the season, and the most important one for OVER a quarter of the season. What would your record be? would you have a bye week in the playoffs? would you have made the playoffs? Can your coach still keep you in every game. Our coach did. So don't give us this "preist holmes had a hip problem last year" bull shyt! If we had lost clinton portis only, we probably still would make the playoffs! We wouldn't have gone anywhere, but we woulda ben in this thing, cause we have a coach that knows what he's doing. all but maybe three coaches in this leauge would have folded to 6-10 under that kinda adversity, but we are in this thing, and we still have a good enough team to go deep in the playoffs if we play well when getting there, so STFU!

[Old Dude]

All I can say is that the Chiefs don't scare me.

They didn't do anything to impress me in the first game, and they looked horrible in the rematch.

It looks to me like we will probably see them in Arrowhead in the first round of the playoffs, and we can finish them off without much trouble.

New England will be pretty tough in the second round, though.

[Spider]

lol Sj , Chief fans shy away from that , they know they wouldnt have survived .........

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
On the subject of injuries. I want all chef fans to close thier eyes and imagine that first meeting eith the broncos. Imagine you had lost that game. Then imagine a few days later, you recieve word that TrINT is out for 6 weeks. Your back-up comes in the following week and goes down with a season ending injury, then you lose your starting outside linebackers for the season and priest holmes goes down with a nagging injury that will keep him in limited time for the next three weeks. Then, because of injuries, you couldn't carry a third QB so you go to a guy that was cut twice in the preseason, and give him three days to learn your playbook and run your offense. NOW Tell me that injuries wouldn't have effected your season. We arn't talking about losing one player for a couple weeks, we are talking about losing FOUR of our top 6 or 7 players to injury, two for the season, and the most important one for OVER a quarter of the season. What would your record be? would you have a bye week in the playoffs? would you have made the playoffs? Can your coach still keep you in every game. Our coach did. So don't give us this "preist holmes had a hip problem last year" bull shyt! If we had lost clinton portis only, we probably still would make the playoffs! We wouldn't have gone anywhere, but we woulda ben in this thing, cause we have a coach that knows what he's doing. all but maybe three coaches in this leauge would have folded to 6-10 under that kinda adversity, but we are in this thing, and we still have a good enough team to go deep in the playoffs if we play well when getting there, so STFU!

Gee, that is really bad. I guess that the donkos are the only team in the league that have had or ever has had injuries to their starters.

It seems to me that the year the Chiefs won Super Bowl IV Lenny was injured for a good part of the season, as well as others.

All you are doing is saying that your team has no depth.

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


Gee, that is really bad. I guess that the donkos are the only team in the league that have had or ever has had injuries to their starters.

It seems to me that the year the Chiefs won Super Bowl IV Lenny was injured for a good part of the season, as well as others.

All you are doing is saying that your team has no depth.
Say What ? your comparing a 1969 Team to a 2003 team ? you are an Idiot . Besides what have you guys done since 69 ? Thats right nothing ..... and you guys still havent done squat this year .......

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Say What ? your comparing a 1969 Team to a 2003 team ? you are an Idiot . Besides what have you guys done since 69 ? Thats right nothing ..... and you guys still havent done squat this year .......

Jane you ignorant slut (SNL),

You complained about your losing some starters and that you have fallen apart and said the Chiefs would do the same. You don't know that, besides history (as provided) proves different. As far as what have we done since '69? Playoffs for 7 years running during the 90's. What did you do before Elway? Nothing at all, never.

Now speak of this year. 12-2 I don't care who you are, how good you think you are playing and how many points you won your game by, 12-2 is a good season. The teams that arent' crap? Let me see, who have the Chiefs played that were undefeated before they played the Chiefs?

Look, your year sucks wind so far. If you can manage to win the rest of your games you get to the playoffs. Even if you get to the playoffs most fans in the US think the donkos suck. Enjoy.

[Spider]

Oh Bull**** ... Dont give me that , your telling us that if green , Holmes , Gonzo goes down , the Chiefs dont miss a Beat thats beyond homerism, your now venturing into Fader fan territory of complete and total stupid ..... Now either you get better takes or your Punk ass is on Ignore
Get it ?
Got it ?
good .........

[Spider]

Oh and Before Elway ..1977 SB ..... you Dweeb ..... Elway came on in 83 .... Thanks for playing ....

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®
Oh and Before Elway ..1977 SB ..... you Dweeb ..... Elway came on in 83 .... Thanks for playing ....

Panties in a knot?

Look, you approached the line in the first place. You are a homer, how is it that you expect any other teams fans to be following your line of bs?

Isn't that what fanatics are all about? Backing their team?

You guys lost your QB, so what. My point was that others have done it this year and in years past. There is not thing one you can do about it other than live with it.

We have been fortunate this year, dinged but not damaged. I don't remember you pulling the hankey last year when Priest was injured while playing you guys. So don't expect us to have pity on your team.

Nobody wants an injury to end a career, but injuries happen, live with it!

If you want to ignore me, that is fine but you should remember, I am only one of many!

[Spider]

just like Denver never did anything before elway huh ....... youre a clown ......

[Spider]

Oh and By the way , the post you answered on was how would chiefs do with our Injuries , you just answered the question ....... you brought up last year , and you guys wernt even close to sniffing the Playoffs ........

[Rock Chalk]

Originally posted by tomcash


And if a frogs ass was not watertight he would sink!

Denver went to a SB with Elway not getting caught passing beyond the LOS, you argument sucks.

Hey moron, if you read the post I was responding to Zach was using IF statements.

Idiots need to learn to read the WHOLE thread and quit taking quotes out of context.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Look dude I am a Homer
THAT, my friends, is the understatement of the year.
Spider, I have to give it to you, out of all the boards I've been on and all of the posts I've read, you're by far the biggest homer I've seen.
For that, I present you this award

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

THAT, my friends, is the understatement of the year.
Spider, I have to give it to you, out of all the boards I've been on and all of the posts I've read, you're by far the biggest homer I've seen.
For that, I present you this award
Iaccept that Honor , but I dont deserve it , Naw there are Plenty of Chief fans that are more deserving then me ...... After all with that Chiefs Defense and they still believe they have a shot , that is Homerism I I can only dream about

[RukdaFaidas]

Don't cut yourself short, you deserve it. Yes, there are plenty of homer Chief fans, but none (that I'm aware of anyways) that can take you. So just accept the award and place it on your mantle.

[Spider]

I would love to but Denver has a real Shot , were Playing sound Defense , Offense is up and Going , Sp Teams even Playing better , But for the Chiefs and their Fans . it is all bad News , your Defense couldnt stop a group of Nuns from Jay walking ..... let alone win a SB ......

[SJ Bronco]

Gee, that is really bad. I guess that the donkos are the only team in the league that have had or ever has had injuries to their starters.

It seems to me that the year the Chiefs won Super Bowl IV Lenny was injured for a good part of the season, as well as others.

All you are doing is saying that your team has no depth.

Nice spin job. But you missed the entire point there slappy. We endured the injuries and are still in the hunt. The Chefs would have fallen apart.

BTW-I'm not old enough to remember lenny dawson. My dad barely is.

The game has changed a bit since then. Salary cap, free angency, hell just the popularity of the game in the mainstream means the competition level is higher. Expansion stretching the talent pool, ect. Also, I said, MORE THAN ONE PLAYER.

Heres an Idea, before completely doing oral on your peds, read the post, decipher the meaning, then, make a reasoned argument that makes sense. FACT is, when the broncos are healthy, they are better than the chefs, despite what the record says. Factors contribute to having the record the teams in the leauge so. You can't say thats a homer take cause the members of this board have ben downright vocal about thier chances in Indy this week. We know a good team when we see one. The chefs ARE NOT as good as thier record reads, and the Broncos are not as bad as thier record reads. Are the chefs a playoff quality team. Oh hell yeah. Noone is saying they arn't. Are they best team in football, not even close. We won't even say the Broncos are cause we can see the truth. Step back from Dicky V's koolaid and learn to see the world in more of a white light cause that yellow florecent bulb is blurring the words on the screen for you.

[RukdaFaidas]

Spider, I'm going to give you some insight. While yards are important, points are even more important. You can go into a game and win, but not have the most yards. Amazing, isn't it? Happens all of the time. In fact, I'll say it happened several times last week and I haven't even looked. So, if it's points that matter, lets look at the season so far. KC's defense has been lousy in every definition of the word, especially yards. But if you look at the points they've given up, it's not near as bad as you would think. Here's KC's and Denvers point differential per game:

KC - allow 20.3, score 30.9 PD/game =10.6
Den - allow 18.1, score 24.8 PD/game =6.7

Yes, that even includes the azz beating in Denver. So the Chiefs might be at the bottom in yards allowed, but that doesn't mean they're giving up the most points. The Chiefs are giving up less than a FG more per game than the Broncos, but they're scoring almost a TD more per game, hence the 12-2 record.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®
Oh and By the way , the post you answered on was how would chiefs do with our Injuries , you just answered the question ....... you brought up last year , and you guys wernt even close to sniffing the Playoffs ........
I'm quite certain the Chiefs could have managed the same 0-4 record the Broncos did.

[SJ Bronco]

KC - allow 20.3, score 30.9 PD/game =10.6
Den - allow 18.1, score 24.8 PD/game =6.7

Yes, that even includes the azz beating in Denver. So the Chiefs might be at the bottom in yards allowed, but that doesn't mean they're giving up the most points. The Chiefs are giving up less than a FG more per game than the Broncos, but they're scoring almost a TD more per game, hence the 12-2 record.

This is meaningless. Of course a ball control, defensive minded team is gonna score less points, Point difference only counts in sorry ass college football. Win is a win.

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

I'm quite certain the Chiefs could have managed the same 0-4 record the Broncos did.
Exactly But Denver went 1-3 thank you . and By the way we have Playoff Hopes ...... KC didnt ......

[R8er_H8er]

Hey Rukda,

Isn't it amazing that they claim greatness and still are having to depend on others for their fortune?

Denver fans go to battle and are surprised that they are losing, especially when they pull out their accordian to shoot with.

Go Chiefs - Super Bowl Bound

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas
Spider, I'm going to give you some insight. While yards are important, points are even more important. You can go into a game and win, but not have the most yards. Amazing, isn't it? Happens all of the time. In fact, I'll say it happened several times last week and I haven't even looked. So, if it's points that matter, lets look at the season so far. KC's defense has been lousy in every definition of the word, especially yards. But if you look at the points they've given up, it's not near as bad as you would think. Here's KC's and Denvers point differential per game:

KC - allow 20.3, score 30.9 PD/game =10.6
Den - allow 18.1, score 24.8 PD/game =6.7

Yes, that even includes the azz beating in Denver. So the Chiefs might be at the bottom in yards allowed, but that doesn't mean they're giving up the most points. The Chiefs are giving up less than a FG more per game than the Broncos, but they're scoring almost a TD more per game, hence the 12-2 record.
All that means squat ... Defense wins this time of year , sorry but that is the way it goes and your Defense sucks , spin it however you want ........

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Exactly But Denver went 1-3 thank you . and By the way we have Playoff Hopes ...... KC didnt ......

KC didn't have playoff hopes last year when Priest went down. Where is your head? Oops, excuse me, the brown ring around your neck gives it away!

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


This is meaningless. Of course a ball control, defensive minded team is gonna score less points, Point difference only counts in sorry ass college football. Win is a win.
Ah, you must have missed the part that says 12-2.

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash
Hey Rukda,

Isn't it amazing that they claim greatness and still are having to depend on others for their fortune?

Denver fans go to battle and are surprised that they are losing, especially when they pull out their accordian to shoot with.

Go Chiefs - Super Bowl Bound
Who are we depending on ? who has to lose for Denver to make the Playoffs ? or is this another one of those Broncos didnt do squat before Elway things ?

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

All that means squat ... Defense wins this time of year , sorry but that is the way it goes and your Defense sucks , spin it however you want ........

If the defense gives up 30 points and the offense puts up 40 points do we still lose?

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Who are we depending on ? who has to lose for Denver to make the Playoffs ? or is this another one of those Broncos didnt do squat before Elway things ?

What, you need us to explain that to you too?

Or since Elway.

[SJ Bronco]

Hey Rukda,

Isn't it amazing that they claim greatness and still are having to depend on others for their fortune?

We control our own destiny...next

Denver fans go to battle and are surprised that they are losing, especially when they pull out their accordian to shoot with.

Wha? An Accordian? WTF?? Dude, what the hell does that mean?

Go Chiefs - Super Bowl Bound

I just wanted this on record so I can use it as my sig after the chiefs lose in the playoffs. Thanks for the quote myopian.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Exactly But Denver went 1-3 thank you . and By the way we have Playoff Hopes ...... KC didnt ......
Oops, you're right. Good job.
I don't get the KC didn't, though.