Dear God... Please let us play the Chiefs in Arrowhead in the first round playoffs

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


KC didn't have playoff hopes last year when Priest went down. Where is your head? Oops, excuse me, the brown ring around your neck gives it away!
Hello ? Denver has Playoffs this year , Chiefs same situation last year didnt ...... you awake ? h e r e it is the statment was made Chiefs couldnt have done what Denver did this year with injuries ..... try and keep up

[SJ Bronco]

If the defense gives up 30 points and the offense puts up 40 points do we still lose?

Tell me a good defense that your OFFENCE has put up that many points.

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

Oops, you're right. Good job.
I don't get the KC didn't, though.
Playoffs

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Hello ? Denver has Playoffs this year , Chiefs same situation last year didnt ...... you awake ? h e r e it is the statment was made Chiefs couldnt have done what Denver did this year with injuries ..... try and keep up

Last year the Chiefs were out of the playoffs before Priest went down. HELLO!!!!! HELLO!!!!! Get your head out.

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


What, you need us to explain that to you too?

Or since Elway.
Tell me who does Denver need to lose to make Playoffs ...... you Made the statment we are relying on others , I am just curious as to who has to lose for Denver to make Playoffs ?

[SJ Bronco]

We lost arguably 4 of our top 6 players to injury all at the same time, two for the season, you guys lost catholic priest holmes. The Broncos will still make the playoffs....The chiefs ...well they didn't have a shot in the dark.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Playoffs
The Chiefs weren't eliminated from the playoffs until the last game of the season last year.

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


Last year the Chiefs were out of the playoffs before Priest went down. HELLO!!!!! HELLO!!!!! Get your head out.
Exactly you Guys suck No Matter what ....... Finaly he gets it

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Tell me a good defense that your OFFENCE has put up that many points.

Arguing with you guys is fruitless, you are homers to the nth degree, just as we are. We will not relent and you have no ammunition.

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

The Chiefs weren't eliminated from the playoffs until the last game of the season last year.
you was still eliminated ......... Rest my case ....... Next Mullet

[SJ Bronco]

Last year the Chiefs were out of the playoffs before Priest went down. HELLO!!!!! HELLO!!!!! Get your head out.

Get his head out?? LMMFAO Dude, you guys are the morons making the argument that losing him to a hip was the reason you didn't make the playoffs. YOU GUYS brought it up as a comparison to our injury troubles. NOT US! You guys are genius! MY GOODNESS!

[SJ Bronco]

Arguing with you guys is fruitless, you are homers to the nth degree, just as we are. We will not relent and you have no ammunition.

Answer the question meat!

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


Arguing with you guys is fruitless, you are homers to the nth degree, just as we are. We will not relent and you have no ammunition.
The Mans question was simple enough . answer it if you can

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Exactly you Guys suck No Matter what ....... Finaly he gets it

We are currently 12-2...............jealous?

There is wind in Kansas because Denver sucks.

It's been fun, but I have to go to work. Maybe you should start giving your boss his money's worth as well.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Get his head out?? LMMFAO Dude, you guys are the morons making the argument that losing him to a hip was the reason you didn't make the playoffs. YOU GUYS brought it up as a comparison to our injury troubles. NOT US! You guys are genius! MY GOODNESS!
There should be a law protecting these guys SJ ;D

[SJ Bronco]

RUKDAFAIDAS-The Chiefs weren't eliminated from the playoffs until the last game of the season last year.

TOMCASH-Last year the Chiefs were out of the playoffs before Priest went down. HELLO!!!!! HELLO!!!!! Get your head out.

What game did preist get injured in...cause I'm not sure you guys are on the same wavelenght.

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


We are currently 12-2...............jealous?

There is wind in Kansas because Denver sucks.

It's been fun, but I have to go to work. Maybe you should start giving your boss his money's worth as well.
Not at all ...... Denver has over came alot , and to be Blunt Chiefs are a fraud 45-27 ass whipping Denver laid on you guys

[SJ Bronco]

There is wind in Kansas because Denver sucks

So now the chiefs have an "autum wind" as well? Man I knew the fan bases were similar.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
RUKDAFAIDAS-

TOMCASH-

What game did preist get injured in...cause I'm not sure you guys are on the same wavelenght.
LMMFAO . I saw that also ....

[SJ Bronco]

It's been fun, but I have to go to work. Maybe you should start giving your boss his money's worth as well.

See what happens when you work as a pizza delivery guy?
Man, im glad I keep my own hours. Comes from being educated and all and having a good job.

[SJ Bronco]

Guess they got nothin' on this one huh?

[Spider]

LMMFAO , well this thread went well

[SJ Bronco]

Funny how the chief fans would rather ignore you and run than admit your right...wierd. Were is Royce, I need to restore my faith in chief fans.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
Funny how the chief fans would rather ignore you and run than admit your right...wierd. Were is Royce, I need to restore my faith in chief fans.
I havent seen him in awhile ..... He was a blast

[RukdaFaidas]

I'm back, what questions do you want answers to?

[RukdaFaidas]

Hello?

[RukdaFaidas]

Since you won't answer, I see two questions that I think you're asking.
1. What good defense have the Chiefs put 40 on? It really depends on what you call a good defense. We hung 38 on Buffalo, which is ranked #2 in yards allowed and #3 in scoring. The Chiefs put 40 on Pittsburgh, Houston, Green Bay, Cleveland and Detroit. I would consider Pit, G.B. and Clev. pretty good defenses.

2. When did Priest go down? You should know when Priest got injured, it was against Denver with two games remaining. The Chiefs were 8-7 going into their final game and mathematically still contending, just like the Broncos.

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by §Pide®

The Mans question was simple enough . answer it if you can

Kansas City Denver
W 27 - 14 San Diego Chargers W 30 - 10 at Cincinnati
W 41 - 20 Pittsburgh Steelers W 37 - 13 At San Diego
W 42 - 14 at Houston Texans W 45 - 17 Oakland
W 17 - 10 at Baltimore Ravens W 20 - 17 Detroit
W 24 - 23 Denver Broncos W 17 - 14 Pittsburg
W 40 - 34 at Green Bay Packers W 37 - 8 San Diego
W 17 - 10 at Oakland Raiders W 22 - 8 Oakland
W 38 - 5 Buffalo Bills W 45 - 27 Kansas City
W 41 - 20 Cleveland Browns W 23 - 20 Cleveland
W 27 - 24 Oakland Raiders
W 28 - 24 at San Diego Chargers
W 45 - 17 Detroit Lions


Both teams wins listed above. OK, you pick. Who has done better? The bottom line is as always. Any given Sunday.
I left both teams loses off. If you want them get them, it only hurts your argument.

Something that I don't think any of you get is that it is only a game. We (you and I) have no influence in the outcome, only opinions, and they are just as smelly which ever side you choose to take.

Enjoy the rest of the season and have a safe and Merry Christmas and New Year.

[SJ Bronco]

You still havn't answered the question, please scroll back....

After all that smack you threw around, we point out your wrong, and now its us who are taking it too seriously? Hummmm

34 posts on a broncos board? I sure don't care enough to spend all my time at Chef planet.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
You still havn't answered the question, please scroll back....

After all that smack you threw around, we point out your wrong, and now its us who are taking it too seriously? Hummmm

34 posts on a broncos board? I sure don't care enough to spend all my time at Chef planet.
SJ, what question are you referring to? I'll answer it, I ain't scared.;D

[SJ Bronco]

Since you won't answer, I see two questions that I think you're asking.
1. What good defense have the Chiefs put 40 on? It really depends on what you call a good defense. We hung 38 on Buffalo, which is ranked #2 in yards allowed and #3 in scoring. The Chiefs put 40 on Pittsburgh, Houston, Green Bay, Cleveland and Detroit. I would consider Pit, G.B. and Clev. pretty good defenses.

Ah, thats the question I was looking for. Now, subtract the points you scored on SPECIAL TEAMS AND DEFENSE! And I only count Buffalo, the rest are not good defenses by any stretch of the imagination at the time you played them. Cleveland got healthy and MIGHT be now, but even they arn't that damn good.

[Spider]

Originally posted by tomcash


Kansas City Denver
W 27 - 14 San Diego Chargers W 30 - 10 at Cincinnati
W 41 - 20 Pittsburgh Steelers W 37 - 13 At San Diego
W 42 - 14 at Houston Texans W 45 - 17 Oakland
W 17 - 10 at Baltimore Ravens W 20 - 17 Detroit
W 24 - 23 Denver Broncos W 17 - 14 Pittsburg
W 40 - 34 at Green Bay Packers W 37 - 8 San Diego
W 17 - 10 at Oakland Raiders W 22 - 8 Oakland
W 38 - 5 Buffalo Bills W 45 - 27 Kansas City
W 41 - 20 Cleveland Browns W 23 - 20 Cleveland
W 27 - 24 Oakland Raiders
W 28 - 24 at San Diego Chargers
W 45 - 17 Detroit Lions


Both teams wins listed above. OK, you pick. Who has done better? The bottom line is as always. Any given Sunday.
I left both teams loses off. If you want them get them, it only hurts your argument.

Something that I don't think any of you get is that it is only a game. We (you and I) have no influence in the outcome, only opinions, and they are just as smelly which ever side you choose to take.

Enjoy the rest of the season and have a safe and Merry Christmas and New Year.
It is Clear Denver was Better , Look at the AFC west games , then go out from there , that what matters the Most , Now we met up with the Steelers without jake , Vikes , Ravens with a 3 rd string QB . Bottom line is Denver is 8-2 under Jake , and he is only getting Better each week . Soo you will wake up and smell the Coffee about Defense .................


Merry Xmas to you and youres , may the Holidays be bright and happy ........ Happy new years

[SJ Bronco]

BTW-You scored 38 on buffalo, not 40 wich I see you realized, It was stated that your offense could hang 40 easily. My point is, without your special teams your team does not hang 40 per game.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Ah, thats the question I was looking for. Now, subtract the points you scored on SPECIAL TEAMS AND DEFENSE! And I only count Buffalo, the rest are not good defenses by any stretch of the imagination at the time you played them. Cleveland got healthy and MIGHT be now, but even they arn't that damn good.
Oh good lord SJ, all of the teams I posted are only healthy when they play the Broncos?
If the only game that counts is Buffalo, all of the points in that game were by the offense, unless you want to subtract M. Andersens kicking points.

[SJ Bronco]

GB was a good showing for you guys. I think thats a game that you guys managed to hang 40 without special teams help, although I see a fumble recovery in thier territory, but I can't realy see anything there.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®

It is Clear Denver was Better , Look at the AFC west games , then go out from there , that what matters the Most , Now we met up with the Steelers without jake , Vikes , Ravens with a 3 rd string QB . Bottom line is Denver is 8-2 under Jake , and he is only getting Better each week . Soo you will wake up and smell the Coffee about Defense .................


Merry Xmas to you and youres , may the Holidays be bright and happy ........ Happy new years
You crack me upHilarious!

[SJ Bronco]

Oh good lord SJ, all of the teams I posted are only healthy when they play the Broncos?
If the only game that counts is Buffalo, all of the points in that game were by the offense, unless you want to subtract M. Andersens kicking points.

Dude, who said that? Don't put words in my mouth spin doctor. I said I STILL wouldn't count them. We laid an egg against them. And I already said you scored 38 in buffalo, not to mention they suck, but they have a halfway decent defense though. So I can give you that one. I think I'll give you greenbay, although I remember a late kick return set up that victory as well. I can't prove that though.

To make a long story short, the whole point is, this 40 point juggernaught that you guys claim can drop 40 points doesn't exist. Stats lie. You have to realy look to get the real story. This is in responce to someone saying that it didn't matter if you give up 30 points per game cause the offense can score 40, wich isn't true.

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

You crack me upHilarious!
Well thank you want to hear another funny ......... Chiefs think they have a shot at a SB ..........Hilarious! rofl :laugh: Ha!

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
You still havn't answered the question, please scroll back....

After all that smack you threw around, we point out your wrong, and now its us who are taking it too seriously? Hummmm

34 posts on a broncos board? I sure don't care enough to spend all my time at Chef planet.

I am not a member of Chiefs Planet.

I post on Kansascity.com

[ZachKC]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Now, subtract the points you scored on SPECIAL TEAMS AND DEFENSE!

Last time I checked those count so game on.

[SJ Bronco]

You know what Im noticing about the cleveland game. (Im showing you how good your arguments could be if you took the time to back them up with fact) Im looking at kick and punt return yards, and I see nothing from Hall. There is proof that not kicking to Daunte does not gurantee a win against the chefs. I always thought that was a bad stratagy. Just causes you to make bad kicks and lose the field position battle.

[SJ Bronco]

Last time I checked those count so game on.

Hey, johnny come lately. Check the convo and then make a comment. Don't interject if you don't know whats going on. No go away, grown folks are talking.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Dude, who said that? Don't put words in my mouth spin doctor. I said I STILL wouldn't count them. We laid an egg against them. And I already said you scored 38 in buffalo, not to mention they suck, but they have a halfway decent defense though. So I can give you that one. I think I'll give you greenbay, although I remember a late kick return set up that victory as well. I can't prove that though.

To make a long story short, the whole point is, this 40 point juggernaught that you guys claim can drop 40 points doesn't exist. Stats lie. You have to realy look to get the real story. This is in responce to someone saying that it didn't matter if you give up 30 points per game cause the offense can score 40, wich isn't true.
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you came out saying teams such as Cleveland don't count, because they weren't healthy. Who on their defense was hurt when the Chiefs played them? There might have been, but I don't remember and I don't think it matters.
I didn't make the hang 40 comment, but I do agree they can do it. They're AVERAGING over 30 points a game, what makes you think they can't score 40?

[SJ Bronco]

I post on Kansascity.com

I'll check it out, maybe its a good site, unlike chef planet.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Well thank you want to hear another funny ......... Chiefs think they have a shot at a SB ..........Hilarious! rofl :laugh: Ha!
You're funny, but don't quit your day job. ;D

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


This is in responce to someone saying that it didn't matter if you give up 30 points per game cause the offense can score 40, wich isn't true.

If you are going to quote me, at least get it correct. I did not say it didn't matter if you give up 30 points per game because the offense can score 40.

I said, and I quote:
"If the defense gives up 30 points and the offense puts up 40 points do we still lose?"

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

You're funny, but don't quit your day job. ;D
I have a night job ;D

[SJ Bronco]

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but you came out saying teams such as Cleveland don't count, because they weren't healthy. Who on their defense was hurt when the Chiefs played them? There might have been, but I don't remember and I don't think it matters.

Accualy it doesn't matter much, but they were missing d and O lineman. I only say they don't count cause they arn't very good. They got to us though cause we played right into there defensiveplan. I think that team will be good next year, they just need a new coach. I think they are a better team then when the chiefs played them, but thats far from an excuse. We still shouldn't have come that close. Thats what happens when you play ball control/defense. Sometimes you can't score enough points to help out your D. Thats how we lost to the bears too.

I didn't make the hang 40 comment, but I do agree they can do it. They're AVERAGING over 30 points a game, what makes you think they can't score 40?

I don't think they can score 40 on a playoff caliber team, cause they havn't.

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


I don't think they can score 40 on a playoff caliber team, cause they havn't.

Up to this point, have they needed to ?

[SJ Bronco]

"If the defense gives up 30 points and the offense puts up 40 points do we still lose?"

I understand this, and my responce was, what makes you think you can hang 40 on offense when you've only done it a couple of times to bad teams. You want to win in the playoffs don't you? Then you might not want to rely on dropping 40. Might want to play a little defense. Who cares if you got into the playoffs. We care cause its a step up for us. You guys are focused superbowl, and you accualy think your gonna get there without playing defense. THIS is the base of all our arguments. You can even beat us (convicingly) a team on the cusp, and you lost to the bengals, (another team on the cusp) the colts, titansand Pats will run you guys out of town. Specialy without homefield advantage.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco

I don't think they can score 40 on a playoff caliber team, cause they havn't.
There's a pretty good chance you'll see it this week.

[Spider]

God I love this Place ;D

[SJ Bronco]

Up to this point, have they needed to ?

Yes! LOL of course. Your defense will give up 40 to teams that arn't scoring well on anyone else, yes, you better score 40 or more in the playoffs. Unless your goal was just to get to the playoffs, then congrats!

[Spider]

Originally posted by RukdaFaidas

There's a pretty good chance you'll see it this week.
VS Minny ? Might, but then Minny very well could hang 50 on your D .......

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
BTW-You scored 38 on buffalo, not 40 wich I see you realized, It was stated that your offense could hang 40 easily. My point is, without your special teams your team does not hang 40 per game.

Gee, I thought scores by special teams counted.

[SJ Bronco]

There's a pretty good chance you'll see it this week.

Oddly enough, thats a chink in my armor. The happless vikings who are backpeddling into the playoffs may make you guys look good. Although, they may still miss the playoffs all together so don't count your chickens. If you guys beat them you won't help your own cause there. The vikings area spitting image of the Chiefs. Similar teams at this point. Besides, don't get too happy about beating a team that will barely make the NFC playoffs! I'd laugh hard if you didn't. Im still mad we didn't get to play them at full strenght, but so it goes.

[SJ Bronco]

Gee, I thought scores by special teams counted.

not when your talking about OFFENCE. Stay with me here.

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by §Pide®

VS Minny ? Might, but then Minny very well could hang 50 on your D .......
Doubt it, but you never know. I'm not real proud of our defense. But to say the Chiefs can't win the playoffs because they don't have a good defense is yet to be determined. All of those one and out KC teams this board has been referring to had great defenses.

[Spider]

Minny depends on how Moss does , if Moss feels like Playing they are Damn tough ........... Although Minnys Defense is in Shambles , this Chiefs Minny Game should be a shootout ...... Holmes VS Moss type of thing ....

[SJ Bronco]

On a nicer note, when are you guys gonna run that idiot robinson out of town. Im suprised chief fans havn't hung him themselves. Not that Im complaining mind you. I hope he retires a chief D-coordinator! LOL

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Yes! LOL of course. Your defense will give up 40 to teams that arn't scoring well on anyone else, yes, you better score 40 or more in the playoffs. Unless your goal was just to get to the playoffs, then congrats!

You should check in with DV. He has a plan and the playoffs are a part of the plan. He says we aren't there yet, but I think we've made great strides towards the goals.

You didn't have to live with the Chiefs from 1972-1988 to appreciated what is happening now, but it really helps. We went through years of less than .500 teams with little or no hope for anything better.

You are right, we don't have the best defense in the league, but last year we felt that if we had a defense that was 10% better we would be in the playoffs. Well, we got the 10%, I'll wait to see where it plays out. I think that even though the defense isn't great like some of them in the past, it has improved over last year. If we maintain the offense as is or improve a little and make another 10% on defense next year, we may repeat.

[SJ Bronco]

Minny depends on how Moss does , if Moss feels like Playing they are Damn tough ........... Although Minnys Defense is in Shambles , this Cjiefs Minny Game should be a shootout ...... Holmes VS Moss type of thing ....

How 'bout moss quitting on a catchable ball over the middle cause he was gonna get hit? After all those people that screamed how moss was the best WR in the game and how they would overlook his problems to take him. He cost them that game last week by getting punked by a rookie in the endzone!

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco
On a nicer note, when are you guys gonna run that idiot robinson out of town. Im suprised chief fans havn't hung him themselves. Not that Im complaining mind you. I hope he retires a chief D-coordinator! LOL

If GR leaves KC, our defense will improve 25% just because he is gone.

Rumor has it that he will replace Shanarat after this year.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


How 'bout moss quitting on a catchable ball over the middle cause he was gonna get hit? After all those people that screamed how moss was the best WR in the game and how they would overlook his problems to take him. He cost them that game last week by getting punked by a rookie in the endzone!
Yeah Last time I said Harrision was Better then Moss , Bronco Man 13 went apeshiat ....... I said Rod Smith was Better then Moss , Chief fan , and Patch went Apeshiat ..... ;D

[SJ Bronco]

You are right, we don't have the best defense in the league, but last year we felt that if we had a defense that was 10% better we would be in the playoffs. Well, we got the 10%, I'll wait to see where it plays out. I think that even though the defense isn't great like some of them in the past, it has improved over last year. If we maintain the offense as is or improve a little and make another 10% on defense next year, we may repeat.

If you guys had ANY defense you would have won this div. last year. IMHO, you guys had a better offense last year. Yeah the D is better, but its not enough to comensate. I think its too early to think "next year". Even though I think you can't do it this year, stranger things have happened. How the hell did the faid get to the SB with that team last year? ???

[R8er_H8er]

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[Rohirrim]

I don't see why, Spider. Harrison and Smith ARE better than Moss.

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


How the hell did the faid get to the SB with that team last year? ???

Leftovers from Grudens influence.

[SJ Bronco]

If GR leaves KC, our defense will improve 25% just because he is gone.

Rumor has it that he will replace Shanarat after this year.

Don't even joke like that!

Yeah, our defense shot up the charts after he left, but even more after Rhodes left. I'll admit, when the Broncos were winning in spit of thier defense in the late 90's I thought it was pretty cool, but I can't tell you how much better you sleep when your eeking out victories with defense. Sounds funny, but you always feel like your gonna win every week, despite what happens.

[SJ Bronco]

Leftovers from Grudens influence.

LOL John Gruden-The only coach to lead two teams to the superbowl in the same year! LOL

[Spider]

Originally posted by Rohirrim
I don't see why, Spider. Harrison and Smith ARE better than Moss.
Oh man , it was in a thread called so you Still think Rod is better then Moss . I said yes and why and all Hell broke lose , it got so out of hand ( insults what not ) few People were calling for me to be banned . then I added Harrision was Better then Moss and Bronco Man 13 went Apeshiat saying I was calling him out . I still dont know what Happened but it was fun as hell ;D

[SJ Bronco]

Yeah Last time I said Harrision was Better then Moss , Bronco Man 13 went apeshiat ....... I said Rod Smith was Better then Moss , Chief fan , and Patch went Apeshiat .....

Thats because most people only know what ESPN and the pregame shows tell them. If you know anything about football, you can see who the real stars are. The funny part is, I don't want to sit here and say Im the end all of football knowlege, but I'm confident I know more than most of these so called "experts" and most of them played! and all of them get paid. They might as well go pick up thier paychecks with a gun and a mask!

[SJ Bronco]

Oh man , it was in a thread called so you Still think Rod is better then Moss . I said yes and why and all Hell broke lose , it got so out of hand ( insults what not ) few People were calling for me to be banned . then I added Harrision was Better then Moss and Bronco Man 13 went Apeshiat saying I was calling him out . I still dont know what Happened but it was fun as hell

Trouble maker! God knows I would never start trouble! ;D

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Don't even joke like that!




That is what you call a hurtz donut!

I'd rather you had him than us.

I'd actually go for Gunther Cunningham's defense, or Bill Cohwers. Somewhere there has to be a DC that knows the difference between $#!t and shinola!

[SJ Bronco]

SOR XIC S:1/15 MOV 0.01 F8:5 EOR SOR GRT S:8 10 DIV S:8 1000.0 F8:5 EOR SOR EQU S:21 7 ONS B3/0 BST MOV N25:63 S:21 NXB MOV N25:64 S:22 NXB MOV N25:65 S:23 BND EOR SOR JSR 5 0 EOR SOR JSR 6 0 EOR SOR JSR 7 0 EOR SOR JSR 9 0 EOR SOR JSR 10 0 EOR SOR JSR 11 0 EOR SOR JSR 12 0 EOR SOR JSR 13 0 EOR SOR JSR 14 0 EOR SOR JSR 15 0 EOR SOR JSR 16 0 EOR SOR JSR 17 0 EOR SOR JSR 20 0 EOR SOR AFI JSR 21 0 EOR SOR JSR 22 0 EOR SOR JSR 23 0 EOR SOR JSR 24 0 EOR SOR JSR 25 0 EOR SOR JSR 26 0 EOR SOR JSR 27 0 EOR SOR JSR 28 0 EOR SOR JSR 29 0 EOR SOR AFI JSR 30 0 EOR SOR JSR 31 0 EOR SOR JSR 32 0 EOR SOR AFI JSR 33 0 EOR SOR JSR 34 0 EOR SOR JSR 39 0 EOR SOR JSR 40 0 EOR SOR JSR 41 0 EOR SOR JSR 42 0 EOR SOR JSR 43 0 EOR SOR JSR 44 0 EOR SOR JSR 45 0 EOR SOR JSR 46 0 EOR SOR JSR 47 0 EOR SOR JSR 48 0 EOR SOR JSR 49 0 EOR SOR JSR 50 0 EOR SOR JSR 51 0 EOR SOR JSR 52 0 EOR SOR JSR 53 0 EOR SOR JSR 54 0 EOR SOR JSR 55 0 EOR SOR JSR 56 0 EOR SOR JSR 57 0 EOR SOR JSR 58 0 EOR SOR XIC N41:58/5 AFI JSR 59 0 EOR SOR JSR 61 0 EOR SOR JSR 70 0 EOR SOR JSR 71 0 EOR SOR JSR 72 0 EOR SOR JSR 73 0 EOR SOR JSR 74 0 EOR SOR JSR 75 0 EOR SOR JSR 76 0 EOR SOR JSR 77 0 EOR SOR JSR 78 0 EOR SOR JSR 79 0 EOR

Jeeez Tom, my eyes hurt.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Thats because most people only know what ESPN and the pregame shows tell them. If you know anything about football, you can see who the real stars are. The funny part is, I don't want to sit here and say Im the end all of football knowlege, but I'm confident I know more than most of these so called "experts" and most of them played! and all of them get paid. They might as well go pick up thier paychecks with a gun and a mask!
No Joke , I never said these guys had more physical Talent then Moss , I just tried to explain they bring more to their Game then Moss does , and they are more of a Complete Player , Rod and his blocking , Harrision and his route running I still stand beside that Comment ........

[Spider]

Given a choice between a dollar Bill and Moss . I want the Dollar I can get 4 quarters out of the dollar ;D

[RukdaFaidas]

Originally posted by tomcash


If GR leaves KC, our defense will improve 25% just because he is gone.

Rumor has it that he will replace Shanarat after this year.
I actually think they would improve more than 25% and I'm being serious. Some of things he has done this year have been absolutely rediculous. When GR was with Denver, everyone said he blitzed too much. I bet GR hasn't called 10 blitzes this SEASON. He plays the CB's 10 yards off the LOS. Tells the DL to contain blockers, not push upfield.
After the Denver game, they asked Holliday and Hicks (our DE's) why they weren't containing Plummer on the rollouts and they said GR was making them pinch towards the middle on every snap.
DV"s biggest downfall is loyalty. He should have gotten rid of GR last year, but didn't. GR is in the last year of his contract and if they keep him, you'll hear the screams from Denver.

[SJ Bronco]

I'd actually go for Gunther Cunningham's defense, or Bill Cohwers. Somewhere there has to be a DC that knows the difference between $#!t and shinola!

Lots of em' accually! The chiefs need a fresh prespective. The young guys are ruling right now, as far a defense (accualy, I should say new, not young) I think its a new approach to an old attitude. The ravens, bengals, and Broncos all emply this new technique. The pats still use the old theory, but it works cause they have a genius running the show. Greg Robinson does too, but he's too stupid to make the adjustments week to week play to play, game to game.

[Spider]

See Now I wanted Gunther in Denver before Rhodes came along ...... Gunther is a Better Dc then a HC

[SJ Bronco]

actually think they would improve more than 25% and I'm being serious. Some of things he has done this year have been absolutely rediculous. When GR was with Denver, everyone said he blitzed too much. I bet GR hasn't called 10 blitzes this SEASON. He plays the CB's 10 yards off the LOS. Tells the DL to contain blockers, not push upfield.
After the Denver game, they asked Holliday and Hicks (our DE's) why they weren't containing Plummer on the rollouts and they said GR was making them pinch towards the middle on every snap.
DV"s biggest downfall is loyalty. He should have gotten rid of GR last year, but didn't. GR is in the last year of his contract and if they keep him, you'll hear the screams from Denver.

Your right about the blitzes. Its that he doesn't know when to blitz, and he doesn't know how to gameplan. He uses the same plan for every team. He never gets specific. His coverage desighns are the worst! The chiefs, alot like the broncos, don't have glaring talent on defense. They're best bet is to mix up the coverage a bit more and fake blitzes as aften as you blitz. Also, he hangs his d-line out to dry. Too much zone blitz wich is a desighn thats seen its days and its over. I noticed that they have success blitzing off the corners but not up the middle. I still don't know why that is yet. I'll get back to ya.

[SJ Bronco]

See Now I wanted Gunther in Denver before Rhodes came along ...... Gunther is a Better Dc then a HC

I may be wrong, but that was the D-Coordinator in Dallas a while back?

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


I may be wrong, but that was the D-Coordinator in Dallas a while back?
I dont know for sure , I lost track of him when he left KC , I did hear he is the Titians Linebacker coach though

[SJ Bronco]

I think the chefs need a more basic, "teacher" type of guy. I'd find the #1 defense in college football and inquire within'.

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

and Patch went Apeshiat ..... ;D

you rang....

[Rock Chalk]

I'm on the Gunther bandwagon! Except Coyer has done a helluva job.

[SJ Bronco]

LOL, it was like a Bat Signal! What up patch, your ears burning!

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


you rang....
LOL .... Where ya Been ?

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


Jeeez Tom, my eyes hurt.

It should have looked like this:

SOR XIC S:1/15 MOV 0.01 F8:5 EOR
SOR GRT S:8 10 DIV S:8 1000.0 F8:5 EOR
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END

This is the first program file in a system with 128 files and over 2000 seperate instruction sets. It's fun to do, and yes, it makes your eyes hurt after a while!!

[Spider]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
I'm on the Gunther bandwagon! Except Coyer has done a helluva job.
Iagree Coyer has been the Man

[SJ Bronco]

I'd bet everything I own that you wear glasses!

I work with a computer alot during the day, only diffrence is, I can go outside with a laptop and work. Helps the eyes a bit.

[Rock Chalk]

Hey tom, is that Assembly?

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

LOL .... Where ya Been ?

Building my workshop/garage inbetween coming to work.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


Building my workshop/garage inbetween coming to work.
Right on ...... Sounds like one hellva Project ........ Good luck with it

[Exile_In_SJ]

Originally posted by Phat Endy
I disagree. Camerohead is the last place I want to go. I think that belt business would have KC ready to leave it all on the field.

I'd rather go to New England and play a team we almost beat with Danny Kannell.

That's just my opinion though. ???


I dunno, we lost by a single point to KC and truly dominated them in that game, and in the rematch at Invesco, we embarassed them in the second half.

KC knows we are the better team and there's a psychological hammer hovering over their heads. They're thinking in the back of their minds, hmmm maybe we (the chiefs) aren't that good and we're in for yet another disappointment.. They know how bad they got b*tch slapped in the second game, they know it was a bad call that gave them the first game in arrowhead...

whereas NE is feeling it's oats feeling that no one can match up to them, they have the requisite playoof cockiness going.. The queefs can have absolutely no confidence deep down. They may put on a front, but believe me, it would be just a front.

Gimme the Queefs anyday..

But we first need to take one of our next 2 games..

[SJ Bronco]

Building my workshop/garage inbetween coming to work.

What are you building? Please tell me your a car guy like me, I need someone to geek off with about rebuilding. Im not into that import crap, I just like bringing dead cars back to life, its a rush.

[JAYDAHolmes31]

Originally posted by Exile_In_SJ

they know it was a bad call that gave them the first game in arrowhead...






COuld somebody please call the WhAAAAMbulance Bronco fan is crying about a game lost wayy earlier in the season.

[Spider]

Originally posted by JAYDAHolmes31



COuld somebody please call the WhAAAAMbulance Bronco fan is crying about a game lost wayy earlier in the season.
First time I head that come back I laughed so hard I kicked all the slats out of my Crib ...........

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Right on ...... Sounds like one hellva Project ........ Good luck with it

You're sounding down right friendly today...

What happened?

Did you caluclate that you could still make it to the playoffs even when you lose your last two games... or are you still high from your SB win against the paper tiger chiefs a couple of weeks ago.

When to the Ravens game last Sunday.... with a surprise ending....

[SJ Bronco]

You're sounding down right friendly today...

What happened?

Did you caluclate that you could still make it to the playoffs even when you lose your last two games... or are you still high from your SB win against the paper tiger chiefs a couple of weeks ago.

When to the Ravens game last Sunday.... with a surprise ending....

Aw, come on patch, we can't be nice to you now and then?

[SJ Bronco]

First time I head that come back I laughed so hard I kicked all the slats out of my Crib ...........

LMAO, isn't he a bit late for the party, we pretty much got tired of the arguing about an hour ago.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


You're sounding down right friendly today...

What happened?

Did you caluclate that you could still make it to the playoffs even when you lose your last two games... or are you still high from your SB win against the paper tiger chiefs a couple of weeks ago.

When to the Ravens game last Sunday.... with a surprise ending....
Naw I dont hold grudges ....... Save that for Next year when were dead even ......... ;D ....... Raiders beat the Ravens , that was a shocker , Believe it or Not I expected the Raiders to put up a good fight , I didnt expect them to win ;D



P.S. I loved the win over the Chiefs

[RukdaFaidas]

IMO, the reason the Chiefs _efense has been the fact that GR doesn't allow them to be aggressive. Defense is all about attitude and if they're not allowed to be aggressive, they're not going to have attitude. If you'll notice, when the Chiefs are in goalline or short yardage situations, they're good, because they're allowed to just go for the ball. It's between the 20's they suck, because they're too busy trying to play within GR's schemes. How Denver won 2 SB's with this clown I'll never know.

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


What are you building? Please tell me your a car guy like me, I need someone to geek off with about rebuilding. Im not into that import crap, I just like bringing dead cars back to life, its a rush.

Actually the shop is more geared to woodworking than cars.

[Spider]

Originally posted by SJ Bronco


LMAO, isn't he a bit late for the party, we pretty much got tired of the arguing about an hour ago.
Johnny come latley

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Naw I dont hold grudges ....... Save that for Next year when were dead even ......... ;D ....... Raiders beat the Ravens , that was a shocker , Believe it or Not I expected the Raiders to put up a good fight , I didnt expect them to win ;D



P.S. I loved the win over the Chiefs

A shocker is what it was....

They beat us in every stat but the scoreboard.

With 9 starters out it's a wonder we even put up 20 points.

The Ravens didn't really show me much this year..... I have no idea why you can't beat them.

[SJ Bronco]

Damn, worth a shot, I like the woodworking. the smell alone is worth it, but I can't say Im any good at it.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


Actually the shop is more geared to woodworking than cars.
Woodworking huh ....... Furniture or other ?

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


A shocker is what it was....

They beat us in every stat but the scoreboard.

With 9 starters out it's a wonder we even put up 20 points.

The Ravens didn't really show me much this year..... I have no idea why you can't beat them.
Mental I think ....... I think Mirer has found a home .. I cant wait to insult him Next year ;D

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Mental I think ....... I think Mirer has found a home .. I cant wait to insult him Next year ;D

Mirer is about what you would expect from a 3rd string QB...

He has done well because he has not made any mistakes... yet.

Too bad we did not get to see if Tui can cut it or not.

[Rock Chalk]

Tui might just be the Fade's answer to Griese.

Mirer looks better to me.

[R8er_H8er]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Hey tom, is that Assembly?


Numonics for a programmable logic controller. You can enter in numonics or in a graphic representation. I find the numonics faster if you know what you are building.

SOR BST XIC N41:47/0 NXB XIC T50:47/EN BND XIC N41:47/1 XIO N42:47/2 XIO N42:40/15 BST XIC I:001/1 NXB XIC N42:40/9 BND BST TON T50:47 1.0 5 5 NXB XIC T50:47/DN OTE O:010/6 BND EOR

SOR = Start of rung
BST = Branch start
XIC = examine if closed
NXB = next branch
BND = Branch end
XIO = examine if open
TON = Timer on (on delay timer)
EOR = End of rung

You can do math, compare, move, control, compute, etc. Pretty much fun if you are into industrial controls.

[Rohirrim]

So Patch, you think Brown and Rice can cut it for another year?

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Woodworking huh ....... Furniture or other ?

mostly furniture...

and some finished carpentary for the house.... and friends.

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Tui might just be the Fade's answer to Griese.

Mirer looks better to me.

Tui has the ability to make the first guy miss him and he is a playmaker.

A requirement for the QB's of today.

Mirer is not.

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by Rohirrim
So Patch, you think Brown and Rice can cut it for another year?

Nope... maybe Rice as a 3rd receiver.

they cannot get the seperation they need so that a QB does not have to make a perfect throw most of the time.

[Old Dude]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


...

The Ravens didn't really show me much this year..... I have no idea why you can't beat them.

We've actually only played them five times. Back when they were the Browns, we beat them about 75% of the time over 25 years.

Since they moved to Baltimore, we won the first game 45-34, in 1996.

In 2000, we lost to them in a playoff game in Baltimore, 21-3. Nothing mysterious about that one. We were down to our second string QB, and the Ravens - who had Shannon Sharpe - went on to win the Super Bowl.

In 2001, they'd lost a lot of their championship punch, but were still a decent defensive team, and we were once again ravaged with injuries - mostly to the offense. We lost 20-13.

Last year, we should have cleaned the floor with them. Instead, we turned in what was possibly the worst single performance by our special teams in history (and that's saying a lot) combined with total loss of composure and about a zillion yards in penalties. We finally got our act together after spotting them 30 points or so, but it was too late.

This year, Danny Kannell managed to avoid being a factor in the game until late in the 4th quarter when he basically threw it away.

[Rock Chalk]

Id agree playmakers are required in today's NFL.

Id disagree that Tui is one.

But hey, I dont watch a ton of Fade games either.

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Id agree playmakers are required in today's NFL.

Id disagree that Tui is one.

But hey, I dont watch a ton of Fade games either.

When watching what little I have of Tui in the pros, the thing that I have noticed he has the ability to make the first guy miss.

In college Tui was all about being a playmaker.

[Rock Chalk]

Well, I hope your wrong ;D

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by AlecRaenos
Well, I hope your wrong ;D

Of course you do....

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


mostly furniture...

and some finished carpentary for the house.... and friends.
Awesome . good skill to have ......

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Awesome . good skill to have ......

Woodworking for me is medicinal…(like ice cream) creating instant gratification.

[Spider]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


Woodworking for me is medicinal…(like ice cream) creating instant gratification.
Right on , I wish I had the skill to create somthing out of Nothing ...... But Have a good one I have a few things to do before I take my Kids to the opening of that new LOTR return of the King movie ..............

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by §Pide®

Right on , I wish I had the skill to create somthing out of Nothing ...... But Have a good one I have a few things to do before I take my Kids to the opening of that new LOTR return of the King movie ..............

Thanks spider... you are too kind.

Give some artistic endeavor a try... you might find you have a skill that you have not explored that is waiting to be tapped.

I'm taking my kids to LOTR on Friday....

Psssttt… they think it’s for them…. heheheheheh

[SouthStndJunkie]

Looks like the holiday cheer is running over here.....

Patch and Spider getting along....

Next thing you know the Bronco fans and Chiefs fans will all join hands and start singing Christmas Carols and complimenting each other on the strengths of our teams.

The right and left on this board will then come together in harmony. The left will compliment Bush and his fine foreign policy. The right in turn, will promise to stop driving gas guzzling SUV's and promise to give Howard Dean strong consideration in 2004 as well as to promise to rethink what Bill Clinton's lasting legacy will be past the BJ's.

Heck with that. Peace sells, but I am not buying.

SSJ

[Eye Patch]

JunkMan... you are one of a kind....

you do know you need help :-)

[Rock Chalk]

LOL

In the spirit of the holidays I will give these Californias an easy time.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Originally posted by Eye Patch
JunkMan... you are one of a kind....

you do know you need help :-)

Probably, but I like it this way.

Hope you and your family have a great holiday season.

SSJ

[SouthStndJunkie]

Crap, even I am being nice now.

SSJ

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie


Probably, but I like it this way.


SSJ


So do I.

Good luck on Sunday.... ur gonna need it... and a pass rush on Manning would help too.

[Priest Dante]

The Broncos simply aren't good enough to make the playoffs...sorry.

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie
Crap, even I am being nice now.

SSJ

You have must have visions of playoffs dancing in your head...

or you're coping a buzz right about now...

[SouthStndJunkie]

Originally posted by Eye Patch



So do I.

Good luck on Sunday.... ur gonna need it... and a pass rush on Manning would help too.

I do not like our matchup with the Colts at all at their place. I think we lose this game.

I do like how we match up with GB. I think they are overrated and think we can steal one at Lambeau.

SSJ

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by Priest Dante
The Broncos simply aren't good enough to make the playoffs...sorry.

I agree... but I just got caught up in all of this goodness running over here...

I apologize

[SouthStndJunkie]

Originally posted by Priest Dante
The Broncos simply aren't good enough to make the playoffs...sorry.

Good enough to make your team look stupid.

We put something on your as*, bele dat.

SSJ

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie


I do like how we match up with GB. I think they are overrated and think we can steal one at Lambeau.

SSJ

The Raiders will help you out with GB....

They will beat us so bad this Monday that they will become complacent and start thinking they're all that.

Don't say we never gave you nutin' Merry Xmas…

[SouthStndJunkie]

Originally posted by Eye Patch


The Raiders will help you out with GB....

They will beat us so bad that they will become complacent and start thinking they're all that.

Don't say we never gave you nutin' Merry Xmas…

Thanks. I bet you guys give them a fight though. GB is overrated. You may even beat them.

SSJ

[Eye Patch]

Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie


Thanks. I bet you guys give them a fight though. GB is overrated. You may even beat them.

SSJ

We have a ton of injuries

We have no run defense

We have no pass rush...

Favre will have all day...

Despite Woodson and Buchanon having good years they cannot cover their men that long.

Besides "IF" we do beat them.... their game with you will then have far more meaning...

Not a good thing when you have to travel to their house.

[SouthStndJunkie]

I think the game in GB can be won. I just do not like our matchup with Indi at their pad. Unless we collapse the pocket, Manning will pick us apart. I would rest CP unless he is close to 100%.

SSJ

[CHIEFS-FAN-TX]

Originally posted by Taco John
...This is all I want... A chance to right the wrongs of the last time we played and dominated them in their house, but walked away with a loss. I want to see us first and goal at the four again, and watch Portis pound it in... I want to see the refs call all the clips they see... I want to watch Dick crying on the sidelines as we trounce them by double digits. I want to see Portis take Holmes over his knee and give him the belt...

I just want to beat the Chiefs in their house in the playoffs...

They are the only team I have absolutely no fear of in the post season.

It's amazing how you can still make EXCUSES and bring up the clip and not even acknowledge all the HOLDING on the DONX and quick whistles this last time around. Funny and TYPICAL how that works! I'd love to face you guys again with a chance to shut you up for good! Revenge is SWEET and it will be extra SWEET with a DONKEY FLAVOR added. ;D

[Priest Dante]

Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie


Good enough to make your team look stupid.

We put something on your as*, bele dat.

SSJ

Yeah, Portis is a stud. He was made to make lackluster defenses look stupid. I guess The Broncos season wasn't a complete loss.

[errand]

Dan Pompei has the Chiefs listed as his most overrated team in the NFL......

He writes this to his colleague Vinnie Iyer (who says the Rams are) in this week's edition of The Sporting News on page 11:

In your search for the most overrated team in the NFL Vinnie, I have this advice for you....Go West, young man. You are in the right state, wrong city.

In Kansas City you can get great ribs, jazz, and Dante Hall kick returns. But you can search from the 18th & Vine district to Kansas Speedway and not find a run defense anywhere.

Sure, the Chiefs put points on the board like Tommy from the '70's rock opera. But, they can give them up in a hurry, too. The Chiefs have allowed opponents enough rushing yards to circle the planet at least 17 times. Only three teams have allowed more, and the Chiefs have surrendered more yards per carry than any team.

Timely takeaways have been the Chiefs' game. But, their defense hasn't shown the ability to prevent a capable opponent from moving the chains in critical situations.

The Chiefs aren't as imposing as their 12-2 record might lead you to believe. They are 3-2 against teams that currently have winning records, which means they have played alot of bad teams.

If you have any doubts about why you should doubt the Chiefs, I can set you up for a tour of their defense.

Your guide: Clinton Portis


What's was that noise...oh, never mind, it's just Portis scoring again.....

[Priest Dante]

Originally posted by errand
Dan Pompei has the Chiefs listed as his most overrated team in the NFL......

He writes this to his colleague Vinnie Iyer (who says the Rams are) in this week's edition of The Sporting News on page 11:

In your search for the most overrated team in the NFL Vinnie, I have this advice for you....Go West, young man. You are in the right stae, wrong city.

In Kansas City you can get great ribs, jazz, and Dante Hall kick returns. But you can search from the 18th & Vine district to Kansas Speedway and not find a run defense anywhere.

Sure, the Chiefs put points on the board like Tommy from the '70's rock opera. But, they can give them up in a hurry, too. The Chiefs have allowed opponents enough rushing yards to circle the planet at least 17 times. Only three teams have allowed more, and the Chiefs have surrendered more yards per carry than any team.

Timely takeaways have been the Chiefs' game. But, their defense hasn't shown the ability to prevent a capable opponent from moving the chains in critical situations.

The Chiefs aren't as imposing as their 12-2 record might lead you to believe. They are 3-2 against teams that currently have winning records, which means they have played alot of bad teams.

If you have any doubts about why you should doubt the Chiefs, I can set you up for a tour of their defense.

Your guide: Clinton Portis


What's was that noise...oh, never mind, it's just Portis scoring again.....

Yeah, The Chiefs defense is only good for 1 thing...turnovers.

[errand]

Turn overs help...when you get them, you can beat virtually anyone 45-17. Alas for you, when you don't...you get beat 45-27.

[SJ Bronco]

Both the chiefs and the raiders will help us this weekend. The fade will lose to GB adn the chefs will beat the queens, making the final game of the season a moot point for GB and they will rest Farve. ;D

[winstoncup bronco]

Originally posted by errand
Dan Pompei has the Chiefs listed as his most overrated team in the NFL......

He writes this to his colleague Vinnie Iyer (who says the Rams are) in this week's edition of The Sporting News on page 11:


The Chiefs aren't as imposing as their 12-2 record might lead you to believe. They are 3-2 against teams that currently have winning records, which means they have played alot of bad teams.


heh, and all I've heard from Chief fans is how we can't beat anyone good. Yeah, they've really dominated the better teams themselves this year. ::)

I'll say it once again, we will have played 5 of the 8 division leaders when everythig is said and done. I don't know if any other team can say that, but I'd like to know who it is if there is one.

[OrangeKnight]

sooo uh ya how about them there Chefs and you doubted the broncos??????????......... ok reality hit me a few times to but I know with the broncos (more so when Elway was at helm) NEVER SAY DIE and never look at the odds as a good indication Expeciallly when they are in our favor it seems but that is a whole new thread.

[bendog]

Unless they get the mother of all turnovers and Dante dominates special teams, I dont see how then can win in the playoffs .... unless a team like the Browns I leaves the pass game at home or Tenn decides George is totally crippled.

Gotta bring 8 up, and a decent playoff team feeds off of that.