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Bronx33
08-18-2009, 03:52 PM
Lawrence O'Donnell lies twice and grills this poor lady yes you will lose your healthcare eventually and yes Mr obama said that.
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peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:00 PM
Oh please! I saw that & you couldn't further from the truth. He was as you can see he very polite her & he didn't lie. It isn't O'Donnells fault this lady is a complete idiot. I
tnedator
08-18-2009, 04:01 PM
She is now getting email and phone threats. People are calling her house, her father's work, her cell. She is being hounded and threatened. Was she out of her element? Yes. Does she deserve to be harrassed and threatened? Hell no.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:10 PM
She is now getting email and phone threats. People are calling her house, her father's work, her cell. She is being hounded and threatened. Was she out of her element? Yes. Does she deserve to be harrassed and threatened? Hell no.So now that the right is getting a taste of there own medicine there is a problem?
broncofan7
08-18-2009, 04:16 PM
Oh please! I saw that & you couldn't further from the truth. He was as you can see he very polite her & he didn't lie. It isn't O'Donnells fault this lady is a complete idiot. I
SO he is just LESS informed than this airhead from the Hills of Pennsylvania?
IN BARRY'S OWN WORDS:
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Bronx33
08-18-2009, 04:16 PM
Oh please! I saw that & you couldn't further from the truth. He was as you can see he very polite her & he didn't lie. It isn't O'Donnells fault this lady is a complete idiot. I
You don't find it odd they had this lady on hardball? if you knew the ladies story you would understand her being just a bit nervous it was a shameless tactic, end of story.
tnedator
08-18-2009, 04:17 PM
So now that the right is getting a taste of there own medicine there is a problem?
You guys are all real quick to do the moral equivalency thing to defend Obama breaking campaign promises, or union thugs beating up peaceful demonstrators. That said, how is that "a taste of their own medicine?"
Bronx33
08-18-2009, 04:19 PM
So now that the right is getting a taste of there own medicine there is a problem?
We are talking about a young tax paying american getting envolved finally does she deserve death threats for asking questions? iam sure you could have done alot better being on national TV.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:23 PM
You don't find it odd they had this lady on hardball? if you knew the ladies story you would understand her being just a bit nervous it was a shameless tactic, end of story.She was on sean hannity as well, she wasn't forced at gun point to be on either show. She is someone who made a CHOICE to put herself/opinion out there to be critisized. If she can't take the heat,she shouldn't be in the kitchen.Personally I think O'Donnell was too soft on her.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:27 PM
We are talking about a young tax paying american getting envolved finally does she deserve death threats for asking questions? iam sure you could have done alot better being on national TV. There were death threats made against union members over this, the last I checked they are tax paying americans as well.
tnedator
08-18-2009, 04:28 PM
She was on sean hannity as well, she wasn't forced at gun point to be on either show. She is someone who made a CHOICE to put herself/opinion out there to be critisized. If she can't take the heat,she shouldn't be in the kitchen.Personally I think O'Donnell was too soft on her.
So, because someone speaks up at a town hall, then gets interviewed on a couple shows, she is now fair game for people to call her, harrass her and threaten her?
Did you actually read what you typed before hitting submit? Surely, you can't really believe that.
tnedator
08-18-2009, 04:29 PM
There were death threats made against union members over this, the last I checked they are tax paying americans as well.
Ok, which union people were threatened? The ones that beat up people at town hall meetings, or others? I haven't heard of any union members being threatened, only doing the threatening and harrassing.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:30 PM
death threats are wrong no matter what side they come from,but let's not come across as if it's only a problem when those on the right recieve them.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:34 PM
Ok, which union people were threatened? The ones that beat up people at town hall meetings, or others? I haven't heard of any union members being threatened, only doing the threatening and harrassing.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/obama-allied-unions-threa_n_254204.html
Here afl-cio members.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/08/north-carolina-lawmaker-gets-death-threat-health-reform/
A N. Carolina lawmaker gets a death threat.
Bronx33
08-18-2009, 04:36 PM
death threats are wrong no matter what side they come from,but let's not come across as if it's only a problem when those on the right recieve them.
Now admit O'donnel lied about obama not saying he didn't favor single payer and about losing ones healthcare ( he owes katey an apology) not very good journalism if you ask me and it's leading people on.
broncofan7
08-18-2009, 04:47 PM
SO he is just LESS informed than this airhead from the Hills of Pennsylvania?
IN BARRY'S OWN WORDS:
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This MSNBC TV hack lies to, is ill informed in questioning this Jane Doe on TV...it's par for the course for the left wing media.
tnedator
08-18-2009, 04:50 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/obama-allied-unions-threa_n_254204.html
Here afl-cio members.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/08/north-carolina-lawmaker-gets-death-threat-health-reform/
A N. Carolina lawmaker gets a death threat.
I don't condone death threats, explicit or implied. I understand people's outrage at the SEUI (or whatever the initials are) after some of their members attacked a man for handing out "don't tread on me" flags, which they called an "attack on America" and justification to beat him up.
And the Pipe fitters union in Tampa that got to choose who was allowed in the Town Hall meeting.
There is certainly reason to be outraged by the union member's behavior and the fact the Democratic senators and congressman used the union as enforcers/bouncers at the Town Hall meetings to beat up, throw out, quell and opposing viewpoints.
That said, I can't condone any threats.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 04:54 PM
Now admit O'donnel lied about obama not saying he didn't favor single payer and about losing ones healthcare ( he owes katey an apology) not very good journalism if you ask me and it's leading people on.O'Donnell is no journalist & I don't think he ever claimed to be. Now O'Donnell was never rude at any time during this interview. He owes no apology.
as far as whether he lied about O'Bama, whatever. I am a strong proponent of single payer & not just a public option due to it not going far enough.(but it is a step in the right direction.)
broncofan7
08-18-2009, 04:56 PM
O'Donnell is no journalist & I don't think he ever claimed to be. Now O'Donnell was never rude at any time during this interview. He owes no apology.
as far as whether he lied about O'Bama, whatever. I am a strong proponent of single payer & not just a public option due to it not going far enough.(but it is a step in the right direction.)
Look up 'Mortality rates' for different disease states between the US and Europe--then get back to me.
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 05:02 PM
Look up 'Mortality rates' for different disease states between the US and Europe--then get back to me.Europe is a continent not a country, be more specific.
Bronx33
08-18-2009, 05:06 PM
O'Donnell is no journalist & I don't think he ever claimed to be. Now O'Donnell was never rude at any time during this interview. He owes no apology.
as far as whether he lied about O'Bama, whatever. I am a strong proponent of single payer & not just a public option due to it not going far enough.(but it is a step in the right direction.)
whatever???? our president is a liar i really don't trust liars never have really i guess hope and change means (we hope hes telling the truth today)
peacepipe
08-18-2009, 05:14 PM
whatever???? our president is a liar i really don't trust liars never have really i guess hop and change means (we hope hes telling the truth today)
LOL , So now we go from O'Donnell being a liar to Obama being a liar. You know what, there's no point in us wasteing each others time.
Bronx33
08-18-2009, 05:18 PM
LOL , So now we go from O'Donnell being a liar to Obama being a liar. You know what, there's no point in us wasteing each others time.
My point is MSNBC is spouting the same lies obama is ( are ya with me yet?)
Rigs11
08-18-2009, 08:33 PM
Gawd what a moron that lady was. I bet you half of these so called patriots at these rallies don't have a damn clue what they are protesting.Then you have geniuses here on this board blaming that gosh darned liberal media for attacking these peaceful demonstrators.. When they're carrying assault rifles. Poor widdle protesters.Hilarious!
tnedator
08-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Gawd what a moron that lady was. I bet you half of these so called patriots at these rallies don't have a damn clue what they are protesting.Then you have geniuses here on this board blaming that gosh darned liberal media for attacking these peaceful demonstrators.. When they're carrying assault rifles. Poor widdle protesters.Hilarious!
As I posted in another thread, the guys carrying the assault rifles were Libertarians that were making a statement about gun rights and moving back and forth between the Obama supporters and those speaking out against his plan.
As to the media, they (MSM + CNN + MSNBC) were calling them angry, orchestrated mobs, long before the first assault rifle showed up in AZ.
Also, we have seen paid, bussed in Acorn workers, but where is the footage of the Republicans being bussed in?
Rigs11
08-18-2009, 09:21 PM
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watermock
08-18-2009, 10:03 PM
Impressive as the ambush laid out by MSNBC.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 12:19 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/country-back.jpg
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 12:20 AM
Quotes
"If you ever feel bad about Obama, there are two words you can say to feel better - Sarah Palin. That will make you feel better and realize how much worse it all could have been."
- Dennis Jett, Link (http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/23319)
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 05:17 AM
Quotes
"If you ever feel bad about Obama, there are two words you can say to feel better - Sarah Palin. That will make you feel better and realize how much worse it all could have been."
- Dennis Jett, Link (http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/23319)
Really? Did McCain pass away already? --Dennis Jett must give quite the 'REACH around'
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 05:24 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/country-back.jpg
Yes--those opposed to a single payer healthcare system are really looking for an outlet to display their racial prejudices...nice try you leftist hack........
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 05:53 AM
Yes--those opposed to a single payer healthcare system are really looking for an outlet to display their racial prejudices...nice try you leftist hack........
Where is health care even mentioned in the 'toon, dipsh*t?
Maybe you need to get your eyes checked?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 05:55 AM
Really? Did McCain pass away already?
How is that even relevant to the point? ???
--Dennis Jett must give quite the 'REACH around'
Oh?
You sound like a man of experience. :welcome:
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 06:16 AM
Where is health care even mentioned in the 'toon, dipsh*t?
Maybe you need to get your eyes checked?
Don't attempt to be cute---What event(s) has led to the DEMO-rats characterizing gatherings of American citizens as 'unruly, un-American mobs, etc.....--THE HEALTHCARE DEBATE
nice try.
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 06:19 AM
How is that even relevant to the point? ???
Oh?
You sound like a man of experience. :welcome:
You oblivious dolt:
Quotes
"If you ever feel bad about Obama, there are two words you can say to feel better - Sarah Palin. That will make you feel better and realize how much worse it all could have been."
- Dennis Jett, Link
NOW I ask you this--WHAT ROLE WAS SARAH PALIN TO TAKE IF THE RE-THUGS HAD WON THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER?--HERE'S AN EXERCISE for you
Obama : McCain as Biden :
a) PALIN
b) PALIN
c) PALIN
d) all of the above
Even you cannot get THIS wrong.........although that may be a REACH as well....I'm Sure MR Jett can GIVE YOU A HAND
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 06:24 AM
Don't attempt to be cute---What event(s) has led to the DEMO-rats characterizing gatherings of American citizens as 'unruly, un-American mobs, etc.....--THE HEALTHCARE DEBATE
nice try.
There is no reference - either explicit or implied - to the health care debate in the cartoon.
Like most right-wingnuts, either your comprehension game is really messed up and/or you're just seeing whatever you want to see.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 06:29 AM
You oblivious dolt:
Quotes
"If you ever feel bad about Obama, there are two words you can say to feel better - Sarah Palin. That will make you feel better and realize how much worse it all could have been."
- Dennis Jett, Link
NOW I ask you this--WHAT ROLE WAS SARAH PALIN TO TAKE IF THE RE-THUGS HAD WON THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER?--HERE'S AN EXERCISE for you
Obama : McCain as Biden :
a) PALIN
b) PALIN
c) PALIN
d) all of the above
Even you cannot get THIS wrong.........although that may be a REACH as well....I'm Sure MR Jett can GIVE YOU A HAND
Jeez, you're a drooling dullard. :oyvey:
The point is that the idea of Palin within a 1,000 mile radius of the WH - with even the remotest chance of Johnny prematurely buying the farm - is disturbing to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 06:33 AM
There is no reference - either explicit or implied - to the health care debate in the cartoon.
Like most right-wingnuts, either your comprehension game is really messed up and/or you're just seeing whatever you want to see.
For arguments sake(but we BOTH know the truth)--let's say you are correct--Do you even READ the threads that you post in? Go watch the video in post #1--now tell me what is the focus of the interview
My second question to you is this-- Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........You post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 06:35 AM
Jeez, you're a drooling dullard. :oyvey:
The point is that the idea of Palin within a 1,000 mile radius of the WH - with even the remotest chance of Johnny prematurely buying the farm - is disturbing to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
http://www.superherotimes.com/news/images/JLA.Ross.pm.af.all-01.jpg
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 06:37 AM
For arguments sake(but we BOTH know the truth)--let's say you are correct--Do you even READ the threads that you post in? Go watch the video in post #1--now tell me what is the focus of the interview
Nice try, but you're simply assuming that the 'toon I posted was somehow a reference to the OP.
You sound like a real black helicopter kind of guy. :giggle:
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 06:41 AM
Nice try, but you're simply assuming that the 'toon I posted was somehow a reference to the OP.
You sound like a real black helicopter kind of guy. :giggle:
You posts relay the intellect of a snubbed 2nd grade school girl who when told that Santa Claus didn't actually exist, insisted that everyone else was misguided and wrong.......
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 06:47 AM
You posts relay the intellect of a snubbed 2nd grade school girl who when told that Santa Claus didn't actually exist, insisted that everyone else was misguided and wrong.......
Your posts convey the willful ignorance of a right-wing rube who sees whatever he wants to to see - facts and evidence be damned - and who can't wrap his diminutive brain around the whole ambiguity thing.
Hell, even the video in the post you referenced in an attempt to shore up your bogus argument refers to more than just health care.
:rofl:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 06:56 AM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
We all predicted that an Obama presidency would make right-wing reactionaries like broncofan7 go into knee-jerk/"I'm a victim" mode.
But, as usual, the hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
Did anyone read that story about those right-wing nutjobs packing M-16s who showed up outside an Obama event in Arizona?
Could you imagine the outcry from the right had something like this happened at a Bush event?
Hell, odds are the guy would have gotten smoked by the secret service before he even got within five miles of wherever the court-appointed pinhead was speaking.
TailgateNut
08-19-2009, 06:58 AM
So, because someone speaks up at a town hall, then gets interviewed on a couple shows, she is now fair game for people to call her, harrass her and threaten her?
Did you actually read what you typed before hitting submit? Surely, you can't really believe that.
Once you open the door, people will "come in".
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 07:08 AM
Your posts convey the willful ignorance of a right-wing rube who sees whatever he wants to to see - facts and evidence be damned - and who can't wrap his diminutive brain around the whole ambiguity thing.
Hell, even the video in the post you referenced in an attempt to shore up your bogus argument refers to more than just health care.
:rofl:
The video I posted referenced Barry's ultimate goal of a single payor-a goal that the leftist hack on MSNBC either was unaware of or simply being dishonest about-but there it was--IN BARRY'S OWN'S WORDS-----you really need a psychological evaluation OR a dose modification of your lithium.....
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 07:10 AM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
We all predicted that an Obama presidency would make right-wing reactionaries like broncofan7 go into knee-jerk/"I'm a victim" mode.
But, as usual, the hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
Did anyone read that story about those right-wing nutjobs packing M-16s who showed up outside an Obama event in Arizona?
Could you imagine the outcry from the right had something like this happened at a Bush event?
Hell, odds are the guy would have gotten smoked by the secret service before he even got within five miles of wherever the court-appointed pinhead was speaking.
nice attempt to change the subject to generalities that are as certain to come from a left wing hack when they have nothing factual to argue about as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west........
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 07:12 AM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
We all predicted that an Obama presidency would make right-wing reactionaries like broncofan7 go into knee-jerk/"I'm a victim" mode.
But, as usual, the hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
Did anyone read that story about those right-wing nutjobs packing M-16s who showed up outside an Obama event in Arizona?
Could you imagine the outcry from the right had something like this happened at a Bush event?
Hell, odds are the guy would have gotten smoked by the secret service before he even got within five miles of wherever the court-appointed pinhead was speaking.
LA Broncos HACK--you never answered this:
My second question to you is this-- Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........You post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?
barryr
08-19-2009, 07:14 AM
The typical lefty response. Threaten and harass people when don't like what you hear. Yet always claim to be the "intelligent" ones. They hide that well.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 07:19 AM
The video I posted referenced Barry's ultimate goal of a single payor-a goal that the leftist hack on MSNBC either was unaware of or simply being dishonest about-but there it was--IN BARRY'S OWN'S WORDS-----you really need a psychological evaluation OR a dose modification of your lithium.....
You clearly need a crash course in basic reading comprehension.
Look at the video you are referencing.
The title is "Death panels, guns, health care, etc..."
So, as you can see, the topic is broader than what you are suggesting.
You simply knee-jerked when you saw the cartoon and cherry-picked your own meaning.
No wonder Bush was able to snooker so many simpletons like you. :rofl:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 07:22 AM
The typical lefty response. Threaten and harass people when don't like what you hear. Yet always claim to be the "intelligent" ones. They hide that well.
This from a bush blower?
Priceless! :rofl:
broncofan7
08-19-2009, 07:34 AM
You clearly need a crash course in basic reading comprehension.
Look at the video you are referencing.
The title is "Death panels, guns, health care, etc..."
So, as you can see, the topic is broader than what you are suggesting.
You simply knee-jerked when you saw the cartoon and cherry-picked your own meaning.
No wonder Bush was able to snooker so many simpletons like you. :rofl:
You combine arrogance with schizophrenia--you are destined to commit some type of epic crime--are you a serial killer? Do me a favor and watch VERY slowly--even rewind it if something escapes you(you know it will)--perhaps pop a Concerta prior to watching the video--posted below AGAIN for your educational enlightenment
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http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2512181&postcount=5
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-19-2009, 05:46 PM
You combine arrogance with schizophrenia--you are destined to commit some type of epic crime--are you a serial killer? Do me a favor and watch VERY slowly--even rewind it if something escapes you(you know it will)--perhaps pop a Concerta prior to watching the video--posted below AGAIN for your educational enlightenment
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http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2512181&postcount=5
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But that's not the video you originally referenced, i.e., the video in post #1.
You're as intellectually dishonest as you are dull.
In any event, it's amusing to watch you thrashing about trying to cover your tracks with progressively wilder ad hominems. Ha!
And all because you can't admit that a cartoon that was posted made no reference to health care.
epicSocialism4tw
08-19-2009, 06:25 PM
you oblivious dolt:
Quotes
"if you ever feel bad about obama, there are two words you can say to feel better - sarah palin. That will make you feel better and realize how much worse it all could have been."
- dennis jett, link
now i ask you this--what role was sarah palin to take if the re-thugs had won the election in november?--here's an exercise for you
obama : Mccain as biden :
A) palin
b) palin
c) palin
d) all of the above
:spit:
Spider
08-19-2009, 08:14 PM
whatever???? our president is a liar i really don't trust liars never have really i guess hope and change means (we hope hes telling the truth today)
I was going to stay out of this until I saw this gem .......... you really should think before you post , you supported Bush through thick and thin , and not just about Iraq ..........
Spider
08-19-2009, 08:18 PM
LOL , should have seen the talk I had with a hard core right winger today .... He actually claimed Obama doesnt want ot capture Bin Laden .... I said what about Bush ?
He said Bush never knew where Bin Laden was or he would have got him ....
I asked if he had been drug tested .... He gave me a funny look , Then I said , look Numbnuts , They knew where Bin laden was a few years ago , Place called Tora Bora , Then he said , well it is easier to blame Obama .... I then politely as I could said , you are a ****head , I suggest you get out of my sight before I put you in a hurt locker , you clearly put party before country , and I consider that to be treason , so move along , before I go to jail ......He took me serious , didnt utter another word ....
bcbronc
08-20-2009, 12:42 AM
Now admit O'donnel lied about obama not saying he didn't favor single payer and about losing ones healthcare ( he owes katey an apology) not very good journalism if you ask me and it's leading people on.
in fairness, O'donnell did specify Obama never said it "as President". when she said it was a few years ago he conceded Obama may have said it.
over all he was pretty gentle with her. bullied her a little bit in the middle of the interview, but allowed her to say her piece without interrupting. more than O'Reilly would have done anyway.
as for that lefty media bias myth:
The Houston Chronicle editorial page wanted to be absolutely clear: References to Adolf Hitler or Nazis in American politics had no place in the "discourse of the nation," and the crude analogies were "beyond the pale." The practice was "absurd and dangerous."
The editorial page was disgusted by the rhetoric and firmly believed that dredging up the Nazi comparisons desensitized people to the pain and violence that actual Nazis unleashed in the 20th century.
The condemnation was fitting, given the fact that the country's most-listened-to talk radio host, Rush Limbaugh, last week unfurled shocking rhetoric in which he compared the Obama White House to a Nazi organization and even likened Obama to Hitler. ("Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate.") The outlandish attacks seemed to be a case of Limbaugh playing catch-up to Fox News' Glenn Beck (Limbaugh = Beck Lite?), who had been pounding the noxious Nazi angle for weeks.
Of course it's depressing to watch Limbaugh drive politics into the gutter, but at least watchdogs at big-city dailies like the Houston Chronicle are calling out the really reprehensible stuff, right?
I wish.
Because here's the catch: That Chronicle editorial I mentioned above wasn't in response to Limbaugh's latest misguided hate maneuver. The scathing editorial was published on January 7, 2004, and came in response to news that two videos submitted to a MoveOn.org advertisement contest had included Hitler imagery in their 30-second attacks on President Bush. (They were just two of the 1,500 clips submitted.) MoveOn never endorsed the efforts or promoted them; the clips simply appeared on MoveOn's crowded contest website. But when news spread about their mere existence, a controversy erupted, and the liberal netroots group quickly pulled the ads, apologized for their inclusion, and denounced the use of Nazi imagery.
Despite that swift action, the Hitler-MoveOn story, fueled by Fox News (see Glenn Greenwald), became a very big deal and gobbled up days' worth of news coverage, coverage that often stressed how unrestrained and irresponsible the liberal blogosphere was (Hitler?!), to the point where the Chronicle weighed in with a stand-alone editorial on the topic.
But fast-forward to today. As Limbaugh envelops himself in Nazi rhetoric, for some reason, the Houston Chronicle's editorial page, along with so many other corporate news outlets, remains silent about the offensive Hitler comparisons. Despite the fact that Limbaugh has not apologized for his comments -- unlike MoveOn in 2004 -- and is continuing to compare the Obama White House and the Democratic Party with Nazis, many in the media don't consider it newsworthy and haven't condemned it. And more important, journalists don't show any signs of believing that the episode tells us anything about the radically unhinged nature of the right-wing media in this country today. That story's just a non-starter. Period.
[. . . ]
Of course, just days after the profile appeared on newsstands, Savage hosted an interview with a delusional leader of the birther movement, and together they hatched a plan to unleash even more mini-mobs to ransack town hall forums and drive the birther message, all in hopes of forcing the president out of office. (Was that the "fun" The New Yorker had in mind when it toasted Savage in its pages?)
Because the corporate press has ignored the simmering hate wave on the right and let pass almost without comment the kind of outbursts that, if ever were to appear on liberal websites, would be denounced around the clock by media elites, it's not surprising that Limbaugh pretty much gets a pass for his Nazi crusade. (Do I even have to mention that the conservative press has been almost comically hypocritical about the Nazi issue? In other words, Bush + Hitler = bad. Obama + Hitler = crickets.)
Want some concrete proof that the press has treated this media Nazi story differently than the Hitler-MoveOn kerfuffle in 2004? Consider the fact that The Indianapolis Star published letters to the editor about the Hitler-MoveOn story on January 7, 9, 10, 11, and 19 back in 2004. To date, however, not a single word has been published on that same Star page about Limbaugh's creeping Nazi obsession.
Here's a list of big-city newspapers that covered the story in January of 2004, according to Nexis (and the number of separate articles, columns, or letters that referenced the story):
Indianapolis Star (5)
The New York Sun (5)
The Washington Times (5)
The Kansas City Star (3)
The New York Times (3)
News & Record of Greensboro, North Carolina (3)
San Antonio Express-News (3)
Minneapolis Star Tribune (3)
The Boston Globe (2)
New York Daily News (2)
Houston Chronicle (2)
New York Post (2)
The Arizona Republic (1)
Boston Herald (1)
The Denver Post (1)
Hartford Courant (1)
Los Angeles Times (1)
The Modesto Bee (1)
San Francisco Chronicle (1)
The Seattle Times (1)
St. Petersburg Times (1)
Rocky Mountain News (1)
Cleveland Plain Dealer (1)
Washington Post (1)
Newsday (1)
Richmond Times Dispatch (1)
Atlantic Journal-Constitution (1)
Orange County Register (1 )
Total big-city newspaper mentions: 54.
To date, here's the complete list of big-city newspapers that have covered the Limbaugh-Nazi story:
The Boston Globe (1)
The New York Times (1)
New York Daily News (1)
Denver Post (1)
Las Vegas Review-Journal (1)
Boston Herald (1)
Total big-city newspaper mentions: 6.
Television? According to a transcript search of Nexis, in January 2005, CNN gave the Hitler-MoveOn story three times more attention than it has to the current Limbaugh-Nazi controversy.
Looking back, maybe MoveOn should have just done what Limbaugh did and refused to apologize, instead embracing the Nazi nonsense. Because I'm sure if the liberal group had done that, I'm sure if MoveOn had pounded the Bush-is-a-Nazi angle for days and days, then journalists would have turned away quickly, just as so many have in response to Limbaugh's hateful Nazi rhetoric. Right?
http://www.alternet.org/media/141911/rush_limbaugh's_"nazi"_rhetoric:_where's_the_outrage/?page=3
broncofan7
08-20-2009, 06:07 AM
But that's not the video you originally referenced, i.e., the video in post #1.
You're as intellectually dishonest as you are dull.
In any event, it's amusing to watch you thrashing about trying to cover your tracks with progressively wilder ad hominems. Ha!
And all because you can't admit that a cartoon that was posted made no reference to health care.
Your FOLLY has risen to an obscene level
http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2512181&postcount=5
WTF was THIS POST(link) IN RESPONSE TOO? ANSWER THAT.You are a sorry sack of humanity......
from a previous post: Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........You post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?
Spider
08-20-2009, 06:40 PM
Your FOLLY has risen to an obscene level
http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2512181&postcount=5
WTF was THIS POST(link) IN RESPONSE TOO? ANSWER THAT.You are a sorry sack of humanity......
from a previous post: Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........You post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?Healthcare reform is just another classic exampl of the Black man ( Obama ) trying to keep the white man down
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-20-2009, 10:56 PM
Your FOLLY has risen to an obscene level
http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2512181&postcount=5
WTF was THIS POST(link) IN RESPONSE TOO? ANSWER THAT.You are a sorry sack of humanity......
from a previous post: Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........You post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?
Good God, you can't even obfuscate issues effectively. :oyvey:
I thought that was a prerequisite for all right-wing handjobs like you? ???
You are a walking vindication of that old adage about never arguing with an idiot because he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Ha!
broncofan7
08-21-2009, 05:27 AM
Good God, you can't even obfuscate issues effectively. :oyvey:
I thought that was a prerequisite for all right-wing handjobs like you? ???
You are a walking vindication of that old adage about never arguing with an idiot because he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Ha!
As fully expected--the curtain is pulled away from your posting FAIL and your folly is exposed for all to see--that is unless you are a schizophrenic arrogant pig who is unwilling to admit his error on an internet message board--your 'logic' is so misguided that I am afraid that you would argue against Fire being hot and Water being wet if I were to write that here.....
I ask this again:
Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........Your post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-21-2009, 06:17 PM
As fully expected--the curtain is pulled away from your posting FAIL and your folly is exposed for all to see--that is unless you are a schizophrenic arrogant pig who is unwilling to admit his error on an internet message board--your 'logic' is so misguided that I am afraid that you would argue against Fire being hot and Water being wet if I were to write that here.....
I ask this again:
Why would you post something that supposedly had no reference to the HC debate when in fact--the focus of this thread is a left wing hack (is he related to you?) who is either willing to lie to spread his agenda--or is less informed than this Jane Doe he is interviewing on the subject of Barry and his plans for our HC system.........Your post is either irrelevant (and that seems to be what you are arguing for) or clearly a misguided attempt to color health care reform dissenters as racists.......Which is it?
Holy crap!
Your comprehension troubles are worse than I thought.
Let me try to go slower:
The...video...in...the...OP...talked...about...mor e...than...just...health...care.
Did that get through?
In any event, it's fun to watch right-wingnuts like you foam at the pie hole over a simple cartoon that pokes fun at your party's base. Ha!
DBruleU
08-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Holy crap!
Your comprehension troubles are worse than I thought.
Let me try to go slower:
The...video...in...the...OP...talked...about...mor e...than...just...health...care.
Did that get through?
In any event, it's fun to watch right-wingnuts like you foam at the pie hole over a simple cartoon that pokes fun at your party's base. Ha!
Damn, you're back in full force.
Did the DNC summon all their former campaign workers to flood internet message boards over the town hall protests? They must be worried.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
08-21-2009, 11:42 PM
Damn, you're back in full force.
Whereas you're back in full farce. Ha!
Did the DNC summon all their former campaign workers to flood internet message boards over the town hall protests? They must be worried.
I imagine an awful lot of Americans must look like DNC campaign workers to you and your fellow inhabitants of what's left of red state America these days. LOL
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 06:53 AM
Holy crap!
Your comprehension troubles are worse than I thought.
Let me try to go slower:
The...video...in...the...OP...talked...about...mor e...than...just...health...care.
Did that get through?
In any event, it's fun to watch right-wingnuts like you foam at the pie hole over a simple cartoon that pokes fun at your party's base. Ha!
Nice try. You are so blinded by your left wing fanaticism that you are attempting to make the argument that the MAIN FOCUS of the MSNBC interview in post 1 of this thread was in fact NOT healthcare--when in fact the very focus of the poster making this thread is pointing out how the MSNBC hack LIED to the Jane Doe being interviewed regarding Obama's ultimate plan for HC reform. The video I posted PROVED that he lied to the Jane Doe--you would of course deny this DESPITE hearing YOUR leader in his OWN WORDS.
Go see you psychiatrist pronto you pathological liar....anyone with 2 functioning synapses can see right through you partisan rhetoric--you are so full of denial it is mind boggling
As a side note:
If universal HC passes--I wish Prostate Cancer upon you and any other male who supports it--for your enjoyment--go look up mortality rates in England vs that of males in the US
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 07:07 AM
I imagine an awful lot of Americans must look like DNC campaign workers
Judging by your posts, IMAGINING is the only thing you do well.........
Spider
08-22-2009, 07:20 AM
As a side note:
If universal HC passes--I wish Prostate Cancer upon you and any other male who supports it--for your enjoyment--go look up mortality rates in England vs that of males in the US
That is over the top you silly bastard ............thats ****ing low
Mr.Meanie
08-22-2009, 11:56 AM
go look up mortality rates in England vs that of males in the US
I was curious and looked up life expectancy rates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Japan - 3
Canada - 8
Switzerland - 11
Italy - 19
UK - 36
Portugal - 48
USA -50
Interesting
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 12:09 PM
That is over the top you silly bastard ............thats ****ing low
GO f u c k a goat you illiterate swine.......
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 12:12 PM
I was curious and looked up life expectancy rates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Japan - 3
Canada - 8
Switzerland - 11
Italy - 19
UK - 36
Portugal - 48
USA -50
Interesting
Yes it is--Diet, more vacation, shorter work weeks--these are all some of the variables that come into play in some instances or another---Did you by chance view the mortality rates of prostate cancer for males and breast cancer for females in England Versus the US? that is INTERESTING as well.........
Spider
08-22-2009, 12:18 PM
GO * * * * a goat you illiterate swine.......
you got a big mouth ......... But chances are you would piss all over yourself if you saw me monday in Ardmore Oklahoma
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 12:39 PM
you got a big mouth ......... But chances are you would piss all over yourself if you saw me monday in Ardmore Oklahoma
And I've got big arms and big balls too--and I'd rest them right on your chin--you fat, overweight, illiterate puke.........
Spider
08-22-2009, 01:05 PM
And I've got big arms and big balls too--and I'd rest them right on your chin--you fat, overweight, illiterate puke.........
ok , then , there is a truckstop in Thackerville mile Post 1 ,called Thackerville travel plaza or there a Valro in Marietta Mil post 15 ....... What one works best for you ?
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 01:09 PM
ok , then , there is a truckstop in Thackerville mile Post 1 ,called Thackerville travel plaza or there a Valro in Marietta Mil post 15 ....... What one works best for you ?
Hey, internet message board tough guy----I actually hope you die in a trucking accident instead of via prostate cancer--how many people have you challenged to a fight on this board? and why is that? Because you have accomplished nothing in life and have nothing to lose..........one day spider, one day.......
Spider
08-22-2009, 01:10 PM
Hey, internet message board tough guy----I actually hope you die in a trucking accident instead of via prostate cancer--how many people have you challenged to a fight on this board? and why is that? Because you have accomplished nothing in life and have nothing to lose..........one day spider, one day.......
One day can be monday tough guy with big arms
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 01:12 PM
One day can be monday tough guy with big arms
Careful boy.......
Spider
08-22-2009, 01:15 PM
Careful boy.......
well you know where I will be ..... be looking forward to seeing you .........Thackerville would be a better place .........
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 01:18 PM
well you know where I will be ..... be looking forward to seeing you .........Thackerville would be a better place .........
Why is that? You have your burial plot near there :rofl:
Spider
08-22-2009, 01:21 PM
Why is that? You have your burial plot near there :rofl:
hell if it is my time , then I am not worried about it . if I loos I loose , but I always back my mouth up ............
Spider
08-22-2009, 01:26 PM
Hell I am still waiting for 2 guys in a white escalade to come finish what they started in Houston ....... they wanted to fight , so I pulled over , then they changed their minds and said they was going to go get a gun and blow my head off , I told them i will be at the T/A in Baytown TX ........ exit 789 off of I 10 .....still havent seen em
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 01:34 PM
said they was going to go get a gun and blow my head off , I told them i will be at the T/A in Baytown TX ........ exit 789 off of I 10 .....still havent seen em
That's too bad- :welcome:
epicSocialism4tw
08-22-2009, 03:57 PM
hell if it is my time , then I am not worried about it . if I loos I loose , but I always back my mouth up ............
Don't you have kids and a wife?
Wouldnt you think it to be irresponsible and stupid to put your fatherhood at risk over some ridiculous message board argument?
Spider
08-22-2009, 04:13 PM
Don't you have kids and a wife?
Wouldnt you think it to be irresponsible and stupid to put your fatherhood at risk over some ridiculous message board argument?
**** you ....... I didnt ask your opinion .........
epicSocialism4tw
08-22-2009, 05:51 PM
**** you ....... I didnt ask your opinion .........
Get a grip, fella.
There's more to life than unhindered bragadocio. Besides, I have heard that you dont show up for your "appointments" anyhow. Hilarious!
Spider
08-22-2009, 05:58 PM
Get a grip, fella.
There's more to life than unhindered bragadocio. Besides, I have heard that you dont show up for your "appointments" anyhow. Hilarious!
LOL , whatever ...........
broncofan7
08-22-2009, 06:02 PM
Get a grip, fella.
There's more to life than unhindered bragadocio. Besides, I have heard that you dont show up for your "appointments" anyhow. Hilarious!
BUSTED! Hilarious!
Spider
08-22-2009, 06:05 PM
BUSTED! Hilarious!
LOL . thats right ......So I can expect you Monday ?
Spider
08-22-2009, 06:05 PM
Oh and ask Drama Lama why he wouldnt meet me ...:rofl:
Spider
08-22-2009, 06:10 PM
sure did get quiet
epicSocialism4tw
08-22-2009, 06:17 PM
Oh and ask Drama Lama why he wouldnt meet me ...
Because no heterosexual male ever wants to set up dates at a truckstop with a trucker. :rofl:
We all have heard what you guys do in those places. I'm not at all interested in meeting you, Spider.
Spider
08-22-2009, 06:21 PM
Because no heterosexual male ever wants to set up dates at a truckstop with a trucker. :rofl:
We all have heard what you guys do in those places. I'm not at all interested in meeting you, Spider.
thought so ...........
epicSocialism4tw
08-22-2009, 06:26 PM
thought so ...........
http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/119733-fanboy-friday-/InternetToughGuy_2-468x.jpg
Spider
08-22-2009, 06:30 PM
http://poligraphic.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/republican-pedophile5.gif
epicSocialism4tw
08-22-2009, 06:38 PM
this image was spider's lame attempt at a come-back for pointing out his free use of the pedophilic term "Kiddy dipping" on another thread
Hilarious!
Spider
08-22-2009, 06:43 PM
Hilarious!
Hey dont you work with kids ?
hmmmmmmmmm