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Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 10:12 PM
Preseason, Week 1:

Orton - 3 picks
Cassel - 0 picks

Winner: Cassel

BMarsh615
08-15-2009, 10:17 PM
Cassel only threw 5 passes.

Really shows how much confidence Haley has in him.Hilarious!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 10:17 PM
Cassel only threw 5 passes.

Really shows how much confidence Haley has in him.Hilarious!

It's preseason, dumb****. We were calling a high school offense tonight.

UberBroncoMan
08-15-2009, 10:19 PM
It's preseason, dumb****. We were calling a high school offense tonight.

When why are you having a vs thread before the actual season then Bob?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 10:21 PM
When why are you having a vs thread before the actual season then Bob?

Why not? Orton looked like ****.

BMarsh615
08-15-2009, 10:22 PM
Why not? Orton looked like ****.

R2P2 is back BOOB:rofl:

Killericon
08-15-2009, 10:23 PM
Cassel: $63 million($28 million guaranteed) over six years left.

Orton: $995,000 over one year left.

Winner: Orton.

OABB
08-15-2009, 10:23 PM
Thank god. I was worried about Oton this year, but whenever Bob does these threads it ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS blows up in his face. Orton will have a stellar year now...


hey guys, remember the Croyle vs. Cutler one? good times.

oh, and **** you you fat pile of schmegma.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 10:24 PM
It certainly blew up in my face with Travis Henry you dumb mother****er.

Popps
08-15-2009, 10:25 PM
Bob tries this every year, with about every 2 players he can think of. It only ends up in him being the butt of the joke.

Stay tuned.

(Jae)
08-15-2009, 10:25 PM
Cassel: $63 million($28 million guaranteed) over six years left.

Orton: $995,000 over one year left.

Winner: BRONCOS.



fixed.

Killericon
08-15-2009, 10:26 PM
fixed.

Good call.

SoCalBronco
08-15-2009, 10:32 PM
Not a battle we're going to win, unfortunately.

But....despite being clearly superior, Cassel doesn't have anywhere near the weapons or protection that Orton has. Maybe that will balance it out........course, those weapons (sans Marshall) and protection weren't able to cover up Orton's ****ups last night. Maybe he can make some progress over time, though. He's got the game manager role down fairly well, he's gotta be able to finish that last lap of the race, though and be able to cash it in.

DenverBrit
08-15-2009, 10:38 PM
Cassel: $63 million($28 million guaranteed) over six years left.

Orton: $995,000 over one year left.

Winner: Orton.

Based on the contract, Cassel is vastly more valuable to KC than Orton is to Denver.

There needs to be a 'handicap'....other than having the resident Boob as a fan.

As Cassel is guaranteed about 28X Orton's salary, he should be held to a much higher standard.

Cassel spots Orton 12 touchdowns and 8 INTs this year, not counting pre season games and Boob leaves the country and looks for a personality.

Sounds about right. 8')

ORANGEJARHEAD
08-15-2009, 10:41 PM
Cassel sux too...another bad chiefs decision, just like herm edwards, trading neil smith to denver, carl peterson....like i have said many times before, k.c. spleefs, re-building since 1970. oh yeah larry johnson sux too

BroncoDoug
08-15-2009, 10:44 PM
It's preseason, dumb****. We were calling a high school offense tonight.

So by your own admission, its preseason dumb****... So what Orton does vs Cassel is OFFICIAL? And because Orton threw some picks and KC was running a high school offense Cassel wins again? Cassel must be playing in some different league I guess?

Florida_Bronco
08-15-2009, 10:48 PM
It's preseason, dumb****. We were calling a high school offense tonight.

Haley - Calls dumbed down offense to protect his QB.

McDaniels - Goes balls out to find his QB's limits.

Winner: McDaniels.

prunch
08-15-2009, 10:52 PM
Dude Cassel threw for 15 yards or something ..... you ain't got much foundation for starting a thread like this.

Your team sucks too .... you ain't qualified to troll. Come back when your team isn't cr@p.

Thanks for dropping by though.

Dukes
08-15-2009, 10:54 PM
Arent you 0-5 at these Chef losers vs Bronco threads bob? This thread does not bode well for Cassell.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 10:55 PM
Haley - Calls dumbed down offense to protect his QB.

McDaniels - Goes balls out to find his QB's limits.

Winner: McDaniels.

Oh please.

The offense wasn't dumbed down to protect Cassel. I don't know why they were running a high school offense out there. But it's safe to say we won't be running on first and second down and throwing slants on third down when the season opens. Get a clue.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 10:56 PM
Bob tries this every year, with about every 2 players he can think of. It only ends up in him being the butt of the joke.

Stay tuned.

The Slowshown Moron-o vs LJ thread is in the archives. Ready to be bumped.

Florida_Bronco
08-15-2009, 10:57 PM
I don't know why they were running a high school offense out there. That's a shocker.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 11:01 PM
That's a shocker.

Oh shut the **** up. Not every team runs a high school offense in preseason. I'm sure Haley had his reasons. You, me, nobody outside Arrowhead has a clue why right now.

Florida_Bronco
08-15-2009, 11:04 PM
Oh shut the **** up. Not every team runs a high school offense in preseason. I'm sure Haley had his reasons. You, me, nobody outside Arrowhead has a clue why right now.

Well at least you matured. A few short years ago you would have just outright lied about some bull**** inside info. Guess me exposing your bull**** on CrapPlanet put an end to that, eh Bobo?

Dudeskey
08-15-2009, 11:06 PM
It's preseason, dumb****. We were calling a high school offense tonight.

I wasn't aware the wing t was used in the NFL...ô

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 11:09 PM
Well at least you matured. A few short years ago you would have just outright lied about some bull**** inside info. Guess me exposing your bull**** on CrapPlanet put an end to that, eh Bobo?

Keep tooting your own horn. Does you a lot of good around here.

Williams
08-15-2009, 11:11 PM
Chris Baker (2009 UDFA) - 1 Sack
Glenn Dorsey (2008 #5 overall pick) - Too fat to play

Winner: Baker

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Dorsey and Baker don't even play the same position numbnuts.

Williams
08-15-2009, 11:19 PM
Ask me how many f*cks I give. The point is you blew a #5 on a doughnut eating Bob clone.

Too bad about that.

prunch
08-15-2009, 11:31 PM
The Slowshown Moron-o vs LJ thread is in the archives. Ready to be bumped.


Knowshon vs. LJ

... dude you have no O-Line ... why would you even dare bring that up? Stick with the QBs, you're odds are better.

Killericon
08-15-2009, 11:38 PM
I remember back when at least Bob ACTED like our ragging on him didn't get to him.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 11:53 PM
I remember back when at least Bob ACTED like our ragging on him didn't get to him.

Nothing you say can change this fact:

http://americansportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/broncos-quarterback-kyle-orton-and-the-teams-coach-josh-mcdaniels-h.jpg

Hercules Rockefeller
08-16-2009, 01:37 AM
The Slowshown Moron-o vs LJ thread is in the archives. Ready to be bumped.

How about Clady vs. Albert? Still got that one ready to go?

Broncos4Life
08-16-2009, 02:52 AM
How about Clady vs. Albert? Still got that one ready to go?

****! This thread could go on forever. At least the other Boob threads were started right before the season. A little premature don't ya think Boob.
Oh, and I found your youtube video from a few years ago:
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Florida_Bronco
08-16-2009, 03:14 AM
How about Clady vs. Albert? Still got that one ready to go?

Didn't he already do that one last year? Maybe he should just dust off that epic failure of a thread and save himself the trouble.

broncogary
08-16-2009, 06:51 AM
It certainly blew up in my face with Travis Henry you dumb mother****er.

The only time Travis Henry ever had sex without producing a child. :rofl:

ohiobronco2
08-16-2009, 07:55 AM
Bob living a healthier lifestyle.

Winner: Bob.


Losers: Androgynous females with daddy issues, local area restaurants that he single handedly kept afloat, local retailers that sold maternity pants and the man pictured below.

DenverBrit
08-16-2009, 08:48 AM
For those who didn't get to see KC's savior play.


Cassel worked the offense for four possessions, but was able to complete just two of five passes for 15 yards. A dozen of those yards came on his first pass as the K.C. franchise quarterback;

Hereís how those four possessions Cassel directed went down for the Chiefs offense:

1.Six plays for 24 yards, but failed to convert a 3rd-and-3 play.
2.Three plays for seven yards, with a 3rd-and-11 pass gaining three yards.
3.Three plays for nine yards, as a 3rd-and-1 pass to TE Sean Ryan was dropped.
4.Three plays for seven yards, with Cassel losing a snap from C Rudy Niswanger that was recovered by the Texans.

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/an-ugly-start-for-the-new-regime.html#more-9962

Steve Sewell
08-16-2009, 12:21 PM
It's preseason, dumb****. We were calling a high school offense tonight.

Oh the irony.

broncswin
08-16-2009, 12:23 PM
For those who didn't get to see KC's savior play.






http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/an-ugly-start-for-the-new-regime.html#more-9962

wow!! Yea for Cassel Bobo, sounds like he had one of the better games in the last ten years or so for KC...:rofl::rofl:

Steve Sewell
08-16-2009, 12:29 PM
Nothing you say can change this fact:

http://americansportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/broncos-quarterback-kyle-orton-and-the-teams-coach-josh-mcdaniels-h.jpg

Ha that's funny.

Haley should send love letters to Larry Fitzgerald, Boldin and Kurt Warner every day for carrying him to a head coaching job. It's too bad for him that the Chiefs have no one of that caliber on their roster...it's gonna be a LONG year.

On the other hand McDaniels took a craptastic QB and won 11 games last year in a very competitive division (unlike the NFC West). He now has another very average QB with a ton of offensive weapons.

Wendler, you're retarded.

Tombstone RJ
08-16-2009, 12:42 PM
For those who didn't get to see KC's savior play.






http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/an-ugly-start-for-the-new-regime.html#more-9962

Wow, that pretty much sucks.

UberBroncoMan
08-16-2009, 02:12 PM
For those who didn't get to see KC's savior play.






http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/an-ugly-start-for-the-new-regime.html#more-9962

Even the other Kansas City Bobs are against this one.

azbroncfan
10-16-2009, 08:11 PM
Does it even need to be said who is playing better?

Killericon
10-16-2009, 08:14 PM
Nothing you say can change this fact:

http://americansportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/broncos-quarterback-kyle-orton-and-the-teams-coach-josh-mcdaniels-h.jpg

Man, this is the best post ever.

GreatBronco16
10-16-2009, 08:18 PM
Not a battle we're going to win, unfortunately.

But....despite being clearly superior, Cassel doesn't have anywhere near the weapons or protection that Orton has. Maybe that will balance it out........course, those weapons (sans Marshall) and protection weren't able to cover up Orton's ****ups last night. Maybe he can make some progress over time, though. He's got the game manager role down fairly well, he's gotta be able to finish that last lap of the race, though and be able to cash it in.


No wonder you don't come around anymore. Still can't get that taste out of your mouth can you?

azbroncfan
10-16-2009, 08:19 PM
When why are you having a vs thread before the actual season then Bob?

Because Bob knows nothing about football and his vast knowledge shows that he never played football and only can spit stats. Bob is the new fantasy football age of fans.

Lev Vyvanse
10-16-2009, 08:23 PM
No wonder you don't come around anymore. Still can't get that taste out of your mouth can you?

Calling out someone that doesnít even post here anymore. Do you feel better?

Bronco Boy
10-16-2009, 08:33 PM
Kyle also gets way more action from the ladies, at least according to his twitter.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-16-2009, 09:51 PM
Does it even need to be said who is playing better?

TOUCHDOWN PERCENTAGE

Matt Cassel: 5.4
Kyle Orton: 4.2

WINNER: Matt Cassel

BroncoInSkinland
10-16-2009, 09:56 PM
TOUCHDOWN PERCENTAGE

Matt Cassel: 5.4
Kyle Orton: 4.2

WINNER: Matt Cassel

LOL, I feel kinda dirty quoting Bob, but stupidity of this kind should be shared even with those that have him on ignore. Bob is the Jar-Jar of the mane, useless, and so annoying that his creator wishes he could undo the mistake. Keep trying to bail out that Chiefs rowboat Bob, it is already sitting on the bottom.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-16-2009, 09:59 PM
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

Matt Cassel: 63
Kyle Orton: 5 or 6

Winner: MATT CASSEL

BroncoInSkinland
10-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Loser: The Chiefs front office

BroncoMan4ever
10-16-2009, 11:24 PM
Preseason, Week 1:

Orton - 3 picks
Cassel - 0 picks

Winner: Cassel

you do realize with your history of these Versus threads you make, that you have literally just made it destiny that Orton becomes an elite QB in the league and Cassel becomes the highest paid backup within the next 3 years

BroncoMan4ever
10-16-2009, 11:27 PM
TOUCHDOWN PERCENTAGE

Matt Cassel: 5.4
Kyle Orton: 4.2

WINNER: Matt Cassel

Orton 5-0
Cassel 0-5 and trying to hold off Croyle from stealing his job

WINNER: Orton
LOSER: BOB

BMarsh615
10-17-2009, 01:06 AM
TOUCHDOWN PERCENTAGE

Matt Cassel: 5.4
Kyle Orton: 4.2

WINNER: Matt Cassel

Most of your points are because of great field position off of gift turnovers. Your offense never drives down the field. You guys have the worst 3rd down offense in the NFL, QB's move the chains.... Cassel doesn't.

BMarsh615
10-17-2009, 09:12 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5309963&postcount=33

:spit:

GreatBronco16
10-17-2009, 10:34 AM
Calling out someone that doesnít even post here anymore. Do you feel better?

First thing, I didn't call him out. Second, he still lurks here, he doesn't have to post to be 'called out' or have his posts repsonded to. Now you can go back to holding his hand.

Miss I.
10-17-2009, 11:40 AM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/29/AbandonThread.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=4232)

boltaneer
10-17-2009, 11:48 AM
Cassel is averaging an impressive 178 yards a game on a team that is constantly behind. And as someone already pointed out, he's the worst in the NFL on 3rd downs. This is a quarterback you give $60 million to?

I could care less about his TD to INT ratio if he isn't moving the ball or winning games. He's Damon Huard part II.

Florida_Bronco
10-17-2009, 12:48 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/29/AbandonThread.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=4232)

:spit:

atomicbloke
10-17-2009, 12:55 PM
Orton 5-0
Cassel 0-5 and trying to hold off Croyle from stealing his job

WINNER: Orton
LOSER: BOB

Bob will tell you that W-L record is irrelevant for the 2009 season since neither team is going to win the superbowl.

He will tell you that the Chefs have found their franchise QB, while Denver hasnt.

Hence, Cheifs will be ahead in the power-ranking for the 2015 season.

In Bob's analysis, that is a win LOL

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-17-2009, 01:16 PM
Number of head shakes per game:

Cassel 10.7
Orton 2

Winner: CASSEL

Bronx33
10-17-2009, 01:20 PM
Man you could get rich just doing the opposite of what bob predicts.

Bronx33
10-17-2009, 01:22 PM
The Slowshown Moron-o vs LJ thread is in the archives. Ready to be bumped.


Get to bumpin dumbass.

Bronx33
10-17-2009, 01:24 PM
Nothing you say can change this fact that orton is outplaying marvelous matt cassells/Derek Anderson 2.0:

http://americansportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/broncos-quarterback-kyle-orton-and-the-teams-coach-josh-mcdaniels-h.jpg



Fixed

OABB
10-17-2009, 01:26 PM
Bob is by far the best mojo this board has ever had. keep it up loser! you're doing great for us.

Finger Roll
10-17-2009, 09:15 PM
TOUCHDOWN PERCENTAGE

Matt Cassel: 5.4
Kyle Orton: 4.2

WINNER: Matt Cassel

most Cassels Td's have come in garbage time against prevent Defenses.

BroncoInSkinland
10-17-2009, 10:32 PM
The Slowshown Moron-o vs LJ thread is in the archives. Ready to be bumped.

I didn't post in THAT loser thread, only this one. Go ahead and bring it up so I can get a good chuckle.

Rocket 7
10-17-2009, 10:43 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5309963&postcount=33

:spit:

85,000 posts damn dude go outside for once

BroncoMan4ever
10-18-2009, 12:38 AM
Bob will tell you that W-L record is irrelevant for the 2009 season since neither team is going to win the superbowl.

He will tell you that the Chefs have found their franchise QB, while Denver hasnt.

Hence, Cheifs will be ahead in the power-ranking for the 2015 season.

In Bob's analysis, that is a win LOL

good point. i forgot to remember Bob's stupidity and his always looking 5-10 years into the future for when his team will finally turn the corner and become competitive again.

also, even if Orton isn't the franchise QB we hitch our wagon to for the 10 years until he retires, we are still closer to having a franchise QB than the Chiefs even if we only keep him around a few more years.

BroncoMan4ever
10-18-2009, 12:42 AM
85,000 posts damn dude go outside for once

i did the math, that guy is averaging over 12100 posts a year, which is the equivalent of about 34 posts a day.

Bronco Rob
10-29-2009, 12:12 PM
Nothing you say can change this fact:]


6-0
http://americansportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/broncos-quarterback-kyle-orton-and-the-teams-coach-josh-mcdaniels-h.jpg


:rofl:

cutthemdown
10-29-2009, 12:32 PM
I bet Cassel would be looking pretty good in Denver. It's not his fault. The problem is they traded away 2 of their best players and kept Larry Johnson. That's a pretty big mistake.

Then guys like Hali, Dorsey, Albert can play some, but none became stars. You need a couple of studs on each side of the ball.

Bowe is good but the rest of the WR stink. You need 1 stud, and then 3 good WR for a good all around passing game. Even Manning has his stud in Wayne.

It's there failure to find big name studs, then trading the one they did find.

They probably over paid for Cassal but I don't think he stinks. It's just the team stinks, the city stinks, the fans stink, the coach was a bad hire, and pioli has a huge ego.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 12:32 PM
ol GoChiefs dug himself in a hole on this one didnt he?

To his defense, nobody thought the Broncos would be playing like this so far.

Not even most of you except the biggest homers.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 12:37 PM
i did the math, that guy is averaging over 12100 posts a year, which is the equivalent of about 34 posts a day.

he works for a Chiefs pay site/newsletter and posts at most Chiefs boards as free advertising.

Its known as Warpaint Illustrated, not the most credible source in Chiefs nation to get the scoop on the latest behind the scenes info from. The paysite is scout.com...infamous for its misleading and manufactured information that they say comes from "credible sources"

Funny sidenote, they actually got their media credentials taken from them at one point, not sure if they have em back yet or not.

GoChiefs is a good dude, but wpi and scout, not so much.

hookemhess
10-29-2009, 12:42 PM
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

Matt Cassel: 63
Kyle Orton: 5 or 6

Winner: MATT CASSEL

Are you really trying to brag about your overpaid backup quarterback?

bowtown
10-29-2009, 12:46 PM
he works for a Chiefs pay site/newsletter and posts at most Chiefs boards as free advertising.

Its known as Warpaint Illustrated, not the most credible source in Chiefs nation to get the scoop on the latest behind the scenes info from. The paysite is scout.com...infamous for its misleading and manufactured information that they say comes from "credible sources"

Funny sidenote, they actually got their media credentials taken from them at one point, not sure if they have em back yet or not.

GoChiefs is a good dude, but wpi and scout, not so much.

Dude, we have entire threads devoted to the FAIL that is WPI and Clayton "BlowChiefs." Maybe you haven't been around long enough to realize that he is infact NOT a good dude. He's a welching virgin scum troll. He also makes Official vs. threads like this, like it's his job and has been WRONG on every single one of them.

You think that he can't be blamed because no one could see the Broncos being this good? What you don't understand is that Bob's retarded posts are the exact reason we ARE so good and you guys suck balls. He has never been right in a single prediction ever. If he predicts it, the opposite happens. No matter what. It's a done deal.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 01:09 PM
Dude, we have entire threads devoted to the FAIL that is WPI and Clayton "BlowChiefs." Maybe you haven't been around long enough to realize that he is infact NOT a good dude. He's a welching virgin scum troll. He also makes Official vs. threads like this, like it's his job and has been WRONG on every single one of them.

You think that he can't be blamed because no one could see the Broncos being this good? What you don't understand is that Bob's retarded posts are the exact reason we ARE so good and you guys suck balls. He has never been right in a single prediction ever. If he predicts it, the opposite happens. No matter what. It's a done deal.

LOL

I can tell the guy strikes a nerve here as well. I actually had a 30 some post rant back and forth about a year ago with him where I brought out all his fraud and how he is percieved as such a pos because of WPI and the type of people he associates himself with there.

I was whooping on him so bad and so many people jumped in that the site owner (from the Coalition) started a thread saying it was open season on him and that normal rules of the site didnt pertain to him and anyone could say whatever they wish.

that was a crazy day. People still bring it up over there adn it happened a year ago.

If it wasnt against the tos here, I would post a link so ya'll could get a laugh.

Ive never seen a Chiefs fan get jumped so bad by other Chiefs fans in an internet forum.

So, because the guy is a Chiefs fan, he is a bad guy? Because he claims he is a virgin he isn't a good dude? The guy has pride in his team as I do, even in the worst of times. In a way, I respect that because it takes guts.

Id have a beer with him and try to get him some poontang if I met up with him.

I dont understand the bolded sentence, it seems ridiculous but Im sure it has a explaination that makes sense.

Peoples Champ
10-29-2009, 01:13 PM
Are you really trying to brag about your overpaid backup quarterback?


Ya, I wouldnt brag about it, unless I was Matt Cassell. I would be like, "I got paid and I suck, screw you guys, im rich B***"

Kinda like Barry Zito on the Oakland Athletics, I would love to be that guy. 120 mil.

2KBack
10-29-2009, 01:14 PM
LOL

I can tell the guy strikes a nerve here as well. I actually had a 30 some post rant back and forth about a year ago with him where I brought out all his fraud and how he is percieved as such a pos because of WPI and the type of people he associates himself with there.

I was whooping on him so bad and so many people jumped in that the site owner (from the Coalition) started a thread saying it was open season on him and that normal rules of the site didnt pertain to him and anyone could say whatever they wish.

that was a crazy day. People still bring it up over there adn it happened a year ago.

If it wasnt against the tos here, I would post a link so ya'll could get a laugh.

Ive never seen a Chiefs fan get jumped so bad by other Chiefs fans in an internet forum.

So, because the guy is a Chiefs fan, he is a bad guy? Because he claims he is a virgin he isn't a good dude? The guy has pride in his team as I do, even in the worst of times. In a way, I respect that because it takes guts.

Id have a beer with him and try to get him some poontang if I met up with him.

I dont understand the bolded sentence, it seems ridiculous but Im sure it has a explaination that makes sense.

you have to have experienced the history of Bob on this forum. He has earned every insult that has been thrown his way. It has little to do with who he is (chief fan, virgin, etc), and everything to do with his behavior on the site.

glennst
10-29-2009, 01:32 PM
you have to have experienced the history of Bob on this forum. He has earned every insult that has been thrown his way. It has little to do with who he is (chief fan, virgin, etc), and everything to do with his behavior on the site.

Eh, I think most people tend to overreact to Bob's shtick both here and on chiefsplanet. Just one "Stay down, b****" post and people start to rage.

I think he is a clever guy who creates this online persona to irritate the easily offended for his own amusement.

As a long time lurker, I certainly get some entertainment out of his presence, so he is ok in my book.
:thumbs:

DenverBound
10-29-2009, 01:52 PM
Bob tries this every year, with about every 2 players he can think of. It only ends up in him being the butt of the joke.

Stay tuned.


Posted 8/15/2009

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!

You are wise, my friend.

Peoples Champ
10-29-2009, 02:01 PM
Posted 8/15/2009

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!

You are wise, my friend.

yes you are a wise one.

Rock Chalk
10-29-2009, 02:04 PM
I dont understand the bolded sentence, it seems ridiculous but Im sure it has a explaination that makes sense.

Bob's threads are 100% wrong 100% of the time. Best mojo ever. Thats what his bolded sentence means.

Bronco Boy
10-29-2009, 02:08 PM
Plus he's not really a minister.

Peoples Champ
10-29-2009, 02:41 PM
Bob's threads are 100% wrong 100% of the time. Best mojo ever. Thats what his bolded sentence means.


Ya Bob's Mojo rocks. Its good having him on here. Without him, we arent 6-0. He is more important then Orton, dumervil, and Marshall

BossChief
10-29-2009, 03:24 PM
Bob's threads are 100% wrong 100% of the time. Best mojo ever. Thats what his bolded sentence means.

he might be able to tackle better than Mike Brown at this point of his career.

Greybeard
10-29-2009, 03:59 PM
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

Matt Cassel: 63
Kyle Orton: 5 or 6

Winner: MATT CASSEL

Winner: DENVER BRONCOS

Idiots: KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Hilarious!

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BossChief
10-29-2009, 04:30 PM
Winner: DENVER BRONCOS

Idiots: KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Hilarious!

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so, you think Josh McD is an idiot too?

Dont forget Orton was not his first choice of QB.

Cassel will be fine if we can protect him and add some more talent at WR.

Denver would have paid him the same or most likely more, if he hit the open market Im sure there was a guy in washington that would have paid him alot more.

I bet Ortons new contract will be very similar to what we paid Cassel.

Doggcow
10-29-2009, 04:41 PM
so, you think Josh McD is an idiot too?

Dont forget Orton was not his first choice of QB.

Cassel will be fine if we can protect him and add some more talent at WR.

Denver would have paid him the same or most likely more, if he hit the open market Im sure there was a guy in washington that would have paid him alot more.

I bet Ortons new contract will be very similar to what we paid Cassel.

Yeah, McDaniels is an idiot...

What makes you think Cassel was his first choice anyway you tool? Because he tried to get him on the cheap?

How do you know McSupergenius wasn't just setting up Cutler to be a punkass baby and set Denver up with one of the most lopsided trades EVER; knowing he could get Orton as a "throw in" with a bunch of stud draft picks?

Sorry to break it to you bub, you have NO ****ING CLUE what McD was or wasn't thinking.

Try again.

Br0nc0Buster
10-29-2009, 05:00 PM
Eh, I think most people tend to overreact to Bob's shtick both here and on chiefsplanet. Just one "Stay down, b****" post and people start to rage.

I think he is a clever guy who creates this online persona to irritate the easily offended for his own amusement.

As a long time lurker, I certainly get some entertainment out of his presence, so he is ok in my book.
:thumbs:

you missed where he was bagging on a guy who had a terminal illness
hes a loser who just does what he does for attention

Br0nc0Buster
10-29-2009, 05:07 PM
so, you think Josh McD is an idiot too?

Dont forget Orton was not his first choice of QB.

Cassel will be fine if we can protect him and add some more talent at WR.

Denver would have paid him the same or most likely more, if he hit the open market Im sure there was a guy in washington that would have paid him alot more.

I bet Ortons new contract will be very similar to what we paid Cassel.

this has been beaten to death here, but if you think that Josh actually botched an attempt for Cassel in then you are misinformed

Im not saying Josh wouldnt of liked to have Cassel on the roster, but he didnt try and trade Cutler for him so we dont really know how much McDaniels wanted Cassel

BossChief
10-29-2009, 05:12 PM
Yeah, McDaniels is an idiot...

What makes you think Cassel was his first choice anyway you tool? Because he tried to get him on the cheap?

How do you know McSupergenius wasn't just setting up Cutler to be a punkass baby and set Denver up with one of the most lopsided trades EVER; knowing he could get Orton as a "throw in" with a bunch of stud draft picks?

Sorry to break it to you bub, you have NO ****ING CLUE what McD was or wasn't thinking.

Try again.
I didnt say he was an idiot, if you would read my posts and think before reacting, you would know that. I asked a question.

namecalling is for second grade man.

It is well documented that he tried to trade for Cassel before he settled for Orton. That is FACT. There were weeks in between. NE couldnt wait, they had to sign their rookies and couldnt do so until they got the 15 mill off the books.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 05:21 PM
this has been beaten to death here, but if you think that Josh actually botched an attempt for Cassel in then you are misinformed

Im not saying Josh wouldnt of liked to have Cassel on the roster, but he didnt try and trade Cutler for him so we dont really know how much McDaniels wanted Cassel

I didnt say he botched an attempt did I?

You people must really be used to alot of trolls here because you sure are quick to jump. I am not one and the ones that have read and comprehended my posts have voiced support to me.

calm down, go back and read what I said.

I didnt say he tried to trade him for Cutler. I said he wanted Cassel well before he settled for Orton. That is not my opinion, it is fact, even Josh said so.

Look, what he wanted to do IMHO was to get Cassel and ship Cutler far away from the team. All while extracting the cream off the top of the deal and adding more pieces to the team with them.

He knew he could win more games with Cassell and a first round pick, than he could with Cutler and it was bold and brilliant.

That keeps his team with a qb he can win with and keeps a division rival without one.

Its obvious he had more than just the Broncos QB position in mind in the dealings.

chess not checkers

Doggcow
10-29-2009, 05:24 PM
I didnt say he was an idiot, if you would read my posts and think before reacting, you would know that. I asked a question.

namecalling is for second grade man.

It is well documented that he tried to trade for Cassel before he settled for Orton. That is FACT. There were weeks in between. NE couldnt wait, they had to sign their rookies and couldnt do so until they got the 15 mill off the books.

You have no definitive proof that McD didn't plan on Orton all along. This "settled" BS is just that.. Bull****.

cutthemdown
10-29-2009, 05:31 PM
I didnt say he botched an attempt did I?

You people must really be used to alot of trolls here because you sure are quick to jump. I am not one and the ones that have read and comprehended my posts have voiced support to me.

calm down, go back and read what I said.

I didnt say he tried to trade him for Cutler. I said he wanted Cassel well before he settled for Orton. That is not my opinion, it is fact, even Josh said so.

Look, what he wanted to do IMHO was to get Cassel and ship Cutler far away from the team. All while extracting the cream off the top of the deal and adding more pieces to the team with them.

He knew he could win more games with Cassell and a first round pick, than he could with Cutler and it was bold and brilliant.

That keeps his team with a qb he can win with and keeps a division rival without one.

Its obvious he had more than just the Broncos QB position in mind in the dealings.

chess not checkers

Bellicheck seems close with Mcdaniels. If we had wanted Cassel then why didn't it happen?

We could have made the move and still then traded Cutler for the 2 firsts we got right?

Not sure what the deal was but who cares Orton winning.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 05:35 PM
You have no definitive proof that McD didn't plan on Orton all along. This "settled" BS is just that.. Bull****.

OK he "faked" trying to trade for Cassel, btw in case you didnt know this, he was the QB he had coached for the last few years and for the last year of starting when he made strides toward the end of the year, weeks before his master plan unraveled to finally land the all world talent Kyle Orton that he had targeted all along..

Gimme a break...

Do you realize how bad that sounds from the outside looking in?

Ya know what, you are a little too emotional to have an adult conversation with so Im gonna leave you alone.

FAIL

Greybeard
10-29-2009, 05:40 PM
so, you think Josh McD is an idiot too?

Dont forget Orton was not his first choice of QB.

Cassel will be fine if we can protect him and add some more talent at WR.

Denver would have paid him the same or most likely more, if he hit the open market Im sure there was a guy in washington that would have paid him alot more.

I bet Ortons new contract will be very similar to what we paid Cassel.

I believe anyone who just swallows the story that McDaniels tried to trade for
Cassel is an idiot. What McDaniels and Xanders both said was that they listened
to offers and declined. Until conclusive evidence to the contrary is presented,
that is what I will accept.

Also, anyone who thinks McDaniels would have paid what "that guy in
Washington" would have paid, or even what those bafoons in KC did pay, for
Cassel is an idiot. Pay attention to what all McDaniels got and what he paid
for them. He does not believe in throwing money at talent; he believes in
acquiring players who will buy into the system and produce a winning product.

Meanwhile, Orton's contract is about 10% that of Cassel's. Now check the
respective W-L records between Denver and KC. Who's the idiot?

Class is now over. You can go home. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/coffee.gif

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BossChief
10-29-2009, 05:40 PM
Bellicheck seems close with Mcdaniels. If we had wanted Cassel then why didn't it happen?

We could have made the move and still then traded Cutler for the 2 firsts we got right?

Not sure what the deal was but who cares Orton winning.

Pioli has worked with BB since boy wonder (I mean that literally) was in high school and no, if they traded for Cassel while keeping Cutler on the team, his value would be lessened because every team would have them over a barrel in the smallest sense of the term.

Finally a voice of reason, who cares? They are winning.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 05:52 PM
I believe anyone who just swallows the story that McDaniels tried to trade for
Cassel is an idiot. What McDaniels and Xanders both said was that they listened
to offers and declined. Until conclusive evidence to the contrary is presented,
that is what I will accept.

Also, anyone who thinks McDaniels would have paid like "that guy in
Washington," or even those bafoons in KC did for Cassel is an idiot. Pay
attention to what all McDaniels got and what he paid for them. He does not
believe in throwing money at talent; he believes in acquiring players who will
buy into the system and produce a winning product.

Meanwhile, Orton's contract is about 10% that of Cassel's. Who's the idiot?

Class is now over. You can go home. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/coffee.gif

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you do realize there is a comma in there that serves a purpose right?

If your gonna go around calling good people idiots, you might wanna learn how to read the language you are reading and writing. Just for starters...

I said that Denver would have paid Cassel the same as KC after a trade (to think that he would be traded for and that Xanders would sign him for less that Pioli is laughable, Pioli was the executive of the decade for a reason) and that IF HE HAD HIT THE OPEN MARKET WASHINGTON WOULD HAVE SPENT WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE SURE THEY SIGNED HIM. That easier for you to understand? I'm sure someone can get some crayons for you to help out if you still don't get it, big guy.

Don't be completely rude to me and I will be civil and a pretty nice guy, talk ****, call names and push it further and I can too, but that isn't my objective.

wise man once said: never argue with idiots, they just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Only idiots/blowhards name call to try to seem "more right:

Doesn't anyone remember McD holding the Cutler jersey and asking him to come talk so they could salvage what they had? It was only after that they continued to explore trade options. That was after the Cassel deal for those with bad memory. Bowlen wanted Cutler to stay. Boy Wonder wanted a starting qb and change.

Orton hasn't resigned yet. His contract will be comparable to Cassels when he does before next year starts. Write it down.

If you can write.

Greybeard
10-29-2009, 05:58 PM
you do realize there is a comma in there that serves a purpose right?

If your gonna go around calling good people idiots, you might wanna learn how to read the language you are reading and writing. Just for starters...

I said that Denver would have paid Cassel the same as KC after a trade and that IF HE HAD HIT THE OPEN MARKET WASHINGTON WOULD HAVE SPENT WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE SURE THEY SIGNED HIM. That easier for you to understand? Im sure someone can get some crayons for you to help out if you still dont get it, big guy.

Doesnt anyone remember McD holding the Cutler jersey and asking him to come talk so they could salvage what they had? It was only after that they continued to explore trade options. That was after the Cassel deal for those with bad memory. Bowlen wanted Cutler to stay. Boy Wonder wanted a starting qb and change.

Orton hasnt resigned yet. His contract will be comparable to Cassels when he does before next year starts. Write it down.

If you can write.

The word is "re-signed," grammar cop. To "resign" is essentially to quit.

Sometimes, on a football message board, a poster will hammer out a message,
and you will see errors. Some of these posters (such as I) are far more
educated in the art of writing than you are. This is not a postgraduate thesis.
If you want to talk football, then talk. If you want to talk English grammar, go
somewhere else. I haven't had any desire to discuss the latter since I retired
as an English teacher at the high school level.

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DenverBrit
10-29-2009, 06:03 PM
The word is "re-signed," grammar cop. To "resign" is essentially to quit.

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Talk about a pet peeve.

One is almost the opposite of the other, yet it seems about 50% get it wrong when talking about a player re-signing with the Broncos.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 06:04 PM
The word is "re-signed," grammar cop. To "resign" is essentially to quit.

Sometimes, on a football message board, a poster will hammer out a message,
and you will see errors. Some of these posters (such as I) are far more
educated in the art of writing than you are. This is not a postgraduate thesis.
If you want to talk football, then talk. If you want to talk English grammar, go
somewhere else. I haven't had any desire to discuss the latter since I retired
as an English teacher at the high school level.

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funny, you tried twisting my words by ignoring the comma is all I'm saying Mr english teacher retired.

I expect more class from a retired school teacher personally.

Greybeard
10-29-2009, 06:10 PM
funny, you tried twisting my words by ignoring the comma is all I'm saying Mr english teacher retired.

I expect more class from a retired school teacher personally.

Did you forget to capitalize the first word in your sentence and the word
"English"? Oh, and a period goes after "Mr," doesn't it? Oh yes, and a comma
should go behind "saying."

Now, let's get this back to football. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh256/AZDynamics/Smilies/focus.gif

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Houshyamama
10-29-2009, 06:12 PM
you do realize there is a comma in there that serves a purpose right?

If your gonna go around calling good people idiots, you might wanna learn how to read the language you are reading and writing. Just for starters...

I said that Denver would have paid Cassel the same as KC after a trade (to think that he would be traded for and that Xanders would sign him for less that Pioli is laughable, Pioli was the executive of the decade for a reason) and that IF HE HAD HIT THE OPEN MARKET WASHINGTON WOULD HAVE SPENT WHATEVER IT TOOK TO MAKE SURE THEY SIGNED HIM. That easier for you to understand? I'm sure someone can get some crayons for you to help out if you still don't get it, big guy.

Don't be completely rude to me and I will be civil and a pretty nice guy, talk ****, call names and push it further and I can too, but that isn't my objective.

wise man once said: never argue with idiots, they just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Only idiots/blowhards name call to try to seem "more right:

Doesn't anyone remember McD holding the Cutler jersey and asking him to come talk so they could salvage what they had? It was only after that they continued to explore trade options. That was after the Cassel deal for those with bad memory. Bowlen wanted Cutler to stay. Boy Wonder wanted a starting qb and change.

Orton hasn't resigned yet. His contract will be comparable to Cassels when he does before next year starts. Write it down.

If you can write.

What if a new CBA isn't signed? Write it down, Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I'm glad you've come here to clear up this Cutler/McDaniels/Bowlen misunderstanding. We were all SO confused and apparently all it took was a Chiefs fan to clear it up for us. Thanks so much.

Greybeard
10-29-2009, 06:14 PM
Talk about a pet peeve.

One is almost the opposite of the other, yet it seems about 50% get it wrong when talking about a player re-signing with the Broncos.

Yep, but I've never mentioned it to anybody before now. ;D

REP.

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Rugby7
10-29-2009, 06:14 PM
if they traded for Cassel while keeping Cutler on the team, his value would be lessened because every team would have them over a barrel in the smallest sense of the term.

This is not true. Once Bowlen said he would trade Cutler it created the same exact position of leverage or lack there of that you speak of.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 06:27 PM
What if a new CBA isn't signed? Write it down, Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I'm glad you've come here to clear up this Cutler/McDaniels/Bowlen misunderstanding. We were all SO confused and apparently all it took was a Chiefs fan to clear it up for us. Thanks so much.

what kinda bet you wanna make that if Orton doesn't **** the bed in the rest of the season, he will have a new deal bye the start of the new year? With or without a new cba and injury aside of course.

Quit with your pride or let it be you're undoing...your choice.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm glad you've come here to clear up this Cutler/McDaniels/Bowlen misunderstanding. We were all SO confused and apparently all it took was a Chiefs fan to clear it up for us. Thanks so much.

glad I could be of help

Houshyamama
10-29-2009, 06:29 PM
what kinda bet you wanna make that if Orton doesn't **** the bed in the rest of the season, he will have a new deal bye the start of the new year? With or without a new cba and injury aside of course.

Quit with your pride or let it be you're undoing...your choice.

Definitely possible I'll give you that.

BossChief
10-29-2009, 06:37 PM
Definitely possible I'll give you that.

possible nothing, signing a qb long term is a message that "this is our guy"

Ill even add into the proposed bet that the contract will be within 20% in most major factors of Cassels deal, including:

bonus (28 mill)
average per year (10 mill)
amount of years (6)

I dont think it might happen, it WILL happen. Its the way of the NFL.

Just because you don't have to re-sign your qb after a good year where he did everything that was asked of him and won games, doesn't mean you don't do so.

Crushisback
10-29-2009, 06:47 PM
funny, you tried twisting my words by ignoring the comma is all I'm saying Mr english teacher retard.

I expect more class from a retarded school teacher personally.

Didn't you just get on him for name calling?

BossChief
10-29-2009, 06:54 PM
Didn't you just get on him for name calling?

LOLOLOLOL

I see what you did now, I thought I **** the bed!

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 06:23 AM
Matt SAND Castle 102/186 994 54.8 73.2 8TDS 5INTS 1-5







:welcome:

BossChief
10-30-2009, 08:08 AM
Matt SAND Castle 102/186 994 54.8 73.2 8TDS 5INTS 1-5







:welcome:

pretty close to his stats last year before he got up to speed.

1095 6/4

I dont think its fair to judge Cassel until we put a oline in front of him that gives him more than 1.5 seconds.

It was foolish for anyone to post this type of topic before the season started.

Not too surprised who did it.

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 09:45 AM
pretty close to his stats last year before he got up to speed.

1095 6/4

I dont think its fair to judge Cassel until we put a oline in front of him that gives him more than 1.5 seconds.

It was foolish for anyone to post this type of topic before the season started.

Not too surprised who did it.



Matty Sand Castle got sacked 47 times behind the Pats O-line aka he holds the ball too long. He was a product of a system and got a "Elvis Grbac/Scott Mitchell" payday for it.

Give me Moss, Welker etc etc I'd go 11-5......

Cheeefs got duped.....

McDman
10-30-2009, 10:24 AM
LOL

I can tell the guy strikes a nerve here as well. I actually had a 30 some post rant back and forth about a year ago with him where I brought out all his fraud and how he is percieved as such a pos because of WPI and the type of people he associates himself with there.

I was whooping on him so bad and so many people jumped in that the site owner (from the Coalition) started a thread saying it was open season on him and that normal rules of the site didnt pertain to him and anyone could say whatever they wish.

that was a crazy day. People still bring it up over there adn it happened a year ago.

If it wasnt against the tos here, I would post a link so ya'll could get a laugh.

Ive never seen a Chiefs fan get jumped so bad by other Chiefs fans in an internet forum.

So, because the guy is a Chiefs fan, he is a bad guy? Because he claims he is a virgin he isn't a good dude? The guy has pride in his team as I do, even in the worst of times. In a way, I respect that because it takes guts.

Id have a beer with him and try to get him some poontang if I met up with him.

I dont understand the bolded sentence, it seems ridiculous but Im sure it has a explaination that makes sense.

You need to post that link, it must be gold.

skunk
10-30-2009, 10:42 AM
gay stuff

ur gay

BossChief
10-30-2009, 10:53 AM
You need to post that link, it must be gold.

I hope I dont bet banned for this, I like it here...

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=8340&hl=rooney

this is the aftermath thread

Ill see if I can the post that set it off

you might have to create an account.

Many of you would be welcomed, just dont be afraid of being called a troll.

Enjoy!




TO THE MODS: IF THIS IS NOT TO BE PERMITTED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL ERASE THIS POST!

KCStud
10-30-2009, 11:15 AM
Matty Sand Castle got sacked 47 times behind the Pats O-line aka he holds the ball too long. He was a product of a system and got a "Elvis Grbac/Scott Mitchell" payday for it.

Give me Moss, Welker etc etc I'd go 11-5......

Cheeefs got duped.....

That's funny because it looks to me like Orton is a product of Denvers system. Put an elite OL, pro bowl caliber WR's and a first round pick at RB and it would be hard for any QB to mess that up

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:21 AM
That's funny because it looks to me like Orton is a product of Denvers system. Put an elite OL, pro bowl caliber WR's and a first round pick at RB and it would be hard for any QB to mess that up

damn reality spouting trolls!

azbroncfan
10-30-2009, 11:24 AM
I hope I dont bet banned for this, I like it here...

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forums/index.php?showtopic=8340&hl=rooney

this is the aftermath thread

Ill see if I can the post that set it off

you might have to create an account.

Many of you would be welcomed, just dont be afraid of being called a troll.

Enjoy!




TO THE MODS: IF THIS IS NOT TO BE PERMITTED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL ERASE THIS POST!

I think a few here post a chefplanet but that board is full of blind homers who can't talk any real football.

KCStud
10-30-2009, 11:25 AM
damn reality spouting trolls!

The part I like the most is how 90% of this board hated McDaniels for 6 months and now all the sudden they like him. Oh how I miss the days when this board was infatuated with Jay Cutler. Ha!

azbroncfan
10-30-2009, 11:28 AM
That's funny because it looks to me like Orton is a product of Denvers system. Put an elite OL, pro bowl caliber WR's and a first round pick at RB and it would be hard for any QB to mess that up

While that is true for most QB's it still doesn't change the fact that Cassel holds on to the ball too long(ROB JOHNSON STYLE) and takes a bunch of unnecessary sacks.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:35 AM
I think a few here post a chefplanet but that board is full of blind homers who can't talk any real football.
This is from the Chiefscoalition, just as many homers though. You guys would love knowmo...blindest homer of all time that is livin it up nowadays.

The Chiefs are a proud franchise with hard working, middle class fans, some fans have a hard time with how the last couple years have played out.

This board has its gems too, believe me. I try to do nothing but offer unbiased analysis about your team and have been called all sorts of names, unjustly.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:40 AM
ur gay

thanks for the input into the conversation.

Have a happy 12th birthday!

bowtown
10-30-2009, 11:40 AM
That's funny because it looks to me like Orton is a product of Denvers system. Put an elite OL, pro bowl caliber WR's and a first round pick at RB and it would be hard for any QB to mess that up

Nobody is arguing this dicksmack. The difference is that we actually HAVE a system... which happens to be the one that Cassel also excelled in. But please continue to feel good about the fact that you are paying 60 million for system QB with no system.

bowtown
10-30-2009, 11:41 AM
The Chiefs are a proud franchise with hard working, middle class fans, some fans have a hard time with how the last couple years have played out.


Apparently they are also all terrible at counting.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:44 AM
Nobody is arguing this *****mack. The difference is that we actually HAVE a system... which happens to be the one that Cassel also excelled in. But please continue to feel good about the fact that you are paying 60 million for system QB with no system.

in this league, if you have a chance to get a possible franchise qb for less than you would pay for a rookie first round one, you pull the trigger even if you dont have the pieces for him to thrive immediatly.

Even though I have been somewhat disapointed in his play so far, I was prepared for it.

Rome wasnt built in a day.

I hope our teams have some memorable great games in the coming years. I trust that they will.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:47 AM
Apparently they are also all terrible at counting.

We made the playoffs more recently than the Broncos have, so what is your point?

We fell apart a little before the halfway point of the 07 season.

Evidently some Broncos cant count is more like it.

bowtown
10-30-2009, 11:51 AM
We made the playoffs more recently than the Broncos have, so what is your point?

We fell apart a little before the halfway point of the 07 season.

Evidently some Broncos cant count is more like it.

Made schmade... congrats on backing in. Not sure how any KC fan could have felt good about that team. When's the last time you won a playoff game or even put up any semblance of a fight in the post season? This year is the big fifteen year anniversary isn't it?

bowtown
10-30-2009, 11:53 AM
in this league, if you have a chance to get a possible franchise qb for less than you would pay for a rookie first round one, you pull the trigger even if you dont have the pieces for him to thrive immediatly.

Even though I have been somewhat disapointed in his play so far, I was prepared for it.

Rome wasnt built in a day.

I hope our teams have some memorable great games in the coming years. I trust that they will.

Again, Cassel is not a franchise QB, he is a system QB. So get working on the system, you guys have a long way to go.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 12:18 PM
Made schmade... congrats on backing in. Not sure how any KC fan could have felt good about that team. When's the last time you won a playoff game or even put up any semblance of a fight in the post season? This year is the big fifteen year anniversary isn't it?

Thanks to the 49ers!!! I wont go further in that Im sure its a sore subject.

spoken by a fan of a team that got ass raped annually by PM, and has choked for three years straight in December.

Not since Montana, I know. We suck.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 12:26 PM
Again, Cassel is not a franchise QB, he is a system QB. So get working on the system, you guys have a long way to go.

thank you.

I am not the casual fan, I prefer a game manager. In most cases a game manager is a franchise qb.

What do you think is required to be labeled a franchise qb? I feel your definition is different than mine.

If your about to compare Orton to a few first ballot HOFers, save it.

bowtown
10-30-2009, 12:51 PM
thank you.

I am not the casual fan, I prefer a game manager. In most cases a game manager is a franchise qb.

What do you think is required to be labeled a franchise qb? I feel your definition is different than mine.

If your about to compare Orton to a few first ballot HOFers, save it.

I think a franchise QB is one that you build you team around, a system QB is more of a cog in the machine. I don't consider Orton to be a franchise QB... yet. He is replacable by another smart QB with game management abilities, for example Matt Cassel.

Neither of them are probably going to go out and win a game all by themselves like Elway used to do on a consistent basis. I think a true franchise QB has all the tools and is much harder to come by. Now some game manger, system QBs can eventually mature into franchise QBs (Brady, Big Ben). Both started out as system QBs but have become QBs that now play above the system. You could put them in any offense and they would be stars. Cassel wouldn't. Orton wouldn't.

I think both of them, at this point in thier progress need to have a strong team around them to have success. Neither are probably going to elevate their team a whole ton by themselves, but both are capable managers. The big difference is that Orton is in a situation where he has that system around him that he can grow in and continue to develop. Cassel is in a situation where he is at least 3 years from having any sort of comfortable system to opperate in. It is hard for a system QB to contunue to progress if he doesn't have a system to play within. By the time you guys get there, I just think you may have already given up on him and he will be on the wrong side of 30.

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 12:53 PM
We made the playoffs more recently than the Broncos have, so what is your point?


POINT: Last kansas city chef playoff victory January 16th 1994


any questions?



:sunshine:

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 12:59 PM
That's funny because it looks to me like Orton is a product of Denvers system. Put an elite OL, pro bowl caliber WR's and a first round pick at RB and it would be hard for any QB to mess that up


What a minute you said the Broncos offense was Cutler/Shanny driven and would fall apart with out them....I told you....Well Peter King did but none the less....

"The Broncos will miss Cutler, because they have the best young offensive nucleus in football. Tackles Ryan Clady and Ryan Harris will both go to multiple Pro Bowls. Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal are the best receivers in tandem 26 or younger in football right now".


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/04/02/cutler.reaction.ap/index.html?eref=yahoo_buzz


Funny how you forget chef fan........


DOH!

BossChief
10-30-2009, 01:12 PM
I think a franchise QB is one that you build you team around, a system QB is more of a cog in the machine. I don't consider Orton to be a franchise QB... yet. He is replacable by another smart QB with game management abilities, for example Matt Cassel.

Neither of them are probably going to go out and win a game all by themselves like Elway used to do on a consistent basis. I think a true franchise QB has all the tools and is much harder to come by. Now some game manger, system QBs can eventually mature into franchise QBs (Brady, Big Ben). Both started out as system QBs but have become QBs that now play above the system. You could put them in any offense and they would be stars. Cassel wouldn't. Orton wouldn't.

I think both of them, at this point in thier progress need to have a strong team around them to have success. Neither are probably going to elevate their team a whole ton by themselves, but both are capable managers. The big difference is that Orton is in a situation where he has that system around him that he can grow in and continue to develop. Cassel is in a situation where he is at least 3 years from having any sort of comfortable system to opperate in. It is hard for a system QB to contunue to progress if he doesn't have a system to play within. By the time you guys get there, I just think you may have already given up on him and he will be on the wrong side of 30.

You may be right, but keep in mind that Haley fired the OC once preseason was half over and the offense isnt even half installed yet, the bye will help that, but wont help replace at least two of the olinemen so that the jailbreaks stop and MC has a chance to go through his progressions. Things will be a little better by years end and if we can get a couple good olinemen added during the offseason, things will start looking up more and more starting next year.

Im patient.

time will tell

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 01:16 PM
Im patient.

time will tell


40 years since a trip to the Superbowl and 15 years since the cheefs won a playoff game you must be very "patient".



just sayin'

BossChief
10-30-2009, 01:20 PM
40 years since a trip to the Superbowl and 15 years since the cheefs won a playoff game you must be very "patient".



just sayin'

feel better about yourself?

Ill tell you one thing, if/when we do turn this thing around and we start winning again, I will still show class.

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 01:23 PM
feel better about yourself?

Ill tell you one thing, if/when we do turn this thing around and we start winning again, I will still show class.

Stating facts isn't "classy"?

It's not my fault kc hasn't done anything since Nixon was in office...

geez switch to decaf....



;)

BossChief
10-30-2009, 01:57 PM
Stating facts isn't "classy"?

It's not my fault kc hasn't done anything since Nixon was in office...

geez switch to decaf....



;)

unneeded and unprovoked taunting is very "non-class"

Its expected though, evidently Im a Chiefs fan/troll on a Bronco board. :thumbsup:

People will get used to me and know that isn't a fact, in time.

Peoples Champ
10-30-2009, 02:54 PM
unneeded and unprovoked taunting is very "non-class"

Its expected though, evidently Im a Chiefs fan/troll on a Bronco board. :thumbsup:

People will get used to me and know that isn't a fact, in time.

ya i mean you gotta excpect people giving you a hard time. This is a bronco board.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 04:10 PM
ya i mean you gotta excpect people giving you a hard time. This is a bronco board.

exactly.

I will earn my stripes over time here and people will respect my posts because they will have a consistant history behind them. Right now, Im not only "a troll" but a "new troll", evidently the worst kind.

KCStud
10-30-2009, 06:11 PM
Nobody is arguing this *****mack. The difference is that we actually HAVE a system... which happens to be the one that Cassel also excelled in. But please continue to feel good about the fact that you are paying 60 million for system QB with no system.

They are both system QB's. The difference is that one has his system ready with elite parts and the other one has nothing.

Why don't you go watch the NE vs NYG superbowl again. That game is proof enough that any QB falters without an OL.

boltaneer
10-30-2009, 07:02 PM
Cassel is the currently the 2nd most sacked QB this season (one behind Rodgers). Unless he gets benched, I'm betting he is going to win the most sacked award two years in a row.

DenverBrit
10-30-2009, 08:21 PM
They are both system QB's. The difference is that one has his system ready with elite parts and the other one has nothing.

Why don't you go watch the NE vs NYG superbowl again. That game is proof enough that any QB falters without an OL.

So the Chiefs paid franchise QB money to Cassel to be what....a crash test dummy?

Mission accomplished!

gunns
10-30-2009, 08:31 PM
Thanks to the 49ers!!! I wont go further in that Im sure its a sore subject.

spoken by a fan of a team that got ass raped annually by PM, and has choked for three years straight in December.

Not since Montana, I know. We suck.

I'll take 3 years over 40 any day.

gunns
10-30-2009, 08:37 PM
They are both system QB's. The difference is that one has his system ready with elite parts and the other one has nothing.

Why don't you go watch the NE vs NYG superbowl again. That game is proof enough that any QB falters without an OL.

What? He faltered against a better defense and a team that didn't take for granted they would win.

baja
10-30-2009, 08:42 PM
exactly.

I will earn my stripes over time here and people will respect my posts because they will have a consistant history behind them. Right now, Im not only "a troll" but a "new troll", evidently the worst kind.

Well it's refreshing you just let your takes speak for themselves.

Circle Orange
10-30-2009, 08:45 PM
Cassel is finding that success in one organization doesn't travel to another. Is he a one trick pony?

Still, he has lovely eyes. That has to count for something. ;D

Bronco Rob
10-30-2009, 08:56 PM
So the Chiefs paid franchise QB money to Cassel to be what....a crash test dummy?

Mission accomplished!




:rofl:

AbileneBroncoFan
10-30-2009, 09:45 PM
Kyle Orton's season projection:

3907 yards, 63.9% completion percentage, 24 TDs, 3 INT's (0 in non-hail mary's), 100.1 QB rating, 16 wins, 0 losses, first round bye in playoffs

Matt Cassel's season projection:

2272 yards, 54.8% completion percentage, 18 TDs, 11 INT's, 73.2 QB rating, 3 wins, 12 losses, no playoffs (top 5 draft pick in 2010 draft)

Still a lot of football to be played, but I think Cassel has about as good of a chance of winning this race as I do of beating Usain Bolt.

Raidersbane
10-30-2009, 09:56 PM
The Slowshown Moron-o vs LJ thread is in the archives. Ready to be bumped.



And it has...LOL

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:12 PM
Cassel is the currently the 2nd most sacked QB this season (one behind Rodgers). Unless he gets benched, I'm betting he is going to win the most sacked award two years in a row.

here here!!!

we gotta win something!

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:15 PM
Well it's refreshing you just let your takes speak for themselves.

this didnt go unnoticed. I appreciate you noticing.

BossChief
10-30-2009, 11:17 PM
Kyle Orton's season projection:

3907 yards, 63.9% completion percentage, 24 TDs, 3 INT's (0 in non-hail mary's), 100.1 QB rating, 16 wins, 0 losses, first round bye in playoffs

Matt Cassel's season projection:

2272 yards, 54.8% completion percentage, 18 TDs, 11 INT's, 73.2 QB rating, 3 wins, 12 losses, no playoffs (top 5 draft pick in 2010 draft)

Still a lot of football to be played, but I think Cassel has about as good of a chance of winning this race as I do of beating Usain Bolt.

did you figure in the fact that we are through the tough part of our schedule and you guys are about to enter yours?

AbileneBroncoFan
10-31-2009, 12:08 AM
did you figure in the fact that we are through the tough part of our schedule and you guys are about to enter yours?

No. There's no way to really calculate how that will affect it so I just did the math based on what we have already seen. I know Orton has played his best 3 games in his past 3 games, all against good teams. However, I seriously doubt he gets almost 4000 yards. 24 TDs is a possibility. 3 INTs is probably a little low, but he'll keep it in at 8 or less I would imagine. Completion percentage will probably stay within the 63-65 range. Not gonna get 16 wins in the regular season. His rating has a shot to be over 100 if he can keep the picks down and TDs consistent. It'll probably be over 90 for sure. He's having a pro bowl year, but he probably won't make it (I'll say it's Manning, Brady, Palmer, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Orton in the final vote). Bottom line is he's doing his job.

As for Cassel, I honestly haven't seen enough of KC to know what's going on, other than the team as a whole is not very good and the RB is a dumbass. I think he's an ok QB, but he's never going to be a pro bowl type player. I don't think it's his fault the team is 1-6. I will say that after what I've seen so far, I'd still take him over Cutler. Cutler could carry a team better, but he can sure as **** sink one too. Cassel has a McDaniels type attitude. You can get things done with that. But I'm glad we got Orton instead as he's only getting better.

azbroncfan
10-31-2009, 12:14 AM
did you figure in the fact that we are through the tough part of our schedule and you guys are about to enter yours?

Our whole schedule is tough other than KC, Oakland, Cleveland. KC and Oakland have a loss in the equation because of rivalries too.

BossChief
10-31-2009, 05:22 AM
Our whole schedule is tough other than KC, Oakland, Cleveland. KC and Oakland have a loss in the equation because of rivalries too.

we play all the same teams except one. You play indy, we play jaxonville.

KCStud
10-31-2009, 07:05 AM
Kyle Orton's season projection:

3907 yards, 63.9% completion percentage, 24 TDs, 3 INT's (0 in non-hail mary's), 100.1 QB rating, 16 wins, 0 losses, first round bye in playoffs

Matt Cassel's season projection:

2272 yards, 54.8% completion percentage, 18 TDs, 11 INT's, 73.2 QB rating, 3 wins, 12 losses, no playoffs (top 5 draft pick in 2010 draft)

Still a lot of football to be played, but I think Cassel has about as good of a chance of winning this race as I do of beating Usain Bolt.

This is like comparing apples to oranges. Cassel has it rougher than Orton did when he was with the Bears. I'll take Cassel's stats considering he has no running game and he is on pace to be the most sacked QB in the league for the 2nd season in a row.

BMarsh615
10-31-2009, 09:52 AM
This is like comparing apples to oranges. Cassel has it rougher than Orton did when he was with the Bears. I'll take Cassel's stats considering he has no running game and he is on pace to be the most sacked QB in the league for the 2nd season in a row.

Bull****. Kyle Orton had an offensive line that is just as bad as the Chiefs when he was in Chicago. He didn't have a legit No. 1 WR like Cassel does.

azbroncfan
10-31-2009, 10:37 AM
we play all the same teams except one. You play indy, we play jaxonville.

Right but both will probably lose so it is a wash.

Bronco Rob
10-31-2009, 10:37 AM
Bull****. Kyle Orton had an offensive line that is just as bad as the Chiefs when he was in Chicago. He didn't have a legit No. 1 WR like Cassel does.


TRUTH! and still was 21-12 as a starter. Cassel took over a team that went 19-1 the season before and couldn't even get them to the playoffs....


nuff said....

Bronco Rob
10-31-2009, 01:52 PM
Iím starting to get cold feet about Cassel

JASON WHITLOCK COMMENTARY
Posted on Tue, May. 26, 2009


If this is an audition, itís a very expensive one.

When Scott Pioli struck the deal for Tom Brady understudy Matt Cassel, the experts lauded Pioli for acquiring the one-year wonder for such a ďreasonableĒ price, a second-round pick.

Three months later ó with Cassel still unsigned to a long-term deal ó the price tag is losing quite a bit of its discount value. In fact, you could argue that Cassel inked a rather generous prenuptial agreement and Bill Belichick unloaded a potential headache.

It appears the Chiefs have little interest in signing Matt Cassel to a long-term contract before the start of the season. Or, more likely, Pioli lost interest in signing Cassel to a long-term contract once Kansas Cityís first-time general manager learned Cassel and agent David Dunnís asking price.

Given Casselís and Pioliís New England relationship, I just assumed when the Chiefs traded for Cassel, the parameters of a long-term deal were agreed upon before the trade. I assumed wrong. Or, more likely, Cassel and Dunn elevated their contract demands after perusing the Chiefsí roster and salary-cap situation.

The Chiefs have enough salary-cap room to house, feed, clothe and entertain most of Canada. And Kansas Cityís current offensive personnel would make any rational QB demand hazardous-work pay.

Whatever the cause, Pioli and Dunn canít agree on Casselís worth. The rumor around the Loch Lloyd golf course is the Cassels are renting, not buying.

Can you really blame them in this economy and with a fickle housing market?

But whom should we blame for this expensive experiment?

As of right now, Cassel is scheduled to earn nearly $15 million for the 2009 season. Thatís his franchise-tag number.

Had we known in February that Cassel would cost $15 million and a second-round pick for one season of play, would we still regard his acquisition as a wise move?

Of course, if he plays lights-out and proves that his one good, Randy Moss-Wes Welker-fueled season was no fluke, no one will complain about the acquisition price and no one will care what the Chiefs have to pay next season to keep him.

The problem is, I just canít imagine him putting together a magnificent or even solid season in 2009.

Tony Gonzalez is gone. Larry Johnson is still here. Brian Waters is somewhere brooding. The Chiefs drafted a bunch of defensive linemen.

The way Pioli has assembled offensive talent (36-year-old Bobby Engram is the big-ticket free-agent signing) makes me believe heís negotiating with Dunn and Cassel.

No offense to Cassel, but heís a college and NFL bench-warmer who had the luxury of playing quarterback alongside the greatest offensive force (Moss) the league has seen since Jim Brown.

Last season Cassel stepped into a moving vehicle and did a good job of not running off the road. Kansas Cityís offense has been stuck in neutral since Dick Vermeil left. And now the one reliable tire left on KCís car moved to Atlanta.

This smells like 15 TDs and 20 interceptions, doesnít it? Or maybe seven TDs, 12 interceptions and a season-ending injury halfway through the season.

Itís not even June, and I can already hear the Tyler Thigpen chants in the distance. By October, the talk-radio shows will be filled with Grbac-Gannon analogies.

The official Vegas over-under line on when Iíll write my first Jeff George column is Oct. 3. Iím playing the under if you must know.

For the record, my official position is Iíd prefer to see the Chiefs draft and develop a quarterback. The Chiefs keep trying to convert backups ó even Joe Montana was Steve Youngís backup in San Fran ó into Super Bowl quarterbacks.

You ever break up with a girlfriend/boyfriend, date their best friend and then complain about the same problems? Itís stupid. Itís just as stupid to keep dating the exact same quarterback.

Most backup quarterbacks are backups for a good reason. They donít marinate on the bench for eight years waiting to be discovered.

My problem with Cassel is he didnít transfer out of USC when he was stuck behind Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart. The great ones generally have massive egos that canít be satisfied riding the pine.

Man, I hope Iím wrong about this $15 million audition.





Ha!

Bronx33
10-31-2009, 02:08 PM
You could have 1 dog turd in the backyard bob and you would find a way to step in it.

BossChief
10-31-2009, 04:06 PM
TRUTH! and still was 21-12 as a starter. Cassel took over a team that went 19-1 the season before and couldn't even get them to the playoffs....


nuff said....

NE did miss the playoffs, but the reason is that they were the second team in NFL history to go 11-5 and not make the post season. So, yeah what you said was true, but to use it to defnd a side of a arguement is somewhat laughable, dont ya think?

True statement upcoming:

The oline so far, is the single worst oline unit I have seen play in the nfl, chicagos wasnt good but comparing the two is like comparing a fresh peach from Denver to one you would get in alaska that had to be picked a few weeks early so it got there before spoiling. Its like comparing simple jack to einstein. We are that bad.

There is literally a complete jailbreak at least 10 times per game and at minimum one player comes through unblocked on 80% of the plays. That is not a exaggeration at all. It really is that bad.

I am not trying to defend Cassel by saying this, I have my own reservations about him going back to last year. They played 10 of NEs games on NFL replay on NFLN so, I hve seen alot of his play that brings up questions to me, but also realize he is inexperienced and showed a fantastic work ethic that allowed him to get exponentially better throughout the year. This is why I havent worried about his play so far. If he is still playing poorly toward the end of the season, I will start to wonder if we made the right choice, but I dont see that happening.

Also, I dont realistically see Bowe as a full fledged #1 receiver, I think he has the talent of a top five talent #2 receiver. What he did in KC as the #2 option last year with poor play from the QB position is very noteworthy.

The rest of the KC receivers are 4s and 5s on good rosters, but are 2s and 3s in KC.

We have been dead set on playing LJ who is having the worst starting season for a NFL running back ever. The horrible part of that is that we are usually playing from behind and LJ cant pass block effectively and isnt a receiving back, he is a downhill runner.

If he is off the team, we are a much better offense immediately because Charles is a good receiver and pass blocker and is a every play big play threat, as are Savage and Smith (who should be off the pup list shortly, he has been practicing and supposedly loos 100%, but you know how that goes) All three have the speed to break a big run or take a catch the distance if they get in the open field.

Right now, Matt Cassel is the least of my worries on offense.

BossChief
10-31-2009, 04:19 PM
Right but both will probably lose so it is a wash.

we have also played all the teams in the NFC east already when you guys are yet to play NY and Philly, ya never know, Washington might play inspired football and beat you guys <----this is a joke of course, or is it?

Mr. Elway
10-31-2009, 04:55 PM
I will earn my stripes over time here and people will respect my posts because they will have a consistant history behind them. Right now, Im not only "a troll" but a "new troll", evidently the worst kind.

Your posts aren't all that great. You constantly make a big deal over how insightful, intelligent and non-biased you are, but in reality your takes are average at best. Plus you're a Chiefs fan, so no matter how much you suck up you automatically are somewhat of a choad.

BossChief
10-31-2009, 05:33 PM
Your posts aren't all that great. You constantly make a big deal over how insightful, intelligent and non-biased you are, but in reality your takes are average at best. Plus you're a Chiefs fan, so no matter how much you suck up you automatically are somewhat of a choad.

Thanks for the input!

gyldenlove
10-31-2009, 05:38 PM
we play all the same teams except one. You play indy, we play jaxonville.

We also play the Patriots you play Buffalo.

Missouribronc
10-31-2009, 05:41 PM
Right now, Matt Cassel is the least of my worries on offense.

I didn't read the rest of that crap, but this caught my eye. You are right about that.

The Chiefs need, in my estimation, RB, FB, 2WR, 3WR, LT, LG, C, RG, RT and TE.

Well, ****.

Bronco Rob
10-31-2009, 06:02 PM
NE did miss the playoffs, but the reason is that they were the second team in NFL history to go 11-5 and not make the post season. So, yeah what you said was true, but to use it to defnd a side of a arguement is somewhat laughable, dont ya think?


No it proves my point in fact. How on earth do you give up the 34th overall pick and 63 million dollars for a career back up QB?



Yikes!

BossChief
10-31-2009, 10:31 PM
No it proves my point in fact. How on earth do you give up the 34th overall pick and 63 million dollars for a career back up QB?



Yikes!

because of the drastic improvement he showed throughout the year.

Let me show you why:

Cassels first 6 games2008:
1095 yards
6 td
4int

Cassels last 6 games 2008
1493 yards
11 tds
4 ints

This is including the final game where he only passed 8 times because they had Buffalo beat early and basically ran every time for the last 2 1/2 quarters, if I didn't include that game and went with weeks 11-16 it shows a true amazing amount of growth for Mr. Cassel:

1815 yards
14 tds
4 ints

that is why he was traded for, because it shows he has a solid enough work ethic to improve by leaps and bounds to that degree.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00/gamelog/2008/

BossChief
10-31-2009, 10:44 PM
I didn't read the rest of that crap, but this caught my eye. You are right about that.

The Chiefs need, in my estimation, RB, FB, 2WR, 3WR, LT, LG, C, RG, RT and TE.

Well, ****.

A fine example of reading my name before reading the post!

evidently, if you would have read the rest of that "crap" you would have found out we largly agree and would have had detailed descriptions of such.

IMO, we are fine at RB and we have two good olinemen. I also only see Bowe as a very good #2, not a #1.

Circle Orange
11-01-2009, 08:12 AM
"Greatest offensive force since Jim Brown?"

*massive eye roll*

And for the record, I don't think Brady would do any better. He has less mobility than Cassel, is older and has injuries. Jury out when the team is in chaos.

Not that it matters. KC = 4-12.

azbroncfan
11-01-2009, 08:28 AM
we have also played all the teams in the NFC east already when you guys are yet to play NY and Philly, ya never know, Washington might play inspired football and beat you guys <----this is a joke of course, or is it?

Yeah Denver's schedule is brutal considering we get all the teams that KC plays plus INDY and NE instead of Jacksonville and Buffalo.

BossChief
11-02-2009, 03:23 PM
very telling thread!

Peoples Champ
11-02-2009, 03:27 PM
Yeah Denver's schedule is brutal considering we get all the teams that KC plays plus INDY and NE instead of Jacksonville and Buffalo.


ya, colts are gonna be a tough one.

Bronco Rob
11-15-2009, 03:30 PM
Rofl!

Bob's your Information Minister
07-26-2011, 09:20 AM
Winner: Matt Cassel

Peoples Champ
07-26-2011, 10:16 AM
i will laugh if the chiefs trade for Orton and make him the starter. It would be an upgrade if they decide to.

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-26-2011, 10:18 AM
Winner: Matt Cassel

Maybe as far as payday goes. No one would trade for that overpaid, overrated turd.

Bob's your Information Minister
07-26-2011, 10:45 AM
Maybe as far as payday goes. No one would trade for that overpaid, overrated turd.

Orton will probably never be a regular NFL starter ever again....

Cassel is going to have a nice career in KC.

Tombstone RJ
07-26-2011, 10:48 AM
Orton will probably never be a regular NFL starter ever again....

Cassel is going to have a nice career in KC.

yah, Cassel is gonna suck the life out of the team and then go be a back up somewhere else, earning 20% interest off of all the cash he robbed from the chefs...

Steve Sewell
07-26-2011, 11:12 AM
Orton will probably never be a regular NFL starter ever again....

Cassel is going to have a nice career in KC.

Hahaha...just just basically ruined the guys career. Congrats Bob.

Peoples Champ
07-26-2011, 11:13 AM
yah, Cassel is gonna suck the life out of the team and then go be a back up somewhere else, earning 20% interest off of all the cash he robbed from the chefs...

its funny in this thread Bob says Orton is a hero and its a mistake getting rid of him

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=94151