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PaintballCLE
08-14-2009, 08:56 PM
Hahahahahahaha

lazarus4444
08-14-2009, 09:03 PM
wow, not an impressive debut, lol.

frerottenextelway
08-14-2009, 09:15 PM
no comment.

BroncoDoug
08-14-2009, 09:15 PM
.....

Bronco Boy
08-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Get em all out of your system in preseason buddy.

UberBroncoMan
08-14-2009, 09:15 PM
At least it hasn't been 4 INT's.

SureShot
08-14-2009, 09:16 PM
He looks like Tom Brady.

Hawaii_Guy
08-14-2009, 09:17 PM
Damn he sucks..

SouthStndJunkie
08-14-2009, 09:18 PM
Orton brought down the Mane with his first INT.

spdirty
08-14-2009, 09:18 PM
Im sick of melting down. Its just funny now.

SouthStndJunkie
08-14-2009, 09:18 PM
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SureShot
08-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Orton brought down the Mane with his first INT.

It won't be the last time.

Ambiguous
08-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Looks good so far!

frerottenextelway
08-14-2009, 09:21 PM
Im sick of melting down. Its just funny now.

Same.

Ambiguous
08-14-2009, 09:21 PM
http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Kyle_Orton

Didn't take long for that to get created, lol.

521 1N5
08-14-2009, 09:37 PM
"Orton Hears a Boo"

oubronco
08-14-2009, 09:40 PM
At least it hasn't been 4 INT's.

should've been

Bob's your Information Minister
08-14-2009, 09:44 PM
Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

dbfan4life
08-14-2009, 09:46 PM
"Orton Hears a Boo"

:rofl: Count me in on the meltdown!

TheReverend
08-14-2009, 09:46 PM
"I want to upgrade my prediction to 13-3. Orton looks like Tom Brady"

Meanwhile, I want to downgrade my 3-13 prediction to 2-14.

atomicbloke
08-14-2009, 10:04 PM
Cutler sucks, because makes too many mistakes and throws too many INTs. Especially red zone INTs.

BowlenBall
08-14-2009, 10:09 PM
"Orton Hears a Boo"

LLOL -- literally laughing out loud. That should be the sports headline in every newspaper across the nation....

watermock
08-14-2009, 10:11 PM
He doesn't even have BM to stare down....

maher_tyler
08-14-2009, 10:19 PM
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/lombardi_trophy3.jpg

listopencil
08-14-2009, 10:20 PM
"The Immaculate Interception"

Lolad
08-14-2009, 10:22 PM
With time to throw he throws 3 picks.. But it's just preseason right? :-|

lazarus4444
08-14-2009, 10:31 PM
Yup, it's just pre-season. I'm not worried.

mhgaffney
08-14-2009, 10:33 PM
Gonna be a long season -- I'm afraid...

Pseudofool
08-14-2009, 10:39 PM
Look, I'm fine with Orton testing his limits and seeing what he can get away with in a preseason game. I'll be interest to see how he and the scheme adjust, and I'll reserve judgment until the games count.

OABB
08-14-2009, 10:39 PM
I wonder if Patrick Ramsey is still available.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-14-2009, 10:42 PM
You guys have nothing to worry about. I laugh now, but it won't last. Orton didn't suddenly turn into a turnover-prone moron just because he switched jerseys. I think only one of those was a truly lousy throw - Bly's INT. The other one, his reaction sort of looked like the receiver didn't run his route correctly. The end zone pick just looked like he was trying too hard.

Chris Simms isn't a better quarterback than Orton. Just relax.

But it's pretty clear he's not gonna throw 25 touchdowns. :~ohyah!:

Ambiguous
08-14-2009, 10:43 PM
Look, I'm fine with Orton testing his limits and seeing what he can get away with in a preseason game. I'll be interest to see how he and the scheme adjust, and I'll reserve judgment until the games count.

You don't throw a pick on three out of four drives by "testing your limits". We have a problem here.

SureShot
08-14-2009, 10:43 PM
You guys have nothing to worry about. I laugh now, but it won't last. Orton didn't suddenly turn into a turnover-prone moron just because he switched jerseys. I think only one of those was a truly lousy throw - Bly's INT. The other one, his reaction sort of looked like the receiver didn't run his route correctly. The end zone pick just looked like he was trying too hard.

Chris Simms isn't a better quarterback than Orton. Just relax.

But it's pretty clear he's not gonna throw 25 touchdowns. :~ohyah!:

Your timing is impecable

RaiderH8r
08-14-2009, 10:52 PM
Look, I'm fine with Orton testing his limits and seeing what he can get away with in a preseason game. I'll be interest to see how he and the scheme adjust, and I'll reserve judgment until the games count.

Testing his limits? He was tossing whiffle balls out there. Christ, if the receiver wasn't wide open Aborton couldn't make a play happen with his feet or his arm. All of this was against milquetoast bread and butter base defense. Jesus Christ when teams gameplan ABorton and account for the fact he can't throw more than 15 yards downfield our offense is going to be f'd like a stray dog in Chinatown. But yeah, it sure is nice to have a pro bowl QB with a once in a generation shoulder cannon off our club because he pouted.

Aborton was painful. He was exactly what was to be expected and I'm going to go throw up now.

DarkHorse30
08-14-2009, 10:53 PM
Bad game for Orton. Obviously.

Orton had a great opportunity on that first pick to hit Hillis on an out, but waited and threw into coverage, behind his guy.

The second pick was also bad, throwing to the wrong side of Stokely.

The third pick was the worst, because his guy was wide open and he couldn't arc it in. That one reminded me of Vince Young's lame throw in the HOF game.

As for the defense, they look better, but still a bit confused at times.

SureShot
08-14-2009, 10:53 PM
Testing his limits? He was tossing whiffle balls out there. Christ, if the receiver wasn't wide open Aborton couldn't make a play happen with his feet or his arm. All of this was against milquetoast bread and butter base defense. Jesus Christ when teams gameplan ABorton and account for the fact he can't throw more than 15 yards downfield our offense is going to be f'd like a stray dog in Chinatown. But yeah, it sure is nice to have a pro bowl QB with a once in a generation shoulder cannon off our club because he pouted.

Aborton was painful. He was exactly what was to be expected and I'm going to go throw up now.

So you didn't like KO's performance?

Cito Pelon
08-14-2009, 10:54 PM
Many Bronco fans revel in seeing the team not do well. Sheesh.

Archer81
08-14-2009, 10:55 PM
Wow...suicide watch for a preseason game...


:Broncos:

RaiderH8r
08-14-2009, 10:58 PM
Many Bronco fans revel in seeing the team not do well. Sheesh.

Check my post history. I'm right about Aborton and McKid. I don't want to be right, I don't like being right, I'd like to be very wrong. Just like a dr. telling a patient they're terminal, it is no fun but that doesn't make them wrong just because it is something nobody wants to hear.

Aborton has a rubber arm, a slow releast, and a dimwitted aspect about him. I'm not sure I'd trust him to bag my f'ing groceries properly.

Is Jake still available? Maybe he'd like to come play and stick it in Shanny's craw?

ScottXray
08-14-2009, 11:12 PM
Orton had a bad night , and based on this game Simms should start.

However , lets see what happens in another 2 weeks.
If Orton stinks it up next week with the starters you have to give Simms his shot with them, rather thaan 2nd and third string scrubs.

My guess is Orton does better next week, but if he throws another two picks we'll see Simms as the starter for game three I would guess.

At any rate it was obvious McD was NOT happy with the play of Orton.

The pick Simms threw on the 2 pointer at the end was icing...it's going to be a LONG flight back to denver .....and next week the camp is going to be much more serious...Compared to shannys camps. Not sure how much more intense he can make it.

DBroncos4life
08-14-2009, 11:13 PM
I hope the ground jumps in front of our QBs throws.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-14-2009, 11:13 PM
heh heh

Eisen: "Pretty entertaining game...except I'm sure Kyle Orton and all his fans wouldn't agree with that."

Dukes: "You put that as plural for some reason."

Eisen: "Oh, c'mon now...alot of Broncos are rooting for him since they believe he's their guy."

Dukes: "And which Broncos believe he's their guy?"

Eisen: "Well...Josh McDaniels does, let's put it that way."

Dukes: "Oh yeah, their coach."

rastaman
08-14-2009, 11:15 PM
Look, I'm fine with Orton testing his limits and seeing what he can get away with in a preseason game. I'll be interest to see how he and the scheme adjust, and I'll reserve judgment until the games count.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE........YES WE CAN......IT AIN'T OVER UNTIL THE FAT HOE SINGS. :thanku:

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2009, 11:18 PM
You know what's funny? After the 2nd, I just smirked and wondered what the reaction here would be. This is going to be a looooooooong season.

Like I said, anybody who says we win more than 5 games is delusional.

Rock Chalk
08-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Well, one thing that is predictable, overreaction on the mane to a pre-season game.

Orton certainly didn't look great out there on 3 passes, there is no denying that. It IS just pre-season and well, I can't image it will get any worse.

I'm still more concerned with the defense. SF isnt world beaters on offense and they still gashed us more times than I cared to see.

There were some bright spots. I thought Alphonso Smith looked really good, as did McKinley.

rastaman
08-14-2009, 11:19 PM
Many Bronco fans revel in seeing the team not do well. Sheesh.

It is what it is!!! Why don't you click your heels twice and return to OZ.....Dorothy is waiting for ya!:sunshine:

rastaman
08-14-2009, 11:21 PM
Well, one thing that is predictable, overreaction on the mane to a pre-season game.

Orton certainly didn't look great out there on 3 passes, there is no denying that. It IS just pre-season and well, I can't image it will get any worse.

I'm still more concerned with the defense. SF isnt world beaters on offense and they still gashed us more times than I cared to see.

There were some bright spots. I thought Alphonso Smith looked really good, as did McKinley.

I'm calling it! Looks like we gotta 4 win season brewing!!! When was the last time the Broncos only won 4 games?????:sunshine:

Archer81
08-14-2009, 11:22 PM
It is what it is!!! Why don't you click your heels twice and return to OZ.....Dorothy is waiting for ya!:sunshine:


Hello, kettle.


:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
08-14-2009, 11:22 PM
Well, one thing that is predictable, overreaction on the mane to a pre-season game.

Orton certainly didn't look great out there on 3 passes, there is no denying that. It IS just pre-season and well, I can't image it will get any worse.

I'm still more concerned with the defense. SF isnt world beaters on offense and they still gashed us more times than I cared to see.

There were some bright spots. I thought Alphonso Smith looked really good, as did McKinley.

dude the guy threw 16 passes vs the first team D and 3 got picked off. We can sugar coat this all we want but his career INT% is as high as Cutlers.

Killericon
08-14-2009, 11:38 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UYl4EeW8xVg/SIvUYh1xEQI/AAAAAAAADSA/atmZ_cNzmRM/s400/DerekAnderson.jpg

Get it done, McXanders!

...I'd still rather have Orton than Cassell at $10 Million per.

Cito Pelon
08-14-2009, 11:38 PM
Check my post history. I'm right about Aborton and McKid. I don't want to be right, I don't like being right, I'd like to be very wrong. Just like a dr. telling a patient they're terminal, it is no fun but that doesn't make them wrong just because it is something nobody wants to hear.

Aborton has a rubber arm, a slow releast, and a dimwitted aspect about him. I'm not sure I'd trust him to bag my f'ing groceries properly.

Is Jake still available? Maybe he'd like to come play and stick it in Shanny's craw?

It's like there's a sense of triumph that the team didn't do well.

RaiderH8r
08-14-2009, 11:40 PM
dude the guy threw 16 passes vs the first team D and 3 got picked off. We can sugar coat this all we want but his career INT% is as high as Cutlers.

With none of the upside.

DBroncos4life
08-14-2009, 11:42 PM
With none of the upside.

I want Kitna or Farve.

RaiderH8r
08-14-2009, 11:46 PM
It's like there's a sense of triumph that the team didn't do well.
Whatever. That's horse**** and you know it. If McKid can prove me wrong then he deserves his position and all the accolades that come with being the guy that traded a stud for a pud and made it work. I just don't think McKid's got it in him and it will be a long, dark road of FAIL before Bowlen sends this slapdick packing. I'm a very dour Bronco fan right now.

baja
08-14-2009, 11:49 PM
i'm more concerned about about our rookie running back, I thought he should have been worked in slowly.

BigPlayShay
08-14-2009, 11:51 PM
Portis fumbled 3 times in a pre-season game once.

Cassel was on the verge of being cut last pre-season.

I'll exercise a little bit of patience with Orton.

Harvitz81
08-14-2009, 11:53 PM
Anyone that thinks Simms should start after tonight's game needs to understand that they were running two completely different offenses out there. When Orton was in they would line up 4 WR's wide, followed by a 2 TE, 2 WR set, followed by many other formations. He was running McDaniel's complicated offense and understandably there is still a lot left to be learned.

When Simms was in they ran basically the same formation the whole time and I bet the playcalling was much simpler. It was much more vanilla. He also was playing against the 2nd-3rd team.

Look, I'm not saying that Orton didn't play terribly, because he obviously was struggling out there. But anyone thinking that Simms should start after this needs to look at the difference between the offensive playcalling between them.

ton80
08-14-2009, 11:53 PM
It's like there's a sense of triumph that the team didn't do well.

Yep. Lots of mopes on this forum are relishing in victory.

Not sure if picks one and two can in any way be attributed to a new offense. But Orton threw to the wrong side of the receiver on the 1st two interceptions again to Stokley on an incompletion.

Orton has a history of playing pretty conservatively and not throwing lots of interceptions. I wouldn't expect that to change much, especially during the regular season when it will be his job to protect the ball and simply run the offense.

Popps
08-15-2009, 12:07 AM
Yep. Lots of mopes on this forum are relishing in victory.
.

Not a surprise. You've got a strong contingent of fans around here who want nothing more than for the new admin and QB to fail so they can be right.

Shouldn't be any surprise that they're throwing a party right now.


As for Orton, he looked good... then he looked really bad. I think if he doesn't throw the first pick, he probably never throws the 2nd two. He looked very tentative after the first mistake. Too bad, because he drove us down to what should have been an easy punch-in.

He's got to learn this offense and play with confidence. Mistakes will happen, and this is the place to get them out of your system. If he's doing this in game 3, I'll be more concerned. Right now, he looked jittery... and like a guy who's still learning the system.

I'm not panicking, either way. This season is about getting all aspects of this team to improve. (Scoring, defense, special teams.) One half of pre-season play isn't going to convince me of much either way.

Saw some good, bad... and ugly.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2009, 12:08 AM
Orton had a bad night , and based on this game Simms should start.

However , lets see what happens in another 2 weeks.
If Orton stinks it up next week with the starters you have to give Simms his shot with them, rather thaan 2nd and third string scrubs.

My guess is Orton does better next week, but if he throws another two picks we'll see Simms as the starter for game three I would guess.

At any rate it was obvious McD was NOT happy with the play of Orton.

The pick Simms threw on the 2 pointer at the end was icing...it's going to be a LONG flight back to denver .....and next week the camp is going to be much more serious...Compared to shannys camps. Not sure how much more intense he can make it.

Nobody was, not just McD. Orton stood up like a man in the locker room after the game and interviewed with Reggie Rivers, but he looked crushed. He's gonna have to show some backbone to be the QB this year.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:09 AM
Many Bronco fans revel in seeing the team not do well. Sheesh.

Yo Cito, sometimes eternal optimism is depressing you ****ing jackass....wake up and smell the reality....

kamakazi_kal
08-15-2009, 12:09 AM
i'm more concerned about about our rookie running back, I thought he should have been worked in slowly.

"rookie" "coach"

TheDave
08-15-2009, 12:12 AM
Not a surprise. You've got a strong contingent of fans around here who want nothing more than for the new admin and QB to fail so they can be right.

Shouldn't be any surprise that they're throwing a party right now.


As for Orton, he looked good... then he looked really bad. I think if he doesn't throw the first pick, he probably never throws the 2nd two. He looked very tentative after the first mistake. Too bad, because he drove us down to what should have been an easy punch-in.

He's got to learn this offense and play with confidence. Mistakes will happen, and this is the place to get them out of your system. If he's doing this in game 3, I'll be more concerned. Right now, he looked jittery... and like a guy who's still learning the system.

I'm not panicking, either way. This season is about getting all aspects of this team to improve. (Scoring, defense, special teams.) One half of pre-season play isn't going to convince me of much either way.

Saw some good, bad... and ugly.

Sorry boss... but you can't sugar coat 3 picks out of 15 passes. This has nothing to do with "fans around here who want nothing more than for the new admin and QB to fail so they can be right". Our starting QB looked like dog **** tonight.

kamakazi_kal
08-15-2009, 12:12 AM
Not a surprise. You've got a strong contingent of fans around here who want nothing more than for the new admin and QB to fail so they can be right.

Shouldn't be any surprise that they're throwing a party right now.


As for Orton, he looked good... then he looked really bad. I think if he doesn't throw the first pick, he probably never throws the 2nd two. He looked very tentative after the first mistake. Too bad, because he drove us down to what should have been an easy punch-in.

He's got to learn this offense and play with confidence. Mistakes will happen, and this is the place to get them out of your system. If he's doing this in game 3, I'll be more concerned. Right now, he looked jittery... and like a guy who's still learning the system.

I'm not panicking, either way. This season is about getting all aspects of this team to improve. (Scoring, defense, special teams.) One half of pre-season play isn't going to convince me of much either way.

Saw some good, bad... and ugly.

excercise your right ....... I don't think I even saw Orton throw one pass over & yards......Defense played well ...... 3 picks in 5 possessions ....... where's the "magic" system.......

Not that preseason means much.

Popps
08-15-2009, 12:13 AM
Nobody was, not just McD. Orton stood up like a man in the locker room after the game and interviewed with Reggie Rivers, but he looked crushed. He's gonna have to show some backbone to be the QB this year.

Agree.

The announcers were right. There is a ton of pressure on him, legitimately or not. (Funny that a crappy, 7-9 team last year suddenly has huge pressure on a new QB in a new system.)

At any rate, the situation is what it is. If Orton makes it through this and comes out the other side, he'll be stronger for it.

I'm pulling for him, even though I realize a lot of people around here are not.

DBroncos4life
08-15-2009, 12:15 AM
Not a surprise. You've got a strong contingent of fans around here who want nothing more than for the new admin and QB to fail so they can be right.

Shouldn't be any surprise that they're throwing a party right now.


As for Orton, he looked good... then he looked really bad. I think if he doesn't throw the first pick, he probably never throws the 2nd two. He looked very tentative after the first mistake. Too bad, because he drove us down to what should have been an easy punch-in.

He's got to learn this offense and play with confidence. Mistakes will happen, and this is the place to get them out of your system. If he's doing this in game 3, I'll be more concerned. Right now, he looked jittery... and like a guy who's still learning the system.

I'm not panicking, either way. This season is about getting all aspects of this team to improve. (Scoring, defense, special teams.) One half of pre-season play isn't going to convince me of much either way.

Saw some good, bad... and ugly.

I doubt Jay Cutler throws three picks in 19 passes with the Bears....

hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:16 AM
Anyone that thinks Simms should start after tonight's game needs to understand that they were running two completely different offenses out there. When Orton was in they would line up 4 WR's wide, followed by a 2 TE, 2 WR set, followed by many other formations. He was running McDaniel's complicated offense and understandably there is still a lot left to be learned.

When Simms was in they ran basically the same formation the whole time and I bet the playcalling was much simpler. It was much more vanilla. He also was playing against the 2nd-3rd team.

Look, I'm not saying that Orton didn't play terribly, because he obviously was struggling out there. But anyone thinking that Simms should start after this needs to look at the difference between the offensive playcalling between them.

Hey Stanley (Cheap Power Tool). McDaniels was trying to win the game. He adjusted the offense for the change of QB...just like it happens in a real game....in case you've never watched football before with any level of detail...that ALWAYS happens....

SureShot
08-15-2009, 12:16 AM
Agree.

The announcers were right. There is a ton of pressure on him, legitimately or not. (Funny that a crappy, 7-9 team last year suddenly has huge pressure on a new QB in a new system.)

At any rate, the situation is what it is. If Orton makes it through this and comes out the other side, he'll be stronger for it.

I'm pulling for him, even though I realize a lot of people around here are not.

Popps always fighting the good fight. I just hope you dont run out of lipstick for that pig.

kamakazi_kal
08-15-2009, 12:17 AM
agree.

The announcers were right. There is a ton of pressure on him, legitimately or not. (funny that a crappy, 7-9 team last year suddenly has huge pressure on a new qb in a new system.)

at any rate, the situation is what it is. If orton makes it through this and comes out the other side, he'll be stronger for it.

I'm pulling for him, even though i realize a lot of people around here are not.

he"s average .....

Cito Pelon
08-15-2009, 12:18 AM
Anyone that thinks Simms should start after tonight's game needs to understand that they were running two completely different offenses out there. When Orton was in they would line up 4 WR's wide, followed by a 2 TE, 2 WR set, followed by many other formations. He was running McDaniel's complicated offense and understandably there is still a lot left to be learned.

When Simms was in they ran basically the same formation the whole time and I bet the playcalling was much simpler. It was much more vanilla. He also was playing against the 2nd-3rd team.

Look, I'm not saying that Orton didn't play terribly, because he obviously was struggling out there. But anyone thinking that Simms should start after this needs to look at the difference between the offensive playcalling between them.

That's a good take on the situation, we'll see how it pans out over the next few weeks.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:22 AM
Not a surprise. You've got a strong contingent of fans around here who want nothing more than for the new admin and QB to fail so they can be right.

Shouldn't be any surprise that they're throwing a party right now.


As for Orton, he looked good... then he looked really bad. I think if he doesn't throw the first pick, he probably never throws the 2nd two. He looked very tentative after the first mistake. Too bad, because he drove us down to what should have been an easy punch-in.

He's got to learn this offense and play with confidence. Mistakes will happen, and this is the place to get them out of your system. If he's doing this in game 3, I'll be more concerned. Right now, he looked jittery... and like a guy who's still learning the system.

I'm not panicking, either way. This season is about getting all aspects of this team to improve. (Scoring, defense, special teams.) One half of pre-season play isn't going to convince me of much either way.

Saw some good, bad... and ugly.

As usual, you rally your troops. Very few of the people on the OM want the Broncos to do poorly. However, there is always going to be a certain amount of solace in proving your jackass wrong. Ultimately, as you read through hundreds if not thousands of post where you call people "less fans than Popps" because they don't agree with you....if you EVER find objectivity, you'll realize what the fans out side of you and your ignorant mignons believe.

BlaK-Argentina
08-15-2009, 12:22 AM
Agree.

The announcers were right. There is a ton of pressure on him, legitimately or not. (Funny that a crappy, 7-9 team last year suddenly has huge pressure on a new QB in a new system.)

At any rate, the situation is what it is. If Orton makes it through this and comes out the other side, he'll be stronger for it.

I'm pulling for him, even though I realize a lot of people around here are not.

Orton's performance is not nearly as disturbing as the reaction of some of the people here.

Dudeskey
08-15-2009, 12:24 AM
Orton's performance is not nearly as disturbing as the reaction of some of the people here.

Personally I'm laughing my ass off @ the reactions on this board...™http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

DBroncos4life
08-15-2009, 12:25 AM
Anyone that thinks Simms should start after tonight's game needs to understand that they were running two completely different offenses out there. When Orton was in they would line up 4 WR's wide, followed by a 2 TE, 2 WR set, followed by many other formations. He was running McDaniel's complicated offense and understandably there is still a lot left to be learned.

When Simms was in they ran basically the same formation the whole time and I bet the playcalling was much simpler. It was much more vanilla. He also was playing against the 2nd-3rd team.

Look, I'm not saying that Orton didn't play terribly, because he obviously was struggling out there. But anyone thinking that Simms should start after this needs to look at the difference between the offensive playcalling between them.
I brought up his stats when he was in multiple sets with the Bears and out of the gun and they all sucked. He is better out of the single back.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:25 AM
Orton's performance is not nearly as disturbing as the reaction of some of the people here.

It's disturbing that you don't recognize how disturbing Orton's decisions were. 1 of them might have been a "team" problem"

montrose
08-15-2009, 12:25 AM
Orton's performance is not nearly as disturbing as the reaction of some of the people here.

Oskie and I were talking about that watching the game tonight. After reading through, I don't get the sense that many on the Mane would be upset if Orton had played well - but it does seem as though many feel vindicated for their frusturations. There are a few, a few, that seem downright happy.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2009, 12:26 AM
Yo Cito, sometimes eternal optimism is depressing you ****ing jackass....wake up and smell the reality....

Eternal pessimism is depressing. Eternal optimism just pisses people off, it's not depressing. It's too early for the eternal pessimism I see around here.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:31 AM
Eternal pessimism is depressing. Eternal optimism just pisses people off, it's not depressing. It's too early for the eternal pessimism I see around here.

Realism isn't Pessimistic. Check it out.....

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/realist

There is a happy medium between your position and pessimism. The idea might help you not waste your time telling everyone here that doesn't agree with you, that they're bitter.

footstepsfrom#27
08-15-2009, 12:33 AM
i'm more concerned about about our rookie running back, I thought he should have been worked in slowly.
Same here...I said so on the Moreno/yardage thread before the game started. I didn't understand why he had to play tonight...still don't. If it turns out he's done for the year or even a few weeks, it will open up a whole lot of 2nd guessing in here.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2009, 12:40 AM
As usual, you rally your troops. Very few of the people on the OM want the Broncos to do poorly. However, there is always going to be a certain amount of solace in proving your jackass wrong. Ultimately, as you read through hundreds if not thousands of post where you call people "less fans than Popps" because they don't agree with you....if you EVER find objectivity, you'll realize what the fans out side of you and your ignorant mignons believe.

Relax, hambone. Dude said "good, bad, and UGLY."

Signed,

ignorant mignon.

*BTW, that's one of the most greatest malaprops I've ever seen. "Mignon" substituted for "minion". Man, that's great. I'm a mignon.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2009, 12:44 AM
Realism isn't Pessimistic. Check it out.....

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/realist

There is a happy medium between your position and pessimism. The idea might help you not waste your time telling everyone here that doesn't agree with you, that they're bitter.

But I'm not an eternal optimist.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 12:50 AM
Filet Minion! MMMMM!

ROFL!

kamakazi_kal
08-15-2009, 12:55 AM
Filet Minion! MMMMM!

ROFL!

shut up .... thickness .... I may not like where my team is at but, I may not like you a whole lot more.

chiefs
chargers
raiders
.... can all still

fucxk off.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:57 AM
Thin pieces of tender meat seams appropriate....

SureShot
08-15-2009, 12:58 AM
I think this is fitting for Orton.

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hambone13
08-15-2009, 12:59 AM
*BTW, that's one of the most greatest malaprops I've ever seen. "Mignon" substituted for "minion". Man, that's great. I'm a mignon.[/QUOTE]

Thin pieces of tender meat seems appropriate!

I'm obviously posting challenged...I'll bring my yellow helmet next time....

Broncos4tw
08-15-2009, 01:02 AM
*shrug* He is about what I expected him to be, perhaps a bit worse. He is an average to below average QB. We traded a franchise QB for a lame duck. But people were "ok" with this, because apparently, McD is a kid genius. Whatever.

Our # 2 offense was completely dismantled. Brilliant. But at least we can now have a NE offense! That means it's all good, obviously.

Orton blew chunks like I thought he might. No big surprise here. He may improve next game to average #'s. He won't stun anyone. He won't carry the team on his shoulders. This is not being anti-Bronco, this is being a realist.

This is the reality check: Until we get a new QB, we will not be in the SB, guaranteed. None of our current QBs can get us there and then win it.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 01:04 AM
*shrug* He is about what I expected him to be, perhaps a bit worse. He is an average to below average QB. We traded a franchise QB for a lame duck. But people were "ok" with this, because apparently, McD is a kid genius. Whatever.

Our # 2 offense was completely dismantled. Brilliant. But at least we can now have a NE offense! That means it's all good, obviously.

Orton blew chunks like I thought he might. No big surprise here. He may improve next game to average #'s. He won't stun anyone. He won't carry the team on his shoulders. This is not being anti-Bronco, this is being a realist.

This is the reality check: Until we get a new QB, we will not be in the SB, guaranteed. None of our current QBs can get us there and then win it.

It's possible that we can win games with a game manager....but not one that makes ****ty decisions...that's all I'm saying.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2009, 01:06 AM
*BTW, that's one of the most greatest malaprops I've ever seen. "Mignon" substituted for "minion". Man, that's great. I'm a mignon.

Thin pieces of tender meat seems appropriate!

I'm obviously posting challenged...I'll bring my yellow helmet next time....[/QUOTE]

After I posted that, I was sorry I brought it up. I was hoping it would slide through.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 01:09 AM
ROFL....I'm not sure who should be feel'n more retarded right now but I appreciate your comedy!

BowlenBall
08-15-2009, 01:11 AM
*BTW, that's one of the most greatest malaprops I've ever seen. "Mignon" substituted for "minion". Man, that's great. I'm a mignon.


Best malaprop ever from someone named "Hambone13", that's for sure...

Got your new avatar right here....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CEcTcgP2UKM/Skv9uNAFjJI/AAAAAAAAAHs/Zz7ndRHuVtU/s320/PigBurger.jpg
Hambone13's Ignorant Mignons

Broncos4tw
08-15-2009, 01:11 AM
A game manager? Please. If you want a game manager and also to win the SB, you need a stellar defense. Which we do not have. You can't base our performance against an anemic SF team. We should have absolutely crushed them. Orton didn't manage crap. Unless it was some super-secret scheme to give up the ball on every drive.

hambone13
08-15-2009, 01:14 AM
Best malaprop ever from someone named "Hambone13", that's for sure...

Got your new avatar right here....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CEcTcgP2UKM/Skv9uNAFjJI/AAAAAAAAAHs/Zz7ndRHuVtU/s320/PigBurger.jpg
Hambone13's Ignorant Mignons

I'm pretty sure you're as lost as you should be on this thread. Cause I was never that clever.....It could be argued that I suck at spelling words with French origins....

BowlenBall
08-15-2009, 01:37 AM
I'm pretty sure you're as lost as you should be on this thread. Cause I was never that clever.....It could be argued that I suck at spelling words with French origins....

Just thought it was a funny typo, that's all. Don't worry, it happens to all of us from time to time.

By the way, "ignorant mignons", "evil mignons", "ignorant meat", "evil meat", and "bad mignons" don't come up with anything useful on Google image search.

"Bad meat", on the other hand.... well, just don't try it. Some things, once seen, can never be unseen....

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 02:23 AM
Spaghetti pig!

DBroncos4life
08-15-2009, 02:29 AM
Spaghetti pig!

McD was able to turn Cassell into a 60 million QB though. You must be feeling great about that.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-15-2009, 02:35 AM
McD was able to turn Cassell into a 60 million QB though. You must be feeling great about that.

I'll start feeling bad about it when Cassel throws 3 interceptions in 16 passes.

I'll start feeling bad about it when Orton signs that kind of deal with the Broncos.

I'll start feeling bad about it when our starting quarterback is the butt of all the jokes from fans of his own team.

slyinky
08-15-2009, 03:06 AM
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DBroncos4life
08-15-2009, 03:14 AM
I'll start feeling bad about it when Cassel throws 3 interceptions in 16 passes.

I'll start feeling bad about it when Orton signs that kind of deal with the Broncos.

I'll start feeling bad about it when our starting quarterback is the butt of all the jokes from fans of his own team.

I tend to get upset when other teams waste cap money too.

Punisher
08-15-2009, 07:54 AM
Orton will get better game by game.

broncogary
08-15-2009, 08:05 AM
Orton will get better game by game.

After last night, he's got a lot of upside. :P

Punisher
08-15-2009, 08:12 AM
After last night, he's got a lot of upside. :P

McD and Orton will look over the film and he'll get better trust me :)

Plus he look good in every drive besides the INTs :thumbsup:

Broncos4tw
08-15-2009, 08:14 AM
Well, to be honest, he shouldn't need to "get better." It's not like he is a rookie, he is an NFL QB with experience under his belt already. It wasn't accuracy that was the issue really, it was his vision. It's like he had tunnel vision and didn't see those defenders, which worries me. And from the first drive, my brother and I looked at each and said "Griese." He is Griese model 2.0, with short, accurate passes. Should be a hoot to watch this year.

RaiderH8r
08-15-2009, 09:12 AM
Agree.

The announcers were right. There is a ton of pressure on him, legitimately or not. (Funny that a crappy, 7-9 team last year suddenly has huge pressure on a new QB in a new system.)

At any rate, the situation is what it is. If Orton makes it through this and comes out the other side, he'll be stronger for it.

I'm pulling for him, even though I realize a lot of people around here are not.

That's because we sent a stud QB packing for this chump. His problem wasn't the complicated system, it wasn't his blocking, it was his limp wristed whiffle toss of FAIL. Aborton is exactly who we thought he was. The whole damned world outside of the McKid Nuthugger Support Group sees this and knows we sent rare talent packing in a managerial temper tantrum the likes of which are usually reserved for the Raiders making the Broncos the laughing stock of the AFC West and all of that was further confirmed last night. I hate McKid for what he's done to this proud franchise. I want what is best for the franchise and Aborton for Cutler was the opposite of that.

I too am pulling for Orton but, let's face it, there are too many throws he can't make on the field. He can't make plays with his arm, he can't make plays with his feet. We traded a Pro Bowl QB for a stopgap QB and that is the acme of f'ing stupidity.

On the upside Hillis continues to impress.

Dr. Broncenstein
08-15-2009, 09:14 AM
"Orton Hears a Boo"

Holy **** that is funny.... :notworthy

Bronco Yoda
08-15-2009, 01:12 PM
And so, all didn't end well for both Orton and Who's, and for all in the jungle, even kangaroos. So let that be a lesson to one and to all; a person is a person, no matter how small. But if You're a QB crapping down your leg , then don't touch our ball...

Pontius Pirate
08-15-2009, 04:40 PM
Bring back Jake Plummer

PaintballCLE
08-15-2009, 09:52 PM
Bring back Jake Plummer

biggest mistake in broncos history....firing jake the snake

Dr. Broncenstein
08-15-2009, 10:31 PM
biggest mistake in broncos history....firing jake the snake

Last time I checked, Jake walked...

Be that as it may, I miss the days of the Jake Plummer era. I liked winning.

ORANGEJARHEAD
08-15-2009, 10:38 PM
have to agree...bring back jake

db56
08-15-2009, 10:49 PM
Orton looked a lot like T. Brady his first few games in the Patriot offense, not saying he will ever be Brady of course, but give him some time to learn McD's system and get comfortable.

the picks were more bad decisions rather than lack of arms strength, forcing the intermediate throws instead of taking the wide open check down, except the last one, he just didnt get enough air under it.

Dr. Broncenstein
08-15-2009, 10:55 PM
Orton looked a lot like T. Brady his first few games in the Patriot offense, not saying he will ever be Brady of course, but give him some time to learn McD's system and get comfortable.

the picks were more bad decisions rather than lack of arms strength, forcing the intermediate throws instead of taking the wide open check down, except the last one, he just didnt get enough air under it.

"Looked like Brady" has to be the new OrangeMane meme.

baja
08-16-2009, 01:38 AM
Or you could say, "He could Bradyize in our offense."

Archer81
08-16-2009, 01:46 AM
You know theoretically a Browns QB could be the Broncos QB next year...since we have a Tom already...might as well get a Brady...ya know...just sayin.


:Broncos:

Hawaii_Guy
08-16-2009, 01:49 AM
Orton Sucks.. I want anyone but him!!

Archer81
08-16-2009, 01:52 AM
Orton Sucks.. I want anyone but him!!


Thinking like that got Obama elected...

This is going to be an interesting season, my expectations for the offense are not extreme, regardless of who the QB is.

:Broncos:

gyldenlove
08-16-2009, 02:08 AM
When you have 3 more interceptions than the combined 49ers QBing staff, that is an achievement, but hey at least we got rid of that risktaking QB who throws interceptions in the red zone.....

Hulamau
08-16-2009, 03:22 AM
When you have 3 more interceptions than the combined 49ers QBing staff, that is an achievement, but hey at least we got rid of that risktaking QB who throws interceptions in the red zone.....

You mean that one that threw two sure picks on consecutive back to back passes last night in 5 of 10 passing overall, while mostly locking-on to one WR as usual?

I say why not give both QBs a fair chance to get used to their new teams before throwing stones and pining away at what might have been! This is a long season and knee jerk reactions now are just silly. Enjoy the ride!

colonelbeef
08-16-2009, 06:39 PM
That's because we sent a stud QB packing for this chump. His problem wasn't the complicated system, it wasn't his blocking, it was his limp wristed whiffle toss of FAIL. Aborton is exactly who we thought he was. The whole damned world outside of the McKid Nuthugger Support Group sees this and knows we sent rare talent packing in a managerial temper tantrum the likes of which are usually reserved for the Raiders making the Broncos the laughing stock of the AFC West and all of that was further confirmed last night. I hate McKid for what he's done to this proud franchise. I want what is best for the franchise and Aborton for Cutler was the opposite of that.

I too am pulling for Orton but, let's face it, there are too many throws he can't make on the field. He can't make plays with his arm, he can't make plays with his feet. We traded a Pro Bowl QB for a stopgap QB and that is the acme of f'ing stupidity.

On the upside Hillis continues to impress.

How are people not able to at least acknowledge what half of the fanbase and 99% of the football watching world already see as plain fact? Your position is the obviously, glaringly correct one, yet people still choose to look with closed eyes... don't get it.

Popps
08-16-2009, 07:41 PM
That's because we sent a stud QB packing for this chump. .

Wow, your first sentence and already so full of ugly fail.

First off, we didn't "send Cutler packing." He actually packed his bags long before he was traded, selling his homes and demanding a trade after refusing not to talk to our staff.

Second, we didn't trade him "for" Orton. Orton was included in the trade. McDaniels didn't set out to gain Orton and lose Cutler when he got to Denver. That's just the way it worked out. We received much in the way of extra compensation along with Orton. In fact, Orton was viewed as more of a throw-in by most people. He just picked up the offense more quickly in camp than Simms.


So, you can cry and bow down to the Raiders in fear if you want. But, just don't ask hardcore, long-time fans to join you. I've seen much worse than this as a fan, and in fact... I'm very optimistic.

You keep up with the panic routine if it suits you, though.

Northman
08-16-2009, 07:45 PM
it was his limp wristed whiffle toss of FAIL. Aborton is exactly who we thought he was. .

I was going to give you a rash of **** for overreacting but after this quote i just died laughing. Thats hysterical. Ha!

Northman
08-16-2009, 07:47 PM
When you have 3 more interceptions than the combined 49ers QBing staff, that is an achievement, but hey at least we got rid of that risktaking QB who throws interceptions in the red zone.....

Yea, because lord knows he scored TD's last night for the Bears. lol

db56
08-16-2009, 09:15 PM
Orton hasnt been asked to make this many decisions since he was back at SE Polk in Altoona, Ia. Seriously, dude hasnt ever been in a pro style offense. In Chicago, I think they had R. Zook errr.. Jimmy Ray calling plays , run... run...run.. score or punt. just saying, I know he's technically not a rookie, but this offense is something he has never seen before. there is going to be some growing pains.

I think McD is handling this right, obviously he prefers Orton, he named him the starter a month ago, but I still think its open and if Simms does execute better, its not out of the realm of reality that he could win the job.

RaiderH8r
08-17-2009, 07:54 AM
Wow, your first sentence and already so full of ugly fail.

First off, we didn't "send Cutler packing." He actually packed his bags long before he was traded, selling his homes and demanding a trade after refusing not to talk to our staff.

Second, we didn't trade him "for" Orton. Orton was included in the trade. McDaniels didn't set out to gain Orton and lose Cutler when he got to Denver. That's just the way it worked out. We received much in the way of extra compensation along with Orton. In fact, Orton was viewed as more of a throw-in by most people. He just picked up the offense more quickly in camp than Simms.


So, you can cry and bow down to the Raiders in fear if you want. But, just don't ask hardcore, long-time fans to join you. I've seen much worse than this as a fan, and in fact... I'm very optimistic.

You keep up with the panic routine if it suits you, though.

Well then puff puff give. Quit bogartin' whatever it is you're smoking.

Our "compensation" for Cutler was Aborton and a second round pick (yeah, I know it was a first rounder but it didn't take the Cap'n Slapdick and McKid long to piss down their leg on that one either). McKid, Col. Xanders, and President Scroob were the adults in the room. It is their job to manage personalities and personnel but they got drug into the mire and the muck and had their judgment clouded by their own pride, ego, and rank amateurism and the franchise is going to pay dearly for that. Again, I'd love to be wrong. In the meantime Popps....puff, puff, give.

Traveler
08-17-2009, 08:11 AM
Well then puff puff give. Quit bogartin' whatever it is you're smoking.

Our "compensation" for Cutler was Aborton and a second round pick (yeah, I know it was a first rounder but it didn't take the Cap'n Slapdick and McKid long to piss down their leg on that one either). McKid, Col. Xanders, and President Scroob were the adults in the room. It is their job to manage personalities and personnel but they got drug into the mire and the muck and had their judgment clouded by their own pride, ego, and rank amateurism and the franchise is going to pay dearly for that. Again, I'd love to be wrong. In the meantime Popps....puff, puff, give.

This is all I get when reading your posts...

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii273/Papi728/CryBabyCutler.jpg


Just let it go dude!