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RhymesayersDU
08-13-2009, 09:34 PM
Anybody venturing out tonight?

I might, but probably won't. I mean I could, but I don't want to stay up all night playing, which is what will eventually happen.

But I shall be getting it tomorrow at some point. Who else is a go? And who is going on X-Box Live?

ChampBailey24
08-13-2009, 09:39 PM
I'm standing in gamestop right now (I'm on eastern time) if anyone wants to play online for 360 my gamertag is edbaker87

Bronco Boy
08-13-2009, 09:39 PM
Why don't you just get last year's version and save yourself some quiche?

Los Broncos
08-13-2009, 09:40 PM
I thought about hitting one of the marts tonight for it.

But I may want to rent it insted of forking over the big bucks.

Dr. Thunder
08-13-2009, 09:42 PM
I traded my Madden 09 and only got $2.00 for it at Gamestop. Can't wait to pick it up tomorrow but I ain't going to wait in line at midnight...:wave:

RonDaChamp24
08-13-2009, 09:43 PM
I'm beading up to gamestop right now. Have mine preordered and paid off. An will be staying up all night playing it.

maher_tyler
08-13-2009, 09:45 PM
I get off at 11 so i'll be headed to Wal-Mart soon after to pick myself up a copy!! I play on PS3..SN is Wolfpack682

RhymesayersDU
08-13-2009, 09:53 PM
Why don't you just get last year's version and save yourself some quiche?

Current rosters, obviously. I mean why else buy it? Plus for online players, most move to the newest version.

Los Broncos
08-13-2009, 09:55 PM
Current rosters, obviously. I mean why else buy it? Plus for online players, most move to the newest version.

Can't you get roster updates online?

RhymesayersDU
08-13-2009, 09:57 PM
Can't you get roster updates online?

I don't know, to be honest. If you can, I'm not aware of it.

If anybody knows about this, hook me up.

Bronco Boy
08-13-2009, 09:59 PM
The fact that people are waiting to buy a ****ty game at midnight the day it comes out makes me think our economy can't be doing all that bad.

iDENVER
08-13-2009, 10:03 PM
not to brag but i got it last week. ( i work at a flea market lol ).. my xbox gamertag is Oo Cr4bs oO

Los Broncos
08-13-2009, 10:04 PM
[QUOTE=RhymesayersDU;2504989]I don't know, to be honest. If you can, I'm not aware of it.
day


If anybody knows about this, hook me up.

http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/news/Madden_Roster_Update_17

Dr. Broncenstein
08-13-2009, 10:11 PM
Grown men waiting in a midnight line for a video game. No wonder the rest of the world hates us.

montrose
08-13-2009, 10:11 PM
I work at Best Buy and have been playing the demo for a few days - I'd venture to say it's the biggest leap the game has made in years.

maher_tyler
08-13-2009, 10:13 PM
I don't know, to be honest. If you can, I'm not aware of it.

If anybody knows about this, hook me up.

After a certain time they stop doing the updates...the last one i remember was back in January or February.

maher_tyler
08-13-2009, 10:17 PM
I work at Best Buy and have been playing the demo for a few days - I'd venture to say it's the biggest leap the game has made in years.

Is it worth the buy?? Yes or No?!

Rigs11
08-13-2009, 10:21 PM
Meh. I'm waiting for Batman Arkham Asylum.

Bronco Boy
08-13-2009, 10:34 PM
The game got a 7.5 on Gamespot. 'nuff said.

Broncobiv
08-13-2009, 10:38 PM
The fact that people are waiting to buy a ****ty game at midnight the day it comes out makes me think our economy can't be doing all that bad.
Greatest country in the world, bro...

America, **** yeah!

tsiguy96
08-13-2009, 10:39 PM
The game got a 7.5 on Gamespot. 'nuff said.

and an 8.9 on ign with the tagline "as close as youll come to playing on sundays"

nuff said

Bronco Boy
08-13-2009, 10:42 PM
IGN is Entertainment Tonight. Gamespot is CNN. And I play with myself every Sunday so their tagline is irrelevant.

KevinJames
08-13-2009, 10:53 PM
The game got a 7.5 on Gamespot. 'nuff said.

Gamespot hasn't been credible since they merged with Gamefaqs 'nuff said

RhymesayersDU
08-13-2009, 10:53 PM
After a certain time they stop doing the updates...the last one i remember was back in January or February.

Right. They update players, but for example right now I'd still have Cutler, etc, on the team. So they don't do huge roster updates. I have to buy the new one to get the new team.

RhymesayersDU
08-13-2009, 10:54 PM
IGN is Entertainment Tonight. Gamespot is CNN. And I play with myself every Sunday so their tagline is irrelevant.

I bet if the Cutler haters got together with the Madden hater(s) the board would explode.


For a game you hate, you sure like to talk about it a lot.

Broncos4Life
08-13-2009, 11:58 PM
Why don't you just get last year's version and save yourself some quiche?

Uh..... no.
Last years game was crap. I played on and off for four months and traded it in for ncaa09 football. I've played both demos for this years version and like it much better. Much more realistic and the closest EA has come to the 2K series since buying the NFL license.

Broncos4Life
08-14-2009, 12:02 AM
I work at Best Buy and have been playing the demo for a few days - I'd venture to say it's the biggest leap the game has made in years.

So Montrose, does this mean your gonna buy it? If so, what system?
I know there was a thread about starting an online league on the 360 and PS3. I definitely want to get in on that action. I'm headin over to pick up my PS3 copy in about 20 minutes.

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2009, 01:33 AM
Ended up going tonight.

Sure enough, my xbox live opponent was Chicago. Fitting.

Anyways, he won 21-17. I threw 3 INTs.

Killericon
08-14-2009, 01:39 AM
IGN is Entertainment Tonight. Gamespot is CNN. And I play with myself every Sunday so their tagline is irrelevant.

Scored 88 on Metacritic.

I buy them every year because I'm a consumerist slave, but I think this year's is worth it, even if only for the ratings revamp. Of course, I'm a franchise/dynasty mode whore, but that's just me.

Uh..... no.
Last years game was crap. I played on and off for four months and traded it in for ncaa09 football. I've played both demos for this years version and like it much better. Much more realistic and the closest EA has come to the 2K series since buying the NFL license.

Oh god, this drives me NUTS. Yes, the last gen 2K NFL game was better than the Madden series from Last Gen. However, you have no idea how well 2K would've done with the next gen...But if NBA 2K and MLB 2K are any hint, then 2K would've just ****ed it up.

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 01:41 AM
IM ON XBox 360: Add: Doggcow

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 01:43 AM
THIS YEAR YOU CAN CUSTOMIZE YOUR ROSTER AND IT STAYS WHEN YOU TAKE IT ONLINE FOR EVERY GAME! None of that 5 minute wait before every game subbing players!

Wow maybe they did a good job

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 01:44 AM
this game is great other than the fact that you cannot play online and the game drops after the coinflip every time.... REALLY??!

UberBroncoMan
08-14-2009, 02:08 AM
Grown men waiting in a midnight line for a video game. No wonder the rest of the world hates us.

I've only done it once in my life... for the Burning Crusade.

Never again.

UberBroncoMan
08-14-2009, 02:09 AM
Ended up going tonight.

Sure enough, my xbox live opponent was Chicago. Fitting.

Anyways, he won 21-17. I threw 3 INTs.

Did you at least pick off Jay?

So Montrose, does this mean your gonna buy it? If so, what system?
I know there was a thread about starting an online league on the 360 and PS3. I definitely want to get in on that action. I'm headin over to pick up my PS3 copy in about 20 minutes.

Oooooooooon BROAAAAAAAAAAAADWAY!

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:18 AM
Smashing the Chargers atm

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:19 AM
Online btw. I think its more about playcalling now than just player ratings

easymobee
08-14-2009, 02:26 AM
The fact that people are waiting to buy a ****ty game at midnight the day it comes out makes me think our economy can't be doing all that bad. STFU Noob

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:30 AM
It's actually a very good game this far into it. Ayers and Doom need to prove they can play OLB though until then our D will be weak.

I just smashed a chargers kid 14-0 when he quit at the half

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:40 AM
Anyone wanna do a Madden 10 Xbox 360 franchise?

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:05 AM
PEYTON HILLIS OWNS! Wow

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:23 AM
They are cheap as **** though. Making it so you have to use the special code that comes with your game so people that rent it cant play the whole game. ****ing gay. FYI don't buy used, lol

spdirty
08-14-2009, 08:40 AM
They are cheap as **** though. Making it so you have to use the special code that comes with your game so people that rent it cant play the whole game. ****ing gay. FYI don't buy used, lol

unbelievable.

Chris
08-14-2009, 08:49 AM
Got it over the weekend (some stores are just Chris friendly) and I like the menus, like that "running into guys" doesn't stop you dead in your tracks anymore, like that they gave Marshal the strength rating of a linebacker, like the sound of the new online franchise stuff a lot (though I haven't been able to play it since the servers were offline).

The Broncos ain't half bad. That said, I threw 2 INTs with Orton last night. That has me worried..... not.

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2009, 08:50 AM
They are cheap as **** though. Making it so you have to use the special code that comes with your game so people that rent it cant play the whole game. ****ing gay. FYI don't buy used, lol

Wait... what?

I bought it last night, played one game online then went to bed. What code am I needing?

Chris
08-14-2009, 09:07 AM
Here is what people really need to know about Madden

There is a new section where you have to pay additional real money to unlock additional seasons for franchise mode, "VIP / All Madden" online MP lobbies, "instant injury cures" and other crap that no one should pay for on top of a $60 free.

EDIT: Disclaimer - I strongly think this is the case. It's on the main menu and I was hesistant to select it for fear of being charged. I don't think you can earn these in-game.

Arkansas Bronco
08-14-2009, 09:15 AM
I just seen an add from SI that if you order there mag for 24 weeks you get madd. 10 for free. Im not reppin it but the cost for most games now is 60 and the offer was 50 so i just am throwing it out for any one interested in looking into it further.

MileHighMagic
08-14-2009, 09:19 AM
I just did the Sports Illustrated promo where you order 28 issues ($50) and get a free Madden 10 copy. Not a bad deal at all.

XBOX 360 : Topsy05

Chris
08-14-2009, 10:11 AM
Here you go

Elite status for $5 gives players to exclusive VIP lobbies and leaderboards, a new Elite game mode (supposedly harder than All-Madden mode), the ability to play a ranked match in All-Madden mode, and most comically, the ability to have your name listed in gold on online match screens.”

ChrisSimpy
08-14-2009, 10:24 AM
Here you go

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wow thats lame bought the game last night didnt open it yet but played buddies. Fun game seems alot more realistic

So thats what all madden is easier now they dumbed it down tryng to sell the extra mode I guess

missingnumber7
08-14-2009, 10:28 AM
Here you go

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Its amazing what they get people to pay for now.

Drek
08-14-2009, 10:44 AM
Here is what people really need to know about Madden

There is a new section where you have to pay additional real money to unlock additional seasons for franchise mode, "VIP / All Madden" online MP lobbies, "instant injury cures" and other crap that no one should pay for on top of a $60 free.

EDIT: Disclaimer - I strongly think this is the case. It's on the main menu and I was hesistant to select it for fear of being charged. I don't think you can earn these in-game.

It doesn't do anything with franchise mode. The only legitimate think they changed was not letting you play All-Madden difficulty in ranked matches without the VIP sub, but that is a pretty minor little thing when I'd bet most people will instead be focused on franchise leagues this time around (awesome feature).

The demo was very impressive, best jump forward in the franchise in a while. I'll be grabbing my copy on the way home today (PS3 FYI).

Rabb
08-14-2009, 10:47 AM
and the franchise mode is in there for people that get the game used, similair to how Gears of War was with some maps...if you bought the game new, you got the code

you buy it used, you buy the code extra

montrose
08-14-2009, 11:23 AM
Grown men waiting in a midnight line for a video game. No wonder the rest of the world hates us.

Funny thing is, we're not even the world's biggest fans of video games - Japan is.

Is it worth the buy?? Yes or No?!

Yes!

So Montrose, does this mean your gonna buy it? If so, what system?
I know there was a thread about starting an online league on the 360 and PS3. I definitely want to get in on that action. I'm headin over to pick up my PS3 copy in about 20 minutes.

I got it for 360.

TUG
08-14-2009, 11:30 AM
The presentation is way better than last year, and the graphics are very good. I am having a little trouble with the game speed it is a little slower than NCAA 10.

Majik
08-14-2009, 11:36 AM
I was playing a game in the rain and Royal slipped while running a slant, I don't recall ever seeing a player lose their footing like that in madden before. +1 ea

Majik
08-14-2009, 11:36 AM
gamertag= pro8ject6

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2009, 11:39 AM
Avoid this tool at all costs, new comers.

Los Broncos
08-14-2009, 11:49 AM
So I go to Walmart last night they had it for $49.00, ten bucks off if you buy it at midnight for some season.

Plus a free gift, So I said what the hell.

First of all it looks sweet on my high def, and they have players who don't even play for us. I'm assuming there will be some kind of update.

Our passing game it sick even with Orton. As long as there is a good pocket you can throw for days.

I like how you can press a button and have audibles to call. I like the quick slants. Royal catches everything you throw his way.

Why are our names on the jerseys have the letters spread apart?

And I used Carolina for an online game, good defense but why is Peppers not there?

Cosmo
08-14-2009, 11:57 AM
Most missing rookies are under free agents.

I found Bruton, McKinley, and Baker.

Pontius Pirate
08-14-2009, 12:23 PM
this game is great other than the fact that you cannot play online and the game drops after the coinflip every time.... REALLY??!

http://www.culturallycool.com/oneliner_files/A1597H-lg-b.jpg

80smith
08-14-2009, 12:24 PM
Anyone a game club member at best buy? I just picked my copy up and pre-ordered assassin's creed 2 and was able to get $10 off the madden and since I'm inrolled in the best buy gamers club, I got a coupon for a free $10 best buy gift card. I used another best buy gift card that I got for free a while back with left over $$$ and got the game for $27.

supermanhr9
08-14-2009, 12:29 PM
The presentation is way better than last year, and the graphics are very good. I am having a little trouble with the game speed it is a little slower than NCAA 10.

you can choose to speed it up if you want under settings. They said that was one of their goals this year to slow the game down, I put it back up to Normal myself.

Chris
08-14-2009, 12:31 PM
Actually montrose US sales exceed Japan's but the percentage of people playing "hardcore" games is higher there.

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 12:35 PM
http://www.culturallycool.com/oneliner_files/A1597H-lg-b.jpg

I guess they fixed it after a few hours. EVERY game was dropping online lol

Chris
08-14-2009, 01:07 PM
Probably due to the insane load Doggcow

tsiguy96
08-14-2009, 01:08 PM
just got the game, dunno if my apt will allow me to get online with it...

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 01:10 PM
Lol wow, Just froze online apparently.

If it's going to be a close review DONT GET TACKLED OUT OF BOUNDS BECAUSE THE GAME WILL JUST FREEZE UP AND DO NOTHING

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 01:18 PM
Lol wow, Just froze online apparently.

If it's going to be a close review DONT GET TACKLED OUT OF BOUNDS BECAUSE THE GAME WILL JUST FREEZE UP AND DO NOTHING

I got the win though because Im more persistent than the other kid :D

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:13 PM
NEVER RETURN THE BALL WITH EDDIE ROYAL. He has fumbled 90% of the time for me. It's awesome.

Archer81
08-14-2009, 02:23 PM
Going to get it at some point this weekend...and my s/n for my PS3 surprisingly...Sirhcyennek81...I know. You are all completely shocked.

:Broncos:

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2009, 02:41 PM
NEVER RETURN THE BALL WITH EDDIE ROYAL. He has fumbled 90% of the time for me. It's awesome.

Really? He hasn't once for me. Although I haven't returned any punts, just kickoffs, I've fair caught all of those so far.

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:45 PM
Really? He hasn't once for me. Although I haven't returned any punts, just kickoffs, I've fair caught all of those so far.

He doesnt fumble like just as he catches it on returns its at the end he fumbles every damn time.

supermanhr9
08-14-2009, 02:50 PM
It's when you try to "Highlight stick" your way through a crowd of people. It has always been that way, when you're being tackled and highlight stick, it's very easy to fumble. Try just stiff arming your way through, it's more effective and you don't fumble. Only use the highlight stick before you make contact, not after.

supermanhr9
08-14-2009, 02:50 PM
Anyone gonna start an online league here?

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 02:55 PM
Eddie just returned a kickoff 95 yards for a td

supermanhr9
08-14-2009, 03:07 PM
Eddie just returned a kickoff 95 yards for a td

That's something I noticed in both NCAA and this Madden, it's a lot easier to return kicks, which I love because it's more realistic.

The other games it was a miracle to break off 40 yard returns.

This game if you make one or two good moves or good reads your off for 40 at least, just like in real life.

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:11 PM
Wow Champ Bailey has been pegged in the face so many times. PICK IT!

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:14 PM
Eddie just returned an 80yd punt for me too. Lol this guy has to hate Eddie right now

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:18 PM
Dawkins owns. Wow it's so nice to have a stud Safety

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:25 PM
Raiders play like they're an 85+ overall team btw guys. Same as the last few years they all play WAY better than their ratings.

RhymesayersDU
08-14-2009, 03:29 PM
I'm enjoying the game so far. I'm not enjoying the Broncos being not that good.

I was also playing the Pats, and the guy on Live challenged the play, and the commentator said "Coach Jim Mora wants them to take another look."

Was unaware Jim Mora coached the Pats. I always laugh at little things like that. I was playing the Bears, and the dude hit the TE a couple times, prompting Chris Collinsworth to say "Sometimes you worry so much about these great WRs on the outside that you forget about the tight end." Yes, people are always forgetting about those super stud, perennial pro-bowl Chicago WR's! /forehead slap

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:34 PM
BESTMADDEN QUOTE EVER: "Frank Gore is going to get in the hole and fight to get every inch he can in there"

Doggcow
08-14-2009, 03:52 PM
Wow I just switched to a 46 defense and we actually run it pretty well.

I have Jarvis and Doom starting at DE and Ayers at WLB and Andre at SLB, and I just blitz Ayers every down since his coverage sucks ass. Im bringing 5 every time and still keep up with good coverage in nickle

Chris
08-14-2009, 04:51 PM
Eddie just returned an 80yd punt for me too. Lol this guy has to hate Eddie right now

Eddie has a 99 return rating. He's the closest you'll get to unstoppable.

maher_tyler
08-14-2009, 04:55 PM
I bet if the Cutler haters got together with the Madden hater(s) the board would explode.


For a game you hate, you sure like to talk about it a lot.

Its a love hate relationship...

maher_tyler
08-14-2009, 05:11 PM
unbelievable.

It's actually a pretty smart idea...

Aftermath
08-14-2009, 05:35 PM
too bad eddie is only rated a 93 in speed and champ is a 97 wtf???????? eddie royal should at least be a 97

cutthemdown
08-14-2009, 06:06 PM
lol at getting people to buy a new madden game every yr. What a racket!!!! What a country!!!!.

I heard they have many improvements they hold back for future versions. Why? So they can milk 3-4 improvements into 3-4 new versions you have to buy.

maher_tyler
08-14-2009, 06:44 PM
lol at getting people to buy a new madden game every yr. What a racket!!!! What a country!!!!.

I heard they have many improvements they hold back for future versions. Why? So they can milk 3-4 improvements into 3-4 new versions you have to buy.

How else would they make there money??

Btw...i played last night and the game speed is WAY slower this year. Everytime i threw a quick slant pass to Royal, Orton over threw him by a good 5 yards. What is the trick to this game? Is it cause i'm playing on All-Madden?? Also, screens to the RB's actually work, especially to Clady's side...so far that has been the only play i've gained decent yardage on!!

Also...my SN on PS3 is Wolfpack682...if anyone is starting a league or whatever, send me an invite!!

yerner
08-14-2009, 07:03 PM
lol at getting people to buy a new madden game every yr. What a racket!!!! What a country!!!!.

I heard they have many improvements they hold back for future versions. Why? So they can milk 3-4 improvements into 3-4 new versions you have to buy.

Yeah, that 60 bucks every 12 months is brutal.

80smith
08-14-2009, 07:23 PM
"Boss Baily" just made a great play on D

ludo21
08-14-2009, 07:28 PM
ludo211

Send me a friend invite sometime and ill play some of you guys.. PS3

The game so far is great, more like 2k (which is a good thing). I suck with Moreno and Orton so far, weird..

maher_tyler
08-14-2009, 07:36 PM
ludo211

Send me a friend invite sometime and ill play some of you guys.. PS3

The game so far is great, more like 2k (which is a good thing). I suck with Moreno and Orton so far, weird..

Moreno i've done ok with but i've been brutel with Orton!!

I played the comp. last night and played the Cards and no joke, Warner stood in the pocket for a good 15 seconds before throwing the ball...the D line and backers are pretty pathetic...

ludo21
08-14-2009, 07:48 PM
It was funny, I put Simms in and he threw like 9/10. It was crazy lol

maher_tyler
08-14-2009, 08:14 PM
I wonder when they'll make MOXIE an attribute for QB's...

spdirty
08-15-2009, 12:04 AM
geez, just played my first game of madden in almost a year, Orton was 14/14 for 182 yards, knowshon 9 carries for 20 yards, won the game 27-14 against the bucs.

The accellerated clock with 5 minute games is gay.

Chris
08-15-2009, 12:07 AM
You can turn the accelerated clock off in the settings

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 12:55 AM
Played my first online manipulator/general douche. I beat him, at least. Ran the same basic plays on offense and defense.

I LOL @ guys who just blitz and run two guys right up the middle to exploit the issue with the center, which is what this guy did, every down.

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 03:47 PM
So... I found something that kind of bugs me.

I was playing the Texans, and on the load screen it tells you how good each team is at every position. Well the Texans had 3 full blocks for WR. In contrast, the Broncos only have 2.

Now don't get me wrong. Andre Johnson is amazing. But who else do they have? Who would you rather have as WR's, BMarsh & Royal or just Andre Johnson? I'd take the duo over the one guy, and I don't think I'm being a homer when I say that.

Moral of the story is, the Broncos should have 3 bars for WRs. The end.

Drek
08-15-2009, 04:32 PM
So... I found something that kind of bugs me.

I was playing the Texans, and on the load screen it tells you how good each team is at every position. Well the Texans had 3 full blocks for WR. In contrast, the Broncos only have 2.

Now don't get me wrong. Andre Johnson is amazing. But who else do they have? Who would you rather have as WR's, BMarsh & Royal or just Andre Johnson? I'd take the duo over the one guy, and I don't think I'm being a homer when I say that.

Moral of the story is, the Broncos should have 3 bars for WRs. The end.
I think its slanted based on the top guys at each position.

In my franchise I had two blocks in RB my first year with Moreno (81) Buckhalter (75) Hillis (85?). I'm now full blocks and while Moreno and Hillis both did improve (86 and 90) my backups are all sub-70's.

The pre-game position blocks are very star driven, so if you have a stud you're more likely to top blocks out.

How else would they make there money??

Btw...i played last night and the game speed is WAY slower this year. Everytime i threw a quick slant pass to Royal, Orton over threw him by a good 5 yards. What is the trick to this game? Is it cause i'm playing on All-Madden?? Also, screens to the RB's actually work, especially to Clady's side...so far that has been the only play i've gained decent yardage on!!

Also...my SN on PS3 is Wolfpack682...if anyone is starting a league or whatever, send me an invite!!

There is a speed setting in Game Options (I think that is the right place). Make sure you're on "Normal" not "Slow".

A big requirement is using some touch on your passes and don't try throwing on the run with Orton, everything sales with him if you try throwing on the run.

Moreno is ****ing GOD in this game. Its absurd how well rounded he is. His 86 speed is the only knock on him, and when I haven't had problems breaking off some very large gains with him already. He's devastating on screens and HB angles.

Hillis his a horse too, great short yardage pounder and he's also powerful out of the backfield. If you get any speed up before trucking someone he almost always powers through the first guy without a problem.

They really ****ed our OL though. Clady is great, Hamilton and Weigmann are solid (probably about where they should be) but Kuper is slightly underrated (he should start off at about an 80 in my opinion) and Harris is totally gimped (74 to start, should probably be about an 85 going by how he played last year). As a result it can be very tough to run well with the Broncos using the basic rosters.

The LBs and DEs are also totally gimped. McBean, Powell, and Woodyard aren't even in the game. Crowder and Reid are still listed at DE and move to LB very poorly. Its pretty clear they left Moss and Dumervil "as is" with their DE stats and just changed their positions to LB too.

McBath has good potential, Alphonso Smith develops quite well, and Ayers has monster written all over him. DJ moves into MLB fairly well (only drops a point).

The game itself is a dramatic improvement over previous years. The slightly slower game speed (even on Normal) allows you to watch things develop more accurately. The collision boxes are very much refined and a real physics engine of some kind looks to be in effect now as blockers actually fight with their hands, not just slam against incoming DLs and the tackling is MUCH more refined. A good example is whenever you run with Moreno, you can watch him slip and slide out of arm tackles. Or with Hillis, when running a short FB handoff and the MLB comes to fill the gap but is a step slow, in previous iterations the MLB would just magnet lock onto Hillis and move at light speed to get in position for the stop. Now you can truck his outside shoulder and send him spinning off without losing much forward momentum.

Secondary play is much tighter, though it does still need some work. Even mediocre cover guys like Ayers aren't totally oblivious to balls coming directly at them (though they aren't going to catch them with regularity). They also don't magically snap around for a ball or runner when facing in the opposite direction. Corners actually play their man and make contact as the ball comes in, not three steps after, so broken up passes and upended WRs is much more prevalent.

All around a MASSIVE improvement for the franchise. It still has some ways to go, but its a big step over what they have been offering to this point on next gen systems.

i4jelway7
08-15-2009, 06:52 PM
The LBs and DEs are also totally gimped. McBean, Powell, and Woodyard aren't even in the game. Crowder and Reid are still listed at DE and move to LB very poorly. Its pretty clear they left Moss and Dumervil "as is" with their DE stats and just changed their positions to LB too.


Mcbean and Woodyard are there as well as chris baker he is on the free agent list.. just cut torain and add him.

you may have to do a roster update, b/c there is one out there, just go online and start a game it will download

Drek
08-15-2009, 07:44 PM
Mcbean and Woodyard are there as well as chris baker he is on the free agent list.. just cut torain and add him.

you may have to do a roster update, b/c there is one out there, just go online and start a game it will download

That'd explain some of it I'm sure. They typically hold off on the first roster update until final cuts, I guess they realized just how janked up this one was from the start.

Killericon
08-15-2009, 07:47 PM
On the whole, I'm satisfied. I wish the online franchise server weren't crashing so much, and there's a few problems, but I like it.

Broncos4Life
08-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Is anyone running or going to run a PS3 online league? I'm looking to join one.

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 08:45 PM
Some rosters may adjust soon; I read on a gaming website there will be an update on 8/19... Most notably, Mike Vick will be added. What will be interesting is what kind of stats he gets. But I'm sure the number of people playing as Philly will skyrocket.

One thing I have noticed about this game that upsets me slightly is when my opponents use the Wildcat formation. Now I haven't been burned by it or anything, it's not a huge deal, but you can't spotlight the person getting the ball. So for instance, I was playing against Buffalo, and dude ran the Wildcat on some plays. He did the same thing each time. Marshawn got hiked the ball, and he'd try and run up the gut or to the outside with him. Nothing fancy, and no big plays came of it. BUT still, I would like to be able to spotlight Marshawn Lynch in that situation, and you can't. I think because he's technically the QB.

maher_tyler
08-15-2009, 09:21 PM
Some rosters may adjust soon; I read on a gaming website there will be an update on 8/19... Most notably, Mike Vick will be added. What will be interesting is what kind of stats he gets. But I'm sure the number of people playing as Philly will skyrocket.

One thing I have noticed about this game that upsets me slightly is when my opponents use the Wildcat formation. Now I haven't been burned by it or anything, it's not a huge deal, but you can't spotlight the person getting the ball. So for instance, I was playing against Buffalo, and dude ran the Wildcat on some plays. He did the same thing each time. Marshawn got hiked the ball, and he'd try and run up the gut or to the outside with him. Nothing fancy, and no big plays came of it. BUT still, I would like to be able to spotlight Marshawn Lynch in that situation, and you can't. I think because he's technically the QB.

QB spy might work??

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 09:23 PM
Oooooh that is a fantastic idea. Hadn't thought of that.

maher_tyler
08-15-2009, 09:26 PM
I think its slanted based on the top guys at each position.

In my franchise I had two blocks in RB my first year with Moreno (81) Buckhalter (75) Hillis (85?). I'm now full blocks and while Moreno and Hillis both did improve (86 and 90) my backups are all sub-70's.

The pre-game position blocks are very star driven, so if you have a stud you're more likely to top blocks out.



There is a speed setting in Game Options (I think that is the right place). Make sure you're on "Normal" not "Slow".

A big requirement is using some touch on your passes and don't try throwing on the run with Orton, everything sales with him if you try throwing on the run.

Moreno is ****ing GOD in this game. Its absurd how well rounded he is. His 86 speed is the only knock on him, and when I haven't had problems breaking off some very large gains with him already. He's devastating on screens and HB angles.

Hillis his a horse too, great short yardage pounder and he's also powerful out of the backfield. If you get any speed up before trucking someone he almost always powers through the first guy without a problem.

They really ****ed our OL though. Clady is great, Hamilton and Weigmann are solid (probably about where they should be) but Kuper is slightly underrated (he should start off at about an 80 in my opinion) and Harris is totally gimped (74 to start, should probably be about an 85 going by how he played last year). As a result it can be very tough to run well with the Broncos using the basic rosters.

The LBs and DEs are also totally gimped. McBean, Powell, and Woodyard aren't even in the game. Crowder and Reid are still listed at DE and move to LB very poorly. Its pretty clear they left Moss and Dumervil "as is" with their DE stats and just changed their positions to LB too.

McBath has good potential, Alphonso Smith develops quite well, and Ayers has monster written all over him. DJ moves into MLB fairly well (only drops a point).

The game itself is a dramatic improvement over previous years. The slightly slower game speed (even on Normal) allows you to watch things develop more accurately. The collision boxes are very much refined and a real physics engine of some kind looks to be in effect now as blockers actually fight with their hands, not just slam against incoming DLs and the tackling is MUCH more refined. A good example is whenever you run with Moreno, you can watch him slip and slide out of arm tackles. Or with Hillis, when running a short FB handoff and the MLB comes to fill the gap but is a step slow, in previous iterations the MLB would just magnet lock onto Hillis and move at light speed to get in position for the stop. Now you can truck his outside shoulder and send him spinning off without losing much forward momentum.

Secondary play is much tighter, though it does still need some work. Even mediocre cover guys like Ayers aren't totally oblivious to balls coming directly at them (though they aren't going to catch them with regularity). They also don't magically snap around for a ball or runner when facing in the opposite direction. Corners actually play their man and make contact as the ball comes in, not three steps after, so broken up passes and upended WRs is much more prevalent.

All around a MASSIVE improvement for the franchise. It still has some ways to go, but its a big step over what they have been offering to this point on next gen systems.

I haven't had in consistancy running the ball at all...my longerst run has been for 18 yards on a toss and if Moreno didn't break a tackle it would have been a loss of like 3 yards. I can only get around 2-3 yards a pop cause there is always someone in my back field...

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Yeah I wouldn't say Moreno is a God... I have broken like an 80 yard run with him but that is certainly the exception, not the rule.

He's fantastic catching the ball out in the flat, but that's just part of Madden, it's so hard for any LB's to get out there.

maher_tyler
08-15-2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah I wouldn't say Moreno is a God... I have broken like an 80 yard run with him but that is certainly the exception, not the rule.

He's fantastic catching the ball out in the flat, but that's just part of Madden, it's so hard for any LB's to get out there.

Maybe i need to take some off my throws but i've had guys drop a lot of balls...

Btw..i played earlier and beat the guy 36-0...all thought he was Cinci

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Yeah I'm like 6-3 right now. I've beaten a variety of different teams. I'm getting the hang of the Broncos, Orton, etc... Although I never throw deep.

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 10:05 PM
Had a great game against Philly today... This kid wasn't very good, but at the end of the first half I was only up 3-0. My drive sputtered near the goal line. Anyways. I come out, march down the field to like the 5. Throw an INT which is returned for a TD. He's up 7-3, I'm not real worried.

Start to march again. Another INT. Returned for a TD again. At this point he's kicking off with 5 ticks left in the 3rd. I get my first kickoff return TD, Royal takes it to the house. I shut down his next drive and score another TD. I would have been pissed if I had lost. Not that I take it too seriously, but I was crushing him in every statistical category except the scoreboard, which is frustrating.

Northman
08-15-2009, 10:07 PM
Had a great game against Philly today... This kid wasn't very good, but at the end of the first half I was only up 3-0. My drive sputtered near the goal line. Anyways. I come out, march down the field to like the 5. Throw an INT which is returned for a TD. He's up 7-3, I'm not real worried.

Start to march again. Another INT. Returned for a TD again. At this point he's kicking off with 5 ticks left in the 3rd. I get my first kickoff return TD, Royal takes it to the house. I shut down his next drive and score another TD. I would have been pissed if I had lost. Not that I take it too seriously, but I was crushing him in every statistical category except the scoreboard, which is frustrating.

Sounds like football to me.

RhymesayersDU
08-15-2009, 10:08 PM
Sounds like football to me.

Consecutive drive Orton INTs. This game IS realistic! LOL

maher_tyler
08-15-2009, 10:19 PM
Yeah I'm like 6-3 right now. I've beaten a variety of different teams. I'm getting the hang of the Broncos, Orton, etc... Although I never throw deep.

I got one deep to Marshall on the left side for a 36 yard TD...i thought for sure the 2 DB's were gonna break it up but didn't do much of anything and BM caught it and practically walked in...

You should also try the WR screen to Royal...i get around 10 yards when the pass is completed...

RhymesayersDU
08-16-2009, 12:39 AM
So the idiots are completely running Madden Live, apparently. It's good because they suck and I beat them, it's bad because it's not competitive.

Tonight I had another real gem of an opponent. For some reason, he ran goal line the whole game. I think it's because he was trying to bait me into running a goal line defense, so he could pop Bush outside and be off to the races. I didn't bite. That didn't stop him from running it all game long. It was very odd. Couple that with blitzing everybody every down (most notably up the middle to exploit the center thing) and I raped him, basically.

Doggcow
08-16-2009, 12:50 AM
Cool, I got a loss when the game froze before the kickoff :)

i4jelway7
08-16-2009, 05:42 AM
Some rosters may adjust soon; I read on a gaming website there will be an update on 8/19...

One thing I have noticed about this game that upsets me slightly is when my opponents use the Wildcat formation. Now I haven't been burned by it or anything, it's not a huge deal, but you can't spotlight the person getting the ball.

first let me say this-- This game is the best Madden EA has put out.

Now to what is pissing me off anyone else notice in the 4th quarter when you try to get out of bounds to stop the clock it doesn't work the clock keeps running and where is the ability to challenge a play? I haven't been able to challenge a single play

KevinJames
08-16-2009, 05:54 AM
Man the Broncos are a 70 but they play like a 85-90 team, the offense is so potent and when you go into the 2 back sets bust out Hillis on a swing pass I guarntee you hes gonna run over any db trying to tackle him.

I scored 3 TDs and 5 rec for 170 yds with hillis just him getting into the flats and downfield blocking by Marshall and Grahm. Wow what a monster and knowshon is sick in this game too!

i4jelway7
08-16-2009, 06:31 AM
anyone else notice the Broncos offensive playbook is exactly the same as last years? shouldn't it be similar to the Pats playbook? I use the pats playbook and a mult d playbook, and I put doom and ayers at the DE spots and put Moss at OLB, and Davis at the other OLB spot

elsid13
08-16-2009, 07:35 AM
anyone else notice the Broncos offensive playbook is exactly the same as last years? shouldn't it be similar to the Pats playbook? I use the pats playbook and a mult d playbook, and I put doom and ayers at the DE spots and put Moss at OLB, and Davis at the other OLB spot

It follows the Pats playback from last season, not shanahan. I am still up in the air on the game, there are somethings I like but there others I think WTF.

I think I would like it better if I was better at running the ball. I am still trying to adjust to the running game, and need to grind it out more. Though last night against PATS in franchise I threw 8 picks, all the QB got into the act.

elsid13
08-16-2009, 07:49 AM
Man the Broncos are a 70 but they play like a 85-90 team, the offense is so potent and when you go into the 2 back sets bust out Hillis on a swing pass I guarntee you hes gonna run over any db trying to tackle him.

I scored 3 TDs and 5 rec for 170 yds with hillis just him getting into the flats and downfield blocking by Marshall and Grahm. Wow what a monster and knowshon is sick in this game too!

That a bug, that going to be fixed with the first patch. The LBs are moving to the right spot on the field in zone.

RhymesayersDU
08-16-2009, 10:07 AM
first let me say this-- This game is the best Madden EA has put out.

Now to what is pissing me off anyone else notice in the 4th quarter when you try to get out of bounds to stop the clock it doesn't work the clock keeps running and where is the ability to challenge a play? I haven't been able to challenge a single play

I've noticed the out of bounds thing too. It's always so weird, common sense football plays like that get overlooked in this game year after year.

RhymesayersDU
08-16-2009, 11:22 AM
http://kotaku.com/5338269/vicks-madden-ratings-worse-but-still-dangerous


Vick will be a 73 overall... Vick's speed, agility, acceleration, elusiveness, juke and spin moves all declined between three and four points, but all remain 90 or better.

Long story short, Eagles will be everybody's favorite team. But I can't complain, I will have to test this out as well.

Doggcow
08-16-2009, 01:49 PM
Has anyone noticed Awareness mattering? I really want to put Josh Barrett back in because he was a manimal last year.

elsid13
08-16-2009, 06:12 PM
Has anyone noticed Awareness mattering? I really want to put Josh Barrett back in because he was a manimal last year.

It does, go with McBath he seem to have a knack for interception in the game. Burton is also darn good.

Los Broncos
08-16-2009, 11:52 PM
PS3: IronClady72, I'm not on that much but add me if you see me.

maher_tyler
08-17-2009, 12:28 AM
Still getting used to it...i can't seem to beat whoever plays as the Vikings..my two loses were against guys who were them. In both games Jared Allen has pick off a pass...and have thrown INTs due to the ref getting in the way in the middle of the field. I'll have to try blitzing up the middle more...

Drek
08-17-2009, 07:46 AM
Yeah I wouldn't say Moreno is a God... I have broken like an 80 yard run with him but that is certainly the exception, not the rule.

He's fantastic catching the ball out in the flat, but that's just part of Madden, it's so hard for any LB's to get out there.

I rarely ever get stopped for a loss with Moreno and I typically get 3-5 per carry, with probably one in every three or four getting taken for 8+ yards.

Not a ton of 20+ yarders (though I doubt anyone could break many of those off with how much better the safety play is) but a LOT of 8-15 yard runs, even up the gut.

My general tactic when I line up for a run is to check the D and flip the play (with the right stick) towards the light side of the D (even on runs up the gut). Check the D and make sure you motion your TE or WR as needed to pull some extra defenders away/line up an extra blocker. Then check your OL's pattern. If its an up the guy smash you want to set up aggressive blocking (L2+Up). If its a run to the outside you either want to go aggressive (if your TE or OT has the outside edge on the furthest outside front seven defender) or crash right or left (depending on the side you're going to). Those are the reads I make at the start of every run.

Then once Moreno has the ball I use a quick speed burst (R2 now) to get up to the line. My first defender 3/4ths of the time gets juked. Moreno snaps quick and hard on jukes, once you know the spacing to pull it off you can leave your first man swinging at air or run through his arm tackle with consistency. At that point follow your blockers up into the secondary and start lining up one on one match-ups. His spin move can be deadly and his truck will tear people up, but I got to say that I think his stiff arm is the best play in a lot of open field scenarios. It typically ends in you being tackled, but you drag an extra couple years off the defense when you do it.

The biggest thing is that this isn't old Madden, changing direction sharply costs you a LOT of forward momentum and speed. Also if you just speed burst constant you won't break very many tackles. The burst needs to be turned on when you have daylight and you need to let off and make a move as tacklers come in at you. You need to ease into and out of your cuts. Moreno cuts better than most, but if you don't make sharp moves he'll basically never slow down and run downhill on people hard.

Thats just my general strategy. I took a line of pretty much all sub 80 OLs (except for Clady) and consistently put up 6+ YPC my second year of franchise mode. I even did that against the Steelers D which is a top bunch of run stoppers.

The biggest thing with Moreno is his pass catching in all scenarios. Most backs let you exploit slants and screens into the flats, but Moreno is great on HB angles that bring him to the middle of the field 10-15 yards down field. He catches like a WR and he can crush with the ball in the open field. Short curls after a chip block up the middle make him into a great safety valve for your QB too.

broncofan7
08-17-2009, 08:03 AM
I am still waiting for my free copy of Madden that I got with my SI subscription......$49 28 weeks of si and free madden--and I can cancel anytime

RhymesayersDU
08-17-2009, 08:09 AM
Interesting stuff Drek. I will try some of that.

i4jelway7
08-17-2009, 09:18 AM
I rarely ever get stopped for a loss with Moreno and I typically get 3-5 per carry, with probably one in every three or four getting taken for 8+ yards.

Not a ton of 20+ yarders (though I doubt anyone could break many of those off with how much better the safety play is) but a LOT of 8-15 yard runs, even up the gut.

My general tactic when I line up for a run is to check the D and flip the play (with the right stick) towards the light side of the D (even on runs up the gut). Check the D and make sure you motion your TE or WR as needed to pull some extra defenders away/line up an extra blocker. Then check your OL's pattern. If its an up the guy smash you want to set up aggressive blocking (L2+Up). If its a run to the outside you either want to go aggressive (if your TE or OT has the outside edge on the furthest outside front seven defender) or crash right or left (depending on the side you're going to). Those are the reads I make at the start of every run.

Then once Moreno has the ball I use a quick speed burst (R2 now) to get up to the line. My first defender 3/4ths of the time gets juked. Moreno snaps quick and hard on jukes, once you know the spacing to pull it off you can leave your first man swinging at air or run through his arm tackle with consistency. At that point follow your blockers up into the secondary and start lining up one on one match-ups. His spin move can be deadly and his truck will tear people up, but I got to say that I think his stiff arm is the best play in a lot of open field scenarios. It typically ends in you being tackled, but you drag an extra couple years off the defense when you do it.

The biggest thing is that this isn't old Madden, changing direction sharply costs you a LOT of forward momentum and speed. Also if you just speed burst constant you won't break very many tackles. The burst needs to be turned on when you have daylight and you need to let off and make a move as tacklers come in at you. You need to ease into and out of your cuts. Moreno cuts better than most, but if you don't make sharp moves he'll basically never slow down and run downhill on people hard.

Thats just my general strategy. I took a line of pretty much all sub 80 OLs (except for Clady) and consistently put up 6+ YPC my second year of franchise mode. I even did that against the Steelers D which is a top bunch of run stoppers.

The biggest thing with Moreno is his pass catching in all scenarios. Most backs let you exploit slants and screens into the flats, but Moreno is great on HB angles that bring him to the middle of the field 10-15 yards down field. He catches like a WR and he can crush with the ball in the open field. Short curls after a chip block up the middle make him into a great safety valve for your QB too.

what level of play are you playing on (ie. pro, all-pro, all-madden)

Drek
08-17-2009, 12:05 PM
what level of play are you playing on (ie. pro, all-pro, all-madden)

all-pro. Without paying EA money you can't play All-Madden ranked online, so I just stick with all-pro pretty much across the board.

Majik
08-19-2009, 11:17 AM
The Broncos get some much deserved love in the new Roster updates today!

Rating Adjustments (based on Preseason and Training Camps):



Ryan Harris - 85 OVR (was 74)...+11...severely underrated OL, Denver actually ranked as #3 and #1 against the run and pass.
Ben Hamilton - 85 OVR (was 81)...+4...also a big part of that #3 overall Denver OL in 2008
Ryan Clady - 91 OVR (was 90)...+1...see above...some already call him #1 LT in NFL

http://maddennfl.easports.com/blog.action?blogId=RosterUpdates

Ironlung
08-19-2009, 11:35 AM
The Broncos get some much deserved love in the new Roster updates today!

Rating Adjustments (based on Preseason and Training Camps):



Ryan Harris - 85 OVR (was 74)...+11...severely underrated OL, Denver actually ranked as #3 and #1 against the run and pass.
Ben Hamilton - 85 OVR (was 81)...+4...also a big part of that #3 overall Denver OL in 2008
Ryan Clady - 91 OVR (was 90)...+1...see above...some already call him #1 LT in NFL

http://maddennfl.easports.com/blog.action?blogId=RosterUpdates

Nice! Its only right!

Natedogg
08-19-2009, 08:17 PM
Love the game. Two gripes/questions. When I'm playing defense the default play call formation is usually quarter, dime, or something equally retarted (ie, not 3-4, 4-3, or nickel... sometimes even special teams on first down!!). Anyone else notice this/know how to change it?

Also the referees conferrring at the goal line bugs the hell out of me/wastes a lot of time. I Don't think there is a way to turn this off. is there?

RhymesayersDU
08-19-2009, 09:26 PM
Bad ass @ Ryan Harris. And the others too, but mainly the +11 jump. That's huge.