you won't lose your current health

[Bronx33]

Everytime obama says it ( it's a lie) he just forgets to add the tax part sure at first you will be fine until your employer finds out how much his tax adds up too ( you do the math)

HR3200 page 150

(1) IN GENERAL.—In the case of any employer
10 who is a small employer for any calendar year, sub11
section (a) shall be applied by substituting the appli12
cable percentage determined in accordance with the
13 following table for ‘‘8 percent’’:
If the annual payroll of such employer for
the preceding calendar year:
The applicable
percentage is:
Does not exceed $250,000 ..................................... 0 percent
Exceeds $250,000, but does not exceed $300,000 2 percent
Exceeds $300,000, but does not exceed $350,000 4 percent
Exceeds $350,000, but does not exceed $400,000 6 percent
14 (2) SMALL EMPLOYER.—For purposes of this
15 subsection, the term ‘‘small employer’’ means any
16 employer for any calendar year if the annual payroll
17 of such employer for the preceding calendar year
18 does not exceed $400,000.
19 (3) ANNUAL PAYROLL.—For purposes of this
20 paragraph, the term ‘‘annual payroll’’ means, with
21 respect to any employer for any calendar year, the
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So a employer with a 350k payroll has to pay obama 14 grand in contributions umm err i mean tax so chances are your employer will drop it's healthcare like a 7 dollar hooker with aids and be forced to go the public route.

[Dukes]

Why do you hate Obama? he's only trying to help people

[Bob]

Hate Monger!!!

How dare you listen to Obama's own words -- yes they were spoken when not as many were listening, but you should believe only his words now...


Quick! Pass this take-over -- this very week! (so it can go into effect in 2013, but we can start paying now.)

[Rohirrim]

Everytime obama says it ( it's a lie) he just forgets to add the tax part sure at first you will be fine until your employer finds out how much his tax adds up too ( you do the math)

HR3200 page 150

(1) IN GENERAL.—In the case of any employer
10 who is a small employer for any calendar year, sub11
section (a) shall be applied by substituting the appli12
cable percentage determined in accordance with the
13 following table for ‘‘8 percent’’:
If the annual payroll of such employer for
the preceding calendar year:
The applicable
percentage is:
Does not exceed $250,000 ..................................... 0 percent
Exceeds $250,000, but does not exceed $300,000 2 percent
Exceeds $300,000, but does not exceed $350,000 4 percent
Exceeds $350,000, but does not exceed $400,000 6 percent
14 (2) SMALL EMPLOYER.—For purposes of this
15 subsection, the term ‘‘small employer’’ means any
16 employer for any calendar year if the annual payroll
17 of such employer for the preceding calendar year
18 does not exceed $400,000.
19 (3) ANNUAL PAYROLL.—For purposes of this
20 paragraph, the term ‘‘annual payroll’’ means, with
21 respect to any employer for any calendar year, the
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July 14, 2009 (12:51 p.m.)
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f:\VHLC\071409\071409.140.xml (444390|2)


So a employer with a 350k payroll has to pay obama 14 grand in contributions umm err i mean tax so chances are your employer will drop it's healthcare like a 7 dollar hooker with aids and be forced to go the public route.

And how many "small" employers will drop insurance when we do nothing and it goes up another 20% next year. And the year after that?

[Spider]

And how many "small" employers will drop insurance when we do nothing and it goes up another 20% next year. And the year after that?

hey now , thats not fair , the bedwetters havent thought that far ahead yet ....All they know is what Rush has told them at this point and time ......

[Bronco Bob]

Everytime obama says it ( it's a lie) he just forgets to add the tax part sure at first you will be fine until your employer finds out how much his tax adds up too ( you do the math)


So how much of a kickback is the health insurance industry paying you to post lies on the internet?

[Bronx33]

And how many "small" employers will drop insurance when we do nothing and it goes up another 20% next year. And the year after that?


It's funnel all the public healthcare when the dust settles that's all that matters to obama iam more or less more upset he lies right too the american people without hesitation (that sir scares me) all my life i have gotten by simply but trusting people i guess that ok with the left but it bad when you have to fact check your own president.

1- I will not sign any bill with earmarks
2- 1.3 million to keep his public records out of reach why?
3- i support single pay
4- i don't support single pay
5- rushing bills through legislation saying ( we can't wait) and to top it off congress just giving it the thumbs up without even reading it.
6- removing the death panel portion of the bill that never existed Hilarious!

Are those not red flags? or do they need to be a certain color of red? sorry but trusting a president is pretty high on my list ( call me crazy)

[rastaman]

Why do you hate Obama? he's only trying to help people

Question should probably be why do "Conservative americans" hate Obama so much! After all, he's trying to work you guys.....why all the hatred, fearmongering, propaganda, and poor attitudes!

Gee Whiz conservatives......Grow up and stop your biiitching moaning and complaining.

Surely you conservatives didn't want "Palin and McCain" running the country at this crucial stage in American history! or did you?

[rastaman]

It's funnel all the public healthcare when the dust settles that's all that matters to obama iam more or less more upset he lies right too the american people without hesitation (that sir scares me) all my life i have gotten by simply but trusting people i guess that ok with the left but it bad when you have to fact check your own president.

1- I will not sign any bill with earmarks
2- 1.3 million to keep his public records out of reach why?
3- i support single pay
4- i don't support single pay
5- rushing bills through legislation saying ( we can't wait) and to top it off congress just giving it the thumbs up without even reading it.
6- removing the death panel portion of the bill that never existed Hilarious!

Are those not red flags? or do they need to be a certain color of red? sorry but trusting a president is pretty high on my list ( call me crazy)

Call me crazy but why can't we allow the conservatives to just keep their "For Profit Republican supporting Corporate healthcare system? After all, conservatives are so in love with privatization. And while were at it, lets remove every conservative Republican 65 and older off the "socialist" government run medicare and medicide over to the "For Profit Republican supporting Corporate healthcare system! And let the chips fall where they may. Then after all conservatives have switched over to their corporate gods of health care.......they must keep it for 30 years, and can't come crying and running back to a gov't run healthcare system.

Do we have deal???

[Bronx33]

Call me crazy but why can't we allow the conservatives to just keep their "For Profit Republican supporting Corporate healthcare system? After all, conservatives are so in love with privatization. And while were at it, lets remove every conservative Republican 65 and older off the "socialist" government run medicare and medicide over to the "For Profit Republican supporting Corporate healthcare system! And let the chips fall where they may. Then after all conservatives have switched over to their corporate gods of health care.......they must keep it for 30 years, and can't come crying and running back to a gov't run healthcare system.

Do we have deal???


First off iam not for dirty goverment ( never have been) i don't care what party is in charge but the lies and all the sneaky double talk and simply just not including very important parts in speeches is bullshyt. That's were obama fails on the transparency part i totally agree the healthcare system needs attention but i don't think a total goverment run overhaul is the answer i really don't think they have done their homework. I will also add just simply present the bill will all the facts and let the people decide i despise senators giving bills the thumbs up without even reading it i want goverment to work for the people not the party the dems are like a kid in a candy store and our futures are the shelf.


Also do the lies obama is telling even bother you?

[Bronx33]

So how much of a kickback is the health insurance industry paying you to post lies on the internet?

Iam working for free ;)

[Bronco Bob]

Iam working for free ;)

Stalin had a phrase for people like you.

[~Crash~]

Call me crazy but why can't we allow the conservatives to just keep their "For Profit Republican supporting Corporate healthcare system? After all, conservatives are so in love with privatization. And while were at it, lets remove every conservative Republican 65 and older off the "socialist" government run medicare and medicide over to the "For Profit Republican supporting Corporate healthcare system! And let the chips fall where they may. Then after all conservatives have switched over to their corporate gods of health care.......they must keep it for 30 years, and can't come crying and running back to a gov't run healthcare system.

Do we have deal???



sounds great so I don't have to pay fedral taxs any more ? deal !

[~Crash~]

Question should probably be why do "Conservative americans" hate Obama so much! After all, he's trying to work you guys.....why all the hatred, fearmongering, propaganda, and poor attitudes!

Gee Whiz conservatives......Grow up and stop your biiitching moaning and complaining.

Surely you conservatives didn't want "Palin and McCain" running the country at this crucial stage in American history! or did you?

you better lump in Independents they are leaving that leak ship you are on very fast.:curtsey:

[Bronx33]

Arlen spector even keeps the lie going. ( you will not lose your current health coverage)

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[Bronx33]

Question should probably be why do "Conservative americans" hate Obama so much! After all, he's trying to work you guys.....why all the hatred, fearmongering, propaganda, and poor attitudes!

Gee Whiz conservatives......Grow up and stop your biiitching moaning and complaining.

Surely you conservatives didn't want "Palin and McCain" running the country at this crucial stage in American history! or did you?


Obama and biden were not any better only difference was obama rode this hope and change BS and lied all the way into the whitehouse with promises and pretending to really care, the system needs more options when it comes to electing a new president sadly we are forced to pick between two losers iam sick and tired of having to pick the lesser of the two evils.