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baja
08-10-2009, 01:07 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134


Broncos Offense
WR 19 E. Royal 84 B. Lloyd 11 K. McKinley 12 M. Willis
LT 78 R. Clady 76 T. Polumbus 68 S. Bryant
LG 50 B. Hamilton 70. S. Olsen 60 M. McChesney
C 62 C. Wiegmann 67 K. Lichtensteiger 63 B. Schlueter
RG 73 C. Kuper 61 M. Erickson 72 P. Murray
RT 74 R. Harris 77 B. Gorin 71 C. Oldenburg
TE 89 D. Graham 88 T. Scheffler 81 R. Quinn 87 J. Putzier 85 M. Branson
WR 14 B. Stokley 83 N. Swift 13 T. Shelton
WR 19 J. Gaffney 15 B. Marshall 16 C. Jackson 17 C.J. Jones
QB 8 K.Orton 2 C. Simms 3 T. Brandstater
RB 28 C. Buckhalter 32 L. Jordan 22 P. Hillis 27 K. Moreno 42 R. Torain 34 D. Walker


Broncos Defense
DE 98 R. McBean 79 M. Thomas
NT 91 R. Fields 75 C. Baker 97 C. Powell
DE 90 K. Peterson 99 M. Askew 64 E. Pedescleaux 93 N. Clemons 65 R. Davis
OLB 57 M. Haggan 95 D. Reid 96 T. Crowder
ILB 55 D.J. Williams 59 W. Woodyard 51 L. Robinson
ILB 54 A. Davis 46 S. Larsen 48 B. Kelley
OLB 92 E. Dumervil 56 R. Ayers 94 J. Moss
LCB 24 C. Bailey 33 A. Smith 35 D.J. Johnson 40 R. Moulton
RCB 21 A. Goodman 26 J. Williams 25 J. Bell 37 T. Carter
SS 23 R. Hill 30 D. Bruton 36 J. Barrett
FS 20 B. Dawkins 31 D. McBath 39 V. Fox


Broncos Specialists
P 1 B. Kern 4 B. Colquitt
K 5 M. Prater
KO 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern 4 B. Colquitt
PR 33 A. Smith 12 M. Willis 13 T. Shelton
KR 33 A. Smith 12 M. Willis 13 T. Shelton
PC 66 L. Paxton 73 C. Kuper 88 T. Scheffler
KC 66 L. Paxton 73 C. Kuper 88 T. Scheffler
H 1 B. Kern 4 B. Colquitt 8 K. Orton
Rookie and First-Year players underlined

BabyTO
08-10-2009, 01:08 PM
baker already the top backup at NT. im expecting big things out of him, he has 2nd round talent.

dbfan21
08-10-2009, 01:09 PM
DENVER BRONCOS 2009 DEPTH CHART
(as of Aug. 10, 2009)

Broncos Offense
WR 19 E. Royal 84 B. Lloyd 11 K. McKinley 12 M. Willis
LT 78 R. Clady 76 T. Polumbus 68 S. Bryant
LG 50 B. Hamilton 70. S. Olsen 60 M. McChesney
C 62 C. Wiegmann 67 K. Lichtensteiger 63 B. Schlueter
RG 73 C. Kuper 61 M. Erickson 72 P. Murray
RT 74 R. Harris 77 B. Gorin 71 C. Oldenburg
TE 89 D. Graham 88 T. Scheffler 81 R. Quinn 87 J. Putzier 85 M. Branson
WR 14 B. Stokley 83 N. Swift 13 T. Shelton
WR 19 J. Gaffney 15 B. Marshall 16 C. Jackson 17 C.J. Jones
QB 8 K.Orton 2 C. Simms 3 T. Brandstater
RB 28 C. Buckhalter 32 L. Jordan 22 P. Hillis 27 K. Moreno 42 R. Torain
34 D. Walker



Broncos Defense
DE 98 R. McBean 79 M. Thomas
NT 91 R. Fields 75 C. Baker 97 C. Powell
DE 90 K. Peterson 99 M. Askew 64 E. Pedescleaux 93 N. Clemons 65 R. Davis
OLB 57 M. Haggan 95 D. Reid 96 T. Crowder
ILB 55 D.J. Williams 59 W. Woodyard 51 L. Robinson
ILB 54 A. Davis 46 S. Larsen 48 B. Kelley
OLB 92 E. Dumervil 56 R. Ayers 94 J. Moss
LCB 24 C. Bailey 33 A. Smith 35 D.J. Johnson 40 R. Moulton
RCB 21 A. Goodman 26 J. Williams 25 J. Bell 37 T. Carter
SS 23 R. Hill 30 D. Bruton 36 J. Barrett
FS 20 B. Dawkins 31 D. McBath 39 V. Fox



Broncos Specialists
P 1 B. Kern 4 B. Colquitt
K 5 M. Prater
KO 5 M. Prater 1 B. Kern 4 B. Colquitt
PR 33 A. Smith 12 M. Willis 13 T. Shelton
KR 33 A. Smith 12 M. Willis 13 T. Shelton
PC 66 L. Paxton 73 C. Kuper 88 T. Scheffler
KC 66 L. Paxton 73 C. Kuper 88 T. Scheffler
H 1 B. Kern 4 B. Colquitt 8 K. Orton

gunns
08-10-2009, 01:10 PM
Oh, there is so much to say there. Too much. I'll just wait for the next one

dbfan21
08-10-2009, 01:11 PM
Interesting to see Crowder 3rd at his respective position....

Rock Chalk
08-10-2009, 01:12 PM
Damn Crowder has had a great camp and is still 3rd? WTF.

lex
08-10-2009, 01:13 PM
This more to motivate than it is to accurately reflect who truly would play.

UberBroncoMan
08-10-2009, 01:13 PM
More interesting is how Marshall isn't high on the depth chart at all, meanwhile Dawkins (who is also injured) is still first string.

BigPlayShay
08-10-2009, 01:14 PM
Interesting, Marshall listed as 2nd team WR behind Gaffney. Now, he is injured, but at the same time Dawkins is injured as well but is listed as starting safety.


Also, Royal not listed at all as Kick or Punt Returner.

manchambo
08-10-2009, 01:14 PM
Looks like we might be seeing the end of both Moss and Crowder. (I wonder why Shanahan doesn't coach Denver anymore?)

UberBroncoMan
08-10-2009, 01:15 PM
Oh... also notice how Royal is not even listed as a PR/KR.

Rock Chalk
08-10-2009, 01:16 PM
This more to motivate than it is to accurately reflect who truly would play.

Its not often I agree with you but I think this is probably right.

Crowder, from everything Ive seen, has been the best OLB we have.

UberBroncoMan
08-10-2009, 01:16 PM
Interesting, Marshall listed as 2nd team WR behind Gaffney. Now, he is injured, but at the same time Dawkins is injured as well but is listed as starting safety.


Also, Royal not listed at all as Kick or Punt Returner.

Seriously wtf just happened lol.

BigPlayShay
08-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Seriously wtf just happened lol.

Get out of my head LOL

Black59Razor
08-10-2009, 01:22 PM
Looks like Crowder's contributions so far in camp have been over-stated and over reported.

He was a turd in his first two years in the NFL, and now some are expecting him to suddenly see the light?

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 01:23 PM
Its not often I agree with you but I think this is probably right.

Crowder, from everything Ive seen, has been the best OLB we have.

I agree.

Rock Chalk
08-10-2009, 01:24 PM
Looks like Crowder's contributions so far in camp have been over-stated and over reported.

He was a turd in his first two yerars in the NFL, and now some are expecting him to suddenly see the light?

Yeah but the thing is, he hasnt been overrated in camp. He hasnt missed assignments and has been making plays.

Haggan on the other hand I havent seen **** out of. Reid has been having a good camp but Haggan?

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 01:24 PM
Looks like Crowder's contributions so far in camp have been over-stated and over reported.

He was a turd in his first two years in the NFL, and now some are expecting him to suddenly see the light?

I don't think so, seeing as how almost every single camp reporter (both here and the media) has been giving him praise.

Oh, did you forget the 2007 season too?

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 01:25 PM
Yeah but the thing is, he hasnt been overrated in camp. He hasnt missed assignments and has been making plays.

Haggan on the other hand I havent seen **** out of. Reid has been having a good camp but Haggan?

I know that there was one day where I think Buff, SoCal and maybe Khan had all mentioned that Haggan was blowing **** up everywhere, but that is the extent of what I've read so far.

Irish Stout
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
hmmm... wonder how much of this is part of the "Patriot-way" - deceive and decline to reveal what exactly is going on.

The fact that LaMont is second at RB when everything I hear is that he has sucked confuses me.

Black59Razor
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
Seriously wtf just happened lol.

You don't want what could be your No. 1 receiver returning kicks, and Alphonso is good at it, so it is a better job for him as a nickle corner.

Carolina doesn't have Steve Smith returning kicks anymore, either.

Marshall couldn't physically play right now, so it makes sense to list Gafney as the starter.

Other than that, not many caught that the Broncos would start one RB with three wides...kinda a glaring over-sight by the camp heads.

Rock Chalk
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
I wasnt there that day Florida but I can hardly believe one practice on one day would move up up to the #1 spot over two guys that have had great total camps.

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 01:28 PM
I wasnt there that day Florida but I can hardly believe one practice on one day would move up up to the #1 spot over two guys that have had great total camps.

Yeah, I agree.

Black59Razor
08-10-2009, 01:28 PM
I don't think so, seeing as how almost every single camp reporter (both here and the media) has been giving him praise.

Oh, did you forget the 2007 season too?

2007?

So what?

How is he listed third on the depth chart now behind a re-tread journeyman type in Haggan, and a guy who has never played OLB either in Reid?

If Crowder were having as good a camp as some suggest, he would be the starter by now, period.

Crowder is and always has been a disappointment from the day he stepped foot in a Broncos camp.

It just goes to show that the camp reports, regardless of who they are from are nothing more than for entertainment purposes. The playing time any player gets represents nothing more than their opportunity to make the team. It says nothing about the after practice evaluations and what the coaches thought of their work.

underrated29
08-10-2009, 01:33 PM
I guarantee that crowder makes the team.

I think people are looking to hard at this. Josh ahs already said that the depth chart will be fluid. Meaning things will be changing early and often. Dont start freaking out just yet.

I am surprised that Nate swift is ahead of Chad jackson though. Although Chad is behind two good players so i am not to worried.



The dawkins thing, about the only reason i can come up with is that he will be back in the 10-15 days that they reported. And thats why he is still #1 where as marshall will not be back for a few more weeks and that is why he is #2.

Irish Stout
08-10-2009, 01:35 PM
Other than that, not many caught that the Broncos would start one RB with three wides...kinda a glaring over-sight by the camp heads.

Ummm...???? Probably because not every play in camp shows who the starters or going to be nor does the depth chart depict what the starting formations are going to be.... just because they left a third set of WRs for the slot and didn't put a place for FBs doesn't mean that the camp guys overlooked anything. How were they supposed to know how the depth chart would turn out when they clearly witnessed 2 back formations and single back formations.

Rock Chalk
08-10-2009, 01:36 PM
2007?

So what?

How is he listed third on the depth chart now behind a re-tread journeyman type in Haggan, and a guy who has never played OLB either in Reid?

If Crowder were having as good a camp as some suggest, he would be the starter by now, period.

Crowder is and always has been a disappointment from the day he stepped foot in a Broncos camp.

It just goes to show that the camp reports, regardless of who they are from are nothing more than for entertainment purposes. The playing time any player gets represents nothing more than their opportunity to make the team. It says nothing about the after practice evaluations and what the coaches thought of their work.

You are correct.

But then this depth chart doesnt mean a whole lot either. We'll see on opening day.

BroncoMan4ever
08-10-2009, 01:46 PM
guess Torain isn't having the amazing camp so many are claiming he has, if he is listed behind everyone but Walker.

Rock Chalk
08-10-2009, 01:49 PM
guess Torain isn't having the amazing camp so many are claiming he has, if he is listed behind everyone but Walker.

Torain was really only good the first couple of days of camp. Since he has been just a bit above average but nothing spectacular.

Killericon
08-10-2009, 01:50 PM
guess Torain isn't having the amazing camp so many are claiming he has, if he is listed behind everyone but Walker.

This Depth Chart is most certainly a motivating tool. Notice how both Ayers(2nd) and Moreno(4th) aren't starting.

Kaylore
08-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Keep an eye on Chris Baker.

_Oro_
08-10-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't know why people are taking shots at the reports. Those guys are performing a great service and providing us with a lot more useful info than this depth chart.

listopencil
08-10-2009, 02:02 PM
Our starting lineup is a 3WR set? Wow. Heh. I'm thinking it's a statement. Both to Marshall that we are willing to move on without him, and to the RB's that the situation is fluid.

PRBronco
08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Hmm, Dawkins' backup is listed as McBath, but Bruton has been filling in his spot. Is Bruton that far ahead that they'll play him in the other safety spot?
Do they have Dawkins and Hill mixed up in SS/FS positions on the chart?

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 02:04 PM
2007?

So what? You said Crowder never did anything as a Bronco. I see you forgot the pretty impressive 2007 season.

How is he listed third on the depth chart now behind a re-tread journeyman type in Haggan, and a guy who has never played OLB either in Reid? Good question. I do believe Haggan was a SLB before though, although I might be mistaken.

If Crowder were having as good a camp as some suggest, he would be the starter by now, period. Not necessarily.

Crowder is and always has been a disappointment from the day he stepped foot in a Broncos camp. False. See above regarding 2007 season. Also he was supposedly having health issues last year.

It just goes to show that the camp reports, regardless of who they are from are nothing more than for entertainment purposes. The playing time any player gets represents nothing more than their opportunity to make the team. It says nothing about the after practice evaluations and what the coaches thought of their work. Generally, I'd agree, but when everyone has been singing Crowder's praises and Haggan has been basically silent, I'd say there is more than than meets the eyes.

But then this depth chart doesnt mean a whole lot either. We'll see on opening day.

Yeah. I think it'll be alot different come Friday night.

PRBronco
08-10-2009, 02:05 PM
I don't know why people are taking shots at the reports. Those guys are performing a great service and providing us with a lot more useful info than this depth chart.

That happens every year, it's mind boggling. "You idiots who spend hours at camp and then write out everything you see for us didn't predict the future at all, wtf??!!"

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 02:05 PM
Hmm, Dawkins' backup is listed as McBath, but Bruton has been filling in his spot. Is Bruton that far ahead that they'll play him in the other safety spot?
Do they have Dawkins and Hill mixed up in SS/FS positions on the chart?

That's another one that got me. Bruton and Barrett have both been playing in Dawkin's absence, and Dawkins is supposed to be the SS right?

Seriously, wtf happened here? ???

lostknight
08-10-2009, 02:06 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134
Broncos Offense
WR 19 E. Royal 84 B. Lloyd 11 K. McKinley 12 M. Willis
WR 14 B. Stokley 83 N. Swift 13 T. Shelton
WR 19 J. Gaffney 15 B. Marshall 16 C. Jackson 17 C.J. Jones


This tells you everything you need to know about McDaniels. It's his way with his people, talent be damned.

How the hell do you still have Jordan in front of Hillis?

Kaylore
08-10-2009, 02:13 PM
This tells you everything you need to know about McDaniels. It's his way with his people, talent be damned.

How the hell do you still have Jordan in front of Hillis?

::) The depth chart really means very little in terms of who gets how much playing time - especially with McDaniels. You'll see them use the best guys to attack a defense each week. This doesn't mean that Hillis will ride the pine.

Lolad
08-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Our starting lineup is a 3WR set? Wow. Heh. I'm thinking it's a statement. Both to Marshall that we are willing to move on without him, and to the RB's that the situation is fluid.

**** that! it better not be, I still don't get it though. How it's listed.... when Marshall does come back and is healthy where the hell does Gaffney go? Do we move Royal to the slot and put Gaffney @ the X?

Rabb
08-10-2009, 02:16 PM
This tells you everything you need to know about McDaniels. It's his way with his people, talent be damned.

How the hell do you still have Jordan in front of Hillis?

My God, seriously?

Marshall is hurt and has missed some practices, Gaffney is not....are you really telling me that if they played a game that meant something tomorrow they would start the hurt guy?

These rankings mean nothing but motivation at this point. You also do realize that there is no FB spot listed there, which Hillis would no doubt have locked down. Not to mention anyone that has actually been to a camp, read a paper or any report from the fine people here that have gone to camp would know that Hillis is FAR from being overlooked.

Some of you people are so anti-McDaniels that you are letting it ruin you rooting for your team and enjoying the best sport there is by twisting anything to fit the debate. That is sad for you.

I don't mean to be harsh or target you specifically...but anyone that thinks McDaniels hasn't held possibly the best training camp we have seen in a decade hasn't been paying attention. The man knows what he is doing, period.

Lolad
08-10-2009, 02:16 PM
This tells you everything you need to know about McDaniels. It's his way with his people, talent be damned.

How the hell do you still have Jordan in front of Hillis?

You don't, I don't get this depth chart but I'll wait till we get in a regular season game before I throw too much of a fit

chrisp
08-10-2009, 02:17 PM
Although I've been waiting for this for ages, the sad truth is that untill the cuts happen and the live bullets start flying this means nothing.

underrated29
08-10-2009, 02:30 PM
::) The depth chart really means very little in terms of who gets how much playing time - especially with McDaniels. You'll see them use the best guys to attack a defense each week. This doesn't mean that Hillis will ride the pine.



So nice it needs to be seen twice ^

Al Wilson 4 Mayor
08-10-2009, 02:36 PM
Damn Crowder has had a great camp and is still 3rd? WTF.

He was in the dog house for being late to a meeting, I think.

CoopDawg
08-10-2009, 02:51 PM
Moreno should be a little higher than 4th on the depth chart by the time its all set.

Atwater His Ass
08-10-2009, 03:01 PM
2007?

So what?

How is he listed third on the depth chart now behind a re-tread journeyman type in Haggan, and a guy who has never played OLB either in Reid?

If Crowder were having as good a camp as some suggest, he would be the starter by now, period.

Crowder is and always has been a disappointment from the day he stepped foot in a Broncos camp.

It just goes to show that the camp reports, regardless of who they are from are nothing more than for entertainment purposes. The playing time any player gets represents nothing more than their opportunity to make the team. It says nothing about the after practice evaluations and what the coaches thought of their work.

There is a lot of truth in this post, eventhough the homers don't want to hear it.

Maybe if Crowder spends some extra time stretching after practice, he'll get bumped up the chart!

Taco John
08-10-2009, 03:03 PM
Looks like some mind games going on with this release.

Atwater His Ass
08-10-2009, 03:06 PM
I don't know why people are taking shots at the reports. Those guys are performing a great service and providing us with a lot more useful info than this depth chart.

I guess I just don't get this POV.

I'll agree that it is cool that there are some fans at the camps (some spending some bucks to make it there). I think it's cool the relationship that the mane is developing with the Bronco organization as well. How that relationship matures in the long run though, I'll wait and see.

But most of the reports are nothing more than fluff pieces. After reading them you'd think we'd win the Super Bowl with our rookies and 3rd team guys.

At the end of the day I view it as fans that get to have the unique experience of watching some training camp of their favorite team and they write up their opinions to give us somethig to talk about until September. It also allows all of us that don't have the opportunity to go to camp to live a littel vicariously through them. But I don't put a lot of stock nor value into the actual content of their reports.

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 03:13 PM
He was in the dog house for being late to a meeting, I think.

Link? First I've heard of this.

FireFly
08-10-2009, 03:15 PM
This more to motivate than it is to accurately reflect who truly would play.

I agree completely. I'd be surprised if the final depth chart looked anything like this.

That being said, in the case of someone like Crowder, I don't know if it IS motivational to leave him at 3rd. He does his best to save his career, has a great training camp and doesn't get acknowledged for it? I don't know?

FireFly
08-10-2009, 03:16 PM
This Depth Chart is most certainly a motivating tool. Notice how both Ayers(2nd) and Moreno(4th) aren't starting.

Yeah, but in both cases their not starting on opening day is a very real possibility.

Florida_Bronco
08-10-2009, 03:16 PM
But most of the reports are nothing more than fluff pieces. After reading them you'd think we'd win the Super Bowl with our rookies and 3rd team guys. I disagree. Of all the camp reports I've read (and there have been many) I find them to usually be pretty accurate.

TheReverend
08-10-2009, 03:21 PM
Damn Crowder has had a great camp and is still 3rd? WTF.

I lol'd hard

underrated29
08-10-2009, 03:23 PM
I guess I just don't get this POV.

I'll agree that it is cool that there are some fans at the camps (some spending some bucks to make it there). I think it's cool the relationship that the mane is developing with the Bronco organization as well. How that relationship matures in the long run though, I'll wait and see.

But most of the reports are nothing more than fluff pieces. After reading them you'd think we'd win the Super Bowl with our rookies and 3rd team guys.

At the end of the day I view it as fans that get to have the unique experience of watching some training camp of their favorite team and they write up their opinions to give us somethig to talk about until September. It also allows all of us that don't have the opportunity to go to camp to live a littel vicariously through them. But I don't put a lot of stock nor value into the actual content of their reports.


I half way agree with you here..

But kay,socal etc. they do a good job reporting. And they do tell you who stood out in camp. They never say oh yeah he stood out and is going to the probowl.

In my reports which arent great, you can also see that i grade on talent not my orange glasses. Ex being that i like Lamont Jordan and dont like buck. BUt in all my reports (3) i say that jordan didnt look so hot and buck was pretty impressive. I also criticize a bunch of QB throws, and footwork of players and such. I try to be as non bias as possible and just write what i see. Not waht i want. I am a tough critic when analyzing players.

I think the other guys do too. But like i said i agree with the other half of what you say.


- And of course there will always be a little homerism in there. It just happens.

TheReverend
08-10-2009, 03:26 PM
Holy christ people are reading way too into this depth chart and attacking people who went out of their way to provide us with a service for free...?

This is the INITIAL PRE-SEASON depth chart. Likely it's coaches wanting guys to get an opportunity and see how they stack up against what they feel is more "known" commodities.

September is still a month away...

lostknight
08-10-2009, 03:43 PM
My God, seriously?
These rankings mean nothing but motivation at this point.


Hence the sending of a message to marshall. Did the Broncos drop Rod Smith when he was injured?

The man knows what he is doing, period.

That very much remains to be seen. I for one will stay away from the koolaide until the coach wins a superbowl or two.

Mogulseeker
08-10-2009, 03:53 PM
Surprising: Marshall, Moreno and Hills, Ayers at OLB

Hopeful: Rulon Davis to make the final cut.

TheReverend
08-10-2009, 04:04 PM
Hillis is #3 because he's white.

footstepsfrom#27
08-10-2009, 04:08 PM
Call me in a 3 weeks.

baja
08-10-2009, 04:10 PM
Holy christ people are reading way too into this depth chart and attacking people who went out of their way to provide us with a service for free...?

This is the INITIAL PRE-SEASON depth chart. Likely it's coaches wanting guys to get an opportunity and see how they stack up against what they feel is more "known" commodities.

September is still a month away...

According to my calender september is 21 days away

Broncoman13
08-10-2009, 04:11 PM
What is funny is the fact that McD touched on this yesterday and mentioned a couple LBs that gave a less than stellar effort and therefore dropped for the day. He carefully mentioned not to read too much into it... but that won't stop the Maners.

I guarantee that crowder makes the team.

I think people are looking to hard at this. Josh ahs already said that the depth chart will be fluid. Meaning things will be changing early and often. Dont start freaking out just yet.

I am surprised that Nate swift is ahead of Chad jackson though. Although Chad is behind two good players so i am not to worried.



The dawkins thing, about the only reason i can come up with is that he will be back in the 10-15 days that they reported. And thats why he is still #1 where as marshall will not be back for a few more weeks and that is why he is #2.

Cool Breeze
08-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Hillis is #3 because he's white.

This is suprising

tsiguy96
08-10-2009, 04:17 PM
there is no FB listed...interesting.

Rohirrim
08-10-2009, 04:26 PM
The Mighty McChesney is climbing up the boards. ;D

outdoor_miner
08-10-2009, 04:27 PM
What is funny is the fact that McD touched on this yesterday and mentioned a couple LBs that gave a less than stellar effort and therefore dropped for the day. He carefully mentioned not to read too much into it... but that won't stop the Maners.

Thanks. I had missed this comment from McDaniels, but I went in and found it in an article for anyone who is curious what he said:

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_13027959

Haggan's turn with the first team meant fewer reps for Tim Crowder and especially Darrell Reid on Sunday, when McDan- iels said a couple of the outside linebackers were in his "doghouse" because they "loafed a little bit too much for my liking." Still, don't expect starters to be named soon. "None of that stuff is going to start separating itself until we go through a few preseason games," McDaniels said.

tonngo0
08-10-2009, 04:34 PM
the thing is what other position is Paxton playing other than long snapper. Leach was the same, cheaper and as an emergency TE.

DenverBrit
08-10-2009, 04:40 PM
A caution flag on the Broncos’ depth chart
by Jeff Legwold on August 10, 2009

Yes, it is a depth chart.

Yes, it was prepared by those who will help make the roster decisions at the Broncos’ Dove Valley complex, but it certainly isn’t carved into granite.

So, take it for what it is — a possible depth chart.

Example: Rookie Darcel McBath is formally listed as Brian Dawkins’ backup at free safety, but it is actually David Bruton who has practiced there in place of the injured Dawkins in recent days.

Example: Rookie running back Knowshon Moreno is listed fourth among running backs, but if he were really fourth he would not have taken reps with the first-team offense in his first day of training camp practice after an eight-day delay to get his contract done.

Example: Kory Lichtensteiger is listed as the backup center, but it was guard Ben Hamilton who moved over to center on the days starting center Casey Wiegmann was not on the field. Rookie Seth Olsen then played in Hamilton’s left guard spot.

So, it is a depth chart and it is a reference tool. It just may not be what the Broncos actually do on gameday.

Lolad
08-10-2009, 04:42 PM
its safe to say we are keeping all 3 of our DT's lol!

tsiguy96
08-10-2009, 04:45 PM
the safety thing weirded me out, if this was a gameday situation who would fill in for dawkins? has mcbath done ANYTHING this offseason? havent heard his name much.

Bigdawg26
08-10-2009, 07:44 PM
Well I'm surpised people arent talking about Marcus Thomas finally coming from the NT position to behing Ryan Mcbean. I think in a week or two he will take Mcbean's spot. Also I think Ayers will take Haggans spot on the depth chart because I seriously doubt Dumervil will get off the field with his pass rushing ability. Ayers/Davis/Williams/Dum will be a good LB core. With Thomas/Baker(who i think will be steal)/Peterson will be a pretty good D-line.
Also to touch on Dawkins back-up I thought the back up safeties were Burton and Barrett.

broncosteven
08-10-2009, 07:54 PM
What is funny is the fact that McD touched on this yesterday and mentioned a couple LBs that gave a less than stellar effort and therefore dropped for the day. He carefully mentioned not to read too much into it... but that won't stop the Maners.

THis is what I saw when I read your post:

What is funny is the fact that McDouched on this yesterday

broncosteven
08-10-2009, 07:57 PM
This more to motivate than it is to accurately reflect who truly would play.

Does this mean Simms is #2 for motivation?

lex
08-10-2009, 07:59 PM
Does this mean Simms is #2 for motivation?

In that case, there is pressure for Orton to play/start so to justify the Cutler trade.

skunk
08-10-2009, 08:05 PM
This more to motivate than it is to accurately reflect who truly would play.

serious post: anyone who is taking this as a day one list or getting upset about or excited is wasting finger movements.

this is not worth debating. bye.

:flower:

missingnumber7
08-10-2009, 08:12 PM
Isn't this the same guy that used to list rookies ahead of vets in NE to see how said rookies would work in practice and see how the vets would respond?

montrose
08-10-2009, 09:07 PM
Keep in mind where our HC came from before making judgments on a public depth chart.

McDman
08-10-2009, 09:35 PM
It looks like Pedesclauex might make the team, but Davis might get cut. I'm rooting for Davis, but it doesn't look good.

theAPAOps5
08-10-2009, 09:43 PM
Holy christ people are reading way too into this depth chart and attacking people who went out of their way to provide us with a service for free...?

This is the INITIAL PRE-SEASON depth chart. Likely it's coaches wanting guys to get an opportunity and see how they stack up against what they feel is more "known" commodities.

September is still a month away...

I love how tools like Atwater his Ass call out camp reporters that are doing something for free as fluff writers. Dude can go eff himself for all I care.

BroncoMan4ever
08-10-2009, 10:29 PM
Oh... also notice how Royal is not even listed as a PR/KR.

i am happy about that. he is going to end up having the ball in his hands a lot this season. he is going to be targeted in the passing game probably around 120 times at least, add in the occasional reverse he is going to run, and just other random plays where we want the ball in his hands. he is going to be the focal point of our offense, no need to risk injury using him as a return man. especially when McKinley, Jackson or a few other guys can take over that role.

MVP-06
08-11-2009, 07:14 AM
this really doesnt matter until we see them in real game situations

Irish Stout
08-11-2009, 07:39 AM
When do we have to make our first cuts? Isn't it after this first game we have to trim down to 70 something?

TailgateNut
08-11-2009, 07:45 AM
I don't see Jay C untler on the chart.
What happened???:spit:

SoDak Bronco
08-11-2009, 07:47 AM
First Roster Cuts - Sept 1st

Final 53 Roster- Sept 5tb

tsiguy96
08-11-2009, 08:33 AM
until we see the 2nd or 3rd depth chart we dont realy know anything...hope mcbath makes a splash soon though

Popps
08-11-2009, 09:53 AM
Great to see Thomas at DE. Hope he's committed himself to making a big impact this year. Seems like a great fit for him.