You're Not Going to Believe This!

[Rohirrim]

Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse.

Honest. This isn’t a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.

Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=haught_29_5

[Rohirrim]

Now, added to the other suspicions, comes the goofy possibility that abstruse, supernatural, idiotic, laughable Bible prophecies were a factor. This casts an ominous pall over the needless war that has killed more than four thousand young Americans and cost U.S. taxpayers perhaps $1 trillion.

[TailgateNut]

Oh, I believe it

[Dukes]

Amazing someone bat**** crazy can become president.

[Broncosfreak_56]

:spit:

[footstepsfrom#27]

Weird...the identity of "Gog and Magog" are historically unclear and disputed but currently are usually attributed to Russia by most of the popular prophecy buffs Bush has probably been exposed to. Stranger yet...the conflict is usually attributed to apocalyptic references in the Old Testament that seem to foreshadow the final conflict...ie; Armageddon, the final battle at the end of the age that produces a world war in the middle east involving four world powers, the West led by a restructured Roman empire (Europe, US), a norther confederacy (Russia, Syria, Iran, etc), a southern power (Egypt, Arab allies) and the "kings of the east" (China). The conflict occurs in the valley of Megiddo in Israel and it's launched not by western powers but by the northern confederacy (Russia). Christian theology normally tends to look at this as something to be avoided as long as possible, certainly not embraced as something to be pursued.

Bush should have paid more attention in church.

What a wack job.

[loborugger]

Oddly enough - follow this thru...

Gog and Magog invade Israel where they are stopped stone cold by Israel.

So, if you believe in the biblical principles, why would you want to stand in the way of prophesied events? God is going to take care of that army, he doesnt need anyone else's assistant.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Oddly enough - follow this thru...

Gog and Magog invade Israel where they are stopped stone cold by Israel.

So, if you believe in the biblical principles, why would you want to stand in the way of prophesied events? God is going to take care of that army, he doesnt need anyone else's assistant.
None of Bush's logic on this, or for that matter, any other issue...makes a lot of sense. I think he was simply an incompetent imbecile that parlayed his daddy's name and GOP support from social conservatives into an office he had no business being in. Bush couldn't even manage an executive role in an oil company without screwing the pooch...why be surprised if he failed miserably in the toughest job in the world?

[Rohirrim]

The rightards are so upset about us blowing $2 billion on the cash for clunkers program, but not a peep about the $1 trillion we blew on trying to fulfill biblical prophesy? :rofl:

[SPfloppy]

Are we really discussing this? While there isn't proff that this is valid or false I'm gonna side with common sense on this and believe that nobody who holds a public office in the United States of America is this brain washed or crazy (depending on your point of religious view)

[Rigs11]

The rightards are so upset about us blowing $2 billion on the cash for clunkers program, but not a peep about the $1 trillion we blew on trying to fulfill biblical prophesy? :rofl:

It's actually going to cost us 3 trillion. But the rightards are ok with it. As long as it wasn't spent here in the US.Thats socialism!

[alkemical]

Weird...the identity of "Gog and Magog" are historically unclear and disputed but currently are usually attributed to Russia by most of the popular prophecy buffs Bush has probably been exposed to. Stranger yet...the conflict is usually attributed to apocalyptic references in the Old Testament that seem to foreshadow the final conflict...ie; Armageddon, the final battle at the end of the age that produces a world war in the middle east involving four world powers, the West led by a restructured Roman empire (Europe, US), a norther confederacy (Russia, Syria, Iran, etc), a southern power (Egypt, Arab allies) and the "kings of the east" (China). The conflict occurs in the valley of Megiddo in Israel and it's launched not by western powers but by the northern confederacy (Russia). Christian theology normally tends to look at this as something to be avoided as long as possible, certainly not embraced as something to be pursued.

Bush should have paid more attention in church.

What a wack job.

Like Rev. Moon and the moonies?

[alkemical]

Oddly enough - follow this thru...

Gog and Magog invade Israel where they are stopped stone cold by Israel.

So, if you believe in the biblical principles, why would you want to stand in the way of prophesied events? God is going to take care of that army, he doesnt need anyone else's assistant.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_i4bChuGgQGo/SKXdeS3-zHI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/_NpHWsWl-NM/s400/signs+of+satan.jpg


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jXK087ZJfNY/SI3-aQPAEsI/AAAAAAAACKw/oihCwtBNRkc/s320/ObamaSatanBushHandSign.JPG

[TailgateNut]

I'm gonna side with common sense on this and believe that nobody who holds a public office in the United States of America is this brain washed or crazy (depending on your point of religious view)

That's why so many (40%) voted for Dumbya a second time. They all BELIEVED no one could be that brain washed.

[Meck77]

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/012305/nat_2842992.shtml

I guess Longhorn fans are connected to satan now...lmfao

click photo to enlarge
President Bush gestures the "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute of the University of Texas Longhorns as he and his family watch the Inaugural Parade Thursday Jan. 20, 2005, in Washington. President Bush's "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute got lost in translation in Norway, where shocked people interpreted his hand gesture during his inauguration as a salute to Satan.
AP Photo

[alkemical]

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/012305/nat_2842992.shtml

I guess Longhorn fans are connected to satan now...lmfao

click photo to enlarge
President Bush gestures the "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute of the University of Texas Longhorns as he and his family watch the Inaugural Parade Thursday Jan. 20, 2005, in Washington. President Bush's "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute got lost in translation in Norway, where shocked people interpreted his hand gesture during his inauguration as a salute to Satan.
AP Photo

So is clinton a long horns fan?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/satanist_clinton.jpg

Or king abdullah?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/abdullah_satan_sign.jpg

the french pm?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/sarcozy-presidentfrance-satanic.jpg


dick cheney?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/dick_cheney_satanic_salute.jpg

The italian PM?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/satanist-italian_primeminister.jpg


Maybe these guys?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/amysalu3.jpg



http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/210105hand1.jpg

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/210105hand2.jpg

The first image Represents the horned god of witchcraft. Pan or Cernunnos. Note the thumb under the fingers and given by the right hand. The second image is a sign of recognition between those in the Occult. When pointed at someone it is meant to place a curse. Note the thumb over the fingers and given by the left hand.


I mean, bush is only in this club:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/cremation_of_care.jpg

[barryr]

And gaff gets routinely hammered for the threads he starts and beliefs. This one is just like those.

[Northman]

Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East

So he waits until he is out of office to spill the beans? Um, ok.

[Mr.Meanie]

You're right, I don't believe it.

[Rohirrim]

Bush said nearly the same thing to Bob Woodward. What's with the surprise?

[Northman]

I guess the surprise for me is why isnt it bigger news? There has to be some reason why the media isnt running with it full throttle. And why wait until after the fact to come out and make these claims? I mean, if im Chirac im not going to wait to tell the world that George Bush Jr. is a headcase and allow him to invade a country based upon his fanatical outlook. There are just too many unanswered questions here.

[Bob]

Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic agents of the Apocalypse.

Honest. This isn’t a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.

Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=haught_29_5

Have you heard the recording? Or do we need to trust secular humanism group? At work I cant click on the link...

[Rohirrim]

I guess the surprise for me is why isnt it bigger news? There has to be some reason why the media isnt running with it full throttle. And why wait until after the fact to come out and make these claims? I mean, if im Chirac im not going to wait to tell the world that George Bush Jr. is a headcase and allow him to invade a country based upon his fanatical outlook. There are just too many unanswered questions here.

Well, if you were the head of a country and the leader of the most powerful country on Earth just told you he is going to invade another country because of biblical prophecy, would you do something to piss him off? Hilarious!

[Northman]

Well, if you were the head of a country and the leader of the most powerful country on Earth just told you he is going to invade another country because of biblical prophecy, would you do something to piss him off? Hilarious!


If i thought he was a nutcase? Oh yea. Considering a good portion of the countries didnt like his WMD theories i highly doubt Chirac would of been that scared to come clean with what Dubya told him. But then again he is from France.

[Rohirrim]

If i thought he was a nutcase? Oh yea. Considering a good portion of the countries didnt like his WMD theories i highly doubt Chirac would of been that scared to come clean with what Dubya told him. But then again he is from France.

Realistically? It would be the diplomatic equivalent of an atomic bomb for a sitting French president to broadcast this conversation. I don't doubt that it added to the numerous reasons France didn't join the action against Iraq.

[Northman]

Realistically? It would be the diplomatic equivalent of an atomic bomb for a sitting French president to broadcast this conversation. I don't doubt that it added to the numerous reasons France didn't join the action against Iraq.


If indeed true i would agree.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's actually going to cost us 3 trillion. But the rightards are ok with it. As long as it wasn't spent here in the US.Thats socialism!

:yep:

There's no crime they won't overlook as long as Bush or some other repug is the guilty party.