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SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 07:28 PM
Sorry for the long delay. There was very, very little to report about this practice. It was another "mental walkthrough" this time, with very little of substance. I think they were probably just cooling down after yesterday's evening's scrimmage.

The team generally just worked on installation at a quarter pace. It was very laid back. They are sure putting in alot of plays. This will be a very multiple offense initially, until they get a feel for favorite calls in down and distance situations. The team continued with its extended stretching periods, although there was no gassers at the end of practice, as they apparently let the rookies and veterans off from that task when Kenny Peterson (for the vets) and Chris Baker (for the rookies) caught a punt. Everyone cheered when they didn't muff the punts as no one wanted to run.

In addition to Marshall and Dawkins, Woodyard did not practice today. Barrett filled in for him at the nickel LB spot beside DJ (despite being a natural S). Even though it was only a walkthrough, they did allow Brandstater to go up against the first team defense, even if things weren't done live, which I thought was interesting. Montrose was classic again with his Alphonso man-crush. Smith was going up against Chad Jackson and he shouted out "you don't want none of that Chad" which Chad noticed. :)
Simms still has this huge problem with hesitancy in the pocket. He just doesn't process information in an efficient manner. He just isn't fast enough in that regard. He's so hesitant to make a decision. We also noticed Torain getting some reps.

Given that this was my final practice, here is my look at the final 53:

QB's
1. Kyle Orton
2. Chris Simms
(Brandstater to PS)

RB's
3. Peyton Hillis
4. Knowshon Moreno
5. Correll Buckhalter
6. Lamont Jordan


WR's
7. Brandon Marshall (Unless he starts season out on PUP, which Montrose said he wouldn't be surprised if he did)
8. Eddie Royal
9. Jabar Gaffney
10. Brandon Stokley
11. Brandon Lloyd
12. Kenny McKinley

TE's
13. Tony Scheffler
14. Daniel Graham
15. Richard Quinn

OL
16. Ryan Clady
17. Ben Hamilton
18. Casey Weigmann
19. Chris Kuper
20. Ryan Harris
21. Kory Lichtensteiger
22. Seth Olsen
23. Tyler Polumbus (despite a poor camp so far)
24. Brandon Gorin

DL
25. Ron Fields
26. Marcus Thomas
27. Kenny Peterson
28. Chris Baker
29. Carlton Powell
30. J'Vonne Parker (assuming his injury was not serious)
31. Mattias Askew

LB
32. DJ Williams
33. Andra Davis
34. Tim Crowder
35. Elvis Dumervil
36. Robert Ayers
37. Darrell Reid
38. Wesley Woodyard
39. Spencer Larsen
40. Mario Haggan (Solid Camp)

CB
41. Champ Bailey
42. Andre Goodman
43. Jack Mother ****ing Williams
44. Alphonso Smith
45. Tony Carter

S
46. Brian Dawkins
47. Renaldo Hill
48. David Bruton
49. Josh Barrett
50. Darcel McBath

ST
51. Lonnie Paxton
52. Brett Kern
53. Matt Prater

LAST FIVE IN
Tony Carter
Mario Haggan
Matthias Askew
Lamont Jordan
Tyler Polumbus

LAST FIVE OUT
Ryan Torain
Jarvis Moss
Chad Jackson
Nate Swift
Ryan McBean

BMarsh615
08-07-2009, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the report!

With all the love that Torain is getting from the camp reports, why do you have him getting cut?

I would like to see the backfield go... Moreno, Hillis, Buckhalter, Torain...

akaspaz
08-07-2009, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the great reports.

FireFly
08-07-2009, 07:39 PM
LAST FIVE OUT
Ryan Torain
Jarvis Moss
Chad Jackson
Nate Swift
Ryan McBean

Really? I'm kinda hoping that Torain makes it somehow and I still have secret hope for Chad Jackson - don't ask me why.

FireFly
08-07-2009, 07:40 PM
Do we think that Moss will end up playing for another team? Or will he be done with football?

watermock
08-07-2009, 07:41 PM
*ugg*

I'd hoped for alot more defense in the draft, and not losing 1 if not 2 probowl players on offense.

Our D is going to struggle and frankly, we're weaker on Offense.

colonelbeef
08-07-2009, 07:48 PM
interesting, thanks

SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the report!

With all the love that Torain is getting from the camp reports, why do you have him getting cut?

I would like to see the backfield go... Moreno, Hillis, Buckhalter, Torain...

I think its a very, very close battle between Torain and Jordan for the last RB spot. It took some time to choose between the two. I don't think Torain has gotten alot of love so far, I'm not sure where you got that from. He hasn't been bad, but I think Jordan is slightly better in short yardage and in recent days has shown a little more pop, despite not generally having impressive speed in general. I also think Jordan's experience in this NE system and as a veteran generally also help to put him over the top. It's still a close battle, but if I were forced to pick, at this snapshot in time, I think the staff would choose Jordan.

Lev Vyvanse
08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
*ugg*

I'd hoped for alot more defense in the draft, and not losing 1 if not 2 probowl players on offense.

Our D is going to struggle and frankly, we're weaker on Offense.

It's good to have you at 100% and by that I mean completely off topic.

521 1N5
08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
*ugg*

I'd hoped for alot more defense in the draft, and not losing 1 if not 2 probowl players on offense.

Our D is going to struggle and frankly, we're weaker on Offense.

I agree. I've been pretty optimistic throughout all the drama this off-season but it's just too hard. Just with all these camp reports the feeling I'm getting is this team will be average at best in almost every aspect of the game this year.

Thanks for the posts. You guys are doing a great job.

SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 07:50 PM
Do we think that Moss will end up playing for another team? Or will he be done with football?

I think Moss might get a shot with another team. In recent days after he returned, his performance hasn't been all bad, although a good bit of his success has been against Tyler Polumbus, who has had a brutal camp the last few days. I think Moss has made up some ground during that period, which is why I put him in the last five out. Certainly, if he can continue to get better, he might make it, but I think that as of this point, he's probably out.

want2bAbronco2
08-07-2009, 07:51 PM
I would rather keep torain then jordan. but thx for all the info and your thoughts! has made work much easier!

theAPAOps5
08-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Hey SoCal thanks for all you did and thanks for the great reports. Sorry I missed practice the past few days. Rory has been sick and I just couldn't get away. Have a safe flight and if you get stuck at the airport over a delay tomorrow call me and I will come give you a tour real quick!

montrose
08-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Nothing of note happened at today's practice. The players were in shorts and everything was a half-speed walkthrough. The only thing of note I can report is that with Chad Jackson lined up across Alphonso Smith, I yelled out "You don't want none Chad!" and OSKIE caught Jackson and Smith laughing with Jackson asking him "Did you hear that? That fan's crazy." Also noteworthy, Nic Clemons was back practicing but J'Vonne Parker was out. They had another drill at the end in which a DL had to field a punt, Kenny Peterson was up first and caught it which had the team going crazy. Then Chris Baker was up and had a few go over his head before catching it although that one appeared to be the rookies vs. the veterans. That's about all I can think to report.

To add a bit to the report, here's the depth chart as best I can report it after one week of practice:

Offense
QB: Orton, Simms, Brandstater
HB: Jordan, Buckhalter, Torain, Walker
FB: Hillis, Larsen
WR: Royal, Stokley, Swift, McKinley, Shelton
WR: Gaffney, Jackson, Lloyd, Willis, Jones
TE: Graham, Scheffler, Quinn, Putzier, Branson
LT: Clady, Polumbus, Bryant
LG: Hamilton, Olsen, Erickson
C: Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger, Schlueter
RG: Kuper, McChesney, Murray
RT: Harris, Gorin, Oldenburg

Defense - 1st Nickel in Italic
DE: Peterson, Powell, Clemons, Askew, Davis
DE: McBean, Thomas, Parker, Pedescleaux
NT: Fields, Baker
OLB: Dumervil, Moss, Ayers
OLB: Reid, Crowder
ILB: D.Williams, Woodyard
ILB: Davis, Larsen, Haggan
CB: Bailey, Smith
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
S: Hill, McBath, Fox
S: Bruton, Barrett

Special Teams
K: Prater
P: Kern, Colquitt
DS: Paxton, Scheffler
KR: Smith, McKinley
PR: Smith, Royal

Not included
Moreno, Marshall, Dawkins

Had a chance to meet Mike Klis during practice and talk for a while, really nice guy. Thought Moreno would get done soon (it did). Also mentioned he'd seen Marshall in the weight room a few times and that it was entirely about money. He made a good point that most players don't trust team doctors in general because they don't think they've got their (the players) best intentions in mind. Klis joked that losing Slowick alone would make a big difference on defense and that McDaniels is a really nice guy. I asked him if things are a lot worse for the media now and he said not really and that Shanny wasn't a great media guy either. Said Dawkins hand isn't too serious and he should be back in 10 days-2 weeks. He has the Broncos going 9-7 this year.

Following practice the rookies signed autographs and I had the chance to meet my man-crush Alphonso as well Ayers. Both guys were really nice to take pictures. Ayers, in particular, stayed well after some of the rookies left to keep signing for everyone. We also met a nice lady who had SoCal ready to explode because she was happy Jay was traded and said he was a jerk to her and her kids when they had met him a few times.

Here's some pics:

A Beautiful Bro-mance: Alphonso and I!
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1397/broncoscamp0807040.jpg

OSKIE and me with Ayers
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1064/broncoscamp0807041.jpg

We're turning the DL Loose
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9634/broncoscamp0807001.jpg

Los Broncos
08-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Nice report and pics, thanks.

BMarsh615
08-07-2009, 08:09 PM
I think its a very, very close battle between Torain and Jordan for the last RB spot. It took some time to choose between the two. I don't think Torain has gotten alot of love so far, I'm not sure where you got that from. He hasn't been bad, but I think Jordan is slightly better in short yardage and in recent days has shown a little more pop, despite not generally having impressive speed in general. I also think Jordan's experience in this NE system and as a veteran generally also help to put him over the top. It's still a close battle, but if I were forced to pick, at this snapshot in time, I think the staff would choose Jordan.

The first few days of TC the reports were saying Torain was the star of camp. The guys on the radio were saying the same thing. I haven't seen it with my own eyes. I rely on all of you camp reporters.^5

I thought you guys were saying that Lamont Jordan has looked lazy in a few practices? I do agree that Jordan coming in from NE certainly helps his chances at making the roster.

SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 08:09 PM
Nothing of note happened at today's practice. The players were in shorts and everything was a half-speed walkthrough. The only thing of note I can report is that with Chad Jackson lined up across Alphonso Smith, I yelled out "You don't want none Chad!" and OSKIE caught Jackson and Smith laughing with Jackson asking him "Did you hear that? That fan's crazy." Also noteworthy, Nic Clemons was back practicing but J'Vonne Parker was out. They had another drill at the end in which a DL had to field a punt, Kenny Peterson was up first and caught it which had the team going crazy. Then Chris Baker was up and had a few go over his head before catching it although that one appeared to be the rookies vs. the veterans. That's about all I can think to report.

To add a bit to the report, here's the depth chart as best I can report it after one week of practice:

Offense
QB: Orton, Simms, Brandstater
HB: Jordan, Buckhalter, Torain, Walker
FB: Hillis, Larsen
WR: Royal, Stokley, Swift, McKinley, Shelton
WR: Gaffney, Jackson, Lloyd, Willis, Jones
TE: Graham, Scheffler, Quinn, Putzier, Branson
LT: Clady, Polumbus, Bryant
LG: Hamilton, Olsen, Erickson
C: Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger, Schlueter
RG: Kuper, McChesney, Murray
RT: Harris, Gorin, Oldenburg

Defense - 1st Nickel in Italic
DE: Peterson, Powell, Clemons, Askew, Davis
DE: McBean, Thomas, Parker, Pedescleaux
NT: Fields, Baker
OLB: Dumervil, Moss, Ayers
OLB: Reid, Crowder
ILB: D.Williams, Woodyard
ILB: Davis, Larsen, Haggan
CB: Bailey, Smith
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
S: Hill, McBath, Fox
S: Bruton, Barrett

Special Teams
K: Prater
P: Kern, Colquitt
DS: Paxton, Scheffler
KR: Smith, McKinley
PR: Smith, Royal

Not included
Moreno, Marshall, Dawkins

Had a chance to meet Mike Klis during practice and talk for a while, really nice guy. Thought Moreno would get done soon (it did). Also mentioned he'd seen Marshall in the weight room a few times and that it was entirely about money. He made a good point that most players don't trust team doctors in general because they don't think they've got their (the players) best intentions in mind. Klis joked that losing Slowick alone would make a big difference on defense and that McDaniels is a really nice guy. I asked him if things are a lot worse for the media now and he said not really and that Shanny wasn't a great media guy either. Said Dawkins hand isn't too serious and he should be back in 10 days-2 weeks. He has the Broncos going 9-7 this year.

Following practice the rookies signed autographs and I had the chance to meet my man-crush Alphonso as well Ayers. Both guys were really nice to take pictures. Ayers, in particular, stayed well after some of the rookies left to keep signing for everyone. We also met a nice lady who had SoCal ready to explode because she was happy Jay was traded and said he was a jerk to her and her kids when they had met him a few times.

Here's some pics:

A Beautiful Bro-mance: Alphonso and I!
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1397/broncoscamp0807040.jpg

OSKIE and me with Ayers
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1064/broncoscamp0807041.jpg

We're turning the DL Loose
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9634/broncoscamp0807001.jpg

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/images/smoosh_lores.jpg

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/Lombardi%20Trophy.jpg

Championship. Lock it up.

(Inside joke between Montrose and myself)

:wiggle:

lex
08-07-2009, 08:12 PM
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/images/smoosh_lores.jpg

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/Lombardi%20Trophy.jpg

Championship. Lock it up.

(Inside joke between Montrose and myself)

:wiggle:

You guys need to stay away from the mall.

Ray Finkle
08-07-2009, 08:15 PM
no pics of Socal and Orton....I say "nuts to you"

SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 08:17 PM
no pics of Socal and Orton....I say "nuts to you"

I was holding out for a picture with Marek Malik.....or at least Fred. :)

SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Hey SoCal thanks for all you did and thanks for the great reports. Sorry I missed practice the past few days. Rory has been sick and I just couldn't get away. Have a safe flight and if you get stuck at the airport over a delay tomorrow call me and I will come give you a tour real quick!

Thanks, Nick. I hope Rory feels better, bro. :thumbsup:

montrose
08-07-2009, 08:24 PM
(inside joke between montrose and myself)

:wiggle:

13yog

Ray Finkle
08-07-2009, 08:28 PM
I was holding out for a picture with Marek Malik.....or at least Fred. :)

I so hope you come to the Skins/Broncos game here in DC so I can smack you. I'll then buy you a beer but first smack you.....:welcome:

Broncoman13
08-07-2009, 09:20 PM
You know Simms holds the ball way too long when my 8 and 10 year old football players are saying to "throw the ball already." They could see he was taking for ever.

The worst part of practice was this dude sitting just behind me toward the end. The problem the Broncos have (according to genius behind me) is that the black players and white players needed to learn to get along. Serious as a heart attack. That and Goodman doesn't stand a chance... way too small. I started to tell him about Tony Carter and Alphonso Smith and Jack Williams, but that would have led to more conversation... F*** that.

I was able to get about 8 autographs as well as taking some pictures with different guys. Travis Shelton and Robert Ayers were especially cool... as was Alphonso for the brief second I spoke with him. Ayers stayed out an additional 10-15 minutes for the fans which was cool of him... I bet he took a ribbin when he got back in side.

underrated29
08-07-2009, 09:41 PM
I like your 53. And thanks for the report.

I think for the RB it looks more like:
know,hillis,buck,jordan,torain.--4 true RB and peyton is the hybrid.

And WR:
brandon,eddie,gaffney,stokley,chad,mckinly..It was between mckin and lloyd, but i dont think Mckinley would make it to the PS. So lloyd gets the boot.

footstepsfrom#27
08-07-2009, 09:47 PM
Hey SoCal...you doin't think any of the UDFA DE's make it but we keep 5 CB's? What about Marquez Branson, the rookie TE...never heard anything on him...did he show anything at all?

Broncoman13
08-07-2009, 09:55 PM
Hey SoCal...you doin't think any of the UDFA DE's make it but we keep 5 CB's? What about Marquez Branson, the rookie TE...never heard anything on him...did he show anything at all?

Had a couple catches, nada for the most part though. Rulon Davis was somewhat disappointing. Gave good effort but just doesn't have it. Baker should stick. Everette to the PS maybe?

SoCalBronco
08-07-2009, 09:57 PM
Hey SoCal...you doin't think any of the UDFA DE's make it but we keep 5 CB's? What about Marquez Branson, the rookie TE...never heard anything on him...did he show anything at all?

I don't think Branson has done much to warrant serious consideration for a roster spot. He hasn't stood out, at least not in my opinion. I'm not sure they are going to keep more than 3 TEs anyway (if they did, I suspect they would keep Jeb). The offense appears to be geared far more to WRs and backs than TE's.

With regard to the rookie DL, I have been impressed with Baker and at times, Rulon Davis. I have Baker (NT prospect) making the final roster, because we need at least one more NT on the roster (and because he's done a nice job for a rookie). I think Davis needs some more seasoning and he'll prolly get it on the PS. I believe Pedescleaux will also be placed on the PS, as well as Tom Brandstater, D.J. Johnson, Lee Robinson and Nate Swift. Swift has actually been impressive. In an ordinary year, he might crack the roster, but there are too many solid veteran WRs for that to happen this year. They will probably sacrifice one vet WR who should make the team in favor of McKinley. McKinley has real upside and does a nice job manuevering in space. Most importantly, they've been consistently using him on KR and PR and I suspect they don't believe they could successfully hide him on on the PS.

Broncoman13
08-07-2009, 10:01 PM
Chad Jackson... Bring your playbook.

NFLBRONCO
08-07-2009, 10:02 PM
Chad Jackson... Bring your playbook.

Too bad he stinks I'd love more speed on O.

Broncoman13
08-07-2009, 10:33 PM
# The players got to have a little fun at the end of practice. Harkening back to the first days of minicamps, two defensive linemen dropped back to field punts to earn a privilege for the team. This time it wasn’t to get out of meetings, however — it was the right to have no curfew tonight, the day before the team gets a day off from practice — a “mental health day,” as McDaniels put it. Peterson stepped back first, and as teammates reminded him to take the wind into account, tossing grass into the air and watching the wind take it, the veteran lineman calmly hauled in the punt before being mobbed by his teammates.

Greybeard
08-07-2009, 10:35 PM
I was holding out for a picture with Marek Malik.....or at least Fred. :)

I thought that was you in your sig. ;D

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footstepsfrom#27
08-07-2009, 10:41 PM
I don't think Branson has done much to warrant serious consideration for a roster spot. He hasn't stood out, at least not in my opinion. I'm not sure they are going to keep more than 3 TEs anyway (if they did, I suspect they would keep Jeb). The offense appears to be geared far more to WRs and backs than TE's.

With regard to the rookie DL, I have been impressed with Baker and at times, Rulon Davis. I have Baker (NT prospect) making the final roster, because we need at least one more NT on the roster (and because he's done a nice job for a rookie). I think Davis needs some more seasoning and he'll prolly get it on the PS. I believe Pedescleaux will also be placed on the PS, as well as Tom Brandstater, D.J. Johnson, Lee Robinson and Nate Swift. Swift has actually been impressive. In an ordinary year, he might crack the roster, but there are too many solid veteran WRs for that to happen this year. They will probably sacrifice one vet WR who should make the team in favor of McKinley. McKinley has real upside and does a nice job manuevering in space. Most importantly, they've been consistently using him on KR and PR and I suspect they don't believe they could successfully hide him on on the PS.
I'm surprised DJ Johnson's shown anything. Everything I read on him made me wonder why we signed him...not surprised for McKinley though. I think he's the future #3 in 2010.

Cito Pelon
08-07-2009, 11:47 PM
Really? I'm kinda hoping that Torain makes it somehow and I still have secret hope for Chad Jackson - don't ask me why.

Torain had the dreaded ACL only 9 months ago. Expecting pop from him now is a little too soon, I expect. He's PS eligible I believe, so maybe that's the best to expect.

Cito Pelon
08-07-2009, 11:57 PM
Do we think that Moss will end up playing for another team? Or will he be done with football?

Moss could stick another 6-8 years in the NFL as a decent run-defender and sometimes pass-rusher, IMO. DE's with his size and skill set that were former #1's have stuck around a long time without being spectacular. He has to want to is the big deal.

ELEVATION
08-08-2009, 12:58 AM
Sorry for the long delay. There was very, very little to report about this practice. It was another "mental walkthrough" this time, with very little of substance. I think they were probably just cooling down after yesterday's evening's scrimmage.

The team generally just worked on installation at a quarter pace. It was very laid back. They are sure putting in alot of plays. This will be a very multiple offense initially, until they get a feel for favorite calls in down and distance situations. The team continued with its extended stretching periods, although there was no gassers at the end of practice, as they apparently let the rookies and veterans off from that task when Kenny Peterson (for the vets) and Chris Baker (for the rookies) caught a punt. Everyone cheered when they didn't muff the punts as no one wanted to run.

In addition to Marshall and Dawkins, Woodyard did not practice today. Barrett filled in for him at the nickel LB spot beside DJ (despite being a natural S). Even though it was only a walkthrough, they did allow Brandstater to go up against the first team defense, even if things weren't done live, which I thought was interesting. Montrose was classic again with his Alphonso man-crush. Smith was going up against Chad Jackson and he shouted out "you don't want none of that Chad" which Chad noticed. :)
Simms still has this huge problem with hesitancy in the pocket. He just doesn't process information in an efficient manner. He just isn't fast enough in that regard. He's so hesitant to make a decision. We also noticed Torain getting some reps.

Given that this was my final practice, here is my look at the final 53:

QB's
1. Kyle Orton
2. Chris Simms
(Brandstater to PS)

RB's
3. Peyton Hillis
4. Knowshon Moreno
5. Correll Buckhalter
6. Lamont Jordan


WR's
7. Brandon Marshall (Unless he starts season out on PUP, which Montrose said he wouldn't be surprised if he did)
8. Eddie Royal
9. Jabar Gaffney
10. Brandon Stokley
11. Brandon Lloyd
12. Kenny McKinley

TE's
13. Tony Scheffler
14. Daniel Graham
15. Richard Quinn

OL
16. Ryan Clady
17. Ben Hamilton
18. Casey Weigmann
19. Chris Kuper
20. Ryan Harris
21. Kory Lichtensteiger
22. Seth Olsen
23. Tyler Polumbus (despite a poor camp so far)
24. Brandon Gorin

DL
25. Ron Fields
26. Marcus Thomas
27. Kenny Peterson
28. Chris Baker
29. Carlton Powell
30. J'Vonne Parker (assuming his injury was not serious)
31. Mattias Askew

LB
32. DJ Williams
33. Andra Davis
34. Tim Crowder
35. Elvis Dumervil
36. Robert Ayers
37. Darrell Reid
38. Wesley Woodyard
39. Spencer Larsen
40. Mario Haggan (Solid Camp)

CB
41. Champ Bailey
42. Andre Goodman
43. Jack Mother ****ing Williams
44. Alphonso Smith
45. Tony Carter

S
46. Brian Dawkins
47. Renaldo Hill
48. David Bruton
49. Josh Barrett
50. Darcel McBath

ST
51. Lonnie Paxton
52. Brett Kern
53. Matt Prater

LAST FIVE IN
Tony Carter
Mario Haggan
Matthias Askew
Lamont Jordan
Tyler Polumbus

LAST FIVE OUT
Ryan Torain
Jarvis Moss
Chad Jackson
Nate Swift
Ryan McBean



good reports, gotta say i disagree with the depth chart....if you go off New englands style and San frans d the format is much different, now we are neitehr of those teams obviously but the format is still pretty likely to be used here.

3 QB,4 Rb's, 1 FB, 6 wr's, 6-7 DL, 5 OLB, 5 ILB, 4-5 Cb's, 4-5 safties...etc...

my guess is the following

QB- orton/simms/brandstater
RB- Buckhalter/Moreno/(Hillis)/Jordan/torain
WR-Marshall/royal/gaffney/Stokley/Llyod/Mckinnely
FB- Hillis/(Larsen)
TE-Graham/Sheff/Quinn

RT Harris/Polumbus
RG- Kuper/Licht
C- Weigman/(hamilton)
LG- Hamilton/Olsen
LT- Clady/(Harris)

LDE- Mcbean/Thomas
NT- Fields/Powell/Baker
RDE- Peterson/Askew

ROLB- Dumervil/Ayers/(Haggan)
LeftLOB- Reid/Crowder/Haggan
LILB- Andra Davis/Spencer Larsen
RILB- DJ williams/Wesely Woodyard

SS- Dawkins/Bruton
FS- Renaldo Hill/Josh Barett/Darcel Mcbath
LCB- Champ/JMFW
RCB- Goodman/Alphonso Smith/(darcel Mcbath)

LS- Paxton
K- Prater
P- Kern

just my take....

this being your last week, thanks for all the reports by the way

Elway777
08-08-2009, 01:22 AM
I like your 53. And thanks for the report.

I think for the RB it looks more like:
know,hillis,buck,jordan,torain.--4 true RB and peyton is the hybrid.

And WR:
brandon,eddie,gaffney,stokley,chad,mckinly..It was between mckin and lloyd, but i dont think Mckinley would make it to the PS. So lloyd gets the boot. I Don't think Torain will be cut but Jordon could also make team with Broncos keeping 5 running backs. I also think Loyd get cut because Gaffney and Stokley are the same type of receiver and Loyd does not play special teams. Jackson makes it because he can return kickoffs.

meangene
08-08-2009, 02:58 AM
[QUOTE=SoCalBronco;2498149]
DL
25. Ron Fields
26. Marcus Thomas
27. Kenny Peterson
28. Chris Baker
29. Carlton Powell
30. J'Vonne Parker (assuming his injury was not serious)
31. Mattias Askew

McBean getting cut? Hasn't he been pretty much a starter since the OTA's? I gotta think he makes it over Parker or Askew.

meangene
08-08-2009, 03:02 AM
Also, what about Hillis and Larsen in the short yardage backfield if we keep Torain over Jordan?

elsid13
08-08-2009, 03:52 AM
Also, what about Hillis and Larsen in the short yardage backfield if we keep Torain over Jordan?

That how I think that it going to play out. People are assuming that the fight for short yardage back is between Torian and Jordon, it's not. The fight for that role is between Jordon and Hillis and Hillis has already won. Since Jordon doesn't place ST, then Torian has the inside track to stick and get carries as the complimentary back to starter.

BabyTO
08-08-2009, 04:11 AM
Torain is our best back in TC, he's young, he barely makes any money. How the hell do you expect a much older, more expensive, less versatile guy like Buckhalter or especially Jordan to make the team over him? Silly.

Hamrob
08-08-2009, 05:46 AM
Thanks SoCal. On paper this team looks weak! The defensive line looks like somebody's practice squad.

Another concern are the CB's...this supposedly being the strength of our defense. You've got 3 guys on their that are south of 5'9". We better hope that our starters play all 16 games or I hope everyone likes toast!

Br0nc0Buster
08-08-2009, 06:23 AM
Torain is our best back in TC, he's young, he barely makes any money. How the hell do you expect a much older, more expensive, less versatile guy like Buckhalter or especially Jordan to make the team over him? Silly.

What?
Buckhalter might be the best receiving back on the roster
Buckhalter I think has been the best RB in TC

Dagmar
08-08-2009, 06:39 AM
*ugg*

I'd hoped for alot more defense in the draft, and not losing 1 if not 2 probowl players on offense.

Our D is going to struggle and frankly, we're weaker on Offense.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/auld-joke/funny/mofoyh4au3.gif

Kaylore
08-08-2009, 07:00 AM
I personally think Stanley Bryant is the best back up tackle this year. Polumbus hasn't had a good camp.

azbroncfan
08-08-2009, 07:08 AM
Torain is our best back in TC, he's young, he barely makes any money. How the hell do you expect a much older, more expensive, less versatile guy like Buckhalter or especially Jordan to make the team over him? Silly.

Denver will get about 10 carries out of Torain until he is hurt. I think MCD takes 5 RB's. Moreno, Buckhalter, Hillis, Torain, Jordan.

gyldenlove
08-08-2009, 08:32 AM
Just one thing, Marshall can't go to PUP because he participated in TC, for a player to be placed on PUP he must not have participated in any physical training camp activities.

He can only go to IR now, and I doubt that is an option.

montrose
08-08-2009, 08:44 AM
Just one thing, Marshall can't go to PUP because he participated in TC, for a player to be placed on PUP he must not have participated in any physical training camp activities.

He can only go to IR now, and I doubt that is an option.

I didn't know that, learned something new!

BabyTO
08-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Denver will get about 10 carries out of Torain until he is hurt. I think MCD takes 5 RB's. Moreno, Buckhalter, Hillis, Torain, Jordan.
Well thats the question. But Torain hasnt reached the point where you can say that he's always hurt or that he's not gonna be able to play a full season so lets get rid of him. He deserves another 1-2 seasons. If he continues to struggle the next 1-2 seasons with injuries you have to get rid of him but right now he's one of our best backs.

Hillis, Moreno, Torain. We'd be set for the next 10 years at RB.

Drek
08-08-2009, 09:41 AM
Torain is our best back in TC, he's young, he barely makes any money. How the hell do you expect a much older, more expensive, less versatile guy like Buckhalter or especially Jordan to make the team over him? Silly.

Buckhalter?

He and Torain are in no way competing for snaps. Buckhalter's role is what Moreno and Darius Walker are here for. Faster, more agile backs who can also catch. They will probably often find themselves in the single back sets and in our base offense with Hillis at FB.

Torain is competing with LaMont Jordan directly, and Peyton Hillis indirectly. Jordan because they both will fill the same power back role, and Hillis because the better Peyton looks as a power ball carrier the fewer carries we'll have left for Torain/Jordan regardless.

I think there is a good chance Torain beats out Jordan for the job, or at least impresses enough to make them carry a 5th RB. But him staying or going isn't going to be impacted by Buckhalter at all. That's Darius Walker's fight and one I think he's a whole lot less likely to win.

broncosteven
08-08-2009, 10:41 AM
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Here's some pics:

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OSKIE and me with Ayers
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What no Pic's of you with the guy who looks (or maybe looked liked) Tom Brady?

WTF!

LOL

BTW I am just joking.

TheChamp24
08-08-2009, 11:18 AM
Okay, so I have a question for the camp goers. Does Champ Bailey venture to the fans for signing at all, or does he act like you will infect him with the leper disease?
I've heard that he won't sign at all, but he is my man-crush since he got into the league and since I'm coming up to Colorado next week, I'd like to try to get a Pro Bowl jersey signed by him.

s0phr0syne
08-08-2009, 11:26 AM
Just one thing, Marshall can't go to PUP because he participated in TC, for a player to be placed on PUP he must not have participated in any physical training camp activities.

He can only go to IR now, and I doubt that is an option.



gylden, you're sure about that?

my interpretation of the rules is as follows: if a player practices in TC, they're not able to go on the training camp PUP. Training camp PUP allows for a return as soon as the player is healthy, no matter what week of the season. I don't think they count against the 53-man roster that must be reached before the beginning of the regular season.

Marshall would not be eligible for this PUP as he already has participated in training camp.

Players on the regular season PUP can be put on that at any time before the 65-man roster cuts, but they can't come off it until after week 6.

I thought that Marshall would be eligible for the regular season PUP.

you know...instead of typing this I could have probably just looked up the pup rules myself...but whatev...

DHallblows
08-08-2009, 12:16 PM
Great reports guys!
But my favorite parts are the people flipping out because you have Torain getting cut. I've noticed the only people obsessed with him lately are young posters that think the only way to run the ball effectively in Denver is with someone like TD (because that's all they've really seen). It's cute. And this is coming from a young poster who's only seen TD and on.
But I am a little surprised you don't have Torain at least making PS

2KBack
08-08-2009, 12:25 PM
Great reports guys!
But my favorite parts are the people flipping out because you have Torain getting cut. I've noticed the only people obsessed with him lately are young posters that think the only way to run the ball effectively in Denver is with someone like TD (because that's all they've really seen). It's cute. And this is coming from a young poster who's only seen TD and on.
But I am a little surprised you don't have Torain at least making PS

for the sake of conversation, what is the link between TD and Torain? As in, how is Torain "someone like TD?"

DHallblows
08-08-2009, 12:37 PM
for the sake of conversation, what is the link between TD and Torain? As in, how is Torain "someone like TD?"

Hahaha I had a feeling I'd have to clarify. In the sense of TD's power running that he had (not that he was a power runner, but his powerful up the field type of running). Not the cute cutting-all-around speed back. I felt my paragraph was runoney enough so I didn't clarify.
I don't mean they are the same type of runner, but so many have used their names in the same sentence since Torain's gotten here I used the comparison

2KBack
08-08-2009, 12:39 PM
Hahaha I had a feeling I'd have to clarify. In the sense of TD's power running that he had (not that he was a power runner, but his powerful up the field type of running). Not the cute cutting-all-around speed back. I felt my paragraph was runoney enough so I didn't clarify.
I don't mean they are the same type of runner, but so many have used their names in the same sentence since Torain's gotten here I used the comparison

Okay, I see where you are going.

gyldenlove
08-08-2009, 12:47 PM
gylden, you're sure about that?

my interpretation of the rules is as follows: if a player practices in TC, they're not able to go on the training camp PUP. Training camp PUP allows for a return as soon as the player is healthy, no matter what week of the season. I don't think they count against the 53-man roster that must be reached before the beginning of the regular season.

Marshall would not be eligible for this PUP as he already has participated in training camp.

Players on the regular season PUP can be put on that at any time before the 65-man roster cuts, but they can't come off it until after week 6.

I thought that Marshall would be eligible for the regular season PUP.

you know...instead of typing this I could have probably just looked up the pup rules myself...but whatev...

Could be true, but my interpretation of the rules is that to make the reserve PUP list (the PUP list during the regular season where players are exempt from the 53 player roster) you have to have been on the active PUP list which is the training camp list that you can only be put on if you have not participated actively in any training camp activities.

This is the only thing I could find on the PUP rules, if anyone has a better link please let me know:

PUP rule rundown (http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2009m7d28-Clarifying-NFL-rules-on-the-physically-unable-to-perform-PUP-list)

s0phr0syne
08-08-2009, 01:10 PM
Good link.

yeah, I guess if that is the case that you have to be on the active PUP (what I had called the training camp PUP) to be on the reserve PUP (regular season PUP).

I feel like this issue comes up every July/August and I've forgotten the intricacies of it all by the next year. :P

gyldenlove
08-08-2009, 01:19 PM
Good link.

yeah, I guess if that is the case that you have to be on the active PUP (what I had called the training camp PUP) to be on the reserve PUP (regular season PUP).

I feel like this issue comes up every July/August and I've forgotten the intricacies of it all by the next year. :P

I know, I remember the same debate last year with regards to Torain.

BroncoBuff
08-08-2009, 01:37 PM
Chad Jackson... Bring your playbook.

Not so fast my friend. Chad was running second team all week with Brandon Lloyd, and he actually rotated in with the first team some.

Montrose' depth chart lists Stokley sen\cond-team, but that's misleading in that the majority of offensive sets have been 3-ER, single back. Jackson was actually doing far better than I anticipated he would. I'd say he has an above average chance to make the team if B-Marsh is out awhile.

Downside for Chad is he's running #3 in both return teams, it's tough for a 5th/6th wideout who doesn't play special teams.