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tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 06:52 PM
http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/practice-at-invesco-live-blog/

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BlaK-Argentina
08-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Thanks! Will do.

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:04 PM
jarvis moss roars through o-line for what would have been a sack. wow, this kid may have used those days off to his advantage, weve heard a lot of good thigns about him since he came back...well see though his roster spot is in jeopardy.

meangene
08-06-2009, 07:04 PM
Thanks! Good find!

cutler_to_marshall
08-06-2009, 07:05 PM
this is great to keep a beat on things. Is there any chance for the O-mane practice reports tonight ?

oubronco
08-06-2009, 07:07 PM
Hopefully

cutler_to_marshall
08-06-2009, 07:10 PM
sadly i wake up in the mornings and look forward to those reports all day! living out in upstate new york, there really isn't much Broncos banter about unless its the B.S spewed out by ESPN. (yes i know the broncos D sucks, they play at mile high, and mike shanahan found the next 1,000 yard back.... )

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:11 PM
looks like the broncos are kinda easily moving the ball. is taht good or bad? you never know...

meangene
08-06-2009, 07:13 PM
sadly i wake up in the mornings and look forward to those reports all day! living out in upstate new york, there really isn't much Broncos banter about unless its the B.S spewed out by ESPN. (yes i know the broncos D sucks, they play at mile high, and mike shanahan found the next 1,000 yard back.... )

I feel your pain. Same here in southeast Virginia where the Redskins are the adopted team. Except when they suck and then it's the Steelers.

cutler_to_marshall
08-06-2009, 07:18 PM
those fairweathered fans ! I wonder what it would be like to get consistent and more importantly accurate media coverage instead of the same cliched B.S assumptions. Thats what the Mane is for (aside those meltdown modes).

meangene
08-06-2009, 07:26 PM
Wow! "Stout run defense in every unit"! Haven't heard that expression much with our defense lately. Even in a scrimmage - I'll take it!

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:29 PM
Orton rolls to his right, avoids the rush and finds Stokley for the touchdown.
..

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 07:33 PM
looks like the broncos are kinda easily moving the ball. is taht good or bad? you never know...

good question...

at this point i'll settle for Orton playing well...

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:36 PM
goodman has 3 interceptions off orton in like the last 10 minutes, one was blown dead due to def. penalty

meangene
08-06-2009, 07:37 PM
Defense playing good run defense, getting "sacks" and turnovers! Big night for Goodman - I'm really liking our corner depth.

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 07:38 PM
Orton is playing horrible now. I wonder if the first team OL is still in? Also, no word on Royal?

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 07:40 PM
The blitzes and variable 4th rushed is giving me wood!

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:41 PM
defense being super aggressive. fields gets a sack by himself, then on a blitz andra gets one too. orton recovered the yardage on next play. wonder what teams are in?

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 07:42 PM
goodman has 3 interceptions off orton in like the last 10 minutes, one was blown dead due to def. penalty

sheez...

2KBack
08-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Orton is playing horrible now. I wonder if the first team OL is still in? Also, no word on Royal?

We have very few details on the actual play. Who knows the kind of plays are leading to the Ints, and Royal might be smothered by Champ.

for example, Jack Williams stops Hillis cold? There must be more to that.

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:44 PM
stokely catching all sorts of balls, i think stokely caught 3 of the last 4 balls including TD and 2pt.

prodigalson139
08-06-2009, 07:47 PM
B Marsh needs to get healthy and suck it up...sounds like this offense could be pretty potent/special...not to mention adding another weapon once Knowshow shows

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 07:49 PM
JMFW "swings" Hillis out of bounds?...

heh, according to this blogger JMFW is totally manhandling Hillis...

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:49 PM
another interesting thing, jack williams has been all over camp and now this scrimmage, it makes me wonder if mcdaniels knew then what he knows now, would he have traded up for him?

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 07:52 PM
another interesting thing, jack williams has been all over camp and now this scrimmage, it makes me wonder if mcdaniels knew then what he knows now, would he have traded up for him?

if you're referring to the acquistion alphonso smith, so as long as smith turns out to be the stud i think he'll be, i'm glad he made the move...

esp since the rookie contracts are spinning out of control, it's more of a burden than a benefit for us to have two 1st rounders again next year...

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:54 PM
if you're referring to the acquistion alphonso smith, so as long as smith turns out to be the stud i think he'll be, i'm glad he made the move...

esp since the rookie contracts are spinning out of control, it's more of a burden than a benefit for us to have two 1st rounders again next year...

im sure hell be good, i just dont think it will be THIS year, as we have a lot of people ahead of him. however champs salary is like 15mil next year, i think its either he restructures (may not want to) or hes cut, meaning smith moves up the ladder......

meangene
08-06-2009, 07:55 PM
another interesting thing, jack williams has been all over camp and now this scrimmage, it makes me wonder if mcdaniels knew then what he knows now, would he have traded up for him?

Smith? Oh yeah, I think so. He has looked pretty good thus far and Champ and Goodman are both in their 30's and Champ hasn't been able to stay healthy and Goodman had some injury issues up to last year.

s0phr0syne
08-06-2009, 07:55 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/date

They report that J'vonne Parker and Marques Branson were injured during play.

Not reported on the blog...

lostknight
08-06-2009, 07:56 PM
At the practice. Orton has been dreadful. Smith royal and hills looking goof.

s0phr0syne
08-06-2009, 07:57 PM
also, there's no rationale in saying that it's better to have traded the extra pick next year in avoiding costs--we could have packaged whatever picks we had to try and move up to nab someone, or used one of the picks to trade back with someone who wants back into the first, etc. I'm not criticizing the move per se, just the people who try to justify it by saying that the money would have been a problem

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 07:58 PM
also, there's no rationale in saying that it's better to have traded the extra pick next year in avoiding costs--we could have packaged whatever picks we had to try and move up to nab someone, or used one of the picks to trade back with someone who wants back into the first, etc. I'm not criticizing the move per se, just the people who try to justify it by saying that the money would have been a problem

i agree completely.

orton needs to step up asap. it seems like hell go a few good plays then mess up big time.

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 07:58 PM
At the practice. Orton has been dreadful. Smith royal and hills looking goof.

orton looks terrible and smith,royal, & hillis are goofs...

we're in bad shape people...

s0phr0syne
08-06-2009, 07:58 PM
sounds like practice is over. thanks for posting about the live blog, was fun to follow

Ray Finkle
08-06-2009, 07:59 PM
orton looks terrible and smith,royal, & hillis are goofs...

we're in bad shape people...

and people bashed Harris for the first part of the preseason last year too....relax, there is still time.

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 08:00 PM
also, there's no rationale in saying that it's better to have traded the extra pick next year in avoiding costs--we could have packaged whatever picks we had to try and move up to nab someone, or used one of the picks to trade back with someone who wants back into the first, etc. I'm not criticizing the move per se, just the people who try to justify it by saying that the money would have been a problem

in all likelihood we use both the picks just like we did this season...

Ayers just signed and Moreno still has yet to...

if you can get a 1st round graded player in the 2nd round this year versus going thru the trouble of trying to sign two 1st rounders again next season, i'll take option A...

and money is always a factor in these types of situations, whether we want to be or not...

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 08:01 PM
and people bashed Harris for the first part of the preseason last year too....relax, there is still time.

i'm joking my man, relax...^5...

meangene
08-06-2009, 08:02 PM
orton needs to step up asap. it seems like hell go a few good plays then mess up big time.

It's early and he is learning a very complex offense. Sounds like the whole playbook is in and the defense threw everything at him. Seems like he just needs to not force things as much and go to his check downs more. Give him time - I think he will be fine.

Ray Finkle
08-06-2009, 08:04 PM
i'm joking my man, relax...^5...

oh....From what I have read about the practice, he made some mistakes but sounded good on the other ones...

SouthStndJunkie
08-06-2009, 08:06 PM
goodman has 3 interceptions off orton in like the last 10 minutes, one was blown dead due to def. penalty

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Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:07 PM
As long as we have some flashes from Orton I'm okay. Little concerned that our OL is having so many issues with blitz pick-up.

Also, pretty sure that Lostnight meant to say that Hillis, Smith and Royal were "good" not "goof". .. at least I hope so!

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 08:07 PM
oh....From what I have read about the practice, he made some mistakes but sounded good on the other ones...

yea not his best day, but i am a believer in Orton...

the D threw the kitchen sink at him...a good learning experience for him and everyone involved...

i'm very excited with the team's progress...

Gcver2ver3
08-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Also, pretty sure that Lostnight meant to say that Hillis, Smith and Royal were "good" not "goof". .. at least I hope so!

no question about it...lol...

he clearly meant good and not goof...:strong:...

thats what i was poking fun at...

:afro:

Hercules Rockefeller
08-06-2009, 08:10 PM
another interesting thing, jack williams has been all over camp and now this scrimmage, it makes me wonder if mcdaniels knew then what he knows now, would he have traded up for him?

Yes. This team had little depth anywhere, they appear to at least have built some so far at DB, WR, RB, and maybe at OL. Next year they can hopefully start building some more in the Front 7.

Ray Finkle
08-06-2009, 08:10 PM
yea not his best day, but i am a believer in Orton...

the D threw the kitchen sink at him...a good learning experience for him and everyone involved...

i'm very excited with the team's progress...

I am glad the defense was over aggressive at him....I will always be a fan of Cutler's ability. I had problems with his attitude for about two years ago (I have PM's with Wabbit talking about these). I also had problems with his inability to throw the check down. Will Orton be an all pro? I don't think so but he can be a winning QB.

Kaylore
08-06-2009, 08:11 PM
According to the blog Orton scored a couple of times and made a two point conversion. How horribly could he have played?

Ray Finkle
08-06-2009, 08:12 PM
According to the blog Orton scored a couple of times and made a two point conversion. How horribly could he have played?

but how many times did he sit by himself on the sidelines???

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 08:13 PM
but how many times did he sit by himself on the sidelines???

has he called out the defense yet? :thanku:

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Yes. This team had little depth anywhere, they appear to at least have built some so far at DB, WR, RB, and maybe at OL. Next year they can hopefully start building some more in the Front 7.

No doubt and I'd even go as far as to say we have some decent depth at OLB. Crowder looks the part. If Ayers turns out all right we're probably looking at a few DLinemen and an ILB. On offense, I'd like an upgrade at QB but Orton is still very much in the learning phase so there is time for some development...

Kaylore
08-06-2009, 08:14 PM
but how many times did he sit by himself on the sidelines???

As many times as he was listening to his MP3 player.

Ray Finkle
08-06-2009, 08:15 PM
has he called out the defense yet? :thanku:

Did he throw into triple coverage when Hillis was wide open five yards away???

The MVPlaya
08-06-2009, 08:15 PM
It's great to see how people are reacting over some text. It's a good basis and all - but I've learned in the past that after following a game play-by-play online then going to watch the game at home - it's a whole different story.

It's seriously a lose-lose situation with a lot of fans - if the offense does well you guys will b!tch and moan about the defense and if the defense does well you guys b!tch and moan about the offense.

It was a good practice, why can't we be happy with that?

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:17 PM
According to the blog Orton scored a couple of times and made a two point conversion. How horribly could he have played?

3 Ints bad in about 20 pass attempts. He's learning the offense so I'm not bummed about it... just saying, the defense is still ahead and now is the time that the Offense should be evening up. He did score some so maybe that is the "puddin" I'm looking for. This next week will tell us a lot!

tsiguy96
08-06-2009, 08:17 PM
It's great to see how people are reacting over some text. It's a good basis and all - but I've learned in the past that after following a game play-by-play online then going to watch the game at home - it's a whole different story.

It's seriously a lose-lose situation with a lot of fans - if the offense does well you guys will b!tch and moan about the defense and if the defense does well you guys b!tch and moan about the offense.

It was a good practice, why can't we be happy with that?

what are you talking about? no ones bitching about anything, based on what we heard they both made plays, it gives us a basis of stuff that we want to follow sooner.

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:19 PM
It's great to see how people are reacting over some text. It's a good basis and all - but I've learned in the past that after following a game play-by-play online then going to watch the game at home - it's a whole different story.

It's seriously a lose-lose situation with a lot of fans - if the offense does well you guys will b!tch and moan about the defense and if the defense does well you guys b!tch and moan about the offense.

It was a good practice, why can't we be happy with that?

B/c we like to analyze what we see/hear. If you have a problem with it, go to MHR. I hear they're accepting...YOU!

Irish Stout
08-06-2009, 08:19 PM
Good showing by the fans! 13,400 strong!

Who knows what to think.... is our front 7 that good? Is our O line really struggling that much? We won't know until the first game... but hopefully preseason gives us some more insight.

The MVPlaya
08-06-2009, 08:22 PM
B/c we like to analyze what we see/hear. If you have a problem with it, go to MHR. I hear they're accepting...YOU!

What's wrong with MHR?

It's ridiculous what some of you idiots say ... not specifically you or anyone that has posted here - but I've read that people believe Stokely could be cut? That's just one example.

All I'm saying is - it's a lose lose situation either way with a lot of you people.

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:23 PM
what are you talking about? no ones b****ing about anything, based on what we heard they both made plays, it gives us a basis of stuff that we want to follow sooner.

It is funny that some people look for the War Pain Illustrated type practice. Orton is 20 of 20 and has 3 TDs while Champ Bailey, Alphonso Smith, JMFW, and Goodman all played perfect defense...

Kaylore has pointed it out for years during the opening week of camp. The Defense is always ahead of the offense at first. At some point though, things even out. The offense's timing comes together and then you get a more accurate account of where your offense stands. Are we there yet and Orton is throwing the ball poorly or is he still trying to grasp the offense and therefore a little lost at times. I personally think it is the latter, but that's just my opinion and based more on optimism than anything else.

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:25 PM
What's wrong with MHR?

It's ridiculous what some of you idiots say ... not specifically you or anyone that has posted here - but I've read that people believe Stokely could be cut? That's just one example.

All I'm saying is - it's a lose lose situation either way with a lot of you people.

You're giving CA a bad name. Assuming you can't help it, can you stop being such a douche and just stick with being a loser?

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Good showing by the fans! 13,400 strong!

Who knows what to think.... is our front 7 that good? Is our O line really struggling that much? We won't know until the first game... but hopefully preseason gives us some more insight.

Yes our OLine is horrible. You should panic now. Ron Fields, Ryan McBean, and Kenny Peterson are making them their personal biatches. Run with it.

BlueCrusher
08-06-2009, 08:34 PM
Last year Ryan Harris looked horrible during preseaon...

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Last year Ryan Harris looked horrible during preseaon...

And Jarvis Moss looked good... what is one to do?

The MVPlaya
08-06-2009, 08:36 PM
You're giving CA a bad name. Assuming you can't help it, can you stop being such a douche and just stick with being a loser?

You're giving yourself a bad name.

lol - well you proved my point pretty well though with idiot-esque responses.

Oh well - I'm a douche and a loser! HA HA HA HA LOL

BlueCrusher
08-06-2009, 08:42 PM
And Jarvis Moss looked good... what is one to do?

I guess just lament giving up that first pick of the draft next year.

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:43 PM
You're giving yourself a bad name.

lol - well you proved my point pretty well though with idiot-esque responses.

Oh well - I'm a douche and a loser! HA HA HA HA LOL

OoohKay Playa... You've got this team all figured out huh? Why bother playin the games??? Where is Mock when you need him... GO BYE A VOWEL!

Broncoman13
08-06-2009, 08:44 PM
I guess just lament giving up that first pick of the draft next year.

Oh yeah... I forgot that I should be depressed that the Seahawks are going to draft #1 overall next year with our pick. Damn, you didn't make me feel much better. :P

Dutch
08-06-2009, 09:03 PM
I was of the impression this would be the thread for practice coverage, ended up with this instead. :oyvey: bummer...

BlueCrusher
08-06-2009, 09:25 PM
Oh yeah... I forgot that I should be depressed that the Seahawks are going to draft #1 overall next year with our pick. Damn, you didn't make me feel much better. :P

That is only half the hurt. How about having to watch cutler carrying the lombardi and the nice 32nd pick that comes with it? I'm being sarcastic, but if that crap happens I'm becoming an aborigine.ugh!~

SoDak Bronco
08-06-2009, 09:26 PM
where are the constructive pov's of tonights practice?

Los Broncos
08-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Thanks for the link, that was cool.

broncosteven
08-06-2009, 09:56 PM
According to the blog Orton scored a couple of times and made a two point conversion. How horribly could he have played?

7:27 p.m. MDT: On the next play, Orton drops back and launches a pass way downfield for a streaking Gaffney, but Andre’ Goodman steps in out of nowhere for the interception, heading back downfield and hearing cheers from the crowd.

He had a couple of picks and this one:

7:08 p.m. MDT: Royal looked to have a catch in the middle of the field from Orton, but Tim Crowder’s footsteps may have caused him to bobble it before the outside linebacker/defensive end put a little contact into him and the pass fell incomplete.


I can't wait until I can see a couple PS and real games.

I did think even this early Orton would be able to protect the ball better.

manchambo
08-06-2009, 10:34 PM
I was there. Orton really looked bad.

Moss was surprisingly effective. Consistent edge pressure when lined up outside. He actually lined up on the DE a couple of times, and held up decent. If he can play like that on a regular basis, it seems conceivable that he could have some impact on passing downs if they put him in to pin his ears back.

It's also pretty striking when you see them moving Ayers, Dumervil, Crowder, etc. around that this team can put some serious size out there. Hard to say whether it will amount to anything, but it's interesting.

lostknight
08-06-2009, 10:37 PM
As long as we have some flashes from Orton I'm okay. Little concerned that our OL is having so many issues with blitz pick-up.

Also, pretty sure that Lostnight meant to say that Hillis, Smith and Royal were "good" not "goof". .. at least I hope so!

I did. Blackberry storm keyboards suck.

enjolras
08-06-2009, 10:37 PM
I was there too... Orton looked TERRIBLE under pressure.

enjolras
08-06-2009, 10:39 PM
The o-line seemed to be having trouble with the protection schemes more than anything else. On several of the pressures the guards/tackles slid in opposite directions sort of opening holes. A couple of edge pressures where caused by (usually Harris) blocking inside. It wasn't a talent issue, more of trouble with the scheme. The offense really seemed confused all the way around. They didn't seem to know where to be most of the time.

This led to a few batted down balls as well (although Alphonso Smith made an incredible adjustment on a blitz to knock one of them down).

I think the first few weeks might be pretty rough for the offensive side of the football.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-06-2009, 10:54 PM
The o-line seemed to be having trouble with the protection schemes more than anything else. On several of the pressures the guards/tackles slid in opposite directions sort of opening holes. A couple of edge pressures where caused by (usually Harris) blocking inside. It wasn't a talent issue, more of trouble with the scheme. The offense really seemed confused all the way around. They didn't seem to know where to be most of the time.

This led to a few batted down balls as well (although Alphonso Smith made an incredible adjustment on a blitz to knock one of them down).

I think the first few weeks might be pretty rough for the offensive side of the football.

This was my biggest worry, but i obviously knew it would happen. The broncos greatest opponent during the first few weeks of the season will be themselves and their adjustments re: learning a new offense.