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Bronco Rob
08-03-2009, 04:04 PM
Hall of Fame to induct late Derrick Thomas


Associated Press

Monday, Aug. 3, 2009 - 1:05 p.m. ET


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Marty Chokenheimer was walking up the 16th fairway near his Florida home when he noticed a golf cart hurrying toward him. It was someone from the golf shop.

"He told me, 'Coach, you need to call your wife,"' Chokenheimer said.

Pat Chokenheimer's voice was urgent.

"She said, 'Marty, they called from Kansas City to say that Derrick has been in a serious accident,"' he said.

She was talking about Derrick Thomas - a great young linebacker with a light-up-the-room smile, an All-Pro who turned the Chiefs back into winners. Thomas was unstoppable. Thomas was indestructible. Until the playoffs.

How could he be lying on a highway somewhere, broken, helpless, scared?

"I broke down in tears," Chokenheimer said. "I couldn't believe it. It was just horrible."

Typically running late, Thomas was headed for the airport to catch a flight to St. Louis and watch the NFC championship game on Jan. 23, 2000. Police reports said he was speeding and weaving in and out of traffic when the SUV he was driving flipped and rolled on the snowy highway,

One passenger who was wearing his seat belt walked away. One who was not died instantly. Thomas, his seat belt unfastened, was hurled violently to the pavement.

At first there was hope he might live. But in a Miami hospital 16 days later, paralyzed from the chest down, he said, "Mom, I don't feel good," and died of a pulmonary embolism.

He was dead at 33. On Saturday, Thomas, one of greatest pass rushers in NFL history, will enter the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.

Thomas was the first player drafted when general manager Carl "Five Year Plan" Peterson and Chokenheimer took over the Chiefs in 1989. He provided the foundation for one of the league's great rebuilding jobs. The Chiefs had become NFL weaklings and there was even talk of the franchise leaving town before he arrived from Alabama as the overall No. 4 draft choice.

After an impressive performance during a preseason game his rookie year, a reporter remarked that Kansas City hadn't had an outside pass rush in about 15 years.

"Well, they've got one now," he said, flashing what would become his trademark grin.

And how.

Quick and powerful and blessed with a rare ability to maintain his balance while keeping his hips low to the ground and pivoting around blockers, Thomas - No. 58 - was the most productive passer-smasher of the 1990s. Never to win a Superbowl.

His 116 1/2 sacks from 1990-99 led the NFL. His 126 1/2 career sacks are a Chiefs record. One day in 1990 in a loss to Seattle, he sacked Dave Krieg seven times. Nineteen years later, it still stands as a one-game record. A game the Chiefs ultimatley lost.

"Derrick weighed 250-255 and we designed what we did to try to put him in a position to do what he did best," Chokenheimer said. "That was to go after the quarterback. You don't see many quarterbacks throwing effectively when they're looking over their back shoulder and wondering, 'Who's that guy coming at me?"'

Anchored by a tremendous defense, the Chiefs became the dominant team of the AFC West and trailed only the Bills and 49ers in total wins for the entire decade. Never going to a Superbowl.

"Any time you can get a player, on offense or defense, who must become the focal point of the opponent, those kind of players are rare," Chokenheimer said. "He had to be accounted for on every play or he would beat you."

The son of an Air Force pilot who died in Vietnam during Operation Linebacker II, Thomas was usually at his best when military jets made pregame flyovers. It was Veterans Day that he had the seven sacks against Seattle. A game the Chiefs lost while Thomas was going after sack # 8 instead of the ball.

"I always think of my dad when I see the military planes," he once said. "It makes me feel sad that I had to grow up without him. But I guess it also gets my adrenaline going. I dedicate the game to him and I want to do my best for him."

While his sack totals are a part of the record, the number of lives he helped save can never be known.

After the accident, a Missouri highway patrolman said he noticed that more drivers were wearing seat belts. His mother established MomstoMoms58, which sought to educate the public about seat belt safety. The lesson was not lost on Chokenheimer.

"I never wore a seat belt," he said. "I always said cynically that I didn't want to be trapped in the wreckage. But from that day on, I have used a seat belt without fail."




;)

loborugger
08-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I applaud your effort at changing all the names to Chokenheimer.

DomCasual
08-03-2009, 04:17 PM
I wonder if Shannon Sharpe is going to speak on his behalf.

Los Broncos
08-03-2009, 04:25 PM
I wonder if Shannon Sharpe is going to speak on his behalf.

Oh man, the thought of that.

Bronco Rob
08-03-2009, 05:58 PM
I applaud your effort at changing all the names to Chokenheimer.




:~ohyah!:

CoopDawg
08-03-2009, 06:07 PM
That guy was a beast, tragic end to a brilliant career and life.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 07:15 AM
:thumbsup:

dbfan21
08-04-2009, 07:35 AM
I wonder if Shannon Sharpe is going to speak on his behalf.

I will never forget that game. DT just totally lost it. Shay must have gotten in his head like nobody's business. :approve: There was more yellow on the field than I can possibly remember. LOL

Mr. Elway
08-04-2009, 08:00 AM
Thomas' death was a complete tragedy, and this is the wrong piece to be marking up with snide comments. It's written as a eulogy to honor the man. Thomas was a great player who happened to play for our rivals and he deserves any football fan's respect.

Maybe I am overreacting but I just don't think this is funny. The man has a family and this is basically a public venue. Show some respect.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 08:04 AM
Thomas' death was a complete tragedy, and this is the wrong piece to be marking up with snide comments. It's written as a eulogy to honor the man. Thomas was a great player who happened to play for our rivals and he deserves any football fan's respect.

Maybe I am overreacting but I just don't think this is funny. The man has a family and this is basically a public venue. Show some respect.


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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2001/02/11/thomas_estate_ap/

Ha!

GoBroncos DownUnder
08-04-2009, 08:16 AM
One of the FEW games I saw in Australia was that "Shannon Sharpe d Derrick Thomas" debacle! It was hilarious!
And yes Mr. Elway is over-reacting, it's statement of fact that Thomas imploded on the field for one game, IMO there is nothing "snide" about it!


Thomas was a great player and worthy of HOF induction, but off the field, he was HUMAN just like all of us. All he had to do was wear a damn seatbelt and he'd probably be alive to see his induction!!

ohiobronco2
08-04-2009, 08:20 AM
I wonder if Shannon Sharpe is going to speak on his behalf.

I was thinking Travis Henry. Since he surpassed his record. ;D

Kaylore
08-04-2009, 08:20 AM
Thomas' death was a complete tragedy, and this is the wrong piece to be marking up with snide comments. It's written as a eulogy to honor the man. Thomas was a great player who happened to play for our rivals and he deserves any football fan's respect.

Maybe I am overreacting but I just don't think this is funny. The man has a family and this is basically a public venue. Show some respect.

Yeah I agree. The guy died and dancing on his grave by ripping on Schottenheimer or Thomas' Travis Henry-esque ventures aren't the classiest thing in the world.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 08:30 AM
Yeah I agree. The guy died and dancing on his grave by ripping on Schottenheimer or Thomas' Travis Henry-esque ventures aren't the classiest thing in the world.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...mas_estate_ap/


That's classy my friend.....



:sunshine:

Jason in LA
08-04-2009, 08:32 AM
I agree with Mr. Elway and Kaylore. Changing the name takes away from the story.

I hated DT, because he was so great and stuck it to the Broncos all the time. The hate I had for the guy was more out of respect. He was a truely great player. It would have been cool if he could have come over to the Broncos with Neil Smith.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 08:48 AM
I agree with Mr. Elway and Kaylore. Changing the name takes away from the story.

I hated DT, because he was so great and stuck it to the Broncos all the time. The hate I had for the guy was more out of respect. He was a truely great player. It would have been cool if he could have come over to the Broncos with Neil Smith.


Great player?!? Oh contraire......

1.) Where was he in the biggest game of his career?
2.) Why did he disappear in the postseason?
3.) Why was he a one dimensional one trick pony?
4.) Why is he getting into the HOF when players like...
Leslie O'Neal
Kevin Greene
Richard Dent aren't?

I could go on and on but you get the idea....

Oh yeah click on that link so you can see how classy DT was.....



:approve:

boltaneer
08-04-2009, 08:55 AM
Apparantly, some of us have warped back to third grade. Chokenheimer? I mean, really?

gunns
08-04-2009, 09:13 AM
Thomas' death was a complete tragedy, and this is the wrong piece to be marking up with snide comments. It's written as a eulogy to honor the man. Thomas was a great player who happened to play for our rivals and he deserves any football fan's respect.

Maybe I am overreacting but I just don't think this is funny. The man has a family and this is basically a public venue. Show some respect.

Yes, you are overreacting. And don't laugh if you don't think it's funny. This is a Bronco board and Thomas did go beserk on Sharpe in that game. I don't call it dancing on his grave, I call it talking about something Thomas brought on himself. He was a good player, don't necessarily think he belongs in the HOF, but he is going and I did enjoy watching him play at times. But call it what you will, I call it a complete temper tantrum. His death did not change that.

Jason in LA
08-04-2009, 09:28 AM
Great player?!? Oh contraire......

1.) Where was he in the biggest game of his career?
2.) Why did he disappear in the postseason?
3.) Why was he a one dimensional one trick pony?
4.) Why is he getting into the HOF when players like...
Leslie O'Neal
Kevin Greene
Richard Dent aren't?

I could go on and on but you get the idea....

Oh yeah click on that link so you can see how classy DT was.....



:approve:

If you want to point out that he didn't come up big in the post season, then the HOF should kick out a number of players who are in there.

One dimensional? And Kevin Greene wasn't? He only played on passing downs for a good portion of his career.

And the other guys that you named, who's to say that they won't make it in? Time will tell.

Bottom line is that DT was a great player and should be in the HOF.

Mr. Elway
08-04-2009, 09:41 AM
Yes, you are overreacting. And don't laugh if you don't think it's funny. This is a Bronco board and Thomas did go beserk on Sharpe in that game. I don't call it dancing on his grave, I call it talking about something Thomas brought on himself. He was a good player, don't necessarily think he belongs in the HOF, but he is going and I did enjoy watching him play at times. But call it what you will, I call it a complete temper tantrum. His death did not change that.

My post has nothing to do with whether or not DT lost his **** at Sharpe that day - he did, and it was funny. Our team was great then and it was a great moment. The Chiefs suck and I don't care much for Schottenheimer. Thomas also clearly made some bad calls in his personal life, as have all of us at one time or another. All of that is beside the point though.

There is a difference between making fun of someone and making fun of someone in the context of their dying, being eulogized and being honored. For crying out loud, Bronco Rob graffitied the sentence describing how upset Marty and his wife were when they found out what had happened. You really think that's fair game?

I guess if some people can't see the difference there's not much use in trying to explain it. It's not my thread and I'm new here, so I will shut up about it.

Bronco LB52
08-04-2009, 10:04 AM
Great player?!? Oh contraire......

1.) Where was he in the biggest game of his career?

What was the biggest game of his career? The 1993 AFC Championship Game?

2.) Why did he disappear in the postseason?

Disappear? He recorded 6.5 sacks in 10 career postseason games. On pace for a 10+ plus sack season.

3.) Why was he a one dimensional one trick pony?

It's not like the 3-4 outside linebacker position has a detailed job description. DT's assignment was to pin his ears back and go after the passer. He was exceptional at that one trait. Putting heat on the quarterback is one of the most highly valued aspects of football.


4.) Why is he getting into the HOF when players like...

Leslie O'Neal
Kevin Greene
Richard Dent aren't?

I could go on and on but you get the idea....

First off, O'Neal and Dent aren't the best comps for Thomas. Thomas spent the majority of his career as a 3-4 outside linebacker, while O'Neal and Dent were down linemen for a big chunk of their careers. In fact, Dent played his whole career with his hand on the ground.

Second, O'Neal, Greene and Dent simply don't measure up to Thomas.

Derrick Thomas
2-time first team NFL All-Pro
9-time Pro Bowler
Five NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Bobby Bell*, Jack Lambert*, Randy Gradishar, Dick Butkus*, Maxie Baughan, Robert Brazile, Dave Robinson, Jack Ham*, Chris Hanburger, Andre Tippett*)

Leslie O'Neal
0-time first team NFL All-Pro
6-time Pro Bowler
Two NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Jacob Green, Fred Dryer, George Andrie, Verlon Biggs, Neil Smith, Coy Bacon, Curley Culp, Vern Den Herder, Elvin Bethea*, Art Donovan*)

Richard Dent
1-time first team NFL All-Pro
4-time Pro Bowler
Two NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Claude Humphrey, Ray Childress, Neil Smith, Steve McMichael, L.C. Greenwood, Howie Long*, Jim Katcavage, Dan Hampton*, La'Roi Glover, Cortez Kennedy)

Kevin Greene
2-time first NFL All-Pro
5-time Pro Bowler
Three NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Andre Tippett*, Joe Fortunato, Andy Russell, Sam Mills, Tom Jackson, Wilber Marshall, Sam Huff*, Charles Haley, Dave Wilcox*, Chad Brown)

Grumps
08-04-2009, 10:10 AM
Way to be classy, guys. ::)

Rabb
08-04-2009, 10:35 AM
Way to be classy, guys. ::)

I agree

it is a shame, I have mad respect for DT and won't even participate in the back and forth on it...****ting on this honor even by having to be cute with the name changes is just a DB move, sorry

Garcia Bronco
08-04-2009, 10:41 AM
LB52 I agree with your post, but Richard Dent was a Super Bowl MVP. That needs to be mentioned.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 10:46 AM
There is a difference between making fun of someone and making fun of someone in the context of their dying, being eulogized and being honored. For crying out loud, Bronco Rob graffitied the sentence describing how upset Marty and his wife were when they found out what had happened. You really think that's fair game?


The Chokenheimer refrerence is a jab at marty's post season record....

When did I make fun of anyone dying?

I apologize if my parody upset your delicate sensibilities.



:-*

Spider
08-04-2009, 10:47 AM
I guess there was 2 D.T......... the one I remember , then this other fellow commanding respect ....

Beantown Bronco
08-04-2009, 10:48 AM
It would have been cool if he could have come over to the Broncos with Neil Smith.

Not for him, though. The HOF most likely wouldn't let him in then.

dbfan4life
08-04-2009, 10:48 AM
Way to be classy, guys. ::)

It's really just one guy. But yeah, not very classy on the one guys' part.

Miss I.
08-04-2009, 10:50 AM
My post has nothing to do with whether or not DT lost his **** at Sharpe that day - he did, and it was funny. Our team was great then and it was a great moment. The Chiefs suck and I don't care much for Schottenheimer. Thomas also clearly made some bad calls in his personal life, as have all of us at one time or another. All of that is beside the point though.

There is a difference between making fun of someone and making fun of someone in the context of their dying, being eulogized and being honored. For crying out loud, Bronco Rob graffitied the sentence describing how upset Marty and his wife were when they found out what had happened. You really think that's fair game?

I guess if some people can't see the difference there's not much use in trying to explain it. It's not my thread and I'm new here, so I will shut up about it.

This

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 11:00 AM
Derrick Thomas didn't play the run or the pass.

He was surrounded by talented players and focal point of the defenses in Kansas City.

He has 601 career tackles.

He has 1 I repeat 1 career interception.

He only led the NFL in sacks once. (1990)

In the biggest game of his career (a drubbing by the Bills) he was on the bench.

He never took his team to the next level. (3 career playoff victories)


1. Bruce Smith 200.0
2. Reggie White+ 198.0
3. Kevin Greene 160.0
4. Chris Doleman 150.5
5. Michael Strahan 141.5
6. John Randle 137.5
Richard Dent 137.5
8. Leslie O'Neal 132.5
Lawrence Taylor+ 132.5
10. Rickey Jackson 128.0
11. Derrick Thomas 126.5
12. Simeon Rice 122.0
13. Clyde Simmons 121.5
14. Jason Taylor (34) 120.5
15. Sean Jones 113.0
16. Greg Townsend 109.5 1983-1997
17. Pat Swilling 107.5
18. Trace Armstrong 106.0
19. Neil Smith 104.5
Kevin Carter (35) 104.5

I guess since all DT did was sack the QB all these players belong in the HOF.







;)

Spider
08-04-2009, 11:02 AM
LOL I remember Kevin Greene ........ what ever happened to that silly bastard ?

Bronco LB52
08-04-2009, 11:03 AM
LB52 I agree with your post, but Richard Dent was a Super Bowl MVP. That needs to be mentioned.

That's an excellent point. You're right.

Here are the major awards won by the players...

Derrick Thomas: 1989 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year

Leslie O'Neal: 1986 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year

Richard Dent: Super Bowl XX MVP

Kevin Greene: None

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 11:06 AM
That's an excellent point. You're right.

Here are the major awards won by the players...

Derrick Thomas: 1989 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year

Leslie O'Neal: 1986 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year

Richard Dent: Super Bowl XX MVP

Kevin Greene: None


Kevin Greene : More Sacks than DT

More Tackles than DT

More Interceptions....

you get the idea......

gunns
08-04-2009, 11:07 AM
My post has nothing to do with whether or not DT lost his **** at Sharpe that day - he did, and it was funny. Our team was great then and it was a great moment. The Chiefs suck and I don't care much for Schottenheimer. Thomas also clearly made some bad calls in his personal life, as have all of us at one time or another. All of that is beside the point though.

There is a difference between making fun of someone and making fun of someone in the context of their dying, being eulogized and being honored. For crying out loud, Bronco Rob graffitied the sentence describing how upset Marty and his wife were when they found out what had happened. You really think that's fair game?

I guess if some people can't see the difference there's not much use in trying to explain it. It's not my thread and I'm new here, so I will shut up about it.

So because the OP was graffitied with "until the playoffs" that ruins a eulogy. (which I don't see that it is that). Ok. Pretty tame in my opinion, I'm more surprised at the worship. God help anyone that makes me more than what I was in life after I die. I have respect for what Thomas did do and for Marty's pain at his passing but I think it's a little overboard on making Marty's name different and the "until the playoffs" as disrespectful of his death.

Bronco LB52
08-04-2009, 11:21 AM
Kevin Greene : More Sacks than DT

More Tackles than DT

More Interceptions....

you get the idea......

Greene played four more seasons. DT averaged more sacks (11.5) per season than Greene (10.7) did.

It would be dumb for a defensive coordinator to drop DT back into coverage when he's such a force attacking the passer. Who gives a flying **** about how many INTs DT hauled in? It's irrelevant.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 11:26 AM
Greene played four more seasons. DT averaged more sacks (11.5) per season than Greene (10.7) did.

It would be dumb for a defensive coordinator to drop DT back into coverage when he's such a force attacking the passer. Who gives a flying **** about how many INTs DT hauled in? It's irrelevant.


Irrelevant was Thomas's play against the run and the pass....

Greene never had a defense bulit around him.....

He played in Superbowls unlike DT

No one has to "drop back into coverage to get INTs...

Case in point DT's seven sacks game...The cheefs lost...ya wanna know why?

I'll tell ya...He was going for sack # 8 instead of going for the ball.....

Trust me I live in KC and went to most of Dt's games.....

All DT cared about of hollow stats..He was never a team player..




;)

Spider
08-04-2009, 11:29 AM
Specialist in football .......... Guy is going to the HOF and Gradishar isnt WTF is that about ? ........ oh wait , we have to be classy ........

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Specialist in football .......... Guy is going to the HOF and Gradishar isnt WTF is that about ? ........ oh wait , we have to be classy ........




:~ohyah!:;)

ZachKC
08-04-2009, 12:33 PM
DT...only 1 interception....

Coming real strong with the info Rob.

ZachKC
08-04-2009, 12:34 PM
Yeah I agree. The guy died and dancing on his grave by ripping on Schottenheimer or Thomas' Travis Henry-esque ventures aren't the classiest thing in the world.

Oh well...this thread says more about the thread starter than DT.

GoBroncos DownUnder
08-04-2009, 12:43 PM
Oh well...this thread says more about the thread starter than DT.
It "says" that DT was a great player in the NFL.
But an irresponsible person in real life.
Sad but true.
It's sad for ANYONE to die like that.

DomCasual
08-04-2009, 12:52 PM
I won't say anything about DT, the person - other than that it's always been interesting to me how people become saints after they die.

But from a football standpoint, that Shannon Sharpe game had to be one of the most completely satisfying, enjoyable games I ever watched. It was a game so good that you almost couldn't believe what you had just witnessed, when it was done.

It was supposed to be a true test for the 12-0 Broncos. It was a nationally-televised November game in Kansas City, which had been a house of horrors for us. Bubby Brister was starting - he had been brilliant when Elway was hurt that year, but it was still Bubby Brister in November in Kansas City.

The meltdown was, to this day, the worst I've ever seen in sports. He was just out of control. IIRC, he had FIVE unsportsmanlike conduct penalties! I've never heard of a player getting that many in a game. Thomas had them in ONE DRIVE!

Awesome.:rofl:

ZachKC
08-04-2009, 01:04 PM
It "says" that DT was a great player in the NFL.
But an irresponsible person in real life.
Sad but true.
It's sad for ANYONE to die like that.

I am making no claims about DT being a perfect person.

I don't think any of your comments invalidates my post.

Broncos_OTM
08-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Thomas' death was a complete tragedy, and this is the wrong piece to be marking up with snide comments. It's written as a eulogy to honor the man. Thomas was a great player who happened to play for our rivals and he deserves any football fan's respect.

Maybe I am overreacting but I just don't think this is funny. The man has a family and this is basically a public venue. Show some respect.+1 tottaly with out class rob.

Spider
08-04-2009, 02:38 PM
Meh ..classless or not , a man is judged by his actions , well it used to be that way , D.T. didnt do much off the field that was worth much ....... Work hard , bust your ass , do the best you can do for your family ......Not to see how many bastard kids you can have

Garcia Bronco
08-04-2009, 02:41 PM
I won't say anything about DT, the person - other than that it's always been interesting to me how people become saints after they die.

But from a football standpoint, that Shannon Sharpe game had to be one of the most completely satisfying, enjoyable games I ever watched. It was a game so good that you almost couldn't believe what you had just witnessed, when it was done.

It was supposed to be a true test for the 12-0 Broncos. It was a nationally-televised November game in Kansas City, which had been a house of horrors for us. Bubby Brister was starting - he had been brilliant when Elway was hurt that year, but it was still Bubby Brister in November in Kansas City.

The meltdown was, to this day, the worst I've ever seen in sports. He was just out of control. IIRC, he had FIVE unsportsmanlike conduct penalties! I've never heard of a player getting that many in a game. Thomas had them in ONE DRIVE!

Awesome.:rofl:


HE and the other guy, I want to say his name was Simmons, should have been thrown out. I would have.

Garcia Bronco
08-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Irrelevant was Thomas's play against the run and the pass....

Greene never had a defense bulit around him.....

He played in Superbowls unlike DT

No one has to "drop back into coverage to get INTs...

Case in point DT's seven sacks game...The cheefs lost...ya wanna know why?

I'll tell ya...He was going for sack # 8 instead of going for the ball.....

Trust me I live in KC and went to most of Dt's games.....

All DT cared about of hollow stats..He was never a team player..




;)

Seriously....the lost that game. I had never heard that. LOL

footstepsfrom#27
08-04-2009, 02:54 PM
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2001/02/11/thomas_estate_ap/

Ha!
He's right Mr. 800 posts in 8 years.

Northman
08-04-2009, 03:10 PM
Thomas was a great player no doubt but he did have some character issues (which shouldnt and wont keep him out of the HOF). But i always find it funny when people jump on their soapboxes and start preaching about class.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 04:27 PM
Case in point DT's seven sacks game...The cheefs lost...ya wanna know why?

I'll tell ya...He was going for sack # 8 instead of going for the ball.....

Trust me I live in KC and went to most of Dt's games.....

All DT cared about of hollow stats..He was never a team player.



Seriously....the lost that game. I had never heard that. LOL



Thomas of Chiefs Gets 7 Sacks

Published: Monday, November 12, 1990

Derrick Thomas set a National Football League record today with seven quarterback sacks, but could only agonize over the one that got away.

As time expired, Seattle's Dave Krieg wriggled free of Thomas and heaved a desperation 25-yard touchdown pass to Paul Skansi in the end zone. Norm Johnson booted the extra point to give the Seahawks a 17-16 victory over the stunned Kansas City Chiefs.

"I thought I had him," said Thomas, a linebacker who won the A.F.C. defensive Rookie of the Year award last season. "He just stumbled back and caught his balance and threw the pass. That last sack I didn't get is the one I'm going to remember."

Skansi, surrounded by defenders, leaped high in the middle of the end zone to make the catch.

Thomas's third sack knocked Krieg loose from the ball in the third quarter and the noseguard Dan Saleaumua recovered for the Chiefs' only touchdown in three weeks. That made the score 16-10, and the Seahawks had one last shot after forcing the Chiefs to punt.

Four seconds remained when Krieg took the final snap and scrambled away from Thomas.

Seattle (4-5) had not won in Kansas City since 1980. The Chiefs (5-4) suffered their first loss in five home games.

Thomas, who now leads the league with 15 sacks, broke the N.F.L. single-game record of six set by San Francisco's Fred Dean against New Orleans in 1983. His 15 sacks are also a team record.

Thomas had special inspiration before the game. Robert Thomas, a captain in the Air Force, was shot down over Vietnam and was last seen parachuting out. Derrick Thomas grew up in Alabama thinking about the dad he never knew.

Then in pregame ceremonies Sunday before the Chiefs' game against Seattle, four Air Force jets flew over Arrowhead Stadium. A few minutes before kickoff, an Air Force officer, Capt. Jim Preston, gave Derrick a yellow headband for luck.

"Whenever Air Force planes fly over the stadium, it gives me a great deal of motivation," said Thomas. "And then I was given this headband I have on by an Air Force officer. It did have lots of significance for me."

Photo: Chief's Derrick Thomas sacking Seahawks' Dave Krieg for a 5-yard loss yesterday. Thomas had seven sacks in the game. (Reuters)


http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/12/sports/thomas-of-chiefs-gets-7-sacks.html


There ya have it folks...DT's career in a nutshell...


:thumbs:

Jason in LA
08-04-2009, 05:39 PM
What was the biggest game of his career? The 1993 AFC Championship Game?



Disappear? He recorded 6.5 sacks in 10 career postseason games. On pace for a 10+ plus sack season.



It's not like the 3-4 outside linebacker position has a detailed job description. DT's assignment was to pin his ears back and go after the passer. He was exceptional at that one trait. Putting heat on the quarterback is one of the most highly valued aspects of football.




First off, O'Neal and Dent aren't the best comps for Thomas. Thomas spent the majority of his career as a 3-4 outside linebacker, while O'Neal and Dent were down linemen for a big chunk of their careers. In fact, Dent played his whole career with his hand on the ground.

Second, O'Neal, Greene and Dent simply don't measure up to Thomas.

Derrick Thomas
2-time first team NFL All-Pro
9-time Pro Bowler
Five NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Bobby Bell*, Jack Lambert*, Randy Gradishar, Dick Butkus*, Maxie Baughan, Robert Brazile, Dave Robinson, Jack Ham*, Chris Hanburger, Andre Tippett*)

Leslie O'Neal
0-time first team NFL All-Pro
6-time Pro Bowler
Two NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Jacob Green, Fred Dryer, George Andrie, Verlon Biggs, Neil Smith, Coy Bacon, Curley Culp, Vern Den Herder, Elvin Bethea*, Art Donovan*)

Richard Dent
1-time first team NFL All-Pro
4-time Pro Bowler
Two NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Claude Humphrey, Ray Childress, Neil Smith, Steve McMichael, L.C. Greenwood, Howie Long*, Jim Katcavage, Dan Hampton*, La'Roi Glover, Cortez Kennedy)

Kevin Greene
2-time first NFL All-Pro
5-time Pro Bowler
Three NFL HOF players on his most similar list
(Andre Tippett*, Joe Fortunato, Andy Russell, Sam Mills, Tom Jackson, Wilber Marshall, Sam Huff*, Charles Haley, Dave Wilcox*, Chad Brown)

He shoots... He scores!!!!!

Jason in LA
08-04-2009, 05:41 PM
Oh well...this thread says more about the thread starter than DT.

Yep, that appears to be the case.

Bronco Rob
08-04-2009, 05:47 PM
Case in point DT's seven sacks game...The cheefs lost...ya wanna know why?

I'll tell ya...He was going for sack # 8 instead of going for the ball.....

Trust me I live in KC and went to most of Dt's games.....

All DT cared about of hollow stats..He was never a team player.



Seriously....the lost that game. I had never heard that. LOL



Thomas of Chiefs Gets 7 Sacks

Published: Monday, November 12, 1990

Derrick Thomas set a National Football League record today with seven quarterback sacks, but could only agonize over the one that got away.

As time expired, Seattle's Dave Krieg wriggled free of Thomas and heaved a desperation 25-yard touchdown pass to Paul Skansi in the end zone. Norm Johnson booted the extra point to give the Seahawks a 17-16 victory over the stunned Kansas City Chiefs.

"I thought I had him," said Thomas, a linebacker who won the A.F.C. defensive Rookie of the Year award last season. "He just stumbled back and caught his balance and threw the pass. That last sack I didn't get is the one I'm going to remember."

Skansi, surrounded by defenders, leaped high in the middle of the end zone to make the catch.

Thomas's third sack knocked Krieg loose from the ball in the third quarter and the noseguard Dan Saleaumua recovered for the Chiefs' only touchdown in three weeks. That made the score 16-10, and the Seahawks had one last shot after forcing the Chiefs to punt.

Four seconds remained when Krieg took the final snap and scrambled away from Thomas.

Seattle (4-5) had not won in Kansas City since 1980. The Chiefs (5-4) suffered their first loss in five home games.

Thomas, who now leads the league with 15 sacks, broke the N.F.L. single-game record of six set by San Francisco's Fred Dean against New Orleans in 1983. His 15 sacks are also a team record.

Thomas had special inspiration before the game. Robert Thomas, a captain in the Air Force, was shot down over Vietnam and was last seen parachuting out. Derrick Thomas grew up in Alabama thinking about the dad he never knew.

Then in pregame ceremonies Sunday before the Chiefs' game against Seattle, four Air Force jets flew over Arrowhead Stadium. A few minutes before kickoff, an Air Force officer, Capt. Jim Preston, gave Derrick a yellow headband for luck.

"Whenever Air Force planes fly over the stadium, it gives me a great deal of motivation," said Thomas. "And then I was given this headband I have on by an Air Force officer. It did have lots of significance for me."

Photo: Chief's Derrick Thomas sacking Seahawks' Dave Krieg for a 5-yard loss yesterday. Thomas had seven sacks in the game. (Reuters)


http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/12/sports/thomas-of-chiefs-gets-7-sacks.html


There ya have it folks...DT's career in a nutshell...


:thumbs:


He shoots... He scores!!!!!



Thank ya....thank ya veruh muchaa.....:afro: