View Full Version : Organizational Chart of Demos Healthcare plan
07-31-2009, 01:39 PM
The House democrats don't want this to get out and when one looks at the chart, not hard to figure out why. Hardly a simple plan and program. Plus here is a couple of provisions in it:
"In Section 1233 E & F pp 426-433 you will find the language and portion that establishes mandatory end-of-life counseling for senior citizens over age 65 every five years, or sooner if beneficiary becomes ill."
"Section 123 Page 30: A government Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend what treatments and benefits are available. Once accepted and adopted by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, there is no appeal."
Here's a website for more provisions and the chart the house democrats don't want the public to see:
07-31-2009, 02:07 PM
Thats why we need single payer healthcare and we throw out the window both corporate for profit Dem and Repub. plans.
07-31-2009, 02:21 PM
I guess pretty much anything in the bill that the GOP opposes can now be eligible to be described as something the Congressional supporters of the bill "don't want to get out". Of course the fact that it's in plain sight in the bill and posted on the web where millions can see it might conflict with that idea.
Here's a website for more provisions and the chart the house democrats don't want the public to see
Looking at this chart, I can't possibly imagine why they would care if we see it or not, since 1) an organizational chart has no real meaning by itself, and 2) how many people care to examine that anyway?
If you're going to make some legitimate arguments about the bill, it would be helpful to simply address those rather than nitpicking over the existence of some chart that shows the federal government's relational matrix. What possible benefit exists in that?
07-31-2009, 03:44 PM
Usually if something is too complicated to understand and implement, it's too complicated to work.
08-01-2009, 05:28 AM
The House democrats don't want this to get out and when one looks at the chart, not hard to figure out why.You are nothing more than an ignorant uneducated right wing parrot. That bill is posted on government websites along with hundreds of other sites.
08-01-2009, 06:39 AM
That really looks streamlined to me!
Like a Nazi deathmarch.
08-01-2009, 11:55 AM
You are nothing more than an ignorant uneducated right wing parrot. That bill is posted on government websites along with hundreds of other sites.
Look who is talking. Oh what, want to post a fake address again to fight like a girl as you are? Please, the bill is thousands of pages long. Have you read it or in your case, had someone read it to you. I bet not. You suck the ass of anyone with a "d" by their name, so that's as "educated" as you get on any subject.
08-01-2009, 11:59 AM
Those that support Obama and the democrats and this crazy healthcare scheme don't want to know specifics and will trust them to just do whatever. Anything that turns out not to do well can just be blamed on Bush or some republican they can think of at the time.
This chart goes to show that the current medical system we have will be considered child's play when comparing it to this complicated mess and that's the point. Instead of making some changes here and there with our medical care, we are about to throw it all out and start from scratch and anyone objective would tell you we didn't need to go to this extreme.
We've had many people coming to this country from all over the world to get medical care here for a reason. If this bill gets passed, I doubt that will be the case ever again.