will the sh*t hit the fan later this year?

[mhgaffney]

We are seeing a cluster of stories -- part rumor -- part factual -- about major changes in the wind later this year.

One story is based on leaked memos from the US State Department. If the memos are to be believed -- they indicate that US officials now expect an even deeper economic collapse this fall - possibly by late September.

Other disturbing reports hint this will be accompanied by a new war - - possibly involving an attack on Iran -- no doubt to divert the American people from the real issues. Many times in history economic crises have been accompanied by new wars. Is the future being decided for us -- again?

This latter possibility involves a disinfo campaign -- exposed by William Engdahl - that Saudi Arabia tacitly supports a war with Iran. Not true-- says Engdahl. So, who is spreading the lies?

Check out these closely related stories:

Many Predict US Financial Collapse in September

by Charles (A Reader)

http://www.henrymakow.com/perhaps_we_should_prepare_for.html

Let us contemplate the day in the near future when the consequences of financial chicanery finally outpace the ability of the governments, central banks and big media to cover up and obfuscate the truth. Many respected voices have now gone on record that September 30 or thereabouts will be that day.

Bob Chapman [Internationalforecaster.com] revealed that the US State Dept has advised embassies worldwide to stock up on a year's worth of the local currency in anticipation of collapse of the US dollar. Look for a temporary banking shutdown timed for around September 2009. As under Roosevelt, some banks won't reopen. 96% of bank reserves are currently held with the Federal Reserve who tells the banks not to loan the money, but rather to save it for further banking acquisition and consolidation. Chapman foresees a bank holiday lasting 4-5 days. Chapman thinks this first bank holiday presages a much more significant bank holiday months to years later which will involve simultaneous devaluations of multiple currencies as well as other significant changes in the banking system.

Harry Shultz [as quoted in marketwatch.com] says "Some U.S. embassies worldwide are being advised to purchase massive amounts of local currencies; enough to last them a year. Some embassies are being sent enormous amounts of U.S. cash to purchase currencies from those governments, quietly. But not pound sterling. Inside the State Dept., there is a sense of sadness and foreboding that 'something' is about to happen ... within 180 days, but could be 120-150 days."

Benjamin Fulford [http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/] states that for almost a century the US Treasury Dept has been issuing specialized debt instruments to countries with which the US has had a trade surplus. These complex debt instruments are tailored by complex treaties. Unfortunately, the recent US Treasury funding needs exceed the willingness of these creditor nations to extend additional credit. Fulford writes, "The problem is that after nearly a century of issuing these debt instruments, the chickens are coming home to roost. President Obama tried at the recent G8 plus 5 meeting in Italy to borrow more money than George Bush junior did in 8 years. He was told a resounding no. The result should be total economic chaos in the U.S. by September 30th . "

Jim Willie [goldenjackass.com] writes of an Asian led initiative ending dollar hegemony beginning this weekend. Willie suspects that the Fed/Treasury is covertly loaning foreign central banks the money with which the central banks are now using to buy US debt. Increasingly, US debt is being bought by foreign central banks taking up the slack of investors abandoning US Treasury debt. Willie confirms Chapman's comments and says he solicited and received "multiple confirmations." He adds, "CHAOS WILL PREVAIL WITHIN SEVERAL MONTHS, PERHAPS A YEAR AT MOST{his emphasis}."

Jim Sinclair [jsmineset.com] has recently visited China meeting with its leaders. He states that China is increasingly more willing to take on the United States in its apparent maneuvers to inflate its way out of its debt crisis. In early July Sinclair started a 120 day countdown till breakdown of the US dollar ends market manipulation and all those sour economic chickens come home to roost.

OUT OF TRICKS

Seemingly the Federal Reserve/US Treasury have exhausted their bag of tricks. The Fed is fighting rising interest rates, a difficult task given the hyperinflationary debt financing it is now doing. Once rising pressure on interest rates become too much for the Fed to control, there will probably be several sudden economic and financial surprises cascading with currently known dilemmas: crashing dollar; increasing home mortgage defaults; commercial mortgage defaults reaching critical mass; falling bond and stock markets extending insolvency of pension funds; defaults on debt by state and local governments. And don't forget derivatives and further exposure of corruption and criminality on Wall Street. Bernie Madoff may soon have lots of company.

Unable to produce any more financial wizardry, the cynical federal government is arrayed in full battle dress uniform: 1] Mass forced swine flu vaccinations scheduled this fall performed under the specter of martial law; 2] Rumblings of extending the wars in Asia into Iran and Pakistan; 3] Rekindling the Korean conflict may also be in the cards. Of course, don't forget that both Iran and North Korea are client states of the British World Order. All the recent saber rattling involving Iran and North Korea is wholly orchestrated. We need the distractions from the economic crisis, so our clients Ahmadinejad and Kim provide us with the necessary theater. So what will come first, further banner headlines of dollar collapse and market crashes or the distracting theater of more war or 911 type events?

What will this fall really bring? It is not too far away so we shall soon know. Unfortunately, it may make last fall look pretty tame. When the government answers economic distress by preparing for the worst, then the worst may very well be what happens.

[mhgaffney]

Evidently Paulson thinks the American people would freak out if they knew how bad the financial situation is.

The "bigger problem" he fears is probably open rebellion of hundreds of millions of angry Americans -- fed up with Wall Street and the fed.

MHG

Paulson reveals US concerns of breakdown in law and order

By Stephen Foley in New York


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/paulson-reveals-us-concerns-of-breakdown-in-law-and-order-1750076.html

Friday, 17 July 2009

The Bush administration and Congress discussed the possibility of a breakdown in law and order and the logistics of feeding US citizens if commerce and banking collapsed as a result of last autumn's financial panic, it was disclosed yesterday.

Making his first appearance on Capitol Hill since leaving office, the former Treasury secretary Hank Paulson said it was important at the time not to reveal the extent of officials' concerns, for fear it would "terrify the American people and lead to an even bigger problem".

Mr Paulson testified to the House Oversight Committee on the Bush administration's unpopular $700bn (£426bn) bailout of Wall Street, which was triggered by the failure of Lehman Brothers last September. In the days that followed, a run on some of the safest investment vehicles in the financial markets threatened to make it impossible for people to access their savings.

Paul Kanjorski, a Pennsylvania Democrat, asked Mr Paulson to reveal details of officials' concerns, which were relayed to Congress in hasty conference calls last year. The calls included discussion of law and order and whether it would be possible to feed the American people, and for how long, according to Mr Kanjorski.

"In a world where information can flow, money can move with the speed of light electronically, I looked at the ripple effect, and looked at when a financial system fails, a whole country's economic system can fail," Mr Paulson said. "I believe we could have gone back to the sorts of situations we saw in the Depression. I try not to use hyperbole. It's impossible to prove now since it didn't happen."

The Oversight committee is investigating the takeover of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, a deal forged in the desperate weekend that Lehman Brothers failed, and which later required government support because of Merrill's spiralling losses.

Mr Paulson defended putting pressure on Bank of America when it had last-minute doubts about the deal in December. Not to have done so could have rekindled the "financial havoc" the bailout had calmed.

[mhgaffney]

Here are three excellent reports by William Engdahl. The first is about US attempts to control the energy flow from central Asia to Europe --

http://www.rense.com/general86/usstrat.htm

The second report is about probable CIA interference in China's western province Xinjiang, where there have been ethnic clashes in recent days.

But why would the CIA seek to destabilize western China? The answer is simple -- to disrupt China's plans to build major gas and oil pipelines from Central Asia. New pipelines would make China much less vulnerable to the ongoing US policy of limiting and controlling China's economic growth.

This is a must read:

http://www.rense.com/general86/wash.htm

Finally, when Engdahl personally investigated a recent report by the London Times that Saudi Arabia would tacitly support an Israeli attack on Iran -- he learned that the story is totally false. Some one has been lying to us -- AGAIN. I wonder who.

Check it out:
http://www.rense.com/general86/times.htm

[SoCalBronco]

I don't get it. What does this have to do with Israel?

[footstepsfrom#27]

I don't get it. What does this have to do with Israel?
You had to ask.

[W*GS]

gaffney's been saying "will the **** hit the fan later this year" for several years running now.

The dude is more wrong than Roseanne Barr in a thong.

[BroncoBuff]

I feel dirty when I read your stuff G....

[Fedaykin]

gaffney's been saying "will the **** hit the fan later this year" for several years running now.

The dude is more wrong than Roseanne Barr in a thong.

and eventually it will hit the fan, and he'll claim he predicted it. Oldest trick in the predicting the future book.

[Requiem]

Hopefully you'll hit the fan and splatter everywhere.

[mhgaffney]

I feel dirty when I read your stuff G....

Buff,

If you feel dirty - then maybe you are...

Then again, maybe you just need to use that muscle that G-d gave you -- between your ears

There is nothing new under the sun. In our lifetime we have seen war after war after war.

Most of these wars were provoked and staged by the same small group of white men -- who live in America.

They gave us the Korean and Viet Nam Wars -- dozens of low level conflicts in out of the way places that most people have never heard of --

the same crew tempted the USSR into invading Afghanistan.

The same crew gave us 9/11 and the two present ongoing wars, which, we now know -- were fomented under false pretenses.

Is there any reason to think they won't do it again? War is the tried and tested formula for controlling the masses.

I ask you.

The other question is: Who benefits?

MHG

[W*GS]

I'll answer gaffney's "who benefits" question, as gaff-o would.

The Jews.

gaffo-o is one moronic ****wad.

[Requiem]

The other question is: Who benefits?

We'd all benefit if you went to the highest cliff in your area, closed your eyes and jumped off it. Please take this into consideration. All of us here highly recommend it.

[BroncoBuff]

Buff,

If you feel dirty - then maybe you are...

Then again, maybe you just need to use that muscle that G-d gave you -- between your ears

There is nothing new under the sun. In our lifetime we have seen war after war after war.

Most of these wars were provoked and staged by the same small group of white men -- who live in America.

They gave us the Korean and Viet Nam Wars -- dozens of low level conflicts in out of the way places that most people have never heard of --

the same crew tempted the USSR into invading Afghanistan.

The same crew gave us 9/11 and the two present ongoing wars, which, we now know -- were fomented under false pretenses.

Is there any reason to think they won't do it again? War is the tried and tested formula for controlling the masses.

I ask you.

The other question is: Who benefits?

MHG

The "dirty" thing was a joke okay?

The question "who benefits?" entered the lexicon when Donald Sutherland said it in JFK. Great line for a movie, but there's just one problem: It's a borderline irrelevant question, which is why motive is not an element of most crimes.

There's always a beneficiary of any event, disaster, war, but that doesn't necessarily mean (usually doesn't mean) they had anything to do with causing the event.

Of course these are general objections to your theory, let me address one in particular: What kind of "control of the masses" was necessary in 2001? What was the rampant social upheaval, or groundswell of revolutionary thought that even the most Machiavelleian of megalomaniac would consider provocation to klaunch a 9/11 event?

[Spider]

gaffney's been saying "will the **** hit the fan later this year" for several years running now.

The dude is more wrong than Roseanne Barr in a thong.

you bastard ..... i need therapy now

[snowspot66]

Really? A war with Iran? Because we're in a recession and it could possibly get worse? Do you honestly believe that?

All of these wars and depressions preceding them you are talking about don't take into consideration that the current state of events has the U.S. already engaged in 8 years of ongoing and highly unpopular war. A pretty big oversight in the comparison if you ask me.

The Iranians don't want to fight us and we don't want to fight them. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Even if there are a few dozen rich people leading us around on a string they can't make us support a war we don't want and you can't possibly explain to me how people who are supposedly already in control of everything would want to start wars and depressions all over the world which would basically destabilize everything they already control.

Would you go around your house breaking your own ****?

[watermock]

Popular opinion means little or nothing on decisions to go to war..

Particliarly disturbing is this new escalaion in Afghanistan.

Public opinion has always been against wars, yet "events" seen to trigger gov'ts into them.

[snowspot66]

WWI we entered after public opinion shifted towards engagement.

WWII the same thing. We were actually kept out of war because of public opinion despite the fact that Roosevelt was doing everything in his power to provide assistance to the Allies years before we even joined the fight.

Korea and Vietnam ushered in a new era where people didn't really care. They thought we would go in, kick ass, and come home because damnit this is America!

Recent wars were supported and only turned sour later. The escalation in Afghanistan is what should have happened 8 years ago. Better late than never I guess.

We won't go to war with Iran without clear evidence of a direct attack against our country. The American people are tired. They won't accept another fight.

[TDmvp]

Roseanne Barr in a thong.



you bastard ..... i need therapy now

O come on Spider ... We know you would hit it from just listening to you around here...

[Rohirrim]

Popular opinion means little or nothing on decisions to go to war..

Particliarly disturbing is this new escalaion in Afghanistan.

Public opinion has always been against wars, yet "events" seen to trigger gov'ts into them.

Try to remember: The people who attacked us on 911 are hiding in Afghanistan and they are still intent on killing as many of us as they possibly can. I suggest we kill them first.

As far as Gaff's **** goes, same old **** - different day. Gaff sits in a tree hoping for road kill. It's what vultures do.

[mhgaffney]

Snowspot,

Public opinion in the US was strongly against entering WW I -- and WW II. Public opinion had to be railroaded in both cases.

In WW I this was done through a sacrificial offering -- a borderline false flag operation -- the sinking of the Lusitania -

Few people knew at the time the ship was carrying arms and explosives to England. In fact it was the massive explosion of this ordnance that sunk the ship -- not the torpedo that hit it.

The Germans actually tried to post warnings in US newspapers before the Lusitania sailed -- warning Americans not to sail on the ship -- and that it was a target. But the US state department got wind of the ad -- and had it pulled from all newspapers but one in the US.

In short, the US government manipulated events -- to stampede the US public into war fever. After ther Lusitania -- Germans were no longer Germans but had been dehumanized into Huns...

At the time of WW II - same deal. There is a lot of evidence that FDR knew about the coming Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor -- and not only allowed it to happen -- but encouraged it.

The US government falsely blamed two admirals for dereliction of duty -- at Pearl. The admirals were framed and court marshaled -- which is the real reason why Pearl Harbor truly lives in infamy.

Of course, after 9/11 -- as we know -- no one was held accountable. Instead, most of the individuals at key positions were promoted.

That tells it all.

[mhgaffney]

FYI, US public opinion was largely against the first and second gulf wars. And this despite a massive media blitz -- involving the repetition ad infinitum of lies -- to scare the American people and generate support for war.

If the media had simply told the truth -- opposition to the wars would have increased -- making it impossible for the government to stampede the nation.

Use your common sense. Who benefits from these insane wars? The answer is: a tiny group of white men -- banksters, industrialists, oil tycoons, the same group time after time.

These evil men make money off war. During WW II they traded with the Nazis AND the allies.

Bush and many fellow neo cons profit from their wars through their investments in the Carlyle Group and Haliburton etc.

It's a money making scam -- that depends on public acquiescence -- and involves the transfer of wealth from YOUR pocket -- tax dollars -- into private hands.

Wake up. It's your money. And your sons and daughters who will die in the next war in the Gulf.

[mhgaffney]

The "dirty" thing was a joke okay?

The question "who benefits?" entered the lexicon when Donald Sutherland said it in JFK. Great line for a movie, but there's just one problem: It's a borderline irrelevant question, which is why motive is not an element of most crimes.

There's always a beneficiary of any event, disaster, war, but that doesn't necessarily mean (usually doesn't mean) they had anything to do with causing the event.

Of course these are general objections to your theory, let me address one in particular: What kind of "control of the masses" was necessary in 2001? What was the rampant social upheaval, or groundswell of revolutionary thought that even the most Machiavelleian of megalomaniac would consider provocation to klaunch a 9/11 event?


It is incredible that after all this time -- you don't know the answer to your own question.

Before Bush entered office the neocons posted a detailed analysis -- a plan for US world domination. It was very straightforward -- very candid.

It called for the US to expand use of military force world wide to secure US access to resources like oil -- and no doubt to preserve the hegemony of the US dollar.

The neo con paper acknowledged that public support for such a plan was lacking. Its implementation would not be possible without "some catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor..."

You are naive, Buff. A small group of international bankers and industrialists have manipulated our nation and other nations into war after war after war...

If the people (like you) do not wake up to this and put a stop to it -- war will put an end to mankind. Simple as that. We are drifting toward a nuclear disaster - all too real -- and possible.

[mhgaffney]

The neo con group is called THE PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY.

The paper outlining the plan for US world domination is still on their site. Of course, it is all framed as defense. But that is a lie:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

[W*GS]

gaff-o is a little slow on the upchuck.

He's like the OM's very own "National Enquirer" - always breathless and bringing us the latest, oh so latest, "news".

Hilarious.

[Dukes]

You're one sick f*ck Gaff. Seriously.

[ElwayMD]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pape01/3070786232/

I believe everything that Gaff says!

I'm going to quit my job and go live in the woods!

[Requiem]

I say the moderators release Gaffney's IP to the public, allowing us to get a crack at pooping on his front door step. Perhaps a pimp-slap as well.

[Florida_Bronco]

Few people knew at the time the ship was carrying arms and explosives to England. It was non explosive small arms casings and fuses. Perfectly legal.

In fact it was the massive explosion of this ordnance that sunk the ship -- not the torpedo that hit it. That's a lie. It's just another conspiracy theory by you ****ing loons. All the maritime experts (you know, people who actually have a background in this) that I've read are in agreement that the torpedo alone would have sank the ship and that the second explosion was likely a steam explosion.

[Florida_Bronco]

I say the moderators release Gaffney's IP to the public, allowing us to get a crack at pooping on his front door step. Perhaps a pimp-slap as well.

Have you seen the guy's picture? I've never laughed so hard in my life.

[W*GS]

All the maritime experts (you know, people who actually have a background in this) that I've read are in agreement that the torpedo alone would have sank the ship and that the second explosion was likely a steam explosion.

Also coal dust in the now-empty bunkers may have played a part.

[BroncoBuff]

It is incredible that after all this time -- you don't know the answer to your own question.

Before Bush entered office the neocons posted a detailed analysis -- a plan for US world domination. It was very straightforward -- very candid.

It called for the US to expand use of military force world wide to secure US access to resources like oil -- and no doubt to preserve the hegemony of the US dollar.

The neo con paper acknowledged that public support for such a plan was lacking. Its implementation would not be possible without "some catalyzing event -- like a new Pearl Harbor..."

You are naive, Buff. A small group of international bankers and industrialists have manipulated our nation and other nations into war after war after war...

If the people (like you) do not wake up to this and put a stop to it -- war will put an end to mankind. Simple as that. We are drifting toward a nuclear disaster - all too real -- and possible.

I know all that ... but it's not a persuasive argument, and here's just one reason why: Planning to pull off such an event would be a colossally complicated undertaking. No way could they pull it off in 9 months. We know Bush only won the election (if at all) in early December ... which would leave them a ridiculously short window. Plus there would have been leaks, if not full-blown whistleblowers. "They" simply could not have put together and set into motion sufficient materials, massive explosives etc, without drawing serious attention.

Contrast that with the mainstream theory (i.e. the truth), that al Qaeda players had been in the states attending flight schools and planning this event for several years.

Which one sounds more plausible? (More PLAUSIBLE, not what you beleive)

[BroncoBuff]

And regarding leaks and whistleblowers ... you have to remember what an earth-shattering event this was. And if you understand the tenacity of the news media and its multi-tentacled outlets - each one voracious to break the big story - you see how impossible it would be to keep this secret. There would have been multiple headlines like:


"Speaking on the condition of anonymity, two Dow Chemical employees at the corporate giant's world headquarters near Dover Delaware told Politico this week that massive quantities of C4 explosives were requisitioned by unknown parties in the Spring and Summer of 2001. These purchases came outside the usual channels of defense contractor procedures, and were shipped to previously unknown addresses in New Jersey and New York state. Politico has investigated these addresses and found only shell companies and warehouses.


If your theory is correct, this is the kind of story that would have been all over - everywhere. I don't recall seeing ANY such reports.

And if you tell me "the media was in on it," I'm gonna write you off as a nut like everybody else in here .... do you want that? DO YOU?

[BroncoBuff]

Particliarly disturbing is this new escalaion in Afghanistan.
About 7 1/2 years too late, Bush was SO soft on bin-Laden, SO soft on terror. And now Obama is having to clean up his mess there, and at this late date there is little international sentiment on our side.

The way to handle bin-Laden would have been a MASSIVE seek-and-destroy mission immediatley, while we held the high moral ground. But now after Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture, etc ... we're just a joke to the world.

[Florida_Bronco]

Is this a man you could take seriously?

http://www.gnosticsecrets.com/images/Marksmile-250-opt.jpg

[DenverBrit]

Snowspot,

Public opinion in the US was strongly against entering WW I -- and WW II. Public opinion had to be railroaded in both cases.

In WW I this was done through a sacrificial offering -- a borderline false flag operation -- the sinking of the Lusitania -

Few people knew at the time the ship was carrying arms and explosives to England. In fact it was the massive explosion of this ordnance that sunk the ship -- not the torpedo that hit it.

The Germans actually tried to post warnings in US newspapers before the Lusitania sailed -- warning Americans not to sail on the ship -- and that it was a target. But the US state department got wind of the ad -- and had it pulled from all newspapers but one in the US.

In short, the US government manipulated events -- to stampede the US public into war fever. After ther Lusitania -- Germans were no longer Germans but had been dehumanized into Huns...

At the time of WW II - same deal. There is a lot of evidence that FDR knew about the coming Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor -- and not only allowed it to happen -- but encouraged it.

The US government falsely blamed two admirals for dereliction of duty -- at Pearl. The admirals were framed and court marshaled -- which is the real reason why Pearl Harbor truly lives in infamy.

Of course, after 9/11 -- as we know -- no one was held accountable. Instead, most of the individuals at key positions were promoted.

That tells it all.


If only we all had your insight. Got any more urban legends for us.
Some of us actually read history in depth, as opposed to 'Conspiracy for Dummies.'

Do you live in a vacuum of idiocy and paranoia where any half truth and rumor becomes fact to support your crazy theories?
Seriously, surely someone close to you has suggested you get counseling.

[mhgaffney]

I know all that ... but it's not a persuasive argument, and here's just one reason why: Planning to pull off such an event would be a colossally complicated undertaking. No way could they pull it off in 9 months. We know Bush only won the election (if at all) in early December ... which would leave them a ridiculously short window. Plus there would have been leaks, if not full-blown whistleblowers. "They" simply could not have put together and set into motion sufficient materials, massive explosives etc, without drawing serious attention.

Contrast that with the mainstream theory (i.e. the truth), that al Qaeda players had been in the states attending flight schools and planning this event for several years.

Which one sounds more plausible? (More PLAUSIBLE, not what you beleive)


You might be surprised -- but I agree. They didn't pull it off in 9 months.

No, the evidence suggests the planning was well underway in 2000 -- and probably long before that. I suggest you check out Peter Lance's fine book TRIPLE CROSS. One of the best books about 9/11. Lance does a good job documenting the links between bin Laden and the 1993 WTC attack -- and the terror cell based in NYC responsible for the murder of Kahane, the racist NY rabbi.

He also does a good job documenting the corruption in the FBI and -- by extension -- the CIA.

Lance convinced me there was an Islamic plot. The problem is-- there is also abundant evidence that the CIA penetrated the plot from the very beginning. Hell, they had been listening to bin Laden's cell phone calls for years. Even after he switched to code-- they easily broke it.

Here's my current take: The conspiracists here in the US piggybacked their own plan onto the bin Laden operation - took control of it - and used it for their own evil ends.

This was a major conspiracy. The perfect crime -- done in broad daylight. And the whole nation (or most of it) bamboozled.

But of course, the powers that be in America have done similar things in the past. They assassinated a standing president in broad daylight in 1963 and got away with it. So why not think BIG? If you own the media -- heck -- you can feed the public any garbage you want.

Buff, you have foolishly underestimated the men who run America behind the scenes. They are smart. They have vast power and resources at their disposal you can't even imagine.

As someone said-- a free press is a great thing -- if you happen to own one.

[Requiem]

Is this a man you could take seriously?

http://www.gnosticsecrets.com/images/Marksmile-250-opt.jpg

No, and neither can most people. Hence why he hasn't gotten a shot a snatch since we left Vietnam.

[Florida_Bronco]

No, and neither can most people. Hence why he hasn't gotten a shot a snatch since we left Vietnam.

ROFL!

[24champ]

Maybe gaffo can find the love he is looking for...


http://meethotjews.com/

[SoCalBronco]

Maybe gaffo can find the love he is looking for...


http://meethotjews.com/

Rep

[BroncoBuff]

Is this a man you could take seriously?

http://www.gnosticsecrets.com/images/Marksmile-250-opt.jpg

Actually, he looks perfectly sensible there.

Looks like a college professor or something, a guy you could really trust ???

[Florida_Bronco]

Actually, he looks perfectly sensible there.

Looks like a college professor or something, a guy you could really trust ???

Funny, I thought he looked like a complete ****ing loon.

[Florida_Bronco]

Rep

x2

[24champ]

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In english the song is called "Gaffo broke my heart" a lullaby by a jew.

[SoCalBronco]

I feel bad for her. I hope you are proud of yourself, Gaff. What a jerk.

[W*GS]

Buff, you have foolishly underestimated the men who run America behind the scenes. They are smart. They have vast power and resources at their disposal you can't even imagine.

They aren't that smart, because you figured out their nefarious plans. Hell, they even published them - PNAC, correct?

Man, you are dumb.

[frerottenextelway]

Evidently Paulson thinks the American people would freak out if they knew how bad the financial situation is.

The "bigger problem" he fears is probably open rebellion of hundreds of millions of angry Americans -- fed up with Wall Street and the fed.

MHG

Paulson reveals US concerns of breakdown in law and order

By Stephen Foley in New York


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/paulson-reveals-us-concerns-of-breakdown-in-law-and-order-1750076.html

Friday, 17 July 2009

The Bush administration and Congress discussed the possibility of a breakdown in law and order and the logistics of feeding US citizens if commerce and banking collapsed as a result of last autumn's financial panic, it was disclosed yesterday.

Making his first appearance on Capitol Hill since leaving office, the former Treasury secretary Hank Paulson said it was important at the time not to reveal the extent of officials' concerns, for fear it would "terrify the American people and lead to an even bigger problem".

Mr Paulson testified to the House Oversight Committee on the Bush administration's unpopular $700bn (£426bn) bailout of Wall Street, which was triggered by the failure of Lehman Brothers last September. In the days that followed, a run on some of the safest investment vehicles in the financial markets threatened to make it impossible for people to access their savings.

Paul Kanjorski, a Pennsylvania Democrat, asked Mr Paulson to reveal details of officials' concerns, which were relayed to Congress in hasty conference calls last year. The calls included discussion of law and order and whether it would be possible to feed the American people, and for how long, according to Mr Kanjorski.

"In a world where information can flow, money can move with the speed of light electronically, I looked at the ripple effect, and looked at when a financial system fails, a whole country's economic system can fail," Mr Paulson said. "I believe we could have gone back to the sorts of situations we saw in the Depression. I try not to use hyperbole. It's impossible to prove now since it didn't happen."

The Oversight committee is investigating the takeover of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, a deal forged in the desperate weekend that Lehman Brothers failed, and which later required government support because of Merrill's spiralling losses.

Mr Paulson defended putting pressure on Bank of America when it had last-minute doubts about the deal in December. Not to have done so could have rekindled the "financial havoc" the bailout had calmed.

Well, d'uh. We had this convo before when you took both sides on if we should've let Lehman go under.

Lehman was a AAA+ rated company, which means money markets were invested in their bonds. When they went under, that brought some money markets below even return - which obviously led to an immediate electronic run on that money - and could've made us a failed state overnight. That is the whole point of why it was necessary to bailout everything else that could've had the same effect.