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Broncojef
07-13-2009, 10:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1C_NWMRs8Q

Hogan11
07-13-2009, 11:04 PM
**** them

Xenos
07-13-2009, 11:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1C_NWMRs8Q
He's not trying to shake their hands.

tsiguy96
07-13-2009, 11:07 PM
he was introducing the other guy.

Dudeskey
07-13-2009, 11:53 PM
http://goddoubleplusblessamerica.org/jest/card-vladimir_putin.jpg

watermock
07-14-2009, 12:21 AM
Putin's an asshole.

He's kin to Bush Sr. KGB/CIA.

It's irlevant. The world knows Obama has no balls, despite tossing 100k into Afghanistan for no reason.

Oh yeah, it's to catch Bin Laden, right?

Dudeskey
07-14-2009, 12:25 AM
Putin's an a-hole.

He's kin to Bush Sr. KGB/CIA.

That goes without saying. The infinite jest cards are satire...

fdf
07-14-2009, 06:26 AM
He's not trying to shake their hands.

This is silly. Obama's obviously introducing people in line to the guy behind him.

oubronco
07-14-2009, 06:54 AM
**** them

****in A

epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2009, 08:50 AM
This is silly. Obama's obviously introducing people in line to the guy behind him.

Maybe the last guy in the line, but the first couple clearly disregard him.

This is yet another tough lesson that Obama will have to learn on the job. You dont go chasing the approval of every scumbag in the world. You deal with them on your terms or they will use you to prop themselves up.

Our media likes to portray him as a universally liked figure, but this is clearly not the case around the world. He still represents "the Great Satan".

Obama would be wise to quit making himself and our nation look like naive children seeking everyones approval. This is also a good lesson for liberals who have that mindset. You absolutely cannot please everyone in life, and this is even truer in politics.

Beantown Bronco
07-14-2009, 08:57 AM
And the German's love David Hasselhoff.

epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2009, 09:07 AM
Obama snubbed in Saudi Arabia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t439ruGCqRw&feature=related

This is downringht embarrassing and evidently is becoming a problem. Especially after the bowing incident.

enjolras
07-14-2009, 09:25 AM
Embarrassing? When the corrupt and authoritarian regimes in Saudia Arabia and Russia snub our guy, then we KNOW we're doing something right (finally).

He's doing the right thing, continuing to engage these countries... but now on our terms. That just pisses them off to no end it seems.

footstepsfrom#27
07-14-2009, 10:29 AM
I read an article on this recently and the general point was that the Russians are so tired of politics and tired of hearing promises from US presidents that they're simply jaded and don't care. I don't think it would matter who it was, they're simply worn out.

Who really cares?

Inkana7
07-14-2009, 10:38 AM
Hey, Medvedev is a Black Sabbath fan. He can't be ALL that bad.

DomCasual
07-14-2009, 10:51 AM
And the German's love David Hasselhoff.

What's that? You said you wanted to see videos of Hasselhoff? WELL, OKAY!

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Inkana7
07-14-2009, 10:54 AM
Maybe the last guy in the line, but the first couple clearly disregard him.

This is yet another tough lesson that Obama will have to learn on the job. You dont go chasing the approval of every scumbag in the world. You deal with them on your terms or they will use you to prop themselves up.

Our media likes to portray him as a universally liked figure, but this is clearly not the case around the world. He still represents "the Great Satan".

Obama would be wise to quit making himself and our nation look like naive children seeking everyones approval. This is also a good lesson for liberals who have that mindset. You absolutely cannot please everyone in life, and this is even truer in politics.

So it's better to piss off and alienate the world, right?

broncocalijohn
07-14-2009, 11:12 AM
Putin's an a-hole.

He's kin to Bush Sr. KGB/CIA.

It's irlevant. The world knows Obama has no balls, despite tossing 100k into Afghanistan for no reason.

Oh yeah, it's to catch Bin Laden, right?

no mr conspiracy theory. Seems some of those "farmers" were growing bad case of peanuts which were imported to USA peanut butter makers. He is looking out for YOU!

fdf
07-14-2009, 11:40 AM
Maybe the last guy in the line, but the first couple clearly disregard him.

This is yet another tough lesson that Obama will have to learn on the job. You dont go chasing the approval of every scumbag in the world. You deal with them on your terms or they will use you to prop themselves up.

Our media likes to portray him as a universally liked figure, but this is clearly not the case around the world. He still represents "the Great Satan".

Obama would be wise to quit making himself and our nation look like naive children seeking everyones approval. This is also a good lesson for liberals who have that mindset. You absolutely cannot please everyone in life, and this is even truer in politics.

I think the guy is a terrible president. I agree he shouldn't be spooning the Iranians, Chavez and Zelaya (Hondurus). That said, I don't think this video shows what folks are claiming about it. At best, it's ambiguous on the first couple of guys.

epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2009, 11:51 AM
I think the guy is a terrible president. I agree he shouldn't be spooning the Iranians, Chavez and Zelaya (Hondurus). That said, I don't think this video shows what folks are claiming about it. At best, it's ambiguous on the first couple of guys.

Whats embarrassing is that Obama doesnt know one way or the other. He's holding his hand out there like he's unsure of whether or not they are going to shake it. Its the same situation in the Saudi video.

epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2009, 11:54 AM
So it's better to piss off and alienate the world, right?


It's better to understand world politics. Clearly Obama is a rookie in that arena. Especially when he's letting the scum of the earth walk over him to make themselves look more powerful.

epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2009, 11:57 AM
Embarrassing? When the corrupt and authoritarian regimes in Saudia Arabia and Russia snub our guy, then we KNOW we're doing something right (finally).

He's doing the right thing, continuing to engage these countries... but now on our terms. That just pisses them off to no end it seems.

We have always engaged them on our terms, especially after the precedent that Reagan set when he closed out the Cold War.

Obama is chasing them like a puppy wanting attention. There is no way that that makes our country look more appealing at all to those countries. On the contrary, it reaffiirms their resolve in doing what it takes to make Americas world power diminish. That's when things really get dangerous.

Instead of operating from strength, Obama is operating from weakness and timidity.

Obama is turning into Carter.

Tombstone RJ
07-14-2009, 12:25 PM
I read an article on this recently and the general point was that the Russians are so tired of politics and tired of hearing promises from US presidents that they're simply jaded and don't care. I don't think it would matter who it was, they're simply worn out.

Who really cares?

Well, we should care for one.

It's a sign of respect and the fact that the Russians and the Saudis are not extending their hands to the most powerful man in the world IMHO is not a good sign.

People on the left were saying that Bush had isolated the US and that his foreign policies were not respected by many countries around the world. However, I bet they were smart enough to shake Bush's hand if he was offering his hand.

I actually feel bad for Obama. His restraint is impressive, especially with the Russians. You can see it in his face that he's perplexed by the dissrespect. The media soooo wants to paint Obama as a world diplomat representing the United State's best interest. What the US media refuses to accept is that simply because they like him, that does not mean the rest of the world is going to like him.

24champ
07-14-2009, 02:09 PM
Obama is turning into Carter.

Little bit Clintonesque as well...

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/worldnews/pp_20090709_day_in_photos/photo25.jpg

Irish Stout
07-14-2009, 02:17 PM
Commie Pinko bastards! I don't see there flag on the moon.

Pseudofool
07-14-2009, 02:32 PM
You absolutely cannot please everyone in life, and this is even truer in politics.Wow, you're genius! You should think about being a writer! You have such great new ideas! I'm sure Obama never even thought of that!

Ha!

Pseudofool
07-14-2009, 02:36 PM
Little bit Clintonesque as well...

http://www.nypost.com/photos/galleries/news/worldnews/pp_20090709_day_in_photos/photo25.jpgIf you see the video of it (too lazy to look for it); Obama's actually looking behind him for the hand of the woman about to step down--he grabs it like a second later to help her from the step.

It's a funny pic because of the face Sarkoozy (sp?) is making.

epicSocialism4tw
07-14-2009, 02:40 PM
Wow, you're genius! You should think about being a writer! You have such great new ideas! I'm sure Obama never even thought of that!

It doesnt look like Obama has thought of much. He definitely didnt realize that those putzes were going to use those occasion to make him look like an idiot in front of the entire world. Thanks for being an embarrassment to the US, Obama!

You didnt think of much either, because if you did, you would have realized that your post makes you look like someone who is affected enough by the fact that his little pet politician has been made to look like a second-rate community organizer in front of the world that you have to resort to pointless statements like the one you just made to try to change the subject.

I'm sure you'll go back to pray at your shrine-o-Barack no matter how stupid he makes himself and his country look, so it doesnt matter anyway. Barack could be selling the US to Venezuela and you'd be championing it as "change".

JJJ
07-14-2009, 03:00 PM
Pretty clear to me Obama is introducing the Ruskie to his own people.

Sarkozy copping on the Brazilian babe is classic though. :rofl:

NYBronco
07-14-2009, 03:51 PM
If you see the video of it (too lazy to look for it); Obama's actually looking behind him for the hand of the woman about to step down--he grabs it like a second later to help her from the step.

It's a funny pic because of the face Sarkoozy (sp?) is making.

Agree... Obama is looking out for the woman behind him and the step she is about to take before her. The video is a must see.

But by now we should know that all news presented should be followed up by additional sources even if it means going into the opposing views "camp".

BreesLightning
07-15-2009, 04:13 PM
Ha Ha Mcskillet you're an idiot. That first video he is clearly introducing his staff. How you can say anything else is happening in there is ridiculous.

I will also assume the same thing is happening in the Saudi video. Since when are Saudi diplomats white or women for that matter? You can also see Obama leaning a bit and talking to the Saudi King as he is introducing each of his staff to him.

I swear, you right wing kooks will come up with anything to excuse the last 8 years of havoc and ruin you caused this country.

Spider
07-15-2009, 04:23 PM
:rofl: I see the whos who of Bedwetters and Drama queens are all here ......

footstepsfrom#27
07-15-2009, 05:05 PM
Well, we should care for one.

It's a sign of respect and the fact that the Russians and the Saudis are not extending their hands to the most powerful man in the world IMHO is not a good sign.

People on the left were saying that Bush had isolated the US and that his foreign policies were not respected by many countries around the world. However, I bet they were smart enough to shake Bush's hand if he was offering his hand
I was referencing the article i read which noted that the Russian people are burned out on politics. Hence..."who cares?" has little to do with that. In any case...this looks like it's pretty over blown. Fact is...the Ruskies don't know what to make of a black dude being president of a country they've always heard was racist. Younger people over there seem more interested...a predictable response I would say.

footstepsfrom#27
07-15-2009, 05:11 PM
It doesnt look like Obama has thought of much. He definitely didnt realize that those putzes were going to use those occasion to make him look like an idiot in front of the entire world. Thanks for being an embarrassment to the US, Obama!

You didnt think of much either, because if you did, you would have realized that your post makes you look like someone who is affected enough by the fact that his little pet politician has been made to look like a second-rate community organizer in front of the world that you have to resort to pointless statements like the one you just made to try to change the subject.

I'm sure you'll go back to pray at your shrine-o-Barack no matter how stupid he makes himself and his country look, so it doesnt matter anyway. Barack could be selling the US to Venezuela and you'd be championing it as "change".
Well he hasn't been getting blow jobs in the oval office or destroyed an American city yet, much less launched an illegal war based on a lie so I guess he's ahead of the standard set by his predecessors eh?

You've pretty much lost your mind.

epicSocialism4tw
07-15-2009, 09:30 PM
Well he hasn't been getting blow jobs in the oval office or destroyed an American city yet, much less launched an illegal war based on a lie so I guess he's ahead of the standard set by his predecessors eh?

You've pretty much lost your mind.

Nah. He has only increased the national deficit to levels it has never even approached in the history of the country. Not to mention his mishandling of nearly everything involved with the presidency. He has done pretty well reading a teleprompter though, so he has that going for him.

Archer81
07-15-2009, 09:34 PM
Well he hasn't been getting blow jobs in the oval office or destroyed an American city yet, much less launched an illegal war based on a lie so I guess he's ahead of the standard set by his predecessors eh?

You've pretty much lost your mind.


Odd...congress approved both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq...using the SAME intelligence Clinton used to justify bombing Iraq in 1998...wierd.


:Broncos:

footstepsfrom#27
07-15-2009, 09:41 PM
Nah. He has only increased the national deficit to levels it has never even approached in the history of the country. Not to mention his mishandling of nearly everything involved with the presidency. He has done pretty well reading a teleprompter though, so he has that going for him.
Yeah the need to bail out all these banks and corporations and restart this economy was his doing...oh wait...I guess not.

I'm sure you saying he's misshandled the Presidency makes it true though since we've already established you merely repeat what you hear in press releases and sound bites instead of reading or researching things on your own.

Kind of makes your teleprompter crack ironic huh?

epicSocialism4tw
07-15-2009, 09:55 PM
Yeah the need to bail out all these banks and corporations and restart this economy was his doing...oh wait...I guess not.

I'm sure you saying he's misshandled the Presidency makes it true though since we've already established you merely repeat what you hear in press releases and sound bites instead of reading or researching things on your own.

Kind of makes your teleprompter crack ironic huh?

Get over it dude.

You just cant handle it when someone is honest about your little cute pet Obama.

JJJ
07-15-2009, 10:01 PM
:rofl: I see the whos who of Bedwetters and Drama queens are all here ......

As well as the cheerleaders of Freeloader Nation.

Spider
07-15-2009, 10:27 PM
As well as the cheerleaders of Freeloader Nation.

LOL , dont count yourself in as a bedwetter or a Drama queen , you are below them .......... Scum sucking Charger fan , hell little difference in Charger fan and raider fan ....... try not to think to much of yourself , you are not worthy

Spider
07-15-2009, 10:28 PM
Odd...congress approved both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq...using the SAME intelligence Clinton used to justify bombing Iraq in 1998...wierd.


:Broncos:

but lied his ass off to sell it Clinton was honest

24champ
07-15-2009, 10:37 PM
Odd...congress approved both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq...using the SAME intelligence Clinton used to justify bombing Iraq in 1998...wierd.


:Broncos:

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JJJ
07-15-2009, 11:28 PM
LOL , dont count yourself in as a bedwetter or a Drama queen , you are below them .......... Scum sucking Charger fan , hell little difference in Charger fan and raider fan ....... try not to think to much of yourself , you are not worthy

:rofl:

footstepsfrom#27
07-15-2009, 11:33 PM
Get over it dude.

You just cant handle it when someone is honest about your little cute pet Obama.
Is that from Rush or Fox?

http://media.nowpublic.net/images//e3/0/e30fff41e2e8a56c9deaffb13c924968.jpg

Pseudofool
07-15-2009, 11:48 PM
As well as the cheerleaders of Freeloader Nation.
This sentiment in particular strikes me as not only tone deaf, but modern-day evil. To believe that any set of people strive for laziness to live the "high life" off welfare is just patently idiotic. (It is miserable to be dependent on gov't for your sustance!)

There's simply not enough low-skilled labor jobs to support a population that propagates low-skilled people (Heck, I'm sure you were against helping out GM, ignoring the bigger picture once big manufacturers leave, they are gone FOREVER). There's going to be lots of unemployment, and unless you are willing to eat these people, we have to support them.

I mean have you thought through the alternative, do you really want our streets filled with derelict people?

Turn off the radio and actually interact with some human beings, and you'll find that eveyone works hard (save a very small few) and desparately just want to earn their keep.

If this line of belief isn't evil, I don't know what is. (That's exactly why these people disguise themselves in the cloak of religion; it doesn't matter if you go to church every sunday--I mean how moral is saving only your own soul).

Pseudofool
07-15-2009, 11:58 PM
Get over it dude.

You just cant handle it when someone is honest about your little cute pet Obama.Seriously, I'm not sure which humans you associate with, but you are out of touch. You speak in cliches reguraly; your arguments aren't based on fact, but rather appeal to your basic ideology.

I get that conservatives don't like a liberal president; but tough! You guys lost, and had eight years of far right rule and drove our country into the ditch in evey conceivable way.

No doubt, you'll get some morons to rally you around you, but at some point you must realize that people who support you aren't very smart, show no insight, and have very little facts at the figner tips.

At what point does failure so prominently rear its head that you begin to question your own beliefs; can you? Is there any point at which you'd admit you were wrong? (I hope even you can admit that the past eight years were abject failure.)

footstepsfrom#27
07-16-2009, 12:04 AM
Seriously, I'm not sure which humans you associate with, but you are out of touch. You speak in cliches reguraly; your arguments aren't based on fact, but rather appeal to your basic ideology.

I get that conservatives don't like a liberal president; but tough! You guys lost, and had eight years of far right rule and drove our country into the ditch in evey conceivable way.

No doubt, you'll get some morons to rally you around you, but at some point you must realize that people who support you aren't very smart, show no insight, and have very little facts at the figner tips.

At what point does failure so prominently rear its head that you begin to question your own beliefs; can you? Is there any point at which you'd admit you were wrong? (I hope even you can admit that the past eight years were abject failure.)
Recent pix of Drama Llama posting Fox news quotes on the OM...

http://static.flickr.com/37/96775850_52e37156f1_o.jpg

footstepsfrom#27
07-16-2009, 12:08 AM
...Followed by the expected result;

http://www.llamasetc.com/llama_Bean_logo.jpg

footstepsfrom#27
07-16-2009, 12:26 AM
How he perceives things... ;D

http://www.deviantart.com/download/46779786/Ninja_Llama_by__SilverTalion_by_llama_club.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-16-2009, 02:19 AM
I swear, you right wing kooks will come up with anything to excuse the last 8 years of havoc and ruin you caused this country.

Ding ding ding! :yep:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-16-2009, 02:23 AM
sirhcyennek81[/B]]Odd...congress approved both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq...using the SAME intelligence Clinton used to justify bombing Iraq in 1998...wierd.

:stupid:

You left out the part about how Al Gore invented the Internet. :mullet2:

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 09:35 AM
Recent pix of Drama Llama posting Fox news quotes on the OM...

Keep deflecting.

You and your fellow Obama sheep are fawning like smitten children over a politician while he empties your wallets and uses it to pay for abortions in Africa.

Wake up.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 09:42 AM
Keep deflecting.

You and your fellow Obama sheep are fawning like smitten children over a politician while he empties your wallets and uses it to pay for abortions in Africa.

Wake up.Really that's what he's doing with my money! Wow, I had no idea! Again, you should be a writer! You have such insight! And you're a great fact-based reporter too! Exposing all these secret plans!

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 09:55 AM
Really that's what he's doing with my money! Wow, I had no idea! Again, you should be a writer! You have such insight! And you're a great fact-based reporter too! Exposing all these secret plans!

:spit:

He introduced the overseas abortion funding with the stimulus package. Nothing secret about it.

Way to go, clown. Your unyeilding adulation has made you a tool. Well...actually now that I think about it...its not your adulation that has made you a tool...its your gene pool.

Wake up.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 10:32 AM
:spit:

He introduced the overseas abortion funding with the stimulus package. Nothing secret about it.

Way to go, clown. Your unyeilding adulation has made you a tool. Well...actually now that I think about it...its not your adulation that has made you a tool...its your gene pool.

Wake up.The substance of your posts is awe-inspiring. Seriously, I'd like to see a link (that doesn't come from a rightie site) that points to the abortion funding in the stimulus package.

Are you one of those 9/11 conspiracy theorist too?

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 10:48 AM
The substance of your posts is awe-inspiring. Seriously, I'd like to see a link (that doesn't come from a rightie site) that points to the abortion funding in the stimulus package.

Are you one of those 9/11 conspiracy theorist too?

Google it, you lazy turd. I'm not to blame for your lack of awareness on this issue.

You may be surprised at what can happen when you do your own research! You actually can educate yourself instead of asking other people to do the work for you!

Who woulda thunk it?

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 11:10 AM
Google it, you lazy turd. I'm not to blame for your lack of awareness on this issue.

You may be surprised at what can happen when you do your own research! You actually can educate yourself instead of asking other people to do the work for you!

Who woulda thunk it?I did, of course. I found nothing, nadda, zip on stimulus money being used for foreign abortions. I doubt you will find anything substantial.

Of course, what you probably mean is that Obama lifted a ban that denied funding to organizations that perform abortions or give information about them (link here: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/01/24/obama-reverses-abortionfunds-policy.html). That had NOTHING to do with the Stimulus Package. And Obama marked no new funds for abortions (as you suggest); rather returned our policy to what it was before Bush came to office.

/Bitchslap

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 11:59 AM
/b****slap

Are you slapping yourself out of your own laziness?

Obama funds overseas abortions. At least you learned that much.

footstepsfrom#27
07-16-2009, 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by McSkillet
Google it, you lazy turd. I'm not to blame for your lack of awareness on this issue.

You may be surprised at what can happen when you do your own research! You actually can educate yourself instead of asking other people to do the work for you!

Who woulda thunk it?

I did, of course. I found nothing, nadda, zip on stimulus money being used for foreign abortions. I doubt you will find anything substantial.

Of course, what you probably mean is that Obama lifted a ban that denied funding to organizations that perform abortions or give information about them (link here: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/01/24/obama-reverses-abortionfunds-policy.html). That had NOTHING to do with the Stimulus Package. And Obama marked no new funds for abortions (as you suggest); rather returned our policy to what it was before Bush came to office.

/b****slap
How astounding that McDrama would stoop to calling anyone else "lazy" and preach about doing research and learning something on your own instead of mouthing other's opinions. Especially since that's mostly all he does. If you want a first class example check the WRP thread on Sotomayor HE STARTED where he was challenged by me to actually read the Supreme Court case he was blathering about ignorantly. He declined to do so even though given ample time, and decided to flee the thread in disgrace instead.

This issue is another example. You are correct...he's referring to the legislation originally introduced in the Reagan administration...every administration since has either repealed it or re-instated it along party lines depending on who controlled the White House. So Obama did not introduce the law, nor did he do what McDrama says he did. The so called "Mexico City Policy"...named for its introduction in 1984 by Reagan at the International Conference on Population in Mexico City is a rule basically stateing that no NGO that receives US federal assistance can either perform or "promote" abortion..."promotion" including a long list of possible things including using doctors in their facilities that perform abortions elsewhere.

I will mention here that I am decidedly pro life and I believe life begins at conception, but I also support intelligent decisions rather than broad brush political stupidity meant to satisify a constituency for votes, which is where most of the pro life movement has failed.

What McDrama isn't telling you...probably because he doesn't know about it...is that the policy has had major damaging impact on all kinds of other non-abortion issues, most notably, the availability of contraceptives provided free of charge to poor people in Africa where they have the highest incidence of AIDS transmission in the world. Some places in Africa...Lesotho for example...have an HIV infection rate approaching 30% of the population. Condoms are traditionally viewed with culturally prejudiced rejection by many people in African countries, especially where education is lacking. NGO's providing them free of charge with US aid has in many cases been the only access people had to a simple tool necessary to avoid the transmission of the virus, and thus a death sentence to many people. This is really a classic example of the US trying to moralize to other countries but more importantly, coming in without any concept of how our politics impacts other nations cultures and often does more damage than good.

Access to birth control is not the only unintended consequence either, as many other health care services have been cut due to the policy. On top of this, pregnancies and unintended abortions have risen in some countries do to a lack of free contraceptives. By tying financially vital assistance with compliance to a US domestic political opinion that is not even legally enforced in the US (since abortions are legal here) the Reagan, Bush 41 and GWB administrations all forced developing nations to suffer the consequences of non-compliance with this controversial US political issue. That impact extended not only to abortion but even spilled over to human sexuality in the area of abstinence education favored by the GOP. The Mexico City Gag Rule has effectively limited NGO's from not only using federal money for abortions and unwittingly helped spread the AIDS virus to more people in Africa...but probably in other developing nations as well. The European Union was so disturbed by this policy the EU Parliamentary Forum on Population and Development presented the Bush administration with a signed petition by 233 members asking that it be repealed. You can read some mixed opinions of African commentators here: http://allafrica.com/stories/200902050768.html Most are positive on Obama removing the prior restriction.

The thing to remember about McDrama Lama is that he rarely knows what he's talking about from first hand knowledge but likes to parrot the latest media sound bites from Fox News or Rush. Usually you can run a simple Google scan and find the true story and what he's left out. In this case I was already aware of this issue but most of what I posted here can be found easily...by someone willing to "educate themselves instead of asking other people to do their work for them."

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Cool. I get a whole 6 paragraphs!

Inkana7
07-16-2009, 01:45 PM
Cool. I get a whole 6 paragraphs!

Impressive retort. At least you didn't simply dissapear from this one. That's gotta count for something.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 02:41 PM
Obama funds overseas abortions. If we set you to music, you'd be a jingle.

Hogan11
07-16-2009, 03:49 PM
****in A

I would've said that whether they were dissing the Big O or not

JJJ
07-16-2009, 04:04 PM
This sentiment in particular strikes me as not only tone deaf, but modern-day evil. To believe that any set of people strive for laziness to live the "high life" off welfare is just patently idiotic. (It is miserable to be dependent on gov't for your sustance!)

There's simply not enough low-skilled labor jobs to support a population that propagates low-skilled people (Heck, I'm sure you were against helping out GM, ignoring the bigger picture once big manufacturers leave, they are gone FOREVER). There's going to be lots of unemployment, and unless you are willing to eat these people, we have to support them.

I mean have you thought through the alternative, do you really want our streets filled with derelict people?

Turn off the radio and actually interact with some human beings, and you'll find that eveyone works hard (save a very small few) and desparately just want to earn their keep.

If this line of belief isn't evil, I don't know what is. (That's exactly why these people disguise themselves in the cloak of religion; it doesn't matter if you go to church every sunday--I mean how moral is saving only your own soul).

This is sarcasm right?

Mr. Elway
07-16-2009, 04:14 PM
So the theory is that the Russians in the video refuse to shake Obama's hand but are OK shaking the hand of the American ambassador he is introducing?

It's amazing how people's ability to think clearly is retarded by their need to take political sides.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 04:23 PM
This is sarcasm right?Nope. Morality is defined by what you do for the weak; not what you do for your own soul. At least in my book.

JJJ
07-16-2009, 04:25 PM
So the theory is that the Russians in the video refuse to shake Obama's hand but are OK shaking the hand of the American ambassador he is introducing?

It's amazing how people's ability to think clearly is retarded by their need to take political sides.

Obama is introducing the Russian President Medvedev to his own staff. This is pretty clear. No snub.

JJJ
07-16-2009, 04:36 PM
Nope. Morality is defined by what you do for the weak; not what you do for your own soul. At least in my book.

You mean like unborn babies?

footstepsfrom#27
07-16-2009, 05:15 PM
Impressive retort. At least you didn't simply dissapear from this one. That's gotta count for something.
I guess we need to set the bar pretty low here.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 06:16 PM
You mean like unborn babies?You're right. We should care about them while in the womb; after that they are on they're own.

At least I can make a scientific argument about abortion; I doubt you can make the same about your dismissal of actually needy humans (adult or otherwise).

(How many unwanted children have you adopted btw?)

JJJ
07-16-2009, 10:00 PM
You're right. We should care about them while in the womb; after that they are on they're own.

At least I can make a scientific argument about abortion; I doubt you can make the same about your dismissal of actually needy humans (adult or otherwise).

(How many unwanted children have you adopted btw?)

I would expect their parents to take care of them until they are 18, thats called personal responsibility.

When they get to 18 I expect them to take care of themselves. This is called the same thing.

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 10:15 PM
You're right. We should care about them while in the womb; after that they are on they're own.

At least I can make a scientific argument about abortion; I doubt you can make the same about your dismissal of actually needy humans (adult or otherwise).

(How many unwanted children have you adopted btw?)

You can misuse biological arguments and misrepresent developmental biology all you want, and that may work on high school kids, but the truth is alot scarier than you know.

epicSocialism4tw
07-16-2009, 10:18 PM
Impressive retort. At least you didn't simply dissapear from this one. That's gotta count for something.

Its good to know that you faithfully read my posts.

In fact, its kind of fun being the guy here who gets all of the Obama sheep in a tizzy.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 11:09 PM
I would expect their parents to take care of them until they are 18, thats called personal responsibility.

When they get to 18 I expect them to take care of themselves. This is called the same thing.You're a fool if you expect the poor and derelict to magically know how to care for their children and not to continue the cycle of depravity.

Requiem
07-16-2009, 11:10 PM
I like Obama too. Second black President. Clinton was the first.

Pseudofool
07-16-2009, 11:12 PM
You can misuse biological arguments and misrepresent developmental biology all you want, and that may work on high school kids, but the truth is alot scarier than you know.Well as long as the stimulus is going to fund oversea abortions I guess we're all in trouble, right?

Look, the moral choice that someone makes about whether the can raise children is between them and their god. I'm tired of the moral righteousness from people who care more for potential humans than actual humans. As if the saving soul of a no-year old is less important than an 18 year old.

BroncoInferno
07-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Maybe the last guy in the line, but the first couple clearly disregard him.

This is yet another tough lesson that Obama will have to learn on the job. You dont go chasing the approval of every scumbag in the world. You deal with them on your terms or they will use you to prop themselves up.

Our media likes to portray him as a universally liked figure, but this is clearly not the case around the world. He still represents "the Great Satan".

Obama would be wise to quit making himself and our nation look like naive children seeking everyones approval. This is also a good lesson for liberals who have that mindset. You absolutely cannot please everyone in life, and this is even truer in politics.

You gotta love nincompoops like llama. Saying Obama is naive about world politics, implicitly implying that he is some kind of geopolitical expert with superior background and gravitas to Obama. And just what are your foreign relations credentials, angry?

JJJ
07-17-2009, 10:45 AM
Well as long as the stimulus is going to fund oversea abortions I guess we're all in trouble, right?

Look, the moral choice that someone makes about whether the can raise children is between them and their god. I'm tired of the moral righteousness from people who care more for potential humans than actual humans. As if the saving soul of a no-year old is less important than an 18 year old.

Ironic that you condone over 1m potential lives being terminated annually for no medical reason yet I am called the evil doer for thinking that expecting personal responsibility from adults is the proper platform from which to build our policies.

If you are poor or hit hard times you should turn to your family for support. If you have no family turn to your friends. If you have no friends suck it up and figure out how to get by on your own. The government should protect you from outside attackers, provide some support for those incapable of working, and build a little infrastructure and that is about it. They can also rely on the private donations to charities from good people like yourself who have a keen interest in helping others.