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SoDak Bronco
07-11-2009, 06:26 PM
Anyone watching this figh tonight?? Who you got? Anyone have a good site to watch it online?? What time is it starting?? Thanks..

I played against Brock Lesnars cousin in the state championship football game my senior year, and the kid ran for 185 yards, we lost a heartbreaker, 15-14 after leading the whole game. Still pisses me off to this day.

Spider
07-11-2009, 06:40 PM
http://www.justin.tv/directory?category=sports

SouthStndJunkie
07-11-2009, 07:05 PM
I have a few buds over and we ordered it.

SouthStndJunkie
07-11-2009, 07:08 PM
Go Brock Lesnar.

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 07:23 PM
I have a few buds over and we ordered it.

Hope it is a good fight not a buck a second kind of thing. Also going for Brock.

SouthStndJunkie
07-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Dan Henderson ****ed Michael Bisping up!

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 08:08 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/2-gunz-up-clan-matches

CHANGSTER
07-11-2009, 08:11 PM
http://gobabby.net/80.htm

Someone linked it up from justintv. Seems good as of now.

Killericon
07-11-2009, 08:15 PM
Go GSP! Canadian Pride!

Broncobiv
07-11-2009, 08:27 PM
I had a justin.tv working stream but it died. Any other ones working at this moment?

CHANGSTER
07-11-2009, 08:29 PM
http://www.justin.tv/newalawy2

Looks real good

SouthStndJunkie
07-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Georges St-Pierre is a bad ass.

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 08:40 PM
GSP is so fun to watch!

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 08:42 PM
Damn it feed lost

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Damn it feed lost

Post # 8 link is working for me

Broncobiv
07-11-2009, 08:50 PM
http://gobabby.net/80.htm

Someone linked it up from justintv. Seems good as of now.

Yep, this one is working (for now).

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 08:52 PM
Not getting it on my end.

Broncobiv
07-11-2009, 08:56 PM
Just died.

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 08:59 PM
Yep, this one is working (for now).

It's not working

Broncobiv
07-11-2009, 09:02 PM
Working:

http://wrestlingsports.webs.com/ch1.htm

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 09:04 PM
Working:

http://wrestlingsports.webs.com/ch1.htm

Thanks Biv

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:16 PM
This one is working too:

http://www.justin.tv/movieman2008

Broncosfreak_56
07-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Damn, Lesnar was getting a lot of shots in there.

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:17 PM
That looked like two virgins trying to have sex. Boring

Broncosfreak_56
07-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Lesnar wins! WOW that guy is strong.

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Brock kicks Mirs ass

Arkansas Bronco
07-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Ive seen hard shots and damn brock laid some.

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Wow Brock took round 2 and just pounded Mir! Man those face punches were just brutal

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Man Mir may have whip lash from those blows!

Popps
07-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Not much of a fight.

Popps
07-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Nice double-flip by Lesnar, though.

Malcontent
07-11-2009, 09:22 PM
Lesnar is a creep, but can whoop ass!!

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:23 PM
Wow Lesnar is a total Douche. What a punk

Popps
07-11-2009, 09:24 PM
What a ****in' hick. LOL

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Fedor vs Lesnar

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:26 PM
I may even get on top of my wife tonight. Isn't he married to Sable? A wrestler chick with a dick!

Tom H.
07-11-2009, 09:26 PM
Thanks for the feed Biv.

Rulon Velvet Jones
07-11-2009, 09:26 PM
Holy ****, Lesnar's married to Sable? AWESOME!

Mir's face looks terrible. My theory is he lost because of his perm.

Lesnar is just incredible. He has just enough technique to overcome guys that have been doing this longer than him. Couple that with his size/strength and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone that can take him.

All in all - a ****ing BEATDOWN, son.

Popps
07-11-2009, 09:27 PM
I don't watch this crap much. Just happened to be home tonight.

Was Mir the best possible challenger to this goof?

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:28 PM
Mir beat Lesnar before. This was like a unification fight in Boxing. Now Lesnar is undisputed Heavyweight champ.

TDmvp
07-11-2009, 09:34 PM
I guess it wasn't Mir's belt LOL ...

SouthStndJunkie
07-11-2009, 09:37 PM
Lesnar beat him down.

Go ahead and run your mouth now, Muir.

Punisher
07-11-2009, 09:37 PM
Lesnar found himself a sport to make some real money,I seem to wonder would he be in UFC if he made it in the NFL as a Viking

Popps
07-11-2009, 09:38 PM
Mir beat Lesnar before. This was like a unification fight in Boxing. Now Lesnar is undisputed Heavyweight champ.

But, I mean... is there anyone else that can contend?

I don't know what I'm watching, but if this were boxing... Mir looked like a tomato can. It was never even close.

Lesnar looks roided out. They supposedly test, though... so I guess not.

PaintballCLE
07-11-2009, 09:51 PM
But, I mean... is there anyone else that can contend?

I don't know what I'm watching, but if this were boxing... Mir looked like a tomato can. It was never even close.

Lesnar looks roided out. They supposedly test, though... so I guess not.

hes listed at 260 now........he used to be almost 80 lbs heavier when he was in the WWE.........he was really roided then.

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 09:52 PM
He is just a big guy but UFC makes sure their product is legit and really tests. They don't want to be associated with fake ass WWE wrestling.

Right now Lesnar stands on top I am not sure who can challenge him.

PaintballCLE
07-11-2009, 09:53 PM
But, I mean... is there anyone else that can contend?

I don't know what I'm watching, but if this were boxing... Mir looked like a tomato can. It was never even close.

Lesnar looks roided out. They supposedly test, though... so I guess not.

NOWhttp://beat.bodoglife.com/wp-content/uploads/Brock%20Lesnar%20-%202.jpg


WWEhttp://www.mcstylin.com/wwecharacters/hallofchamps/BROC.jpg

Baba Booey
07-11-2009, 09:57 PM
That looked like two virgins trying to have sex. Boring

I lol'd

slyinky
07-11-2009, 10:05 PM
He is just a big guy but UFC makes sure their product is legit and really tests. They don't want to be associated with fake ass WWE wrestling.

Right now Lesnar stands on top I am not sure who can challenge him.

http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/fedor.jpg

Fedor would do more than just challenge him...

Broncoman13
07-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Fedor vs Lesnar

One can hope, but I doubt it happens unless Lesnar gets paid big bucks. He is a class A prick. Too bad the Heavyweight division is so under-talented. Fedor probably couldn't beat him, but it would be the only fight worth watching. There is a local dude from here in Denver that is up and coming, he knocked out Gonzaga recently, but I don't think he could hang with Brock "I got a giant Dick tatoo'd on my chest" Lesnar.

Loved that Dan Henderson knocked out Bisping. Could have done without the extra punch at the end, but oh well... the result was worthwhile.

theAPAOps5
07-11-2009, 10:10 PM
Oh man I forgot about Fedor that will be a great fight!

Broncoman13
07-11-2009, 10:12 PM
http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/fedor.jpg

Fedor would do more than just challenge him...


I don't think he could beat Lesnar... but it would be a fight that I would buy. Probably the only fight with Lesnar on the card that I will purchase after he proved what a douche bag he really is tonight. After the last fight vs Couture he was talking about "praise god" and "thank you for this opportunity". Tonight it was, "I'm gonna have a COORS LIGHT... b/c Bud Light won't pay me ****", and "I might even get on top of my wife tonight." He's a fake and why anybody would like that guy is beyond me.???

Broncoman13
07-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Oh man I forgot about Fedor that will be a great fight!

Fedor wants big money and judging by Lesnar's comments tonight, he is pretty money hungry as well. Like I said, I'd buy the fight but I doubt it will happen. More likely, we will see Lesnar fight Shane Carwin or Cain Velasquez.

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 10:16 PM
The real Clubber Lang Brett Rogers can beat both

PaintballCLE
07-11-2009, 10:17 PM
The real Clubber Lang Brett Rogers can beat both

PPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Rocket 7
07-11-2009, 10:19 PM
PPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Can expect? Question answered!!

Broncoman13
07-11-2009, 10:19 PM
Anybody watched Shane Carwin fight yet? Very raw, but he has some tremendous power and could move into title contender position with another key win or two. I think he and Valesquez will fight soon (or should anyhow) and that will help to determine who get the next shot. Fedor/Lesnar is a pipe dream.

Spider
07-11-2009, 10:26 PM
But, I mean... is there anyone else that can contend?

I don't know what I'm watching, but if this were boxing... Mir looked like a tomato can. It was never even close.

Lesnar looks roided out. They supposedly test, though... so I guess not.
designer roids , they cant be detected normal by normal testing ...... most common one is HGH , it is hard cause it has alot of the same properties as your body's own growth hormones .........Stallone was caught with them at an air port

slyinky
07-11-2009, 10:28 PM
I don't think he could beat Lesnar... but it would be a fight that I would buy. Probably the only fight with Lesnar on the card that I will purchase after he proved what a douche bag he really is tonight. After the last fight vs Couture he was talking about "praise god" and "thank you for this opportunity". Tonight it was, "I'm gonna have a COORS LIGHT... b/c Bud Light won't pay me ****", and "I might even get on top of my wife tonight." He's a fake and why anybody would like that guy is beyond me.???

Really? Personally, I give Lesnar very little chance of winning. To me Fedor is a class above and I could see him winning by submission very early in the fight.

Boobs McGee
07-11-2009, 11:01 PM
After seeing brock fight, I really don't think he'd have a snowball's chance in hell against fedor.

I've seen him take multiple shots from a 7 foot giant, then come right back and submit.

Don't see that fight (although it would never happen, and NOT because of Fedor's camp...it's Dana White's stupid ass) getting past the second. You wanna talk about a man with an iron chin, cement block fists, and one of the best submission games around, Fedor is undeniably the best heavyweight in the world.

Brock's big, hits hard, but his ground game is lacking. And don't give me any of that "oh, he's a former NCAA champ college wrestler" bs either, cause it was the same thing. His size outmatched his competition.

Fedor on his back in that same situation as Mir tonight, ends up with lesnar tapping.

Sad it's never gonna happen though.

Boobs McGee
07-11-2009, 11:03 PM
and p.s. I've neve liked brock (anybody who gets a title shot after three fights means your sport is whacksauce), but after tonight's post fight interview I was laughin my ass off. He seems like a pretty down to earth guy.

I'm gonna drink a coors light... HA! Sit down with the fam, then maybe get on top of my wife tonight! LOL

slyinky
07-11-2009, 11:28 PM
Round 1
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Round 2
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Los Broncos
07-11-2009, 11:56 PM
I watched it here at home, Lesnar looked focused and I thought he would come out with a tackle and just unload.

He played it perfect with his strength and size.

Rocket 7
07-12-2009, 12:00 AM
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cutthemdown
07-12-2009, 12:17 AM
He is just a big guy but UFC makes sure their product is legit and really tests. They don't want to be associated with fake ass WWE wrestling.

Right now Lesnar stands on top I am not sure who can challenge him.

How many guys have tested positive?

Spider
07-12-2009, 12:22 AM
After seeing brock fight, I really don't think he'd have a snowball's chance in hell against fedor.

I've seen him take multiple shots from a 7 foot giant, then come right back and submit.

Don't see that fight (although it would never happen, and NOT because of Fedor's camp...it's Dana White's stupid ass) getting past the second. You wanna talk about a man with an iron chin, cement block fists, and one of the best submission games around, Fedor is undeniably the best heavyweight in the world.

Brock's big, hits hard, but his ground game is lacking. And don't give me any of that "oh, he's a former NCAA champ college wrestler" bs either, cause it was the same thing. His size outmatched his competition.

Fedor on his back in that same situation as Mir tonight, ends up with lesnar tapping.

Sad it's never gonna happen though.
I havent seen the fight yet , but I have seen Fed in the past , he can take a beating , and keep his head about him ......... He can hold his mud , that makes Fed dangerous ........

Ramathorn
07-12-2009, 05:01 AM
I don't watch this crap much. Just happened to be home tonight.

Was Mir the best possible challenger to this goof?

you JUST happened to home tonight and ordered it on PPV even though you dont watch it? strange

Ramathorn
07-12-2009, 05:02 AM
After seeing brock fight, I really don't think he'd have a snowball's chance in hell against fedor.

I've seen him take multiple shots from a 7 foot giant, then come right back and submit.

Don't see that fight (although it would never happen, and NOT because of Fedor's camp...it's Dana White's stupid ass) getting past the second. You wanna talk about a man with an iron chin, cement block fists, and one of the best submission games around, Fedor is undeniably the best heavyweight in the world.

Brock's big, hits hard, but his ground game is lacking. And don't give me any of that "oh, he's a former NCAA champ college wrestler" bs either, cause it was the same thing. His size outmatched his competition.

Fedor on his back in that same situation as Mir tonight, ends up with lesnar tapping.

Sad it's never gonna happen though.

Fedor would get his ass handed to him on a platter if he steps into the squared circle with The NEXT BIG THING!!!

elsid13
07-12-2009, 06:27 AM
It was a good met tonight. The card brought a lot of good fights and action. I hope GSP thinks about gaining weight and challenging Silva. That would be a match.

Lesnar is a dick that for sure, you would need to find someone that normal in the 300 pound range that comfortable cutting weight to 260 to meet him. Lesner's game is to lean on you, get you to the ground and pound. Little to no technique, even though he legimate star in NCAA. Fedor would be great fight almost as good as dream match-up of Silva/GSP

theAPAOps5
07-12-2009, 08:26 AM
and p.s. I've neve liked brock (anybody who gets a title shot after three fights means your sport is whacksauce), but after tonight's post fight interview I was laughin my ass off. He seems like a pretty down to earth guy.

I'm gonna drink a coors light... HA! Sit down with the fam, then maybe get on top of my wife tonight! LOL

You missed the second best part of that quote! He isn't drinking Bud Light because they aren't paying him!

theAPAOps5
07-12-2009, 08:27 AM
How many guys have tested positive?

I don't know because I am a casual fan but I have watched/listened to several interviews with the founder of UFC thats where I am taking that from.

Bronco Rob
07-12-2009, 10:13 AM
http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/fedor.jpg

Fedor would do more than just challenge him...


Fedor would get his ass handed to him on a platter if he steps into the squared circle with The NEXT BIG THING!!!


Fedor would destroy Lesnar....

They're not in the same zip code...

Lesnar vs Kimbo Slice....



;)

Popps
07-12-2009, 10:21 AM
you JUST happened to home tonight and ordered it on PPV even though you dont watch it? strange

No, idiot. I watched it on the free link. Did you read the whole thread?

Maybe try that, then we'll talk.

Spider
07-12-2009, 10:28 AM
Lesnar vs Kimbo Slice....



;)

Lesner would destroy Kimbo , that wouldnt even last a round

rugbythug
07-12-2009, 10:46 AM
After seeing brock fight, I really don't think he'd have a snowball's chance in hell against fedor.

I've seen him take multiple shots from a 7 foot giant, then come right back and submit.

Don't see that fight (although it would never happen, and NOT because of Fedor's camp...it's Dana White's stupid ass) getting past the second. You wanna talk about a man with an iron chin, cement block fists, and one of the best submission games around, Fedor is undeniably the best heavyweight in the world.

Brock's big, hits hard, but his ground game is lacking. And don't give me any of that "oh, he's a former NCAA champ college wrestler" bs either, cause it was the same thing. His size outmatched his competition.

Fedor on his back in that same situation as Mir tonight, ends up with lesnar tapping.

Sad it's never gonna happen though.

That is just not true. Sure his submission game is not strong. But his ground positioning and top Hold game are great. He has kept down both Mir and Couture. Who else does he need to hold down to be good?

PaintballCLE
07-12-2009, 10:48 AM
Lesner would destroy Kimbo , that wouldnt even last a round

There is an up and coming prospect out of Wyoming......He has a lethal throat punch......Brock Lesner has a huge neck, so I think this crazy looking guy would win in the first round....
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/pntballkrm/aspider-1.jpg

ant1999e
07-12-2009, 11:12 AM
Someone needs to tell Brock that he isn't in the WWE anymore.

OABB
07-12-2009, 11:27 AM
the lesnar hate is as astonishing to me. people need to put aside bias and just look at the facts. in just 5 fights he is a defending champion and has beat two former champions. this astounding. it has never ever happened before.

he has the potential to be great.

but at this point Fedor would dismantle and crack him. he needs to get alot better, and he will. I see an epic battle coming with fedor and I can only
pray that dana doesn't **** it up, although i am sure he will.

Popps
07-12-2009, 11:27 AM
There is an up and coming prospect out of Wyoming......He has a lethal throat punch......Brock Lesner has a huge neck, so I think this crazy looking guy would win in the first round....
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/pntballkrm/aspider-1.jpg

Can't the mods ban that picture or something?

Boobs McGee
07-12-2009, 12:09 PM
That is just not true. Sure his submission game is not strong. But his ground positioning and top Hold game are great. He has kept down both Mir and Couture. Who else does he need to hold down to be good?

Sorry, lemme clarify. Well, you clarified for me. His submission game isn't good at all. Sure, his ground and pound is fine, but Fedor's strength and quickness will remedy that. It won't be a Mir type beatdown on the ground. Those big "lunchboxes" of his will get snapped into an armbar REAL quick.

And p.s. everybody, this just in :Lost in the antics was Lesnar’s performance, a brilliant effort that showed both his growth as a mixed martial artist and the immense potential. The question becomes, who the heck can tame this mountain of a man from the Minnesota woods?

Shane Carwin? Cain Velasquez? Mir in a final chapter of a trilogy of fights? No doubt they’ll get a chance, and no doubt they stand a chance.

The greatest beneficiary of each Lesnar snarl, however, lives in Stary Oskol, Russia, a man named Fedor Emelianenko who is considered the No. 1 heavyweight (if not pound-for-pound fighter) in the world. If anyone has the knockout power to stop the 6-3, 265-pound Lesnar, it’s Emelianenko.

Fedor doesn’t fight in the UFC though. He’s with its rival promotion, Affliction. He’ll fight Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif., in what is the last match of his contract. Affliction is hoping to re-sign him until 2012, but the UFC will come hard after him. More now then ever. And that means money, big money.

“Eventually Fedor is going to be here,” White said. “I want Fedor. We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight.”

Time will tell, but the pressure to sign the elusive Russian has been ratcheted up. A villain was born and there isn’t an obvious superhero in sight. The UFC brought Brock Lesnar over from the WWE for just this kind of a sensation. And the big man has delivered – the good, the bad and the embarrassing
(yahoo sports)


So, possibilities here. I just wonder if they can get the deal done?

Like O & B said, lets just hope dana doesn't **** it up

TDmvp
07-12-2009, 12:50 PM
I also thought it was F'ed up seeing Sable with Brock ...

http://www.wiihotties.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/brock-lesnar-rena-mero-00.jpg

OBF1
07-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Why/How would Dana **** this up? The UFC has money and exposure. If they want AND Fador wants to fight the best available fighters in the world, He will have his people work something out with the UFC. The only thing that will keep Fador from the UFC is him asking for some crazy amout of money that is not there.

Now, any of you ass clowns that have been saying Lesnar is not a good fighter, or has zero skills, go check your bad self.

Lesnar is a great wrestler period. He has the strength of a bull and is lightning quick at shooting for a take down.The kid has learned alot in a short amount of time. Give him another year or so and he will be alot better than he is now. Even if fador was able to beat him in a match that still makes Lesnar #2 in the world and that is a pretty damn good statement on his power and skills.

Also, lets be real here. Lesnar weighed in at the 265lb limit but fought at closer to 285, Fador fights at 225-230, that is a HUGE size advantage

Majik
07-12-2009, 01:27 PM
If there's one thing Lesnar learned from the WWE it was how to build heat, and he obviously has the majority of you guys wrapped around his finger judging by all the hateful comments above.

Lesnar has all the reasons in the world to be as confident as he is, he made (intern world heavyweight champ) look like a nobody in only his 5th career fight. But if you honestly think Lesnar says the dickwad things he says because he's a true down to earth dickhead, i think you are being played.

A Fedor vs Lesnar matchup would be a dream match up on its own, but take it up another notch (interest/money wise) when a good 60 to 70 % of the fans want to see "the prick" Lesnar get his ass handed to him by a legit challenger such as Fedor.

Bronco Rob
07-12-2009, 01:36 PM
Why/How would Dana **** this up? The UFC has money and exposure. If they want AND Fador wants to fight the best available fighters in the world, He will have his people work something out with the UFC. The only thing that will keep Fador from the UFC is him asking for some crazy amout of money that is not there.

Now, any of you ass clowns that have been saying Lesnar is not a good fighter, or has zero skills, go check your bad self.

Lesnar is a great wrestler period. He has the strength of a bull and is lightning quick at shooting for a take down.The kid has learned alot in a short amount of time. Give him another year or so and he will be alot better than he is now. Even if fador was able to beat him in a match that still makes Lesnar #2 in the world and that is a pretty damn good statement on his power and skills.

Also, lets be real here. Lesnar weighed in at the 265lb limit but fought at closer to 285, Fador fights at 225-230, that is a HUGE size advantage



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syKqI7_Jgq8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCaqbvYTP8


Any questions?

TDmvp
07-12-2009, 01:40 PM
If there's one thing Lesnar learned from the WWE it was how to build heat, and he obviously has the majority of you guys wrapped around his finger judging by all the hateful comments above.



yup ... I said this last night to my GF that Brock is totally using what he learned in the WWE to build hype ... You can see it in the taunting the crowd to boo him more after the match JUST like he did in the wwe ...


He's loving it ... And say whatever you want he did just hold Mir down with one arm and beat the hell outa him with the other and before the fight they acted like Mir was some god ... It's going to take a bad sob to derail Brock ...

Spider
07-12-2009, 01:41 PM
There is an up and coming prospect out of Wyoming......He has a lethal throat punch......Brock Lesner has a huge neck, so I think this crazy looking guy would win in the first round....
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/pntballkrm/aspider-1.jpg

;D naw I couldnt take Lesner in a match , I would need an equalizer ...... I wouldnt back down from him , but I would expect to lose ;D

TDmvp
07-12-2009, 01:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syKqI7_Jgq8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCaqbvYTP8


Any questions?


unimpressed ...

Bronco Rob
07-12-2009, 01:48 PM
unimpressed ...


With the opposition I hope.


:D

TDmvp
07-12-2009, 01:56 PM
With the opposition I hope.


:D

actually YUP ... really that was what made it hard FOR ME personally to tell much about Fador having not seen any of his fights "just highlights" ... But those guys he was fighting was people who it looked like shouldn't have even been in the building let alone the ring ...

Spider
07-12-2009, 02:04 PM
actually YUP ... really that was what made it hard FOR ME personally to tell much about Fador having not seen any of his fights "just highlights" ... But those guys he was fighting was people who it looked like shouldn't have even been in the building let alone the ring ...

first one yeah I would agre , the other 2 no , that monster of an Asian is pretty good ....... one punch he did jack up Fedors face pretty good , Conseco didnt do well against that big man ........

elsid13
07-12-2009, 02:43 PM
According to ESPin radio Dana White tore into Lesnar after the fight. Told him that his behavior was unacceptable and had no place in UFC. I guess it was clean it up or back to the WWE.

Atwater His Ass
07-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Gracie Jujitsu basically proved having no skill + being big = a loss most of the time. If you're telling me he has no skill and just knows how to punch, you're an idiot and shouldn't be commenting on such topics.


[I]Lost in the antics was Lesnar’s performance, a brilliant effort that showed both his growth as a mixed martial artist and the immense potential. The question becomes, who the heck can tame this mountain of a man from the Minnesota woods?



Lesnar is from Webster, South Dakota.

According to ESPin radio Dana White tore into Lesnar after the fight. Told him that his behavior was unacceptable and had no place in UFC. I guess it was clean it up or back to the WWE.

Publicaly, of course he'll do those things to perserve the integrity of the fights. I would imagine he's more upset over how Lesnar dissed on their coporate sponsor than anything else he did since that's just not good business.

However, you know behind closed doors he's absolutely loving the drama this is stirring up. Who wouldn't? All it's going to do is get more and more people interested in buying the next PPV.

Also, like was said above, if you actually belive any of that crap that Lesnar did after the fight was genuine, you are being 100% played and Lesnar and UFC are loving it.

Boobs McGee
07-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Lol legit challenger? SO by that admission your saying Fedor is the one challenging Lesnar?

Come on now. The guy has won 4 fights. He beat couture, which is awesome, but frank mir is overrated, heath was old, and kim sucks balls. And as much as I love Randy, he was 45 and on his way out when he got beat. That is in no way a knock on Randy, who I respect as one of the greats, but one of the reasons he stayed on top for so long is because the UFC heavyweight class right now sucks.

Lesnar has potential, but jumping all over his nuts because he beat 4 different guys does not make him the undisputed king.

Fedor on the other hand, aside from whooping the crap out of MANY champions/former champions, has been a 5 time World (yes, world, not americanized UFC) Sambo champion. 3 time pride heavyweight, which is the man's version of the ufc, and numerous other accolades.

Brock has shown he can punch and throw his 290 pound frame (which he's actually fighting at) around, but just because you have a quick shoot in doesn't mean you can wrestle.

I'm not saying he isn't a good fighter. He's tough, he's quick, and he's big. But he's just NOT as good as everyone says he is overall, especially in a worldwide kinda ranking.

Dana White has been ****ing things up with fedors camp from the get go, and as of yet they haven't been able to come together on anything. NOW, they're trying to get some other Red Devil Fight Club members guaranteed fights with the UFC before he'll sign, so it's kind of a cluster.


And atwater, the sports writers said "from the Minnesota Woods" because that's where he lives, trains, and consequently spent most of his college career. He was BORN in south dakota.

Atwater His Ass
07-12-2009, 05:41 PM
And atwater, the sports writers said "from the Minnesota Woods" because that's where he lives, trains, and consequently spent most of his college career. He was BORN in south dakota.

Not that it's relevant to the discussion, but he was born, raised, and graduated high school from Webster. Normally, that's where people say they are "from".

OBF1
07-12-2009, 06:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syKqI7_Jgq8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWCaqbvYTP8


Any questions?

YES, how long have you been smoking man pipe???

OBF1
07-12-2009, 06:22 PM
. Brock has shown he can punch and throw his 290 pound frame (which he's actually fighting at) around, but just because you have a quick shoot in doesn't mean you can wrestle.
I'm not saying he isn't a good fighter. He's tough, he's quick, and he's big. But he's just NOT as good as everyone says he is overall, especially in a worldwide kinda ranking..

After the american idol thread, I was wondering if you were gay, Now after your comments here I know you are. Dude.... Lesnar is a 4 time all american heavyweight Div 1 wrestler.... What part of that means he CAN'T wrestle ???

It is appearant you have not watched a single fight of his...OR you have zero experience fighting. Lesnar has taken every one of his opponents to the ground (Think wrestling) and proceeded to beat on them (Ground and Pound)

Because Lesner has zero Ju Jitsu (Frank Mier black belt) or Martial Arts (Lyoto Machida) experience does not mean he is not a good fighter. He style and experience is to beat/pound on his opponents instead of submitting them.... either way is effective.

Now stay out of a man's sport and go do what you do best :thumbs:

OABB
07-12-2009, 06:32 PM
After the american idol thread, I was wondering if you were gay, Now after your comments here I know you are. Dude.... Lesnar is a 4 time all american heavyweight Div 1 wrestler.... What part of that means he CAN'T wrestle ???

It is appearant you have not watched a single fight of his...OR you have zero experience fighting. Lesnar has taken every one of his opponents to the ground (Think wrestling) and proceeded to beat on them (Ground and Pound)

Because Lesner has zero Ju Jitsu (Frank Mier black belt) or Martial Arts (Lyoto Machida) experience does not mean he is not a good fighter. He style and experience is to beat/pound on his opponents instead of submitting them.... either way is effective.

Now stay out of a man's sport and go do what you do best :thumbs:

with all due respect, bronconia knows more about mma than most peopler here and what he says about brock is true. the thing i believe he missing is
that while brock may be behind in martial arts, his physical ability is unmatched and the fact that he champ doesn't mean the sport sucks, it means brock really is special. He has the potential to be the most dominant fighter of all time.

don't sleep on brock, he is the real deal.

Malcontent
07-12-2009, 07:26 PM
;D naw I couldnt take Lesner in a match , I would need an equalizer ...... I wouldnt back down from him , but I would expect to lose ;D

Spidey need some traps on him for shoulder stability and he's ready to go MMA.

Broncobiv
07-12-2009, 09:08 PM
YES, how long have you been smoking man pipe???
After the american idol thread, I was wondering if you were gay, Now after your comments here I know you are.

...

Now stay out of a man's sport and go do what you do best :thumbs:
Got something on the mind there, CBF? Just because someone's opinion of your apparent man-crush Brock Lesnar doesn't jive with you, I don't really think that's an acceptable reason to be calling them gay.

Spider
07-12-2009, 09:42 PM
with all due respect, bronconia knows more about mma than most peopler here and what he says about brock is true. the thing i believe he missing is
that while brock may be behind in martial arts, his physical ability is unmatched and the fact that he champ doesn't mean the sport sucks, it means brock really is special. He has the potential to be the most dominant fighter of all time.

don't sleep on brock, he is the real deal.

Thats all good , but until you meet someone that can take a beating as well as give a beating .....
Brock tapped out of Mir 1 fight .... Brock is leagues above Kimbo though ......
I doubt from what I have seen....... Fedor is alot better and tougher then brock...Brock would walk through Kimbo like a hot knife through butter , unless Kimbo got a lucky shot in

Spider
07-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Spidey need some traps on him for shoulder stability and he's ready to go MMA.

;D ....... when I was younger i took on a 310 Pound Bouncer at a bar called Country land in Commerce city , I dropped him , but man I couldnt move for days he hurt me that bad ....... after that I use equalizers ;D

tsiguy96
07-12-2009, 09:47 PM
I doubt from what I have seen....... Fedor is alot better and tougher then brock...Brock would walk through Kimbo like a hot knife through butter , unless Kimbo got a lucky shot in

you doubt fedor? he is possibly the greatest fighter in the world, in any weight class. he would be undefeated, but his lone loss came in a tournament where he couldnt continue and there had to be a winner, or it would be a no contest. brock has won a few fights in pretty dominant fashion, but fedor has done it year in and year out, with little to no challenge. go watch his fight against arlov, it was sick. there is zero chance that anyone can be classified as better than fedor until you actually beat him. he is the top contender, not lesnar.

Spider
07-12-2009, 09:49 PM
you doubt fedor? he is possibly the greatest fighter in the world, in any weight class. he would be undefeated, but his lone loss came in a tournament where he couldnt continue and there had to be a winner, or it would be a no contest. brock has won a few fights in pretty dominant fashion, but fedor has done it year in and year out, with little to no challenge. go watch his fight against arlov, it was sick. there is zero chance that anyone can be classified as better than fedor until you actually beat him. he is the top contender, not lesnar.

No i dont doubt Fedor , fedor holds his mud even when he is taking a beating , Fedor is a very dangerous opponent.......

tsiguy96
07-12-2009, 09:51 PM
No i dont doubt Fedor , fedor holds his mud even when he is taking a beating , Fedor is a very dangerous opponent.......

oh, was gonna say...to ever doubt fedor is just silly, especially against a guy with 4 fights in his belt. fedor fights again in like 3 weeks, should be on PPV. gonna be a ****ing massacre too, look for it to end within 2 minutes.

Spider
07-12-2009, 09:53 PM
oh, was gonna say...to ever doubt fedor is just silly, especially against a guy with 4 fights in his belt. fedor fights again in like 3 weeks, should be on PPV. gonna be a ****ing massacre too, look for it to end within 2 minutes.

4 or 400 Fights brock has a mean streak in him , I would have more faith in Brock if he didnt tap out though ...... would have been much better to have been knocked out

Popps
07-12-2009, 10:48 PM
;D ....... when I was younger i took on a 310 Pound Bouncer at a bar called Country land in Commerce city , I dropped him , but man I couldnt move for days he hurt me that bad ....... after that I use equalizers ;D

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/03/20/apes_wideweb__470x342,0.jpg

kamakazi_kal
07-12-2009, 10:51 PM
I was just glad to see henderson pull the wool on that brit..... after watchin the show I couldnt help but think the guy was just an ass.

TDmvp
07-12-2009, 10:52 PM
;D ....... when I was younger i took on a 310 Pound Bouncer at a bar called Country land in Commerce city , I dropped him , but man I couldnt move for days he hurt me that bad ....... after that I use equalizers ;D



http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/03/20/apes_wideweb__470x342,0.jpg

Ok which one is suppose to be Spider ? ... MUUUhahahaha Hilarious! Hilarious!
:spit:


:thanku: :thanku: :thanku:

Popps
07-12-2009, 10:58 PM
Ok which one is suppose to be Spider ? ... MUUUhahahaha Hilarious! Hilarious!
:spit:


:thanku: :thanku: :thanku:

You're old enough to remember those movies, aren't you?

I swear, it's like a chronicle of Spider's life.

TDmvp
07-12-2009, 11:00 PM
You're old enough to remember those movies, aren't you?

I swear, it's like a chronicle of Spider's life.


LOL yea I am .... and Yea it sorta is :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Boobs McGee
07-12-2009, 11:34 PM
After the american idol thread, I was wondering if you were gay, Now after your comments here I know you are. Dude.... Lesnar is a 4 time all american heavyweight Div 1 wrestler.... What part of that means he CAN'T wrestle ???

It is appearant you have not watched a single fight of his...OR you have zero experience fighting. Lesnar has taken every one of his opponents to the ground (Think wrestling) and proceeded to beat on them (Ground and Pound)

Because Lesner has zero Ju Jitsu (Frank Mier black belt) or Martial Arts (Lyoto Machida) experience does not mean he is not a good fighter. He style and experience is to beat/pound on his opponents instead of submitting them.... either way is effective.

Now stay out of a man's sport and go do what you do best :thumbs:

LOL wow, insecure much?

It's okay, I realize the giant penis he has on his chest makes you all hot and bothered inside...but get a ****in clue dude.

Ooooooh, NCAA champ? REALLY? It's called being ****ing huge. And outweighing all of your college opponents on average by 40 pounds with a 4 to 6 inch height advantage.

Did I say he CANT wrestle? No. I said I didn't think he was very GOOD at it. Obviously he has to have SOME skill, but I believe his size and agility had more to do with it than actual technique. I've watched all of his fights in mma thus far, and havent seen dick on the ground besides passing a guard, staying on top, and bludgeoning someone. If couture wasn't outweighed by 60 ****ing pounds (slight exaggeration), he might have submitted him much like mir did after the stoppage in the first fight.

Am I saying he isn't going to be on top for a LONG time? No. I think once he gets trained properly, there isn't going to be anyone to touch him for years to come. But right now, his game has holes, the most glaring being his "wrestling".

So pull the shlong out of your ear and quit bein a little b****.

And p.s., if by "doing what you do best" you mean makin panties drop with my voice, then I'll be happy to continue. You were the little b**** in high school calling me a fag in the showers with your nuts in hand, while I was going on overnight trips with 40 choir girls at a music retreat.

Flame on you ****ing doochenozzle :thumbs:

Boobs McGee
07-12-2009, 11:38 PM
No i dont doubt Fedor , fedor holds his mud even when he is taking a beating , Fedor is a very dangerous opponent.......

Exactly....he's dangerous!!!

Looks like a pissed off russian mechanic lol.


Hey bro, were you pullin a big ol 3 axle army vehicle over the weekend of the fourth?

SWEAR i saw some dude with a blue rig comin down I-70 with a bronco logo.

Boobs McGee
07-12-2009, 11:39 PM
Not that it's relevant to the discussion, but he was born, raised, and graduated high school from Webster. Normally, that's where people say they are "from".

I get what your sayin. My mistake ;D

Boobs McGee
07-12-2009, 11:44 PM
with all due respect, bronconia knows more about mma than most peopler here and what he says about brock is true. the thing i believe he missing is
that while brock may be behind in martial arts, his physical ability is unmatched and the fact that he champ doesn't mean the sport sucks, it means brock really is special. He has the potential to be the most dominant fighter of all time.

don't sleep on brock, he is the real deal.

Thank you kind sir:thanku:

but seriously now....I agree with you on most of that. His physical ability is head and shoulders above the rest, and he DOES have the potential to be the most dominant ever.

Unfortunately for him, if they can't find legit contenders, he's gonna go down lookin like a chump. white NEEEEEDS to get the deal done with Fedor. If Lesnar won, not only would it solidify his place in history, but would definitely silence the critics (like me haha).

kamakazi_kal
07-12-2009, 11:49 PM
im still suprised mir didnt try more often to initate the takedown for top position ...... if that dude lays on you, what can you really do.

Broncoman13
07-13-2009, 04:47 AM
I'm a little surprised at how well Brock took the knees that Mir was throwing. He had one knee that landed pretty cleanly and it barely dazed Lesnar. One thing is for certain, Fedor has some stronger strikes so it would be interesting to see how he does against Lesnar. But, as good as Fedor is, I don't think he's faced the raw power and agility of Lesnar before. He has faced stronger guys, and he's faced quicker guys... but not both at the same time. It will be interesting... and I hope Fedor dismantles the douchebag.

I'm also hopeful that we'll see a Shane Carwin vs Cain Valasquez fight pretty soon. Carwin is about Lesnar's weigh in size, but he also walks around at about 260. More cut up than Brock and probably just as powerful. Keep your eye on him. He's a local dude that is truly up and coming. Undefeated at this point but only one major opponent (knock out of Gabriel Gonzaga). That fight displayed his raw power. Didn't even wind up for the punch that ended the fight.

And finally, I'm still smiling from the ass whoopin Dan Henderson put on Bisping. Bisping is like Machida except he isn't nearly as talented with his strikes. Plus he's a dick that talks a lot of BS. Anybody that runs for 3 rounds and peppers in a couple of strikes here and there for the win is a pussy in my book and that's exactly what he did in his last fight vs Leben.

Broncoman13
07-13-2009, 05:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py2UxWHMcWg&feature=related

Carwin vs his first real opponent. Shows that he can take on some pretty strong shots himself and then his raw power.


He too was a championship caliber wrestler in college. He has exceptional power and probably one of the best guys at passing a guard and wearing out his opponent in the mount position. :strong:

Atwater His Ass
07-13-2009, 06:09 AM
Am I saying he isn't going to be on top for a LONG time? No. I think once he gets trained properly, there isn't going to be anyone to touch him for years to come. But right now, his game has holes, the most glaring being his "wrestling".



I think this is a very ignorant statement. You can say a lot about Lesnar and his weaknesses and not many would disagree. But you don't have a leg to stand on if you want to question his wrestling ability. His personal records and achievements throughout his life more than suffice as evidence.

People that are caught up in the "size" thing are just making excuses imo. I said it earlier in this thread and it bears repeating: Gracie Jujitsu basically proved having no skill + being big = a loss most of the time. If you're telling me he has no skill and just knows how to punch, you're an idiot and shouldn't be commenting on such topics.

When you are dissing on Lesnar's abilities, you aren't dissing on Lesnar. You're saying his competiton up to this point hasn't been adequate. You're saying a guy based around (in your words) speed, strength, and agility is too much for guys much more skilled in martial art techinques. But that's a very difficult position to defend, seeing how he's already beaten 2 world champions, eventhough he's not "trained properly".

If that is really your view, you've just disenfranchised the entire sport.

Boobs McGee
07-13-2009, 06:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py2UxWHMcWg&feature=related

Carwin vs his first real opponent. Shows that he can take on some pretty strong shots himself and then his raw power.


He too was a championship caliber wrestler in college. He has exceptional power and probably one of the best guys at passing a guard and wearing out his opponent in the mount position. :strong:

WOW. great summary, that's exactly what I was thinkin after I watched the video. Strong chin, great at passing the guard (gonzaga's got a wicked ground game, so that's impressive), and some decent power. I'll be keepin an eye on him...good find

Boobs McGee
07-13-2009, 06:20 AM
I think this is a very ignorant statement. You can say a lot about Lesnar and his weaknesses and not many would disagree. But you don't have a leg to stand on if you want to question his wrestling ability. His personal records and achievements throughout his life more than suffice as evidence.

People that are caught up in the "size" thing are just making excuses imo. I said it earlier in this thread and it bears repeating: Gracie Jujitsu basically proved having no skill + being big = a loss most of the time. If you're telling me he has no skill and just knows how to punch, you're an idiot and shouldn't be commenting on such topics.

When you are dissing on Lesnar's abilities, you aren't dissing on Lesnar. You're saying his competiton up to this point hasn't been adequate. You're saying a guy based around (in your words) speed, strength, and agility is too much for guys much more skilled in martial art techinques. But that's a very difficult position to defend, seeing how he's already beaten 2 world champions, eventhough he's not "trained properly".

If that is really your view, you've just disenfranchised the entire sport.

See my earlier posts. I'm not dissing on all of his abilities, just his wrestling. I've said it in just about every one of my posts. He's strong, he's agile, and his skills are developing.

I haven't seen enough of any kind of wrestling moves to prove to me he has skill IN THE MMA. And the college video I watched really wasn't impressive either.

We both have opinions. Hopefully I get proven wrong. You give me a solid example in his MMA career where he's displayed something more than an average wrestling move, and I'll shut up.

This isn't the same as Division one college people. This is full contact fighting. Just because you could wrestle with the best in the country doesn't mean your games on top. Theres a LOT to be said for the fact that he's so much bigger than his opponents. When you get someone who's 300 pounds, 9 percent body fat, AND has skill, you're going to be hard pressed to find anyone that can keep up, purely in a physical state.

How that disenfranchises the sport is beyond me, but whatever

Ramathorn
07-13-2009, 06:35 AM
No, idiot. I watched it on the free link. Did you read the whole thread?

Maybe try that, then we'll talk.

sticks and stones will break my bones.........:thumbsup:

broncofan7
07-13-2009, 06:41 AM
Fedor>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lesnar

broncofan7
07-13-2009, 06:43 AM
I was shocked at how GSP was able to get Alves down after Hughes struggled with that--although Hughes is about done in my summation. That was a great fight as well........

Boobs McGee
07-13-2009, 06:49 AM
I think this is a very ignorant statement. You can say a lot about Lesnar and his weaknesses and not many would disagree. But you don't have a leg to stand on if you want to question his wrestling ability. His personal records and achievements throughout his life more than suffice as evidence.

People that are caught up in the "size" thing are just making excuses imo. I said it earlier in this thread and it bears repeating: Gracie Jujitsu basically proved having no skill + being big = a loss most of the time. If you're telling me he has no skill and just knows how to punch, you're an idiot and shouldn't be commenting on such topics.

When you are dissing on Lesnar's abilities, you aren't dissing on Lesnar. You're saying his competiton up to this point hasn't been adequate. You're saying a guy based around (in your words) speed, strength, and agility is too much for guys much more skilled in martial art techinques. But that's a very difficult position to defend, seeing how he's already beaten 2 world champions, eventhough he's not "trained properly".

If that is really your view, you've just disenfranchised the entire sport.


And p.s. gracie was THE BEST bjj fighter in the world. so that argument isn't really valid. Brock hasn't faced anyone on that same level, except couture, who was already 46.

try again though

Bronco Rob
07-13-2009, 07:20 AM
you doubt fedor? he is possibly the greatest fighter in the world, in any weight class. he would be undefeated, but his lone loss came in a tournament where he couldnt continue and there had to be a winner, or it would be a no contest. brock has won a few fights in pretty dominant fashion, but fedor has done it year in and year out, with little to no challenge. go watch his fight against arlov, it was sick. there is zero chance that anyone can be classified as better than fedor until you actually beat him. he is the top contender, not lesnar.


Fedor>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lesnar




^5

Atwater His Ass
07-13-2009, 03:16 PM
And p.s. gracie was THE BEST bjj fighter in the world. so that argument isn't really valid. Brock hasn't faced anyone on that same level, except couture, who was already 46.

try again though

So nobody knows about bjj other than the gracies? The point is 100% valid. Guys that are much more skilled technically then Lesnar should be able to beat him. The part where we disagree is that I think it's more of a testament to Lesnar's skill level, whereas you think it's all his size and athleticism. Although his size and his agility is definately an advantage, it's not this unscaleable mountain you are making it out to be.

If these more technical fighers can't put the beat down on a guy who just walks in off the street only because he bigger, well, what does that really say about technical ability? And what does it say about the sport?

It's either the fighters are horrible, MMA is a joke, or that Lesnar actually does some ability.

Boobs McGee
07-13-2009, 03:38 PM
So nobody knows about bjj other than the gracies? The point is 100% valid. Guys that are much more skilled technically then Lesnar should be able to beat him. The part where we disagree is that I think it's more of a testament to Lesnar's skill level, whereas you think it's all his size and athleticism. Although his size and his agility is definately an advantage, it's not this unscaleable mountain you are making it out to be.

If these more technical fighers can't put the beat down on a guy who just walks in off the street only because he bigger, well, what does that really say about technical ability? And what does it say about the sport?

It's either the fighters are horrible, MMA is a joke, or that Lesnar actually does some ability.

I was saying they pioneered it, and in that sense they made ANYONE, be it big and untalented or small and super talented, or any mix of the two, look like a little kid fighting their dad.

Yes, you're partially correct in the defining of our disagreement, except I've said, and I'll say again, I think he does have skill. I'm just not buying into the fact that the complete domination of his wrestling career was due to an exceptional degree of skill. I knew and watched plenty of wrestlers that, because of their size, dominated their opponents with superior skill simply BECAUSE of the size advantage.

I will concede the point though, that yes, he may be a better wrestler than I'm giving him credit. I just haven't seen anything to prove it to me...hence my opinion. And yes that's kind of a backward stance, i haven't seen it so it didn't happen, so maybe I'm being a bit unfair.

I just think he's SUCH and athletic and large human being, that it does neutralize much of the technical ability put against him in contest. Not a knock on the sport or the contenders at all, but I just can't overlook the advantage he has.

Spider
07-13-2009, 07:52 PM
Exactly....he's dangerous!!!

Looks like a pissed off russian mechanic lol.


Hey bro, were you pullin a big ol 3 axle army vehicle over the weekend of the fourth?

SWEAR i saw some dude with a blue rig comin down I-70 with a bronco logo.
;D naw that wasnt me , But I am in Greeley colo right now ....... I left Kansas City Kansas this morning @ 8:00 our time , Hell I am parked and ate a meat lovers omlett
Walked the dog between St . Francis Kansas , to Benett colorado

Spider
07-13-2009, 07:57 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/03/20/apes_wideweb__470x342,0.jpg

Clint was a great guy to work with ;D
never would let me drive though