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TonyR
07-10-2009, 12:21 PM
The Denver Broncos aren't sure what happens next with wide receiver Brandon Marshall. He skipped a mandatory minicamp, wants a new contract and once told local police he has as much affection for Denver as Al Davis does for Mike Shanahan. Moreover, Marshall's agent said the disgruntled star wants out and that the Broncos will try to accommodate him.

There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.

I don't care if Marshall is unhappy. I don't care if he doesn't like the new coaching staff. I don't give a flip whether he doesn't report to training camp, demands to be traded or doesn't play a down this season. What I do care about is the 52 other guys who fill the Broncos' roster, and so should new coach Josh McDaniels.

That's why this one is a no-brainer. If the organization caves in and gives Marshall what he wants -- which, I imagine, is a one-way ticket out of town -- every malcontent, every guy who isn't starting and every El demando who doesn't get his way will want the same thing, citing Marshall and Jay Cutler as role models.

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.

Read the rest here:

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11934745

watermock
07-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Imagine a front office of A.J. Smith and McBeavis.

It would be worse than Hitler and Himmler.

BroncoBuff
07-10-2009, 12:26 PM
There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.
I'll buy that ... and who was making the point (and a great point it is) that as an RFA next year, another team would have to give up a 1st and 3rd to get him? So the bidding starts there, a 1st and 3rd ... and nobody's gonna pay that.

So yeah, the article is right: we do squat.

BroncoBuff
07-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Imagine a front office of A.J. Smith and McBeavis.

It would be worse than Hitler and Himmler.

Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster ???

tsiguy96
07-10-2009, 12:30 PM
Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster ???

he may be one of teh top drafting GMs in the league. but hes a huge dbag

DBroncos4life
07-10-2009, 12:32 PM
Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster ???
Because he is a Charger?

BroncoMan4ever
07-10-2009, 12:46 PM
Why exactly does everybody hate A.J. Smith?

Seems to me he's assembled a pretty excellent, even awesome roster ???

that happens by default when you pick in the top 5 for more than a decade.

BroncoMan4ever
07-10-2009, 12:51 PM
I'll buy that ... and who was making the point (and a great point it is) that as an RFA next year, another team would have to give up a 1st and 3rd to get him? So the bidding starts there, a 1st and 3rd ... and nobody's gonna pay that.

So yeah, the article is right: we do squat.

i agree. plus it looks good in our favor. TC starts in a few weeks, we tell Marshall we looked into offers for you, but no one was willing to pay what we feel you are worth to our team. He comes to camp after maybe a few skipped days and we move on, and by midseason we offer him a new deal.

there are only 2 ways this should end. we make him play 1 more year for us and tender him with a 1st and 3rd

or

we do nothing and re-sign him long term before the season ends

either way, we end up with either a great receiver or great compensation for him

Borks147
07-10-2009, 05:57 PM
that happens by default when you pick in the top 5 for more than a decade.

*cough* LIONS *cough*

Popps
07-10-2009, 05:59 PM
What a phenomenally accurate article.

mizzoutigers
07-10-2009, 06:28 PM
he's really the only piece of sh** on the current roster; a roster that used to have quite a few.

Atlas
07-10-2009, 06:37 PM
The Denver Broncos aren't sure what happens next with wide receiver Brandon Marshall. He skipped a mandatory minicamp, wants a new contract and once told local police he has as much affection for Denver as Al Davis does for Mike Shanahan. Moreover, Marshall's agent said the disgruntled star wants out and that the Broncos will try to accommodate him.

There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.

I don't care if Marshall is unhappy. I don't care if he doesn't like the new coaching staff. I don't give a flip whether he doesn't report to training camp, demands to be traded or doesn't play a down this season. What I do care about is the 52 other guys who fill the Broncos' roster, and so should new coach Josh McDaniels.

That's why this one is a no-brainer. If the organization caves in and gives Marshall what he wants -- which, I imagine, is a one-way ticket out of town -- every malcontent, every guy who isn't starting and every El demando who doesn't get his way will want the same thing, citing Marshall and Jay Cutler as role models.

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.

Read the rest here:

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11934745

I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.

tsiguy96
07-10-2009, 06:40 PM
I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.

theyd prolly be better off just cutting him and relocating the team to london.

Atlas
07-10-2009, 06:42 PM
theyd prolly be better off just cutting him and relocating the team to london.

I don't see how that would help, but thanks for your input.

tsiguy96
07-10-2009, 06:45 PM
I don't see how that would help, but thanks for your input.

then they wouldnt even need to bother playing the season, since its already over and everything.

Popps
07-10-2009, 06:53 PM
I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.

http://www.225.ca/ivan/nov03/crybaby.jpg

Atlas
07-10-2009, 06:53 PM
then they wouldnt even need to bother playing the season, since its already over and everything.

So when the prediction thread comes out you're not going to make a prediction? You're above that?

Hey, if the Broncos go 5-11 this year they'll have done better than I thought and I'll be happy.

Hogan11
07-10-2009, 08:06 PM
El Demando....Ha!

~Crash~
07-10-2009, 09:33 PM
he's really the only piece of sh** on the current roster; a roster that used to have quite a few.

so randy moss is a great big piece of **** and your point is ?:welcome:

BroncoMan4ever
07-10-2009, 09:34 PM
*cough* LIONS *cough*

That's the Millen Effect. a normal team picking top 5 for around a decade should load a team with stars at different positions. Not 4 of those top 5 picks at the same position.

BroncoMan4ever
07-10-2009, 09:39 PM
I guess MCKYD is taking charge like he did in the Cutler debacle and going to trade him. At this point it really doesn't matter. I could really see Marshall being a distraction on a 4-12 team. Might as well trade him for a 2nd rounder.

**** that! let him be a punk bitch for a year, he has to come in and play his ass off for us anyway if he wants his FA money. he can't afford to sit out and hope teams will throw money at him for being a distraction on and off the field. he has to get to camp show what he can do on the field, and stay out of trouble to get his money.

and if he doesn't want to be here, so be it. we get all we can for him for 1 more year, and next offseason tender him at a 1st and 3rd and get all we can for him. if next season we can get a 1st and 3rd for him, we can't trade him now for anything less.

i say stand firm with him, make him realize he has no option but to show up, see how he handles himself with the new coach and system, see if he is staying out of trouble and if he is, by midseason offer him a new deal. if he refuses, say thanks for your service here, tender him 1st and 3rd next offseason and move on.

TheReverend
07-10-2009, 10:21 PM
Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.

I love how when I bring that up RE Cutler, the other side of the fence screams that that's not true and that he forced the FO into action despite saying he'd show up for mandatory activities. Yet, now in this Marshall situation, they all rush to it and say "we have the leverage".

Make up your ****ing minds kids.

tsiguy96
07-10-2009, 10:29 PM
I love how when I bring that up RE Cutler, the other side of the fence screams that that's not true and that he forced the FO into action despite saying he'd show up for mandatory activities. Yet, now in this Marshall situation, they all rush to it and say "we have the leverage".

Make up your ****ing minds kids.

most of us agree that cutler shouldnt be traded, and if WE personally ran teh team, probably would not have traded him. however, he personally insulted the owner of the team, the guy who signed his checks, and thus was delivered a one way sentence to the QB killer town. mcdaniels did not order the jay cutler trade, by most accounts he was gonna let it die down and talk with jay cutler during ota's etc.

Atlas
07-10-2009, 11:24 PM
**** that! let him be a punk b**** for a year, he has to come in and play his ass off for us anyway if he wants his FA money. he can't afford to sit out and hope teams will throw money at him for being a distraction on and off the field. he has to get to camp show what he can do on the field, and stay out of trouble to get his money.

and if he doesn't want to be here, so be it. we get all we can for him for 1 more year, and next offseason tender him at a 1st and 3rd and get all we can for him. if next season we can get a 1st and 3rd for him, we can't trade him now for anything less.

i say stand firm with him, make him realize he has no option but to show up, see how he handles himself with the new coach and system, see if he is staying out of trouble and if he is, by midseason offer him a new deal. if he refuses, say thanks for your service here, tender him 1st and 3rd next offseason and move on.

He can play his ASS off, get great stats and still be a huge distraction for the team... IE T.O. IE Chad Johnson.

Hulamau
07-11-2009, 12:26 AM
The writer of this article gets three gold stars!!!

dbfan4life
07-11-2009, 12:37 AM
Marshall should listen to Ochocinco when he said (paraphrased), " Don't try this **** unless you are a QB!"

400HZ
07-11-2009, 12:46 AM
I'll buy that ... and who was making the point (and a great point it is) that as an RFA next year, another team would have to give up a 1st and 3rd to get him? So the bidding starts there, a 1st and 3rd ... and nobody's gonna pay that.

So yeah, the article is right: we do squat.

I bet there is at least one team that would.

tsiguy96
07-11-2009, 12:53 AM
I bet there is at least one team that would.

if he performs this year and shuts his mouth, maybe, but thats a LOT to give up for a WR

DBroncos4life
07-11-2009, 01:08 AM
The Pats got Moss and Welker for a 2nd, 4th and a 7th.

BroncoMan4ever
07-11-2009, 01:14 AM
He can play his ASS off, get great stats and still be a huge distraction for the team... IE T.O. IE Chad Johnson.

by being a huge distraction for the team, he directly drops his dollars when FA comes for him. if it gets out that he is ****ing up team chemistry or just being a clown, teams will be wary of him like they are with TO. he has talent but his antics might overshadow it is what will spread through the league.

he has no options in this situation. all he can do is come to work, and stay quiet. if he rocks the boat, he loses money, if he doesn't show up to camp or comes in late in the season and has a bad statistical season he loses money. all he can do is come to work, shut his mouth, do his job and wait for the dollars to come in; anything else will damage the potential amount of free agency dollars he can get.

plus if the rumors of him being broke are true, i doubt he will skip any of camp.

i say the front office should call him in once camp begins and tell him, "we were willing to accomodate your trade wishes, but no other teams were willing to give us what we feel you are worth" that sentence makes the FO look good to Marshall, he has no ill will towards them, and comes to work. wait and see for a month or 2 if he is being a good teammate and staying out of trouble, and run the idea of a new contract by him. if he accepts, great. if he doesn't tender him 1st and 3rd next season and move on.


this entire situation is a win for the franchise. we either end up with a great receiver under contract for the next several years, or we get 1 more good season out of a great receiver and an additional 1st and 3rd round pick to help our rebuilding team.

BroncoMan4ever
07-11-2009, 01:17 AM
The Pats got Moss and Welker for a 2nd, 4th and a 7th.

yeah and at the time they acquired those guys. Moss was looking like a has been that OAKLAND didn't want. and Welker was a lifetime ST guy. he never really had any importance in the actual receiving game prior to the trade to the Pats.

Marshall is a different scenario. he is a young pro bowler not even in his prime yet.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2009, 01:24 AM
yeah and at the time they acquired those guys. Moss was looking like a has been that OAKLAND didn't want. and Welker was a lifetime ST guy. he never really had any importance in the actual receiving game prior to the trade to the Pats.

Marshall is a different scenario. he is a young pro bowler not even in his prime yet.

Im not saying Marshall doesn't have value but Moss still was the best WR in the NFL regardless of what that joke of a team in Oakland tried doing to him. Welker was coming off a 67 catch season. Anyone that watched him play should have known that he was way better then the Phins got for him. If anything Im just pointing out how much the NFL teams just love helping the Pats, like taking coaches from them and running there teams into the ground with.

BroncoMan4ever
07-11-2009, 01:31 AM
Im not saying Marshall doesn't have value but Moss still was the best WR in the NFL regardless of what that joke of a team in Oakland tried doing to him. Welker was coming off a 67 catch season. Anyone that watched him play should have known that he was way better then the Phins got for him. If anything Im just pointing out how much the NFL teams just love helping the Pats, like taking coaches from them and running there teams into the ground with.

Moss didn't look like a great receiver in Oakland. it was being speculated he was nearly done. He was just unloaded because it was assumed he had nothing left.

and with Welker, he was still seen more as a ST guy, or number 3 slot receiver, even after a good statistical receiving season

neither of those teams had any possible way of commanding more than what they got for those guys.

DBroncos4life
07-11-2009, 01:41 AM
Moss didn't look like a great receiver in Oakland. it was being speculated he was nearly done. He was just unloaded because it was assumed he had nothing left.

and with Welker, he was still seen more as a ST guy, or number 3 slot receiver, even after a good statistical receiving season

neither of those teams had any possible way of commanding more than what they got for those guys.

Well the Pats put in a pretty good poise pill that made Welker go from a 2nd round pick. Thats what the Phins had tendered on him so they knew what they had. I know people thought Moss was done but they aren't very smart. He was just over 30 and he played for the worst team ever. They let his past dictate what his value was.

tsiguy96
07-11-2009, 01:55 AM
Well the Pats put in a pretty good poise pill that made Welker go from a 2nd round pick. Thats what the Phins had tendered on him so they knew what they had. I know people thought Moss was done but they aren't very smart. He was just over 30 and he played for the worst team ever. They let his past dictate what his value was.

ummm your past generally does dictate youre value. he sucked it up big time, his speed and work ethic were being called into question in oakland. they got a 4th, you think the raiders would have turned down a third or second?

when you trade a player, you get the most you can for them, not just unload to whoever is calling. you are arguing with everyone simply to argue with them and with no real truth to anything you ever say anymore

DBroncos4life
07-11-2009, 02:03 AM
ummm your past generally does dictate youre value. he sucked it up big time, his speed and work ethic were being called into question in oakland. they got a 4th, you think the raiders would have turned down a third or second?

when you trade a player, you get the most you can for them, not just unload to whoever is calling. you are arguing with everyone simply to argue with them and with no real truth to anything you ever say anymore

LOL Oakland man, this was Oakland. Not one part of me was shocked that Moss broke the NFL record with a real QB throwing him the ball. Hell he made Cullpepper look good all those years. Sometime down the road the Randy Moss for a fourth round draft pick will go down as one of the biggest steals of all-time. Work ethic or not the Raiders during that span had to be one of the most pathetic sports teams ever thrown onto a NFL field. Ask Warren Sapp he will tell you all about it. To think a 30 year old athlete like Randy Moss was finished was just dumb and they let the thought of his drug use over shadow what the player could do when he was motivated to play. He ever said he was bored and wanted no part of playing for a ****ed up team like that anymore.

BroncoMan4ever
07-11-2009, 03:33 AM
LOL Oakland man, this was Oakland. Not one part of me was shocked that Moss broke the NFL record with a real QB throwing him the ball. Hell he made Cullpepper look good all those years. Sometime down the road the Randy Moss for a fourth round draft pick will go down as one of the biggest steals of all-time. Work ethic or not the Raiders during that span had to be one of the most pathetic sports teams ever thrown onto a NFL field. Ask Warren Sapp he will tell you all about it. To think a 30 year old athlete like Randy Moss was finished was just dumb and they let the thought of his drug use over shadow what the player could do when he was motivated to play. He ever said he was bored and wanted no part of playing for a ****ed up team like that anymore.

Makes no difference where a player is playing if he is good and actually plays up to his ability. Look at Asomoghua. Top 3 Corner in the league plays in that hell hole. At the time of the trade, Moss wasn't the best receiver in the league, he wasn't even a top 15 receiver anymore, at the time a 4th round pick was what he was worth. Now just because he re-committed himself to the game once out of Oakland means nothing in the argument that he sucked in Oakland and was not a top flight receiver there, and a 4th was what he was worth at the time.

and if NE or Oakland truly felt he was better than a 4th, the trade would have been for more than just a 4th round pick. Oakland just wanted anything they could get for a guy who was playing like he was finished, and NE took a small chance with a mid round pick, that maybe he had something left. at the time it was a good trade and was for what he was worth at the time.

also, on a side note. Moss' record breaking season of TD receptions is bull****, since Jerry Rice set the previous record of 22, in a strike shortened season with only 12 games. meaning had he played a full 16 game season he would have been on pace for 29 TD catches.

azbroncfan
07-11-2009, 06:42 AM
If Marshall is going to play knucklehead and be a pain in the ass I suggest Denver sits him on the bench and fine the crap out of his rumor'd broke arse. He cap number is low enough they can afford to keep him and make an example of him since he has no leverage.

Hogan11
07-11-2009, 07:08 AM
Let him rot if he wants to hold out. Makes no real difference because he's gone in two years anyways (I have zero confidence in him getting a new contract of his liking in Denver).

TonyR
07-11-2009, 08:54 AM
I love how when I bring that up RE Cutler, the other side of the fence screams that that's not true and that he forced the FO into action despite saying he'd show up for mandatory activities. Yet, now in this Marshall situation, they all rush to it and say "we have the leverage".

Make up your ****ing minds kids.

Fair point, but the author of this article explains it in this way:

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

TheReverend
07-11-2009, 09:46 AM
Fair point, but the author of this article explains it in this way:

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

That's fine, but only ONE of these guys held out... he's the one not being called a cry-baby and still on the team.

People really need to get together and work out a functional story together because this is downright silly.

BroncoMan4ever
07-11-2009, 02:58 PM
That's fine, but only ONE of these guys held out... he's the one not being called a cry-baby and still on the team.

People really need to get together and work out a functional story together because this is downright silly.

the one that held out hasn't gone crying to the media about being unfairly treated. he has not broken off contact with the franchise. he went in like a man, talked to Pat and McDaniels and voiced how he felt. he has not gone into hiding and letting his agent talk for him, or ignoring the man who signs his checks. he isn't rocking the boat causing a major distraction for the rest of the team. he just stayed away from a 3 day mini camp as a sign that he is serious that he wants more money.

Marshall hasn't shown himself to be the cry-baby Cutler showed himself to be.

FireFly
07-11-2009, 05:48 PM
I'll buy that ... and who was making the point (and a great point it is) that as an RFA next year, another team would have to give up a 1st and 3rd to get him? So the bidding starts there, a 1st and 3rd ... and nobody's gonna pay that.

So yeah, the article is right: we do squat.

Wow, that is actually a hugely important point!

I didn't realise this, and so now more than ever I'd be against us moving him. I hope someone has spelt it out this clearly to Bowlen and McDaniels.

TheReverend
07-11-2009, 09:17 PM
the one that held out hasn't gone crying to the media about being unfairly treated. he has not broken off contact with the franchise. he went in like a man, talked to Pat and McDaniels and voiced how he felt. he has not gone into hiding and letting his agent talk for him, or ignoring the man who signs his checks. he isn't rocking the boat causing a major distraction for the rest of the team. he just stayed away from a 3 day mini camp as a sign that he is serious that he wants more money.

Marshall hasn't shown himself to be the cry-baby Cutler showed himself to be.

There's actually zero facts in that entire post, and a ridiculous amount of hear-say. Congratulations.

BroncoMan4ever
07-11-2009, 11:42 PM
There's actually zero facts in that entire post, and a ridiculous amount of hear-say. Congratulations.

well let's see about that. Marshall came in on the 1st day of his holdout and talked to his bosses. he hasn't been crying to the media, while on the other hand Cutler cried like a bitch to the media, and finally went and pouted and gave the silent treatment until he got his way.

TheReverend
07-12-2009, 12:13 AM
well let's see about that. Marshall came in on the 1st day of his holdout and talked to his bosses. he hasn't been crying to the media, while on the other hand Cutler cried like a b**** to the media, and finally went and pouted and gave the silent treatment until he got his way.

Thanks for proving my point with more of the same...

McDman
07-12-2009, 01:35 AM
He can play his ASS off, get great stats and still be a huge distraction for the team... e.g. T.O. e.g. Chad Johnson.

There I fixed it for you.

I'm just messing around.

I think the difference between him being a distraction and Cutler being a distraction is the fact that Cutler would have been the leader of the team. If the leader is a malcontent then the whole team suffers.

rastaman
07-12-2009, 08:06 AM
**** that! let him be a punk b**** for a year, he has to come in and play his ass off for us anyway if he wants his FA money. he can't afford to sit out and hope teams will throw money at him for being a distraction on and off the field. he has to get to camp show what he can do on the field, and stay out of trouble to get his money.

and if he doesn't want to be here, so be it. we get all we can for him for 1 more year, and next offseason tender him at a 1st and 3rd and get all we can for him. if next season we can get a 1st and 3rd for him, we can't trade him now for anything less.

i say stand firm with him, make him realize he has no option but to show up, see how he handles himself with the new coach and system, see if he is staying out of trouble and if he is, by midseason offer him a new deal. if he refuses, say thanks for your service here, tender him 1st and 3rd next offseason and move on.

Both sides will need to stand firm in my honest opinion. Except, MBarsh must get into camp to rehab his hip and so he can recover as much as his 09 salary as possible. After thats done....Denver is still back at square one. Just b/c a player returns after holding out doesn't equate to that player feelilng he's a part of the team. It doesn't mean the fans will see a return to Marshall's 07 & 08 performances. It doesnt mean that Brandon won't be a problem in the locker room. I'm afraid the problem btwn Bmarsh and the Brocos will only fester and worsen whether he's in camp, in uniform and starting or if he holds out. When a relationship ends.......it ends. You can prolong the realationship but that doesn't say its a healthy productive relationship.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
07-12-2009, 12:27 PM
The Denver Broncos aren't sure what happens next with wide receiver Brandon Marshall. He skipped a mandatory minicamp, wants a new contract and once told local police he has as much affection for Denver as Al Davis does for Mike Shanahan. Moreover, Marshall's agent said the disgruntled star wants out and that the Broncos will try to accommodate him.

There is something wrong with this picture. This is not about doing what is best for Brandon Marshall. This is about doing what is best for the Denver Broncos.

And what is best for Denver is nothing. You heard me. Squat. The Broncos don't make a move here because there is no decision to make.

I don't care if Marshall is unhappy. I don't care if he doesn't like the new coaching staff. I don't give a flip whether he doesn't report to training camp, demands to be traded or doesn't play a down this season. What I do care about is the 52 other guys who fill the Broncos' roster, and so should new coach Josh McDaniels.

That's why this one is a no-brainer. If the organization caves in and gives Marshall what he wants -- which, I imagine, is a one-way ticket out of town -- every malcontent, every guy who isn't starting and every El demando who doesn't get his way will want the same thing, citing Marshall and Jay Cutler as role models.

Cutler was the Broncos' starting quarterback until he demanded a trade. Denver complied, and he's now the starting quarterback in Chicago. Fine. Denver decided it wanted someone it could trust at the most important position, and that someone was not Cutler. So it traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks.

I guess Marshall figured if he complained loud enough he might get the same treatment. But Marshall doesn't play the most important position on the team, and Marshall isn't the guy the rest of the club looks to for direction. If he were, there would be a traffic jam at the security checkpoints at Denver International.

Anyway, my point is this: Keeping Marshall has less to do with what he gives the Broncos on the field than the reverberations his exit could make with the rest of the team. San Diego general manager A.J. Smith is fond of saying that players and agents don't run clubs; owners, general managers and coaches do. And he is more than willing to offer a demonstration to anyone bold enough to challenge him.

Read the rest here:

http://www.cbssports.com/print/nfl/story/11934745

you know what funny. it should have been the other way around.

BroncoMan4ever
07-12-2009, 12:38 PM
Both sides will need to stand firm in my honest opinion. Except, MBarsh must get into camp to rehab his hip and so he can recover as much as his 09 salary as possible. After thats done....Denver is still back at square one. Just b/c a player returns after holding out doesn't equate to that player feelilng he's a part of the team. It doesn't mean the fans will see a return to Marshall's 07 & 08 performances. It doesnt mean that Brandon won't be a problem in the locker room. I'm afraid the problem btwn Bmarsh and the Brocos will only fester and worsen whether he's in camp, in uniform and starting or if he holds out. When a relationship ends.......it ends. You can prolong the realationship but that doesn't say its a healthy productive relationship.


i agree completely. it's why i feel there are only 2 logical scenarios that can play out in the situation. we make him come to play for us this season, and he will play hard since it is a contract year. and later in the season we run the idea of a new deal by him. if he is interested we lock him up long term. if he isn't we tender him with a 1st and 3rd next offseason and wish him well