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tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 12:23 PM
im trying to take the following things and make them portable:
1. set of 2 car speakers or any other speakers that i can build into a box
2. ipod jack/plugin
3. wahtever powers these two

so i can make them useful wherever i need them, and it has to be small. i cant find anything that will play car speakers portably...

im also looking at buying battery powered speakers and tearing tehm open and building it into the table, would that work?

broncosteven
07-08-2009, 12:28 PM
im trying to take the following things and make them portable:
1. set of 2 car speakers or any other speakers that i can build into a box
2. ipod jack/plugin
3. wahtever powers these two

so i can make them useful wherever i need them, and it has to be small. i cant find anything that will play car speakers portably...

im also looking at buying battery powered speakers and tearing tehm open and building it into the table, would that work?

Search the Homebrew websites, or post on one, someone has to have a solution for this, especially city dwellers.

Beantown Bronco
07-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Anyone god?

When someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!


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Popps
07-08-2009, 12:29 PM
So, there are a ton of portable iPod/iPhone speaker sets out there. That's not what you're looking for?

What is your ultimate goal with this?

chadta
07-08-2009, 12:53 PM
your going to need an amp, so youll need to wire battery power, ground, remote turn on, all the other wiring can be internal, but im not sure what you really want to do.



best bet would be to get a new deck that has an ipod input , so that it can play directly out of the car stereo, rather then try to re invent the wheel.


if you clarify exactly what it is you want to do maybe i can help more

Boobs McGee
07-08-2009, 02:43 PM
your going to need an amp, so youll need to wire battery power, ground, remote turn on, all the other wiring can be internal, but im not sure what you really want to do.



best bet would be to get a new deck that has an ipod input , so that it can play directly out of the car stereo, rather then try to re invent the wheel.


if you clarify exactly what it is you want to do maybe i can help more

all of this, AND

tell us what kind of car speakers you have, what kind of space you need, budget, etc etc.

If you're just lookin to make a boombox that plugs in, that's one thing. If this is something you want totally self sufficient (with some kind of a battery), that's a different story.

Do you need a display?

What kind of controls do you want?

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 02:47 PM
im building this into my new portable beer pong table. this isnt for a car, but i DO want to use a car deck installed on hte table, i just dont know how to power it.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 03:18 PM
figured it out, i need a small atv battery or something, hook the yellow and red wires to the positive and the black wires to the negative with a switch for the red wire. then wire up the speakers...

oubronco
07-08-2009, 03:49 PM
Anyone god?

When someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!


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Ha Ha I was thinking the same thing

DomCasual
07-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Well, I have electronics and a car stereo. As for the other part...

I'd say yes!

Boobs McGee
07-08-2009, 05:18 PM
figured it out, i need a small atv battery or something, hook the yellow and red wires to the positive and the black wires to the negative with a switch for the red wire. then wire up the speakers...

Exactly. Don't know if you're going to be using this outdoors or not...but if it's gonna be an indoor thing (or somewhere with a plug), you might consister a converter (110 to 12v) so you're not always running the battery.

Also, if you're using it outdoors, try to build some kind of a waterproof case for it, like a plexiglass stand or marine audio-style cover.

Lastly, for the speakers, if you're building them INTO the table (assuming you're going to be facing them up), you can build some small boxes for them that screw into the table itself. Maybe even some baffling for better sound. Doesn't need to be too huge, but if you get me the speaker types I can find you some diagrams for optimum sound.

You plannin on using 6x9's?

keep us posted with pics

Boobs McGee
07-08-2009, 05:21 PM
p.s. I found a GREAT forum discussion on something that might work pretty well for your situation.

check out the pics partway down the page.

All you'd really have to do is fabricate some boxes for your speakers, and come up with a charging system.

But they really delve deep into ohm capacities with a battery setup, and HIS deck is encased with a marine deck stand. You wouldn't have to go that extreme, but again, if your outdoors, it could be a great idea. Plexiglass with hinges would be fine IMO.


http://community.crutchfield.com/forums/p/7550/34149.aspx

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 05:26 PM
this will be outdoors pretty much exclusively, im hoping it is truly portable (going to cut table in half, add hinging legs and hinge the middle with a handle on opposide side so i can carry it)

the speakers will be permanently built into the table. im not gonna make it work with a plug because id like to use it for tailgating, if i was gonna use a plug i wouldnt use a head unit, prolly some other sort of CD player and powered speakers (would be far easier too)

thats the major problem here, making it functional AND portable.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 05:47 PM
**** it, i will probably just put legs on this one and make it simply a beer pong table that has an a ball holder.

i have great ideas for another table though, i think speakers are unnecessary for an indoor table as my surround sound is far better, however id like to have an LED that displays the winning streak on the side, maybe LED strips along the outside edge.

broncosteven
07-08-2009, 06:54 PM
**** it, i will probably just put legs on this one and make it simply a beer pong table that has an a ball holder.

i have great ideas for another table though, i think speakers are unnecessary for an indoor table as my surround sound is far better, however id like to have an LED that displays the winning streak on the side, maybe LED strips along the outside edge.

Get an Arduino computer, some LED's, some senors for the cups.

Cut holes for the LEDS next to each cup, put weight sensors under each cup based on weight of the ball, program the Arduino to activate the LED's for each cup when the weight = the ball.

That would be cool and fun to program.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 06:59 PM
Get an Arduino computer, some LED's, some senors for the cups.

Cut holes for the LEDS next to each cup, put weight sensors under each cup based on weight of the ball, program the Arduino to activate the LED's for each cup when the weight = the ball.

That would be cool and fun to program.

thats waht i was thinking of earlier, however instead of winning streak it would say balls remaining and automatically count down. the LEDs would light up the side, 10% more for each ball until they are all made when they would light. but that would take someone far smarter than me to progra.

broncosteven
07-08-2009, 07:03 PM
thats waht i was thinking of earlier, however instead of winning streak it would say balls remaining and automatically count down. the LEDs would light up the side, 10% more for each ball until they are all made when they would light. but that would take someone far smarter than me to progra.

If you have visio you can map out the flow, figure what you want it to do then start a thread on a homebrew board, I bet there is someone out there living in their parents basement desperate to prove their life is not an empty sham and will do this for you.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 07:09 PM
If you have visio you can map out the flow, figure what you want it to do then start a thread on a homebrew board, I bet there is someone out there living in their parents basement desperate to prove their life is not an empty sham and will do this for you.

well this table wont be for awhile. my NES controller table in my garage is just waiting to be finished and i want to make it portable i think soooo

also, on my new table, it will be bronco themed, LEDs will outlay the bronco in the middle of the table which will hopefully beat with music, plexiglass top, built in beer cooler or ball washer, some other things ive been thinking of.

broncosteven
07-08-2009, 07:15 PM
well this table wont be for awhile. my NES controller table in my garage is just waiting to be finished and i want to make it portable i think soooo

also, on my new table, it will be bronco themed, LEDs will outlay the bronco in the middle of the table which will hopefully beat with music, plexiglass top, built in beer cooler or ball washer, some other things ive been thinking of.

Have you seen the show MAKE on PBS?

http://makezine.com/tv/

Fun stuff, I ordered a 2nd hand book on 1 wire Weather station hacks. Then I saw this show.

It was on Lakeview PBS at 9:30 on Mondays, It is channel 14 for me on Comcast.

chadta
07-08-2009, 07:46 PM
use a deep cycle marine battery, and all marine equipment, as its all water proof, the deep cycle battery would take the total draining better then a normal battery which will be punched if you totally drain it a few times.

and if you had a small plc and a couple of prox sensors you could make it flash lights when you got it into the cups, the tricky part would be setting the sensors for the exact type of beer and amount, unless you used inductive sensors with steel balls.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 07:48 PM
use a deep cycle marine battery, and all marine equipment, as its all water proof, the deep cycle battery would take the total draining better then a normal battery which will be punched if you totally drain it a few times.

and if you had a small plc and a couple of prox sensors you could make it flash lights when you got it into the cups, the tricky part would be setting the sensors for the exact type of beer and amount, unless you used inductive sensors with steel balls.

a deep cycle marine battery is far too big..

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 08:10 PM
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tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 08:10 PM
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DBroncos4life
07-08-2009, 08:22 PM
im building this into my new portable beer pong table. this isnt for a car, but i DO want to use a car deck installed on hte table, i just dont know how to power it.
Damn I may have found a reason to like you.

DBroncos4life
07-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Man I think your best bet would be to rig a iPod docking station onto the table somehow. If I'm guessing right you are wanting to get some pretty loud music out of it though right? I really can't see how you are going to get it portable with the car stereo, amps, and speakers with box. Lots of car stereo brands make docking stations like kicker, JBL, and bose.
http://www.outdoorspeakers.us/4-13996491-B0019DKOVW-Kicker_ZK500_Zune_Speaker_Dock_Black.html
http://www.outdoorspeakers.us/4-13996491-B001DLTDQC-Bose_SoundDock_Series_II_digital_music_system_for_ iPod_Black.html

I think it would be easier to rig one of those under the table. You could even make a small hole in the table so and plug in the dock connector so the iPod is easier to use.

I too have lots of ideas on tables. The one I really want to build would be connected to a drain and a keg. I want it to have drains on the side for the people that spill beer for easier clean up. Just wipe it off to the side and away the beer goes down the drain.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 08:44 PM
nah i want it to be all portable, not just drop a docking station on top, thats boring. right now im looking for a way to flush mount 2.0 computer speakers into it, powering them with as small a battery as possible and connecting an ipod to it through the computer jack. doesnt have to be stupid loud, but good enough for people to hear.

DBroncos4life
07-08-2009, 08:58 PM
I don't know try a battery from a go cart or a power wheel but I don't know if that can power it.

tsiguy96
07-08-2009, 09:52 PM
how big are those?

DBroncos4life
07-08-2009, 10:31 PM
how big are those?

not big....

http://www.fisher-price.com/us/powerwheels/products.aspx?cat=pwheels_accessories

chadta
07-09-2009, 05:59 AM
power wheels batteries are about 2 inches wide, 4 deep and 4 tall, you could get some sort of industrial battery like this http://www.powerstream.com/bb/bp1.2-12.pdf its 3 inches by 2 by 2, weights 1.2 lbs. go to this page for the battery list http://www.powerstream.com/12-volt-index.htm its the BP1.2-12-T1, bouthalf way down the page

or you could just go with something like this http://www.powerstream.com/12-volt-index.htm that has a usb output built right into it, it would also look a little cleaner depending on where you put it, would make for easier hook ups forsure.

SleepingTiger
07-09-2009, 06:08 AM
why you want to use a card deck is beyond me. just use an ipod with an connection for rca out into a amp.

SportinOne
07-09-2009, 07:47 AM
Sweet ideas, but all of this for a damn beer pong table?

They used to say: "Think outside the box." I think a better phrase should be: "Think outside the beer pong and bags tables."

tsiguy96
07-09-2009, 08:01 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836157007

think i could use this? should be able to take apart hte speakers and install them onto the table. im not sure how big that sub is, but may be too big, unless i could take it apart and turn the bass all the way down and basically use it as the amp...any ideas?

tsiguy96
07-09-2009, 08:07 PM
why you want to use a card deck is beyond me. just use an ipod with an connection for rca out into a amp.

post some links online of which i should buy! im pretty good at making **** work just need to know WHAT to buy. i wanted to use a car deck because it will be far louder than comp speakers i think and because i dont know how to wire an amp or anything to speakers....

tsiguy96
07-09-2009, 08:28 PM
http://www.yonies.com/pidD.asp?chk=1&PID=2422&manf=Pyle&model=PLMRA400&prd=Marine+Amplifier&lv1=Electronics&lv2=Marine+Audio&lv3=Marine+Amplifiers&rf=frg

would this work? get an ipod-RCA input for it, what kind of speakers can i wire up though? reason i want to use car speakers is i can get them cheap/free....