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Bronco Rob
07-06-2009, 12:34 PM
There were 11 head coaching changes amongst the 32 NFL teams since the end of the 2008 season. Although that number is higher than the norm, there will likely be several head coaching changes following the 2009 season. We are going to rank which seats are the hottest amongst the 32 current NFL head coaches.


Win or Else


1.) Wade Phillips, Dallas Cowboys- Phillips’ 2008 Cowboys were one of the biggest underachievers in the NFL last season as a team that was loaded with talent was seemingly torn apart by horrible chemistry. Owner Jerry Jones gave Phillips a pass, but if he doesn’t end the Cowboys now 12-year playoff victory drought in January, he will likely be looking for employment elsewhere.


2.) Jim Zorn, Washington Redskins- Redskins owner Dan Snyder wants to win, but seemingly has no idea how. There were issues last season with Zorn and his players, proving to many that Zorn wasn’t ready to be a head coach. Another last-place finish, which is extremely likely, will probably seal Jim Zorn’s fate.


3.) Tom Cable, Oakland Raiders- Tom Cable became the Raiders head coach almost by default, as there were few qualified candidates that would even take a call from Al Davis. The Raiders have some talent, and their division isn’t the toughest, but we expect the commitment to excrement to continue and Cable to be but a footnote in the long line of Raiders head coaching failures.


4.) Gary Kubiak, Houston Texans- Kubiak’s Texans are yet to achieve their first winning season in franchise history and his 2009 squad is loaded with talent on both sides of the ball. The only way he survives another 8-8 finish would be if major injuries occur to the team’s bevy of stars.


5.) Brad Childress, Minnesota Vikings- Childress is another in the situation of “win or go home.” Childress has the game’s best running back and defensive line, and the inevitable signing of Brett Favre makes this a playoff win or bust season.


6.) Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos- Has any head coach done more damage to a team before he coached a single game? McDaniels alienated Jay Cutler, the best quarterback Denver’s had since John Elway, forcing him to be traded, and will likely send away another Pro Bowler in Brandon Marshall. A nightmare of an offseason will likely turn into a nightmare of a regular season as this team is far from fit to compete.


7.) Norv Turner, San Diego Chargers- Turner’s Chargers are healthy and loaded with talent, and anything less than a division title and playoff run could cost Norv his employment. Remember, this is the team that fired a head coach that went 14-2.


Must Show Improvement


8.) Mike Singletary, San Francisco 49ers- Singletary was a fantastic football player, but he has accomplished very little as a head coach if you don’t count leading the league in pants-dropping halftime speeches. Without anything close to a legitimate quarterback on the roster, it is likely that the 49ers will struggle again.


9.) Dick Jauron, Buffalo Bills- Jauron took a leap of faith in acquiring Terrell Owens and although Owens is usually good for the first year, things could get sideways quickly and Jauron could lose control of his team. The Bills haven’t been in the playoffs this millennium, and if that doesn’t change it could cost Jauron his job.


10.) Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals- Lewis is an engaging personality and his owner, Mike Brown, has stood by him through thick and mostly thin. Lewis however, is entering his seventh season as head coach, all with a franchise quarterback, and has had just one winning season and no playoff victories


Tenuous


11.) Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars- Many believe that Jack Del Rio should be higher on this list, and perhaps he deserves to be with his team’s meltdowns in big games, and his yearly battles with veteran stars. That said, Del Rio has had just two losing season in his six-year tenure, and the Jaguars are rebuilding. The economy is poor and it’s doubtful that owner Wayne Weaver will want to pay two head coaches to lead just one mediocre team that struggles to sell tickets.


12.) John Fox, Carolina Panthers- Although Fox has been mostly successful as a head coach, he is yet to lead his team to consecutive playoff appearances, or even consecutive winning seasons. Following a division title in 2008, expectations are high in Charlotte, and if the team falters, Fox could be held responsible.


13.) Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers- Although we feel it was the right move to move on with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback, the team’s win-loss record says otherwise. If the Packers struggle again in 2009, general manager Ted Thompson could “C.H.O.A.” by dismissing his head coach.


14.) Jim Caldwell, Indianapolis Colts- Although Jim Caldwell is in his first year as head coach, he takes over a Colts team that has won 12 games for an NFL record six consecutive seasons. Excellence is expected in Indianapolis and an 8-8 season may make Caldwell one-and-done.


15.) Lovie Smith, Chicago Bears- Bears ownership has never seemed enamored with Lovie Smith, even after he led the team to the Super Bowl in 2006. Since that Super Bowl appearance, Chicago hasn’t sniffed the playoffs and if that continues this year, Smith could be out of work.




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gyldenlove
07-06-2009, 12:58 PM
I would say that list isn't really that good.

Must win category:

Wade Philips, Norv Turner, Tom Cable, Brad Childress, Dick Jauron and Lovie Smith.

Philips has to put some wins on the board, there is a limit to how long Jerry is going to accept not having any playoff success, especially with Shanahan and Cowher on the unemployed list. Turner is one 1st round playoff loss from being fired, if he hadn't gotten San Diego to the championship game he would have been out of here already. If you don't win in Oakland you get fired, so Cable is probably going to get fired. Childress has to win, he has a ton of talent on the roster, if they throw a ton of cash at Favre the pressure is going to be on. Jauron has gotten a ton of expensive players to Buffalo, they have to show some return. Smith made a big gamble on Cutler, if it is doesn't pay off, Chicago could be looking at either losing a player they gave up a pair of 1st round picks for or having to sign a QB to one of the biggest contracts in history who is not winning games, either way I don't think either is palatable.

Should probably win:

Jim Zorn, Gary Kubiak, Marvin Lewis, Jack Del Rio.

Zorn gets the benefit of having revamped the way the Redskins do business and being in a super tough division, but anything below 8-8 is probably not enough. Kubiak has taken the Texans from bottomfeeders to playoff outsiders, now he has to make them insiders. Lewis has had a remarkable run of mediocrity in Cincinnati, if he doesn't show some serious results it will be over. Del Rio needs another winning season and playoff appearance or he could be shed as dead weight.

There is no way Mcdaniels is on the hot seat unless the team really tanks (which I believe is the case for any HC), Bowlen showed that he is not going to side against his HC.

BroncoMan4ever
07-06-2009, 01:19 PM
give me a break. do these media retards not learn facts before they report this stupid ****? Cutler is the one who cried his way out of Denver. Marshall is the one who is holding out for more money. There has yet to be a bad situation this season that came about because of McDaniels.

Hercules Rockefeller
07-06-2009, 01:32 PM
How many times does it have to be said that Bowlen is not going to pay 3 head coaches at the same time in '10 (Shanahan, McDaniels, and McD's replacement)? It's not happening. For better or worse, McDaniels is going to be this team's coach for a couple of seasons. Anyone putting McDaniels on the hot seat already has no understanding of the financial aspect of another coaching move.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-06-2009, 01:39 PM
it still annoys the ****ing hell out of me that people blame McD for doing something EVERY NFL HEAD COACH AND FRONT OFFICE person does. Jay Cutler acted like a ****ing child. Alienating him my ass. Act like a ****ing adult. ****, people are so goddamn dense

BroncoBuff
07-06-2009, 01:46 PM
How many times does it have to be said that Bowlen is not going to pay 3 head coaches at the same time in '10 (Shanahan, McDaniels, and McD's replacement)? It's not happening. For better or worse, McDaniels is going to be this team's coach for a couple of seasons. Anyone putting McDaniels on the hot seat already has no understanding of the financial aspect of another coaching move.

Agreed ... and not just because of money.

We simply have to spot Josh '09. This mess is not entirely his fault, Jay and Brandon are not entirely his fault. And he did step into the worst defensive situation in the league.

We should spot him '09 and maybe 2010 too. Luckily, Pat's temperament will give him some time.

BroncoBuff
07-06-2009, 01:47 PM
people are so goddamn dense

Is everyone who disagrees with you "dense"? hmmm...

SonOfLe-loLang
07-06-2009, 01:51 PM
Is everyone who disagrees with you "dense"? hmmm...

No, but dismissing cutler's actions simply as McDaniels' fault is dense. So yes, if people actually think that, they are dense.

Tombstone RJ
07-06-2009, 01:54 PM
Unless McD has this team at least competing every game and probably winning 50% of the time, the national media is going to say he's on the hotseat.

The national media kept claiming Shanny was close to being fired (pre Cutler) for whatever reason and then when it actually happened, the national media was shocked by it.

Point being, unless you've won a SB or two in the last 5 years, as far as the media is concerned, your job is up for grabs.

worm
07-06-2009, 02:07 PM
There has yet to be a bad situation this season that came about because of McDaniels.

LOL.

BroncoMan4ever
07-06-2009, 02:25 PM
LOL.

think about it. he blew up the defense which was necessary. replaced almost the entire staff. his questionable moves were the Cutler situation(which was Jay's fault) the Marshall situation(which is Marshall wanting more money) and switching Leach with Paxton(and that is understandable based on comfort level with players you already know)

broncofan2438
07-06-2009, 03:33 PM
What about our buddy MCD? Hes on the hottest seat ever. He aint sitn down and his ass is on fire. He could be in the water and his ass would still be on fire

broncocalijohn
07-06-2009, 03:38 PM
What about our buddy MCD? Hes on the hottest seat ever. He aint sitn down and his ass is on fire. He could be in the water and his ass would still be on fire

maybe you can read the article and see his name under hot seat as Josh McDaniel. Maybe you were looking under Satan or any other lame name givien to him by those here at the Mane. I dont see how the author blames him for the BM mess as his beef was way before he even got to town.

Garcia Bronco
07-06-2009, 03:43 PM
maybe you can read the article and see his name under hot seat as Josh McDaniel. Maybe you were looking under Satan or any other lame name givien to him by those here at the Mane. I dont see how the author blames him for the BM mess as his beef was way before he even got to town.

And so was Cutler's when you get down to where the rubber meets the road. He wanted Bates to stay. Bowlen made no promises about that.

footstepsfrom#27
07-06-2009, 04:31 PM
Ha ha...another Cutler thread...adios amigos.

Gcver2ver3
07-06-2009, 04:45 PM
it amazes me how unimpressive "sports experts" are...

exactly what "damage" is he referring to?...trading Cutler the crybaby?...

we got two 1st rounders and a starting QB outta the deal for crying out loud...that's "damage"?...

every "expert" just piles on to what they hear until that then becomes the majority opinion...it's embarrassing...

if they actually stopped to truly analyze a situation, they might actually come up with an original and informed thought that makes sense...

oh well...

cutthemdown
07-06-2009, 05:25 PM
Mcdaniels gets at least 2 yrs, probably 3 before he will be fired. I guess if it was 0-16 then 1-15, then yeah lol. But more likely we get 6-10 then maybe 9-7 and thats enough to get a 3rd yr to see what happens.

broncofan2438
07-06-2009, 05:34 PM
maybe you can read the article and see his name under hot seat as Josh McDaniel. Maybe you were looking under Satan or any other lame name givien to him by those here at the Mane. I dont see how the author blames him for the BM mess as his beef was way before he even got to town.

My bad, my bad...I was thinking his name should be #1 on the list.

cutthemdown
07-06-2009, 06:13 PM
I miss Shanny as much as the next fan. I mean we were nothing before Shanny came to Denver. As for Cutler, I won't miss him unless he does really well in Chicago!!!!!!! Or Orton does really, really bad.

elsid13
07-06-2009, 06:18 PM
Mcdaniels gets at least 2 yrs, probably 3 before he will be fired. I guess if it was 0-16 then 1-15, then yeah lol. But more likely we get 6-10 then maybe 9-7 and thats enough to get a 3rd yr to see what happens.

If we get a new QB next year, I would expect a couple more years. I expect about 4 to 6 year run.

BroncoBuff
07-06-2009, 06:23 PM
No, but dismissing cutler's actions simply as McDaniels' fault is dense. So yes, if people actually think that, they are dense.

It was more Jay than Josh, no doubt about that.

So .... I'm not dense now?

elsid13
07-06-2009, 06:23 PM
I miss Shanny as much as the next fan. I mean we were nothing before Shanny came to Denver. As for Cutler, I won't miss him unless he does really well in Chicago!!!!!!! Or Orton does really, really bad.

I predict that Chris Simms will be the most popular player in Denver next season.

BroncoBuff
07-06-2009, 06:26 PM
I predict that Chris Simms will be the most popular player in Denver next season.

I like him already ;D

DBroncos4life
07-06-2009, 06:28 PM
I predict that Chris Simms will be the most popular player in Denver next season.

Major Applewhite was ten times the QB Simms ever could have been.

elsid13
07-06-2009, 06:29 PM
Major Applewhite was ten times the QB Simms ever could have been.

The old major isn't our Back-up QB

DBroncos4life
07-06-2009, 06:34 PM
The old major isn't our Back-up QB

I'm sure McD called him, Major was a former Pat.

That was a joke by the way.....

oubronco
07-06-2009, 06:42 PM
I predict that Chris Simms will be the most popular player in Denver next season.

I predict neither Simms or Orton will be with this team in 2-3 yrs

Los Broncos
07-06-2009, 06:46 PM
The marshmallow with a headset should of been out already IMO.

watermock
07-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Bowlen should fire all the writers.

DBroncos4life
07-06-2009, 08:18 PM
Bowlen should fire all the writers.

The Broncos have the writers right where they want them in this not losing popularity race.

DeuceOfClub
07-06-2009, 08:43 PM
"Cable Guy" will be fired before week 7.

FireFly
07-07-2009, 12:23 AM
1.) Wade Phillips, Dallas Cowboys- Fair enough


2.) Jim Zorn, Washington Redskins- Fair enough

3.) Tom Cable, Oakland Raiders- I don't think this is the case? Not in the normal sense anyhow. He might do alright and still lose his job, but they're out of replacements aren't they?


4.) Gary Kubiak, Houston Texans- It's a pretty tough division but his seat might be a little warm, he's had some time.


5.) Brad Childress, Minnesota Vikings- No QB! Farve is not the solution either! But... he could have made moves to bring one in and didn't so his seat is warm as well imo.

6.) Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos- IMO, only hot because of the media and maybe the fans. Bowlen will stand by him win or lose this season.

7.) Norv Turner, San Diego Chargers- If he wins the division and one playoff game I think he'll be safe.



10.) Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals- They need to show something this year. He's had a long time to turn this team around and hasn't. He's been given more time than most.

11.) Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars- His seat probably should be hot


12.) John Fox, Carolina Panthers- He'll be safe

13.) Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers- He'll get another year or two.


14.) Jim Caldwell, Indianapolis Colts- He's not going to lose his job after a single season imo.


15.) Lovie Smith, Chicago Bears- If they tank this year he could find himself in big trouble. Some good wins will go a long way for Lovie.

BroncoBuff
07-07-2009, 01:59 AM
Shanahan could step in for the Cowboys or even the Bears.

Don't we play the NFC North in 2010?

fdf
07-07-2009, 04:07 AM
It was more Jay than Josh, no doubt about that.

So .... I'm not dense now?

Think that gets you to more un-dense than dense. :)

BroncoMan4ever
07-07-2009, 04:11 AM
I predict neither Simms or Orton will be with this team in 2-3 yrs

i'd be willing to make a small wager that Orton is our starting QB for the next few years.

Rabb
07-07-2009, 08:41 AM
how is the Marshall thing a McDaniels doing?

gyldenlove
07-07-2009, 12:06 PM
how is the Marshall thing a McDaniels doing?

It isn't, but something like that never looks good on a HC.

Bronco Rob
07-08-2009, 08:17 AM
1.) Wade Phillips, Dallas Cowboys- Fair enough


2.) Jim Zorn, Washington Redskins- Fair enough

3.) Tom Cable, Oakland Raiders- I don't think this is the case? Not in the normal sense anyhow. He might do alright and still lose his job, but they're out of replacements aren't they?


4.) Gary Kubiak, Houston Texans- It's a pretty tough division but his seat might be a little warm, he's had some time.


5.) Brad Childress, Minnesota Vikings- No QB! Farve is not the solution either! But... he could have made moves to bring one in and didn't so his seat is warm as well imo.

6.) Josh McDaniels, Denver Broncos- IMO, only hot because of the media and maybe the fans. Bowlen will stand by him win or lose this season.

7.) Norv Turner, San Diego Chargers- If he wins the division and one playoff game I think he'll be safe.



10.) Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals- They need to show something this year. He's had a long time to turn this team around and hasn't. He's been given more time than most.

11.) Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars- His seat probably should be hot


12.) John Fox, Carolina Panthers- He'll be safe

13.) Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers- He'll get another year or two.


14.) Jim Caldwell, Indianapolis Colts- He's not going to lose his job after a single season imo.


15.) Lovie Smith, Chicago Bears- If they tank this year he could find himself in big trouble. Some good wins will go a long way for Lovie.










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