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oubronco
06-27-2009, 07:20 PM
I guess McD see's Larsen the same way Shanny did and I'm finding hard to think Moss makes the team with all the other LB's on the roster

Inside Slant

--The Denver Broncos already lost quarterback Jay Cutler this offseason, so dealing another Pro Bowl offensive player is far from ideal. Receiver Brandon Marshall wants to be dealt, but the Broncos don't appear in a rush to accommodate that wish.

That could lead to more drama for a team that has had its share this offseason. Marshall could hold out of training camp, creating a distraction.
Marshall would also fall behind in learning the new offense and working with new quarterback Kyle Orton, which would hurt the team on the field. Marshall hasn't practiced at all this offseason because of hip surgery.

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said he's willing to go with the receivers that are willing to play for him, which he might have to do if Marshall digs in and doesn't report to the Broncos for a while.

OFFSEASON STANDOUT: Tight end Tony Scheffler started his offseason wondering what his role was with the team. As OTA practices went on, it became very apparent that McDaniels will find a big role for him. The Patriots weren't tight-end friendly with McDaniels calling plays, but Scheffler is the kind of talent McDaniels has to utilize. He is fast and has great hands, and is a matchup problem for most teams. Also, Scheffler had a healthy offseason, and could have a breakout year if he avoids injuries this season.

LINEUP WATCH: The Broncos are set in the middle of the defense with Andra Davis and D.J. Williams holding the inside linebacker spots. On the outside, it's a little tougher to project, especially since the team decided to move on without Boss Bailey, who was coming off major knee surgery and was released.

Most of the best options - Elvis Dumervil, Darrell Reid, Tim Crowder and rookie Robert Ayers - are natural 4-3 defensive linemen making the adjustment to playing standing up. Ayers spent most of the latter part of the minicamp practices at outside linebacker and not end, but the coaching staff plans to use him in both spots.

ROOKIE IMPRESSIONS: While Knowshon Moreno was running behind LaMont Jordan and Correll Buckhalter for the offseason practices, the Broncos will use the 12th overall pick of the draft often this season. His exact role is uncertain - McDaniels liked to use a full committee in New England with many backs providing different looks - but he has shown he has the ability to play in the NFL. As soon as he shows a veteran-like command of the playbook, he should move quickly up the depth chart.

INJURY WATCH: Although all eyes are on Marshall and his potential holdout, he is still recovering from hip surgery. The team hopes he would be physically ready to go by the start of training camp, but they haven't had a chance to test it out. If the team decides not to trade Marshall, and Marshall comes to camp, his health will bear watching.

CONTRACT TO WATCH: The main issue Denver has before training camp will be with Marshall, but the Broncos also have two first-round picks to sign. Denver has never had two first-round picks in team history. There will be a challenge to get Moreno and Ayers both signed before the first practices. The Broncos have had a great track record getting their draft picks into camp on time, but that was under the old regime.



Notes and Quotes
--Denver claimed receiver C.J. Jones off waivers. Jones spent time with Cleveland in 2003 and with New England in 2008, with current Broncos coach Josh McDaniels. The team could be stocking up on depth in light of Brandon Marshall's potential training camp holdout.

--Broncos center Casey Wiegmann is one of four NFL players to play for Ed Thomas, the legendary Iowa high school football coach at Aplington-Parkersburg who was tragically shot and killed on June 24. Wiegmann released a statement through the team talking about Thomas.
"I was extremely saddened to hear the news this morning about the passing of Coach Ed Thomas," Wiegmann said. "He was a great Christian man. I learned a lot from him, both as a player and a man."

--Spencer Larsen, who played fullback and linebacker for the Broncos last season, started the offseason getting a lot of reps at linebacker, but spent much of the latter part of the team's camps at fullback. He should provide depth on both sides of the ball for the Broncos.

--Jarvis Moss, the team's 2007 first-round pick, has been working at outside linebacker but didn't get much practice time with the first two units this offseason. Moss, a natural 4-3 end, might need to make an impression in training camp to get off the roster bubble.
QUOTE TO NOTE: "I cannot begin to count the number of lives he affected in this community. I know I carry many of the lessons I learned from him with me every day. My family and I pray for Coach Thomas' family." - Wiegmann, on the shooting of Thomas, his high-school coach.



Strategy and Personnel
The Broncos signed the first of their 10 draft picks, TCU center Blake Schlueter, a seventh-round pick, in early June. Aside from trying to come to a resolution on Brandon Marshall's situation, the team's biggest issue before training camp will be hammering out deals with all of their draft picks.

Denver will also keep an eye on the waiver wire. The Broncos claimed receiver C.J. Jones off waivers on June 24, showing they're still working to reshape the roster. Denver would have to consider any help on the defensive line or at linebacker, but impact players aren't easy to find on the street during the summer.

Punisher
06-27-2009, 08:50 PM
--Spencer Larsen, who played fullback and linebacker for the Broncos last season, started the offseason getting a lot of reps at linebacker, but spent much of the latter part of the team's camps at fullback. He should provide depth on both sides of the ball for the Broncos.


Start Larsen!

McDman
06-27-2009, 09:27 PM
Start Larsen!

No, start Hillis.

Popps
06-27-2009, 11:53 PM
Great to hear Sheffler is making a good impression. He needs to stay on the field and put it all together this year.

HAT
06-28-2009, 12:13 AM
Great to hear Sheffler is making a good impression. He needs to stay on the field and put it all together this year.

Who are you kidding popps? Mcdipshiatdummy ia clearly trading him!

Maybe he can package him with Hillis for a 2012 3rd?

footstepsfrom#27
06-28-2009, 12:27 AM
Who are you kidding popps? Mcdipshiatdummy ia clearly trading him!

Maybe he can package him with Hillis for a 2012 3rd?
You guys really need to get some new schtick.

Kaylore
06-28-2009, 12:32 AM
You guys really need to get some new schtick.

So do you.

Popps
06-28-2009, 12:32 AM
Who are you kidding popps? Mcdipshiatdummy ia clearly trading him!

Maybe he can package him with Hillis for a 2012 3rd?

I'm hoping Hillis can pick everything up quickly enough to ne a big force for us. I'd like to see him splitting carries, but he'll likely be all over the place.

I can't wait to see this offense take shape.

BMarsh615
06-28-2009, 12:42 AM
Who are you kidding popps? Mcdipshiatdummy ia clearly trading him!

Maybe he can package him with Hillis for a 2012 3rd?

Scheffler won't have to demand a trade. He is a free agent next year.

footstepsfrom#27
06-28-2009, 12:45 AM
So do you.
I jumped off the merry-go-round weeks ago. Try to pay attention.

HAT
06-28-2009, 12:46 AM
Scheffler won't have to demand a trade. He is a free agent next year.


He won't have to....didn't you get the memo? McD is trading every Shanny holdover by the start of TC.

OrangeRising
06-28-2009, 01:28 AM
I'm curious why there's no mention of the progress of Wesley Woodyard at OLB. Everything I've been hearing and reading here would indicate the guy should earn a starters job this season.

Anyone heard anything new?

footstepsfrom#27
06-28-2009, 06:58 AM
I'm curious why there's no mention of the progress of Wesley Woodyard at OLB. Everything I've been hearing and reading here would indicate the guy should earn a starters job this season.

Anyone heard anything new?
I don't think he's going to start in the 3-4...at least it appears that way in the early going. Maybe once the pre-season games get here he forces his way into the lineup but they want guys 250-260 or more and he's well below that. It's really to bad because I think he's the only real playmaker we have that's tested at LB...DJ has shown he can make lots of tackles but there mostly downfield and he's better suited to a 4-3 anyway IMO. I suggested last year that Woodyard get a look at safety and of course he did...what?...1 or 2 games? That's not enough to find out if he can play the position. Maybe they experiment again...we'll see.

Popps
06-28-2009, 08:10 AM
I'm curious why there's no mention of the progress of Wesley Woodyard at OLB. Everything I've been hearing and reading here would indicate the guy should earn a starters job this season.

Anyone heard anything new?

Seems like WW is too talented not to earn a role. But, he's very undersized to be a 3-4 OLB. One other report did mention him as getting reps there in camp.

Los Broncos
06-28-2009, 12:12 PM
I'm hoping Hillis can pick everything up quickly enough to ne a big force for us. I'd like to see him splitting carries, but he'll likely be all over the place.

I can't wait to see this offense take shape.

August 14th.

BroncoBuff
06-28-2009, 02:22 PM
Seems like WW is too talented not to earn a role. But, he's very undersized to be a 3-4 OLB. One other report did mention him.

He's the same size as Al Wilson.

gyldenlove
06-28-2009, 02:25 PM
I'm curious why there's no mention of the progress of Wesley Woodyard at OLB. Everything I've been hearing and reading here would indicate the guy should earn a starters job this season.

Anyone heard anything new?

He has played with the 2nd package at ILB I think, I believe he is the backup to DJ Williams.

BroncoBuff
06-28-2009, 02:26 PM
--Denver claimed receiver C.J. Jones off waivers. Jones spent time with Cleveland in 2003 and with New England in 2008.

"The Lost Years of C.J. Jones"

Four years where?

montrose
06-28-2009, 06:58 PM
Great to hear Sheffler is making a good impression. He needs to stay on the field and put it all together this year.

I'm just not big on Scheffler, I know he's got talent but he seems too Shanahan-esque to me (finesse, aka soft). His bi*ching and moaning about the "#2 offense" last year really rubbed me the wrong way. That's the complete opposite mentality I want on these new Denver Broncos. I do see a value in using Tony to split the seams and even split him out wide if Marshall's gone - so hopefully Tony can win me back but as of now I wish we would've sent him packing along Jay.

broncosteven
06-28-2009, 07:48 PM
I'm just not big on Scheffler, I know he's got talent but he seems too Shanahan-esque to me (finesse, aka soft). His bi*ching and moaning about the "#2 offense" last year really rubbed me the wrong way. That's the complete opposite mentality I want on these new Denver Broncos. I do see a value in using Tony to split the seams and even split him out wide if Marshall's gone - so hopefully Tony can win me back but as of now I wish we would've sent him packing along Jay.

Sheff is a Crybaby bitch! Plus his drinking is bad for his Betus/makes him beat women.