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~Crash~
06-22-2009, 11:46 AM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d810e8dde/32-in-32-Denver-Broncos


Popps don't watch this your orange colored glasses will milt......Ha!

Popps
06-22-2009, 11:48 AM
Already posted, sir.

HEAV
06-22-2009, 01:22 PM
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Los Broncos
06-22-2009, 01:26 PM
We landed on the moon! LOL

crush17
06-22-2009, 01:34 PM
real sick repost bro!

colonelbeef
06-22-2009, 02:02 PM
He is 100% correct, the blind fluffers will attack the messenger but cannot fight the message.

colonelbeef
06-22-2009, 02:04 PM
Teams wins games, not 1 player by himself. Even Popps should be able to acknowledge this

gunns
06-22-2009, 02:25 PM
If our defense doesn't show up again none of that really matters.

meangene
06-22-2009, 02:58 PM
I don't know who is worse, or more ill-informed, Wilcocks or Jamie Douche. Neither one of them EVER does anything but hate on the Broncos in their who-can-talk-louder, bandwagon jumping rants.

theAPAOps5
06-22-2009, 03:12 PM
Teams wins games, not 1 player by himself. Even Popps should be able to acknowledge this

Thanks for making his point.

cutthemdown
06-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Broncos have too many question marks to be ranked very high.

Fact is new coaches usually get 2-3 yrs to turn around a team that has been missing playoffs.

Bronco fans are just going to have to be patient and trust the owner is going to work with new regime to bring a winner in.

It may take a yr or 2 to get bigger and stronger and implement Mcdaniels style into the Mile High City.

Wilcots makes some good points. Also though no one expected Harris to be as good as he is at RT, or Royal at WR etc. I'm hoping a few unexpected players emerge and I think they will.

Ayers and Moreno could end up helping right away.

Smiling Assassin27
06-22-2009, 03:30 PM
That was a completely manufactured piece. What I mean by that is that he picked out specifically bad throws by Orton to contrast with great throws by Cutler. This is silly. Orton made some good throws and Cutler made some god-awful ones, but Solomon didn't seem to care about those much.

Even on the first throw--a rollout, Cutler's rolling to his right while Orton rolls to the LEFT and has to throw against his body. Not the same situation, Solomon.

He even admits on the second throw that his wr comes back to the ball while orton's does not. Big difference, Solomon.

'Don't look at the won-loss records'. Just lost all credibility. Putting NO credence on won-loss is a joke. Some qb's find a way to win, some do not.

Next, Solomon says Orton is 'a smaller qb with a differnt body type'. What? Kyle orton: 6-4 220
Tom Brady: 6-4 224
Matt Cassel: 6-4 217

Folks, Solomon Wilcots just gave you the lazy man's scoop on Kyle Orton. Disgraceful.

colonelbeef
06-22-2009, 03:46 PM
Thanks for making his point.

His point is that Cutler has better stats across the board, including td/int ratio, yards, completion %, and is a far better QB right now and much more valuable as a player than Kyle Orton ever will be? Really?

How come he keeps using W/L as a way to compare the two then? Seems to fly in the face of football as a team concept. Actually, seems like people want to pin the W/L solely on Cutler in an asinine attempt at justifying the awful trade made this offseason.

Popps
06-22-2009, 03:55 PM
Thanks for making his point.

Colon Beef isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

crush17
06-22-2009, 03:56 PM
That was a completely manufactured piece. What I mean by that is that he picked out specifically bad throws by Orton to contrast with great throws by Cutler. This is silly. Orton made some good throws and Cutler made some god-awful ones, but Solomon didn't seem to care about those much.

Even on the first throw--a rollout, Cutler's rolling to his right while Orton rolls to the LEFT and has to throw against his body. Not the same situation, Solomon.

He even admits on the second throw that his wr comes back to the ball while orton's does not. Big difference, Solomon.

'Don't look at the won-loss records'. Just lost all credibility. Putting NO credence on won-loss is a joke. Some qb's find a way to win, some do not.

Next, Solomon says Orton is 'a smaller qb with a differnt body type'. What? Kyle orton: 6-4 220
Tom Brady: 6-4 224
Matt Cassel: 6-4 217

Folks, Solomon Wilcots just gave you the lazy man's scoop on Kyle Orton. Disgraceful.


Great post. Sums up my thoughts on that piece perfectly.

:)

Spider
06-22-2009, 04:01 PM
forgive my typing here , i think I broke 2 fingers on my left hand , so typing will be hard , but Wilcox is trying to be miss cleo here ..... probably for ratings

Popps
06-22-2009, 04:08 PM
forgive my typing here , i think I broke 2 fingers on my left hand , so typing will be hard , but Wilcox is trying to be miss cleo here ..... probably for ratings

Good lord. Now what?

Spider
06-22-2009, 04:14 PM
Good lord. Now what?

I got my fingers pinched in between the chain that the track on this bulldozer i have on , I got the bleeding to stop, but they are sore as hell

BroncoBuff
06-22-2009, 04:19 PM
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Do NOT mention that game ever again!

BroncoBuff
06-22-2009, 04:27 PM
I got my fingers pinched in between the chain that the track on this bulldozer i have on , I got the bleeding to stop, but they are sore as hell

It was the down day Spider ... that day off dulled your cat-like reflexes ;D

HILife
06-22-2009, 04:41 PM
Do NOT mention that game ever again!

Is it ok to talk about this game?

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Spider
06-22-2009, 04:51 PM
It was the down day Spider ... that day off dulled your cat-like reflexes ;D

LOL yeah thats it , but now I dont think they are broke , I can move them and strength is coming back , but man that hurt like hell ;D I actually took some ibuprofen........Should have seen my pain dance though ... ;D

RunSilentRunDeep
06-22-2009, 04:55 PM
I bet he couldn't name one player outside Marshall with a morale problem. Players are happy in the NFL when they have a job and get a chance to compete. Name one person outside Marshall that doesn't have that opportunity.

His stats were all attempts based. He didn't mention Orton was +1.3 on TD%/INT% while Cutler was +1.2. The chasm he referred doesn't exist.

BroncoBuff
06-22-2009, 04:57 PM
Is it ok to talk about this game?

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I HATE THAT GAME TOO!


But the Buffalo game is worse than any game since ......... the 2005 AFC Championship game, before that the Redskins home loss in 2001, before that the Jaguars home playoff loss in 1996.

So shove that clip where the sun dont shine!!

Los Broncos
06-22-2009, 04:57 PM
Good lord. Now what?

Hilarious!

BroncoBuff
06-22-2009, 04:58 PM
I'm drunk .,... can you tell?


I know it's just 5 o;closk, but my life is kinda melting a bit

HILife
06-22-2009, 07:38 PM
I HATE THAT GAME TOO!


But the Buffalo game is worse than any game since ......... the 2005 AFC Championship game, before that the Redskins home loss in 2001, before that the Jaguars home playoff loss in 1996.

So shove that clip where the sun dont shine!!

Lets not forget the Denver vs Chicago 2007. That game pretty much ended the season. Worst part is, team never should've lost that game. Oh, those trips down memory lane.

P.S. I confess, I'm really BearMan18 and OrtonRules.

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HILife
06-22-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm drunk .,... can you tell?


I know it's just 5 o;closk, but my life is kinda melting a bit

It's ok. we all get a little drunk sometimes. Talk to us about your issue.

http://www.peteykins.com/July05/images/Psychiatrist.jpg

HEAV
06-22-2009, 08:39 PM
Lets not forget the Denver vs Chicago 2007.

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Burning heart by Survivor was a cool workout song....

That game was typical Shanny A.E. "After Elway"

s0phr0syne
06-22-2009, 09:16 PM
whatev @ the chicago game.

it's cute how the video omits the fumble recovery by Hamza that got whistled dead with no one between him and the endzone.

ColoradoDarin
06-22-2009, 09:59 PM
I don't know how anyone can take a guy seriously when he calls a 6-4 220 guy "small." The most basic thing he could get wrong, he does. That doesn't speak well for the rest of his commentary. It's like someone commenting on the US economy and saying our currency is Euros.

s0phr0syne
06-22-2009, 10:30 PM
I don't know how anyone can take a guy seriously when he calls a 6-4 220 guy "small." The most basic thing he could get wrong, he does. That doesn't speak well for the rest of his commentary. It's like someone commenting on the US economy and saying our currency is Euros.


"Well, if Obama has his way..."


/sarcasm

colonelbeef
06-23-2009, 09:43 AM
Colon Beef isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Pupps, you are just a run of the mill tool with an overly simplistic black-and-white worldview and an absurdly strong homeristic slant. Impossible to take you seriously in any manner, you are too predictable regardless.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-23-2009, 09:47 AM
Burning heart by Survivor was a cool workout song....

That game was typical Shanny A.E. "After Elway"

Burning Heart has the greatest lyric of all time:

"In the warriors code - theres no surrender
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!"

Yeah, thats right. Someone actually wrote that.

BroncoBuff
06-23-2009, 10:27 AM
Pupps, you are just a run of the mill tool with an overly simplistic black-and-white worldview and an absurdly strong homeristic slant. Impossible to take you seriously in any manner, you are too predictable regardless.

Plus he immediately hurls personal attacks at whoever disagrees with him (like right there against you). Classic sign of insecurity.

But he hasn't called you a c##t yet, colonel ... so you have a ways to go ;D

barryr
06-23-2009, 11:08 AM
Wilcotts is an idiot. One one hand, I saw him rant about how the Broncos traded Cutler and he's so important to the team and they stink, etc. Then when they showed Orton and Cutler stats, the win/loss in particular which shows Orton with a much better record, then Wilcotts says something like: don't look at that, football is a team game and Orton had a better team. Essentially saying the QB made no difference with the win/loss stat. Talking out of both sides of his mouth. QB's are important depending on your point according to that dummy.

BroncoBuff
06-23-2009, 02:31 PM
I HATE THAT GAME TOO!

But the Buffalo game is worse than any game since ......... the 2005 AFC Championship game, before that the Redskins home loss in 2001, before that the Jaguars home playoff loss in 1996.

Ahhh .... kinda gotta add the 49ers 2006 season-ender. That was HOOOOOrible.

But that does raises a point I rarely see made in here ... Shanahan missed the playoffs in 2 of his last 3 years in the last game of the season.

Bronx33
06-23-2009, 02:41 PM
I got my fingers pinched in between the chain that the track on this bulldozer i have on , I got the bleeding to stop, but they are sore as hell


Rub some dirt on it and get back on the road!!

Spider
06-23-2009, 09:31 PM
Rub some dirt on it and get back on the road!!

;D did .......