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Bronco Rob
06-21-2009, 05:55 AM
The Broncos are a team without a face.

The lights are on at Dove Valley, but the only man who really seems at home at franchise headquarters these days is owner Pat Bowlen.

Hey, Mr. Bowlen.

Give us our team back.

Never in the 25 years of Bowlen's reign have the Broncos been so devoid of personality.

We don't know the coach.

We don't know the quarterback.

Other than cornerback Champ Bailey, Broncomaniacs don't know whom they can trust to be in uniform tomorrow.

That's why, in a city that draws so much of its identity from a pro football team, the current crisis of personality feels so uncomfortable.

As an NFL franchise, Denver has ceased to be anything special.

It has become easier to define the Broncos for who they are not instead of what this team is now.

Whether the reason is advancing age, unexpected pink slip, controversial trade or personal tragedy, all of these stalwarts of the way the Broncos were have left the building: receiver Rod Smith, coach Mike Shanahan, quarterback Jay Cutler, the late Darrent Williams, center Tom Nalen, linebacker Al Wilson and safety John Lynch.

Guess what? None of them is coming back.

The more things change, the more the Broncos seem to bank on the old bottom line: As quickly as they print tickets to the stadium, loyal fans will line up to buy those seats.

With Dallas, New England, Pittsburgh and the New York Giants scheduled to come to town in 2009, however, do not be surprised if Invesco Field at Mile High is far from wall-to-wall orange. Cheers for the visiting team could threaten to drown out the home-field advantage should the Broncos struggle.

So maybe we all can begin to better understand why receiver Brandon Marshall did not hesitate to pack up his box and walk out the door of Broncos headquarters in a contract dispute. It's not as if Marshall were thumbing his nose and showing his backside to the Patriots, the Cowboys or any truly buzzworthy team.

Sure, a strong case can be made that Denver should trade Marshall before this diva can poison the locker room. And there's also the well-reasoned argument that a young Pro Bowl receiver deserves a raise from his $2.2 million annual salary.

Ah, if only life and the messy choices that result were so simple.

Here's betting Bowlen doesn't have the spare coin in his cookie jar to pay Marshall. On the other hand, Denver cannot really afford to dump one of its few recognizable players.

So I'm afraid the Broncos and Marshall are stuck with each other, even if it means letting a disgruntled receiver sit at home and pout, in a holdout that could last from the start of training camp through opening kickoff of the regular season.

We want to believe the Broncos are among the elite teams in professional sports. Years have passed since that was the reality, though.

The Nuggets have a definite personality, shaped by Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony. Todd Helton has stood the test of time for the Rockies.

The Broncos? They're coached by Josh Hoodiewannabe, with Kyle Whos-hewhatsit at quarterback.

The overt desire to reshape this team as Patriots West might well be based on sound football principles, but it's also a slap in the face to everybody who loves Denver's own fine football tradition.

Bowlen has been a good neighbor and a worthy caretaker of the most beloved sports franchise in Colorado.

After 25 years, this ownership has gone stale.

The Broncos are an organization in need of a change. Let's pray Bowlen is a guy who still has the energy for making tough decisions work.

Denver has become a flyover city in the NFL empire. That doesn't mean there's no hope.

But what are the Broncos now?

A team without a face.




;)

The Joker
06-21-2009, 06:18 AM
As an NFL franchise, Denver has ceased to be anything special.



Yeah, and that's been the case for almost a decade now.

Which is probably why Pat felt the need to change the HC and let him completely revamp the roster.

Bronco Rob
06-21-2009, 06:48 AM
Yeah, and that's been the case for almost a decade now.

Which is probably why Pat felt the need to change the HC and let him completely revamp the roster.


http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6232/rimshot.jpg







:thumbs:

rastaman
06-21-2009, 06:57 AM
The Broncos are a team without a face.

The lights are on at Dove Valley, but the only man who really seems at home at franchise headquarters these days is owner Pat Bowlen.

Hey, Mr. Bowlen.

Give us our team back.

Never in the 25 years of Bowlen's reign have the Broncos been so devoid of personality.

We don't know the coach.

We don't know the quarterback.

Other than cornerback Champ Bailey, Broncomaniacs don't know whom they can trust to be in uniform tomorrow.

That's why, in a city that draws so much of its identity from a pro football team, the current crisis of personality feels so uncomfortable.

As an NFL franchise, Denver has ceased to be anything special.

It has become easier to define the Broncos for who they are not instead of what this team is now.

Whether the reason is advancing age, unexpected pink slip, controversial trade or personal tragedy, all of these stalwarts of the way the Broncos were have left the building: receiver Rod Smith, coach Mike Shanahan, quarterback Jay Cutler, the late Darrent Williams, center Tom Nalen, linebacker Al Wilson and safety John Lynch.

Guess what? None of them is coming back.

The more things change, the more the Broncos seem to bank on the old bottom line: As quickly as they print tickets to the stadium, loyal fans will line up to buy those seats.

With Dallas, New England, Pittsburgh and the New York Giants scheduled to come to town in 2009, however, do not be surprised if Invesco Field at Mile High is far from wall-to-wall orange. Cheers for the visiting team could threaten to drown out the home-field advantage should the Broncos struggle.

So maybe we all can begin to better understand why receiver Brandon Marshall did not hesitate to pack up his box and walk out the door of Broncos headquarters in a contract dispute. It's not as if Marshall were thumbing his nose and showing his backside to the Patriots, the Cowboys or any truly buzzworthy team.

Sure, a strong case can be made that Denver should trade Marshall before this diva can poison the locker room. And there's also the well-reasoned argument that a young Pro Bowl receiver deserves a raise from his $2.2 million annual salary.

Ah, if only life and the messy choices that result were so simple.

Here's betting Bowlen doesn't have the spare coin in his cookie jar to pay Marshall. On the other hand, Denver cannot really afford to dump one of its few recognizable players.

So I'm afraid the Broncos and Marshall are stuck with each other, even if it means letting a disgruntled receiver sit at home and pout, in a holdout that could last from the start of training camp through opening kickoff of the regular season.

We want to believe the Broncos are among the elite teams in professional sports. Years have passed since that was the reality, though.

The Nuggets have a definite personality, shaped by Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony. Todd Helton has stood the test of time for the Rockies.

The Broncos? They're coached by Josh Hoodiewannabe, with Kyle Whos-hewhatsit at quarterback.

The overt desire to reshape this team as Patriots West might well be based on sound football principles, but it's also a slap in the face to everybody who loves Denver's own fine football tradition.

Bowlen has been a good neighbor and a worthy caretaker of the most beloved sports franchise in Colorado.

After 25 years, this ownership has gone stale.

The Broncos are an organization in need of a change. Let's pray Bowlen is a guy who still has the energy for making tough decisions work.

Denver has become a flyover city in the NFL empire. That doesn't mean there's no hope.

But what are the Broncos now?

A team without a face.




;)

Bowlen may one day wake up after hangover and realize he needs to fire himself! Can't blame the coach you just fired should the Broncos have consecutive seasons of 6 wins or less! Bowlen would just have to look in the mirror and admit the game has passed him by, and sell the Denver Broncos to new ownership. We shall see.

rastaman
06-21-2009, 07:06 AM
Yeah, and that's been the case for almost a decade now.

Which is probably why Pat felt the need to change the HC and let him completely revamp the roster.

True. But the risk Bowlen has taken could take 5 years to come to fruition or it may not work at all. Lets say McDaniels doesn't work out and the Patroncos West, suddenly find themselves in another rebuilding period.

Perhaps Bowlen would have been better SERVED to have hired Marty Shotenhimer(sp) vs an unproven 33 year old HC.

The Joker
06-21-2009, 07:15 AM
True. But the risk Bowlen has taken could take 5 years to come to fruition or it may not work at all. Lets say McDaniels doesn't work out and the Patroncos West, suddenly find themselves in another rebuilding period.

Perhaps Bowlen would have been better SERVED to have hired Marty Shotenhimer(sp) vs an unproven 33 year old HC.

Who Bowlen hired isn't the point at all.

The writer seems to be stressing about the fact that the team has no identity, but what does he expect when we've brought in a new coach who hasn't had a single game in charge yet?

Question McD's hiring and his subsequent moves so far by all means, but it's pretty retarded for anyone to be criticising Bowlen or McDaniels at this point for the team lacking an identity.

DenverBrit
06-21-2009, 07:18 AM
True. But the risk Bowlen has taken could take 5 years to come to fruition or it may not work at all. Lets say McDaniels doesn't work out and the Patroncos West, suddenly find themselves in another rebuilding period.

Perhaps Bowlen would have been better SERVED to have hired Marty Shotenhimer(sp) vs an unproven 33 year old HC.

At least with Marty we'd know what to expect..........more mediocrity.

If Marty couldn't get it done with the roster he had at SD, he was never going to be a post season winner.

Let's wait and see what McD has put together when the pads go on.

rastaman
06-21-2009, 07:39 AM
Who Bowlen hired isn't the point at all.

The writer seems to be stressing about the fact that the team has no identity, but what does he expect when we've brought in a new coach who hasn't had a single game in charge yet?

Question McD's hiring and his subsequent moves so far by all means, but it's pretty retarded for anyone to be criticising Bowlen or McDaniels at this point for the team lacking an identity.

Okay.....so lets say we give McD the benefit of the doubt, how long do we allow the honeymoon to last with McDaniels? Do we give him 2 or 3 years? Remember, McD is under the microscope and he must find a way to be more successful than the greatest Bronco HC in its 50 year history.

So far, the Belechek disciples have yet to prove they can win using Belicheks system. Before the Cutler debacle, I would have given McD a chance of duplicating Shanahan's first 4 season. Although winning 2 consecutive SB in four years is a hard task to duplicate.

Had McD left Bates and Culter in place, he had a chance of coming close to duplicating the number of wins Shanny had in his first 4 years. Now, b/c of the implosion McD will be lucky to achieve Shanny's record during Shanahan's last 4 years as Denver's HC.

Lastly, at what stage does Bowlen get held ACCOUNTABLE! Just b/c he's the owner doesn't give him a cart Blanche pass. For the next several years, Bowlen and McDaniels are joined at the hip! Their shot-gun marriage will be under great scrutiny.

rastaman
06-21-2009, 07:46 AM
At least with Marty we'd know what to expect..........more mediocrity.

If Marty couldn't get it done with the roster he had at SD, he was never going to be a post season winner.

Let's wait and see what McD has put together when the pads go on.

Historically, 30 something year old HC's in the NFL have had disasterous seasons or mediocre seasons. You don't have to "Wait and See"! McDaniel's will always have the Ghost of Mike Shanahan in his head, and thats who he'll be measured against. Who know's McD took the Bronco job b/c you don't turn down an opportunity, he wants the experience, and......hey he knows a returning to Belichek is always his nuclear option in two to four years. McD ain't seen pressure and stress yet if he can't get it done.

Hamrob
06-21-2009, 07:51 AM
McD gets 2yrs. With the schedule this year...we'll have to play lights out to make the playoffs. If he's a great coach...then we will make the playoffs. We have talent...but how it all comes together is the question of the hour.

You have to figure we miss the playoffs again this year. With all the rukus that McHoodie has started here in Denver...trading Cutler...thinking that Kyle Orton can take us to the promised land etc.

He'll get just one more year to take us there. If we miss the playoffs two years in a row....he's gone. Even if we make the playoffs one or both of these years...if in 3yrs we're not competing for a championship...he's gone.

He's the only one to blame and if he should pull it off...he'll be the only one to Hail! We'll see.

The thing to watch will be whether Shannahan can make a team competetive quicker than McDaniels after spotting him a year.

Pseudofool
06-21-2009, 08:03 AM
Whether the reason is advancing age, unexpected pink slip, controversial trade or personal tragedy, all of these stalwarts of the way the Broncos were have left the building: receiver Rod Smith, coach Mike Shanahan, quarterback Jay Cutler, the late Darrent Williams, center Tom Nalen, linebacker Al Wilson and safety John Lynch.
Guess what? None of them is coming back.This is one of the dumbest paragraphs I've ever read. I also hear Elway isn't coming back, either.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 08:18 AM
Yeah, and that's been the case for almost a decade now.

Which is probably why Pat felt the need to change the HC and let him completely revamp the roster.

Only to fans with unrealistic expectations.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 08:25 AM
Who Bowlen hired isn't the point at all.

The writer seems to be stressing about the fact that the team has no identity, but what does he expect when we've brought in a new coach who hasn't had a single game in charge yet?

Question McD's hiring and his subsequent moves so far by all means, but it's pretty retarded for anyone to be criticising Bowlen or McDaniels at this point for the team lacking an identity.

I think the point the writer is trying to make is about the totality of the moves -- McDaniels, Cutler and now possibly Marshall.

Since you don't have the Shanahan team, you would have at least said that "McDaniels focus will be on improving the number 2 ranked offense, while Mike Nolan addresses defensive deficiencies". However, Cutler was driven out of town by McDaniels, so you can't hang your hat on Culter and that #2 ranked offense.

Add to that, Marshall may soon be gone, and your 4,000+ yard passer and 100 reception receiver are replaced by Orton and Gaffney, not exactly a new 'identity' that anyone wants to trumpet from the mountain tops.

I agree that it is too early to judge the Broncos and I think Kizla has it mostly wrong, but having said that us Broncos fans could be in for the leanest times in over 20 years, because even in the rough times of the early '90s, we always knew "if they just get John a few weapons, we are back on top", but we don't have that anymore.

elsid13
06-21-2009, 08:27 AM
McD gets 2yrs. With the schedule this year...we'll have to play lights out to make the playoffs. If he's a great coach...then we will make the playoffs. We have talent...but how it all comes together is the question of the hour.

You have to figure we miss the playoffs again this year. With all the rukus that McHoodie has started here in Denver...trading Cutler...thinking that Kyle Orton can take us to the promised land etc.

He'll get just one more year to take us there. If we miss the playoffs two years in a row....he's gone. Even if we make the playoffs one or both of these years...if in 3yrs we're not competing for a championship...he's gone.

He's the only one to blame and if he should pull it off...he'll be the only one to Hail! We'll see.

The thing to watch will be whether Shannahan can make a team competetive quicker than McDaniels after spotting him a year.

The problem is, if Orton doesn't play well we are further behind the 8 ball of getting back to the playoffs. If they need to draft the QB next year to be the man, odds are stacked that Denver will take an additional 2 to 3 years to make the playoffs.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 08:33 AM
The problem is, if Orton doesn't play well we are further behind the 8 ball of getting back to the playoffs. If they need to draft the QB next year to be the man, odds are stacked that Denver will take an additional 2 to 3 years to make the playoffs.

Especially not having our number one pick to grab one of the top QBs in next years draft.

Between trading Cutler, and then using what could be a VERY high (I hope not) '10 pick on Smith, McDaniels has put himself in a position that regardless of that bitch of a schedule we have in '09, he needs to win immediately, not in a few years.

Gcver2ver3
06-21-2009, 08:48 AM
well at least you changed that font...

Tombstone RJ
06-21-2009, 08:58 AM
Kizla is such a douche bag. For the first time in years Bowlen has taken more control of the team and Kizla counter to this is to complain about a lack of identity?

Let me get this straight: Owner steps in, team loses identity?

Wow, what a complete crock of crap Kizla!

If anything, this team is closer to a true identity than at anytime since Elway retired. Hey Kizla, mediocrity means lack-of-direction and no identity! Aside from saying this was Shanny's team with a great running game, what identity did this proud franchise have? Certainly the defense suffered from a true lack of identity, over and over and over!

This new identity is simple: Team First

Why is this so hard to understand Kizz? Maybe because McX has locked you out and you can't go to Dove Valley and have free food anymore?

Pseudofool
06-21-2009, 09:02 AM
I think the point the writer is trying to make is about the totality of the moves -- McDaniels, Cutler and now possibly Marshall.Of course, when you boil down the totality of the offseason to three people, I can understand your take. The truth is over half of our roster has changed, and if that's not establishing a new identity, I don't know what is.

TonyR
06-21-2009, 09:07 AM
Only to fans with unrealistic expectations.

One playoff win in ten years? It's "unrealistic" to expect better than that?

TonyR
06-21-2009, 09:10 AM
Let me get this straight: Owner steps in, team loses identity?

Wow, what a complete crock of crap Kizla!


Good post. This team, particularly the defense, has been without an identity for quite a few years now. The goal of all this change is to give the team some identity, hopefully including some playoff wins.

Spider
06-21-2009, 09:12 AM
Now we know what sports writers do in the off season ..............Thats right Drugs and lots of them

tnedator
06-21-2009, 09:13 AM
Of course, when you boil down the totality of the offseason to three people, I can understand your take. The truth is over half of our roster has changed, and if that's not establishing a new identity, I don't know what is.

I didn't boil down the totality of the off season to three people. While about half of the 80-85 guys on the roster are new, not many of them 'defined' the team. Cutler was the young QB with all that upside -- a young Favre, as some on here 'derogatorily' label him. Marshall is one of only a small number of receivers to have back to back 100 catch seasons -- the guy that many talking heads have been saying is on his way to being one of the best in the league. Shanahan led the Broncos for 14 years or so, while keeping them among the top of the league (wins, winning seasons, playoff appearances, SB wins, etc.).

When you remove Shanahan, Cutler and Marshall, much of what have identified the Broncos in recent years is gone, hence the 'lack of identity'.

Now, that doesn't mean that McDaniels, Orton and others won't be successful, and be successful soon and redefine the Broncos' identity. Personally, I don't buy much into this identity thing, but I was simply explaining how/why Kizla could make that statement.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 09:14 AM
One playoff win in ten years? It's "unrealistic" to expect better than that?

Ask the fans of teams that haven't had one playoff win. That haven't had four seasons during that stretch where their team made the playoffs. That have had 5 or 6 or 8 losing seasons during that span, rather than two.

So, yes.

Spider
06-21-2009, 09:15 AM
If Kizla wanted to go with the identity bull**** , he should have went with passing offense or same running offense....... This other is just pure crap , they all look the same in the uniform

BearMan18
06-21-2009, 09:15 AM
The Broncos? They're coached by Josh Hoodiewannabe, with Kyle Whos-hewhatsit at quarterback.

Mother ****er **** cock sucker bitch ass ******.

TonyR
06-21-2009, 09:19 AM
Ask the fans of teams that haven't had one playoff win.

Ah, the "but we have it better than some teams" mentality. Also called the losers mentality. Some people strive for better than mediocrity and are willing to take some risks to achieve it. I'll support that approach myself.

footstepsfrom#27
06-21-2009, 09:30 AM
Nonsense...of course we have an identity.

http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/3stooges.jpg

The Joker
06-21-2009, 09:39 AM
Only to fans with unrealistic expectations.

The point was that the Broncos have "ceased to be special".

Sure, we've been slightly above average the last ten years.

But if you think the last ten years have been special then I'm not sure what exactlly to tell you.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 09:54 AM
Ah, the "but we have it better than some teams" mentality. Also called the losers mentality. Some people strive for better than mediocrity and are willing to take some risks to achieve it. I'll support that approach myself.

Age check? How long have you been a Broncos' fan? And you can't start the clock at conception.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 10:17 AM
Mother ****er **** pink pony rider b**** ass ******.

BearMan18 ... quiz to verify your identity:
Why does Kyle Orton wear #18?
Why can't he wear #18 here?

BearMan18
06-21-2009, 10:20 AM
BearMan18 ... quiz to verify your identity:
Why does Kyle Orton wear #18?
Why can't he wear #18 here?

He's been 18 since Purdue... and I'm guessing someone here already has that number...?

Tombstone RJ
06-21-2009, 10:21 AM
Mediocrity is nothing special, yet some want to live with it because it provides an easier pillow to land on than a bad record.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 10:51 AM
He's been 18 since Purdue... and I'm guessing someone here already has that number...?

EXPOSED!!!

1. Orton wore #18 in honor of a boyhood hero, the late Nebraska quarterback Brook Berringer.
2. #18 is one of three retired numbers in Denver ... old AFL quarterbacl Frank Tripucka.

At least we know you're not Taco John now ....

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 10:52 AM
Okay ... partial redemption possibility:

What are the other two Denver Broncos retired numbers?

BearMan18
06-21-2009, 11:15 AM
EXPOSED!!!

1. Orton wore #18 in honor of a boyhood hero, the late Nebraska quarterback Brook Berringer.
2. #18 is one of three retired numbers in Denver ... old AFL quarterbacl Frank Tripucka.

At least we know you're not Taco John now ....\

Wow. I had no idea... repped! So now he's rugged, amazingly talented, handsome AND respectful.

Okay ... partial redemption possibility:

What are the other two Denver Broncos retired numbers?

Elway and Gradishar! Thanks Tombstone RJ!

Tombstone RJ
06-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Okay ... partial redemption possibility:

What are the other two Denver Broncos retired numbers?

Elway and Gradishar

Tombstone RJ
06-21-2009, 11:16 AM
Elway and Insert Name Here

Pseudofool
06-21-2009, 11:17 AM
I didn't boil down the totality of the off season to three people. While about half of the 80-85 guys on the roster are new, not many of them 'defined' the team. Cutler was the young QB with all that upside -- a young Favre, as some on here 'derogatorily' label him. Marshall is one of only a small number of receivers to have back to back 100 catch seasons -- the guy that many talking heads have been saying is on his way to being one of the best in the league. Shanahan led the Broncos for 14 years or so, while keeping them among the top of the league (wins, winning seasons, playoff appearances, SB wins, etc.).

When you remove Shanahan, Cutler and Marshall, much of what have identified the Broncos in recent years is gone, hence the 'lack of identity'.

Now, that doesn't mean that McDaniels, Orton and others won't be successful, and be successful soon and redefine the Broncos' identity. Personally, I don't buy much into this identity thing, but I was simply explaining how/why Kizla could make that statement.Your confusing public face with identity.

Tombstone RJ
06-21-2009, 11:32 AM
Not sure why post #35 is ahead of post #36, seems odd, doesn't it?

Popps
06-21-2009, 11:39 AM
What a goofy article. Sounds like it was written by one of the pants-wetters around here.

The problem is, after a legend like Elway, people falsely believe that a team has to be comprised of one mega-star, and a bunch of supporting characters.

Take a look at Pittsburgh's roster, and you realize that this simply isn't the case.

Bowlen and McDaniels ARE building a personality... it's call "a team."

The last time we had anything that resembled a team was 2005, and we were on the doorstep of a Superbowl.

The current admin understands that building lasting success requires drafting blocking tight ends when it might not be the sexy thing to do. They understand the importance of special teams. (And made it a priority.)

So, Kiszla wrote an article to stir people up. That's fine. He may or may not have done it intentionally. But, intentional or not... he's way off base, here. This franchise is doing exactly what they should have done a long time ago.

It's not about one guy. Ask the Steelers.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 11:46 AM
Elway and <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">Insert Name Here</span> Floyd Little.

Fixed.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 11:54 AM
What a goofy article. Sounds like it was written by one of the pants-wetters around here.


Define "pants-wetters around here"

listopencil
06-21-2009, 11:56 AM
What a goofy article. Sounds like it was written by one of the pants-wetters around here.

The problem is, after a legend like Elway, people falsely believe that a team has to be comprised of one mega-star, and a bunch of supporting characters.

Take a look at Pittsburgh's roster, and you realize that this simply isn't the case.

Bowlen and McDaniels ARE building a personality... it's call "a team."

The last time we had anything that resembled a team was 2005, and we were on the doorstep of a Superbowl.

The current admin understands that building lasting success requires drafting blocking tight ends when it might not be the sexy thing to do. They understand the importance of special teams. (And made it a priority.)

So, Kiszla wrote an article to stir people up. That's fine. He may or may not have done it intentionally. But, intentional or not... he's way off base, here. This franchise is doing exactly what they should have done a long time ago.

It's not about one guy. Ask the Steelers.


Yep.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 12:01 PM
Define "pants-wetters around here"

Whoever he says so, dammit!

He'll throw out some 4-asterisked words at you if you don't shut the **** up!

tnedator
06-21-2009, 12:16 PM
Whoever he says so, dammit!

He'll throw out some 4-asterisked words at you if you don't shut the **** up!

Yea, just wanted to see if he had the balls to say, "whoever disagrees with my egocentric opinions".

Popps
06-21-2009, 12:18 PM
Whoever he says so, dammit!

He'll throw out some 4-asterisked words at you if you don't shut the **** up!

Meet Chicken Little, wet-pants #1...

BearMan18
06-21-2009, 12:19 PM
Meet Chicken Little, wet-pants #1...

LOL LOL LOL Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!

^5

Get em Popps!

Popps
06-21-2009, 12:20 PM
Yea, just wanted to see if he had the balls to say, "whoever disagrees with my egocentric opinions".

My opinions? Maybe you're not reading the thread, Chief. Seems that plenty agree with being rational here, instead of insisting on gloom and doom.

You're free to wet yourself with fear. Just don't ask everyone to jump on board with you.



GO BRONCOS.

SoCalBronco
06-21-2009, 12:25 PM
Good article.

Killericon
06-21-2009, 12:25 PM
Whether the reason is advancing age, unexpected pink slip, controversial trade or personal tragedy, all of these stalwarts of the way the Broncos were have left the building: receiver Rod Smith, coach Mike Shanahan, quarterback Jay Cutler, the late Darrent Williams, center Tom Nalen, linebacker Al Wilson and safety John Lynch.

First, what about Champ Bailey?
Second, Darrent Williams, Rest in Peace, wasn't a stalwart of anything.

What a terrible article.

The Broncos are an organization in need of a change.

Yeah, we REALLY need some more change up in here. We haven't had nearly enough.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 12:32 PM
Meet Chicken Little, wet-pants #1...

Yeah, but what you don't know is, I don't have to worry about that ... I took some advice from a true American hero:


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/492/dependsw.jpg



These have been invaluable this offseason ... you never know when another insane announcement will be coming outta Dove Valley ...

At least I'm protected :USA:

tnedator
06-21-2009, 12:35 PM
My opinions? Maybe you're not reading the thread, Chief. Seems that plenty agree with being rational here, instead of insisting on gloom and doom.

You're free to wet yourself with fear. Just don't ask everyone to jump on board with you.



GO BRONCOS.

Ahh, is that what the wetting is about, a fear thing? When people talk in riddles, you never know what they are saying.

I might not agree with all the moves, but I am excited about the upcoming season.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 12:41 PM
My opinions? Maybe you're not reading the thread, Chief. Seems that plenty agree with being rational here, instead of insisting on gloom and doom.

You're free to wet yourself with fear. Just don't ask everyone to jump on board with you.
Dude, why do you keep twisting what people are saying ... just to set up this crazy self-righteous "war" of yours that only you are fighting? And throwing out this faux-macho "fear" thing ... project much?

Just because people don't like the moves or draft picks or trades being made doesn't make them "unpatriotic," Popps W. Bush ...

Why can't you see that ... sheesh, you predicted 5-6 wins yourself here recently. Does that mean you're wetting yourself too? I think it does!

listopencil
06-21-2009, 12:42 PM
Honestly, the article is crap. You want a "face" for the organization?


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BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 12:43 PM
GAWD I love me some Peyton Hillis ... I hope he gets a ton of touches.

Pseudofool
06-21-2009, 12:44 PM
Funny how we get an undisputed leader in Dawkins, but no one mentions him.

listopencil
06-21-2009, 12:44 PM
Or even...

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tnedator
06-21-2009, 12:46 PM
Dude, why do you keep twisting what people are saying ... just to set up this crazy self-righteous "war" of yours that only you are fighting? And throwing out this faux-macho "fear" thing ... project much?

Just because people don't like the moves or draft picks or trades being made doesn't make them "unpatriotic," Popps W. Bush ...

Why can't you see that ... sheesh, you predicted 5-6 wins yourself here recently. Does that mean you're wetting yourself too? I think it does!

Come on now, while I think Popps is a bit of a twit, that seems to be the second political reference in this thread. I thought the liberal spin was supposed be kept in WPR?

tnedator
06-21-2009, 12:47 PM
GAWD I love me some Peyton Hillis ... I hope he gets a ton of touches.

Ditto.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 12:49 PM
Come on now, while I think Popps is a bit of a twit, that seems to be the second political reference in this thread. I thought the liberal spin was supposed be kept in WPR?

Yeah, I don't mean to say he's a Bush fan or even a Republican ... it's just a metaphor for his jackboot harranguing of anybody who dares question management.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I don't mean to say he's a Bush fan or even a Republican ... it's just a metaphor for his jackboot harranguing of anybody who dares question management.

I know he's a thug, and constantly whines about the mods and stuff, but I can't help but notice your inaccurate and misplaced (forum wise) political references.

BroncoBuff
06-21-2009, 12:56 PM
Do I do it that much ... and why inaccurate?

listopencil
06-21-2009, 01:02 PM
Actually, if we could trade Marshall for a bad ass impact DT I'd be a happy camper right now.

tnedator
06-21-2009, 01:07 PM
Do I do it that much ... and why inaccurate?

First time I saw it was in this thread, but a couple times. As to accuracy, we shouldn't discuss that outside of WPR, or at least that is my understanding.

Now, back to Popp's warped sense of reality... ;)

NYBronco
06-21-2009, 01:39 PM
The Broncos are a team without a face.

The lights are on at Dove Valley, but the only man who really seems at home at franchise headquarters these days is owner Pat Bowlen.

Hey, Mr. Bowlen.

Give us our team back.

Never in the 25 years of Bowlen's reign have the Broncos been so devoid of personality.

We don't know the coach.

We don't know the quarterback.

Other than cornerback Champ Bailey, Broncomaniacs don't know whom they can trust to be in uniform tomorrow.

That's why, in a city that draws so much of its identity from a pro football team, the current crisis of personality feels so uncomfortable.

As an NFL franchise, Denver has ceased to be anything special.

It has become easier to define the Broncos for who they are not instead of what this team is now.

Whether the reason is advancing age, unexpected pink slip, controversial trade or personal tragedy, all of these stalwarts of the way the Broncos were have left the building: receiver Rod Smith, coach Mike Shanahan, quarterback Jay Cutler, the late Darrent Williams, center Tom Nalen, linebacker Al Wilson and safety John Lynch.

Guess what? None of them is coming back.

The more things change, the more the Broncos seem to bank on the old bottom line: As quickly as they print tickets to the stadium, loyal fans will line up to buy those seats.

With Dallas, New England, Pittsburgh and the New York Giants scheduled to come to town in 2009, however, do not be surprised if Invesco Field at Mile High is far from wall-to-wall orange. Cheers for the visiting team could threaten to drown out the home-field advantage should the Broncos struggle.

So maybe we all can begin to better understand why receiver Brandon Marshall did not hesitate to pack up his box and walk out the door of Broncos headquarters in a contract dispute. It's not as if Marshall were thumbing his nose and showing his backside to the Patriots, the Cowboys or any truly buzzworthy team.

Sure, a strong case can be made that Denver should trade Marshall before this diva can poison the locker room. And there's also the well-reasoned argument that a young Pro Bowl receiver deserves a raise from his $2.2 million annual salary.

Ah, if only life and the messy choices that result were so simple.

Here's betting Bowlen doesn't have the spare coin in his cookie jar to pay Marshall. On the other hand, Denver cannot really afford to dump one of its few recognizable players.

So I'm afraid the Broncos and Marshall are stuck with each other, even if it means letting a disgruntled receiver sit at home and pout, in a holdout that could last from the start of training camp through opening kickoff of the regular season.

We want to believe the Broncos are among the elite teams in professional sports. Years have passed since that was the reality, though.

The Nuggets have a definite personality, shaped by Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony. Todd Helton has stood the test of time for the Rockies.

The Broncos? They're coached by Josh Hoodiewannabe, with Kyle Whos-hewhatsit at quarterback.
The overt desire to reshape this team as Patriots West might well be based on sound football principles, but it's also a slap in the face to everybody who loves Denver's own fine football tradition.

Bowlen has been a good neighbor and a worthy caretaker of the most beloved sports franchise in Colorado.

After 25 years, this ownership has gone stale.

The Broncos are an organization in need of a change. Let's pray Bowlen is a guy who still has the energy for making tough decisions work.

Denver has become a flyover city in the NFL empire. That doesn't mean there's no hope.

But what are the Broncos now?

A team without a face.




;)

If it wasn't Josh Hoodiewannabe it would have been someone else wannabe and also another QB other than Jay.

If Patriots West can get us back to winning, I'm all for it. Cleveland Browns west was a washout.

Hardly a slap in the face to this Bronco fan. I grew tired of our 8 and 8 neighborhood seasons. If that's Bronco tradition it got past me.

Hulamau
06-21-2009, 03:11 PM
Kizla is such a douche bag. For the first time in years Bowlen has taken more control of the team and Kizla counter to this is to complain about a lack of identity?

Let me get this straight: Owner steps in, team loses identity?

Wow, what a complete crock of crap Kizla!

If anything, this team is closer to a true identity than at anytime since Elway retired. Hey Kizla, mediocrity means lack-of-direction and no identity! Aside from saying this was Shanny's team with a great running game, what identity did this proud franchise have? Certainly the defense suffered from a true lack of identity, over and over and over!

This new identity is simple: Team First

Why is this so hard to understand Kizz? Maybe because McX has locked you out and you can't go to Dove Valley and have free food anymore?

Sometimes Kizla is a total moron! He was a curmudgeon when Shanny was here and he's a curmudgeon now ... A tiger with stripes.