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mhgaffney
06-16-2009, 03:50 PM
This shocking report from Baghdad by Patrick Cockburn (who has been there since the US invasion)

is consistent with my previously stated view that the US game plan in 2003 was not simply to seize Iraq's oil -- but to destroy the nation -- to leave it prostrate so that Iraq could never again challenge Israeli hegemony in the region.

Well, here is new and powerful evidence that that analysis was correct. Steal a nation's water supply and it will cease to exist. This is especially true in a desert region like Iraq -- which is totally dependent on the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.

In this case the guilty party is Turkey -- a strong US ally -- also an ally of Israel. No doubt this great crime against Iraq has been done with Washington's silent approval.

MHG

Bloomsday Edition
June 16, 2009

Iraq's Looming Peril

A Plague of Snakes

By PATRICK COCKBURN

Baghdad.

Snakes are attacking people and cattle in southern Iraq as the Euphrates and Tigris rivers dry up and the reptiles lose their natural habitat among the reed beds.

"People are terrified and are leaving their homes," says Jabar Mustafa, a medical administrator, who works in a hospital in the southern province of Dhi Qar. "We knew these snakes before, but now they are coming in huge numbers. They are attacking buffalo and cattle as well as people." Doctors in the area say six people have been killed and 13 poisoned.

In Chabaysh, a town on the Euphrates close to the southern marshland of Hawr al-Hammar, farmers have set up an overnight operations room to prevent the snakes attacking their cattle.

"We have been surprised in recent days by the unprecedented number of snakes that have fled their habitat because of the dryness and heat," Wissam al-Assadi, one of the town's vets said. "We saw some on roads, near houses and cowsheds. Farmers have come to us for vaccines, but we don't have any."

The plague of snakes is the latest result of an unprecedented fall in the level of the water in the Euphrates and the Tigris, the two great rivers which for thousands of years have made life possible in the sun-baked plains of Mesopotamia, the very name of which means "between the rivers" in Greek. The rivers that made Iraq's dry soil so fertile are drying up because the supply of water, which once flowed south into Iraq from Turkey, Syria and Iran, is now held back by dams and used for irrigation. On the Euphrates alone, Turkey has five large dams upriver from Iraq, and Syria has two.

The diversion of water from the rivers has already destroyed a large swathe of Iraqi agriculture and the result of Iraq being starved of water may be as great a disaster for modern Iraq as the overtaxing and collapse of Mesopotamian irrigation systems in the early Islamic period, under the Abbassids. Already the advance of the desert has led to frequent dust storms in Baghdad which close the airport. Yet this dramatic climatic change has attracted little attention outside Iraq, overshadowed by the violence following the US-led invasion in 2003 and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

The collapse in the water levels of the rivers has been swift, the amount of water in the Euphrates falling by three-quarters in less than a decade. In 2000, the flow speed of the water in the river was 950 cubic meters per second, but by this year it had dropped to 230 cubic meters per second.

In the past, Iraq has stored water in lakes behind its own dams, but these reservoirs are now much depleted and can no longer make up the shortfall. The total water reserves behind all Iraqi dams at the beginning of May was only 11 billion cubic meters, compared to over 40 billion three years ago. One of the biggest dams in the country, on the Euphrates at Haditha in western Iraq, close to the Syrian border, held eight billion cubic meters two years ago but now has only two billion.

Iraq has appealed to Turkey to open the sluice gates on its dams. "We need at least 500 cubic metres of water per second from Turkey, or double what we are getting," says Abdul Latif Rashid, the Iraqi Minister of Water Resources. "They promised an extra 130 cubic metres, but this was only for a couple of days and we need it for months." His ministry is doing everything it can, he says, but the most important decisions about the supply of water to Iraq are taken outside the country – in Turkey, Syria and Iran. "In addition there has been a drought for the last four years with less than half the normal rainfall falling," says Mr Rashid.

Large parts of Iraq that were once productive farmland have already turned into arid desert. The Iraqi Ministry of Agriculture says that between 40 and 50 per cent of what was agricultural land in the 1970s is now being hit by desertification.

Drought, war, UN sanctions, lack of investment and the cutting down of trees for firewood have all exacerbated the crisis, but at its heart is the lack of water for irrigation in the Tigris and Euphrates. Farmers across Iraq are being driven from the land. Earlier this month, farmers and fishermen demonstrated in Najaf, a city close to the Euphrates, holding up placards demanding that the Iraqi government insist that foreign countries release more water.

"The farmers have stopped planting and now head to the city for work to earn their daily living until the water comes back," said Ali al-Ghazali, a farmer from the area.

"We pay for our seeds at the time of the harvest, and if we fail to harvest, or the harvest has been ruined, the person who sold us the seeds still wants his money." Najaf province has banned its farmers from growing rice because the crop needs too much water.

The drop in the quantity of water in the rivers has also reduced its quality. The plains of ancient Mesopotamia once produced abundant crops for the ancient Sumerians. From Nineveh in the north to Ur of the Chaldees in the south, the flat landscape of Iraq is dotted with the mounds marking the remains of their cities. There is little rainfall away from the mountains of Kurdistan and the land immediately below them, so agriculture has always depended on irrigation.

But centuries of irrigating the land without draining it properly has led to a build-up of salt in the soil, making much of it infertile. Lack of water in the rivers has speeded up the salinization, so land in central and southern Iraq, highly productive 30 years ago, has become barren. Even such rainfall as does fall in northern Iraq has been scant in recent years. In February, the Greater Zaab river, one of the main tributaries of the Tigris, which should have been a torrent, was a placid stream occupying less than a quarter of its river bed. The hills overlooking it, which should be green, were a dusty brown.

Experts summoned by the Water Resources Ministry to a three-day conference on the water crisis held in Sulaimaniyah in April described the situation as "a tragedy".

Mohammed Ali Sarham, a water specialist from Diwaniyah in southern Iraq, said: "Things are slipping from our hands: swathes of land are being turned into desert. Farmers are leaving the countryside and heading to the city or nearby areas. We are importing almost all our food, though in the 1950s we were one of the few regional cereal-exporting countries."

The experts recommended that, in addition to Turkey releasing more water, there should be heavy investment to make better use of the waterways such as the Tigris and Euphrates. But this year Mr Rashid says that his budget for this year has been cut in half to $500m because of the fall in the price of oil.

The outcome of the agricultural disaster in Iraq is evident in the fruit and vegetable shops in Baghdad. Jassim Mohammed Bahadeel, a grocer in the Karada district, says that once much of what he sold came from farms around the Iraqi capital. "But today, the apples I sell come from America, France and Chile; tomatoes and potatoes from Syria and Jordan; oranges from Egypt and Turkey. Only the dates come from Iraq because they do not need a lot of water."

Patrick Cockburn is the author of 'The Occupation: War, resistance and daily life in Iraq' and 'Muqtada! Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shia revival and the struggle for Iraq'.

Rohirrim
06-16-2009, 03:58 PM
Once again, Gaff proves how monumentally full of **** he is. It was the U.S. that built the dams and drained the marshes? Really?

DESPITE the allied air exclusion zone over southern Iraq, Saddam Hussein's massive engineering works to destroy the rebellious Shia Muslim villages of Iraq's southern marshes appear to be more than two-thirds complete, with a series of dams, hundreds of miles in length, already constructed to drain the waters of the Euphrates river away from thousands of square miles of land.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/iraqi-drainage-scheme-cripples-marsh-arabs-saddam-husseins-attempts-to-strangle-the-shias-insurrection-have-led-him-to-an-engineering-assault-on-their-habitat-writes-robert-fisk-1475574.html

Yeah, the U.S. did it under the influence of the Jews. Pathetic.

mhgaffney
06-16-2009, 04:05 PM
hey Ro -- so you don't give a damn? So you won't speak out against this crime?

Imagine the reaction here in the US if a similar thing happened to us? Jerks like you would be screaming for war -- nuke the bastards -- for stealing our water.

Water = life.

There is no way Turkey could have pulled off this act of war against Iraq without a wink and a nod from Washington. No way.

We destroyed Iraq as a nation -- rendering it vulnerable to this sort of depredation. We are no less culpable than Turkey. And you are the lamest and feeblest defender of liberty/democracy not to admit it.

Rohirrim
06-16-2009, 04:07 PM
hey Ro -- so you don't give a damn? So you won't speak out against this crime?

Imagine the reaction here in the US if a similar thing happened to us? Jerks like you would be screaming for war -- nuke the bastards -- for stealing our water.

Water = life.

There is no way Turkey could have pulled off this act of war against Iraq without a wink and a nod from Washington. No way.

We destroyed Iraq as a nation -- rendering it vulnerable to this sort of depredation. We are no less culpable than Turkey. And you are the lamest and feeblest defender of liberty/democracy not to admit it.

Read the link, yahoo. Send your complaints to the Iraqi government. It's got nothing to do with the U.S. You'll really be shocked in a couple of years when not one American is left in Iraq.

mhgaffney
06-16-2009, 04:19 PM
Nothing to do with the US?

You live in the balloon of your over active imagination.

mhgaffney
06-16-2009, 04:31 PM
Evidently Ro believes that the US liberated Iraq. We did not destroy it. We don't do nasty things like that. Not us. We are the good guys.

No doubt -- Ro also believes that the looting of the cultural museums of Iraq also had nothing to do with the US. Even though it happened even as US military forces were occupying Baghdad.

Just a coincidence -- I suppose.

An archaeological expert at Oxford called it the greatest destruction of Mankind's Archeological legacy since the Mongol hordes swept through Iraq centuries ago...

Notice, this makes the looting of the Iraqi museums in 2003 far worse than anything the Nazis did in Europe.

But given Ro's strange idea that the US is not responsible -- he obviously thinks we liberated Iraq -- some unknown party or parties -- maybe ghosts? -- snuck in there under cover of the US invasion and did the deed.

Sec of Defense (war) Rummy said we didn't have enough tanks to protect the museums.

Of course we did station tanks outside the interior ministry -- which administers the oil fields.

denial runs DEEEEEEEEP

Rohirrim
06-16-2009, 05:11 PM
Evidently Ro believes that the US liberated Iraq. We did not destroy it. We don't do nasty things like that. Not us. We are the good guys.

No doubt -- Ro also believes that the looting of the cultural museums of Iraq also had nothing to do with the US. Even though it happened even as US military forces were occupying Baghdad.

Just a coincidence -- I suppose.

An archaeological expert at Oxford called it the greatest destruction of Mankind's Archeological legacy since the Mongol hordes swept through Iraq centuries ago...

Notice, this makes the looting of the Iraqi museums in 2003 far worse than anything the Nazis did in Europe.

But given Ro's strange idea that the US is not responsible -- he obviously thinks we liberated Iraq -- some unknown party or parties -- maybe ghosts? -- snuck in there under cover of the US invasion and did the deed.

Sec of Defense (war) Rummy said we didn't have enough tanks to protect the museums.

Of course we did station tanks outside the interior ministry -- which administers the oil fields.

denial runs DEEEEEEEEP

I said the U.S. is not responsible for the particular waterway destruction claimed in the article you posted, moron. Reading comprehension is one of the building blocks of critical thought.

Atlas
06-16-2009, 05:38 PM
I was in Kuwait one day after the War started in fact I got off my plane at the Airport and I had to go straight to the Bomb shelter. I was in Baghdad in May 2003. The place was horrible then.

We were taking water out of this Lake that was next to the BIAP and purifying it for drinking. The lake was so loaded with nickle and other minerals and other pollutants that we were advised not to even get in the water.

I got Baghdad in May. The War started in March during that whole time there was NO trash pickup up. There was garbage piled everywhere. Imagine what your neighborhood would look like if there was no trash pickup for over 2 months!

The Baghdad hospital had their incinerator stolen. So they had to hire an outside company to dispose of their body parts, blood bags, needles etc. This company found it much cheap to just dump all this stuff in the river.

The Tigres and Eurphrates rivers were very dangerously polluted but they had these great big carp looking fish that were at all the roadside venders.

Goat is very popular and are slaughtered along the polluted roadside skinned and hung up waiting for buyers. These goats were also paraded through the heaps of trash and they would eat just about anything.

Iraqi tanks littered all the roads they were shelled by American ammunition which usually was a depleated Uranium shell that cuts through the tank like butter and then bounces around inside the tank making mince meat of whatever was in there. These shells are radioactive and cause the tanks to be radioactive, very radioactive. Iraqis come and take whatever they can off the tank and then the kids find them great play things. All the while many of them are sure to be getting cancer in the future.

Even when Iraq is stablized and peaceful it's still going to be a ****hole place to live.

orinjkrush
06-16-2009, 06:04 PM
Snakes on the motherfricking plane?

Who cares.

mhgaffney
06-16-2009, 10:55 PM
The report by P Cockburn at the top of this thread is biblical. It could have been lifted verbatim from Scripture.

Yet, it is happening in our time -- thanks to the neo conservative-Zionist axis of evil here in the US. They hatched the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The Lord will not look kindly on America. Most likely we will inherit the wind. What goes around comes around.

mhgaffney
06-17-2009, 04:36 AM
Face it:
The US Plan All Along was to destroy Iraq.

In 2002 VP Cheney met with representatives of Jordan, the Iraqi opposition (Chalabi) and others in London in an attempt to sell the US game plan for Iraq.

And what was the US plan? Simple. To dismember the country. Don't believe me?

Check it out:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KHA209A.html

True - the plan to dismember Iraq didn't happen for a couple of reasons. The Jordanians never bought into it -- and there was unexpected resistance from the Iraqis themselves -- in the form of an insurgency.

Nonetheless -- the US did succeed in destroying the nation -- for all practical purposes. This satisfied the Israelis.

Turkey's diversion of water is simply the coup de grace. Turkey = a vulture preying on the dying (dead?) carcass of Iraq.

Ro needs to get a new reading prescription. Evidently his glasses are fogging his perception of reality.

MHG

mhgaffney
06-17-2009, 04:43 AM
The 2002 meetings in London to sell the US war plan were reported in the Israeli press -- but I never saw anything in the US media. They kept it off the radar screen --

Got to keep the American people watching foooball (i.e., in the dark)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=214635

cutthemdown
06-17-2009, 06:39 AM
Gaff don't you know Global Warming is made by the USA so that we can starve the middle east out of water? Our plan is starting to work. Turns out if you die of thirst or get bitten by a snake, you can't do a suicide bombing that day. Whuddathunkit?

Rohirrim
06-17-2009, 07:41 AM
The 2002 meetings in London to sell the US war plan were reported in the Israeli press -- but I never saw anything in the US media. They kept it off the radar screen --

Got to keep the American people watching foooball (i.e., in the dark)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=214635

So, you come to the W&P forum and attack people for watching football (on a football board) then, you occasionally wander over to the main board to make comments on what the Broncos should do to improve. Have you been checked for schizophrenia?

That One Guy
06-17-2009, 09:09 AM
The Hamrin Lake, not far from where I'm at is nearly dry too. Many villages existed off the lake for water and fish. I bet we convinced Iran to dam it as well. Right? Or is maybe that as the rivers run south from sovereign nations, Iraq can't do much if the other nations keep the water? Believe it or not, some countries in the hot desert Middle East area actually might be trying to harness the water. I'm sure there's something comparable happening with the Colorado River as it continues to get tapped for different things. Do they not feel that crunch in Mexico with falling water levels? Is our goal to kill the Mexicans?

Lake Hamrin, also known as Diyala Dam, is a man-made lake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake) approximately 50km north-east of the Baquba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baquba), in Iraq's Diyala province (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyala_province). The town of Hamrin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamrin) sits on the western shore of the lake, both of which are at the southern tip of the Hamrin mountains.
It was established in 1981 as an artificial dam to hold over two billion cubic meters of water. It is a source of fish and also provides water for nearby date palm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_palm) orchards and other farms.
In June 2008, it was reported that due to Iranian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran) damming of the al-Wand River (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al-Wand_River&action=edit&redlink=1), the lake had lost nearly 80% of its capacity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Hamrin

Rohirrim
06-17-2009, 09:13 AM
The report by P Cockburn at the top of this thread is biblical. It could have been lifted verbatim from Scripture.

Yet, it is happening in our time -- thanks to the neo conservative-Zionist axis of evil here in the US. They hatched the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The Lord will not look kindly on America. Most likely we will inherit the wind. What goes around comes around.

I thought Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban launched the war in Afghanistan?

mhgaffney
06-17-2009, 09:14 AM
Ro,

You are a pathetic work.

Yes I am a fooooball fan. What of it?

Did it ever occur to you that a Bronco fan can also be informed about geo politics? There is no intrinsic contradiction.

MHG

mhgaffney
06-17-2009, 09:19 AM
If Ro had any integrity -- he'd admit that he was wrong about the "coup in Iran" thread.

He presented zero evidence. The whole notion is absurd -- when you think about it. How can Ahmadinejad be part of a coup -- since he was already president?

No, this coup business was cooked up by the same spin doctors who gave us the Iraq war, the same bastards who want another war against Iran. They own the US media lock stock and barrel -- and use it to hype and demonize Iran --just liked they prepared the American people for war in 2003.

Ro is gullible and swallowed the BS. Too bad for him.

cutthemdown
06-17-2009, 09:54 AM
Well Egypt has always said any effort ot impede the Nile's flow through Egypt would mean war.

Iraq probably getting screwed by Turkey and Iran for water because they know they can get away with it.

I don't anything about it but it sounds reasonable.

Water is the key and the whole Mideast running out of it. Better build some Saudi style desalination plants. They use a ton of power though but the technology works. It's just they burn though a few million barrels of oil a yr or something crazy like that.

We may even have to think about desalination as a way for drinking water because as country grows we will need more water.

If Global Warming is as dire as predicted we could face tougher water management issues in the future.

Maybe a few more nuclear power plants that supply energy for desalination and electricity wouldn't be a bad idea.

cutthemdown
06-17-2009, 09:56 AM
If Ro had any integrity -- he'd admit that he was wrong about the "coup in Iran" thread.

He presented zero evidence. The whole notion is absurd -- when you think about it. How can Ahmadinejad be part of a coup -- since he was already president?

No, this coup business was cooked up by the same spin doctors who gave us the Iraq war, the same bastards who want another war against Iran. They own the US media lock stock and barrel -- and use it to hype and demonize Iran --just liked they prepared the American people for war in 2003.

Ro is gullible and swallowed the BS. Too bad for him.

See because I thought he meant that the reformist and the people were going to try a coup on the ruling govt. Are you sure he meant that it was the current govt staging a coup?

Gaff is right a coup is led by the people not in power, at least that's what I always thought.

Who really cares though it's fun to see the Iranian people show there govt they are pissed about how they live.

cutthemdown
06-17-2009, 09:57 AM
No way people would risk a beating just to have a good time protesting like hear in America.

Rohirrim
06-17-2009, 10:00 AM
Ro,

You are a pathetic work.

Yes I am a fooooball fan. What of it?

Did it ever occur to you that a Bronco fan can also be informed about geo politics? There is no intrinsic contradiction.

MHG

There is when he comes in here and chastizes everybody for watching football. I guess we should all be home with our heads under the covers dreading the apocalypse.

Rohirrim
06-17-2009, 10:03 AM
See because I thought he meant that the reformist and the people were going to try a coup on the ruling govt. Are you sure he meant that it was the current govt staging a coup?

Gaff is right a coup is led by the people not in power, at least that's what I always thought.

Who really cares though it's fun to see the Iranian people show there govt they are pissed about how they live.

A coup is when individuals take power against the will of the people. Actually, I meant to put a question mark behind the thread title but so what? There were forty million ballots cast. They announced the winner a couple of hours after the polls closed. They couldn't possibly have counted the hand written ballots in that time. Ergo, a coup. It appears Khamenei might have been behind this one. Will see how it comes out in the wash.

That One Guy
06-17-2009, 10:19 AM
Well Egypt has always said any effort ot impede the Nile's flow through Egypt would mean war.

Iraq probably getting screwed by Turkey and Iran for water because they know they can get away with it.

I don't anything about it but it sounds reasonable.

Water is the key and the whole Mideast running out of it. Better build some Saudi style desalination plants. They use a ton of power though but the technology works. It's just they burn though a few million barrels of oil a yr or something crazy like that.

We may even have to think about desalination as a way for drinking water because as country grows we will need more water.

If Global Warming is as dire as predicted we could face tougher water management issues in the future.

Maybe a few more nuclear power plants that supply energy for desalination and electricity wouldn't be a bad idea.

I guess I had never heard that about Egypt but it makes sense. These people are asserting their right to the rivers without regard to those who live downstream. Much of who is being punished by Iran daming up the river is the Shia in the south but Iran is simply watching out for themselves.