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Muddled
06-16-2009, 02:38 PM
Cutler seemed to write a how-to book on The Right Way To Force a Trade. If the Broncos deal Marshall, the next time a star feeling underpaid (Ryan Clady, Ryan Harris, Eddie Royal, i.e.) wants out, the Broncos will have shown they're weak and ineffective with unhappy players. That's why I feel strongly they won't let Marshall out, and they'll let him sit as long as he wants, even if that means he won't be in camp by September.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/06/16/mail/index.html?eref=T1

Good point

SouthStndJunkie
06-16-2009, 02:40 PM
I agree 100% with his take.

Play hard ball and don't trade him....the Broncos hold all the cards (just like they did with Cutler).

UberBroncoMan
06-16-2009, 02:40 PM
To bad Marshall's own agent just said the Broncos FO are a bunch of ****ing pussies and can't wait to humbly facilitate Marshall's need for a trade.

ward63
06-16-2009, 02:43 PM
I agree with this also 100%

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-16-2009, 02:45 PM
Too bad his agent isn't Bus Cook. Otherwise, he might get his wish.

Orange Blood
06-16-2009, 02:46 PM
Too bad his agent isn't Bus Cook. Otherwise, he might get his wish.

Who the **** is Kennard McGuire? Who the **** does he think he is? He's a nobody in this business and he isn't getting ****.

Rabb
06-16-2009, 02:52 PM
To bad Marshall's own agent just said the Broncos FO are a bunch of ****ing pussies and can't wait to humbly facilitate Marshall's need for a trade.

we are taking that for fact though, much like the Cutler situation there was a lot of "misunderstandings" to the way things really happened on both ends

if I am not there to hear it, I don't believe a word out of their mouths right now

Raidersbane
06-16-2009, 02:54 PM
Who the **** is Kennard McGuire? Who the **** does he think he is? He's a nobody in this business and he isn't getting ****.

Answer to your question: http://msworldllc.com/

Man-Goblin
06-16-2009, 02:56 PM
Who the **** is Kennard McGuire? Who the **** does he think he is? He's a nobody in this business and he isn't getting ****.

I think he is Jerry's cousin.

lostknight
06-16-2009, 02:56 PM
It's too bad the Broncos already shafted themselves with how they handled the Cutler mess.

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-16-2009, 02:58 PM
I think he is Jerry's cousin.

He might be Mark's uncle.

bronco militia
06-16-2009, 03:09 PM
It's too bad the Broncos already shafted themselves with how they handled the Cutler mess.

yep

broncocalijohn
06-16-2009, 03:12 PM
King is correct. You do this again after the Cutler mess, you will have players in Denver and elsewhere requesting the extension or demand a trade. He will be losing money if he doesnt show up on time. Lucky for him, though, he isnt Ashley Lelie.

theAPAOps5
06-16-2009, 03:17 PM
Just because Marshalls agent said the team will accomodate it doesn't mean that is the team stance. By saying that publicly he essentially put teams on notice to go ahead and give me and the Broncos a call.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
06-16-2009, 04:20 PM
this is funny. i'm rolling around with my mobile phone laughing about this s***. now this is unpresidented.

can anybody tell me the last time a QB was trade or cut after making the probowl?1. cutler

now can anybody tell me the last time a probowl WR was cut or traded after making the probowl? a whole bunch more than 1 guy. like plexico, tj "whosyourmama" and others.

king is funny!

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-16-2009, 04:29 PM
No doubt it's happened with other receivers. I think King is saying it's setting a dangerous precedent as the Broncos are concerned. That, if this happens with Marshall after it's happened with Cutler, then it be easy for other Broncos to do the same if they so inclined.

DenverBrit
06-16-2009, 04:43 PM
Who the **** is Kennard McGuire? Who the **** does he think he is? He's a nobody in this business and he isn't getting ****.

He's the same agent who used similar tactics and forced Green Bay into trading Javon Walker........sound familiar?

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-16-2009, 04:46 PM
He's the same agent who used similar tactics and forced Green Bay into trading Javon Walker........sound familiar?

He seems to be collecting damaged goods as his clientele.

DenverBrit
06-16-2009, 04:51 PM
He seems to be collecting damaged goods as his clientele.

Exactly. Force a trade or new contract while the player can't pass a physical and create a no win situation for the team.

But on the Mane, that's all McPoopyPants fault. Ha!

footstepsfrom#27
06-16-2009, 05:11 PM
Exactly. Force a trade or new contract while the player can't pass a physical and create a no win situation for the team.

But on the Mane, that's all McPoopyPants fault. Ha!
He obviously can't be traded to another team unless he passes their physical...see Al Wilson...as to the contract, are you actually saying this team is so mind numbingly stupid they'd not check his health situation out prior to offering a contract? Even I wouldn't suggest that.

King is right...and in fact it's already happened with Cutler which is why we're seeing the current problem. Trading Marshall now will open the floodgates to other players wanting out if this thing goes south.

DenverBrit
06-16-2009, 05:21 PM
He obviously can't be traded to another team unless he passes their physical...see Al Wilson...as to the contract, are you actually saying this team is so mind numbingly stupid they'd not check his health situation out prior to offering a contract? Even I wouldn't suggest that.

King is right...and in fact it's already happened with Cutler which is why we're seeing the current problem. Trading Marshall now will open the floodgates to other players wanting out if this thing goes south.

Nope. I'm saying that trying to force a trade while he can't pass a physical puts the team in a no-win situation; Can't trade him, can't give him the contract he's demanding.

And yes, I agree, King is exactly right.

broncofan2438
06-16-2009, 05:23 PM
I agree as we all do, but its the Broncos..they let Cutler walk away...why not Marshall? Give me a break........this sucks ass

eddie mac
06-16-2009, 05:34 PM
To bad Marshall's own agent just said the Broncos FO are a bunch of ****ing pussies and can't wait to humbly facilitate Marshall's need for a trade.

Says the greedy bastard who's looking his 10-20% of Marshall's new signing bonus. These leech like mother-****ers have ruined every sport on this planet.

footstepsfrom#27
06-16-2009, 05:50 PM
Nope. I'm saying that trying to force a trade while he can't pass a physical puts the team in a no-win situation; Can't trade him, can't give him the contract he's demanding.

And yes, I agree, King is exactly right.
What makes you think he can't pass a physical? Maybe in post operative stage, you may be right, but there's plenty of time for him to heal and pass one.

Bowlen should let him sit and try working this out by producing some kind of compromise between now and the season opener.

footstepsfrom#27
06-16-2009, 05:51 PM
Says the greedy bastard who's looking his 10-20% of Marshall's new signing bonus. These leech like mother-****ers have ruined every sport on this planet.
This one's an ex-NFL player and seems like a pretty sharp cookie. People get paid for what they do, in this case it makes their client millions...why is that a problem?

Northman
06-16-2009, 05:53 PM
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DenverBrit
06-16-2009, 05:55 PM
What makes you think he can't pass a physical? Maybe in post operative stage, you may be right, but there's plenty of time for him to heal and pass one.

Bowlen should let him sit and try working this out by producing some kind of compromise between now and the season opener.

Apparently he can't, unless there's another reason he was expected to attend but not participate during mini-camp.


He is recovering from an injured hip that wasn't surgically repaired until April 1.


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12597567

DenverBrit
06-16-2009, 06:01 PM
What makes you think he can't pass a physical? Maybe in post operative stage, you may be right, but there's plenty of time for him to heal and pass one.

Bowlen should let him sit and try working this out by producing some kind of compromise between now and the season opener.

I think that's what McD is going to do......or trying to.

footstepsfrom#27
06-16-2009, 06:03 PM
Apparently he can't, unless there's another reason he was expected to attend but not participate during mini-camp.
The fact that he was expected to be here and rehab doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't pass the physical, but even if that's true, I doubt that means much at this point. The real question is what his physical condition is like in 6 weeks or so. I'm sure any team trading for him is going to understand he's got to be brought along at a pace that doesn't jeopardize his ability to play by reinjuring himself.

The bigger question is why he wants to leave.

DenverBrit
06-16-2009, 06:08 PM
The fact that he was expected to be here and rehab doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't pass the physical, but even if that's true, I doubt that means much at this point. The real question is what his physical condition is like in 6 weeks or so. I'm sure any team trading for him is going to understand he's got to be brought along at a pace that doesn't jeopardize his ability to play by reinjuring himself.

The bigger question is why he wants to leave.

I've been wondering about that.
I keep coming back to his agent who had the same situation in Green Bay with Javon Walker. ???

Los Broncos
06-16-2009, 06:14 PM
Good take there, thanks for that.

DBroncos4life
06-16-2009, 06:25 PM
man you guys really think he wouldn't pass a NFL physical :rofl:

FireFly
06-16-2009, 06:27 PM
It's too bad the Broncos already shafted themselves with how they handled the Cutler mess.

Which is all the more reason to deal with this one properly.

The Broncos are going to have to draw a line in the sand at some point or they're just going to keep getting biatch slapped.

The way I see it, they could have done it with Cutler. They now have an opportunity to do it with Marshall. The writer is right in that if they let him go its only a matter of time before its Clady, Harris or someone else.

FireFly
06-16-2009, 06:29 PM
I think that's what McD is going to do......or trying to.

But who holds the power atm? Bowlen or McDaniels?

I have the distinct impression that the answer to this questions holds huge rammifications pertaining to outcome of this situaiton.

TonyR
06-16-2009, 06:31 PM
...are you actually saying this team is so mind numbingly stupid they'd not check his health situation out prior to offering a contract? Even I wouldn't suggest that.


Funny, because you've been suggesting that for the last 24+ hours and I've been ripping you and telling you how wrong you are. I'm glad to see you've finally come around but the revisionist history angle is interesting...

GoBroncos84
06-16-2009, 07:29 PM
He is right. A big part of running an organization, from the head coach to the owner, is being able to resolve problems and be diplomatic. You cannot trade everyone who becomes disgruntled. They should not have traded Jay, they should not trade Brandon. But there is a good shot that our best two offensive players (no disrespect to Clady) will be gone. The Cards didnt trade Boldin right when he asked for a trade, and he played well and the team goes to the Super Bowl. Peppers hasnt been traded. Ochocinco is still a Bengal. You make it work, you don't give in every time. McDaniels has a lot to prove. I don't want to bash him, i've done enough of that. But at some point he has to prove he can resolve issues in house and be a diplomat.


This is the worst offseason I have ever endured.

SoCalBronco
06-16-2009, 07:50 PM
I agree 100% with his take.

Play hard ball and don't trade him....the Broncos hold all the cards (just like they did with Cutler).

Yeah...that'll show him. It's ok if we're 3-13, the key thing is that the Broncos showed Marshall who's boss. Everything else be damned! It's not like we're in this to win games, anyway.

The reality is that the Broncos do NOT hold all the cards. While they certainly can just sit there and force him to either sit out and forfeit game checks (and a portion of his SB), between the loss of Cutler AND Marshall will almost certainly ensure that the season is a failure of biblical proportions. Are they willing to accept that after all the **** they've ALREADY taken?

How much embarassment and losing do you think the fans would accept before there was a serious and widespread drumbeat for some kind of action?

The Broncos certainly have ALOT of power in terms of hurting Brandon, but they'd be cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Dudeskey
06-17-2009, 12:32 AM
Yep, I'm w/ Peter King on this one. Play hardball & fine the piss out of him. You trade him & you're basically leaving the door open for any primadonna **** to bitch and moan their way into a trade...

NFLBRONCO
06-17-2009, 12:46 AM
Do we have any primadonna's left?

fdf
06-17-2009, 10:14 AM
Do we have any primadonna's left?

I hear Engleberger, McCree, and Webster are now planning holdouts.

DenverBrit
06-17-2009, 10:17 AM
But who holds the power atm? Bowlen or McDaniels?

I have the distinct impression that the answer to this questions holds huge rammifications pertaining to outcome of this situaiton.



It does seem as though Bowlen hasn't given up on the idea of being 'more involved.'

So far, it hasn't helped.

epicSocialism4tw
06-17-2009, 10:32 AM
The bigger question is why he wants to leave.

Marshall is angling for a contract extension or an exit for the same reason that Jay was. They see the writing on the wall.

They see a dictator of a coach who has no concern over whether or not they get the contracts that they earned by doing what Shanahan had asked of them, and the arrogant 32-year coach wont even show them any respect in public. Not to mention that the coach's little golden boy QB's arent the type of player that can help another offensive player earn a nice contract.

These players arent in it to make as little money as possible so that the fans can think fondly of them for a couple of minutes. They are in it to earn money for themselves and their families.

This franchise made a huge mistake by hiring McD. That much is already proven. Bowlen could have rectified the mistake by firing him for the Cutler fiasco, but evidently he wants to see this thing destroyed even further.

epicSocialism4tw
06-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Yeah...that'll show him. It's ok if we're 3-13, the key thing is that the Broncos showed Marshall who's boss. Everything else be damned! It's not like we're in this to win games, anyway.

I think that its pretty much going to be a rebuilding year. There are too many holes, too many uncertainties, and too many offseason distractions to overcome. Im not expecting anything better than .500.

The reality is that the Broncos do NOT hold all the cards. While they certainly can just sit there and force him to either sit out and forfeit game checks (and a portion of his SB), between the loss of Cutler AND Marshall will almost certainly ensure that the season is a failure of biblical proportions. Are they willing to accept that after all the **** they've ALREADY taken?

The team will not get adequate compensation for him. Losing Marshall may even shut the McD apologists up for good (at least the sane ones anyway). This ship is going down. Its just a matter of time. It wont get rebuilt until this incarnation gets burned to ashes, and the new Broncos will be completely different. McD may have just issued the death penalty to the franchise. SMU football here we come.

How much embarassment and losing do you think the fans would accept before there was a serious and widespread drumbeat for some kind of action?

They have already accepted injury after insult after injury after insult, and keep coming back for more...apologizing for the idiot coach all the while.

Mr.Meanie
06-17-2009, 10:41 AM
now can anybody tell me the last time a probowl WR was cut or traded after making the probowl?

Deion Branch was traded after being Superbowl MVP...

BroncoBuff
06-17-2009, 11:13 AM
We have no choice but to play hardball because the market is glutted with proven WRs ... Anquan Boldin, Chad Johnson, Donald Driver, Plaxico Burruss. There's no way we'd get fair value right now.

rastaman
06-17-2009, 11:53 AM
Yep, I'm w/ Peter King on this one. Play hardball & fine the piss out of him. You trade him & you're basically leaving the door open for any primadonna **** to b**** and moan their way into a trade...

Peter King and the rest of you guys are missing the point! Do you really want to force BMarsh to be a Bronco merely b/c he's under contract, despite the fact he's under paid and disgruntled?

The Broncos can enforce they're will with the threat of heavily fining BMarsh and making him play out his contract....but BMarsh can enforce his will as well.

What this will breed in the end will be Marshall coming into to camp so he doesnt loose money, but BMarsh will also under perform on purpose and play tothe level of other players who make the same salary he currently is paid.

Will this be exceptable to Bowlen, McD, and the Fans? No it won't. But hey this is what happens, when you force a player to play out his contract when that player wants out b/c he's been under paid and can't get a new contract.

So on the one hand the Broncos win by making him stay a Bronco, but that does not equate to a happy BMarsh nor does it assure in 2009, the team and fans will get the BMarsh performances of 07 & 08. Brandon's pay is mediocre so his play should be sup-par as well. Brandon just needs to play well enough not to get benched. Thats how he plays his way out of Denver to sign with a team who will pay him for his talents.

All Brandon needs to do in 09 is just show glimpses of his talents. He no longer needs to play with reckless abandon by running hard and continue to be difficult to tackle after every reception and risk injury, I mean why bother the Broncos aren't paying him anyway.

So Brandon needs to save his body by going down with arm tackles or with the first hit or by stepping out of bounds when the opportunity present itself! He just needs to catch the ball and score TD's when he's in the end zone. Brandon's leverage will be remaining healthy by not getting dinged up b/c it takes two to three tacklers to bring him down on every reception. Remember, Denver isn't paying him a top 5 WR salary to play with reckless abandon!!! Denver is paying BMarsh the level of salary you get paid for getting "Armed Tackled"!!!!

Meanwhile, at every opportunity he needs to let it be known he wants to be traded all season long in 2009. Brandon can still go out and perform while having McD on ignore and not buy into his BS. When you're forced to stay where you don't want to be, you're nolonger a part of a team.....you're in prison! And you do what you must to survive!

Denver can't fine or bench BMarsh b/c he doesn't play with reckless abandon anymore or he periodically drops a few passes! NFL teams will see their is a battle of wills going on and know BMarsh is still one of the top 5 WR's playing for an Organization he nolonger wants to be apart of.

Should this scenario play out, in the end, Denver looses out b/c they can't say BMarsh has put up Pro Bowl stats, and justify he's worth a 1st, 3rd, and 4th pick. This is the risk you run by forcing BMarsh to play out his contract. One or two years from now BMarsh still gets a big pay day b/c he has youth on his side. That's his leverage.

Careful what you wish for.

boltaneer
06-17-2009, 12:08 PM
Peter King and the rest of you guys are missing the point! Do you really want to force BMarsh to be a Bronco merely b/c he's under contract, despite the fact he's under paid and disgruntled?

The Broncos can enforce they're will with the threat of heavily fining BMarsh and making him play out his contract....but BMarsh can enforce his will as well.

What this will breed in the end will be Marshall coming into to camp so he doesnt loose money, but BMarsh will also under perform on purpose and play tothe level of other players who make the same salary he currently is paid.

Will this be exceptable to Bowlen, McD, and the Fans? No it won't. But hey this is what happens, when you force a player to play out his contract when that player wants out b/c he's been under paid and can't get a new contract.

So on the one hand the Broncos win by making him stay a Bronco, but that does not equate to a happy BMarsh nor does it assure in 2009, the team and fans will get the BMarsh performances of 07 & 08. Brandon's pay is mediocre so his play should be sup-par as well. Brandon just needs to play well enough not to get benched. Thats how he plays his way out of Denver to sign with a team who will pay him for his talents.

All Brandon needs to do in 09 is just show glimpses of his talents. He no longer needs to play with reckless abandon by running hard and continue to be difficult to tackle after every reception and risk injury, I mean why bother the Broncos aren't paying him anyway.

So Brandon needs to save his body by going down with arm tackles or with the first hit or by stepping out of bounds when the opportunity present itself! He just needs to catch the ball and score TD's when he's in the end zone. Brandon's leverage will be remaining healthy by not getting dinged up b/c it takes two to three tacklers to bring him down on every reception. Remember, Denver isn't paying him a top 5 WR salary to play with reckless abandon!!! Denver is paying BMarsh the level of salary you get paid for getting "Armed Tackled"!!!!

Meanwhile, at every opportunity he needs to let it be known he wants to be traded all season long in 2009. Brandon can still go out and perform while having McD on ignore and not buy into his BS. When you're forced to stay where you don't want to be, you're nolonger a part of a team.....you're in prison! And you do what you must to survive!

Denver can't fine or bench BMarsh b/c he doesn't play with reckless abandon anymore or he periodically drops a few passes! NFL teams will see their is a battle of wills going on and know BMarsh is still one of the top 5 WR's playing for an Organization he nolonger wants to be apart of.

Should this scenario play out, in the end, Denver looses out b/c they can't say BMarsh has put up Pro Bowl stats, and justify he's worth a 1st, 3rd, and 4th pick. This is the risk you run by forcing BMarsh to play out his contract. One or two years from now BMarsh still gets a big pay day b/c he has youth on his side. That's his leverage.

Careful what you wish for.

Unless your name is Igor, players typically play at a higher level during their "contract year".

Mr.Meanie
06-17-2009, 12:21 PM
Peter King and the rest of you guys are missing the point! Do you really want to force BMarsh to be a Bronco merely b/c he's under contract, despite the fact he's under paid and disgruntled?

The Broncos can enforce they're will with the threat of heavily fining BMarsh and making him play out his contract....but BMarsh can enforce his will as well.

What this will breed in the end will be Marshall coming into to camp so he doesnt loose money, but BMarsh will also under perform on purpose and play tothe level of other players who make the same salary he currently is paid.

Will this be exceptable to Bowlen, McD, and the Fans? No it won't. But hey this is what happens, when you force a player to play out his contract when that player wants out b/c he's been under paid and can't get a new contract.

So on the one hand the Broncos win by making him stay a Bronco, but that does not equate to a happy BMarsh nor does it assure in 2009, the team and fans will get the BMarsh performances of 07 & 08. Brandon's pay is mediocre so his play should be sup-par as well. Brandon just needs to play well enough not to get benched. Thats how he plays his way out of Denver to sign with a team who will pay him for his talents.

All Brandon needs to do in 09 is just show glimpses of his talents. He no longer needs to play with reckless abandon by running hard and continue to be difficult to tackle after every reception and risk injury, I mean why bother the Broncos aren't paying him anyway.

So Brandon needs to save his body by going down with arm tackles or with the first hit or by stepping out of bounds when the opportunity present itself! He just needs to catch the ball and score TD's when he's in the end zone. Brandon's leverage will be remaining healthy by not getting dinged up b/c it takes two to three tacklers to bring him down on every reception. Remember, Denver isn't paying him a top 5 WR salary to play with reckless abandon!!! Denver is paying BMarsh the level of salary you get paid for getting "Armed Tackled"!!!!

Meanwhile, at every opportunity he needs to let it be known he wants to be traded all season long in 2009. Brandon can still go out and perform while having McD on ignore and not buy into his BS. When you're forced to stay where you don't want to be, you're nolonger a part of a team.....you're in prison! And you do what you must to survive!

Denver can't fine or bench BMarsh b/c he doesn't play with reckless abandon anymore or he periodically drops a few passes! NFL teams will see their is a battle of wills going on and know BMarsh is still one of the top 5 WR's playing for an Organization he nolonger wants to be apart of.

Should this scenario play out, in the end, Denver looses out b/c they can't say BMarsh has put up Pro Bowl stats, and justify he's worth a 1st, 3rd, and 4th pick. This is the risk you run by forcing BMarsh to play out his contract. One or two years from now BMarsh still gets a big pay day b/c he has youth on his side. That's his leverage.

Careful what you wish for.

Thats a 2 edged sword. If BMarsh is mediocre in the next 2 years, his "big payday" contract will be based off of mediocre reciever numbers and character issues.

It would also fuel speculation that his numbers were highly inflated because the Broncos were overly pass happy, and/or that his injuries have ruined his career.

His ONLY play here is to blow away everyone else on the field, cement himself as a top 5 reciever, and he would either get a big contract with Denver or a big contract from a team that trades for him.

Tanking 2 seasons would be a way to completely self destruct his career and it would cost him 10's of millions of dollars.

TonyR
06-17-2009, 12:22 PM
...players typically play at a higher level during their "contract year".

He spent all that time on that post but this finer point was lost on him, apparently. He's going to play down to the level of his compensation. That's a good one.

rastaman
06-17-2009, 01:02 PM
Thats a 2 edged sword. If BMarsh is mediocre in the next 2 years, his "big payday" contract will be based off of mediocre reciever numbers and character issues.

It would also fuel speculation that his numbers were highly inflated because the Broncos were overly pass happy, and/or that his injuries have ruined his career.

His ONLY play here is to blow away everyone else on the field, cement himself as a top 5 reciever, and he would either get a big contract with Denver or a big contract from a team that trades for him.

Tanking 2 seasons would be a way to completely self destruct his career and it would cost him 10's of millions of dollars.

Good points. Brandon however will do well not to continue his reckless play of allowing 2 to 3 players to tackle him this only invites the likelihood of sustaining more injuries. BMarsh will need to play smarter to extend his playing career.

Despite it all, Brandon is now walking into a situation that may hinder his production, and it could end with a negative view of him as far as player production. Learning a offense and loosing Cutler, Brandon will have difficulty catching 100 passes and getting over 1200 yards in passing yards when your QB is Orton. No slight against Orton....but face, Orton is no Cutler.

He deserves a vote of confidence for what he's already done, and if not, to be given that vote of confidence by someone else.

It's simply business. If you've done a good job, you ask for a raise, and if you're employer says no after two years of a stellar job, you find someone new to pay you what you deserve.

rastaman
06-17-2009, 01:42 PM
He spent all that time on that post but this finer point was lost on him, apparently. He's going to play down to the level of his compensation. That's a good one.

At this point, it appears that when head coach Josh McDaniels came to town, he brought the circus with him. Maybe deep down inside McDaniels is really a Chicago Bears fan. Rumor out there has the Bears interested in BMarsh services as well.

BrainSaladSurgery
06-17-2009, 01:50 PM
This sh*t is too funny to make up. Welcome to the AFCW cellar, jackasses. :wiggle: