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chawknz
06-13-2009, 12:00 PM
True story!

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12584852
(Thanks BMarsh615)

Northman
06-13-2009, 12:01 PM
Mmmm, ok. I thought for sure the Punter was going to win it. He has a stronger arm than Cutler.

footstepsfrom#27
06-13-2009, 12:04 PM
Well that's a relief.

BroncoBuff
06-13-2009, 12:05 PM
550 post rule.

chawknz
06-13-2009, 12:07 PM
Aw you're just mad our boy Simms didn't make it.

BMarsh615
06-13-2009, 12:08 PM
link?

BroncoBuff
06-13-2009, 12:08 PM
Aw you're just mad our boy Simms didn't make it.

I'm not convinced he didn't .... yet.

No way they named a starter yet.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 12:10 PM
link!

BMarsh615
06-13-2009, 12:12 PM
It is true lol.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12584852

Denver Broncos Head Coach Josh McDaniels just named Kyle Orton his starting qaurterback. Orton had been competing with Chris Simms for the job throughut the season.
Orton, who was acquired from the Chicago Bears in April as part of the Jay Cutler trade, was named the starter with two days remaining in the Broncos' off-season minicamp training program.
He will start regular training camp in July as the Broncos' No. 1 quarterback.

BMarsh615
06-13-2009, 12:12 PM
And yes. Mike Klis misspelled quarterback.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 12:12 PM
LMAO look at this http://twitter.com/KingNeckbeard

Punisher
06-13-2009, 12:14 PM
LMAO look at this http://twitter.com/KingNeckbeard

OTA's? More like OTGays!! Coach wouldn't let me drink from my hip-flask, some **** about me forgetting plays. He is such a doucheface bro!

ROFL! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

ZONA
06-13-2009, 12:14 PM
I think we all knew this was the case, but saying it was open competition only makes each guy work as hard as they can. It's a good coaching move, but let the trolls bash McD and say he doesn't know what he's doing............hahahaha.

chawknz
06-13-2009, 12:17 PM
Sorry I wasn't able to provide a link for the post. There wasn't one that I could find at the time.

BroncoBuff
06-13-2009, 12:17 PM
I think we all knew this was the case, but saying it was open competition only makes each guy work as hard as they can. It's a good coaching move, but let the trolls bash McD and say he doesn't know what he's doing............hahahaha.

Well, I'm not a troll. Fact is, Josh was just quoted yesterday saying they were making each other better by competing. Guess we can't trust him when his mouth is moving.

PaintballCLE
06-13-2009, 12:17 PM
There is a God! **** simms

Punisher
06-13-2009, 12:17 PM
**** me! I spilled so much 151 on my neckbeard last night, it's like I'm taking a shot every time I breathe! This is ****ing AWESOME bro!

LMAO!

Paladin
06-13-2009, 12:18 PM
We will see who is under Center when the games start (and that is not a "gay joke", sparkie). I am not rooting for one or the other, just that I hope they learn the system quickly and get on with polishing up the skills......

bombay
06-13-2009, 12:19 PM
Shocking

Punisher
06-13-2009, 12:20 PM
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Denver+Broncos+Minicamp+j3wP8L8dYdMl.jpg
GO ORTON!

Lolad
06-13-2009, 12:36 PM
I can see the Jerseys flying off the shelves now

Hawaii_Guy
06-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Dumb. What happened to:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12581252

It is almost like McD does not know how to make up his mind. My money is on Simms being the QB tomorrow. I wish McD would think before talking.

Flex Gunmetal
06-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Dude, if I pass out on your couch it doesn't give you the right to draw a giant cock on my face! I had to meet with Mr. Bowlen this morning!ROFL!

SouthStndJunkie
06-13-2009, 12:55 PM
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Punisher
06-13-2009, 12:57 PM
ROFL!

:rofl: :thumbs:

Cutler's no f-ing drinker. I've only seen a pic of him w/ Coors Light! Ha! I brush my teeth with that **** bro! GO HARD OR GO HOME PUSSTARD!

Hilarious!

SonOfLe-loLang
06-13-2009, 01:03 PM
Dumb. What happened to:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12581252

It is almost like McD does not know how to make up his mind. My money is on Simms being the QB tomorrow. I wish McD would think before talking.

Ummm, i think his mind was made up the minute he traded for him. Coaches have NEVER played headgames with their players before. CRAZY!

BroncoBuff
06-13-2009, 01:06 PM
I wish McD would think before talking.

Yeah, I don't feel like I can trust what he says. And it's not like Mike was, running smoke screens as a strategy ... this is just weird. Yesterday it was, "the competition will both of them stronger." Now less than 24 later, he's decided on a starter? Plus remember his story changed early on with Cutler, first "no talks," and later, "they called us."

Oh well, I will say this .. I'm sure Orton has outplayed Simms. It must be pretty clear-cut thing. I trust McD's coaching, on offense anyway.

BMarsh615
06-13-2009, 01:08 PM
You ladies think my neckbeard is impressive? You should take a gander at my crotchbeard!! High fives you cockstaches!Ha!

Punisher
06-13-2009, 01:08 PM
Ummm, i think his mind was made up the minute he traded for him. Coaches have NEVER played headgames with their players before. CRAZY!

I think he made his mind up all look time ago,and he just used Cutler as bait to bring Orton in here.

McD is a mastermind his Brain is stronger and more powerful than you worthless humans.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 01:09 PM
The best part about getting ****ed up while its raining? The rain washes the pukestains right out of your cargo shorts. DRINK UP QUEERBOTS!
LOL

Question- How many Rio margs does it take to wake up the next day on your front lawn with no pants? Answer - I can't ****ing remember bro

Hilarious!

Punisher
06-13-2009, 01:13 PM
What a weekend! Me and that kid coach Josh got all ****ed off of Boonesfarm and he was making all these crazy draft picks! It was classic!

Friday night douchebags! Time to drink till you puke on your new Banana Republic shirt and **** some fat chicks! Party like a rocktard!!

LOL

Maybe the best twitter page ever

uplink
06-13-2009, 01:16 PM
.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 01:16 PM
Last one because this one made me cry the most

The **** is a Mark Sanchez? That ****ing faghag probably drinks pink drinks through a straw! YOU CANT LEAD A TEAM DRINKING THAT FRUITY ****!

Cito Pelon
06-13-2009, 01:29 PM
Orton threw 18 TD's last year, let's start whining. Orton had less INT% last year than Cutler, let's start whining. McPoopypants said it was an open competition, let's start whining. Hillis will be traded, let's start whining. Marshall has a bad hip so McDoodoo will trade him. Royal is a Shanny guy so he'll be traded. Clady is a Shanny guy so he'll be traded. DJ is a Shanny guy so he'll be traded.

Larsen is a Shanny guy and he's not starting in June, so McDoodoo is a doodoo coach. WW didn't start in June so McFartface will go 3-12. Yeah, all the good guys will be traded or cut. Yeah, cut, because McDork is a dork.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 01:35 PM
Orton threw 18 TD's last year, let's start whining. Orton had less INT% last year than Cutler, let's start whining. McPoopypants said it was an open competition, let's start whining. Hillis will be traded, let's start whining. Marshall has a bad hip so McDoodoo will trade him. Royal is a Shanny guy so he'll be traded. Clady is a Shanny guy so he'll be traded. DJ is a Shanny guy so he'll be traded.

Larsen is a Shanny guy and he's not starting in June, so McDoodoo is a doodoo coach. WW didn't start in June so McFartface will go 3-12. Yeah, all the good guys will be traded or cut. Yeah, cut, because McDork is a dork.

:rofl:

TheReverend
06-13-2009, 01:36 PM
I can see the Jerseys flying off the shelves now

I ordered 12. Will re-sale them on e-bay when they sell out tomorrow.

Cito Pelon
06-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Dawkins and Champ on the same team. For one or two years that's a good combo.

Popps
06-13-2009, 01:57 PM
I expect we'll still hear plenty of "things could change before the season starts depending on performance" along the way.

And, it's probably true.

rovolution
06-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!


god that Twitter page is classic


"Momma Orton had a nice Mothers Day. I got her a bottle of Jack Daniels Black Label and some Guiness Pint glasses. Im one classy mother****er"

doonwise
06-13-2009, 02:01 PM
I'm super impressed with the way Chris Simms has carried himself. Listening to his audio on denverbroncos.com under the video/audio tab was excellent.

Real class act.

I'm liking the guys on this team. The new regime has really done well bringing in team players; now I just hope they play like ex-cons on the field :)

Orange Blood
06-13-2009, 02:02 PM
WEAK! Simms has better tools. Stronger arm. Better footwork. More upside.

Not to mention, Simms' 2005 season > Orton's 2008 season

broncofan7
06-13-2009, 02:14 PM
Well, I'm not a troll. Fact is, Josh was just quoted yesterday saying they were making each other better by competing. Guess we can't trust him when his mouth is moving.

Exactly--Simms must have really **** the bed today or something.......

Boobs McGee
06-13-2009, 02:30 PM
Give Chris Simms credit for maintaining his sense of humor in the midst of a very real quarterback competition.
Asked after the conclusion of the first mandatory minicamp practice how he thinks he's faring in the battle with Kyle Orton, Simms joked that coach Josh McDaniels had named him the starter.
"I'm not supposed to tell you," Simms said Friday, before quickly getting serious. "We have no control over that. I just come out here and try to be my best and let the coaches make the decisions from there."
In reality, McDaniels seems in no rush to name a leader in the quest to replace Jay Cutler. Orton and Simms each took repetitions with the first-team offense Friday, though it was Orton who took the first snaps in 11-on-11 drills.

"I haven't worried about it. I figure if I get better every day and improve, I'll be the guy when it comes time to play," Orton said.
Coaches have installed "just about everything," leaving McDaniels hopeful that the worst practices might be behind them. "We're kind of at the tip of iceberg, so everything else, hopefully, will get better, and we'll streamline it to training camp these next two days here," McDaniels said. "I couldn't ask any more from two guys in terms of what they're putting in off the field and in the meeting room. They're working very hard and competing with each other, so I think they're making each other better, and that's making the Broncos better."


I guess I'm missing something here...I've reread the article a few times, and honestly can't see where everyone drew the conclusion that McDaniels was in no rush. Sure, the title says so, and the author infers this (first bolded section), but nowhere does McDaniels come out and say it.

That second bolded part leads me to believe, if anything, that he already HAS his qb picked, and will be streamlining him into the next camp days.

The last section just shows me he likes competition, and it's good for the team.

I think people are just reading into this whole thing too much. McDaniels never came out and said there was no rush, people (the author included) drew their own conclusions and put words in his mouth.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 02:38 PM
LMAO Orton just made a new tweet

Hulamau
06-13-2009, 02:40 PM
Well, I'm not a troll. Fact is, Josh was just quoted yesterday saying they were making each other better by competing. Guess we can't trust him when his mouth is moving.

What in the hell does that have to do with the price of potatoes in Idaho??

Are some of you guys mental midgets today??? Naming Orton now in no WAY SHAPE or FORM contradicts what McD said yesterday!

He said they were making each other Better .. true enough . He did not say when he would or would not name one of them as starter, The QB competition was hot and heavy as both got up to speed and learned the system but yesterday they finished installing the system and that was a good milestone point to assess where they were at and make official what he had likely known for a while now.

Even though McD likely had Orton pegged weeks ago as the guy, still going thorough this process made both of them better and now we have a decent backup QB to Orton and one who can better help Orton through the season as well.

Naming Orton now was smart too. Particularly, with Marshall holding out. Time to distract a bit from that story and show some stability there at the prime position so the whole team can rally around Orton now the next month going into Training Camp.

The timing makes perfect sense. Orton and Simms both will make even more stride the next 5 weeks than they have made so far and we should have a solid QB in Camp ready to rumble.

And lo and behold he's actually a down to earth decent guy the other players actually like. Unlike 'Mr. Autograph' Jay 'Dont ****ing bother me Kid' Cutler :wiggle:

Taco John
06-13-2009, 02:43 PM
Why in the hell would Josh name a starter in freaking June?

Taco John
06-13-2009, 02:43 PM
The timing makes perfect sense.


Man some of you will rationalize anything...

Hulamau
06-13-2009, 02:45 PM
I guess I'm missing something here...I've reread the article a few times, and honestly can't see where everyone drew the conclusion that McDaniels was in no rush. Sure, the title says so, and the author infers this (first bolded section), but nowhere does McDaniels come out and say it.

That second bolded part leads me to believe, if anything, that he already HAS his qb picked, and will be streamlining him into the next camp days.

The last section just shows me he likes competition, and it's good for the team.

I think people are just reading into this whole thing too much. McDaniels never came out and said there was no rush, people (the author included) drew their own conclusions and put words in his mouth.

Exactly, some of these guys get their weenies in a twister at the drop of a hat.

Pick Six
06-13-2009, 02:48 PM
I would be very disappointed if Orton WASN'T the "incumbent" starter, since that's the player for whom we traded Cutler. It's up to Orton to keep that job going into September...

Taco John
06-13-2009, 02:48 PM
I suppose it doesn't matter. I can't imagine either of these quarterbacks lasting a season in Denver. Who cares which of them get fed to the wolves first?

Kaylore
06-13-2009, 02:51 PM
Why in the hell would Josh name a starter in freaking June?

Because you have to have a depth chart when camp starts. Um, Shanahan did this. He had a depth chart for camp. Was it stupid then too? Are you people going to second guess everything the man does?

Taco John
06-13-2009, 02:56 PM
Because you have to have a depth chart when camp starts. Um, Shanahan did this. He had a depth chart for camp. Was it stupid then too? Are you people going to second guess everything the man does?

Until he wins, probably. It's not like I want to. It just happens. In fairness, he's given plenty of reasons to second guess him. Plenty of them. We still don't have a d-line, do we? It was pretty well universally agreed that this was our number one priority going into this season, and it's been given not last priority but NO PRIORITY.

And I still think he should have left it open. Neither Simms or Orton are head and shoulders above the other? Why not make it clear that it's an open competition? The depth chart doesn't HAVE to be set in June.

HooptyHoops
06-13-2009, 02:58 PM
I suppose it doesn't matter. I can't imagine either of these quarterbacks lasting a season in Denver. Who cares which of them get fed to the wolves first?

They'll last...neither of them will have a scratch on them as we have the best oline in football...

Taco John
06-13-2009, 02:59 PM
They'll last...neither of them will have a scratch on them as we have the best oline in football...


I'd love to see Orton in the Pro-Bowl this season. I don't care what any of these guys do off the field so long as they're taking care of business on Sunday.

Hulamau
06-13-2009, 03:01 PM
Why in the hell would Josh name a starter in freaking June?

He was ALWAYS going to name a started before Camp =Taco he even said as much shortly after trading for Orton when he was said there was serious competition. He said he wanted to go into Camp with the Guy in charge but that in the meantime it would be serious competition.
This is the last of organized activities.

This team needs a stable face right now as well to rally around. And it does make perfect sense to do it now at the end of OTA.s

Did you really think he would keep the whole team guessing well into traing camp at the most important position on the field when it was clear who it was going to be now???

What in the hell sense would that make? He got what he wanted out of the competition, a solid winner and two QBs who are a lot better than they were two months ago.

Now he gets to shut up the internet jockeys and analyst who were ragging on him for trading for a guy who supposedly cant even beat out Simms.

Give a focal point for the team going into training camp and if you go listen to all his early presser he said he wanted a starter by TC. He got it.

Popps
06-13-2009, 03:02 PM
And I still think he should have left it open. Neither Simms or Orton are head and shoulders above the other? Why not make it clear that it's an open competition? The depth chart doesn't HAVE to be set in June.

Stay tuned. You'll hear McDaniels state just that.

He's made it clear that nothing is concrete and all positions are open for battle. I expect he'll address this specifically and if Simms outplays him in the pre-season, he'll definitely claim the starting job.

This is likely just to begin to establish some structure and perhaps the result of Orton picking up the offense quicker, having some experience in similar systems in college.

This isn't in stone, and McDaniels will likely remind us of that many times.

Taco John
06-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Stay tuned. You'll hear McDaniels state just that.

He's made it clear that nothing is concrete and all positions are open for battle. I expect he'll address this specifically and if Simms outplays him in the pre-season, he'll definitely claim the starting job.

This is likely just to begin to establish some structure and perhaps the result of Orton picking up the offense quicker, having some experience in similar systems in college.

This isn't in stone, and McDaniels will likely remind us of that many times.

I hope that's the case. You know that I wanted to see Griese and Plummer compete rather than one guy just being handed the job (even though I expected that Plummer would win it outright). That's all I want to see here. I think it's better for a team for a quarterback to earn his spot by outplaying the other guy, rather than just have it handed to him.

Taco John
06-13-2009, 03:07 PM
This team needs a stable face right now as well to rally around.


Well of course we need that. But since we don't have one of those on the team, the least we can do is let what we do have compete for the role.

Bronx33
06-13-2009, 03:09 PM
Because you have to have a depth chart when camp starts. Um, Shanahan did this. He had a depth chart for camp. Was it stupid then too? Are you people going to second guess everything the man does?


yes they will ( get used to it) :sunshine:

Hulamau
06-13-2009, 03:12 PM
Until he wins, probably. It's not like I want to. It just happens. In fairness, he's given plenty of reasons to second guess him. Plenty of them. We still don't have a d-line, do we? It was pretty well universally agreed that this was our number one priority going into this season, and it's been given not last priority but NO PRIORITY.

And I still think he should have left it open. Neither Simms or Orton are head and shoulders above the other? Why not make it clear that it's an open competition? The depth chart doesn't HAVE to be set in June.

It WAS an open competition Taco .. ORTON WON! fair and square .. do you think both he and Simms are now going to revert to picking buggers all day now that the competition is officially over???

Forget it! Simm's knows this is a golden shot for him too and he's just one play away from starting all year long.

McD sent a clear message to the whole team with the open competition between the top two guys and showed it was a fair deal.

Would be counterproductive to go on keeping up a charade now that its over. A fact that, no doubt, the rest of the team could notice as well. Now Orton has the real voice of authority in the huddle and the team can fall in line between now and Camp and come out more in sync.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-13-2009, 03:13 PM
Schadenfreude.

Bronx33
06-13-2009, 03:16 PM
It's saturday bob shouldn't you be knee deep in anal sex with your man or are you multitasking?

kamakazi_kal
06-13-2009, 03:30 PM
HA HA .... man, that "open" competition didn't last very long...... You better make it happen Orton. For better or worse dude is the QB of the Broncos...

oi.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 03:35 PM
It's saturday bob shouldn't you be knee deep in anal sex with your man or are you multitasking?

Anal is nothing to Bob he loves getting train by a fleet of Japs,it makes him feel like a happy whore.

BroncoInSkinland
06-13-2009, 03:35 PM
Even though McD likely had Orton pegged weeks ago as the guy, still going thorough this process made both of them better and now we have a decent backup QB to Orton and one who can better help Orton through the season as well.

Naming Orton now was smart too. Particularly, with Marshall holding out. Time to distract a bit from that story and show some stability there at the prime position so the whole team can rally around Orton now the next month going into Training Camp.

Second paragraph first, anyone that can't see this as taking the edge off the Marshall situation is incredibly naive. This was lets steal the headline, or at least put a little focus elsewhere. It will probably work and buy some time at the least.

Re Orton pegged weeks ago, I don't think so. He probably had him out front, but I believe that it was a competition, and that the competition continues. The starter in June is titular. In the brief NFL network blurb I saw, McDaniels mention something related to that twice, I think one of the direct quotes is "Both players know nothing is set in stone in June". Orton has the lead, and probably has from the beginning, but I think it would be a mistake to count Simms out.

Fairly good move on McDaniels part here, grab the headlines without really saying anything. As for the guys ragging on him for lying every time his mouth moves, to a certain extent that is part of being a coach, at least when you are playing the media. I am not a huge fan of his overall methodology, but this seems like a stange thing to bash at him for.

Cito Pelon
06-13-2009, 03:36 PM
I suppose it doesn't matter. I can't imagine either of these quarterbacks lasting a season in Denver. Who cares which of them get fed to the wolves first?

Orton will play well. He's used to winning.

TheReverend
06-13-2009, 03:39 PM
Dawkins and Champ on the same team. For one or two years that's a good combo.

ROFL!

He's off the field for over 60% of the plays...

Wes Mantooth
06-13-2009, 03:52 PM
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Denver+Broncos+Minicamp+j3wP8L8dYdMl.jpg
GO ORTON!

Thought that was Jeff Lewis

Hulamau
06-13-2009, 03:57 PM
Second paragraph first, anyone that can't see this as taking the edge off the Marshall situation is incredibly naive. This was lets steal the headline, or at least put a little focus elsewhere. It will probably work and buy some time at the least.

Re Orton pegged weeks ago, I don't think so. He probably had him out front, but I believe that it was a competition, and that the competition continues. The starter in June is titular. In the brief NFL network blurb I saw, McDaniels mention something related to that twice, I think one of the direct quotes is "Both players know nothing is set in stone in June". Orton has the lead, and probably has from the beginning, but I think it would be a mistake to count Simms out.

Fairly good move on McDaniels part here, grab the headlines without really saying anything. As for the guys ragging on him for lying every time his mouth moves, to a certain extent that is part of being a coach, at least when you are playing the media. I am not a huge fan of his overall methodology, but this seems like a stange thing to bash at him for.

you may not like how he picks players but how can you not like the detailed hands on way he teaches on the field adn the creative drills they are running as well. Some of them are typical but others are not so common and focus on the little things that make a huge difference like stripping the ball, batting it down at the line. Filming foot work at ground level for the QB's etc etc.?

gyldenlove
06-13-2009, 04:08 PM
There are several reasons to make Orton the starter now, firstly it puts the pressure on Orton to keep Simms behind him and it puts the pressure on Simms to be better than Orton. It also makes it a lot easier for the rest of the first team offense to prepare because they know which QB they will play with.

I am not surprised Orton got named starter, I am surprised it didn't happen earlier.

Punisher
06-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Maybe if Orton plays well we can trade him for two 1st round picks

BroncoInSkinland
06-13-2009, 04:22 PM
you may not like how he picks players but how can you not like the detailed hands on way he teaches on the field adn the creative drills they are running as well. Some of them are typical but others are not so common and focus on the little things that make a huge difference like stripping the ball, batting it down at the line. Filming foot work at ground level for the QB's etc etc.?

It does look good, and thanks for the min-camp wrap ups BTW. I have never had a problem with McDaniels for the on the field stuff. Not positive he will be quite the chess player Shanny was as far as play calling went, but then Shanahan was slipping on that (outside of his pre-scripted starts) towards the end as well. It is the FO stuff that I have the most concerns with. So many ways this could have gone better. I really wish the Goodmans had been what Bowlen said they were going to be at first.

BroncoInSkinland
06-13-2009, 04:32 PM
I think one of the direct quotes is "Both players know nothing is set in stone in June".

Just saw the after practice interview again, the exact quote is "...both know nothing is determined in June." There was also mention of this creating pressure, one has it and wants to keep it, the other wants to go out and get it. PR talk, I think someone has been coaching the coach, maybe the PR guy we had an article on the other day, can't remember his name. Josh is definitely getting more polished, looks like a quick learner. Too bad the first test (Cutler) was the most important.

dumpy
06-13-2009, 04:37 PM
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Denver+Broncos+Minicamp+j3wP8L8dYdMl.jpg
GO ORTON!

He's holding his left hand like it should have a bottle of Jack in it.

vindico
06-13-2009, 04:37 PM
My asshat coach wants me to go over the playbook today! Its Cinco de Mayo kid! Lets hang with our Mexibros, eat Taco Bell, and drink Cuervo!
Does anyone that works at McD's speak English in CO? I don't know how the **** to say egg mcmuffin in mexican bro, give me my damn sandwich!

Kyle Orton is a piece of racist trash!!!

BroncoBuff
06-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Are you people going to second guess everything the man does?

Second guess? Are you serious Khan? Barely 24 hours ago he said he was in "no hurry" to name a starter. No, this is some real double-talk outta this guy ... not that it matters all that much, but it proves he's gonna be tough to trust. Maybe he was ticked off that Chris jokingly told a reporter he had "won" the starting job yesterday, I dunno. But that is definitley a curious bit of double-talk ... especially in that, unlike Mike's double-talk, this things has no competitive advantage ???

I don't like what he said about Weigmann the other day either ... very dismissive of the guy. Whether you give him a better deal or not, you can't deny Weigmann was a deserving Pro-Bowler for this team ... he deserves respectful treatment in public from the staff and coaches.


And now .....

GO KYLE!!!!!!!

FireFly
06-13-2009, 06:18 PM
Because you have to have a depth chart when camp starts. Um, Shanahan did this. He had a depth chart for camp. Was it stupid then too? Are you people going to second guess everything the man does?

I was just about to post the exact same thing!

Beyond this, the teams needs stability and direction. Naming a starting QB, establishing some sort of leadership hierarchy does this.

While secretly supporting Simms from the begining I can't help but endorse this move. I'll even now go so far as to say that I hope he holds onto the job throughout training camp.

FireFly
06-13-2009, 06:19 PM
Oh, but I also think that this will change for at least one preseason game.

In fact, the whole QB battle will actually make the preseason games worth watching!

slyinky
06-13-2009, 06:41 PM
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watermock
06-13-2009, 07:20 PM
Love the blowhorn!

Rock Chalk
06-13-2009, 07:54 PM
Man some of you will rationalize anything...

And some of you complain about anything...

What does it matter? Honestly, why does it matter if Orton is named starter or Simms is named starter in June?

outdoor_miner
06-13-2009, 09:38 PM
Second guess? Are you serious Khan? Barely 24 hours ago he said he was in "no hurry" to name a starter. No, this is some real double-talk outta this guy ... not that it matters all that much, but it proves he's gonna be tough to trust. Maybe he was ticked off that Chris jokingly told a reporter he had "won" the starting job yesterday, I dunno. But that is definitley a curious bit of double-talk ... especially in that, unlike Mike's double-talk, this things has no competitive advantage ???

I don't like what he said about Weigmann the other day either ... very dismissive of the guy. Whether you give him a better deal or not, you can't deny Weigmann was a deserving Pro-Bowler for this team ... he deserves respectful treatment in public from the staff and coaches.


And now .....

GO KYLE!!!!!!!

Do you have a quote where McDaniels said that he was in "no hurry"? I read that article, and I did not see a single quote from him. Looked to me like a reporter created a story, and basically said that McDaniels does not seem to be in a hurry. Not trying to be a jerk, and maybe I missed it... Did McDaniels actually say anything to start this?

Punisher
06-13-2009, 09:44 PM
http://www.canadianafghansports.org/pics/cac_2008_out_soccer_cup.jpg

BroncoBuff
06-13-2009, 10:07 PM
Do you have a quote where McDaniels said that he was in "no hurry"? I read that article, and I did not see a single quote from him. Looked to me like a reporter created a story, and basically said that McDaniels does not seem to be in a hurry. Not trying to be a jerk, and maybe I missed it... Did McDaniels actually say anything to start this?

Maybe not a direct quote, I explain here: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2443808#post2443808

Popps
06-13-2009, 11:34 PM
I hope that's the case. .

Already quoted McDaniels for you. It's the case.

rather than one guy just being handed the job .

Orton isn't being handed the job. Listen to McDaniels speak. This guy is no joke, despite what the widow-crew around here may think. He's not going to hand anything to anyone. Those days are over.

In fact, you may even look at it this way... maybe he felt like Simms needed a little kick in the ass? Maybe Orton appears to be taking on the playbook more effectively, and McD wants to up the competition a bit.

This may look like an endorsement for Orton, and in some way... it clearly is. But, it may just as much represent an effort to crank it up between these two.

Listen to his words. He's not going to hand anything to anyone.

People can hate him all they want, but he's going to demand that his players perform.

Popps
06-13-2009, 11:37 PM
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Taco, I hadn't seen this... but it basically just restates what I just posted. Watch it. This is still a competition, and maybe even more so after today.

footstepsfrom#27
06-13-2009, 11:49 PM
Who cares who he names as the starter? He probably flipped a coin.

BroncoBuff
06-14-2009, 01:16 AM
Listen to his words. He's not going to hand anything to anyone.

You cannot be serious, dude ... he just handed the job to Orton!

You may not have noticed Popps, but you're the only one here who's falling all over himself to fellate McDaniels ... your knee-jerk approval of everything he does - even before he does it - is unique on this board. Just so you know ;D

Popps
06-14-2009, 01:29 AM
You cannot be serious, dude ... he just handed the job to Orton!

You may not have noticed Popps, but you're the only one here who's falling all over himself to fellate McDaniels ... your knee-jerk approval of everything he does - even before he does it - is unique on this board. Just so you know ;D

Wow, you used to sort of fool around with trying to have substance to your arguments, now you're just a silly little c#nt.

Look widow-boy, if you believe that our starting QB has been crowned before a single practice in pads, you go ahead and have a great time with that. Those of us who have watched the game for a bit know better. Things can, and do change... and McDaniels made that abundantly clear.

Now, maybe take a break from tugging at my nuts for a few minutes, boy.
You were sort of interesting when you used (skewed and goofy) facts to try to back your crybaby ****. Now you're just trying to be a tough-guy, and failing miserably.

BroncoBuff
06-14-2009, 01:44 AM
Wow, you used to sort of fool around with trying to have substance to your arguments, now you're just a silly little c#nt.

Look widow-boy, if you believe that our starting QB has been crowned before a single practice in pads, you go ahead and have a great time with that. Those of us who have watched the game for a bit know better. Things can, and do change... and McDaniels made that abundantly clear.

Now, maybe take a break from tugging at my nuts for a few minutes, boy.
You were sort of interesting when you used (skewed and goofy) facts to try to back your crybaby ****. Now you're just trying to be a tough-guy, and failing miserably.

What?! You just said, after he handed Kyle the starting job, that "he doesn't hand anybody anything." You don't see any contradiction in facts there? Your response is to call me the "c" word ... and a "widow-boy"? (not sure what that means, but I'm pretty sure its an insult ::))

Seriously Popps, you knee-jerk applaud every damn thing the kid does ... even after Bowlen said he "made rookie mistakes" you defended him to the hilt.



Look, we all want Josh to do well ... but that doesn't mean we have to applaud his every waking move.

Popps
06-14-2009, 02:13 AM
What?! You just said, after he handed Kyle the starting job.

He didn't "hand" him the starting job.

Listen to his press conference. He very clearly states why Orton is the CURRENT QB taking snaps with the first team.

This is really simple ****.

Your response is to call me the "c" word ... .

Yes. Every once in a while, a male somehow embodies the c-word.

Congrats.


Seriously Popps, you knee-jerk applaud every damn thing the kid does ... even after Bowlen said he "made rookie mistakes" you defended him to the hilt..

I haven't "defended" anything. I've simply given retort with fact, instead of slanting every single news item with gloom and doom like you and your little band of widows.

We haven't seen anything take place of the field yet. So, you have no idea if anything is working or not. You're just spouting off like a whiney teenage girl.

I've simply said that I like the direction this team is taking and I'm optimistic. Sorry I'm not on your pouty crusade with you.


Look, we all want Josh to do well ... but that doesn't mean we have to applaud his every waking move.

Yea, that's highly debatable. Highly.

As for applauding his every move, no one has done any such thing. You need every move this team makes to end in failure. So, when someone takes any side but being hopeful for failure, you interpret it as "applauding."

Some of us are going to let the results shape our opinions.

Popps
06-14-2009, 02:16 AM
Honestly, I don't see anybody else here breathlessly praising every move he makes, from the way he ties his shoes to his choice of breakfast cereals. You seem to be blazing a lone path in this area ....

You've said this a few times now. Each time, it gets more boring. It's not true, and just sort of useless.

Beyond that, do I seem like I'd have any problem being a lone voice on any subject around here if I felt strongly about something?

If you think so, you're stupider than I thought.

Again, go find someone else's nuts to swing from for a while. You've just gotten tedious at this point.

Taco John
06-14-2009, 02:31 AM
Taco, I hadn't seen this... but it basically just restates what I just posted. Watch it. This is still a competition, and maybe even more so after today.


Upon retrospect and listening to what he had to say, I can recognize that at the very least he's eliminating a distraction while creating a point of focus for the team to rally. It makes me wonder if the Marshall situation might have forced his hand a little bit, doing it a little earlier than he intended. That could just be a coincidence.

I personally would have he rather waited to see them both in game situations before making a decision, but he seems convinced that Orton is that much further along than Simms, and he'd be in the position to know.

BroncoBuff
06-14-2009, 03:26 AM
You've said this a few times now. Each time, it gets more boring. It's not true, and just sort of useless.

Beyond that, do I seem like I'd have any problem being a lone voice on any subject around here if I felt strongly about something?

If you think so, you're stupider than I thought.

Again, go find someone else's nuts to swing from for a while. You've just gotten tedious at this point.

What's the point with you? You endlessly quote me and hurl barrages of silly insults at me, merely because I correctly noted your statement "he's not going to hand anybody anything" came right after he handed Kyle the starting job!

Stop running from it .... just say something like, "that's not what I meant."

It's better than calling me "stupid."

NYBronco
06-14-2009, 04:15 AM
Good move that doesn't surprise me. Now that players know their position the real compitition should begin and the offense can start to build consistency.

baja
06-14-2009, 06:02 AM
Upon retrospect and listening to what he had to say, I can recognize that at the very least he's eliminating a distraction while creating a point of focus for the team to rally. It makes me wonder if the Marshall situation might have forced his hand a little bit, doing it a little earlier than he intended. That could just be a coincidence.

I personally would have he rather waited to see them both in game situations before making a decision, but he seems convinced that Orton is that much further along than Simms, and he'd be in the position to know.

We have an Elton or an Orway in the making (Elway/Orton)

Folks meet our new starting QB, Elton Orway

baja
06-14-2009, 06:04 AM
What's the point with you? You endlessly quote me and hurl barrages of silly insults at me, merely because I correctly noted your statement "he's not going to hand anybody anything" came right after he handed Kyle the starting job!

Stop running from it .... just say something like, "that's not what I meant."

<b>It's better than calling me "stupid."


But not as much fun to be sure.... ;D

Rock Chalk
06-14-2009, 09:17 AM
Upon retrospect and listening to what he had to say, I can recognize that at the very least he's eliminating a distraction while creating a point of focus for the team to rally. It makes me wonder if the Marshall situation might have forced his hand a little bit, doing it a little earlier than he intended. That could just be a coincidence.

I personally would have he rather waited to see them both in game situations before making a decision, but he seems convinced that Orton is that much further along than Simms, and he'd be in the position to know.

I think in one of Popps rants he mentioned something that might be true. Orton may just have a better grasp on the playbook at the moment and might be pulling away from Simms. This could just be a ploy to give Simms a little kick in the ass.

When I first heard it, I was under the impression he did name Orton the starter and that competition was closed but the more I listen to this argument the more I am convinced that Orton is the current starter subject to change and that the whole thing is to just fuel the fires of competition.

outdoor_miner
06-14-2009, 09:26 AM
Maybe not a direct quote, I explain here: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2443808#post2443808

Thanks.

That sure doesn't seem like enough to call it "double talk"... The "tip of the iceberg" quote could mean literally a million different things. It could be in reference to the season as a whole... Or of learning the offense... It is definitely not a clear-cut statement that he wants to wait to name a starter.

I think the article makes it further clear that the "no hurry" part is simply something the writer concluded as his interpretation of events. Within the article, the writer says: "In reality, McDaniels seems in no rush to name a leader in the quest to replace Jay Cutler." The "seems in no rush" is obviously what the writer thinks is happening.

It's pretty clear that it is the writer's assessment of the qb battle, not something McDaniels said. I really think you're reading way way too much into that.

Rock Chalk
06-14-2009, 09:27 AM
Thanks.

That sure doesn't seem like enough to call it "double talk"... The "tip of the iceberg" quote could mean literally a million different things. It could be in reference to the season as a whole... Or of learning the offense... It is definitely not a clear-cut statement that he wants to wait to name a starter.

I think the article makes it further clear that the "no hurry" part is simply something the writer concluded as his interpretation of events. Within the article, the writer says: "In reality, McDaniels seems in no rush to name a leader in the quest to replace Jay Cutler." The "seems in no rush" is obviously what the writer thinks is happening.

It's pretty clear that it is the writer's assessment of the qb battle, not something McDaniels said. I really think you're reading way way too much into that.

He's a CU alum, his comprehensions of the written word is pretty slim.

Kaylore
06-14-2009, 11:23 AM
Until he wins, probably. It's not like I want to. It just happens. In fairness, he's given plenty of reasons to second guess him. Plenty of them. We still don't have a d-line, do we? It was pretty well universally agreed that this was our number one priority going into this season, and it's been given not last priority but NO PRIORITY.

And I still think he should have left it open. Neither Simms or Orton are head and shoulders above the other? Why not make it clear that it's an open competition? The depth chart doesn't HAVE to be set in June.

Yes it does. You have to have a depth chart for camp. Everyone in football does this. Shanahan did it and I never heard you whine about. McDaniels said that "Orton will to fight to keep it" so it's not like he said he was the starter for the season. He said he's the starter for camp. This will allow one QB to work with the one's so chemistry can build between the receivers as we work towards opening day.

When Orton wasn't the starter, several people here were ripping on McDaniels saying "what an idiot. He trades for a guy and he can't even win the starting spot against Chris Simms. Nice move, retard."

Now he wins the starting spot for camp and people are whining that it's too early. It's like there's no winning with you people.

TheReverend
06-14-2009, 12:02 PM
Yes it does. You have to have a depth chart for camp. Everyone in football does this. Shanahan did it and I never heard you whine about. McDaniels said that "Orton will to fight to keep it" so it's not like he said he was the starter for the season. He said he's the starter for camp. This will allow one QB to work with the one's so chemistry can build between the receivers as we work towards opening day.

When Orton wasn't the starter, several people here were ripping on McDaniels saying "what an idiot. He trades for a guy and he can't even win the starting spot against Chris Simms. Nice move, retard."

Now he wins the starting spot for camp and people are whining that it's too early. It's like there's no winning with you people.

Let's be realistic.

The options are Kyle Orton and Chris Simms.

So, I really don't care who he names the starter personally. However, splitting reps with the 1s in camp is pretty common in these "open competition" situations.

However, how anyone cares in this situation is beyond me :)

Karenin
06-14-2009, 12:26 PM
He's a CU alum, his comprehensions of the written word is pretty slim.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search

77 University of Colorado--Boulder

*
Boulder, CO
* Score 44
* Tier 1


89 University of Kansas

*
Lawrence, KS
* Score 41
* Tier 1




oops.

BroncoBuff
06-15-2009, 06:28 AM
Yes it does. You have to have a depth chart for camp. Everyone in football does this.
Well yes, but he didn't just list these guys for a requisite depth chart, he announced Orton the starter, for now anyways.


Now he wins the starting spot for camp and people are whining that it's too early. It's like there's no winning with you people.
I don't get this ... I don't see many complaints. Some of us are wondering why he did a flip-flop from the "open competition" remark the day before, but that's not a huge deal, that doesn't mean he cannot or should not name a starter. I'm confident that Orton deserves it.

BroncoInSkinland
06-15-2009, 07:34 AM
I don't get this ... I don't see many complaints. Some of us are wondering why he did a flip-flop from the "open competition" remark the day before, but that's not a huge deal, that doesn't mean he cannot or should not name a starter. I'm confident that Orton deserves it.

Careful, he never actually said he was in no hurry, you infered from the tip of the iceberg quote. The tip of the iceberg could still be true, there is a lot left to see from both QB's and McDaniels is still keeping an open mind about the starting position, but from what he has seen so far he likes Orton enough to give him the nod. I know you were talking about the reporter getting the title of the "no hurry" article from the context of the conversation as well, but keep in mind reporters are falible too, and a missed inference in a story could be swaying your opinion. I really think this whole thing is a non story, and that the timing was an attempt to take focus off Marshall, which it has done.

oubronco
06-15-2009, 07:46 AM
Let's be realistic.

The options are Kyle Orton and Chris Simms.

So, I really don't care who he names the starter personally. However, splitting reps with the 1s in camp is pretty common in these "open competition" situations.

However, how anyone cares in this situation is beyond me :)

exactly why everyone is jumping for joy over Orton or Simms being the starter is beyond me

oubronco
06-15-2009, 07:49 AM
Some of us are wondering why he did a flip-flop from the "open competition" remark the day before

it's kinda the way he does things isn't it

vancejohnson82
06-15-2009, 07:54 AM
What am I going to do with my Hackney jersey?

tsiguy96
06-15-2009, 08:28 AM
the starting QB (atleast for now unless he sucks it up later) gets to work and establish a good relationship with the rest of the first team. the sooner one is announced the better for the entire offense.

colonelbeef
06-15-2009, 08:54 AM
LMAO look at this http://twitter.com/KingNeckbeard

that's awesome.

broncofan7
06-15-2009, 09:21 AM
What am I going to do with my Hackney jersey?

Hang it on your wall, right next to your Preston Parson's jersey..........