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Meck77
06-10-2009, 10:08 PM
Got a little idea. We open up a Bronco Bar in Denver Colorado!

Just need a new location. :)


Anyone?

Conklin
06-10-2009, 10:19 PM
Got a little idea. We open up a Bronco Bar in Denver Colorado!

Just need a new location. :)


Anyone?

damn, wish i were in denver, i can't stand running a bar painted like arrowhead!!!

Inkana7
06-10-2009, 10:22 PM
http://nextround.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/honest_scamartist.jpg

Just kidding, Meck. :)

bronco610
06-10-2009, 10:24 PM
What is the minimum to buy in and do you have a business plan ?

PaintballCLE
06-10-2009, 10:32 PM
can we advertise on the broncos practice jerseys?

Meck77
06-10-2009, 10:39 PM
What is the minimum to buy in and do you have a business plan ?

Actually I do have one. I'd be curious to see who else has one or thought about building one? Got a big ole bus to add into the mix though 610.

How's Sam?

Mr.Meanie
06-10-2009, 10:41 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=81116

;D

bronco610
06-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Actually I do have one. I'd be curious to see who else has one or thought about building one? Got a big ole bus to add into the mix though 610.

How's Sam?

Kind of wondering myself. Havn't heard from Falconer in a while. As far as the bar goes have certainly owned enough of my own businesses to maybe have some input and could possibly raise some $ if the deal is sweet enough.

Conklin
06-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Kind of wondering myself. Havn't heard from Falconer in a while. As far as the bar goes have certainly owned enough of my own businesses to maybe have some input and could possibly raise some $ if the deal is sweet enough.

falconer commented about sam doin well just a month or so ago, back on topic, if ya need any advice or just someone to bounce an idea off of, shoot me a ring/message meck, opened multiple business including a bar just last december and been working as a bartender for the past half decade and i'd be more than willing to help in any way possible there

bronco610
06-10-2009, 11:03 PM
falconer commented about sam doin well just a month or so ago, back on topic, if ya need any advice or just someone to bounce an idea off of, shoot me a ring/message meck, opened multiple business including a bar just last december and been working as a bartender for the past half decade and i'd be more than willing to help in any way possible there

I thought you were in college like me becoming a doctor or something.

tsiguy96
06-10-2009, 11:05 PM
if it opens let us know, id like to apply for a security job :D

broncocalijohn
06-10-2009, 11:14 PM
if it opens let us know, id like to apply for a security job :D

only when our famous truck driver is on the road. When the first guy gets his throat punched, no one will screw around once they are in the bar.
Meck, I thought you were keeping your property. Is the size of your lot now too small for a bar or just a bad location for it?

Meck77
06-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole ;D We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan. :thumbs:

✡✡ JOSHUA ✡✡
06-10-2009, 11:48 PM
I have an open pit of money, but I have strict standards.

I only invest with people who are at least 50% Jewish.

Meck77
06-10-2009, 11:51 PM
Well we have something in common then. However my divisions aren't religious but do follow state Boundaries. I only invest with people who are at least 50% Bronco fan. Check that. 100%.

cutthemdown
06-10-2009, 11:59 PM
I love it Meck, A Bronco bar for the new era. Here are some things I think would be great for the new pub.

1-Every night the bar votes on who the best looking, greatest person is in the bar. It could be looks, money, anything that set's this person above all the rest...........Then of course we trade that person to the bar across the street for whoever there biggest loser is.

2-The bar really is all about the team. At end of night the bar tab is divided evenly among all patrons. Yeah even if you only have one beer you pussy!!!

3- Everyone gets referred to by what the do. IE. the waitress, the bartender, the drinker, the whore, then we give numbers so we know who is who. For example bartender number 5 is really hot, but no way she ever screws drinker numer 17, that dude is a loser. IMO she already did it with waitress number 2 and has now gone lesbian.

4- On Sundays when Broncos play everyone wheres a hoodie.

cutthemdown
06-11-2009, 12:00 AM
Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole ;D We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan. :thumbs:

Hmmm a bar owned by fans, like the packers of sports bars.

Sort of socialism meets capitalism meets stupid sports fans.

bronco610
06-11-2009, 12:04 AM
Hmmm a bar owned by fans, like the packers of sports bars.

Sort of socialism meets capitalism meets stupid sports fans.

Sounds perfect, you over pay for a beer just like anywhere else but you get some of the profit back!^5

baja
06-11-2009, 12:21 AM
Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole ;D We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan. :thumbs:

I got 700 cases of beans I could throw in.

Meck77
06-11-2009, 12:31 AM
I got 700 cases of beans I could throw in.

:Elway:

You know Baja I have little doubt you'd deliver that in one way or another.

The "economy sucks, Bowlen sucks, the new QB sucks, our coach sucks, raiders suck....But a Broncos bar in Denver Co still makes sense IMO.

Popps
06-11-2009, 12:41 AM
It's actually not a bad time to be out putting business plans together. Great time to pound out favorable lease deals for real estate and possibly even equipment. The sharks are definitely out hunting right now.

I'd imagine you could put together a complete start-up for somewhere around a 15-30% discount over just a couple years ago, depending on what business you're in.

I have one friend with some retail shops. He had to close a couple due to business decline, but his others are doing well, and he's been able to parlay a lack of commercial lease customers into better lease rates for his existing businesses.

cutthemdown
06-11-2009, 01:14 AM
It's actually not a bad time to be out putting business plans together. Great time to pound out favorable lease deals for real estate and possibly even equipment. The sharks are definitely out hunting right now.

I'd imagine you could put together a complete start-up for somewhere around a 15-30% discount over just a couple years ago, depending on what business you're in.

I have one friend with some retail shops. He had to close a couple due to business decline, but his others are doing well, and he's been able to parlay a lack of commercial lease customers into better lease rates for his existing businesses.

I'm looking for a commercial building in an area I could put a rehearsal lockout thing together.

Make like 4-5 sound resistant rooms and rent them out to bands for like 400 a month. Then I would make one room for my band also and get rid of rehearsing in my living room.

Usually owners don't want to give a long term lease to something like that because they fear bands = drugs and partying. Well they do equal that but these guys are desperate for leases. I had a guy who said no way call me back and try to do it for 400 more a month then I offered.

I lied and said I like your building but I have some other building that are interested and are better deals. I drove by still for lease, so I'm thinking either he leases it soon, or in 2-3 more months he will be desperate.

Free standing building, fenced, I could build like 10 studios in it.

Really though I have no good plan and need to work it out a lot more. But I could also probably get the rooms built for cheaper right now. Construction not exactly booming.

Popps
06-11-2009, 01:27 AM
I'm looking for a commercial building in an area I could put a rehearsal lockout thing together.

Make like 4-5 sound resistant rooms and rent them out to bands for like 400 a month. Then I would make one room for my band also and get rid of rehearsing in my living room.

Usually owners don't want to give a long term lease to something like that because they fear bands = drugs and partying. Well they do equal that but these guys are desperate for leases. I had a guy who said no way call me back and try to do it for 400 more a month then I offered.

I lied and said I like your building but I have some other building that are interested and are better deals. I drove by still for lease, so I'm thinking either he leases it soon, or in 2-3 more months he will be desperate.

Free standing building, fenced, I could build like 10 studios in it.

Really though I have no good plan and need to work it out a lot more. But I could also probably get the rooms built for cheaper right now. Construction not exactly booming.

Very interesting.

I've always run my studio facilities out of my home, or worked at pro studios/networks. But, I did do some engineering for a studio up in Oakland and became very good friends with the owner. He built out a great main studio with medium sized live room and a great control room. (About 100K worth of gear including a Trident TSM he got a great deal on.) But, he was VERY smart. When he leased the building, he built 6 practice rooms, just like you're talking about.

They're secure, nice and kept up. So, he basically has a waiting list of people who need a lock-out. Those rooms ALONE pay his rent. That means everything from his studio is profit. So, if business is slow (which it rarely was when I was there)... he never had to worry about bills.

I like your idea. Have you done any footwork as to other facilities around where you're looking? Thinking of adding anything to appeal to the musicians? I always feel like the difference between business success and failure are very minor details. VERY minor.

Long story short, I think I've told this story here before, but I use a dry-cleaners here in my area that's actually somewhat "famous" due to their rep as doing work for a lot of actors. But, I came to find out, their prices are very reasonable. I also found out that they PICK UP AND DELIVER and no extra cost besides a tip. They do an immaculate job. A highly friendly driver shows up in a clean car, speaks English and asks questions when my wife gives him our dry-clean stuff. They give you a custom bag to use. (And bring it back.) Turn-around is quick, quality is great. This last time, I noticed an extra bag with the clothing. They had put together a little gift bag with some chocolates, a calendar, some stickers for kids and other goodies.

Now, none of the things they did cost them a lot of extra money to do. It's just time, effort and creativity. But, we'll never use anyone else.

I honestly believe the differences are that small. Two dry-cleaners can do a nice job on my clothes. But, these people WANT my business... badly and were smart and creative about keeping it.

Just a little story I try to remember when running my own business.

Anyway, good luck with the rooms. Practice areas are a must out here. Basements don't exist, and garages are all on top of each other. So, there always seems to be musicians looking.

cutthemdown
06-11-2009, 01:37 AM
Very interesting.

I've always run my studio facilities out of my home, or worked at pro studios/networks. But, I did do some engineering for a studio up in Oakland and became very good friends with the owner. He built out a great main studio with medium sized live room and a great control room. (About 100K worth of gear including a Trident TSM he got a great deal on.) But, he was VERY smart. When he leased the building, he built 6 practice rooms, just like you're talking about.

They're secure, nice and kept up. So, he basically has a waiting list of people who need a lock-out. Those rooms ALONE pay his rent. That means everything from his studio is profit. So, if business is slow (which it rarely was when I was there)... he never had to worry about bills.

I like your idea. Have you done any footwork as to other facilities around where you're looking? Thinking of adding anything to appeal to the musicians? I always feel like the difference between business success and failure are very minor details. VERY minor.

Long story short, I think I've told this story here before, but I use a dry-cleaners here in my area that's actually somewhat "famous" due to their rep as doing work for a lot of actors. But, I came to find out, their prices are very reasonable. I also found out that they PICK UP AND DELIVER and no extra cost besides a tip. They do an immaculate job. A highly friendly driver shows up in a clean car, speaks English and asks questions when my wife gives him our dry-clean stuff. They give you a custom bag to use. (And bring it back.) Turn-around is quick, quality is great. This last time, I noticed an extra bag with the clothing. They had put together a little gift bag with some chocolates, a calendar, some stickers for kids and other goodies.

Now, none of the things they did cost them a lot of extra money to do. It's just time, effort and creativity. But, we'll never use anyone else.

I honestly believe the differences are that small. Two dry-cleaners can do a nice job on my clothes. But, these people WANT my business... badly and were smart and creative about keeping it.

Just a little story I try to remember when running my own business.

Anyway, good luck with the rooms. Practice areas are a must out here. Basements don't exist, and garages are all on top of each other. So, there always seems to be musicians looking.


Sounds like we have both lugged around rehearsing in homes, garages, studios, lockouts etc.

I think the main thing I want to provide would be a safe, secure, professional musician working environment. That mean a place people can park that they don't have to walk down any dark alleys in some hood area of the Long Beach.

I think free Wi-Fi or whatever it takes to give internet in each room.

Security cameras in the hallways and secure doors into the rooms

Maybe a security gate you need a code to open.

Maybe a vending machine that has just some basic supplies like picks, batteries, strings, reeds, drum heads, sticks etc. Nothing expensive just cheap stuff with a fair price for emergencies.

Rooms that are 400-500 but then you get a nice sized room. IMO for that at least 15 by 10.

A good working air conditioning system that keeps rooms comfortable.

Maybe some gear people can rent like Amps, Drum Kits, PA's

A decent sized bathroom that doesn't smell like urine would be nice.


I don't what else do you think could fit into a budget that musicians would really dig?

BroncoMan4ever
06-11-2009, 01:39 AM
damn, that is one of my goals for the next 5-10 years, to open up my own sports bar. wish i had some extra cash to kick around, i would totally get involved in this venture of yours Meck

cutthemdown
06-11-2009, 01:39 AM
There are a bunch of them in LA, a bunch in Orange County, but Long Beach has nothing except a pretty big one in San Pedro right in the Harbor area.

cutthemdown
06-11-2009, 01:41 AM
So Meck how much are you talking here. In your opinion what type of money would we be talking about for a sports bar in a decent part of Denver?

footstepsfrom#27
06-11-2009, 03:02 AM
A bar? You should have no trouble finding investors in here. I'm pretty sure at least half the people posting in here are tatooed 90% of the time they're on this board. ;D

cutthemdown
06-11-2009, 07:01 AM
A bar? You should have no trouble finding investors in here. I'm pretty sure at least half the people posting in here are tatooed 90% of the time they're on this board. ;D

it's not about drinking, it's about having money.

Peoples Champ
06-11-2009, 07:36 AM
I wish I had money to invest. I would be right there with you.

rugbythug
06-11-2009, 07:50 AM
Meck needs to sell Shares. Put together 100 orange mane shares for $1000.00 a Pop. Or some such thing. And Define the Orange mane's holding. IE 25% or 10% depends on how big the bar is obviously. I would buy one or two.

Currently All my time and money is going into Real Estate. 16 Rentals and counting. I want to get to 40-50.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-11-2009, 08:03 AM
Sounds like we have both lugged around rehearsing in homes, garages, studios, lockouts etc.

I think the main thing I want to provide would be a safe, secure, professional musician working environment. That mean a place people can park that they don't have to walk down any dark alleys in some hood area of the Long Beach.

I think free Wi-Fi or whatever it takes to give internet in each room.

Security cameras in the hallways and secure doors into the rooms

Maybe a security gate you need a code to open.

Maybe a vending machine that has just some basic supplies like picks, batteries, strings, reeds, drum heads, sticks etc. Nothing expensive just cheap stuff with a fair price for emergencies.

Rooms that are 400-500 but then you get a nice sized room. IMO for that at least 15 by 10.

A good working air conditioning system that keeps rooms comfortable.

Maybe some gear people can rent like Amps, Drum Kits, PA's

A decent sized bathroom that doesn't smell like urine would be nice.


I don't what else do you think could fit into a budget that musicians would really dig?

If you want a good example of where to start, check out the Walnut Room's rehearsal spaces. 3131 Walnut Street in downtown Denver. Great space. My band rehearsed there for three years. Secure building, secure rooms, completely soundproofed. Easy load-in/out. WiFi. Across the parking lot there's a bar with food and everything... it's a great spot.

I've thought about doing something similar... Shoot me a private message. Let's talk.

footstepsfrom#27
06-11-2009, 08:15 AM
Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27
A bar? You should have no trouble finding investors in here. I'm pretty sure at least half the people posting in here are tatooed 90% of the time they're on this board. ;D
it's not about drinking, it's about having money.
Do you know what ;D means?

Orange_Beard
06-11-2009, 08:23 AM
I would be interested in investing. I think the selling shares is a great idea.

Irish Stout
06-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Meck, this is basically my dream! I don't have a lot of money to invest, but I have a very rough version of a business plan for a brew-pub that I'd be willing to share with you at some point. Granted you said bar and not brew-pub, but either way. Depending on the solidity of the plan and what you're exactly looking for, I am willing to put in the time and my professional services along with as much initial capital contribution as I can.

I think there are two extremely important things to consider for running any type of service establishment and thats location and expectations. Curious what you have in mind.

GSRelyea
06-11-2009, 08:41 AM
I could do all the paper work for this venture- Incorporation, stock breakdowns ect. Although I am not in Denver I do have a friend out there that would jump all over it if it ever came to fruition

Meck77
06-11-2009, 09:11 AM
Let me just start off by saying this isn't some random idea I tossed out there. It's also not a slap something together idea to see if it sticks.

As many of you know I had a location at the corner of lot M. It took more than a year to find that location and I owned if for several years until Eminent Domain stepped in. My plan was to sit and hold until 2012 when the new light rail station opened up. That was my time frame at the time. That bar was 6,600 sq/ft and would have been right across the street from the station and about a minute or two walk to the gates of Mile High.

All things have changed now except the dream. Originally I going to go at that one alone. I kicked around selling shares. Had I offered shares and you had gotten bought out by RTD like I did you would have gotten a nice double digit return. I'd much rather have the land but in this market there are certainly other opportunities out there and in the end with all the fighting/and with the help of some of you here I can honestly say I got what could be considered "Fair Market Value" but at the end of the day I was still forced to sell.

With that being said I don't see myself as the "sole" owner anymore. Since I bought that piece in Lot M I've moved to the mountains which I love. However I still see the niche of this Broncobar/Pub-That's for you Irish. Opening up this concept via shares seems like a good idea to me.

The original plan was a lifelong one. This new one is different and that is why I've opened up the discussion to all of you. A new plan doesn't necessarily mean buying the location. We could certainly lease a space and give it a go but IMO as a long term investment it's the real estate if bought correctly that is your security/investment in the deal.

I have a lot more to say on the subject but I have appointments today I have to take care of. BBL....

snowspot66
06-11-2009, 10:42 AM
To all of you future business owners. PLEASE use a graphic designer. Don't go at your advertisements and print stuff alone because you think any schmuck with a laptop and photoshop can do it. You can but it will suck and don't employ your artsy niece in high school. It will look like a web page out of the late 90's.

If you don't know where to start with finding one then let me know. My girlfriend is a very qualified and creative one going on to get her Masters and if her style isn't what you want or she's busy with other work then she knows dozens of others who do spectacular work.

Rock Chalk
06-11-2009, 10:46 AM
I have an open pit of money, but I have strict standards.

I only invest with people who are at least 50% Jewish.

Hahahahaha.

7 words you will never hear a real Jew say :)

Conklin
06-11-2009, 11:06 AM
Hahahahaha.

7 words you will never hear a real Jew say :)

:rofl:

philiptr2
06-11-2009, 11:40 AM
Meck...Put me on your list of interested persons. I would love to contribute in some way. Keep us informed.

BroncoBuff
06-11-2009, 11:47 AM
Cali it was a combination of things at the end.

Location was perfect. However things changed but the plan remains the same. A real old school/straight up Bronco Bar. It just doesn't exist IMO.

I'd like to hear from anyone willing to contribute as an investor, employee, Bronco fan, or another ahole ;D We don't discriminate as long as you are a Broncos Fan. :thumbs:

If you're really serious Steve, I know a guy in Denver who'd be inerested in taking a look. He was looking at a bowling alley last month up in Boulder/Longmont, but I don't think that's gonna work out.

Meck77
06-11-2009, 11:50 AM
Buff have you ever know me to half ass an idea?


Years ago I knew the writing was on the wall for the omane tailgate in lot C. That is why I bought the parcel south of it. Little did I know that lighting would strike twice. Ha!

They say three times a charm right?

BroncoBuff
06-11-2009, 12:03 PM
Never even once! ^5 ... (sorry, I posted the "are you serious" post before I read #37 above. I'll PM you.)

Popps
06-11-2009, 12:07 PM
There are a bunch of them in LA, a bunch in Orange County, but Long Beach has nothing except a pretty big one in San Pedro right in the Harbor area.

I like your concept, and I think the details you talked about as far as making the rooms appealing. The safety angle is huge, but the WiFi and details like that are even better. Most practice areas feel like hell-holes. So, anything you do to make it feel like people are in an atmosphere better than that puts you ahead of the rest. It also may attract a better, more responsible clientele.

bronco610
06-11-2009, 12:09 PM
I like your concept, and I think the details you talked about as far as making the rooms appealing. The safety angle is huge, but the WiFi and details like that are even better. Most practice areas feel like hell-holes. So, anything you do to make it feel like people are in an atmosphere better than that puts you ahead of the rest. It also may attract a better, more responsible clientele.

Well, I guess I wont be allowed in.:~ohyah!:

TheReverend
06-11-2009, 01:32 PM
Meck, PM with your plan and how much you need from me and how much of a stake I'd get.

I'm very interested in this.

Spider
06-11-2009, 02:13 PM
Got a little idea. We open up a Bronco Bar in Denver Colorado!

Just need a new location. :)


Anyone?

1220 Harbor Bay Parkway, Alameda, CA 94502 ;D we will make millions

Beantown Bronco
06-11-2009, 02:23 PM
Meck, PM with your plan and how much you need from me and how much of a stake I'd get.

I'm very interested in this.

He told me if I wire $500 to his account in Nigeria, I'd be a 10% owner in the bar. Sounds legit, so I'm on my way to the Western Union now.

I'll let you guys know how it goes.

TailgateNut
06-12-2009, 07:53 AM
Let's see where this goes. I can hook you up with builders/ tenant finish guys. Top of the line.
I also know one of the BEST bartenders in the Denver area. She currently works up north, but she's GOOD.
Maybe I can do the cooking, Tailgate Style. I am sick of my dog eat dog line of work.

worm
06-12-2009, 08:05 AM
it's not about drinking, it's about having money.

I am pretty sure that a bar business IS about drinking. That is kinda the idea. ;D

I am down with investing.......and drinking in this establishment.

Additionally, please make Round The Corner style frys.

tsiguy96
06-12-2009, 08:07 AM
so say he does hire me as bartender or security. if any of you bastards start talking about racism, politics or jay cutler, youre gettin the boot!

bfoflcommish
06-12-2009, 08:16 AM
hey I went to bartending college for the hell of it, i'll work. hahaha and if that fails I'll keep some fools in line if I have too!

baja
06-12-2009, 08:21 AM
Very interesting.

I've always run my studio facilities out of my home, or worked at pro studios/networks. But, I did do some engineering for a studio up in Oakland and became very good friends with the owner. He built out a great main studio with medium sized live room and a great control room. (About 100K worth of gear including a Trident TSM he got a great deal on.) But, he was VERY smart. When he leased the building, he built 6 practice rooms, just like you're talking about.

They're secure, nice and kept up. So, he basically has a waiting list of people who need a lock-out. Those rooms ALONE pay his rent. That means everything from his studio is profit. So, if business is slow (which it rarely was when I was there)... he never had to worry about bills.

I like your idea. Have you done any footwork as to other facilities around where you're looking? Thinking of adding anything to appeal to the musicians? I always feel like the difference between business success and failure are very minor details. VERY minor.

Long story short, I think I've told this story here before, but I use a dry-cleaners here in my area that's actually somewhat "famous" due to their rep as doing work for a lot of actors. But, I came to find out, their prices are very reasonable. I also found out that they PICK UP AND DELIVER and no extra cost besides a tip. They do an immaculate job. A highly friendly driver shows up in a clean car, speaks English and asks questions when my wife gives him our dry-clean stuff. They give you a custom bag to use. (And bring it back.) Turn-around is quick, quality is great. This last time, I noticed an extra bag with the clothing. They had put together a little gift bag with some chocolates, a calendar, some stickers for kids and other goodies.

Now, none of the things they did cost them a lot of extra money to do. It's just time, effort and creativity. But, we'll never use anyone else.

I honestly believe the differences are that small. Two dry-cleaners can do a nice job on my clothes. But, these people WANT my business... badly and were smart and creative about keeping it.

Just a little story I try to remember when running my own business.

Anyway, good luck with the rooms. Practice areas are a must out here. Basements don't exist, and garages are all on top of each other. So, there always seems to be musicians looking.

Cut & Popps this is a very good idea you should do it. Add a couple of equipment vans and drivers and you will reach more customers.

Meck77
06-12-2009, 08:22 AM
Basically this thread is a fact finding mission. I have commercial brokers on the scene already working on replacing my land.

This bar just isn't about drinking in my mind. First of all THERE IS NO TRUE BRONCO BAR in Denver, Colorado.

When I was really into the tailgating scene many of you would always ask me that question. My answer was always the same. There just isn't one.

Don't get me wrong there are plenty of sports bars. There are even bars dedicated to the Packers and other teams around town.

My original plan at Lot M was not just a bar but almost a museum of Bronco memorabilia, a hub to meet up with other Broncos fans, a place for live radio shows etc, and a place you might just find an old player sipping a cold brew at the end of the bar. I had some verbal commitments in place. I've been collecting Bronco stuff for 25 +years and I know for a fact that on this site alone there are some of the most incredible Bronco basements in the country. I've seen them and some of you had expressed interest in rotating out items for display.

I also have some alumni contacts that were interested in my concept. I have about 15 years of experience in the restaurant/bar/hospitality/wedding business and have been known to throw a pretty decent party now and again. Mix in OF1, a solid base of Bronco fans in Denver and across the the net I think this idea has a good chance to sustain itself and turn a buck.

Obviously Broncos football doesn't last all year but my gut says there are enough true football junkies out there. Obviously in the off season there would be a mix of other sports/live music things going on.

As far as food goes I'm not going to get into that at this time. There are plenty of directions to go with that but I certainly would like to mix in a Tailgate Atmosphere.

Some of you visited Mile High mikes in New Jersey. Now that's a sports bar. We're talking massive amounts of good food priced right, good drinks priced accordingly, and most importantly hot chicks serving it up. It's not all that complicated really.

The key certainly boils down to a location. I have an inside line on a few things already. Again keep in mind I was looking at opening up the LOT M location around 2012. There is no urgency to make this happen right now. I'm looking for some feedback, interested people parties in the concept etc.

TailgateNut
06-12-2009, 08:33 AM
Tailgate food doesn't have to be limited to burgers and brats.:~ohyah!:

Meck77
06-12-2009, 08:37 AM
Tailgate food doesn't have to be limited to burgers and brats.:~ohyah!:

I hear you there and you of all people take it to another level. :thumbsup:

TailgateNut
06-12-2009, 08:38 AM
I hear you there and you of all people take it to another level. :thumbsup:

All joking aside. keep me in the loop!

cutthemdown
06-12-2009, 12:28 PM
I like your concept, and I think the details you talked about as far as making the rooms appealing. The safety angle is huge, but the WiFi and details like that are even better. Most practice areas feel like hell-holes. So, anything you do to make it feel like people are in an atmosphere better than that puts you ahead of the rest. It also may attract a better, more responsible clientele.

Yeah if I did it I would try and cater to a more mature type band or musician. I know quite a few music instructors I could probably make a deal with for some of the rooms to give lessons a couple days a week.

Rock Chalk
06-12-2009, 12:42 PM
Tailgate food doesn't have to be limited to burgers and brats.:~ohyah!:

Doh.

I agree. No sense being bigoted towards the other great meats. Ribs, steaks, wings, brisket, all worthy candidates.

When the Saints come into town, Gumbo, jambalaya, red beans and rice, etouffee all good secondary options :)

Miss I.
06-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Could we model it on the OM: The Meltdown Room; Thunderdome; Dancing cages for rival fans to dance in; A dart board with target on the moment (like JAy or McD)..A throat punching trucker as a bouncer. A random in a snuggy polling everyone or handing out the NTN trivia boxes...

Tombstone RJ
06-12-2009, 12:53 PM
it's not about drinking, it's about having money.

This is why I'm on the outside looking in...:sunshine:

Can I get paid for being a barfly?

Beantown Bronco
06-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Might I suggest looking for a place with enough room for an "Ex-Bronco QB Club" in the basement? I'm thinking a handball court and beer pong tables would be a good start.

Traveler
06-12-2009, 01:06 PM
Damn! I guess the only thing missing is a stripper pole & and course the ladies to work them. Just kidding!

✡✡ JOSHUA ✡✡
06-12-2009, 01:22 PM
Hahahahaha.

7 words you will never hear a real Jew say :)

a messa mashee af deer

TheReverend
06-12-2009, 01:51 PM
Might I suggest looking for a place with enough room for an "Ex-Bronco QB Club" in the basement? I'm thinking a handball court and beer pong tables would be a good start.

Well, we know that booze will be enough to keep John, Brian and Jay coming back, but the handball court might be necessary to keep Jake involved. Or maybe we can just make a bumper cars section where he can ram people? A fan flipping off simulator? A video game where you get bonus points for throwing left handed picks?

Beantown Bronco
06-12-2009, 01:56 PM
Meck:

I guarantee that if you get a "Dance, Dance Revolution" machine, half of your regulars in the bar will be Broncos linebackers. Just tell them to dance like they made a tackle 15 yards downfield and they'll be all over that machine like Bob on a BJ's sized box of ho-hos.

BroncosinDC
06-12-2009, 04:51 PM
I would say in terms of location you need a spot that people are at all times of the year. Until recently I was at a bar that was basically the closest to the new Nationals Park (the 25 feet to the other bar was negligable), had we counted on that traffic paying the bills we would have been hurting. Game days (depending on who they played) you would get a pop 2 hours before the game, and a smaller pop after the game for an hour or so. It was an ideal location to profit of the stadium, but in a spot that was surronded by residential area, and a growing business district so the Nats games were just gravy.

The concept is great, but should cater to people not going to games. An awesome place to watch a Broncos game, and be surronded by Broncos gear would be busier in an area near the stadium so if the museum idea works out well people can see it before or after the game...but you have a crowd during the games as well.

Just my thought. Take it for what its worth, I'm currently stressing my ass off working on opening a new joint in Baltimore. While its not my spot, one of my best friends is opening it, its crazy but fun in a weird way. Depending on your timeline I'm always looking for an excuse to move back to Denver.

BroncosinDC
06-12-2009, 04:56 PM
To all of you future business owners. PLEASE use a graphic designer. Don't go at your advertisements and print stuff alone because you think any schmuck with a laptop and photoshop can do it. You can but it will suck and don't employ your artsy niece in high school. It will look like a web page out of the late 90's.

If you don't know where to start with finding one then let me know. My girlfriend is a very qualified and creative one going on to get her Masters and if her style isn't what you want or she's busy with other work then she knows dozens of others who do spectacular work.

Getting a company to draft the layout, do the interior decorating, making the menu look pretty, and do a website makes life easy. That way you can concentrate on other stuff like making a world class menu, awesome drinks, and staffing.

www.bluehilltavern.com

It's in the design stages but its a hell of a lot better than I could have done.

Hogan11
06-12-2009, 05:23 PM
Is the party deck idea dead or will the local under consideration still make that possible?

BroncoBuff
06-12-2009, 05:26 PM
Tailgate food doesn't have to be limited to burgers and brats.:~ohyah!:

Yup, gotta have wings.

Hogan11
06-12-2009, 05:45 PM
Yup, gotta have wings.

and breakfast burritos....where the hell is 12thman & Teddman anyways? Haven't seen those guys around in a very long time.....???

Bronx33
06-12-2009, 05:51 PM
Hahahahaha.

7 words you will never hear a real Jew say :)


LOL

Bronx33
06-12-2009, 05:52 PM
Yup, gotta have wings.




I have the ultimate wing recipie btw meck.