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bronclvr
06-03-2009, 01:20 PM
Dungy also was strong in his opinions on Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

He said that Chicago made "a risky move but one that was made to beat one team which was the Green Bay Packers."

On Cutler, Dungy said, "He's a very talented guy who can throw the ball really well. But the quarterback position is so much about leadership, so much about performing (under) pressure. We'll see about his maturity level. That's been a question and some of the things that led to him leaving Denver (raised that concern)."

http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2009/06/nbcs-two-newest-analysts-rodne.html

PRBronco
06-03-2009, 01:28 PM
BOOM! Droppin' some Quiet Strength on Jay! That hit him in both chins.

supermanhr9
06-03-2009, 01:32 PM
booy ya ka to the face. That just happened

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-03-2009, 01:33 PM
Jay Cutler reportedly responded, "Who cares? I know I can throw a ball harder than tony dungy. I'm going to have another slice of pizza."

watermock
06-03-2009, 01:35 PM
He should be worried about the Colts coming apart at the seams, or should he care?

But he defected onto Cutler so it's newsworthy.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-03-2009, 01:36 PM
He should be worried about the Colts coming apart at the seams, or should he care?

But he defected onto Cutler so it's newsworthy.

Why would he be worried about the Colts? Newsflash: He's no longer the coach in Indianapolis.

bronclvr
06-03-2009, 01:36 PM
He should be worried about the Colts coming apart at the seams, or should he care?


Why should he care about the Colts now? (edit: Sorry, slow on the draw)-

Hercules Rockefeller
06-03-2009, 01:38 PM
But he defected onto Cutler so it's newsworthy.

How do you defect onto someone?

Bronx33
06-03-2009, 01:38 PM
Jay Cutler reportedly responded, "Who cares? I know I can throw a ball harder than tony dungy. I'm going to have another slice of pizza."


Tony responded by saying ( i could pick that ball and spike it in the endzone before you figured out you ***** up)

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-03-2009, 01:38 PM
How do you defect onto someone?

I think I saw a porn that ended like that once.

Bronx33
06-03-2009, 01:41 PM
How do you defect onto someone?

http://www.4mobile.ge/uploads/posts/2008-11/1227874070_d_7385.jpg

broncosteven
06-03-2009, 02:37 PM
At least Tony got Manrino ONE SB.

ZONA
06-03-2009, 02:40 PM
I don't really care what Tony has to say about Jay, since I really don't care what Jay does now. All I care about is the Broncos. Not ex Colts head coaches or current Chicago QB's.

DBroncos4life
06-03-2009, 02:43 PM
At least Tony got Manrino ONE SB.

Manning should have way more then just one.

lex
06-03-2009, 02:43 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

The Joker
06-03-2009, 02:47 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

What on earth does that have to do with anything?

telluride
06-03-2009, 03:05 PM
I don't really care what Tony has to say about Jay, since I really don't care what Jay does now. All I care about is the Broncos. Not ex Colts head coaches or current Chicago QB's.

Agreed. But for the next 12 months can we all please wish (temporary) bad fortune on Cutler? We need him to fail on an epic scale. Next season, who cares. This season: suck it, Jay!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-03-2009, 03:07 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Well, you're just a classy individual aren't ya?

bronco_diesel
06-03-2009, 03:08 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

that is pretty low.

TheReverend
06-03-2009, 03:26 PM
Tony Dungy followed up the statement by saying, "**** white people... except Peyton Manning. I owe him a HoF berth."

Kaylore
06-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Jay Cutler reportedly responded, "Who cares? I know I can throw a ball harder than tony dungy. I'm going to have another slice of pizza."

LOL

sisterhellfyre
06-03-2009, 03:35 PM
How do you defect onto someone?

Do you really want to know? Let's just say it involves lots of toilet paper. And stuff.

crush17
06-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.


wow... you're pretty much the scum of scum for saying something like that.

i sure hope you don't have children.

****ing a-hole.

Gcver2ver3
06-03-2009, 03:52 PM
Jay Cutler reportedly responded, "Who cares? I know I can throw a ball harder than tony dungy. I'm going to have another slice of pizza."

well, he can...

he can throw a football harder than tony dungy...

Gcver2ver3
06-03-2009, 03:53 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

dude did u really just post that?...

what a friggin dirtbag...

Majik
06-03-2009, 04:23 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

REP worthy? I think so! LOL

azbroncfan
06-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Wow you sure a a POS scumbag. I am glad your such a perfect person that is immune to any type of challenges life throws at you. I always wondered why you were disliked/disrespected so much on this board but I can see what type of person you are now.

bronco_boi_5280
06-03-2009, 04:37 PM
I don't really care what Tony has to say about Jay, since I really don't care what Jay does now. All I care about is the Broncos. Not ex Colts head coaches or current Chicago QB's.

Oh I get it. You totally do not care at all. You care so little, in fact, that you just HAD to open a thread and respond to said thread.

The Orangemane: We Know Logic!

TonyR
06-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Aw, poor, pathetic lex. Did someone very smart and well respected who has very good perspective on the QB position say something bad about your boy crush?

Broncojef
06-03-2009, 05:33 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

opposite of whatever Lex says = sanity

Los Broncos
06-03-2009, 06:08 PM
Yawn

Bob's your Information Minister
06-03-2009, 06:12 PM
Tony Dungy's just bitter because he knows Jay is such a heathen.

Orange_Beard
06-03-2009, 06:18 PM
Those Comments are not very Christ like, St. Tony.

brncobrett
06-03-2009, 07:00 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Wow..that's not even funny..

azbroncfan
06-03-2009, 07:45 PM
He should be worried about the Colts coming apart at the seams, or should he care?

But he defected onto Cutler so it's newsworthy.

Man the peanut butter really got to you.

Popps
06-03-2009, 07:54 PM
http://notqualifiedtocomment.com/wp-content/uploads/jay-greg.jpg

DenverBrit
06-03-2009, 08:03 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Is this 'beancounter humor' or is your comment just a reflection of who you are?

Either way, it's wrong!

Pseudofool
06-03-2009, 08:18 PM
I think this is significant because Dungy usually does backflips to try to avoid saying something negative. While he said it in a typically measured way, it's pretty dang clear he thinks Cutler is never going to be a winner.

Orange Blood
06-03-2009, 08:19 PM
Dungy is a HN. **** him.

cutthemdown
06-03-2009, 08:24 PM
Cutler supposedly sent a blank piece of paper to Dungy overnight fed-ex.

When Dungy asked someone what it meant they just shrugged and said.....

That's the autograph you could have had if Jay Cutler gave them!!!!!!!!

cutthemdown
06-03-2009, 08:28 PM
I think this is significant because Dungy usually does backflips to try to avoid saying something negative. While he said it in a typically measured way, it's pretty dang clear he thinks Cutler is never going to be a winner.

Well it makes me believe Dungy feels it's more about leadership and being clutch, then throwing harder then John Elway.

When you get someone that has the intangibles, and the measurables, then you get a manning, and Elway etc.

Cutler IMO has not proved he can lead other players to be better then they are, or make a coach look good by being clutch when it matters. Maybe he was doing those things in Denver but it didn't seem like it to me.

Dungy is saying Cutler is being valued by Bears as someone who has already proven he is a two headed monster, both the athlete, and the leader. He is also saying IMO that he is not convinced Cutler is that.

Premier-Ace55
06-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

This is one of the worst things i have ever seen on a blog or article or anything written. Is this the type of stuff you think of to respond to comments by people. I'm mean dude that wasn't cool at all.

OABB
06-03-2009, 08:59 PM
Lex is the most awesome member on the mane.

He never let's me down.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-03-2009, 09:07 PM
Tony Dungy is one of those closet pricks.

DenverBrit
06-03-2009, 10:35 PM
Tony Dungy is one of those closet pricks.
Not me, I'm out of the pr#ck closet....and the ones for asshats, douches, arseholes, sponges, unemployed Trolls and clueless cretins.

There's other closets you've 'skipped'.

FireFly
06-03-2009, 11:51 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Oh... little harsh?

:(

broncocalijohn
06-04-2009, 12:51 AM
He should be worried about the Colts coming apart at the seams, or should he care?

But he defected onto Cutler so it's newsworthy.

while you were planning on telling us of another weird conspiracy theory, Dungy left the Colts.

broncocalijohn
06-04-2009, 12:56 AM
wow... you're pretty much the scum of scum for saying something like that.

i sure hope you don't have children.

****ing a-hole.

i wonder how many neg reps he received based on that comment on his son's suicide. I gave one. Rarely do i ever but Lex earned it. :thumbs:
Remember, this is the "fan" that was in a bar with his broncos jersey rooting on the Vikings to beat us so we can move up a few spots (and possibly skip Clady or pick him and pay him top 10 $).

Gcver2ver3
06-04-2009, 06:29 AM
i wonder how many neg reps he received based on that comment on his son's suicide. I gave one. Rarely do i ever but Lex earned it. :thumbs:


i don't do neg reps...

but i did post on his user notes page...

i just wanted to call him a dirtbag one more time...

lex
06-04-2009, 06:35 AM
i wonder how many neg reps he received based on that comment on his son's suicide. I gave one. Rarely do i ever but Lex earned it. :thumbs:
Remember, this is the "fan" that was in a bar with his broncos jersey rooting on the Vikings to beat us so we can move up a few spots (and possibly skip Clady or pick him and pay him top 10 $).

It would have benefitted the Broncos more for that to happen. Its not my fault youre too dumb to know this.

TailgateNut
06-04-2009, 06:49 AM
that is pretty low.

Considering the source, not really.

TailgateNut
06-04-2009, 06:53 AM
It would have benefitted the Broncos more for that to happen. Its not my fault youre too dumb to know this.


Erasing the little doubt, post by post.

You should be a raider fan. That's the best I can wish for you.

HILife
06-04-2009, 06:58 AM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

That's really cold.

lex
06-04-2009, 07:02 AM
Erasing the little doubt, post by post.

You should be a raider fan. That's the best I can wish for you.

Like that matters.

Bronx33
06-04-2009, 01:35 PM
wtf lex?

broncswin
06-04-2009, 02:39 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Wow...just wow, you stay classy!! what an idiot you are

crush17
06-04-2009, 02:50 PM
honestly I think that's a temporarily bannable post.

pure trash and absolutely ruthless.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-04-2009, 03:07 PM
honestly I think that's a temporarily bannable post.

pure trash and absolutely ruthless.

QFT

lex
06-04-2009, 03:17 PM
Some of you need to STFU. Really. Just STFU.

Stop pretending like that was the worst thing youve ever heard said about anyone on this message board. Theres been a lot of negative things said about a variety of people, many of which are/were Denver Broncos...some of them were our own. So, now, because some of you are spoonfed by the national media that Tony Dungy is something that ranges from being a saint to being an ambassador of football, youre all offended like the lemmings you are. Really. STFU.

crush17
06-04-2009, 03:18 PM
How about YOU STFU you ignorant cVnt??

Nobody here likes you, you're a troll, and not even a Broncos fan.

GET OUT.

Oh, and PS- that probably ranks in the top 3 worst things I've ever heard someone say on a messageboard, and it deeply offended me.

Your attitude after the fact offends me even more.

DIAF you fVck.

lex
06-04-2009, 03:20 PM
How about YOU STFU you ignorant cVnt??

Nobody here likes you, you're a troll, and not even a Broncos fan.

GET OUT.

Go cry somewhere else...you sensitive little guy.

crush17
06-04-2009, 03:22 PM
Go cry somewhere else...you sensitive little guy.

Big man when you can hide behind the keyboard and live in another city.

XXXII
06-04-2009, 03:22 PM
lex,
are you okay? You seem like you may have had a bad day or something? Just an observation, but whether you like or don't like Tony Dungy, the thing you said about the suicide was a bit insensitive. Losing someone you love to something like that is pretty devastating, so it's a bit tactless to make that comment. Yes, no doubt many people have said some awful things, but that doesn't make your comment okay. So, again I ask, are you okay, because it seems like maybe something else is bothering you?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-04-2009, 03:23 PM
Some of you need to STFU. Really. Just STFU.

Stop pretending like that was the worst thing youve ever heard said about anyone on this message board. Theres been a lot of negative things said about a variety of people, many of which are/were Denver Broncos...some of them were our own. So, now, because some of you are spoonfed by the national media that Tony Dungy is something that ranges from being a saint to being an ambassador of football, youre all offended like the lemmings you are. Really. STFU.

And with that, lex proves that he's the dumbest poster on the mane. Thought it might be BF7, but it's not.

Congratulations, lex!

BTW, if you'd said that about TO's kid, or Marmalard's, or whoevers, you'd get the same response. It's an asinine remark, and it has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with the "spoon feeding media." Jesus, Rush Limbaugh has crawled inside your head and eaten whatever sense you had.

Pathetic.

lex
06-04-2009, 03:23 PM
Big man when you can hide behind the keyboard and live in another city.


I havent threatened anyone, jerkoff. Now go find some kleenex.

crush17
06-04-2009, 03:24 PM
lex,
are you okay? You seem like you may have had a bad day or something? Just an observation, but whether you like or don't like Tony Dungy, the thing you said about the suicide was a bit insensitive. Losing someone you love to something like that is pretty devastating, so it's a bit tactless to make that comment. Yes, no doubt many people have said some awful things, but that doesn't make your comment okay. So, again I ask, are you okay, because it seems like maybe something else is bothering you?

No, he's not ok, he's a worthless little twat who has nothing better to do than mock someone else's tradgedy and act like the biggest douchenozzle in the universe here day in and day out.

Really quite disgusting and pathetic.

crush17
06-04-2009, 03:26 PM
I havent threatened anyone, jerkoff. Now go find some kleenex.

never said you did, but you act all big and bad and talk all kinds of sh1t here, guarantee you wouldn't act the same way in real life.

i hate people like you who have "internet personalities" just for the sake of pissing people off.

you have a mental issue lex, get over yourself.

lex
06-04-2009, 03:27 PM
lex,
are you okay? You seem like you may have had a bad day or something? Just an observation, but whether you like or don't like Tony Dungy, the thing you said about the suicide was a bit insensitive. Losing someone you love to something like that is pretty devastating, so it's a bit tactless to make that comment. Yes, no doubt many people have said some awful things, but that doesn't make your comment okay. So, again I ask, are you okay, because it seems like maybe something else is bothering you?

I didnt pick on him for losing a son. I picked on him for profiting from losing a son. If anything, Im offended for the son. But 70% of the board consists of leghumping twits. They constantly have to have such things explained to them.

crush17
06-04-2009, 03:29 PM
I didnt pick on him for losing a son. I picked on him for profiting from losing a son. If anything, Im offended for the son. But 70% of the board consists of leghumping twits. They constantly have to have such things explained to them.

yeah, Tony Dungee, the millionaire head football coach in the NFL, wrote a book about his life and his son's tragic passing to "make money".

you're disgusting.

lex
06-04-2009, 03:32 PM
yeah, Tony Dungee, the millionaire head football coach in the NFL, wrote a book about his life and his son's tragic passing to "make money".

you're disgusting.

Dumb as a post and a hypocrite. You're the whole package. Anyway, you should really go get that tissue.

XXXII
06-04-2009, 03:33 PM
I didnt pick on him for losing a son. I picked on him for profiting from losing a son. If anything, Im offended for the son. But 70% of the board consists of leghumping twits. They constantly have to have such things explained to them.

going to have concur with the last post, he didn't write about his son to turn a profit. People write about life experiences, good and bad, in every memoir, and usually that involves other people. Paul Newman wrote a memoir, I am sure he mentioned his son who died from drugs, would you have said he was profiting off of his dead son? Some people share their painful memories in a way to illuminate and exorcise the pain. I think you deliberately say stuff the way you do to get attention for whatever reason. You knew you would get this reaction, had to have. Why do that?

lex
06-04-2009, 03:34 PM
going to have concur with the last post, he didn't write about his son to turn a profit. People write about life experiences, good and bad, in every memoir, and usually that involves other people. Paul Newman wrote a memoir, I am sure he mentioned his son who died from drugs, would you have said he was profiting off of his dead son? Some people share their painful memories in a way to illuminate and exorcise the pain. I think you deliberately say stuff the way you do to get attention for whatever reason. You knew you would get this reaction, had to have. Why do that?

Thats great, only Im not asking you to agree.

XXXII
06-04-2009, 03:41 PM
Thats great, only Im not asking you to agree.

Nor did I actually say you were asking me to agree, it's called a discussion board, I was stating my opinion which happened to align with a different poster then you.

Mr.Meanie
06-04-2009, 03:42 PM
lex,
are you okay? You seem like you may have had a bad day or something? Just an observation, but whether you like or don't like Tony Dungy, the thing you said about the suicide was a bit insensitive. Losing someone you love to something like that is pretty devastating, so it's a bit tactless to make that comment. Yes, no doubt many people have said some awful things, but that doesn't make your comment okay. So, again I ask, are you okay, because it seems like maybe something else is bothering you?

I think we broke him in the NBA thread. He'll never be the same. Ha!

XXXII
06-04-2009, 03:51 PM
I think we broke him in the NBA thread. He'll never be the same. Ha!

What happened in the NBA thread or do I not want to know...

And for a moment returning to the actual topic, I did find Dungy's comments pretty good actually. I mean he had a point, but was pretty restrained, which is different for anyone making comments in the press these days.

lex
06-04-2009, 03:52 PM
I think we broke him in the NBA thread. He'll never be the same. Ha!

Like I said, 70% of the board is leghumping twits.

Bronx33
06-04-2009, 03:58 PM
Like I said, 70% of the board is leghumping twits.

And 1% put their foot in their mouth every other post :clown:

lex
06-04-2009, 04:04 PM
And 1% put their foot in their mouth every other post :clown:

...if only you werent in that 70%,...then you could be taken seriously.

Miss I.
06-04-2009, 04:08 PM
So anyway, the real topic, what do you all think of Tony Dungy's comments about Cutler, or is it really just irrelevant at this point, what's done is done...Que Sera Sera...?

And Lex, for the record, your comments about Dungy were obviously intended to incite exactly this reaction because you seem to have some sort of superiority complex when it comes to the other posters on this board. The remarks was insensitive, asinine and pointless except to incite a series of you guys are stupid retorts. Shut up about it already, it was a douchebag remark to make. Stop thread jacking already.

Now back to Dungy and this take on Cutler.

DenverBrit
06-04-2009, 05:28 PM
...if only you werent in that 70%,...then you could be taken seriously.


No one here will make that mistake when your name is mentioned.

lazarus4444
06-04-2009, 05:43 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Classy.

Orange_Beard
06-04-2009, 05:53 PM
I can type with my foot in my mouth.

Gcver2ver3
06-04-2009, 06:01 PM
I didnt pick on him for losing a son. I picked on him for profiting from losing a son. If anything, Im offended for the son. But 70% of the board consists of leghumping twits. They constantly have to have such things explained to them.

wow look at this guy try and rationalize his horrific post...


what a friggin dirtbag...lol...

lazarus4444
06-04-2009, 06:10 PM
Back on topic, i think that Dungy knows his QB's and Coach McDaniels knows his QB's. I have a strange feeling that even if dungy coached the broncos jay would not have been long for this franchise.

TonyR
06-04-2009, 06:49 PM
Here's PFT's take:

Dungy Questions Cutler’s Maturity
Posted by Aaron Wilson on June 4, 2009, 2:51 p.m. EDT

Consider Tony Dungy officially skeptical about Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, raising questions about his attitude and his game.

The normally low-key former Indianapolis Colts coach was critical of Cutler’s maturity and leadership during a conference call to announce that Dungy and Rodney Harrison have been hired for NBC’s Sunday night studio program, according to Fred Mitchell of the Chicago Tribune.

Dungy woudn’t even proclaim that Cutler is the best quarterback in the NFC North.

“That remains to be seen,” Dungy said. “He is a very talented guy who can throw the ball very well. But quarterbacking is so much about leadership and so much about doing things under pressure. There is going to be a lot of pressure on him. …

“We’ll see about his maturity level. That’s what I would question. And some of the things that happened leading to him leaving Denver that would concern me as a head coach. He can make all of the throws, but quarterbacking is much more than just making throws.”

Cutler has drawn criticism for his attitude during his messy offseason divorce from the Denver Broncos. Plus, there has been some recent backlash from fans for not wanting to sign autographs.

Dungy, though, questioned Cutler’s game, too.

“They took a risk,” Dungy said. “I think they took that risk specifically with beating the Green Bay Packers in mind. I really think Chicago gave up a lot to get a quarterback who they believe is going to be the final piece of the puzzle. But I am not sure he has won enough to merit that yet.”

It sounds like Dungy and Harrison are off to a good start as analysts as far as being willing to express their opinions.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/04/dungy-questions-cutlers-maturity/

OABB
06-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Lex, you are as lame as bob.... you trolls are pathetic. You used to just be a douche, now you are an a-hole. You are a sad little man that needs a good throat punch.

hookemhess
06-04-2009, 08:12 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Douchebag post of the year.

OABB
06-04-2009, 08:19 PM
Douchebag post of the year.

He is also the runner up....

maher_tyler
06-04-2009, 08:26 PM
Lex, you are as lame as bob.... you trolls are pathetic. You used to just be a douche, now you are an a-hole. You are a sad little man that needs a good throat punch.

Yet everyone always responds to these fools just fueling their fire..stop responding to them.

Bronx33
06-04-2009, 08:32 PM
He is also the runner up....


I chalk it up to hard work and determination and zero sense of right and wrong.

lex
06-04-2009, 08:43 PM
So anyway, the real topic, what do you all think of Tony Dungy's comments about Cutler, or is it really just irrelevant at this point, what's done is done...Que Sera Sera...?

And Lex, for the record, your comments about Dungy were obviously intended to incite exactly this reaction because you seem to have some sort of superiority complex when it comes to the other posters on this board. The remarks was insensitive, asinine and pointless except to incite a series of you guys are stupid retorts. Shut up about it already, it was a douchebag remark to make. Stop thread jacking already.

Now back to Dungy and this take on Cutler.

Not at all. Nor should I treat Dungy with kid gloves because Im in no way accountable to the leghumping twit brigade.

lex
06-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Back on topic, i think that Dungy knows his QB's and Coach McDaniels knows his QB's. I have a strange feeling that even if dungy coached the broncos jay would not have been long for this franchise.

Are you kidding? Shawn King?

HEAV
06-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Has his other kid committed suicide yet? Im guessing not since i havent seen a new book lately.

Holy hell Lex. Was this really called for? Mane just as classy as always...

HEAV
06-04-2009, 09:16 PM
Some of you need to STFU. Really. Just STFU.

Stop pretending like that was the worst thing youve ever heard said about anyone on this message board. Theres been a lot of negative things said about a variety of people, many of which are/were Denver Broncos...some of them were our own. So, now, because some of you are spoonfed by the national media that Tony Dungy is something that ranges from being a saint to being an ambassador of football, youre all offended like the lemmings you are. Really. STFU.

I recall saying Lex was Mock-lite during the Cutler meltdowns. The post proves it.

But again TJ allows ****-dicks like Mock and Mock-wannbes continue to post or here. Then he wonders why the site isn't held in high regard with other Bronco fan sites.

lex
06-04-2009, 09:25 PM
I recall saying Lex was Mock-lite during the Cutler meltdowns. The post proves it.
But again TJ allows ****-***** like Mock and Mock-wannbes continue to post or here. Then he wonders why the site isn't held in high regard with other Bronco fan sites.

Thats great, except I doubt anyone really cares. And regarding your previous post, what makes you qualified to comment on class?

AbileneBroncoFan
06-04-2009, 09:42 PM
So anyway, the real topic, what do you all think of Tony Dungy's comments about Cutler, or is it really just irrelevant at this point, what's done is done...Que Sera Sera...?

It's irrelevant at this point, because it is a done deal, but Dungy is dead on questioning Cutler's maturity. Dungy has spent the past few years coaching the consumate professional, Peyton Manning, who is at every practice, watches more film than anyone in the league, and works harder than any other QB in the league. It recently came out that he was unhappy with the coaching situation up there (about a lack of communication between the new o. coordinator and staff or whatever, I didn't pay much attention to it), but I damn well guarantee you Peyton Manning was at every team activity this offseason, was in constant contact with his coaches, and is not going to bitch because he has a new head coach and offensive coordinator this year (and he'll probably put up 4000+ yards and 30 TDs or so, while winning 11 or 12 games during the season and being a serious contender in the playoffs). So, does anyone on this board think that if we had Peyton Manning as our QB, he would have not shown up to OTAs, would have blown off the HC and owner, and would have demanded a trade? No. He would not have, and even if he wasn't cheerful about the changes it would not effect his routine/preparation/performance in the least. With Cutler, he lost his composure and his focus, failed to take care of business, and got shipped out of town. If he couldn't handle the fact that Josh McDaniels entertained a phone call about him (as opposed to Shanahan and Bates kissing his ass all offseason), does anyone really think he could handle us going into Pittsburgh in January for a playoff game, with the blitz all over him, the fans going crazy, and us needing to drive 80 yards for a TD to keep our season alive? That's what Dungy is questioning, and he is perfectly correct to do so. Jay may prove the criticism wrong, but that's something he's going to have to do on the field in the playoffs. If you want to be treated as the big man, bigger than the team, coach, and owner, you damn well had better earn that treatment on the biggest stage. At this point, he has not. He has all the talent to do so, but as Shannon Sharpe once said, "If your season doesn't end with you standing on the platform with that trophy, confetti falling on your head, and we are the champions playing in the background, your season was a failure; and if you believe otherwise, you are sadly mistaken." At this point, Jay Cutler's career consists of 3 failed seasons by that definition (and it's really the only one that matters).

watermock
06-04-2009, 09:43 PM
That fact is Shanny HARDLY left a burning barn in Denver.

We were a durable RB and respectfull D away. We also had room under the cap.

It is NOW a burning barn IMO. There are alot of people not drinking the kool-aide.

5-11 or 6-10.

watermock
06-04-2009, 09:51 PM
It's irrelevant at this point, because it is a done deal, but Dungy is dead on questioning Cutler's maturity. Dungy has spent the past few years coaching the consumate professional, Peyton Manning, who is at every practice, watches more film than anyone in the league, and works harder than any other QB in the league. It recently came out that he was unhappy with the coaching situation up there (about a lack of communication between the new o. coordinator and staff or whatever, I didn't pay much attention to it), but I damn well guarantee you Peyton Manning was at every team activity this offseason, was in constant contact with his coaches, and is not going to b**** because he has a new head coach and offensive coordinator this year (and he'll probably put up 4000+ yards and 30 TDs or so, while winning 11 or 12 games during the season and being a serious contender in the playoffs). So, does anyone on this board think that if we had Peyton Manning as our QB, he would have not shown up to OTAs, would have blown off the HC and owner, and would have demanded a trade? No. He would not have, and even if he wasn't cheerful about the changes it would not effect his routine/preparation/performance in the least. With Cutler, he lost his composure and his focus, failed to take care of business, and got shipped out of town. If he couldn't handle the fact that Josh McDaniels entertained a phone call about him (as opposed to Shanahan and Bates kissing his ass all offseason), does anyone really think he could handle us going into Pittsburgh in January for a playoff game, with the blitz all over him, the fans going crazy, and us needing to drive 80 yards for a TD to keep our season alive? That's what Dungy is questioning, and he is perfectly correct to do so. Jay may prove the criticism wrong, but that's something he's going to have to do on the field in the playoffs. If you want to be treated as the big man, bigger than the team, coach, and owner, you damn well had better earn that treatment on the biggest stage. At this point, he has not. He has all the talent to do so, but as Shannon Sharpe once said, "If your season doesn't end with you standing on the platform with that trophy, confetti falling on your head, and we are the champions playing in the background, your season was a failure; and if you believe otherwise, you are sadly mistaken." At this point, Jay Cutler's career consists of 3 failed seasons by that definition (and it's really the only one that matters).

My oh my...

Bring up Jay demanding a new contract while your at it!

Shannon Sharpe has a big mouth and bigger lips. As far as Peyton Manning goes, he's upset at the COACHING changes!

Anyone that saw our D last year knew we were 1 and done in the playoffs anyway.

Buy a vowel.

AbileneBroncoFan
06-04-2009, 11:53 PM
My oh my...

Bring up Jay demanding a new contract while your at it!

Jay Cutler simply did not act in a manner conducive to the word professional. If Philip Rivers had boycotted the team and ignored his coach, I assure you, everyone on this board would be crucifying him as a piece of trash.

Shannon Sharpe has a big mouth and bigger lips.

As well as 3 Super Bowl rings, multiple all-pro seasons, and he will be in the NFL Hall of Fame sooner rather than later.

As far as Peyton Manning goes, he's upset at the COACHING changes!

Yet he somehow manages to show up to team activities, he is not ignoring the Colt's owner/front office, and he has not demanded to be traded. Plus, unlike Jay Cutler, Peyton Manning has a Super Bowl ring, a Super Bowl MVP trophy, 3 NFL MVP trophies, and several all-pro accolades. If he retired today he would be a first ballot Hall of Famer. If Jay Cutler retired today, he would be forgotten about 10 years from now. I believe it was Cutler who was upset that his boys Shanahan and Bates were replaced. Manning's HC and OC were replaced, and he has critiqued the communication between the new staff. Compare that to what Cutler did and tell me who acted in a more professional manner. If you think for one second Peyton ****ing Manning is less of a professional than Jay Cutler you need to lay off whatever it is you're on. Now, it's late and I may have misinterpreted your meaning, and if that is the case, I apologize for the mini tirade.

Anyone that saw our D last year knew we were 1 and done in the playoffs anyway.

Buy a vowel.

That is correct. However, if we had kept Shanahan and Cutler, we would not win the Super Bowl this year either. That mess was not going to be fixed until we got a legitimate defensive coordinator on this team, and for whatever reason I'll never figure out, Shanahan was sticking with Slowik. Things would not have gotten any better this year.

azbroncfan
06-05-2009, 12:51 AM
My oh my...

Bring up Jay demanding a new contract while your at it!

Shannon Sharpe has a big mouth and bigger lips. As far as Peyton Manning goes, he's upset at the COACHING changes!

Anyone that saw our D last year knew we were 1 and done in the playoffs anyway.

Buy a vowel.

Eat some peanut butter. You should of been done with this thread once you commented on Dungy and thinking he was still the coach of the COLTS.

Hulamau
06-05-2009, 03:23 AM
That fact is Shanny HARDLY left a burning barn in Denver.

We were a durable RB and respectfull D away. We also had room under the cap.

It is NOW a burning barn IMO. There are alot of people not drinking the kool-aide.

5-11 or 6-10.

Mock, the ironic thing is with this brutal schedule and all the changes, we could go 6-10 or even 5-11 this year and STILL be making fundamental core improvements in this team and its direction compared to the last two years! And have a better chance to be competitive again for years to come as a result of all these changes .. and more to come next year. And besides, 8-8 last year was a bit deceptive as well.

Sure, we had a high-powered offense, except when it really counted, in the red zone and the end of the season. We could have easily been 6-10 last year and probably should have been as a closer reflection of how this team played as a whole.

A few bright spots and a lot of embarrassment all around. We are going to have to grow a lot now, but we still have a strong cast on offense and a better overall group on D even though not close to ideal yet.

Shanny's shtick here had simply worn itself out ... period. That was clear the way he lost control of the team the last couple years and the guys just weren't getting it up for him any longer.

Those last three games were a pathetic display of coaching and motivation .. when everything was on the line.

Soooo, lets look at reality. The reality is Shanny was a great coach for us for a very long time. We owe him a debt of gratitude for all the glory he brought to Denver. But for his own well being and legacy he NEEDED this break and time to get re-energized .. maybe learn how to turn on a computer and email and perhaps start getting really hungry again for the limelight and the success he has had in the past . And I wish him well as long as he isn't playing us.

Another reality, neither you nor anyone else will EVER know what might have been this year with Shanny and Slowik still here ... and everyone still licking Cutler's very tiny and sweaty balls. Maybe we go to the SB ... maybe the team implodes. More likely we put up more exasperating teasing years like the last few with loads of promise early on and total fail at the end.

Do you really think this defense would have gotten the true overhaul it needed with Slowik picking the schemes and Shanny picking the front seven guys???

Not likely.

As such, the prescription for enjoying this next couple years at all is to get over all the "what might have been's" fantasies and realize this is a project. McD has brought some badly needed discipline and focus to all the little things that was sorely needed here, and during the course of this year it will be abundantly clear which other players we need to put this new puzzle together.

Our fate today would not necessarily be any brighter had we gotten Raji instead of Moreno ( the back we also desperately needed). The rest of the guys we got are solid prospects even if you don't like where we got them. But this turn around is going to sink or swim far more on the coaches putting everyone on the team in better position to succeed and getting a hell of a lot more out of every guy on the roster than Shanny was able to do the last few years when he obviously lost the fire somewhere along the way.

Why not give the young coach a break and see what happens first before assuming its all a hopeless cause!?!? The only thing is, any meaningful take and assessment is going to take more than this season to decipher, so a longer range perspective is warranted and not myopic "win NOW or you're a chump" mentality.

Anyway, your displeasure is duly noted and you have all the freedom and right to bitch all you wish, but hey its only June in year one!

Life's cruel enough without piling on extra self-inflicted punishment that might not even be necessary. :peace:

chawknz
06-05-2009, 08:15 AM
This is amazing insight that I haven't heard anywhere else!
Uhh

broncocalijohn
06-05-2009, 12:24 PM
wow look at this guy try and rationalize his horrific post...


what a friggin dirtbag...lol...

neg rep him so you can be neg repped back with his explanation. Dude has lost so much clout in such a short time. Congrats lex. Your post was uncalled for and unclassy and yet the neg reps you have received are completely wrong in "our" thinking. Moron.

broncocalijohn
06-05-2009, 12:47 PM
BTW: Dungy needs to be more edgy, opinionated and have a strong personality. He is a color commentator on Sunday Night football so his opinions matter and need to be heard. He is coming out of his shell and how ironic for us that his first coming out party was the status of Cutler.

Gcver2ver3
06-05-2009, 01:09 PM
neg rep him so you can be neg repped back with his explanation. Dude has lost so much clout in such a short time. Congrats lex. Your post was uncalled for and unclassy and yet the neg reps you have received are completely wrong in "our" thinking. Moron.

i didn't neg rep him, but he negged repped me anyway...

called me a lemming...lol...okay whatever...doesn't even make sense but i could care less anyhow...

his comment was so despicable that i just felt the urge to call him a dirtbag a few times...

and i did so i'll leave'em be for now...

gyldenlove
06-05-2009, 01:26 PM
I bet we won't play more than 6 games against teams with a .500 or better record. I know some of the teams look quite scary, but as we saw last year it doesn't take much to go from riches to rags in the NFL.

Hulamau
06-05-2009, 11:00 PM
I bet we won't play more than 6 games against teams with a .500 or better record. I know some of the teams look quite scary, but as we saw last year it doesn't take much to go from riches to rags in the NFL.

Good point and I'm counting on that rationale holding true for us this year at least to some degree. I'm also hoping for a more or less rags to riches story out of Dove Valley, even if it takes two or three years to complete.

scttgrd
06-05-2009, 11:12 PM
Good point and I'm counting on that rationale holding true for us this year at least to some degree. I'm also hoping for a more or less rags to riches story out of Dove Valley, even if it takes two or three years to complete.

So you are hoping for a team that can win in a couple of years versus a team that hasn't had a losing season for how long? Now I understand, you have low expectations for the new regime.

strafen
06-05-2009, 11:26 PM
Dumb as a post and a hypocrite. You're the whole package. Anyway, you should really go get that tissue.you are a freakin' asshat, and a d-bag!

Dukes
06-05-2009, 11:27 PM
I love this place

Hulamau
06-05-2009, 11:38 PM
So you are hoping for a team that can win in a couple of years versus a team that hasn't had a losing season for how long? Now I understand, you have low expectations for the new regime.

Wrong, those are your words not mine scttgrd. I'm hoping for a team that is competing for a SB berth and good enough to win it within three years. Of course, I want to win the SB ASAP as well, but so many variables like luck with injuries and schedules and other crap shoots go into that happening.

What I'm counting on is McD putting together all the elements needed to make this team an elite competitor again that is among the top 5 teams each year, including a new energy, discipline and belief in themselves. What has me more optimistic than a few of you navel gazers is that I see plenty elements, though still very early, that he's on that track now.

I'm tired of 8-8 seasons with the same old platitudes from Shanny each week about "We'll see what we are made of now" etc. I'm tired of starting out like SB champs for the first 4 games every year and then laying a giant crapper the last 4.

I want to see a smart and STRONG football team again.

scttgrd
06-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Hey, I share the hopes of success with you. I just don't see it happening with this cast or this coach. I want wins damnit not this "the player" crap. He might know how to put a nice offense togther but I have no faith.

lex
06-06-2009, 04:41 AM
neg rep him so you can be neg repped back with his explanation. Dude has lost so much clout in such a short time. Congrats lex. Your post was uncalled for and unclassy and yet the neg reps you have received are completely wrong in "our" thinking. Moron.

Clout? Are you kidding me? The fact that youre preoccupied with "clout" just goes to show how much of a lemming you are? "Oh no, I better not say that because it will hurt a lot of feelings and Ill lose "clout"."

BroncoInSkinland
06-06-2009, 05:26 AM
I bet we won't play more than 6 games against teams with a .500 or better record. I know some of the teams look quite scary, but as we saw last year it doesn't take much to go from riches to rags in the NFL.

This is a good point, but several of the teams are perenial contenders as well. NE, Pittsburg, Indianapolis (although they could slide without Dungy), and even SD recently as much as it pains me to say it. Baltimore had a bad season 2 years ago, but other than that they have been in the mix a lot. I do think somewhere in the NFC East someone will slide, or maybe two, but not sure who. Giants could be in trouble without Plaxico they didn't look so good. Was it Romo or TO in Dallas, won't be long til we find out. Is Campbell going to let the trade and draft issues throw him off mentally? I don't know if so many will slip that the 6 games holds true, but it might not be as bad as it looks now. The other side of the coin though is it could be worse. Philly could be even tougher if they keep McNabb on his feet more often, Washington did a lot to improve an already effective defense. Could be a very ugly year.

barryr
06-06-2009, 12:11 PM
Wow, the class being shown by the Cutler fans and McDaniel haters and now Dungy haters because he isn't kissing Cutler's ass. Embarrassing and sick to say the least.