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TonyR
05-31-2009, 02:52 PM
Hesitated posting this, and then figured "why not?" Boring offseason doldrums, maybe this will spark some "fun"...


Cutler Alienating Bears Fans?
Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 31, 2009, 4:44 p.m. EDT

Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, the rocket-armed Pro Bowl passer acquired this offseason in a blockbuster trade from the Denver Broncos, apparently isn’t making himself very popular with the local fan base.

According to David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune, Cutler is turning off some fans by refusing to sign autographs while attending Chicago Cubs baseball games.

“I know Cutler already has alienated enough small pockets of fans at various appearances in Chicago to produce a flurry of furious e-mails, such as the one from a guy at Wrigley Field last week who criticized the quarterback for waving off autograph seekers,” Haugh writes. “Generally speaking, the same folks complaining about Cutler’s insouciant behavior will be cheering him on his first 350-yard Sunday. Sure, Cutler could do himself some favors by exuding more charm or suffering the occasional fool with a little less outward disdain.

“But those who have been Bears fans for two decades or two generations, need to remember Cutler has been here for two months. There will be and has been a degree of culture shock. Denver isn’t Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city. If he doesn’t, then he will get what he deserves. But it’s too early in his tenure to predict that.”

As Haugh correctly pointed out, Cutler just got to town. Plus, football isn’t a popularity contest.

It’s a game of skill and will.

Nonetheless, this piece of information does tend to reinforce the bad reputation that Cutler gained during his messy divorce from the Denver Broncos.

Besides working on throwing touchdown passes, Cutler might want to sign a few autographs.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/31/cutler-alienating-fans/


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-haugh-bears-marinellimay31,0,7346161.column

SoCalBronco
05-31-2009, 02:54 PM
Yawn.

footstepsfrom#27
05-31-2009, 02:56 PM
I hear he bites his nails and passes gas in mixed company.

Los Broncos
05-31-2009, 02:58 PM
Lay off the drinking.

Broncosfreak_56
05-31-2009, 02:58 PM
It only took Chicago a month to realize he is a douchebag.

Gcver2ver3
05-31-2009, 02:58 PM
[I]ďBut those who have been Bears fans for two decades or two generations, need to remember Cutler has been here for two months. There will be and has been a degree of culture shock. Denver isnít Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city


Chicago Bears = 2 SB appearances...
Denver Broncos = 6 SB appearnaces...



they must be talking about the 50s...

Hercules Rockefeller
05-31-2009, 03:08 PM
Chicago Bears = 2 SB appearances...
Denver Broncos = 6 SB appearnaces...



they must be talking about the 50s...

Try the 30's and 40's.

90% of their fanbase doesn't know what it's like to have a franchise QB, so the tradition argument doesn't apply in this respect.

TheReverend
05-31-2009, 03:12 PM
I heard he supports interracial couples.

tsiguy96
05-31-2009, 03:16 PM
wow, it only took them a month to realize how he is.

BroncoBuff
05-31-2009, 03:20 PM
90% of their fanbase doesn't know what it's like to have a franchise QB, so the tradition argument doesn't apply in this respect.

Glad to see another one agreeing that Jay is a franchise quarterback ;D

SonOfLe-loLang
05-31-2009, 03:24 PM
Denver is a football obsessed city? The city that reported what kind of candy elway gave for halloween?

bombay
05-31-2009, 03:30 PM
“But those who have been Bears fans for two decades or two generations, need to remember Cutler has been here for two months. There will be and has been a degree of culture shock. Denver isn’t Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city. If he doesn’t, then he will get what he deserves. But it’s too early in his tenure to predict that.”

Dream on, dumbass. Cutler won't 'adjust'.

You don't know who he is yet.

Cito Pelon
05-31-2009, 03:57 PM
Yawn.

That's so cute!

Such a clever little girl you are!

I'm sure your Mommy and Daddy are very proud of you!

SoCalBronco
05-31-2009, 04:15 PM
That's so cute!

Such a clever little girl you are!

I'm sure your Mommy and Daddy are very proud of you!

They are, indeed.

WABronco
05-31-2009, 04:17 PM
That he's a bit of a prick is news? Oh well.

Threaten to trade him Bears fans, see if he has a nervous twitch at the mention of "'trade"...

NASurfer
05-31-2009, 04:24 PM
Chicago Bears = 2 SB appearances...
Denver Broncos = 6 SB appearnaces...



they must be talking about the 50s...
I think most NFC teams believe their tradition is richer then AFC teams.

Hercules Rockefeller
05-31-2009, 04:34 PM
Glad to see another one agreeing that Jay is a franchise quarterback ;D

Never said he wasn't. I've just never been in the group that thinks Jay can piss and moan, whine like a little bitch to get his way, and say whatever he wants simply because he's a franchise QB.

broncofan7
05-31-2009, 04:41 PM
As the author of the article wrote--as soon as he passes for 300+ yards and 3TD's all will be forgiven........and as we enter into a QB controversy by our BYE week next season when we are 1-5 or 2-4--we will be wishing that we had a QB that warranted people seeking his autograph..........

SoCalBronco
05-31-2009, 04:45 PM
As the author of the article wrote--as soon as he passes for 300+ yards and 3TD's all will be forgiven........and as we enter into a QB controversy by our BYE week next season when we are 1-5 or 2-4--we will be wishing that we had a QB that warranted people seeking his autograph..........

I don't think we're going to start out 1-5. The first three games are pretty soft and people will probably get a false euphoria because we'll start out pretty well. It's the next 10 games that will bring weekly meltdowns.

cutthemdown
05-31-2009, 04:48 PM
Cutler only got Broncos to 16th in scoring and we went 8-8. Why do people think being middle of the pack in scoring is so tough to reach?

Not only will Broncos score as many, or more points this yr but they will give up less.

Broncos were never good even one yr with Cutler. All 3 of his yrs stunk. IMO it won't be hard to match that.

broncofan7
05-31-2009, 04:57 PM
I don't think we're going to start out 1-5. The first three games are pretty soft and people will probably get a false euphoria because we'll start out pretty well. It's the next 10 games that will bring weekly meltdowns.

Really? Cincy's defense played REALLY well down the stretch last year and they added Rey-Rey--a quality MLB. Carson Palmer returns and they open @ home--I think that we will be in for a fight.

Week 2--CLE--we had BETTER win our home opener.

week 3 @ JOKELAND---Garcia will be starting for them by then and their defense is solid--the next 3 games--we will be A$$ raped--DAL, NE @ SD. Yikes--if we win 2 of our first 6 I will be pleasantly surprised (I cannot believe I just typed that)

Merlin
05-31-2009, 05:41 PM
Yikes--if we win 2 of our first 6 I will be pleasantly surprised (I cannot believe I just typed that)
I think you may be right, we could have a really ugly start. However, if the HC is half as good as some here believe he is, then we should have at least 3 wins. I honestly don't know how good or bad a HC he may be, I just have some very reasonable concerns.

Dudeskey
05-31-2009, 05:57 PM
I don't think we're going to start out 1-5. The first three games are pretty soft and people will probably get a false euphoria because we'll start out pretty well. It's the next 10 games that will bring weekly meltdowns.

Hopefully Bluflame or whoever's modding this joint has their calender's marked to disable avatars...

scttgrd
05-31-2009, 06:06 PM
When and if the Broncos make the playoffs, I want to hear from the McDaniels crew, till then it's all a promise.

cutthemdown
05-31-2009, 06:23 PM
When and if the Broncos make the playoffs, I want to hear from the McDaniels crew, till then it's all a promise.

Shanny left the defense and special teams in shambles, may take 2 yrs to make playoffs.

SouthStndJunkie
05-31-2009, 06:36 PM
Great....another Jay Cutler is a meanie thread.

I put the over/under on threads like this at 200 for the year.

TheReverend
05-31-2009, 06:41 PM
Great....another Jay Cutler is a meanie thread.

I put the over/under on threads like this at 200 for the year.

Over.

We had to have cracked that back in April.

Circle Orange
05-31-2009, 06:42 PM
At this point it isn't a big deal. In Chicago, quarterback "reporting" is baiting, name calling and childish commentary equal to an elementary school rag. He's lucky fatso Mariotti has left town.

Okay, he not sign autographs. Poor Chicago, I wouldn't even want the dude's autograph right now. Big deal.

I don't know what he is or isn't, but according to several articles everyone is now due for a "breakout year" even the defense of Chicago. WOW! All that packed in one man...he's so dang good everyone is now 20 percent more talented on the Chicago roster!! ROFL!

Gort
05-31-2009, 06:49 PM
i can't wait to see what they write about Cutler when he starts throwing his patented red-zone picks. they are going to turn on him fast.

Cutler is the 2nd coming of Jeff George. Ha!

Bob's your Information Minister
05-31-2009, 06:51 PM
Cutler's not a douchebag...the fans whining over autographs are...

epicSocialism4tw
05-31-2009, 07:10 PM
Hesitated posting this, and then figured "why not?" Boring offseason doldrums, maybe this will spark some "fun"...


Cutler Alienating Bears Fans?
Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 31, 2009, 4:44 p.m. EDT

Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, the rocket-armed Pro Bowl passer acquired this offseason in a blockbuster trade from the Denver Broncos, apparently isnít making himself very popular with the local fan base.

According to David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune, Cutler is turning off some fans by refusing to sign autographs while attending Chicago Cubs baseball games.

ďI know Cutler already has alienated enough small pockets of fans at various appearances in Chicago to produce a flurry of furious e-mails, such as the one from a guy at Wrigley Field last week who criticized the quarterback for waving off autograph seekers,Ē Haugh writes. ďGenerally speaking, the same folks complaining about Cutlerís insouciant behavior will be cheering him on his first 350-yard Sunday. Sure, Cutler could do himself some favors by exuding more charm or suffering the occasional fool with a little less outward disdain.

ďBut those who have been Bears fans for two decades or two generations, need to remember Cutler has been here for two months. There will be and has been a degree of culture shock. Denver isnít Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city. If he doesnít, then he will get what he deserves. But itís too early in his tenure to predict that.Ē[/I]

[I]As Haugh correctly pointed out, Cutler just got to town. Plus, football isnít a popularity contest.

Itís a game of skill and will.

Nonetheless, this piece of information does tend to reinforce the bad reputation that Cutler gained during his messy divorce from the Denver Broncos.

Besides working on throwing touchdown passes, Cutler might want to sign a few autographs.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/31/cutler-alienating-fans/


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-haugh-bears-marinellimay31,0,7346161.column

Football rich?

What have the Bears ever done? They had Walter Payton and won a superbowl and put out some cheesy dance video?

Cutler just came from Denver, where there might as well be no other sport on the scene.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-31-2009, 07:11 PM
What have the Bears ever done?

Does the name George ****ing Halas mean anything to you?

BroncoMan4ever
05-31-2009, 07:19 PM
Really? Cincy's defense played REALLY well down the stretch last year and they added Rey-Rey--a quality MLB. Carson Palmer returns and they open @ home--I think that we will be in for a fight.

Week 2--CLE--we had BETTER win our home opener.

week 3 @ JOKELAND---Garcia will be starting for them by then and their defense is solid--the next 3 games--we will be A$$ raped--DAL, NE @ SD. Yikes--if we win 2 of our first 6 I will be pleasantly surprised (I cannot believe I just typed that)

give me a break. Dallas are the Chargers of the NFC. tons of talent, but they still suck. McDaniels knows NE and where to exploit weaknesses so that will be a lot closer than people think. and we will split the series with SD.
i really don't care how much Cincy has brought in or that Carson is back, they are the eternal underachievers and will still suck.

Cleveland, give me a break, they are just terrible

Oakland is a must win for McDaniels. he knows it and he will have the team ready to play, and as good as their defense is, they still aren't that great on offense.

Denver will open the first 6 games of the season at 4-2.

eddie mac
05-31-2009, 07:29 PM
The Bears fans couldn't spell alienating. Wait till he starts bitching about the Organisation, sulks at home, doesn't return phone calls and asks to be traded.

Then they can yap about their QB.

broncosteven
05-31-2009, 08:06 PM
Hesitated posting this, and then figured "why not?" Boring offseason doldrums, maybe this will spark some "fun"...


Cutler Alienating Bears Fans?
Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 31, 2009, 4:44 p.m. EDT

Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, the rocket-armed Pro Bowl passer acquired this offseason in a blockbuster trade from the Denver Broncos, apparently isnít making himself very popular with the local fan base.

According to David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune, Cutler is turning off some fans by refusing to sign autographs while attending Chicago Cubs baseball games.

ďI know Cutler already has alienated enough small pockets of fans at various appearances in Chicago to produce a flurry of furious e-mails, such as the one from a guy at Wrigley Field last week who criticized the quarterback for waving off autograph seekers,Ē Haugh writes. ďGenerally speaking, the same folks complaining about Cutlerís insouciant behavior will be cheering him on his first 350-yard Sunday. Sure, Cutler could do himself some favors by exuding more charm or suffering the occasional fool with a little less outward disdain.

ďBut those who have been Bears fans for two decades or two generations, need to remember Cutler has been here for two months. There will be and has been a degree of culture shock. Denver isnít Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city. If he doesnít, then he will get what he deserves. But itís too early in his tenure to predict that.Ē

As Haugh correctly pointed out, Cutler just got to town. Plus, football isnít a popularity contest.

Itís a game of skill and will.

Nonetheless, this piece of information does tend to reinforce the bad reputation that Cutler gained during his messy divorce from the Denver Broncos.

Besides working on throwing touchdown passes, Cutler might want to sign a few autographs.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/31/cutler-alienating-fans/


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-haugh-bears-marinellimay31,0,7346161.column

This is funny because Mark Prior did the same things to Cub fans a few years back. At the time he was coming off the playoff year and signed up for a paid sig session at some dudes store. He showed up pissed off, they could tell he didn't want to do it he pissed off a bunch of fans and the owner, and the Radio guy who was out there on a remote and then got in his car and left.

Blueflame
05-31-2009, 08:43 PM
If their team wins, Bears fans will love and accept Jay regardless of how he behaves on his own time (good or bad). 'Course that's how it is in any city with an NFL franchise.

DHallblows
05-31-2009, 09:12 PM
Cutler just came from Denver, where there might as well be no other sport on the scene.

Huh ???

DarkHorse30
05-31-2009, 10:21 PM
Itís a game of skill and will.



I don't see the "will" part in Cutler.....unless it's the "I 'will' not lead my team into the playoffs"

Popps
05-31-2009, 10:39 PM
I just got in... what's this? Jay Cutler is a douche-bag?!?

~Crash~
05-31-2009, 10:41 PM
you guys really need to get a grip.....

~Crash~
05-31-2009, 10:42 PM
becase The bears are going to win the SB this year and this kind of **** is going to drive you over the edge

epicSocialism4tw
05-31-2009, 10:49 PM
becase The bears are going to win the SB this year and this kind of **** is going to drive you over the edge

That would be awful.

~Crash~
05-31-2009, 10:54 PM
That would be awful.

well we will pick high next year deal with it .that is the way it is going to be hope I am wrong but I woke up early one morning way before cutler was traded to the bears and looked my wife in the eyes and told her the bears are going to win the SB ... I have done this before and was right . several times by the way the First SB we won I also did this .

lex
05-31-2009, 11:02 PM
You guys are like a bunch of bitter ex-girlfriends...and to wonder why anyone would ever suggest Denver is too small-townish to be a star player.

SoCalBronco
05-31-2009, 11:03 PM
well we will pick high next year deal with it ..

Don't you mean Seattle will be picking high?

epicSocialism4tw
05-31-2009, 11:03 PM
well we will pick high next year deal with it .that is the way it is going to be hope I am wrong but I woke up early one morning way before cutler was traded to the bears and looked my wife in the eyes and told her the bears are going to win the SB ... I have done this before and was right . several times by the way the First SB we won I also did this .

We wont pick high if the Bears make the SB because they have our pick. We would pick last in that instance.

A SB trip by the Bears would certify this last offseason as the worst case of mismanagement in the history of the Denver Broncos.

Popps
05-31-2009, 11:20 PM
We wont pick high if the Bears make the SB because they have our pick. We would pick last in that instance.

A SB trip by the Bears would certify this last offseason as the worst case of mismanagement in the history of the Denver Broncos.

The Bears won't win any SBs. Beyond that, even if they did... douche-boy didn't want to be a Bronco, so anything he does with the Bears wasn't our decision.

He's gone. Man-up, fan-up and get over it.

epicSocialism4tw
05-31-2009, 11:24 PM
The Bears won't win any SBs. Beyond that, even if they did... douche-boy didn't want to be a Bronco, so anything he does with the Bears wasn't our decision.

He's gone. Man-up, fan-up and get over it.

LOL

It would be nice if the simple fact that Cutler was traded was the end of it. Instead we have a timeline of the hiring of a new coach followed by a seemingly endless string of McFumbles.

Popps
05-31-2009, 11:43 PM
LOL

It would be nice if the simple fact that Cutler was traded was the end of it. Instead we have a timeline of the hiring of a new coach followed by a seemingly endless string of McFumbles.

Only in your mind, kid.

Great move by Bowlen bringing in the best young coaching prospect in the NFL. Too bad the pouty little bitch QB couldn't man-up and do his job.

Life goes on, and maybe we'll actually build a team that can win instead of an 8-8 joke every season led by a sad-sack, mopey QB.

Florida_Bronco
05-31-2009, 11:54 PM
LOL

It would be nice if the simple fact that Cutler was traded was the end of it. Instead we have a timeline of the hiring of a new coach followed by a seemingly endless string of McFumbles.

I agree with Popps. We would have egg on our face had we got rid of Jay by our own accord, but he didn't want to be here. He forced our hand.

epicSocialism4tw
05-31-2009, 11:54 PM
Only in your mind, kid.

Great move by Bowlen bringing in the best young coaching prospect in the NFL. Too bad the pouty little b**** QB couldn't man-up and do his job.

Life goes on, and maybe we'll actually build a team that can win instead of an 8-8 joke every season led by a sad-sack, mopey QB.

...or maybe we get a few years of 3-4 win seasons and the eventual firing of the Matt Millen of coaches...who knows.

I do know this though, if the McD continues his current string of great moves, we'll see the franchise wreck sooner rather than later.

fdf
06-01-2009, 12:18 AM
We wont pick high if the Bears make the SB because they have our pick. We would pick last in that instance.

A SB trip by the Bears would certify this last offseason as the worst case of mismanagement in the history of the Denver Broncos.

IHOP. Dale Carter. George Foster. Willie Middlebrooks. Marcus Nash. Hiring Bates. Hiring Rhodes. Hiring Coyer. Hiring Slowick. Not paying Gary Kubiak 10 million dollars a year to stay with the team. And that's just scratching the surface.

The Broncos for years have been a case study in great offensive coaching and terrible offseason management. That combination kept us competitively mediocre after the SB years until 2007, when we went over the cliff.

The bar is high for McDaniels.

epicSocialism4tw
06-01-2009, 12:21 AM
IHOP. Dale Carter. George Foster. Willie Middlebrooks. Marcus Nash. Hiring Bates. Hiring Rhodes. Hiring Coyer. Hiring Slowick. Not paying Gary Kubiak 10 million dollars a year to stay with the team. And that's just scratching the surface.

The Broncos for years have been a case study in great offensive coaching and terrible offseason management. That combination kept us competitively mediocre after the SB years until 2007, when we went over the cliff.

The bar is high for McDaniels.

I agree with your cynical take.

The inability of Bowen to find a competent manager for the franchise has led to mediocrity. Shanny was a good enough coach to polish his management-produced turds into a mediocre product. McD isnt shanny. Hopefully some magic serendipity will launch this thing into the stratosphere.

richpjr
06-01-2009, 12:45 AM
And so it begins...

worm
06-01-2009, 12:55 AM
I am all done with this topic....but... ;D

Saying it was Cutler who didn't want to be here is a little like having your girlfriend\wife cheat on you first...then having everybody criticize you because you didn't want to stick it out.

FireFly
06-01-2009, 02:06 AM
Cutler only got Broncos to 16th in scoring and we went 8-8. Why do people think being middle of the pack in scoring is so tough to reach?

Not only will Broncos score as many, or more points this yr but they will give up less.

Broncos were never good even one yr with Cutler. All 3 of his yrs stunk. IMO it won't be hard to match that.

As hard as it is to hear that for a lot of people, I think you've hit the nail on the head and its a very fair and objective analysis of his tenure here.

Blueflame
06-01-2009, 03:17 AM
I am all done with this topic....but... ;D

Saying it was Cutler who didn't want to be here is a little like having your girlfriend\wife cheat on you first...then having everybody criticize you because you didn't want to stick it out.

Very apt analogy. :notworthy

fdf
06-01-2009, 05:56 AM
Very apt analogy. :notworthy

Well it is. But not for the reasons you think. Cutler and McDaniels weren't husband and wife. They were business associates. But Cutler acted as if he had just walked in on his wife pulling a train with his brothers and best man.

His behavior was completely inappropriate for a businessman making millions of dollars, unless: (1) He has the emotional maturity of a 13 year old boy; or (2) He wanted out for reasons completely extraneous to whatever McDaniels did or did not do. I lean toward the later explanation; although (1) is a possibility.

Broncojef
06-01-2009, 06:12 AM
Cutler is who he is...tons of talent, childish attitude, good games and bad with indifference to anything but himself. History will repeat itself in Chicago.

El Guapo
06-01-2009, 06:59 AM
Denver isnít Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city.

So are they saying Denver isn't "tradition rich"?

TailgateNut
06-01-2009, 07:35 AM
As the author of the article wrote--as soon as he passes for 300+ yards and 3TD's all will be forgiven........and as we enter into a QB controversy by our BYE week next season when we are 1-5 or 2-4--we will be wishing that we had a QB that warranted people seeking his autograph..........


:rofl:

So how are we going to do THIS SEASON, if NEXT season we'll be 1-5 or 2-4 by bye week.

You should just jump off the wagon with the rest of the Jay lovers.

Garcia Bronco
06-01-2009, 07:36 AM
He alienated Bronco Fans too. This isn't a suprise.

broncofan7
06-01-2009, 07:38 AM
:rofl:

So how are we going to do THIS SEASON, if NEXT season we'll be 1-5 or 2-4 by bye week.

You should just jump off the wagon with the rest of the Jay lovers.

My, you are clever! Can't get one by you!

You are going to need TWICE the amount of alcohol, Fat chicks and food this year @ your tailgates to stomach this season---book that Danno.........

~Crash~
06-01-2009, 08:45 AM
The Bears won't win any Sb's. Beyond that, even if they did... douche-boy didn't want to be a Bronco, so anything he does with the Bears wasn't our decision.

He's gone. Man-up, fan-up and get over it.

you are the one that needs to man up I am over it you are the one in denial. He wanted out of town because his Coach lied to him why you so damn silly about this ? He also made Cutler sit out side his Office for over an hour the Friday they tried to trade him McD stuck his knife in Cutlers Back and twisted it but you guys don't get that . I am fine with were we are I don't blame Cutler if I waited out side my boss's office for an hour and half and never did see my boss and gave up and left then found out he was on the phone trying to deal me I would be pissed .you bunch are doing selective memories ...

Beantown Bronco
06-01-2009, 08:49 AM
Simple life lesson here that Broncos fans learned, but Bears fans have yet to learn:

Don't cut in line while waiting for a Cutler autograph.

~Crash~
06-01-2009, 08:53 AM
:rofl:

So how are we going to do THIS SEASON, if NEXT season we'll be 1-5 or 2-4 by bye week.

You should just jump off the wagon with the rest of the Jay lovers.

Nope I see it just the opposite you guys that can't stand the truth will get slapped with it soon enough .

bronco militia
06-01-2009, 08:54 AM
Simple life lesson here that Broncos fans learned, but Bears fans have yet to learn:

Don't cut in line while waiting for a Cutler autograph.

Ha!

kamakazi_kal
06-01-2009, 08:55 AM
tonyR + Tsiguy X popps = haters.
Talk about people who can't let it go.

wait .....


Kamakai_kal = someone who still thinks letting this crying bitc%ing baby go was a bad idea.

broncofan7
06-01-2009, 09:11 AM
Simple life lesson here that Broncos fans learned, but Bears fans have yet to learn:

Don't cut in line while waiting for a Cutler autograph.

Hilarious!

TailgateNut
06-01-2009, 09:25 AM
you are the one that needs to man up I am over it you are the one in denial. He wanted out of town because his Coach lied to him why you so damn silly about this ? He also made Cutler sit out side his Office for over an hour the Friday they tried to trade him McD stuck his knife in Cutlers Back and twisted it but you guys don't get that . I am fine with were we are I don't blame Cutler if I waited out side my boss's office for an hour and half and never did see my boss and gave up and left then found out he was on the phone trying to deal me I would be pissed .you bunch are doing selective memories ...

Geez. Commas are cheap!:rofl:

TailgateNut
06-01-2009, 09:26 AM
Nope I see it just the opposite you guys that can't stand the truth will get slapped with it soon enough .

WHAAAAT?

Could someone tranlate this gibberish into something resembling english.

kamakazi_kal
06-01-2009, 09:28 AM
WHAAAAT?

Could someone tranlate this gibberish into something resembling english.

translation = the QB position is now the weakest position on the Denver Broncos 2009 offense.

TailgateNut
06-01-2009, 09:33 AM
translation = the QB position is now the weakest position on the Denver Broncos 2009 offense.

So, nothing has changed since crybaby moved to the windy city. Just a different face behind under the helmet.
:wiggle:

orangeatheist
06-01-2009, 09:34 AM
He alienated Bronco Fans too. This isn't a suprise.

Aye, and from this thread, you can tell he's still successful at it; even from Chicago...

TailgateNut
06-01-2009, 09:36 AM
Aye, and from this thread, you can tell he's still successful at it; even from Chicago...


Your avatar is f-in creepy!:wiggle:

ScottXray
06-01-2009, 10:39 AM
Try the 30's and 40's.

90% of their fanbase doesn't know what it's like to have a franchise QB, so the tradition argument doesn't apply in this respect.

Hmmm. Keeping the tradition Alive....they STILL don't have a frachise QB.

TailgateNut
06-01-2009, 10:44 AM
Hmmm. Keeping the tradition Alive....they STILL don't have a frachise QB.



^5

azbroncfan
06-01-2009, 11:07 AM
I agree with your cynical take.

The inability of Bowen to find a competent manager for the franchise has led to mediocrity. Shanny was a good enough coach to polish his management-produced turds into a mediocre product. McD isnt shanny. Hopefully some magic serendipity will launch this thing into the stratosphere.

While you might not approve of McD's handling of the offseason you really have idea how it will turn out. You are just throwing sh&t at the wall and hopes it sticks. You will probably be rooting for Denver to suck so you can say I told you so with your typical overdramatic posts. Let's wait and see before we judge the moves.

kamakazi_kal
06-01-2009, 11:09 AM
While you might not approve of McD's handling of the offseason you really have idea how it will turn out. You are just throwing sh&t at the wall and hopes it sticks. You will probably be rooting for Denver to suck so you can say I told you so with your typical overdramatic posts. Let's wait and see before we judge the moves.

I'm all kinds of bitching about some of the moves made by denver this offseason but, once the season starts I'll be even more pissed if we start losing ....... I'm not a blind homer but, I'm still a homer.

DarkHorse30
06-01-2009, 11:30 AM
Well it is. But not for the reasons you think. Cutler and McDaniels weren't husband and wife. They were business associates. But Cutler acted as if he had just walked in on his wife pulling a train with his brothers and best man.

His behavior was completely inappropriate for a businessman making millions of dollars, unless: (1) He has the emotional maturity of a 13 year old boy; or (2) He wanted out for reasons completely extraneous to whatever McDaniels did or did not do. I lean toward the later explanation; although (1) is a possibility.

I'd lean towards (1).

Too bad Cutler bailed on his new coach, but that is no way to lead a team. If Bowlen had caved instead of trading him, Cutler would have had to proven himself as a winner. Given his performance in December last year, where is the evidence of his worth?

DenverBrit
06-01-2009, 11:34 AM
Cutler insisted on being traded, he got his wish.

That's all.

Mountain Bronco
06-01-2009, 01:04 PM
You know what makes me sick about these articles? The Chicago isn't Denver BS. Denver is one of the toughest markets to play QB in. We had the best QB ever and people will always remember that. Chicago is easier.

AHHHHHHH

Tombstone RJ
06-01-2009, 01:52 PM
You know what makes me sick about these articles? The Chicago isn't Denver BS. Denver is one of the toughest markets to play QB in. We had the best QB ever and people will always remember that. Chicago is easier.

AHHHHHHH

Yah, I don't like the whole "Denver isn't Chicago" undertone of the article. Like Cutler somehow has more to lose by alienating himself from Chicago fans than he does by alienating himself from Denver fans.

If the bears are winning, all will be forgiven. The same can be said for the Broncos. All fans tend to forgive bad behavior if their team is winning...

worm
06-01-2009, 02:15 PM
A Chicago perspective article....from a Chicago paper.

Who would have thought!

broncocalijohn
06-01-2009, 02:41 PM
I don't think we're going to start out 1-5. The first three games are pretty soft and people will probably get a false euphoria because we'll start out pretty well. It's the next 10 games that will bring weekly meltdowns.

kind of like our last season' start. If the fans of Chicago want to be warmed up by Cutler, just buy him another round when he is at the local tavern.

Sassy
06-01-2009, 03:35 PM
I don't know....it kinda sucks if you're a "celebrity" and can't even watch a game.

Bronx33
06-01-2009, 04:47 PM
Hesitated posting this, and then figured "why not?" Boring offseason doldrums, maybe this will spark some "fun"...


Cutler Alienating Bears Fans?
Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 31, 2009, 4:44 p.m. EDT

Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, the rocket-armed Pro Bowl passer acquired this offseason in a blockbuster trade from the Denver Broncos, apparently isnít making himself very popular with the local fan base.

According to David Haugh of the Chicago Tribune, Cutler is turning off some fans by refusing to sign autographs while attending Chicago Cubs baseball games.

ďI know Cutler already has alienated enough small pockets of fans at various appearances in Chicago to produce a flurry of furious e-mails, such as the one from a guy at Wrigley Field last week who criticized the quarterback for waving off autograph seekers,Ē Haugh writes. ďGenerally speaking, the same folks complaining about Cutlerís insouciant behavior will be cheering him on his first 350-yard Sunday. Sure, Cutler could do himself some favors by exuding more charm or suffering the occasional fool with a little less outward disdain.

ďBut those who have been Bears fans for two decades or two generations, need to remember Cutler has been here for two months. There will be and has been a degree of culture shock. Denver isnít Chicago. Eventually, Cutler will adjust because he will learn life is easier that way in this tradition-rich football city. If he doesnít, then he will get what he deserves. But itís too early in his tenure to predict that.Ē

As Haugh correctly pointed out, Cutler just got to town. Plus, football isnít a popularity contest.

Itís a game of skill and will.

Nonetheless, this piece of information does tend to reinforce the bad reputation that Cutler gained during his messy divorce from the Denver Broncos.

Besides working on throwing touchdown passes, Cutler might want to sign a few autographs.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/05/31/cutler-alienating-fans/


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-31-haugh-bears-marinellimay31,0,7346161.column


So denver was traditionless? and just to point something out ( people are people everywhere you go and deserve to be treated with some sort of respect so it see this writer is making excuses for cutlers insouciant behavior ( enjoy chicago ) hes all yours.

TonyR
06-01-2009, 06:10 PM
tonyR + Tsiguy X popps = haters.


You have mad math skills. Are you that guy from Good Will Hunting? Or perhaps the Iraqi kid from this thread? http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=80924

TonyR
06-01-2009, 06:12 PM
Cutler is who he is...tons of talent, childish attitude, good games and bad with indifference to anything but himself. History will repeat itself in Chicago.

Well put. It's always refreshing to see that there are some people out there who have a clue.

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 06:31 PM
So denver was traditionless? and just to point something out ( people are people everywhere you go and deserve to be treated with some sort of respect so it see this writer is making excuses for cutlers insouciant behavior ( enjoy chicago ) hes all yours.

What is lost is that Chicago picked up Tinoisamoa. They now have 3 LB's and depth with Hillenmeyer(sp). Their D just got a whole lot better.

Only one **** at a Cub game is bitching. I am guessing he won't be bitching when they dominate the NFC.

cutthemdown
06-01-2009, 06:39 PM
As the author of the article wrote--as soon as he passes for 300+ yards and 3TD's all will be forgiven........and as we enter into a QB controversy by our BYE week next season when we are 1-5 or 2-4--we will be wishing that we had a QB that warranted people seeking his autograph..........

What if instead he throws a couple picks and they lose. I mean early on anything can happen. What if it takes Cutler and the Bears a yr to get some WR up to speed and that slows Cutler down? If he struggles early will the fans be patient like they would with a rookie draft pick, or will they expect 300 yrds and wins to start the yr. I think they are through waiting and expect it all right away.

If things get off to a slow start for Cutler, with Chicago's abrasive media and fans, and Cutlers attitude i could see trouble.

For sure he plays great no one will care they will love him. But what if the Bears offense struggles a bit, or Cutler does? Will they still want to give him the big new contract? if they don't give the big ne3w contract will Cutler play or hold out?

IMO Cutler will wait until offseason then demand a new contract, but how well will that work if he doesn't hit at least 25 tds and 3500 yrds?.

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 06:45 PM
What if instead he throws a couple picks and they lose. I mean early on anything can happen. What if it takes Cutler and the Bears a yr to get some WR up to speed and that slows Cutler down? If he struggles early will the fans be patient like they would with a rookie draft pick, or will they expect 300 yrds and wins to start the yr. I think they are through waiting and expect it all right away.

If things get off to a slow start for Cutler, with Chicago's abrasive media and fans, and Cutlers attitude i could see trouble.

For sure he plays great no one will care they will love him. But what if the Bears offense struggles a bit, or Cutler does? Will they still want to give him the big new contract? if they don't give the big ne3w contract will Cutler play or hold out?

IMO Cutler will wait until offseason then demand a new contract, but how well will that work if he doesn't hit at least 25 tds and 3500 yrds?.

So far DA BEARS have had a great offseason.

Pickup a top 10 QB
Shored up Oline
picked up Tinoisamoa, now have a great front 7, on paper.
drafted a couple WR's.

I think the Tinoisamoa signing put them over the edge. Hillenmeyer lost his job last year, they needed a Strong side guy and got him. They needed a LT and picked up the best FA availble.

We got Orton, Best RB available in Draft. Did not address DLine...etc...

Popps
06-01-2009, 07:35 PM
So far DA BEARS have had a great offseason.

Pickup a top 10 QB
Shored up Oline
picked up Tinoisamoa, now have a great front 7, on paper.
drafted a couple WR's.

I think the Tinoisamoa signing put them over the edge. Hillenmeyer lost his job last year, they needed a Strong side guy and got him. They needed a LT and picked up the best FA availble.

We got Orton, Best RB available in Draft. Did not address DLine...etc...

You should start a Bears fan-site, dude. That was a really glowing review.

Didn't address the D-line? We drafted the best DE in the draft and brought in something like 5 experienced role-players. None of that counts?

What about the secondary? Dawkins? He doesn't count? A couple of solid vets back there won't help? What about shoring up special teams by bringing in young, talented DBs. That doesn't count? The best ball-hawking CB in the draft couldn't possibly help?

Adding quality depth to the RB position doesn't count, or you'd rather we called someone at the local cell phone store?

Br0nc0Buster
06-01-2009, 07:38 PM
What is lost is that Chicago picked up Tinoisamoa. They now have 3 LB's and depth with Hillenmeyer(sp). Their D just got a whole lot better.

Only one **** at a Cub game is b****ing. I am guessing he won't be b****ing when they dominate the NFC.

Im sure if you pay him enough Jay will let you give him a handjob

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 08:00 PM
You should start a Bears fan-site, dude. That was a really glowing review.

Didn't address the D-line? We drafted the best DE in the draft and brought in something like 5 experienced role-players. None of that counts?

What about the secondary? Dawkins? He doesn't count? A couple of solid vets back there won't help? What about shoring up special teams by bringing in young, talented DBs. That doesn't count? The best ball-hawking CB in the draft couldn't possibly help?

Adding quality depth to the RB position doesn't count, or you'd rather we called someone at the local cell phone store?

I don't know if we got the best DE in draft, maybe best RB. Most of those 5 role players were castoffs.

Dawkins was the best FA signing. He will help but still no real help on the Dline right now Ayers is = to Moss he could go boom or bust.

DA BEARS picked up known talent, Pace has health issues but is much better than Taint was.

I pointed out that we got the Best RB available. You just don't want to admint right now DA BEARS are closer to winning than we are.

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 08:01 PM
Im sure if you pay him enough Jay will let you give him a handjob

I bet if I paid you enough you would give me a handjob too, after I paid you to suck off Jay.

tsiguy96
06-01-2009, 08:04 PM
I don't know if we got the best DE in draft, maybe best RB. Most of those 5 role players were castoffs.

Dawkins was the best FA signing. He will help but still no real help on the Dline right now Ayers is = to Moss he could go boom or bust.

DA BEARS picked up known talent, Pace has health issues but is much better than Taint was.

I pointed out that we got the Best RB available. You just don't want to admint right now DA BEARS are closer to winning than we are.

questionable offense and aging defense, how does that = better than us, who got better at basically every single position (including assistant coaches) in a weaker division?

da bears now have a good QB who will throw more picks next year than he did this year.

telluride
06-01-2009, 08:14 PM
So far DA BEARS have had a great offseason.

Pickup a top 10 QB
Shored up Oline
picked up Tinoisamoa, now have a great front 7, on paper.
drafted a couple WR's.

I think the Tinoisamoa signing put them over the edge. Hillenmeyer lost his job last year, they needed a Strong side guy and got him. They needed a LT and picked up the best FA availble.

We got Orton, Best RB available in Draft. Did not address DLine...etc...

I'd wager that the Bears won't even win their division. Minnesota or Green Bay will. And Chicago and Denver will finish within a game or two of each other.

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 08:20 PM
questionable offense and aging defense, how does that = better than us, who got better at basically every single position (including assistant coaches) in a weaker division?

da bears now have a good QB who will throw more picks next year than he did this year.

The only position they have real concerns at is WR and Safety. They drafted depth at WR, I think they got a safety late in the draft, not 100% on that and too lazy to google just what I thought I saw on local news.

We got a ton of depth vets at CB, one stellar safety at the end of his career, a solid ILB and drafted a DE/LB that could go either way. I am not sure we got better at every position or even at ever coaching position, the greek is still working and our Oline was one of the best in the league last year.

I would argue that we degressed at QB, I still think Orton is perfect for this year or as long as we are in rebuild mode.

You guys are all over Cutlers everymove even though he moved on.

DA BEARS addressed all their needs, we addressed some of ours, the jury is out on both teams.

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 08:20 PM
I'd wager that the Bears won't even win their division. Minnesota or Green Bay will. And Chicago and Denver will finish within a game or two of each other.

Whats the wager?

Br0nc0Buster
06-01-2009, 08:21 PM
I bet if I paid you enough you would give me a handjob too, after I paid you to suck off Jay.

Im not the one blowing my load over the Bear's offseason acqusitions on a Broncos message board

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 08:30 PM
Im not the one blowing my load over the Bear's offseason acqusitions on a Broncos message board

The board is fixated on Cutler's every move. If you opened up the trib article the 1st thing is the signing of the rams LB, you have to dig to find the Cutler bs that 1, ONE, cub fan complained about.

One of the McStalin nut huggers, who think DA BEARS are going to tank, arguments is that they have an aging D that was only rated 16th last year.

The article announces that they signed the best availble SAM in FA. They are loaded in the front 7, Hillermeyer(sp) played himself out of the starting SAM job last year and the dude that took his job sucked ass.

I am guessing, barring injury, that this move gets them back into the single digits. Cutler will have a real D for once in his career, not one ranked 30th.

Lovie coached this guy in St Louis and he is a protypical cover 2 build.

But everyone wants to hear about Cutler turning people away from signing Auto's while at a Cub game.

TheReverend
06-01-2009, 08:49 PM
The board is fixated on Cutler's every move. If you opened up the trib article the 1st thing is the signing of the rams LB, you have to dig to find the Cutler bs that 1, ONE, cub fan complained about.

One of the McStalin nut huggers, who think DA BEARS are going to tank, arguments is that they have an aging D that was only rated 16th last year.

The article announces that they signed the best availble SAM in FA. They are loaded in the front 7, Hillermeyer(sp) played himself out of the starting SAM job last year and the dude that took his job sucked ass.

I am guessing, barring injury, that this move gets them back into the single digits. Cutler will have a real D for once in his career, not one ranked 30th.

Lovie coached this guy in St Louis and he is a protypical cover 2 build.

But everyone wants to hear about Cutler turning people away from signing Auto's while at a Cub game.

Wait... what...?

Did Hillenmeyer really get benched last year?

broncosteven
06-01-2009, 08:51 PM
Wait... what...?

Did Hillenmeyer really get benched last year?

yep

TheReverend
06-01-2009, 08:51 PM
Holy ****... thanks broncosteven. I had no idea he got benched. They played it off as because of his surgery but he's even quoted as saying he didn't think the thumb injury had anything to do with the demotion.

telluride
06-01-2009, 09:18 PM
Whats the wager?

Name it. We'll both finish around 9-7 or so.

~Crash~
06-01-2009, 09:30 PM
Your avatar is f-in creepy!:wiggle:

thats nothing you are creepy...

~Crash~
06-01-2009, 09:37 PM
People also act like Cutler in not team first player that is horse **** but keep up the jaded BS you wear it well .

I still say not one word about Cutler floors me with Shanahan not saying a thing . He must of been Really burned out.

cutthemdown
06-01-2009, 09:51 PM
People also act like Cutler in not team first player that is horse **** but keep up the jaded BS you wear it well .

I still say not one word about Cutler floors me with Shanahan not saying a thing . He must of been Really burned out.

Well he sort of walked out on all his teammates. Sure Mcdaniels gave him a reason to be pissed, I will give Cutler that. After that though he decided he was so injured, he would run out on all his buddies, his oline who blocked their asses off, WR who laid out for him, his buddy Sheff, all of them.

What does that say about Cutler? To me it means his own feelings a lot more important then that of his teammates.

DarkHorse30
06-02-2009, 12:02 AM
People also act like Cutler in not team first player that is horse **** but keep up the jaded BS you wear it well .

I still say not one word about Cutler floors me with Shanahan not saying a thing . He must of been Really burned out.

IF Cutler was team first, why did he throw his team under the bus?

McDaniels critics know nothing about what he can do as a HC, because he hasn't been one yet. OTOH, as an OC, he has had quite a bit of success.......just like another OC that turned into a HC (coincidentally in Denver); Mike Shanahan.

The tragedy in Denver this offseason is for the Elway freaks that think they found another one in Cutler. Unfortunately for them, Cutler's talent has not won enough games to justify the risk in keeping him.

If Jay had proven anything in his 3 years in Denver, Bowlen would have likely overlooked his idiotic comments this offseason, and kept him on. But when you fire a guy like Shanahan, and hire a replacement like McDaniels, you want your starting "franchise" QB to be supportive......

....maybe even excited about learning a new offense from a guy that has a few rings on his fingers, and successfully taught his offense to an unproven QB like Cassell, in pretty short order.

Too bad for Jay that he didn't care enough about his teammates, or his team, (or himself for that matter) to belly up and work his ass off to learn something that may have made him a better QB. Instead, he whined his way right off the team.

Well.....good luck and good riddance

worm
06-02-2009, 12:40 AM
But when you fire a guy like Shanahan, and hire a replacement like McDaniels, you want your starting "franchise" QB to be supportive......

....maybe even excited about learning a new offense from a guy that has a few rings on his fingers, and successfully taught his offense to an unproven QB like Cassell, in pretty short order.

Too bad for Jay that he didn't care enough about his teammates, or his team, (or himself for that matter) to belly up and work his ass off to learn something that may have made him a better QB. Instead, he whined his way right off the team.

Well.....good luck and good riddance

Such revisionist history!

He WAS excited about playing in McD's system after initial talks with him. He WAS in Denver busting his ass learning the new system on his own time.

His biggest fault is being too pig-headed to let bygones be bygones. He was onboard with the changes and working hard...then got butt-hurt due to a rookie coach and nothing was going to change his mind after that point.

Being okay, even glad, he is gone is one thing. Altering the facts to suit your own perspective is something else entirely.

tsiguy96
06-02-2009, 12:46 AM
Such revisionist history!

He WAS excited about playing in McD's system after initial talks with him. He WAS in Denver busting his ass learning the new system on his own time.

His biggest fault is being too pig-headed to let bygones be bygones. He was onboard with the changes and working hard...then got butt-hurt due to a rookie coach and nothing was going to change his mind after that point.

Being okay, even glad, he is gone is one thing. Altering the facts to suit your own perspective is something else entirely.

second. he talked alot about how he was excited, but then his feelings got so hurt that everything he know with the coaches was gone, including his bf bates. after cutler decided he didnt want to be here, he did everything he could to get out of town with no regard to the fans who supported him or the team who played their asses off for him.

Gort
06-02-2009, 06:05 AM
Such revisionist history!

FACT: he asked to be traded before McD was even hired.
FACT: he refused to return phone calls and text messages from the OWNER of the team.
FACT: he demanded to be traded after telling the media that he still wanted to be a Bronco.
FACT: he was at Vandy smiling and joking and high fiving everyone in sight when he found out he'd been traded to the Bears.

Cutler did not want to stay in Denver unless he got a new contract. he'd already received most of the money on his original front-loaded contract and was looking to swap the lesser paid remaining years with a new HUGE contract.

greed. selfishness. petulance. immaturity. duplicity. arrogance. stubborness.

those adjectives describe Cutler. most also describe Jeff George when he was in the NFL.

good riddance. and good riddance to anyone who was only a Broncos fan because of him. this franchise has a rich history of football players who were proud to wear the jersey. Cutler wasn't one of them in my judgement.

Florida_Bronco
06-02-2009, 08:24 AM
FACT: he asked to be traded before McD was even hired. While I think that is the case, it's certainly not "fact" just for the record.

vancejohnson82
06-02-2009, 08:35 AM
Oh no....

Cutler vs. McDaniels is back on....

We need more shaving tips to counteract this.

kamakazi_kal
06-02-2009, 09:02 AM
Well put. It's always refreshing to see that there are some people out there who agree with me.

There ya go champ ..... all fixed for reality.

kamakazi_kal
06-02-2009, 09:07 AM
What if instead he throws a couple picks and they lose. I mean early on anything can happen. What if it takes Cutler and the Bears a yr to get some WR up to speed and that slows Cutler down? If he struggles early will the fans be patient like they would with a rookie draft pick, or will they expect 300 yrds and wins to start the yr. I think they are through waiting and expect it all right away.

If things get off to a slow start for Cutler, with Chicago's abrasive media and fans, and Cutlers attitude i could see trouble.

For sure he plays great no one will care they will love him. But what if the Bears offense struggles a bit, or Cutler does? Will they still want to give him the big new contract? if they don't give the big ne3w contract will Cutler play or hold out?

IMO Cutler will wait until offseason then demand a new contract, but how well will that work if he doesn't hit at least 25 tds and 3500 yrds?.

with that type of money/draft picks involved in the tradem, he'll get as much time as Mcd to make good on his game......

If he starts slow excuses will be made just like it will if mcd starts slow here.

kamakazi_kal
06-02-2009, 09:17 AM
You should start a Bears fan-site, dude. That was a really glowing review.

Didn't address the D-line? We drafted the best DE in the draft and brought in something like 5 experienced role-players. None of that counts?

What about the secondary? Dawkins? He doesn't count? A couple of solid vets back there won't help? What about shoring up special teams by bringing in young, talented DBs. That doesn't count? The best ball-hawking CB in the draft couldn't possibly help?

Adding quality depth to the RB position doesn't count, or you'd rather we called someone at the local cell phone store?

your such a douch........ it's not unfanlike to question the moves your team makes .... Just so you know, you don't have to buy into every move a franchise makes.... You don't have to hate on everyone who dislikes a move made the front office (listening tonyr?)

I'll admit I don't like just about everything that has happened this offseason. I'm buying into this as a rebuilding year for the Denver Broncos ..... For as much as I don't like Mcd ..... He has made some good moves. Dawkins and some of the D moves have been awesome .... though I don't think you sell a team as "win now" to vets with a good year or 2 left.

what I think he's making reference to is the lack of a true NT ..... Jarvis Moss was a highly ranked player coming into the draft and I don't think he fixed the line? did he? or was that just a Shanny mistake that can be written off and is fixed now cause mcd is at the helm?

summerdenver
06-02-2009, 09:20 AM
FACT: he asked to be traded before McD was even hired.
FACT: he refused to return phone calls and text messages from the OWNER of the team.
FACT: he demanded to be traded after telling the media that he still wanted to be a Bronco.
FACT: he was at Vandy smiling and joking and high fiving everyone in sight when he found out he'd been traded to the Bears.
.


What a monster!!!! Get rid of him NOW.

tsiguy96
06-02-2009, 09:34 AM
your such a douch........ it's not unfanlike to question the moves your team makes .... Just so you know, you don't have to buy into every move a franchise makes.... You don't have to hate on everyone who dislikes a move made the front office (listening tonyr?)

I'll admit I don't like just about everything that has happened this offseason. I'm buying into this as a rebuilding year for the Denver Broncos ..... For as much as I don't like Mcd ..... He has made some good moves. Dawkins and some of the D moves have been awesome .... though I don't think you sell a team as "win now" to vets with a good year or 2 left.

what I think he's making reference to is the lack of a true NT ..... Jarvis Moss was a highly ranked player coming into the draft and I don't think he fixed the line? did he? or was that just a Shanny mistake that can be written off and is fixed now cause mcd is at the helm?

new scheme, better DC, new dline coaches, new positions for all the players who previously didnt fit great into a 4-3.

TheReverend
06-02-2009, 09:45 AM
Well he sort of walked out on all his teammates. Sure Mcdaniels gave him a reason to be pissed, I will give Cutler that. After that though he decided he was so injured, he would run out on all his buddies, his oline who blocked their asses off, WR who laid out for him, his buddy Sheff, all of them.

What does that say about Cutler? To me it means his own feelings a lot more important then that of his teammates.

You don't think this is a mild over-reaction that he wasn't lifting weights with them...? He didn't have the opportunity to even miss a mini-camp, so I have to say this argument does not apply.

kamakazi_kal
06-02-2009, 10:05 AM
new scheme, better DC, new dline coaches, new positions for all the players who previously didnt fit great into a 4-3.

wait. so just switching to a 3-4 fixes it all? allot of the players your refering to don't exactly just "fit" into the positions your placing them in.

TonyR
06-02-2009, 10:47 AM
There ya go champ ..... all fixed for reality.

No math equations this time? Have you already moved on to a new hobby?

lex
06-02-2009, 11:29 AM
I emailed him about connecting tradition to fanbase and questioned his notion of tradition considering most of the people who currently watch the NFL remember the last 35 years (where Denver has 6 SB appearances and the Bears have 2).

Here is his response:

"Bears fans are more in your face, desperate to be loved, clingy and relentless....that's what I meant.
Thanks.
DH"


...how he feels he is certain about this, Im not sure but there you have it.

broncofan7
06-02-2009, 11:51 AM
I emailed him about connecting tradition to fanbase and questioned his notion of tradition considering most of the people who currently watch the NFL remember the last 35 years (where Denver has 6 SB appearances and the Bears have 2).

Here is his response:

"Bears fans are more in your face, desperate to be loved, clingy and relentless....that's what I meant.
Thanks.
DH"


...how he feels he is certain about this, Im not sure but there you have it.

How myopic his vision is...........

DarkHorse30
06-02-2009, 11:54 AM
You don't think this is a mild over-reaction that he wasn't lifting weights with them...? He didn't have the opportunity to even miss a mini-camp, so I have to say this argument does not apply.

Whiff.

Popps
06-02-2009, 05:22 PM
FACT: he asked to be traded before McD was even hired.
FACT: he refused to return phone calls and text messages from the OWNER of the team.
FACT: he demanded to be traded after telling the media that he still wanted to be a Bronco.
FACT: he was at Vandy smiling and joking and high fiving everyone in sight when he found out he'd been traded to the Bears.

Cutler did not want to stay in Denver unless he got a new contract. he'd already received most of the money on his original front-loaded contract and was looking to swap the lesser paid remaining years with a new HUGE contract.

greed. selfishness. petulance. immaturity. duplicity. arrogance. stubborness.

those adjectives describe Cutler. most also describe Jeff George when he was in the NFL.

good riddance. and good riddance to anyone who was only a Broncos fan because of him. this franchise has a rich history of football players who were proud to wear the jersey. Cutler wasn't one of them in my judgement.

Lock it up.

broncosteven
06-03-2009, 07:19 PM
Name it. We'll both finish around 9-7 or so.

Do you have PM's off?

I like your offer, Just want to clarify the deal before I commit.

PM me.