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footstepsfrom#27
05-30-2009, 07:39 AM
This is the dude you'd wanta copy off of in Calculus class...betcha he's popular at parties too. ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090528/od_afp/swedeneducationoffbeatiraq_20090528124335

Iraq-born teen cracks maths puzzle

STOCKHOLM (AFP) A 16-year-old Iraqi immigrant living in Sweden has cracked a maths puzzle that has stumped experts for more than 300 years, Swedish media reported on Thursday.

In just four months, Mohamed Altoumaimi has found a formula to explain and simplify the so-called Bernoulli numbers, a sequence of calculations named after the 17th century Swiss mathematician Jacob Bernoulli, the Dagens Nyheter daily said.

Altoumaimi, who came to Sweden six years ago, said teachers at his high school in Falun, central Sweden were not convinced about his work at first.

"When I first showed it to my teachers, none of them thought the formula I had written down really worked," Altoumaimi told the Falu Kuriren newspaper.

He then got in touch with professors at Uppsala University, one of Sweden's top institutions, to ask them to check his work.

After going through his notebooks, the professors found his work was indeed correct and offered him a place in Uppsala.

But for now, Altoumaimi is focusing on his school studies and plans to take summer classes in advanced mathematics and physics this year.

"I wanted to be a researcher in physics or mathematics; I really like those subjects. But I have to improve in English and social sciences," he told the Falu Kuriren.

Dukes
05-30-2009, 07:57 AM
Give him a student visa to MIT

tsiguy96
05-30-2009, 08:06 AM
youre report is kinda false.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090528/od_afp/swedeneducationoffbeatreply_20090528174259

footstepsfrom#27
05-30-2009, 08:13 AM
youre report is kinda false.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090528/od_afp/swedeneducationoffbeatreply_20090528174259
Maybe...it doesn't say he didn't solve it, just that others have done so in the past.

In either case...still pretty funky.

TheReverend
05-30-2009, 08:38 AM
In fairness, it was a culturally and racially skewed math problem in his favor. If anyone's curious, it was:

"How many suicide bombers does it take to blow up every Jew in an Israeli disco?"

SureShot
05-30-2009, 09:21 AM
In fairness, it was a culturally and racially skewed math problem in his favor. If anyone's curious, it was:

"How many suicide bombers does it take to blow up every Jew in an Israeli disco?"

8?

SouthStndJunkie
05-30-2009, 11:31 AM
Hummus for everyone!

Cito Pelon
05-30-2009, 11:40 AM
This is the dude you'd wanta copy off of in Calculus class...betcha he's popular at parties too. ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090528/od_afp/swedeneducationoffbeatiraq_20090528124335

Iraq-born teen cracks maths puzzle

STOCKHOLM (AFP) A 16-year-old Iraqi immigrant living in Sweden has cracked a maths puzzle that has stumped experts for more than 300 years, Swedish media reported on Thursday.

In just four months, Mohamed Altoumaimi has found a formula to explain and simplify the so-called Bernoulli numbers, a sequence of calculations named after the 17th century Swiss mathematician Jacob Bernoulli, the Dagens Nyheter daily said.

Altoumaimi, who came to Sweden six years ago, said teachers at his high school in Falun, central Sweden were not convinced about his work at first.

"When I first showed it to my teachers, none of them thought the formula I had written down really worked," Altoumaimi told the Falu Kuriren newspaper.

He then got in touch with professors at Uppsala University, one of Sweden's top institutions, to ask them to check his work.

After going through his notebooks, the professors found his work was indeed correct and offered him a place in Uppsala.

But for now, Altoumaimi is focusing on his school studies and plans to take summer classes in advanced mathematics and physics this year.

"I wanted to be a researcher in physics or mathematics; I really like those subjects. But I have to improve in English and social sciences," he told the Falu Kuriren.

Taliban gonna be looking to kill him real fast.

Dukes
05-30-2009, 12:23 PM
In fairness, it was a culturally and racially skewed math problem in his favor. If anyone's curious, it was:

"How many suicide bombers does it take to blow up every Jew in an Israeli disco?"

If so, why did the Japanese kid down the street finish the question faster? :yayaya:

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 01:32 PM
Give him a student visa to MIT

screw that. we don't need anymore american taught Iraqis who are going to go on to become terrorists. keep his ass overseas

TonyR
05-30-2009, 02:12 PM
screw that. we don't need anymore american taught Iraqis who are going to go on to become terrorists. keep his ass overseas

Wow, that's not even a little bit racist...

UberBroncoMan
05-30-2009, 02:35 PM
screw that. we don't need anymore american taught Iraqis who are going to go on to become terrorists. keep his ass overseas

In all honesty... if we keep an American presence in Iraq and are capable of turning the tide of thought to a much more pro-American view such as in Japan and South Korea I think we'll enjoy smart people coming out of Iraq. The problem in the middle east has been extreme religious (Islamic) insanity. Without that the entire region and even the world would be a better place. It's nice if you want to practice a faith but forcing everyone to do it from birth and making it the central focus in everyone's life to the point of advocating violence is much of the reason why we call the Dark Age (which was Christianity in Europe)... the DARK Age. The kid in the article sounds like he's got a good track in life and best of luck to him.

Anaximines
05-30-2009, 02:36 PM
... how many more like him have died in needless wars

UberBroncoMan
05-30-2009, 02:56 PM
... how many more like him have died in needless wars

... and how many more like him have been suppressed, not given a proper education and taught that women are not even close to equal, due to insane regimes... essentially how many potentially amazing individuals have been corrupted due to the leadership around them and forced into a life of poverty? War is a part of life and while the WMD readon for Iraq was a bit silly (granted they would eventually go for them), it's going to do a tremendous amount for the people in that nation assuming their elected leadership takes a step forward rather than backwards. You're from Berkley though so your stance is expected. People are stupid and people rarely RARELY change. The only power for change true change in this world is "brainwashing" through either violence, education or the use of media.

Anaximines
05-30-2009, 03:14 PM
... and how many more like him have been suppressed, not given a proper education and taught that women are not even close to equal, due to insane regimes... essentially how many potentially amazing individuals have been corrupted due to the leadership around them and forced into a life of poverty? War is a part of life and while the WMD readon for Iraq was a bit silly (granted they would eventually go for them), it's going to do a tremendous amount for the people in that nation assuming their elected leadership takes a step forward rather than backwards. You're from Berkley though so your stance is expected. People are stupid and people rarely RARELY change. The only power for change true change in this world is "brainwashing" through either violence, education or the use of media.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, first of all I wasn't necessarily saying that the current war is needless (I meant it just as much in reference to 9/11), I certainly agree with you on the human-rights benefits to westernizing Iraq. But the article says that this kid moved away from Iraq 6 years ago, meaning that he spent his (formative) first 10 years in Iraq, and he doesn't seem to be too bad off for it (of course that's not saying that the oppressive culture there didn't hurt his intellectual development).

Yes, I'm from Berkeley but I have only been here for 10 months and I spent the first 24 years of my life in conservative Oklahoma voting for Bush :)

Things aren't always what they seem.

Anaximines
05-30-2009, 03:19 PM
I definitely agree that war can be for the greater good in the long term, it's just a tough pill to swallow

Al Wilson
05-30-2009, 04:42 PM
screw that. we don't need anymore american taught Iraqis who are going to go on to become terrorists. keep his ass overseas
STFU you piece of SH1T

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 04:46 PM
In all honesty... if we keep an American presence in Iraq and are capable of turning the tide of thought to a much more pro-American view such as in Japan and South Korea I think we'll enjoy smart people coming out of Iraq. The problem in the middle east has been extreme religious (Islamic) insanity. Without that the entire region and even the world would be a better place. It's nice if you want to practice a faith but forcing everyone to do it from birth and making it the central focus in everyone's life to the point of advocating violence is much of the reason why we call the Dark Age (which was Christianity in Europe)... the DARK Age. The kid in the article sounds like he's got a good track in life and best of luck to him.

it doesn't matter how long americans remain in that area of the world. those people hate us and will always hate us. the minute this war ends and the troops come home, that place is going to return to the war torn piece of **** it has always been.

and with that kid, he seems good now. but a majority of the higher ups in those terrorist groups are guys who 20-30 years ago were good kids went to american schools and then years later became fanatics who hate america.

i know it sounds like a dickhead way to think, but i would much rather not do anything for anyone in that area of the world, rather than educate or help them and regret it in a few years.

footstepsfrom#27
05-30-2009, 04:46 PM
Cripes. I should have known even a human interest story about a kid prodigy would provoke a new round of poltics and race fighting. Cue the A-hole spouting jokes about Jews burning alive in ovens now.

Spider
05-30-2009, 04:48 PM
Cripes. I should have known even a human interest story about a kid prodigy would provoke a new round of poltics and race fighting. Cue the A-hole spouting jokes about Jews burning alive in ovens now.

how many Iraqis does it take to ...............................;D

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 04:49 PM
Wow, that's not even a little bit racist...

i don't care how it sounds. and if my not wanting to help any of those people because of the majority of them being anti-america, is a problem i don't care.

the majority of people there hate us and always will. why should i feel bad for not wanting to pay to educate or help those people, when if they had the chance they would kill myself or anyone here without ever thinking twice.

watermock
05-30-2009, 04:50 PM
It's a PR move cut short by the institution.

As well it should be.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 04:54 PM
... how many more like him have died in needless wars

how many of our american troops need to die in needless wars?

in the big picture, i don't really care about any of these people in any other country, especially when it is between the life of an american soldier or the life of any person from any country regardless of them being innocent or not.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 04:56 PM
STFU you piece of SH1T

**** you fag! got a problem with what i have to say, ignore it.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 04:57 PM
how many Iraqis does it take to ...............................;D

leave it to Spider to put a funny spin on things

Al Wilson
05-30-2009, 05:20 PM
**** you fag! got a problem with what i have to say, ignore it.
Ignore it? You're funny. You're being a douchebag saying some ****ed up **** on a forum. If you're a man go outside and try to be a dick, you f@ggot.

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:22 PM
Ok ladies , lets settle down and settle this like Men .....water pistols

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:24 PM
Ok if water pistols wont do it .......... A game of hopscotch with blockers and tacklers ;D

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:36 PM
Ok if water pistols wont do it .......... A game of hopscotch with blockers and tacklers ;D

**** that let's paintball. :yayaya:

lazarus4444
05-30-2009, 05:37 PM
broncoman4ever is right...our "allies" saudi arabia just beheaded a guy and crucified him in riyadh. i mean, c'mon, lets move past the middle ages but islam cannot and that will lead to continuing conflict.

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:37 PM
**** that let's paintball. :yayaya:

i dont think Painting will help ;D

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:39 PM
Ignore it? You're funny. You're being a douchebag saying some ****ed up **** on a forum. If you're a man go outside and try to be a dick, you f@ggot.

wow! an internet tough guy who takes offense to another members personal beliefs. that's what i love about america. i can say what i want and you can't do a damn thing about it, no matter how much you disagree. If you have a problem with that, move to Iraq where you can live in a censored world.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m39/bluenazareth/InternetToughGuy.jpg

elsid13
05-30-2009, 05:39 PM
i dont think Painting will help ;D

A nice watercolor paint off might be the solution.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:44 PM
i dont think Painting will help ;D

damn, and i thought i could get my shed painted.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:46 PM
A nice watercolor paint off might be the solution.

can i just use the paint program on my computer?

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:49 PM
wow! an internet tough guy who takes offense to another members personal beliefs. that's what i love about america. i can say what i want and you can't do a damn thing about it, no matter how much you disagree. If you have a problem with that, move to Iraq where you can live in a censored world.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m39/bluenazareth/InternetToughGuy.jpg

I really wish you clowns would posting that picture of me ......

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:50 PM
A nice watercolor paint off might be the solution.

;D that would be therapeutic and no blood shed ......I dont want to see them get cured , I want to see a damn good fight

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:50 PM
I really wish you clowns would posting that picture of me ......

Sorry Spider. i forgot that that picture was a touchy subject for you.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:52 PM
;D that would be therapeutic and no blood shed ......I dont want to see them get cured , I want to see a damn good fight

when can we arrange this bout. i need about 2 weeks until i can put any pressure on my right leg. i recently broke my big toe and tore ligaments in my ankle.
can i use your patented throat punch?

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:52 PM
Sorry Spider. i forgot that that picture was a touchy subject for you.

ok you are forgiven this time ;D

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:53 PM
when we arrange this bout. i need about 2 weeks until i can put any pressure on my right leg. i recently broke my big toe and tore ligaments in my ankle.

meh rub some dirt on it and try not to kick him ;D

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 05:57 PM
meh rub some dirt on it and try not to kick him ;D

i would but that is my load bearing leg. my punch wouldn't come out with near enough velocity without it.

Spider
05-30-2009, 05:58 PM
i would but that is my load bearing leg. my punch wouldn't come out with near enough velocity without it.

get a big stick ........

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 06:07 PM
get a big stick ........

i just got a thought of the Family Guy episode where Peter Griffin is rebuilt as the 6 million dollar man and the scientist doesn't want to spend too much

Al Wilson
05-30-2009, 10:23 PM
wow! an internet tough guy who takes offense to another members personal beliefs. that's what i love about america. i can say what i want and you can't do a damn thing about it, no matter how much you disagree. If you have a problem with that, move to Iraq where you can live in a censored world.
See, that is you, moron (internet tough guy). I just told you, dumbass, that if you are man enough to say that racist ****, then go out in the real world and say it. Not all members on this forum are American. Some are arab that love the Broncos, which have lived their life in the U.S. or outside the U.S. . Just don't be a dick. And if you can say what you want, then go outside and express those 'personal beliefs' of yours if you got balls.

BroncoMan4ever
05-30-2009, 10:44 PM
See, that is you, moron (internet tough guy). I just told you, dumbass, that if you are man enough to say that racist ****, then go out in the real world and say it. Not all members on this forum are American. Some are arab that love the Broncos, which have lived their life in the U.S. or outside the U.S. . Just don't be a dick. And if you can say what you want, then go outside and express those 'personal beliefs' of yours if you got balls.

i give my own personal views on any divisive subject to anyone, when it is the topic of conversation as it is here. also, as a college educated individual, i have had many incidents where my personal beliefs do not mesh with those of everyone else. i have no fear in telling anyone what i believe, and neither should you. and since this is america, and i believe in the right to free speech; I have the right to tell you to **** off, and say what i want about anything that i believe. and once again, if you don't like it, ignore it or go somewhere else like Iraq, where you can live a censored life.

Anaximines
05-30-2009, 11:55 PM
in the big picture, i don't really care about any of these people in any other country, especially when it is between the life of an american soldier or the life of any person from any country regardless of them being innocent or not.

Life is precious, it shouldn't be wasted, I agree

cutthemdown
05-30-2009, 11:56 PM
BORRRRRRRRING. Great whats next an arab version of goodwill hunting? Cool then we can have 2 over rated movies about a snarky math genius.

Al Wilson
05-31-2009, 12:07 AM
i give my own personal views on any divisive subject to anyone, when it is the topic of conversation as it is here. also, as a college educated individual, i have had many incidents where my personal beliefs do not mesh with those of everyone else. i have no fear in telling anyone what i believe, and neither should you. and since this is america, and i believe in the right to free speech; I have the right to tell you to **** off, and say what i want about anything that i believe. and once again, if you don't like it, ignore it or go somewhere else like Iraq, where you can live a censored life.
And I have the right to tell you to go **** yourself genius cuz I ain't going no where.

Anaximines
05-31-2009, 12:16 AM
we shouldn't have let this kid's accomplishment degrade into a political debate!

BroncoMan4ever
05-31-2009, 12:25 AM
And I have the right to tell you to go **** yourself genius cuz I ain't going no where.

there you go. now you're getting it. opinions are just like assholes, everyone has one, and everyone thinks everyone elses stinks.

i am not saying come to my way of viewing the world the way Middle Eastern nations do to their people, i am simply stating what i believe. You can agree with it, or not. I really don't care. Great thing about America is, we don't have to agree on anything we don't want to, and we can state our own beliefs without punishment.

dsmoot
05-31-2009, 05:24 AM
See, that is you, moron (internet tough guy). I just told you, dumbass, that if you are man enough to say that racist ****, then go out in the real world and say it. Not all members on this forum are American. Some are arab that love the Broncos, which have lived their life in the U.S. or outside the U.S. . Just don't be a dick. And if you can say what you want, then go outside and express those 'personal beliefs' of yours if you got balls.

Why the language??? Can't you intelligently disagree without it. It lowers adult communication to a high school level. I personally agree with you, just pick a better way of saying it.