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Flex Gunmetal
05-21-2009, 10:15 AM
These are always fun threads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HSu_RnIwqU
The result is surprising to say the least.

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 10:24 AM
Can't wait to hear Fla's comment. Ought to be a good one.

OBF1
05-21-2009, 10:31 AM
That a-hole hit a cop that threw down the spike strip... They should have shot him.

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 10:33 AM
Slippery slope, my friend. Slippery slope!

bronco militia
05-21-2009, 10:40 AM
I think we all understand why the suspect was beaten.

but the Cops deserved to be fired.

Garcia Bronco
05-21-2009, 10:42 AM
Yep. It's a win-win. The criminal got what he deserved and so did the cops.

Flex Gunmetal
05-21-2009, 10:43 AM
Yep. It's a win-win. The criminal got what he deserved and so did the cops.

Indeed!

dbfan21
05-21-2009, 10:43 AM
I think we all understand why the suspect was beaten.
but the Cops deserved to be fired.

I heard it had something to do with the guy allowing his toddler to watch Ghostbusters. What a deadbeat! :P

Florida_Bronco
05-21-2009, 10:47 AM
Can't wait to hear Fla's comment. Ought to be a good one.

Well, since you asked...I support this decision. They were out of line.

Flex Gunmetal
05-21-2009, 10:49 AM
FB you're being far too rational recently. It's wierding me out.

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 10:52 AM
FB you're being far too rational recently. It's wierding me out.


No doubt, he just threw another damn "curve-ball".

Florida_Bronco
05-21-2009, 10:52 AM
FB you're being far too rational recently. It's wierding me out.

I'm always rational. ;D

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 10:53 AM
I'm always rational. ;D


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Garcia Bronco
05-21-2009, 10:53 AM
When you look at the video that guy could have killed several people.

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 10:57 AM
When you look at the video that guy could have killed several people.


...and this turns ordinary cops into the judge, jury and executioner?

OBF1
05-21-2009, 11:04 AM
...and this turns ordinary cops into the judge, jury and executioner?

TGN, I have seen you at a faider game in action.... If you were a cop and a guy tried to run you or a family member over you would have done far worse, Now get the hell off of your soapbox ^5

Flex Gunmetal
05-21-2009, 11:05 AM
TGN, I have seen you at a faider game in action.... If you were a cop and a guy tried to run you or a family member over you would have done far worse, Now get the hell off of your soapbox ^5

If I were a cop I would try to keep my emotions in check on the job :D

broncofan7
05-21-2009, 11:06 AM
They deserved to be fired. Their actions were sickening.

bronco militia
05-21-2009, 11:18 AM
I heard it had something to do with the guy allowing his toddler to watch Ghostbusters. What a deadbeat! :P

LOL

Garcia Bronco
05-21-2009, 11:29 AM
...and this turns ordinary cops into the judge, jury and executioner?


That Officer could be someone's father and husband and someone's son. The criminal could have killed any number of other motorists. Our law enforcment is put in what heck of a position everyday. I think everybody involved got what they deserved, but I blame the criminal most of all.

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 11:31 AM
TGN, I have seen you at a faider game in action.... If you were a cop and a guy tried to run you or a family member over you would have done far worse, Now get the hell off of your soapbox ^5

But I'm not a public servant, who has certain rules governing his position and behavior.

Garcia Bronco
05-21-2009, 11:35 AM
But I'm not a public servant, who has certain rules governing his position and behavior.

Bull****. You better get them roads paved.

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 11:36 AM
That Officer could be someone's father and husband and someone's son. The criminal could have killed any number of other motorists. Our law enforcment is put in what heck of a position everyday. I think everybody involved got what they deserved, but I blame the criminal most of all.

So, according to you, we should allow those who are charged with upholding the law to decide for themselves when they can break the law.

**** that. If we are headed in that direction, I'm going to start carrying a loaded pistol.

ak1971
05-21-2009, 11:37 AM
TGN, I have seen you at a faider game in action.... If you were a cop and a guy tried to run you or a family member over you would have done far worse, Now get the hell off of your soapbox ^5

He would have stabbed him repeatedly with a crab leg

Flex Gunmetal
05-21-2009, 11:38 AM
So, according to you, we should allow those who are charged with upholding the law to decide for themselves when they can break the law.

**** that. If we are headed in that direction, I'm going to start carrying a loaded pistol.

+1

~Crash~
05-21-2009, 11:39 AM
So, according to you, we should allow those who are charged with upholding the law to decide for themselves when they can break the law.

**** that. If we are headed in that direction, I'm going to start carrying a loaded pistol.


You won me over first time for everthing ....putz

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 11:41 AM
Bull****. You better get them roads paved.

I don't pave roads. I have subs which do that, if and when we have a project involving asphalt or concrete paving.

BTW: while on the subject of roads (bridges), I heard a blip regarding an investigation of missed inpections of internal bridge components by those charged with inspecting Colorado's bridges. I did miss the newscast that evening. Do you know WTF that was about?

want2bAbronco2
05-21-2009, 11:46 AM
Officers were way out of line! Should have just shot the guy. Why waste all the extra effort.

Guy got what he deserved. He hit a cop, and put the lives of everyone on the road in danger. What if he would have hit a teenager walking across the street etc...

TailgateNut
05-21-2009, 12:06 PM
Officers were way out of line! Should have just shot the guy. Why waste all the extra effort.

Guy got what he deserved. He hit a cop, and put the lives of everyone on the road in danger. What if he would have hit a teenager walking across the street etc...

Then you put him on trial. We are supposed to be a nation of laws. If we are going to venture into lawlessness, then all of us should do so, not just those who are charged with representing the Laws.

OBF1
05-21-2009, 12:12 PM
He would have stabbed him repeatedly with a crab leg

winner :thumbs:

azbroncfan
05-21-2009, 12:31 PM
Now the cops were completely out of line but still if your a white caucasion male cop you have to think twice about getting involved in an altercation with an african american. It's just too bad that this country will never get rid of the tried, trued and tired race card.

Cito Pelon
05-21-2009, 12:38 PM
Well, since you asked...I support this decision. They were out of line.

Yup, there's some bad cops out there. Real sadistic guys. I've run into them, but mostly cops are just badasses that enforce the laws. And that's what you want, a bunch of badass guys that enforce the laws and keep their cool. Now, once the perp gets to jail if he proceeds to be an ass hole, that's where he should get the crap kicked out of him.

cutthemdown
05-21-2009, 12:59 PM
I can understand why they beat him extra, dude was trying to kill people. I can also understand why they can't be cops anymore.

Just one of the incidents that shows how tough it is to be a cop.

Garcia Bronco
05-21-2009, 12:59 PM
So, according to you, we should allow those who are charged with upholding the law to decide for themselves when they can break the law.

**** that. If we are headed in that direction, I'm going to start carrying a loaded pistol.

I wouldn't be caught dead in Alabama. One of their residents shot my step-father in cold blood. But to answer your question. No I do not think law enforcement is above the law. However my biological father was a Portsmouth City Police Officer for 25 years. That gives me a different perspective.

Garcia Bronco
05-21-2009, 01:19 PM
I don't pave roads. I have subs which do that, if and when we have a project involving asphalt or concrete paving.

BTW: while on the subject of roads (bridges), I heard a blip regarding an investigation of missed inpections of internal bridge components by those charged with inspecting Colorado's bridges. I did miss the newscast that evening. Do you know WTF that was about?

I do not. I'll ask my buddy about that. They just got the contract again for CDOT through 2012. They don't do all the state bridges. I know they don't do Summitt County for example.

Dexter
05-21-2009, 01:29 PM
I can understand why they beat him extra, dude was trying to kill people. I can also understand why they can't be cops anymore.

Just one of the incidents that shows how tough it is to be a cop.

Kinda how I feel. What the cops did was definitely wrong, but man you hit a cop with your car and keep on going, you're in some deep ****. I can't say that if I was a cop I wouldn't have gone into a rage like this, that that's probably why I'm not one.

Cops are supposed to maintain their sanity no matter what.

oubronco
05-21-2009, 03:28 PM
Well, since you asked...I support this decision. They were out of line.

and should have assualt charges brought against them that dude was out when they started beating on him that is B.S.

watermock
05-21-2009, 05:07 PM
The suspect was unconcious. Next.

Popps
05-21-2009, 05:12 PM
I think we all understand why the suspect was beaten.

but the Cops deserved to be fired.

That's it.

I would have beaten the guy, too... if not shot him, and deserved to be fired.

Popps
05-21-2009, 05:13 PM
The suspect was unconcious. Next.

True. It's cool, though. It made connecting with his skull easier. Who knows, maybe sense was beat into him?

GreatBronco16
05-21-2009, 06:28 PM
I wouldn't be caught dead in Alabama. One of their residents shot my step-father in cold blood.

So now that makes all of Alabama bad? Shall I look up the cold blood murders in your state? Alabama is a very nice and friendly state for the most part. But just like all other states, they have their residents that are just plain stupid.

Just don't go into downtown Birmingham after dark.

footstepsfrom#27
05-21-2009, 06:30 PM
It's more than an offense that requires termination. It's a criminal act of aggravated assault. I wonder if they were charged? Probably not or we'd know that by now since it was over a year ago.

How dumb do you have to be to do that knowing you're on tape?

Spider
05-21-2009, 06:35 PM
I just posted a thread about a trooper planning to kill a trucker for money

Br0nc0Buster
05-21-2009, 07:17 PM
So now that makes all of Alabama bad? Shall I look up the cold blood murders in your state? Alabama is a very nice and friendly state for the most part. But just like all other states, they have their residents that are just plain stupid.

Just don't go into downtown Birmingham after dark.

Not really
Alabama has one of the highest murder rates and also one of they highest hate crime rates in the US.

GreatBronco16
05-21-2009, 07:31 PM
Not really
Alabama has one of the highest murder rates and also one of they highest hate crime rates in the US.

I'd like to see a link for this. I do know that Birmingham was, not sure if it still is, one of the highest per capital as far as murder went.

GreatBronco16
05-21-2009, 07:50 PM
Not saying that this is acuate or anything, but it is about the only site I can pull up here at work that shows crime rate by state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Alabama is 17th in amount of total crimes per 100k people. Not great, but not exactly one of the worst either. If you look at the violent crimes, Alabama is not in the top.

DBroncos4life
05-21-2009, 07:56 PM
the dude was acting, they needed to beat his ass to make sure that he wasn't going to get up and run.

Tombstone RJ
05-21-2009, 08:02 PM
These are always fun threads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HSu_RnIwqU
The result is surprising to say the least.

How come all the real crazy drivers are in minivans? I swear, I get passed by more minivans than any other vehicle on the road. It's like they're all crazy... I mean, I'd be PO'd if I had to drive one too but sheesh...

Tombstone RJ
05-21-2009, 08:08 PM
It's more than an offense that requires termination. It's a criminal act of aggravated assault. I wonder if they were charged? Probably not or we'd know that by now since it was over a year ago.

How dumb do you have to be to do that knowing you're on tape?

It's called massive amounts of adrenaline flowing through your body. Couple that with massive stress and human emotion and it's a bad combination.

But you wouldn't understand any of that, 'cause your a fool.

DBroncos4life
05-21-2009, 08:10 PM
How come all the real crazy drivers are in minivans? I swear, I get passed by more minivans than any other vehicle on the road. It's like they're all crazy... I mean, I'd be PO'd if I had to drive one too but sheesh...

How the **** do you get in a high speed chase and not put on a seatbelt?

Spider
05-21-2009, 08:16 PM
Has to be the worst argument ever ......... what state is bad .......... every state I have been in has good and bad areas ........ Just the way it is ....I can take you into places in El Paso Texas that will shake you up , and other parts yo uthink is ****ing Mayberry

epicSocialism4tw
05-21-2009, 08:20 PM
...and this turns ordinary cops into the judge, jury and executioner?

This is the problem.

These clowns were scared and pumped full of adrenaline. Their buddy almost met his maker at the hands of this punk criminal and they werent about to stop in their pursuit of taking him down and out.

The criminal should be locked away for a long time, and the cops should all find new careers because they cant keep their heads clear when they need to the most. Its not their job to issue a sentance. Its their job to apprehend.

epicSocialism4tw
05-21-2009, 08:24 PM
It's more than an offense that requires termination. It's a criminal act of aggravated assault. I wonder if they were charged? Probably not or we'd know that by now since it was over a year ago.

How dumb do you have to be to do that knowing you're on tape?

They didnt think it dumb, they thought it heroic. They thought that their buddies/superiors at the dispatch would watch that video and cheer every punch.

What the videos show is that these guys dont fear auditing...and that is really scary.

DBroncos4life
05-21-2009, 08:25 PM
Every good cop knows you turn off the lights then you beat the guy up.

cutthemdown
05-21-2009, 08:42 PM
Has to be the worst argument ever ......... what state is bad .......... every state I have been in has good and bad areas ........ Just the way it is ....I can take you into places in El Paso Texas that will shake you up , and other parts yo uthink is ****ing Mayberry

Yep.

In my city you can go from million dollar homes to the hood in like 10 minutes. Just how it is in the big city.

Basically the LA Metro area like that from Long Beach all the way to S.M and Bev Hills.

Nice area, bad area, nice area, bad area, with no regional sense to it.

Rossmore, an area of So Calif very nice, very low crime, right next door Hawian Gardens, which is a gang infested cess pool.

Gort
05-21-2009, 08:44 PM
it looks like they were just checking him for concealed donuts. you've got to smash those jelly-filled ones before they detonate. everybody knows that. so what's the big deal?

ok. ok. i'm just kidding. the cops went over the line, but why do tapes like this have to be released to CNN anyway? where in the constitution does it say that CNN talking heads are the checks & balances against police abuse? i guess i don't see what's newsworthy about this... the criminal got 20 years and the cops got fired. what's the point of letting CNN have it 6 months later just so they they can stir up outrage and anti-police hatred? what if CNN edited out the part showing the attempted murder of the cop with the spike strip and only ran the part where the cops were beating on the unconscious man? is that healthy for the community? and why do people in California or Oregon or Maine or Florida need to know what happened with the police in Alabama?

Br0nc0Buster
05-22-2009, 07:40 AM
I'd like to see a link for this. I do know that Birmingham was, not sure if it still is, one of the highest per capital as far as murder went.

Go to census.gov and you can find it there.
I am using a really old computer and I think it is a pdf file and well stuff doesnt load right on this thing.

I think the census was a few years old, but it had Alabama as like the 3rd or 4th highest as far as murder rate with Louisiana being the highest.
Also Alabama was up there in hate crime rates as well

TailgateNut
05-22-2009, 07:43 AM
Not saying that this is acuate or anything, but it is about the only site I can pull up here at work that shows crime rate by state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

Alabama is 17th in amount of total crimes per 100k people. Not great, but not exactly one of the worst either. If you look at the violent crimes, Alabama is not in the top.



Looks like Dallas and Philly DO SUCK.

Spider
05-22-2009, 09:58 AM
it looks like they were just checking him for concealed donuts. you've got to smash those jelly-filled ones before they detonate. everybody knows that. so what's the big deal?

ok. ok. i'm just kidding. the cops went over the line, but why do tapes like this have to be released to CNN anyway? where in the constitution does it say that CNN talking heads are the checks & balances against police abuse? i guess i don't see what's newsworthy about this... the criminal got 20 years and the cops got fired. what's the point of letting CNN have it 6 months later just so they they can stir up outrage and anti-police hatred? what if CNN edited out the part showing the attempted murder of the cop with the spike strip and only ran the part where the cops were beating on the unconscious man? is that healthy for the community? and why do people in California or Oregon or Maine or Florida need to know what happened with the police in Alabama?

you cant be serious ........

GreatBronco16
05-22-2009, 10:04 AM
Go to census.gov and you can find it there.
I am using a really old computer and I think it is a pdf file and well stuff doesnt load right on this thing.

I think the census was a few years old, but it had Alabama as like the 3rd or 4th highest as far as murder rate with Louisiana being the highest.
Also Alabama was up there in hate crime rates as well

Can't find what you're talking about, but I did find this.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/ranks/rank21.html

That is for Violent Crimes, and Alabama is ranked 23rd. I'd think murder and hate would fit into violent crimes.

Flex Gunmetal
05-22-2009, 10:05 AM
it looks like they were just checking him for concealed donuts. you've got to smash those jelly-filled ones before they detonate. everybody knows that. so what's the big deal?

ok. ok. i'm just kidding. the cops went over the line, but why do tapes like this have to be released to CNN anyway? where in the constitution does it say that CNN talking heads are the checks & balances against police abuse? i guess i don't see what's newsworthy about this... the criminal got 20 years and the cops got fired. what's the point of letting CNN have it 6 months later just so they they can stir up outrage and anti-police hatred? what if CNN edited out the part showing the attempted murder of the cop with the spike strip and only ran the part where the cops were beating on the unconscious man? is that healthy for the community? and why do people in California or Oregon or Maine or Florida need to know what happened with the police in Alabama?

Well, the news media tends to report the news.

Why do people in Mexico need to know Barak Obama is the president of the United States?

Spider
05-22-2009, 10:09 AM
Well, the news media tends to report the news.

Why do people in Mexico need to know Barak Obama is the president of the United States?

Thats just crazy talk ;D

Br0nc0Buster
05-22-2009, 03:20 PM
Can't find what you're talking about, but I did find this.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/ranks/rank21.html

That is for Violent Crimes, and Alabama is ranked 23rd. I'd think murder and hate would fit into violent crimes.

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/law_enforcement_courts_prisons/crimes_and_crime_rates.html

Go to crime rates by state and view that.
Alabama is like tied for the 4th higest among the states as far as murder rate

This was done in 06

ro_50
05-22-2009, 04:43 PM
I lived in Birmingham for over a year and a half and I enjoyed my stay there. But having say that, there are places you don't want to go into while you're there.

Alabama gets a bad rap and in this situation, everyone is as fault and got what they deserved. The guy got 20 years but the cops should've done the cop thing and arrested him.