Repubs keep eating their own

[Rigs11]

SAVAGE: And yet here in America, I've had some people come to my aid. They see the bigger picture. They're not like [Bill] O'Reilly; they're not like Limbaugh, who's the biggest disappointment of all. Limbaugh has turned out to be the biggest phony of all of them, all of them. Amongst all of them, he is the biggest fraud. Rush Limbaugh is a fraud. When he was accused of the drug usage, I supported him. But that man is a one-way street. It's all about him. He's in it for nobody but himself.



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[Bob]

This post would mean something, if it didnt come from a party-boy-only poster.

I will say in defence of Savage's right to speak, that he can say what he wants to -- minus asking for violence it is his divinely given right, as it is your right to talk about R's bad, D's good.

Unlike most here I have heard Savage many times -- and never heard anything that would justify England not letting him into their country. He is one angry dude, and find that I cant usually listen more than 30 minutes -- but he is one of the guys that lashes out at D's and R's. What is pissing Savage off (along with folks not standing up for him) is that when Great Britain made a list of "terrorists" that they would not let in, therer were too many Muslims on it, so that government (in the attempt to pacify) felt obligagated to reach (and slander) and put an American radio talk show host on the list? Savage in my mind is guilty of being a loud mouth, and pissing the establishment off, and not being PC.

[Rigs11]

umm at least i have the balls to admit i'm a party only boy, you on the other hand keep trying to pass this bs act that you are bipartisan. It's silly really.And no one is falling for it.

[Bob]

No, I'm right of center, but am capable of voting for D, I, or an R's -- try it sometime, its very liberating -- voting for the best person regardless of label.

[Odysseus]

Republicans are failing like the Ku Klux Klan did in the 1920s. It wasn't that America disagreed with them as much as their own corruption, selfishness, power struggles and eventually it's bad public presence. People don't mind being selfish, short sighted and cruel just as long as they are not murderers.

Entire Klaverns used to show up at church en mass, present it's Christian donation, and then leave the church letting people know that they had a strong voice in the community. There focus was political power more so than murder. The march on Washington in 1920s was massive. (Imperial Wizard Evans led 40,000 robed members in Washington D.C.) There were parts of this nation where you could not get elected without Klan endorsement. If you think the residue of that thinking is dead you are not paying attention to what the Religious right is calling American Tradition.

The Klan was created in Pulaski Tennessee by college educated men whose fraternal organization lost it's focus and despite being disbanded by one of it's primary officers (Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forest) was reborn by a failed minister. Why was the organization disbanded? They resented the punitive Reconstruction politics and carpet baggers but did not want to become the center of violence. Remember when 100's of Republicans were disgraced by D.C. Stephenson? Nobody remembers that.

The klan is not dead. The Republicans are not dead. The klan came about as reformers just like the Republicans did. This ebb and flow is historic and as much as people want to typify klan or Republicans as one thing or another these organizations have been different things at different times. They have grown together, apart, and despite their rhetoric always seem to devolve due to their own efforts rather than anything anyone says about them or does to them.

I am independent voter. I respect the original Republican tenants and their values about property, ownership, and fiscal conservativeness. All their current problems come from their lack of ethics. The Republicans will return. They always have and always will. It is part of American fiber. Believe it.

[Odysseus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._C._Stephenson

Stephenson is credited with the quote, “Everything is fine in politics as long as you don't get caught in bed with a live man, or a dead woman.” He was infamous for having claimed "I am the law in Indiana."

[Odysseus]

Does anyone think that Cheney is right?