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rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:13 PM
So My son who is 3 just came home the other day and goes. "Who you Gonna Call?"

I bust out "Ghost Busters!" He laughs hysterically and goes on to repeat a little more of the music. Now I am thinking wait a second. So I ask him What happens at the end. He Goes on to tell me about a Giant White Monster going after the Ghost Busters. I am Instantly Furious.

There is no way my 3 year old son should be watching that movie. I could not believe that any sane adult would let kids that age watch it. I am Livid.

Pick Six
05-13-2009, 03:15 PM
I totally understand, with lyrics such as "bustin' makes me feel good"...Ha!

broncosteven
05-13-2009, 03:16 PM
It could be worse, They could have forced him to watch Ghostbusters II.

crush17
05-13-2009, 03:17 PM
You can't deny the tot some Peter Venkman!

"This chick is TOAST!"

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/pepexe/dr_venkman.jpg

mr007
05-13-2009, 03:18 PM
At least it wasn't Robocop.

no-pseudo-fan
05-13-2009, 03:18 PM
I taught my little girl(2) to say "Nobody puts Baby in a corner". My wife didn't think it was funny when she told my daughter to go to a timeout.

Killericon
05-13-2009, 03:19 PM
From the Kid's side of it, let me say that I watched stuff like that when I was little(I saw Scary Movie when I was 10 and was laughing the loudest in the theatre) and I'm fine. Actually...Some of my earliest childhood memories are of listening to Flo and Eddie(My Mom's favourite...Terrible stuff) and I can safely say that the jokes you're worried about your kid hearing, he doesn't get.

Beantown Bronco
05-13-2009, 03:22 PM
You're worried about Ghostbusters?

My three year old's favorite movie is Saw.

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:23 PM
I don't want my kid to know words that I can't type on a message board. I also don't want him sexualized at a young age. Nothing good can come from it.

dbfan4life
05-13-2009, 03:24 PM
Ghostbusters? Really? I have more of a problem with Harry Potter and Chronicles of Narnia than I do with Ghostbusters.

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:24 PM
You're worried about Ghostbusters?

My three year old's favorite movie is Saw.

Dear God I hope you are joking. I watched that once and wish I could undo it.

Boobs McGee
05-13-2009, 03:25 PM
I taught my little girl(2) to say "Nobody puts Baby in a corner". My wife didn't think it was funny when she told my daughter to go to a timeout.

ROFL!

Smiling Assassin27
05-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Dude, it's a scary world. I know a day care teacher who lets her sons (5 and 3) watch Chucky movies to 'calm them down'.

I bet she watches Nightmare on Elm Street to get in the mood.

At any rate, I'm sure we can all agree that, for comedic relief, nothing beats watching the Oakland Raiders.

TheReverend
05-13-2009, 03:28 PM
Joke thread, imo

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:28 PM
I think By my not changing with the Ebb and Flow of Society I am now going to be looked at as a nutjob. I still get offended when people lie to me. Old School I guess.

bronco militia
05-13-2009, 03:31 PM
You're worried about Ghostbusters?

My three year old's favorite movie is Saw.

:spit:

my 4 year old doesn't care for movies, but I catch him playing Left for Dead all the time....

Garcia Bronco
05-13-2009, 03:38 PM
I think By my not changing with the Ebb and Flow of Society I am now going to be looked at as a nutjob. I still get offended when people lie to me. Old School I guess.

I hear you. PArents elsewhere should take a few moments to consult about these things before they do it. I don't particularly view GB's as a movie that would cause any problems, but as a parent I would consult the other kid's parents before viewing.

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:38 PM
Wow Google has gotten fast at this. Ghostbusters in the ads.

mr007
05-13-2009, 03:39 PM
I also don't want him sexualized at a young age.

Yeah.... it's really hindered the social development of countries like Europe, Australia, etc....

BroncoMan4ever
05-13-2009, 03:40 PM
You're worried about Ghostbusters?

My three year old's favorite movie is Saw.

I know. I was like 3 when the 1st Die Hard came out, and i went around saying Yippee Kaya Mother****er, because i thought John McClain was a bad mother****er.

i was born in a time of Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Robocop, and other ultra violent movies.

i say be happy your kid is watching Ghostbusters and isn't watching **** like Saw or Hostel.

Popps
05-13-2009, 03:40 PM
I taught my little girl(2) to say "Nobody puts Baby in a corner". My wife didn't think it was funny when she told my daughter to go to a timeout.

:rofl:

I'll learn from your mistake on this one... and avoid it. (But, I like it. :)

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:42 PM
Yeah.... it's really hindered the social development of countries like Europe, Australia, etc....

Let me be the first to say that I do not think that the social Development of Europe and Australia to be anything to be striven for. I can see nothing positive coming from that.

SonOfLe-loLang
05-13-2009, 03:44 PM
I don't want my kid to know words that I can't type on a message board. I also don't want him sexualized at a young age. Nothing good can come from it.

Dude, now I'm no parent, but you can't shelter your kid from language no matter how hard you try. Plus, he's not going to pick up on ANY of the sexual innuendo of Ghostbusters...he'll only see it as a fun movie where they fight marshmellows at the end.
Seriously, relax dude. I watched John Waters movies when i was like 9 and somehow turned out just fine.

Kaylore
05-13-2009, 03:46 PM
Ghostbusters is awesome. I think everyone should be required to memorize that movie by the time they're ten years old.

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Dude, now I'm no parent, but you can't shelter your kid from language no matter how hard you try. Plus, he's not going to pick up on ANY of the sexual innuendo of Ghostbusters...he'll only see it as a fun movie where they fight marshmellows at the end.
Seriously, relax dude. I watched John Waters movies when i was like 9 and somehow turned out just fine.

My Kids are not Sheltered. But I do control access to everything they watch on TV. On the other hand they are free to fry bugs with a magnifying glass. And when they Turn 12 Each one will get a .22 Rifle.

GreatBronco16
05-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Are you seriously flipping out over Ghostbusters? This wasn't the porn version of the movie was it, cause that I could understand.

dbfan4life
05-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Ghostbusters is awesome. I think everyone should be required to memorize that movie by the time they're ten years old.

Co-signed. Has to be one of my all time favs!

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:49 PM
Ghostbusters is awesome. I think everyone should be required to memorize that movie by the time they're ten years old.

So you have no problem with your 3 year old. Watching the two demon Possesed people getting it on. Or the Scene with the no hands pant take off while she hovers over the bed?

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 03:50 PM
Are you seriously flipping out over Ghostbusters? This wasn't the porn version of the movie was it, cause that I could understand.

Well I did not punch anyone in the throat.

Gcver2ver3
05-13-2009, 03:51 PM
I totally understand, with lyrics such as "bustin' makes me feel good"...Ha!

Hilarious! ....

Gcver2ver3
05-13-2009, 03:51 PM
It could be worse, They could have forced him to watch Ghostbusters II.

.....:rofl: another funny...

Gcver2ver3
05-13-2009, 03:52 PM
Ghostbusters? Really? I have more of a problem with Harry Potter and Chronicles of Narnia than I do with Ghostbusters.

this...

Kaylore
05-13-2009, 03:55 PM
So you have no problem with your 3 year old. Watching the two demon Possesed people getting it on. Or the Scene with the no hands pant take off while she hovers over the bed?

I don't have kids and so will try not to judge how others parent. My parents just used the rating system of the movie: So I couldn't see PG-13 before I was thirteen and they frowned on all R rated movies. I also felt guilty when I did see an R rated movie before I was a teenager (with a few exceptions).

Ghostbusters is rated PG. To my knowledge there is no death or people getting hurt. A little bit of swearing and the demon ghost thing might be too much for some families. I could see why you'd take issue with your three year old seeing that. However there are worse things they could watch and I think most families feel pretty safe about that one. I think you just need to let your kid and his friends' parents know what he can watch in advance to avoid this.

ak1971
05-13-2009, 03:56 PM
Im hoping if I have kids they have a serious drinking problem by age three. I figure I can get supplemental income from the govt for it

Smiling Assassin27
05-13-2009, 03:59 PM
Ghostbusters is awesome. I think everyone should be required to memorize that movie by the time they're ten years old.


I love this plan. I'm excited to be a part of it! Let's do it!

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 04:00 PM
I don't have kids and so will try not to judge how others parent. My parents just used the rating system of the movie: So I couldn't see PG-13 before I was thirteen and they frowned on all R rated movies. I also felt guilty when I did see an R rated movie before I was a teenager (with a few exceptions).

Ghostbusters is rated PG. To my knowledge there is no death or people getting hurt. A little bit of swearing and the demon ghost thing might be too much for some families. I could see why you'd take issue with your three year old seeing that. However there are worse things they could watch and I think most families feel pretty safe about that one. I think you just need to let your kid and his friends' parents know what he can watch in advance to avoid this.


Trust me they know.

All I let my Kids watch is Discovery Channel. They probably see 4-6 hours of TV each Week. I Also let him watch sports like Basketball, Boxing, Football and UFC.

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 04:00 PM
Im hoping if I have kids they have a serious drinking problem by age three. I figure I can get supplemental income from the govt for it

Sweet than you can rent a house from me.

ak1971
05-13-2009, 04:03 PM
Sweet than you can rent a house from me.

my other plan is to have about 12 kids so they can all steal stuff for me

rugbythug
05-13-2009, 04:05 PM
my other plan is to have about 12 kids so they can all steal stuff for me

Twelve Kids will be easy Unless you only want one BabyMama. Then it is going to take a while. But I like this Oliver Twist vibe you have going on. Drunken Thieves Guild.

Br0nc0Buster
05-13-2009, 04:06 PM
Let me be the first to say that I do not think that the social Development of Europe and Australia to be anything to be striven for. I can see nothing positive coming from that.

yeah girls in the US are only 70 times more likely to get an STD than their European counterparts
The US only has the highest teen pregnancy rates and abortion rates in the modernized world.

But you are right, Europe has it all wrong

I cant believe anyone would actually consider Ghostbusters something to be concerned about.
Its rated like PG, unless you want your kids to spend their entire life inside your house, they are going to see worse stuff than that pretty much everyday.

better not let your child watch Spongebob either, one time they said the word "crap"

Popps
05-13-2009, 04:12 PM
Agree on Ghostbusters, though. A bit overwhelming for a toddler.

It's easy to forget how scary things like that can be. Even most Disney stuff has some fairly heavy/scary scenes. We're pretty cautious in general. Why not bring them along slowly.

Popps
05-13-2009, 04:13 PM
Are you seriously flipping out over Ghostbusters? This wasn't the porn version of the movie was it, cause that I could understand.

Great flick, but kids between 2-3 aren't generally ready for that kind of thing, conceptually. Most child psychologists say they shouldn't be watching TV at all. I wouldn't go that far, but the violence can seem harmless to us and have a pretty big impact on their little developing brains.

Denver Crush
05-13-2009, 04:24 PM
You have a problem with Ghostbusters but let him watch UFC? That is nutjob IMO.

Ratboy
05-13-2009, 04:27 PM
You let your kids watch 2 people beat the **** out of each other, but can't allow them to watch a harmless Ghostbusters movie?

To each their own!

broncosteven
05-13-2009, 04:27 PM
my other plan is to have about 12 kids so they can all steal stuff for me

Ask Travis Henry how that worked out for him.

Ratboy
05-13-2009, 04:27 PM
You have a problem with Ghostbusters but let him watch UFC? That is nutjob IMO.

Ha!

STBumpkin
05-13-2009, 04:28 PM
I understand you being upset. PG stands for parental guidance suggested, so yeah, you should take a look to decide if you want it seen by your kid or not. For all those saying that he will be exposed to worse: Why expose him yourself ESPECIALLY because he will see worse? It's like piling on. Good on you. There are plenty of shows to show him until he is old/mature enough.

TheReverend
05-13-2009, 04:31 PM
I have my daughter watch Mean Girls so she can learn how to properly socially castrate fat and ugly chicks.

ak1971
05-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Ask Travis Henry how that worked out for him.

I'll be smarter and let the kids smuggle the drugs for me

Smiling Assassin27
05-13-2009, 04:35 PM
Great flick, but kids between 2-3 aren't generally ready for that kind of thing, conceptually. Most child psychologists say they shouldn't be watching TV at all. I wouldn't go that far, but the violence can seem harmless to us and have a pretty big impact on their little developing brains.

about the only thing my kid (who's 9) can remember from Ghostbusters is when Sigourney Weaver is possessed by Zul and starts talking in a satanic voice--i can imagine for 3 year olds that would be kinda distressing as well. there's a level of emotional maturity needed to deal wiht that kind of stuff that 3 year olds just ain't got.

Popps
05-13-2009, 04:39 PM
about the only thing my kid (who's 9) can remember from Ghostbusters is when Sigourney Weaver is possessed by Zul and starts talking in a satanic voice--i can imagine for 3 year olds that would be kinda distressing as well. there's a level of emotional maturity needed to deal wiht that kind of stuff that 3 year olds just ain't got.

Exactly.

I get the argument that you can't shield kids from everything.... absolutely. But, there are just stages of mental development that don't coincide with seeing certain kinds of violence, etc.

Killericon
05-13-2009, 04:42 PM
Let me be the first to say that I do not think that the social Development of Europe and Australia to be anything to be striven for. I can see nothing positive coming from that.

Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!

Inkana7
05-13-2009, 04:42 PM
Let me be the first to say that I do not think that the social Development of Europe and Australia to be anything to be striven for. I can see nothing positive coming from that.

Then you don't know anything about modern European and Australian society. We must look like some sort of post-apocalyptic wasteland to him.

Archer81
05-13-2009, 05:14 PM
The problem is ghostbusters? What exactly do you object to?


:Broncos:

STBumpkin
05-13-2009, 05:24 PM
The problem is ghostbusters? What exactly do you object to?


:Broncos:

Read the thread.

Bronx33
05-13-2009, 05:27 PM
I don't want my kid to know words that I can't type on a message board. I also don't want him sexualized at a young age. Nothing good can come from it.


You worry too much.

Archer81
05-13-2009, 05:27 PM
Read the thread.


Did, thats why I asked. A 3 year old wont understand flying phantasms who make pants fly off or why Weaver is making out with Moranis. All they know is 4 goofy guys have lazer packs and shoot ghosts.

:Broncos:

SonOfLe-loLang
05-13-2009, 05:36 PM
Did, thats why I asked. A 3 year old wont understand flying phantasms who make pants fly off or why Weaver is making out with Moranis. All they know is 4 goofy guys have lazer packs and shoot ghosts.

:Broncos:

exactly...and a big puffy marshmellow at the end. And the song.

bombay
05-13-2009, 05:45 PM
Yeah.... it's really hindered the social development of countries like Europe, Australia, etc....


Imagine what it could do to continents.

Rock Chalk
05-13-2009, 05:53 PM
I watched Poltergeist when I was 5.

Come on.

Its ****ing Ghostbusters.

A 3 year old isnt going to get the adult comedy in it and its not like there are f bombs left and right. ALl he will remember is that they caught ghosts and there was a big fight against a huge marshmellow at the end.

mr007
05-13-2009, 05:54 PM
Imagine what it could do to continents.

Australia is a country as well as an island... but yeah my bad I meant European society, obviously Europe is a continent and not a country. Sweet passive sarcasm though!

bombay
05-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Australia is a country as well as an island... but yeah my bad I meant European society, obviously Europe is a continent and not a country. Sweet passive sarcasm though!


Yeah. I was just foolin'.

DHallblows
05-13-2009, 06:06 PM
Won't lie, I saw it when I was like 8...ish and I have no idea what you're talking about. There's a sex scene?! ??? Really? huh, forgot about that. I assumed you were mad cuz there's a scary part with that demon lady...
Calm down, I hardly even remember anything from 3 years old. I don't think I can remember anything from that age actually...went to the hospital when my brother was born, but that's it ROFL! You need to not worry so much.

Popps
05-13-2009, 06:08 PM
Did, thats why I asked. A 3 year old wont understand flying phantasms who make pants fly off or why Weaver is making out with Moranis. All they know is 4 goofy guys have lazer packs and shoot ghosts.

:Broncos:

Not so sure about that. Toddler's are extremely perceptive. I spend every day with one and have had the pleasure of taking her to her her classes, etc.

My daughter, like the rest of the kids her age is extremely perceptive. If you read about how kids that age learn, they're CONSTANTLY inputting and processing information. The trick is, they don't always react immediately.

2-3 year olds will repeat things you said or did days ago, out of nowhere. There's no time in our lives where our brains are ingesting and saving information more quickly, and yet... still in such an early stage of development, there's no way they can properly manage all of this new information.

So, while a giant marshmallow smashing up a city is just funny to anyone past the age of 6 or so.... a 2-3 year may have issues processing it, understanding it and coping with it. Keep in mind, you're talking about an age of kids that are still afraid of bugs, the dark and being away from their mothers for more than a few minutes.

Again, there's nothing wrong with the movie itself, it's just specifically about age, and I understand a parent being cautious with a 2-3 year old's fragile state of development. There's enough science out there to make this a pretty easy decision.

Moreno Knows Best
05-13-2009, 06:11 PM
Pure comedy @ flipping out over Ghostbusters but thinking UFC is wholesome family entertainment.

Jason in LA
05-13-2009, 06:38 PM
So My son who is 3 just came home the other day and goes. "Who you Gonna Call?"

I bust out "Ghost Busters!" He laughs hysterically and goes on to repeat a little more of the music. Now I am thinking wait a second. So I ask him What happens at the end. He Goes on to tell me about a Giant White Monster going after the Ghost Busters. I am Instantly Furious.

There is no way my 3 year old son should be watching that movie. I could not believe that any sane adult would let kids that age watch it. I am Livid.

Wow, talk about overreacting. Ghostbusters is really mild. I don't see any problem with kids of any age seeing that movie. Even if you have an issue with it, I'd say that being furious is taking it a little too far.

I used to monitor what my son watched. He's 13 now, so as long as it's not porn I really don't care (I'm pretty sure he's seen porn by now). But when he was younger he saw some stuff that I didn't have a problem with. My brother has a kid the same age, and he didn't take his son to see the last Star Wars movie because it was more violent than the rest of them. The kid was like 10. I thought it was weird, and he really shelters his kid.

I remember when I was a kid, my brothers and I would watch all kind of stuff. Nightmare on Elm Street, 1st and 10. When I was like 10 we were watching Porkies, which was like the most awesome movie that a ten year old boy could watch. When the parents weren't looking we'd watch Cinemax after dark. Awesome! Well my brothers and I all turned out fine. All college grads, and none of us have ever been arrested. So I'd say don't worry about it.

SureShot
05-13-2009, 06:40 PM
Trust me they know.

All I let my Kids watch is Discovery Channel. They probably see 4-6 hours of TV each Week. I Also let him watch sports like Basketball, Boxing, Football and UFC.

He can't watch Ghostbusters but he can UFC? I look forward to your sheltered son going off the deep end and stealing my TV.

broncosteven
05-13-2009, 06:40 PM
I watched Poltergeist when I was 5.

Come on.

Its ****ing Ghostbusters.

A 3 year old isnt going to get the adult comedy in it and its not like there are f bombs left and right. ALl he will remember is that they caught ghosts and there was a big fight against a huge marshmellow at the end.

We watched Poltergeist at the house when we were kids around 1984, I had to be 16-17 years old and my sister was 12-13 and my brother (who posts here and I hope doesn't hate me for telling this story) was 8-9.

We watched it late one weekend night. Right after the movie ended I hid up in his room upstairs.

When he came in to go to bed I jumped out and yelled ARGGG or something like that. He jumped back and hit his head on the door jam then he freaked out and went into some sort of trance, he kept backing away from me and ended up backing himself down the stairs. I think my dad had to catch him to keep him from falling.

I thought I gave him a heart attack/brain damage and put him in a coma. It scared me more at the time until my sister started laughing her ass off.

It took him awhile to come to.

We were so bad to him when I was in HS.

Lev Vyvanse
05-13-2009, 06:58 PM
You have a problem with Ghostbusters but let him watch UFC? That is nutjob IMO.

You've got to be kidding you donít see the difference between violence (wholesome fun) and the Ghostbusters (sexual and spiritual deviants). Dude get a clue.
I agree with rev joke thread.

spdirty
05-13-2009, 07:15 PM
Damn, Ghostbusters? I watched that when I was like 5. But I remember the short time I lived with my grandparents they wouldnt let me watch the Simpsons. Hell now they watch South Park with me. With my kids, wont let em watch South Park, but I dont mind PG-13.

But I wont let em watch tonights Nuggets game with me cuz its gonna be a slaughter. :)

Cool Breeze
05-13-2009, 07:19 PM
All you can do is the best you can. The fact that you care and are aware puts you ahead of many. Kids need involved parents. That is what kids want.

Good for you!

The fact that you second guess yourself shows that you know you have room to grow as a parent. We do get better...

Hopefully we allow our children room to grow,
and maybe they'll do better than us.

broncosteven
05-13-2009, 07:25 PM
Damn, Ghostbusters? I watched that when I was like 5. But I remember the short time I lived with my grandparents they wouldnt let me watch the Simpsons. Hell now they watch South Park with me. With my kids, wont let em watch South Park, but I dont mind PG-13.

But I wont let em watch tonights Nuggets game with me cuz its gonna be a slaughter. :)

I refuse to let my kids watch Spongebob or simpsons. I relent on Hanna Montana but Zack and Cody are about to be cut out. I think these tween shows are getting too old for the tweeners.

OABB
05-13-2009, 07:26 PM
there is a kid friendly version called goatse-busters that i think you would love. check it out.

loborugger
05-13-2009, 07:30 PM
RugbyThug... you have two threads on the front page currently.

One praises Mark Cuban. The other damns Ghostbusters.

Am I the only one confused by this?

GreatBronco16
05-13-2009, 07:39 PM
Great flick, but kids between 2-3 aren't generally ready for that kind of thing, conceptually. Most child psychologists say they shouldn't be watching TV at all. I wouldn't go that far, but the violence can seem harmless to us and have a pretty big impact on their little developing brains.

I think my kids first watched this movie at ages 4 and 5. My oldest is one of the best football players on his team, and they both make A's and B's in school. So yeah, it makes a big impact alright. ;D

azbroncfan
05-13-2009, 07:45 PM
So you have no problem with your 3 year old. Watching the two demon Possesed people getting it on. Or the Scene with the no hands pant take off while she hovers over the bed?

They hear a lot worse stuff than that at school. Ghostbusters is a fairly clean and I don't see a problem with it. I think sheltering kids does more harm than good and if this is the worst movie they see when 3 and internet access I feel good.

GreatBronco16
05-13-2009, 07:47 PM
RugbyThug... you have two threads on the front page currently.

One praises Mark Cuban. The other damns Ghostbusters.

Am I the only one confused by this?

:spit:

azbroncfan
05-13-2009, 07:53 PM
I watched Poltergeist when I was 5.

Come on.

Its ****ing Ghostbusters.

A 3 year old isnt going to get the adult comedy in it and its not like there are f bombs left and right. ALl he will remember is that they caught ghosts and there was a big fight against a huge marshmellow at the end.

No sh#t. I did too and it scared the crap out of me. With all these new child pyschologists and child developement doctors nowdays I wonder how I even survived watching Poltergeist, Predator, Terminator, Friday the 13th, Full metal Jacket, Platoon, Hamburger Hill, and a bunch of horror movies. Parents thought it was okay as long as I didn't show any signs of those movies affecting me and they were right. Infact I remember so little of all the R rated movies I saw around the age of 5.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 08:07 PM
Ghostbusters? Oh for heavens sake! I was three the first time I saw a steer killed and butchered. How did anyone survive child hood when things were more real. My father cussed like a sailor. When my brothers and sisters were teething they rubbed whiskey on our gums. we carried pocket knives at 7. 3 year olds seeing puppies and kittens born and mom or dad explaining the miracle of birth and where babies come from. Now since doctor spock we have all these experts telling us how to raise the kids and what this or that does to their fragile brains. Okay, so ghostbusters wasn't out when you were 3. What movie do you remember seeing when you were 3? Can't remember can you. You don't know what your parents expoised you to probably and I assume you turned out fine. The way people worry over the small stuff now days is rediculous.

Okay end of rant, but Ghostbusters?

azbroncfan
05-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Ghostbusters? Oh for heavens sake! I was three the first time I saw a steer killed and butchered. How did anyone survive child hood when things were more real. My father cussed like a sailor. When my brothers and sisters were teething they rubbed whiskey on our gums. we carried pocket knives at 7. 3 year olds seeing puppies and kittens born and mom or dad explaining the miracle of birth and where babies come from. Now since doctor spock we have all these experts telling us how to raise the kids and what this or that does to their fragile brains. Okay, so ghostbusters wasn't out when you were 3. What movie do you remember seeing when you were 3? Can't remember can you. You don't know what your parents expoised you to probably and I assume you turned out fine. The way people worry over the small stuff now days is rediculous.

Okay end of rant, but Ghostbusters?

Yep you probably played in the streets, slept in a lead based painted crib, drank from the garden hose too just like me. I don't know how I am alive anymore or made it this far.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 08:19 PM
Yep you probably played in the streets, slept in a lead based painted crib, drank from the garden hose too just like me. I don't know how I am alive anymore or made it this far.

Yeah, Man I remember hide and seek in the neighborhood and street football. Those were the days.

gunns
05-13-2009, 08:29 PM
The scariest thing, with the most vile language my kids and grandkids have ever seen is me watching the Broncos losing to the Raiders. I think it scarred them for life.

Archer81
05-13-2009, 08:33 PM
Ghostbusters? Oh for heavens sake! I was three the first time I saw a steer killed and butchered. How did anyone survive child hood when things were more real. My father cussed like a sailor. When my brothers and sisters were teething they rubbed whiskey on our gums. we carried pocket knives at 7. 3 year olds seeing puppies and kittens born and mom or dad explaining the miracle of birth and where babies come from. Now since doctor spock we have all these experts telling us how to raise the kids and what this or that does to their fragile brains. Okay, so ghostbusters wasn't out when you were 3. What movie do you remember seeing when you were 3? Can't remember can you. You don't know what your parents expoised you to probably and I assume you turned out fine. The way people worry over the small stuff now days is rediculous.

Okay end of rant, but Ghostbusters?



When I was 12 my dad had a tape of a Liberian warlord being tortured and cut into pieces. He let me watch one of the "safer" clips to make a point. Anything on TV is never going to compare to the BS real people do to one another. Pretty much will stay with me forever. So when people say TV and movies are violent and should be banned, i laugh.

:Broncos:

gunns
05-13-2009, 08:42 PM
Yeah, Man I remember hide and seek in the neighborhood and street football. Those were the days.


And a lot of times it was at night. Made hide and seek so fun, you could scare the crap out of the searcher.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 08:47 PM
And a lot of times it was at night. Made hide and seek so fun, you could scare the crap out of the searcher.

Always at night. I know things have changed but if neighbors knew neighbors like they used to it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

cutthemdown
05-13-2009, 09:05 PM
From the Kid's side of it, let me say that I watched stuff like that when I was little(I saw Scary Movie when I was 10 and was laughing the loudest in the theatre) and I'm fine. Actually...Some of my earliest childhood memories are of listening to Flo and Eddie(My Mom's favourite...Terrible stuff) and I can safely say that the jokes you're worried about your kid hearing, he doesn't get.

Dude if you saw Scary Movie when you were 10 you still are a kid.

cutthemdown
05-13-2009, 09:06 PM
When I was 12 my dad had a tape of a Liberian warlord being tortured and cut into pieces. He let me watch one of the "safer" clips to make a point. Anything on TV is never going to compare to the BS real people do to one another. Pretty much will stay with me forever. So when people say TV and movies are violent and should be banned, i laugh.

:Broncos:

Who was your dad Ted ****ing Nugent. Geeze.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 09:15 PM
When I was 12 my dad had a tape of a Liberian warlord being tortured and cut into pieces. He let me watch one of the "safer" clips to make a point. Anything on TV is never going to compare to the BS real people do to one another. Pretty much will stay with me forever. So when people say TV and movies are violent and should be banned, i laugh.

:Broncos:

Okay, that might be a little extreme but the truth is I believe we are born with the mechanism to tell right from wrong and our interaction with other people is what decides our view in real life is not what people see in movies or tv.

Jason in LA
05-13-2009, 09:29 PM
Ghostbusters? Oh for heavens sake! I was three the first time I saw a steer killed and butchered. How did anyone survive child hood when things were more real. My father cussed like a sailor. When my brothers and sisters were teething they rubbed whiskey on our gums. we carried pocket knives at 7. 3 year olds seeing puppies and kittens born and mom or dad explaining the miracle of birth and where babies come from. Now since doctor spock we have all these experts telling us how to raise the kids and what this or that does to their fragile brains. Okay, so ghostbusters wasn't out when you were 3. What movie do you remember seeing when you were 3? Can't remember can you. You don't know what your parents expoised you to probably and I assume you turned out fine. The way people worry over the small stuff now days is rediculous.

Okay end of rant, but Ghostbusters?

When I was about 10 my grandmother bought my brother and I ninja stars. She had to go down to the store and sign a release form so we could get it. She was the coolest.

Jason in LA
05-13-2009, 09:32 PM
Yep you probably played in the streets, slept in a lead based painted crib, drank from the garden hose too just like me. I don't know how I am alive anymore or made it this far.

Street football was great. We had a sideline pop rule. If you were near the sideline, and there was grass next to the curb, we could knock the crap out of you because you'd land on the grass. But if it was a drive way then it was 3 second hold.

And nobody wanted to go inside to get some water when there was a garden hose right there on the side of the house.

Jason in LA
05-13-2009, 09:39 PM
I watched Star Wars as a kid. Han Solo pretty much blew some creature's head off. Storm Troopers slaughtered pretty much everybody trying to find two droids. Obi Won chopped some creature's arm off. Darth Vadar sliced Obi Won in half. And Luke blew up a space station with probably thousands of people in it just before that space station could blow up a second planet with millions of people on it. That was just the first movie.

Oh, and I saw Michael Jackson's Thriller, which scared the hell out of me. That and Creep Show.

Ghostbusters was pretty mild compared to those movies. Actually, I'd say it's a movie that kids of all ages can enjoy.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 09:44 PM
Street football was great. We had a sideline pop rule. If you were near the sideline, and there was grass next to the curb, we could knock the crap out of you because you'd land on the grass. But if it was a drive way then it was 3 second hold.

And nobody wanted to go inside to get some water when there was a garden hose right there on the side of the house.

I like that rule, wish we played with it. Oh wait some body might get hurt. We must protect the children from themselves. Never mind.

Br0nc0Buster
05-13-2009, 09:49 PM
Street football was great. We had a sideline pop rule. If you were near the sideline, and there was grass next to the curb, we could knock the crap out of you because you'd land on the grass. But if it was a drive way then it was 3 second hold.

And nobody wanted to go inside to get some water when there was a garden hose right there on the side of the house.

Didnt play in the street, but played bike tag in the street. It was actually quite dangerous.

Played football though in the grass, and one of my friends liked to pretend he was Michael Jordon, who didnt, but he would do the whole stick out his tongue thing.
Yeah in football that is a bad idea and after I tackled him one time he got up with his mouth full of blood.
Apparently when I tackled him his jaw slammed shut and cut his tongue up, I am pretty sure he had to get stitches

Popps
05-13-2009, 09:57 PM
Sounds like people are mixing up a lot of arguments, here... but specifically, the question pertained to a 2 or 3 year old watching that kind of TV, and as a parent... I'd definitely steer clear.

A few years later, and it's a different story. But, with 1000 things better to do to help the child's mind develop properly, why waste time with trying to have them watch movies made for 13+ year olds?

bronco610
05-13-2009, 10:00 PM
Sounds like people are mixing up a lot of arguments, here... but specifically, the question pertained to a 2 or 3 year old watching that kind of TV, and as a parent... I'd definitely steer clear.

A few years later, and it's a different story. But, with 1000 things better to do to help the child's mind develop properly, why waste time with trying to have them watch movies made for 13+ year olds?

I think it was some parents having several kids including the 3 yr old watching the movie. The question is did it hurt the kid and should the parent take exception? No.

ZONA
05-13-2009, 10:04 PM
I don't care how you want to rationalize it, 3 year old kids should not be watching SAW. You may think you are preparing them early for the real world but the truth is, the world is what you make it to be. Things happen, sure, but how you react to what happens is what's most important. The young years are their best developmental years. I can't help but think there are way more important things your kids could be doing with their time then watching horror flicks. I don't have kids myself but I watch my 4 and 6 year old nephews every week a few times and I teach them guitar chords, play educational games and sometimes we watch TV but usually things like Discovery channel and the Science channel, when they have shows on about nature stuff. But their favorite is getting on my PC and playing with MS Paint. I usually open a picture and they try to match up the colors and paint over the image the best they can.

Oh yeah, and my brother doesn't like it much when he comes over and they have on my Broncos gear. He's a Cards fan.........lol.

Teaching your young ones about the Broncos is VERY educational. I also teach them that the Raiders and Chiefs are pathetic. Hilarious!

Popps
05-13-2009, 10:05 PM
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I think it was some parents having several kids including the 3 yr old watching the movie. The question is did it hurt the kid and should the parent take exception? No.

Well, I don't know that it "hurt" the kid, but I think it's fair for a parent to take issue with a 2 year old watching content designed for adults, particularly if it revolves around concepts like violence, ghosts, etc.

Again, even if it's harmless and funny to us... you have to remember that 2 year olds are afraid of EVERYTHING. A parent has a right to bring their kid along at the pace they see fit. As some people have pointed out, there's some content in that movie that might frighten or confuse a 24-36 month old, developing brain.

That said, I don't think it's cause for panic. It's just valid for a parent to have a concern in that situation.

Popps
05-13-2009, 10:07 PM
I don't care how you want to rationalize it, 3 year old kids should not be watching SAW. .

Well, now that's a different story all together. Anyone subjecting their kids to that stuff should simply have them removed, and then be beaten to a bloody soup-like substance.

24champ
05-13-2009, 10:15 PM
Speaking of things Parents should not do-

Don't bring kids to the Broncos Training Camp.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 10:26 PM
Well, I don't know that it "hurt" the kid, but I think it's fair for a parent to take issue with a 2 year old watching content designed for adults, particularly if it revolves around concepts like violence, ghosts, etc.

Again, even if it's harmless and funny to us... you have to remember that 2 year olds are afraid of EVERYTHING. A parent has a right to bring their kid along at the pace they see fit. As some people have pointed out, there's some content in that movie that might frighten or confuse a 24-36 month old, developing brain.

That said, I don't think it's cause for panic. It's just valid for a parent to have a concern in that situation.

He was 3. Huge difference. (just kidding)
I didn't say he shouldn't have a concern, but he said he was furious. He also said its okay for the same 3 year old to watch ufc fights. That is real people beating the s*** out of each other not giant marshmellow man coming to get you. I think a 3 year old can tell the difference and would be more worried about that than ghostbusters. Having said that I don't believe either is going to do harm to the kid.

bronco610
05-13-2009, 10:26 PM
Speaking of things Parents should not do-

Don't bring kids to the Broncos Training Camp.

Finally a voice of real reason!!!!:thumbsup:

Archer81
05-13-2009, 10:32 PM
Who was your dad Ted ****ing Nugent. Geeze.



I'm pretty sure to be a Marine you have to be a tiny bit insane.

:Broncos:

Jason in LA
05-13-2009, 10:36 PM
Sticking to the age in question (3 years old), like I said before, I watched Star Wars as a small child. It came out when I was less than a year old. I don't remember how old I was the first time I saw it. I was probably around 3 or 4. It was awesome. I loved it.

If somebody has a problem with Ghostbusters, they'd probably have a problem with Star Wars too, which I find silly.

Come to think of it, I took my son to see Star Wars Episode I in the theater. He had just turned 3 when it came out. He loved it (he really didn't understand that it sucked compared to the other ones.)

Jason in LA
05-13-2009, 10:39 PM
He was 3. Huge difference. (just kidding)
I didn't say he shouldn't have a concern, but he said he was furious. He also said its okay for the same 3 year old to watch ufc fights. That is real people beating the s*** out of each other not giant marshmellow man coming to get you. I think a 3 year old can tell the difference and would be more worried about that than ghostbusters. Having said that I don't believe either is going to do harm to the kid.


Being furious is what gets me too. My father was furious when he found out that my cousin showed my brother and I Fatal Attraction. That's something to be furious about. But Ghostbusters? That's kind of silly.

24champ
05-13-2009, 10:47 PM
I saw "Basic instinct" when I was 7.

GreatBronco16
05-13-2009, 10:54 PM
I saw "Basic instinct" when I was 7.

I was watching full blown porn in Germany when I was 7. I loved it.

Archer81
05-13-2009, 10:55 PM
Had access to cinemax when I turned 11. Ahh, cable TV...


:Broncos:

24champ
05-13-2009, 11:03 PM
Had access to cinemax when I turned 11. Ahh, cable TV...


:Broncos:

HBO was more fun to watch, "taxi cab confessions" was awesome, particularly when drunk chicks got naked in the back of the cab. ;D

Archer81
05-13-2009, 11:10 PM
HBO was more fun to watch, "taxi cab confessions" was awesome, particularly when drunk chicks got naked in the back of the cab. ;D


Emmanuel in Space, Emmanuel in Rome, Emmanuel in Africa...then red shoe diaries on showtime, and real sex on HBO.


:Broncos:

bronco610
05-13-2009, 11:16 PM
I saw "Basic instinct" when I was 7.

I saw it when it first came out in 92 I was 32. It ruined me for women with ice picks.

24champ
05-13-2009, 11:26 PM
Emmanuel in Space, Emmanuel in Rome, Emmanuel in Africa...then red shoe diaries on showtime, and real sex on HBO.


:Broncos:

You forgot Emmanuel in Bangkok and Real Sex on HBO sucked IMO, it just showed old hippies and junkies having sex with strangers.

Archer81
05-13-2009, 11:33 PM
You forgot Emmanuel in Bangkok and Real Sex on HBO sucked IMO, it just showed old hippies and junkies having sex with strangers.


Hence why we went with Emmanuel. That was usually before the horror flicks, so we would see gratuitous sex then watch jason cut a naked chick in the shower in half. Good times.

:Broncos:

ZONA
05-13-2009, 11:41 PM
When young kids watch too much television violence................hahahah

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bronco610
05-13-2009, 11:52 PM
When young kids watch too much television violence................hahahah

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_AJ0SkbPxAk&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_AJ0SkbPxAk&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

God that was a great episode. Now thats something I wouldn't want a kid to see. But it was a great scene.

SonOfLe-loLang
05-14-2009, 12:14 AM
Emmanuel in Space, Emmanuel in Rome, Emmanuel in Africa...then red shoe diaries on showtime, and real sex on HBO.


:Broncos:

I still remember coming home from camp when i was like 12 and finding out there was an emmanuelle marathon for the entire week before school started. I made sure to sneak down stairs every night to watch. Its amazing what a 12 year old boy will sit through just to see a pair of tits and a hairy bush (if i remember Em correctly)

Archer81
05-14-2009, 12:18 AM
I still remember coming home from camp when i was like 12 and finding out there was an emmanuelle marathon for the entire week before school started. I made sure to sneak down stairs every night to watch. Its amazing what a 12 year old boy will sit through just to see a pair of boobies and a hairy bush (if i remember Em correctly)


My motivations were different, but yeah, basically the same deal. Then when I was 14 we got the internet...


:Broncos:

24champ
05-14-2009, 12:30 AM
My motivations were different, but yeah, basically the same deal. Then when I was 14 we got the internet...


:Broncos:

Yeah I hated AOL in the early internet days...

I swear everytime AOL started up, I wanted to kick the damn computer because it could wake up the 'rents.Hilarious!

Taco John
05-14-2009, 12:34 AM
I can totally relate to the concerns in this thread. I am very concerned about the stuff that comes into the house by way of the television, and am thankful that we have a Tivo to control much of it. The beautiful thing is that my son sees virtually zero advertisments.

Taco John
05-14-2009, 12:38 AM
Sticking to the age in question (3 years old), like I said before, I watched Star Wars as a small child. It came out when I was less than a year old. I don't remember how old I was the first time I saw it. I was probably around 3 or 4. It was awesome. I loved it.

If somebody has a problem with Ghostbusters, they'd probably have a problem with Star Wars too, which I find silly.

Come to think of it, I took my son to see Star Wars Episode I in the theater. He had just turned 3 when it came out. He loved it (he really didn't understand that it sucked compared to the other ones.)


I wouldn't have a problem with Star Wars. I would have a problem with Ghostbusters.

Archer81
05-14-2009, 01:06 AM
Yeah I hated AOL in the early internet days...

I swear everytime AOL started up, I wanted to kick the damn computer because it could wake up the 'rents.Hilarious!


YOU GOT MAIL...****...Buddy, why are you up...uhh...homework...right. Homework. at 3 am in July? Go to bed...


:Broncos:

worm
05-14-2009, 01:09 AM
It is a personal choice where you decide to draw the line.

When you put your kid out in the world, you should expect that not everybody following their own personal choice will agree with yours.

Why feel 'livid'? Did you really expect that everybody would agree with you on the evils that is Ghostbusters?

BroncoMan4ever
05-14-2009, 03:22 AM
Emmanuel in Space, Emmanuel in Rome, Emmanuel in Africa...then red shoe diaries on showtime, and real sex on HBO.


:Broncos:

i freaking loved cinemax as a kid. i was lucky. my mom got all the pay channels, and i had cable hooked up in my room. my mom put it in, because i liked the kids shows that HBO used to show in the mornings, unknown to her, was i liked the skinemax showings late night when everyone else was asleep.

i remember, setting up the tv with no volume when i was pretending to go to bed, so that once the door shut and i was supposed to be asleep, i could turn on softcore porn without my mom finding out.

and because my dog slept on my bed and barked at every noise in the house, he was my lookout on when to turn off the tv.

watermock
05-14-2009, 03:38 AM
So your dog was a surrogate lover?

Ha!

BroncoMan4ever
05-14-2009, 03:58 AM
So your dog was a surrogate lover?

Ha!

nope just a lookout. he slept at the foot of my bed. and don't make fun of my dog, he died years ago and even though i have gotten a couple other dogs since then, he remains my favorite. damn dog was my best friend when i was a kid.

rugbythug
05-14-2009, 07:47 AM
Well This Thread kind of Blew up last night.

A. Why do I Let my Kid Watch UFC but not Ghost Busters Or any other "movie".

First off my kids are not sheltered. From Real Life. They will see animals being born and animals die. When our dog dies we will go through this with them. UFC is a sport. They begin touch gloves Fight and end. Usually giving thanks to the other combatant. It is real life and as a boy I want him to understand that he can tackle kids Beat on them in the right situation ie wrestling or Football or protecting himself. Telling him he can not fight or no hitting was what was done to me and made me far to passive in adult life.

Movies are different they pretend to be real life when they are not. Young kids many times can not differentiate between what is Real and what is not. I only allow him limited TV time anyway 4-6 hours per week.

I think that my values are pretty much in line with my Parents and Grandparents. Just because the rest of the world is clamoring to change does not mean that I should. I am striving more for a life in line with biblical values more than anything else. People have mentioned watching porn at young ages. IMO watching porn at all ages is damaging to your sexual relationships. Setting up unreal expectations and literally changing the way people have sex.

ak1971
05-14-2009, 07:51 AM
Had access to cinemax when I turned 11. Ahh, cable TV...


:Broncos:

Does anyone remember trying to see cinemax or the spice channel, when cable first came out? There was a little dial, and if you turned it just right, you gould see through the garbled mess, and maybe catch site of a boob or something :wiggle:

Beantown Bronco
05-14-2009, 07:58 AM
Keep in mind, you're talking about an age of kids that are still afraid of bugs, the dark and being away from their mothers for more than a few minutes.

How old is Bob again?

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 08:14 AM
I wouldn't have a problem with Star Wars. I would have a problem with Ghostbusters.

The point is that there are a number of movies that are safe for kids of all ages that have violence, scary creatures, and adult relationships in them. What about The Neverending Story? Popeye the movie? Willow? I'd put Ghostbusters in with all of those movies as being safe and fun for kids of all ages.

Hell, my parents took me to see Jaws in the movie theater when I was a kid. (Okay, maybe they shouldn't have done that because I didn't want to get in the bath tub after watching that movie ;D).

I'd say that to some degree Ghostbusters was marketed towards kids. They had action figures and they made a cartoon out of it. It's pretty safe for kids. And talking about cartoon's, a lot of those have violence and scary creatures.

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 08:36 AM
My Kids are not Sheltered. But I do control access to everything they watch on TV. On the other hand they are free to fry bugs with a magnifying glass. And when they Turn 12 Each one will get a .22 Rifle.

I am with you on this one rugbythug. I have a 4 year old and a 3 year old. If parents are not filtering the information their kids see/get exposed to, they are failing their kids. I have friends who let their kids watch violent programming and it shows in the kids' behavior. The kids are ultra-aggressive with their buddies and family.

I think there is a natural progession of exposure that parents should facilitate. I will not raise naieve or sheltered kids, but that doesn't mean I am going to indoctorinate them with Terminator movies at the age of 4. There is a lot of great educational and entertaining programming that meets their needs and interests. That's what they should be weatching. Let's be the generation that raises well-rounded, healthy kids that show respect, mind their manners, take their education seriously and work hard to become contributing US citizens...as opposed to a bunch of violent hillbillies who go through live exercising an arrogant sense of entitlement.

For all of you parents-to-be, please reserve commentary until you have kids because you will not believe how much your viewpoint on this changes once kids come along. No good comes out of exposing your children to violent/scary movies at such a young age. You mind find it harmless, but your toddler will have nightmares of ghosts, ghouls, statues that turn into prehistoric dogs and the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. And for you to consider yourselves as "turning out just fine" after watching Rambo at the age of 5, I beleive that is purely a biased opinion since it's YOU that you're weighing in on.

kamakazi_kal
05-14-2009, 08:38 AM
I have a child about to turn 3. I would not have a problem with Ghostbusters .... that was a movie I had seen as a kid. Heck I think they even made a cartoon out of it.

I watch MMA all the time and even practice it when my daughter has been present. IMO that's far more violent then Ghostbusters no matter if it's "real life" or not. How you can find Ghostbusters worse is beyond me.

This is thread based on that show "wife swap" very interesting.

I grew up in the "die hard" "terminator" "aliens" era and loved them all. Now I wouldn't let her watch that stuff ...... yet. :angel:

cousinal11
05-14-2009, 08:44 AM
I have a problem with the people who let your 3-year old son watch a PG rated movie without your consent.

I think you have every right to be po'd about that.

I would not want my daughter watching anything fictional (on a ghost/demon/scary level) until she is at an age when she understands it is fictional.

UFC? No F'n way. I prefer my testicles not hurt.

Tombstone RJ
05-14-2009, 09:17 AM
Does anyone remember trying to see cinemax or the spice channel, when cable first came out? There was a little dial, and if you turned it just right, you gould see through the garbled mess, and maybe catch site of a boob or something :wiggle:

Yep, I was all over that... it was like being a voyuer in your own home... hey, did I just see a nekid chick??

bronco610
05-14-2009, 10:11 AM
I am with you on this one rugbythug. I have a 4 year old and a 3 year old. If parents are not filtering the information their kids see/get exposed to, they are failing their kids. I have friends who let their kids watch violent programming and it shows in the kids' behavior. The kids are ultra-aggressive with their buddies and family.

I think there is a natural progession of exposure that parents should facilitate. I will not raise naieve or sheltered kids, but that doesn't mean I am going to indoctorinate them with Terminator movies at the age of 4. There is a lot of great educational and entertaining programming that meets their needs and interests. That's what they should be weatching. Let's be the generation that raises well-rounded, healthy kids that show respect, mind their manners, take their education seriously and work hard to become contributing US citizens...as opposed to a bunch of violent hillbillies who go through live exercising an arrogant sense of entitlement.

For all of you parents-to-be, please reserve commentary until you have kids because you will not believe how much your viewpoint on this changes once kids come along. No good comes out of exposing your children to violent/scary movies at such a young age. You mind find it harmless, but your toddler will have nightmares of ghosts, ghouls, statues that turn into prehistoric dogs and the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. And for you to consider yourselves as "turning out just fine" after watching Rambo at the age of 5, I beleive that is purely a biased opinion since it's YOU that you're weighing in on.

No, I have already raised mine. They are fine and no drugs, criminals or women beaters.

OOJack
05-14-2009, 10:17 AM
My Kids are not Sheltered. But I do control access to everything they watch on TV. On the other hand they are free to fry bugs with a magnifying glass. And when they Turn 12 Each one will get a .22 Rifle.

Wow, you're teaching your kids to kill defenseless living things, yet you believe watching GB is more damaging to them? You are an idiot.

rugbythug
05-14-2009, 10:18 AM
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No, I have already raised mine. They are fine and no drugs, criminals or women beaters.

Not Really Setting the bar very high are you.

rugbythug
05-14-2009, 10:21 AM
Wow, you're teaching your kids to kill defenseless living things, yet you believe watching GB is more damaging to them? You are an idiot.

You are a fool if you think you know me from posts on the OrangeMane. I have not taught my child how to burn ants. He will have to figure it out for himself like any other boy.

bronco610
05-14-2009, 10:27 AM
Not Really Setting the bar very high are you.

I am not sure what you mean in this case. When you get done succesfully raising your kids thru everything life throws at them then you can talk. No criminal records, no drug use, treat the opposite sex correctly and fairly. Yes I would say that is a sucess. If you mean are they rich or the President of the U.S., no. They are what they wanted to be, not what I wanted them to be. That is sucessfully raising your children. Good luck to you.

bombay
05-14-2009, 10:28 AM
I have a problem with the people who let your 3-year old son watch a PG rated movie without your consent.

I think you have every right to be po'd about that.

I would not want my daughter watching anything fictional (on a ghost/demon/scary level) until she is at an age when she understands it is fictional.
UFC? No F'n way. I prefer my testicles not hurt.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETs7fuJWtVs

OOJack
05-14-2009, 10:31 AM
You are a fool if you think you know me from posts on the OrangeMane. I have not taught my child how to burn ants. He will have to figure it out for himself like any other boy.

You don't have to know someone to know they are an idiot, or psycho dad for that matter. Condoning the killing of defenseless living things is just as bad as showing your kid how to do it. You have to realize that, right?

azbroncfan
05-14-2009, 10:33 AM
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No, I have already raised mine. They are fine and no drugs, criminals or women beaters.

Waiting for 12 for first .22 that is awhile. I got my first 12 ga and a 30-30 for deer hunting then. I had a bow at 3, pellet gun at 5, .22 and .410 when I was around 8. We had a ton of land and that is what I did was went out and hunted birds and other pests. The bow and arrow was my weapon of choice as a young man. I don't think you should use age as the barometer but it is the parents responsibility to see what a child can handle and where they are during their growth developement.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 10:36 AM
I am with you on this one rugbythug. I have a 4 year old and a 3 year old. If parents are not filtering the information their kids see/get exposed to, they are failing their kids. I have friends who let their kids watch violent programming and it shows in the kids' behavior. The kids are ultra-aggressive with their buddies and family.

I think there is a natural progession of exposure that parents should facilitate. I will not raise naieve or sheltered kids, but that doesn't mean I am going to indoctorinate them with Terminator movies at the age of 4. There is a lot of great educational and entertaining programming that meets their needs and interests. That's what they should be weatching. Let's be the generation that raises well-rounded, healthy kids that show respect, mind their manners, take their education seriously and work hard to become contributing US citizens...as opposed to a bunch of violent hillbillies who go through live exercising an arrogant sense of entitlement.

For all of you parents-to-be, please reserve commentary until you have kids because you will not believe how much your viewpoint on this changes once kids come along. No good comes out of exposing your children to violent/scary movies at such a young age. You mind find it harmless, but your toddler will have nightmares of ghosts, ghouls, statues that turn into prehistoric dogs and the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. And for you to consider yourselves as "turning out just fine" after watching Rambo at the age of 5, I beleive that is purely a biased opinion since it's YOU that you're weighing in on.

Nobody is making the argument that we shouldn't filter out certain movies to kids. Nobody has said that it's okay to show a 3 year old Terminator. We're talking about Ghostbusters here. Major difference.

The point people are making is that it is silly to draw the line at a movie like Ghostbusters. Filter out Terminator, but not Ghostbusters.

When my son was about 8, one of his aunts spent the night at our place. She was about 18. She was watching Scarface with my son. Now that's something to be furious about. That's a movie that needs to be filtered out. I was pissed about that one.

As for me weighing in on me. College grad. I obey the laws, so I'm not worried about being arrested. I perform community service. I go into classrooms a couple times a month and talk to kids about my career, and encourage them to go to college. Most of the classes I'm in are in bad areas. The teachers love it when I go and talk to the kids. I watched all those movies as a child, and I can honestly say that I turned out well.

Br0nc0Buster
05-14-2009, 10:37 AM
I think that my values are pretty much in line with my Parents and Grandparents. Just because the rest of the world is clamoring to change does not mean that I should. I am striving more for a life in line with biblical values more than anything else. People have mentioned watching porn at young ages. IMO watching porn at all ages is damaging to your sexual relationships. Setting up unreal expectations and literally changing the way people have sex.

lol I knew it
Good luck teaching your children how to live by Bronze age morals.

Mogulseeker
05-14-2009, 10:38 AM
My friend Chris was raised in a very strict evangelical home. He was over at my house as kids and we were watching Mission:Impossible. His mom walked in during the scene where John Voight staged his own death, and is walking around with blood on his hands saying into the camera "help me Ethan".

I was in so much trouble with another kids parents.

It happened again later with The Cable Guy.

They wouldn't let him go to college because they were afraid of the whole exposure thing.

He went goth and does crack now.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 10:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETs7fuJWtVs

That's not because of the movies, that's just bad parenting.

bronco610
05-14-2009, 10:39 AM
Nobody is making the argument that we shouldn't filter out certain movies to kids. Nobody has said that it's okay to show a 3 year old Terminator. We're talking about Ghostbusters here. Major difference.

The point people are making is that it is silly to draw the line at a movie like Ghostbusters. Filter out Terminator, but not Ghostbusters.

When my son was about 8, one of his aunts spent the night at our place. She was about 18. She was watching Scarface with my son. Now that's something to be furious about. That's a movie that needs to be filtered out. I was pissed about that one.

As for me weighing in on me. College grad. I obey the laws, so I'm not worried about being arrested. I perform community service. I go into classrooms a couple times a month and talk to kids about my career, and encourage them to go to college. Most of the classes I'm in are in bad areas. The teachers love it when I go and talk to the kids. I watched all those movies as a child, and I can honestly say that I turned out well.

Yes, but what dbfan is saying is how you turned out is not relavant.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 10:43 AM
lol I knew it
Good luck teaching your children how to live by Bronze age morals.

Yeah, that does explain a lot. But I will say that most people who believe in God, including myself, would think he's going way too far.

OOJack
05-14-2009, 10:45 AM
lol I knew it
Good luck teaching your children how to live by Bronze age morals.

No $hit, now it all makes sense...

bronco610
05-14-2009, 10:48 AM
Actually, the one thing I know for sure. If you want to piss some one off.....tell them how to raise their kids, or when they ask for advice give it to them.

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 10:48 AM
oh my......

when the **** does training camp start???

Ghostbuster really **** me

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 10:49 AM
I taught my little girl(2) to say "Nobody puts Baby in a corner". My wife didn't think it was funny when she told my daughter to go to a timeout.

And by the way. You are the ****ing man Ha!

^5

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 10:54 AM
Does anyone remember trying to see cinemax or the spice channel, when cable first came out? There was a little dial, and if you turned it just right, you gould see through the garbled mess, and maybe catch site of a boob or something :wiggle:

LMAO I do remember that.

Now we are worried about ghost busters

DHallblows
05-14-2009, 10:55 AM
lol I knew it
Good luck teaching your children how to live by Bronze age morals.

I just assumed that for this guy...

fido
05-14-2009, 10:55 AM
lol I knew it
Good luck teaching your children how to live by Bronze age morals.

Somewhat agree with you here....the problem with people teaching their kids to live by the bible......just look at the middle east......jmo......fanatics.....you don't believe like me so i will kill you.....yep good stuff in the bible/koran/torah....it's amazing that we as a race can even reach for the stars when you look at the history of religion and the sheer amount of crap...better stop here ;D

OOJack
05-14-2009, 10:56 AM
LMAO I do remember that.

Now we are worried about ghost busters

HAHAHAHA, I did that too! Hilarious!

Beantown Bronco
05-14-2009, 10:58 AM
I have friends who let their kids watch violent programming and it shows in the kids' behavior. The kids are ultra-aggressive with their buddies and family.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you are not nearly qualified to make that conclusion.

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 10:59 AM
Problem is we are becoming a bunch of ****ing pussys

Just like at my sons field day. Everyone gets a ribbon wtf.

In lowwer little league baseball the motto was "everyone plays" **** that **** if you suck at sports do something else.

We are teaching our kids that everyone is a winner. That is a bold faced ****ing lie. I dont want my son getting out of school expecting to be on a level playing surface with everyone else. You better be willing to work if you want to succeed.

Ugh ghostbusters **** me :nono:

HAT
05-14-2009, 11:02 AM
I refuse to let my kids watch Spongebob or simpsons. I relent on Hanna Montana but Zack and Cody are about to be cut out. I think these tween shows are getting too old for the tweeners.

My 5-1/2 YO daughter has been watching Spongebob with me for a year. Her mom hates it.

As a result of watching SBSP on Nick, she started liking ICarly, Drake & Josh, HM, etc. We were both okay with those until we both started noticing her turning into a little smart ass. She is no longer allowed to watch the live action kid shows but I still let her watch SBSP and her mom still hates it.

Spongebob is every bit as sarcastic as the kids on the live action shows but my daughter gets that it's cartoon sarcasm and cartoon violence and it doesn't come out in her personality like it was starting to with the other shows.

Now she just watches Nicktoon or Noggin...No more Disney Channel or regular Nick.

As far as the OP goes...I don't think I'd want her watching GB until 7 or 8. Certainly not at 3. Would probably feel different if she was a he.

bronco610
05-14-2009, 11:06 AM
Problem is we are becoming a bunch of ****ing p***Ys
Just like at my sons field day. Everyone gets a ribbon wtf.

In lowwer little league baseball the motto was "everyone plays" **** that **** if you suck at sports do something else.

We are teaching our kids that everyone is a winner. That is a bold faced ****ing lie. I dont want my son getting out of school expecting to be on a level playing surface with everyone else. You better be willing to work if you want to succeed.

Ugh ghostbusters **** me :nono:

Definetly part of the problem. Not what the original post was about but certainly what I think part of the problem is.

On the other hand tell some father how bad his kid sucks at sports and see what happens.:wave:

Archer81
05-14-2009, 11:11 AM
Does anyone remember trying to see cinemax or the spice channel, when cable first came out? There was a little dial, and if you turned it just right, you gould see through the garbled mess, and maybe catch site of a boob or something :wiggle:


Dude...

We had Spice Channel come through 100% clear for 6 months until my mom found out and had them "fix" it. Even my dad seemed upset about that one.

:Broncos:

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 11:12 AM
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Definetly part of the problem. Not what the original post was about but certainly what I think part of the problem is.

On the other hand tell some father how bad his kid sucks at sports and see what happens.:wave:

I disagree. The idea that watching Ghost busters should make a parent go insane is exactly the problem. We are coddling these little ****ers. Makeing the future generations soft and prime for the picking.

Archer81
05-14-2009, 11:15 AM
Wow, you're teaching your kids to kill defenseless living things, yet you believe watching GB is more damaging to them? You are an idiot.


A kid being taught how to use a gun doesnt automatically mean they are going to hunt "defenseless" living things. Get a grip susie.

:Broncos:

bronco610
05-14-2009, 11:17 AM
I disagree. The idea that watching Ghost busters should make a parent go insane is exactly the problem. We are coddling these little ****ers. Makeing the future generations soft and prime for the picking.

Like I said earlier... want to piss him off? Give him advice when he asks for it.
^5

24champ
05-14-2009, 11:17 AM
Dude...

We had Spice Channel come through 100% clear for 6 months until my mom found out and had them "fix" it. Even my dad seemed upset about that one.

:Broncos:

Adam and Eve was a good series.:rofl:

Archer81
05-14-2009, 11:17 AM
Problem is we are becoming a bunch of ****ing p***Ys

Just like at my sons field day. Everyone gets a ribbon wtf.

In lowwer little league baseball the motto was "everyone plays" **** that **** if you suck at sports do something else.

We are teaching our kids that everyone is a winner. That is a bold faced ****ing lie. I dont want my son getting out of school expecting to be on a level playing surface with everyone else. You better be willing to work if you want to succeed.

Ugh ghostbusters **** me :nono:


I agree with this post. I never understood parents when I was growng up that would tell us its not about winning, its about having a good time. No one has a good time when we lose, so thats just BS.

:Broncos:

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 11:23 AM
Like I said earlier... want to piss him off? Give him advice when he asks for it.
^5

Why would anyone have to tell him? Cant he see his son is not on the field or when he is sucks it up.

There is nothing wrong with a kid not being good at sports. What is wrong is making them think they are. If you suck you either A) find something else you like and are good at or B) work harder to make yourself better.

B is the one that worries me. We are not pushing kids to become better. Just run out there little jimmy and dont worry that you cant catch, throw or bat we are all winners here and will have milk and cookies once we are done pretending to play ball.

Tombstone RJ
05-14-2009, 11:31 AM
My friend Chris was raised in a very strict evangelical home. He was over at my house as kids and we were watching Mission:Impossible. His mom walked in during the scene where John Voight staged his own death, and is walking around with blood on his hands saying into the camera "help me Ethan".

I was in so much trouble with another kids parents.

It happened again later with The Cable Guy.

They wouldn't let him go to college because they were afraid of the whole exposure thing.

He went goth and does crack now.

Ya know, this is why communication is so important between parents and kids. Obviously, this kid was raised in a strick environment and if his parents did not explain their reasoning behind trying to shelter him, then all he's gonna do is rebell. Now, he's probably the parent's worst nightmare.

Being in a sheltered home is just fine. But if you don't explain very carefully and reasonably why you don't want your child to see something or do something, then it could just backfire.

I think in time this kid will probably see the light. He's gonna have to make a lot of mistakes, but he'll probably understand his parents the older he gets. Too bad it has to happen this way...

rugbythug
05-14-2009, 11:34 AM
Why would anyone have to tell him? Cant he see his son is not on the field or when he is sucks it up.

There is nothing wrong with a kid not being good at sports. What is wrong is making them think they are. If you suck you either A) find something else you like and are good at or B) work harder to make yourself better.

B is the one that worries me. We are not pushing kids to become better. Just run out there little jimmy and dont worry that you cant catch, throw or bat we are all winners here and will have milk and cookies once we are done pretending to play ball.

Pre Middle school I think everyone should play. ALthough score should be kept. If the sports is really for the kids then let the kids play. If you have to only win. Then it is not about the kids its about you.

rugbythug
05-14-2009, 11:36 AM
Gotta love the Christian Bashers. Because my Right and Wrong is solid and not tied to some twisting amorphous thing I am a weirdo. Think about it. If in 150 years society decided that it was ok for you to force yourself on a woman you would now be ok with that?

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 11:39 AM
Pre Middle school I think everyone should play. ALthough score should be kept. If the sports is really for the kids then let the kids play. If you have to only win. Then it is not about the kids its about you.

Its not about winning or losing the little league kickball championship. It is about not lying to your kids. We are teaching them the world is fair and we are all winners. No effort needed.

**** that it is never to early to understand that everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Play/live to your strengths and work hard on your weaknesses.

Archer81
05-14-2009, 11:40 AM
My dad's sister used to be very specific in what we could watch and not watch when we would go to visit. In fact I got to watch alot of religious themed programming. The worst it ever got was when they were visiting us, and my brothers and I were watching Ghostbusters II, and she shut it off because it was teaching us the "wrong" things. Being 13 or so, in revenge I played Mortal Kombat II in front of my cousins until my mom said to stop being a wise ass.

:Broncos:

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 11:41 AM
Nobody is making the argument that we shouldn't filter out certain movies to kids. Nobody has said that it's okay to show a 3 year old Terminator. We're talking about Ghostbusters here. Major difference.

The point people are making is that it is silly to draw the line at a movie like Ghostbusters. Filter out Terminator, but not Ghostbusters.

When my son was about 8, one of his aunts spent the night at our place. She was about 18. She was watching Scarface with my son. Now that's something to be furious about. That's a movie that needs to be filtered out. I was pissed about that one.

As for me weighing in on me. College grad. I obey the laws, so I'm not worried about being arrested. I perform community service. I go into classrooms a couple times a month and talk to kids about my career, and encourage them to go to college. Most of the classes I'm in are in bad areas. The teachers love it when I go and talk to the kids. I watched all those movies as a child, and I can honestly say that I turned out well.

All I am saying is that a movie like Ghostbusters can scare YOUNG children. A parent is free to do whatever they like, but the parent should get into the habit of taking a step back and asking the question, "COULD this movie/TV show be harmful for my toddler?". Ghosts and ghouls are a bit extreme for a 3-year old. For an 8-year old?...Probably not. I'd probably let an 8-year old watch Ghostbusters.

And I am glad you turned out so well, Jason. :D

OABB
05-14-2009, 11:41 AM
three words.


Post. Feminist. America.


we are creating a generation of pussies.

and it is a much bigger deal than many would like to admit.

Archer81
05-14-2009, 11:43 AM
three words.


Post. Feminist. America.


we are creating a generation of pussies.

and it is a much bigger deal than many would like to admit.


Whats funny is you post this and you have the poster boy for post feminist America n your avatar...LOL.


:Broncos:

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Somewhat agree with you here....the problem with people teaching their kids to live by the bible......just look at the middle east......jmo......fanatics.....you don't believe like me so i will kill you.....yep good stuff in the bible/koran/torah....it's amazing that we as a race can even reach for the stars when you look at the history of religion and the sheer amount of crap...better stop here ;D

LOL I take it you've read the Bible cover to cover to make a statement like that. I must have missed something somewhere in the book. Help me out by referencing a few verses where Jesus killed people for not believing his teachings. That'd be a HUGE help. Thanks man.

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you are not nearly qualified to make that conclusion.

I am going to go out on a limb and say the same thing about you.

kamakazi_kal
05-14-2009, 11:47 AM
three words.


Post. Feminist. America.


we are creating a generation of pussies.

and it is a much bigger deal than many would like to admit.

Conan hates Feminist America!! That was my favorite movie as a kid!!

OABB
05-14-2009, 11:48 AM
Whats funny is you post this and you have the poster boy for post feminist America n your avatar...LOL.


:Broncos:

He is scarred from watching Ghostbusters as a kid.

Archer81
05-14-2009, 11:49 AM
He is scarred from watching Ghostbusters as a kid.


That would explain it. Poor lil fella...


:Broncos:

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 11:50 AM
He is scarred from watching Ghostbusters as a kid.

LOL

Beantown Bronco
05-14-2009, 11:52 AM
I am going to go out on a limb and say the same thing about you.

Nope, but the people that are qualified have done numerous studies and have concluded that there is no link between violent tv and violence in real life.

fido
05-14-2009, 11:54 AM
fanaticism of all stripes is wrong. fundamentalism in religious (sp) circles should scare the crap out of everyone. not christian bashing, just the unvarnished truth that one faith is better than another is wrong and dangerous. one would hope that we would have grown beyond that....sadly, this is not true.

Grumps
05-14-2009, 11:54 AM
I think a lot of people are confusing age groups. There is a big difference in 8 and 3. My daughter is 3 and I wouldn't find it appropriate to watch GB. I don't find it appropriate to watch much of anything at 3. She gets about 1 hr a day to watch TV (usually Dora and Mickey Mouse). I find no reason to let her watch more than that at her age.

I am also curious as to who around here actually has kids. My views were similar to a lot of the posts here before I had a kid. Now, it has even made me change the shows that I watch when she is around.

bronco610
05-14-2009, 11:54 AM
three words.


Post. Feminist. America.


we are creating a generation of pussies.

and it is a much bigger deal than many would like to admit.

True but be careful who you tell. You could get labeled as a redneck hillbilly.

fido
05-14-2009, 11:55 AM
LOL I take it you've read the Bible cover to cover to make a statement like that. I must have missed something somewhere in the book. Help me out by referencing a few verses where Jesus killed people for not believing his teachings. That'd be a HUGE help. Thanks man.

acutally, former minister in the southern baptist faith

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 11:56 AM
I think a lot of people are confusing age groups. There is a big difference in 8 and 3. My daughter is 3 and I wouldn't find it appropriate to watch GB. I don't find it appropriate to watch much of anything at 3. She gets about 1 hr a day to watch TV (usually Dora and Mickey Mouse). I find no reason to let her watch more than that at her age.

I am also curious as to who around here actually has kids. My views were similar to a lot of the posts here before I had a kid. Now, it has even made me change the shows that I watch when she is around.

Dora is a horrible choice IMHO

Grumps
05-14-2009, 11:58 AM
Dora is a horrible choice IMHO

Well, if they go forward with the new version of Dora then I agree.

Archer81
05-14-2009, 12:00 PM
Well...lets sum up.

Fanatacism is wrong.
Dora is horrible.
SBSP teaches kids how to be gay smartasses
Spice Channel did not come in clearly for alot of people
AOL got alot of us busted
Ghostbusters is too much for the Dawson

:Broncos:

bronco610
05-14-2009, 12:01 PM
I think a lot of people are confusing age groups. There is a big difference in 8 and 3. My daughter is 3 and I wouldn't find it appropriate to watch GB. I don't find it appropriate to watch much of anything at 3. She gets about 1 hr a day to watch TV (usually Dora and Mickey Mouse). I find no reason to let her watch more than that at her age.

I am also curious as to who around here actually has kids. My views were similar to a lot of the posts here before I had a kid. Now, it has even made me change the shows that I watch when she is around.

I have kids, they are adults now. My sons grew up watching superfriends, reruns of bugs bunny road runner and the like. You make a good point as to not letting a three year old watch t.v. However, the kid was over at someone elses house when when GB was viewed. How about don't send the kid over into the real world if you are worried about it.

fido
05-14-2009, 12:03 PM
Well...lets sum up.

Fanatacism is wrong.
Dora is horrible.
SBSP teaches kids how to be gay smartasses
Spice Channel did not come in clearly for alot of people
AOL got alot of us busted
Ghostbusters is too much for the Dawson

:Broncos:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: !Booya!

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 12:04 PM
I think the best idea is to just wrap your children in bubble wrap and lock them in a closet.

Grumps
05-14-2009, 12:04 PM
However, the kid was over at someone elses house when when GB was viewed. How about don't send the kid over into the real world if you are worried about it.

That is a good point and probably the bottom line.

24champ
05-14-2009, 12:04 PM
Well...lets sum up.

Fanatacism is wrong.
Dora is horrible.
SBSP teaches kids how to be gay smartasses
Spice Channel did not come in clearly for alot of people
AOL got alot of us busted
Ghostbusters is too much for the Dawson
Emmanuel marathons were fun to watch.
:Broncos:

You forgot one. :approve:

Archer81
05-14-2009, 12:06 PM
You forgot one. :approve:


Yes I did. HAHAHA.

:Broncos:

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:09 PM
acutally, former minister in the southern baptist faith

Awesome. Then that would really qualify you to cite specific examples of Jesus killing people who didn't believe his teachings. I am not trying to pick a fight...just curious to see where in the Bible it says that.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:12 PM
Think about it. If in 150 years society decided that it was ok for you to force yourself on a woman you would now be ok with that?

That's an extreme point. It's so extreme that it doesn't fit the debate at hand.

Beantown Bronco
05-14-2009, 12:13 PM
Awesome. Then that would really qualify you to cite specific examples of Jesus killing people who didn't believe his teachings. I am not trying to pick a fight...just curious to see where in the Bible it says that.

God kept all the fun for himself during the Old Testament when he killed thousands. He didn't let Jesus play.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:15 PM
All I am saying is that a movie like Ghostbusters can scare YOUNG children. A parent is free to do whatever they like, but the parent should get into the habit of taking a step back and asking the question, "COULD this movie/TV show be harmful for my toddler?". Ghosts and ghouls are a bit extreme for a 3-year old. For an 8-year old?...Probably not. I'd probably let an 8-year old watch Ghostbusters.

And I am glad you turned out so well, Jason. :D

So can Star Wars. I loved that movie when I was 3 years old. My son loved it when he was three. We can come up with a number of movies along those lines that are perfectly acceptable for 3 year olds to watch.

fido
05-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Awesome. Then that would really qualify you to cite specific examples of Jesus killing people who didn't believe his teachings. I am not trying to pick a fight...just curious to see where in the Bible it says that.

the bible is rife with conflict and sex.....or are you one of those that just dispell the old testament?

TailgateNut
05-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Trust me they know.

I Also let him watch sports like UFC.


Wonderful!Hilarious!

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Nope, but the people that are qualified have done numerous studies and have concluded that there is no link between violent tv and violence in real life.

So when I witness a 3 year old hitting another 3 year old with a stick (in which he claims is a lightsaber), this is not a result of watching a Star Wars movie? If not, then where did he get that idea from?

Kids imitate what they see on TV. They are little sponges and they understand much more than many people give them credit for. I just think that there are better alternatives for YOUNG kids than violent and/or scary programming.

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:18 PM
the bible is rife with conflict and sex.....or are you one of those that just dispell the old testament?

No. I follow the Old Testament. And I know there's conflict in the OT. There's conflict in the NT as well.

I just want to know where in the Bible does it say that Jesus killed someone for being a non-believer. That's all.

24champ
05-14-2009, 12:18 PM
Epic Thread.

Going from whining about Ghostbusters to Skinemax discussion to Bible talk.

Inkana7
05-14-2009, 12:20 PM
It's the kids who aren't allowed to watch Ghostbusters as a kid who don't have any friends in high school.

Just sayin'.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:20 PM
Pre Middle school I think everyone should play. ALthough score should be kept. If the sports is really for the kids then let the kids play. If you have to only win. Then it is not about the kids its about you.

I don't have a problem with rules that allows every kid to play. The only way a kid is going to get better is if he or she plays. But I do have a problem with rules that gives everybody equal play. The better kids get to play more. That's just how it is, and there is nothing wrong with that. If a kid wants more playing time, he better work for it. He better get better to help the team. On some level it is about getting all the kids out there to play, but at the same time, on some level it is about winning. The kid that works harder should be rewarded.

Plus it prepares the kids for high school sports. On that level if you suck you don't play.

OABB
05-14-2009, 12:20 PM
So when I witness a 3 year old hitting another 3 year old with a stick (in which he claims is a lightsaber), this is not a result of watching a Star Wars movie? If not, then where did he get that idea from?

Kids imitate what they see on TV. They are little sponges and they understand much more than many people give them credit for. I just think that there are better alternatives for YOUNG kids than violent and/or scary programming.

It comes from Man's natural inclination to fight. If it wasn't a lightsaber it would only be some other made up weapon. The truth is, blaming it on movies is not only missing the point, but taking away from something very innate.

Violence is not a bad thing, it is subjective, and this pussy society trying to control outside influences is only creating generations of confused people who are being denied what and who they are for the purpose of some scared, reactionary agenda.

What would be healthy is to let children express this very human feeling in a constructive manner like martial arts or sports that are more physical.

Otherwise they are shielded, misguided and ultimately resentful when they grow up.

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:21 PM
God kept all the fun for himself during the Old Testament when he killed thousands. He didn't let Jesus play.

LOL God killed all of those people because they let their kids watch Terminiator and The Shining. I'm not getting into a theological battle with you today. I simply asked fido to back up his claim....that's it.

fido
05-14-2009, 12:23 PM
God kept all the fun for himself during the Old Testament when he killed thousands. He didn't let Jesus play.

but, but, but,,,.......anyhow some don't like this aspect of the bible.....and my opinions are mine. learned some hard lessons on belief systems and how others take 'god' and what they are willing to do for 'him'. after 23 years as a soldier, and a vet, you learn about humans' ability to do some horrific things to each other, all in the name of 'god'...all because someone has a different belief.......so truly sad.

Beantown Bronco
05-14-2009, 12:23 PM
So when I witness a 3 year old hitting another 3 year old with a stick (in which he claims is a lightsaber), this is not a result of watching a Star Wars movie? If not, then where did he get that idea from?

Kids imitate what they see on TV. They are little sponges and they understand much more than many people give them credit for. I just think that there are better alternatives for YOUNG kids than violent and/or scary programming.

You're missing the point. The violent or passive behavior of the kid doesn't change because of tv. Sure, he imitates Star Wars in that example. But if it wasn't a light saber, it would be something else. It would be a sword or gun or magic wand. Who knows?

Kids imitate things, but they don't become more or less aggressive because of a movie or tv show. Passive kids imitate passive behaviors they see on tv and aggressive kids imitate agressive things they see on tv.

If that particular kid never saw Star Wars, it's not like he's all of a sudden going to sit in a corner by himself and read a book instead of going out to play cowboys and indians or whatever on a nice day.

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:24 PM
It comes from Man's natural inclination to fight. If it wasn't a lightsaber it would only be some other made up weapon. The truth is, blaming it on movies is not only missing the point, but taking away from something very innate.

Violence is not a bad thing, it is subjective, and this p***Y society trying to control outside influences is only creating generations of confused people who are being denied what and who they are for the purpose of some scared, reactionary agenda.

What would be healthy is to let children express this very human feeling in a constructive manner like martial arts or sports that are more physical.

Otherwise they are shielded, misguided and ultimately resentful when they grow up.

Thanks for your contribution. That clears it all up, doctor. By the way, when you use the term "pussy society", are you referring to the people who kill their whole family and then themselves because they can't handle the trials that life presents?

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:25 PM
I think a lot of people are confusing age groups. There is a big difference in 8 and 3. My daughter is 3 and I wouldn't find it appropriate to watch GB. I don't find it appropriate to watch much of anything at 3. She gets about 1 hr a day to watch TV (usually Dora and Mickey Mouse). I find no reason to let her watch more than that at her age.

I am also curious as to who around here actually has kids. My views were similar to a lot of the posts here before I had a kid. Now, it has even made me change the shows that I watch when she is around.

I have a 13 year old son. When he was 3 I took him to see Star Wars, which is along the same lines as Ghostbusters. He loved it. He's turning out just fine.

OABB
05-14-2009, 12:25 PM
Awesome. Then that would really qualify you to cite specific examples of Jesus killing people who didn't believe his teachings. I am not trying to pick a fight...just curious to see where in the Bible it says that.

Jesus turned his non believers into dark skinned indians and forced them to live in Utah.

way worse than killing IMO.

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 12:25 PM
So when I witness a 3 year old hitting another 3 year old with a stick (in which he claims is a lightsaber), this is not a result of watching a Star Wars movie? If not, then where did he get that idea from?

Kids imitate what they see on TV. They are little sponges and they understand much more than many people give them credit for. I just think that there are better alternatives for YOUNG kids than violent and/or scary programming.

The 3 year old getting his ass whipped is learning a valuable life lesson.

OABB
05-14-2009, 12:26 PM
Thanks for your contribution. That clears it all up, doctor. By the way, when you use the term "p***Y society", are you referring to the people who kill their whole family and then themselves because they can't handle the trials that life presents?

especially them. oh, and you too.

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 12:26 PM
I don't have a problem with rules that allows every kid to play. The only way a kid is going to get better is if he or she plays. But I do have a problem with rules that gives everybody equal play. The better kids get to play more. That's just how it is, and there is nothing wrong with that. If a kid wants more playing time, he better work for it. He better get better to help the team. On some level it is about getting all the kids out there to play, but at the same time, on some level it is about winning. The kid that works harder should be rewarded.

Plus it prepares the kids for high school sports. On that level if you suck you don't play.

Thank You

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:27 PM
I have a 13 year old son. When he was 3 I took him to see Star Wars, which is along the same lines as Ghostbusters. He loved it. He's turning out just fine.

Oh just wait. 14 is the perfect age for the Emperor to turn him to the drak side. :welcome: Just playing man! I'm sure he will be fine.

Inkana7
05-14-2009, 12:28 PM
Overprotecting kids is hurting them. It's why the kids who are kept inside from the dangers of nature end up having asthma. Dirt is actually good for you. Being overprotective just doesn't prepare your children for the real world and will actually hurt them.

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:28 PM
especially them. oh, and you too.

Hilarious! You rock! Does your mommy know you're on the internet again?

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 12:29 PM
Thanks for your contribution. That clears it all up, doctor. By the way, when you use the term "p***Y society", are you referring to the people who kill their whole family and then themselves because they can't handle the trials that life presents?

Maybe if the family was not big old pussys they would have had been packing heat.

Inkana7
05-14-2009, 12:29 PM
Hilarious! You rock! Does your mommy know you're on the internet again?

Are you going to let your kids on the internet? Or might they learn too much?

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:30 PM
So when I witness a 3 year old hitting another 3 year old with a stick (in which he claims is a lightsaber), this is not a result of watching a Star Wars movie? If not, then where did he get that idea from?

Kids imitate what they see on TV. They are little sponges and they understand much more than many people give them credit for. I just think that there are better alternatives for YOUNG kids than violent and/or scary programming.

I'm sure little kids were hitting each other with sticks before movies were ever made. Some things are just innate.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:31 PM
Epic Thread.

Going from whining about Ghostbusters to Skinemax discussion to Bible talk.

This thread is getting me through my morning. ;D

OABB
05-14-2009, 12:32 PM
Hilarious! You rock! Does your mommy know you're on the internet again?

Nope. She's dead. I pulled out her trachea with my bare hands. I tried to tell you they would grow up resentful.

Your mom however knows I'm on the internet, because she keeps IMing me picts of her old worn out vagina.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:33 PM
It comes from Man's natural inclination to fight. If it wasn't a lightsaber it would only be some other made up weapon. The truth is, blaming it on movies is not only missing the point, but taking away from something very innate.

Violence is not a bad thing, it is subjective, and this p***Y society trying to control outside influences is only creating generations of confused people who are being denied what and who they are for the purpose of some scared, reactionary agenda.

What would be healthy is to let children express this very human feeling in a constructive manner like martial arts or sports that are more physical.

Otherwise they are shielded, misguided and ultimately resentful when they grow up.

Damn, beat me to the point. ;D

Grumps
05-14-2009, 12:34 PM
I have a 13 year old son. When he was 3 I took him to see Star Wars, which is along the same lines as Ghostbusters. He loved it. He's turning out just fine.

Good for you and good for him. To each his own.

I highly doubt the OPs kid will be warped because he watched GB. Just as I wasn't when I watched the Star Wars movies as a kid. I, personally, just believe that there are more creative ways to spend time with your kid at that age than watching the tube. But that is just my opinion and choice for my kid and how I choose to raise her. How other parents raise their kids is up to them.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 12:35 PM
The 3 year old getting his ass whipped is learning a valuable life lesson.

LMAO!!!

azbroncfan
05-14-2009, 12:36 PM
three words.


Post. Feminist. America.


we are creating a generation of pussies.

and it is a much bigger deal than many would like to admit.

It's just the sensitive Euro-fruitification of the USA. I have to agree.

Bronx33
05-14-2009, 12:36 PM
I'm sure little kids were hitting each other with sticks before movies were ever made. Some things are just innate.


Yep kids will be kids sadly some folks frown upon that and try to take it away and if you ask me when you try and hide stuff and shield your kid he/she will be 10 times more likely to do stuff behind your back cause all their friends were not kept in a closet. Parents don't give enough credit to their kids to deal with stuff and handle it themselves and take every action as a direct result of something they watched on TV or heard on a record. If the stove is hot and you tell your kid it's hot and he/she don't believe you ( let em f***** touch it) :thumbs:

DenverBroncosJM
05-14-2009, 12:37 PM
My Kids are not Sheltered. But I do control access to everything they watch on TV. On the other hand they are free to fry bugs with a magnifying glass. And when they Turn 12 Each one will get a .22 Rifle.



Isnt aggression towards little bugs bothering you!?

OABB
05-14-2009, 12:40 PM
Isnt aggression towards little bugs bothering you!?

If those bugs were giant Marshmellows it would!

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:46 PM
Nope. She's dead. I pulled out her trachea with my bare hands. I tried to tell you they would grow up resentful.

Your mom however knows I'm on the internet, because she keeps IMing me picts of her old worn out vagina.

Sorry about that. I will be sure to call and tell her to stop doing that. You gotta admit, though...you did get a little stiff looking at her old, worn out vag.

OABB
05-14-2009, 12:47 PM
:) :~ohyah!: Sorry about that. I will be sure to call and tell her to stop doing that. You gotta admit, though...you did get a little stiff looking at her old, worn out vag.

before I wore it out, maybe.:~ohyah!:

dbfan21
05-14-2009, 12:49 PM
before I wore it out, maybe.

Hilarious!

24champ
05-14-2009, 12:51 PM
*NSFW*

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Boobs McGee
05-14-2009, 01:05 PM
wow I haven't laughed this much in a long time....you guys are all ****ing HILARIOUS!!! keep em coming, this is seriously the best thread ever hahahaa

Br0nc0Buster
05-14-2009, 01:05 PM
Gotta love the Christian Bashers. Because my Right and Wrong is solid and not tied to some twisting amorphous thing I am a weirdo. Think about it. If in 150 years society decided that it was ok for you to force yourself on a woman you would now be ok with that?

you really are an idiot
Do you honestly think morals were better in the Bronze age?

You're a "weirdo" because you think following the laws at a time when it was OK to stone people for heresy is a good thing

Br0nc0Buster
05-14-2009, 01:10 PM
Awesome. Then that would really qualify you to cite specific examples of Jesus killing people who didn't believe his teachings. I am not trying to pick a fight...just curious to see where in the Bible it says that.

you can get the "morals" of Jesus without the barbarism attached to it that is the rest of the Bible. Its not like Jesus invented the Golden Rule

To suggest the Bible is the best collection of morals is incredibly naive
I am not suggesting this is what you do, but people like the starter of this thread act like they are getting superior morals than what society can come up with because it was written down in the Bronze age


I shouldnt say anymore I have already derailed this topic enough Ithink

kamakazi_kal
05-14-2009, 01:15 PM
this is almost like a "nature vs. nurture" thread.

We know who wins that battle.

Jason in LA
05-14-2009, 01:16 PM
Really thinking about it, if this thread started with, lets say, Die Hard, everybody would probably be on the same page. We'd all agree. We do draw the line somewhere. But at Ghostbusters? Yeah, that's kind of funny.

Houshyamama
05-14-2009, 02:12 PM
Dear God I hope you are joking. I watched that once and wish I could undo it.

You're quite the sensitive guy, aren't cha?

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 02:14 PM
I guess the only thing left to add is a Hotrod tip of the day. Warrantys are void if seals are broken

http://myspace.roflposters.com/images/rofl/myspace/1213211401454.jpg.%5Broflposters.com%5D.myspace.jp g

Popps
05-14-2009, 02:44 PM
Really thinking about it, if this thread started with, lets say, Die Hard, everybody would probably be on the same page. We'd all agree. We do draw the line somewhere. But at Ghostbusters? Yeah, that's kind of funny.

Again, if you understand the science of a toddler's mind, it's really not that hard to understand.

What happened in this thread was... someone objected to not having a say over what his 36 month old child watched, and somehow we got into people talking about post-feminist America.

Again, there are a lot of issues being mixed up, here. Basic child science and psychology is almost unanimous that a child under 3 shouldn't even watch TV, much less potentially confusing, violent images.

People are talking about what they did when they were 5, 7, 12, etc. Those are completely different ages.

The 1-3 year old brain is very fragile and development is absolutely crucial during that period. With so many better resources to help a toddler develop and learn, why choose something that was designed for 12+ year olds, and could potentially pose issues with regards to their ability to process/cope with this information?

The assumption that infants/toddlers are just stupid lumps that don't input any information is just not accurate.

Again, I agree that Ghostbusters is harmless for anyone past toddler-age, for the most part. (Though honestly, I don't recall EVERY scene.)
My point was just that having a 2 year old in the house, I see how my daughter reacts to things that I wouldn't even think about, and there's just a lot of mechanisms that aren't in place to help their little minds deal with some things we consider mundane.

DHallblows
05-14-2009, 03:06 PM
I simply asked fido to back up his claim....that's it.

You need to reread his first post. He wasn't going for saying the Bible has people killing others who don't believe...

Hotrod
05-14-2009, 03:10 PM
Again, if you understand the science of a toddler's mind, it's really not that hard to understand.

What happened in this thread was... someone objected to not having a say over what his 36 month old child watched, and somehow we got into people talking about post-feminist America.

Again, there are a lot of issues being mixed up, here. Basic child science and psychology is almost unanimous that a child under 3 shouldn't even watch TV, much less potentially confusing, violent images.

People are talking about what they did when they were 5, 7, 12, etc. Those are completely different ages.

The 1-3 year old brain is very fragile and development is absolutely crucial during that period. With so many better resources to help a toddler develop and learn, why choose something that was designed for 12+ year olds, and could potentially pose issues with regards to their ability to process/cope with this information?

The assumption that infants/toddlers are just stupid lumps that don't input any information is just not accurate.

Again, I agree that Ghostbusters is harmless for anyone past toddler-age, for the most part. (Though honestly, I don't recall EVERY scene.)
My point was just that having a 2 year old in the house, I see how my daughter reacts to things that I wouldn't even think about, and there's just a lot of mechanisms that aren't in place to help their little minds deal with some things we consider mundane.

Popps I gots nothing but respect for you but man you suck at the offseason :rofl:

bronco610
05-14-2009, 03:19 PM
It comes from Man's natural inclination to fight. If it wasn't a lightsaber it would only be some other made up weapon. The truth is, blaming it on movies is not only missing the point, but taking away from something very innate.

Violence is not a bad thing, it is subjective, and this p***Y society trying to control outside influences is only creating generations of confused people who are being denied what and who they are for the purpose of some scared, reactionary agenda.

What would be healthy is to let children express this very human feeling in a constructive manner like martial arts or sports that are more physical.

Otherwise they are shielded, misguided and ultimately resentful when they grow up.

Rep to you Sir. Could not have said it any clearer.

Mogulseeker
05-14-2009, 03:21 PM
The terror
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OOJack
05-14-2009, 03:24 PM
A kid being taught how to use a gun doesnt automatically mean they are going to hunt "defenseless" living things. Get a grip susie.

:Broncos:

I'm sorry, was that even what I was referring to? Fool

bronco610
05-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Again, if you understand the science of a toddler's mind, it's really not that hard to understand.

What happened in this thread was... someone objected to not having a say over what his 36 month old child watched, and somehow we got into people talking about post-feminist America.
Again, there are a lot of issues being mixed up, here. Basic child science and psychology is almost unanimous that a child under 3 shouldn't even watch TV, much less potentially confusing, violent images.

People are talking about what they did when they were 5, 7, 12, etc. Those are completely different ages.

The 1-3 year old brain is very fragile and development is absolutely crucial during that period. With so many better resources to help a toddler develop and learn, why choose something that was designed for 12+ year olds, and could potentially pose issues with regards to their ability to process/cope with this information?

The assumption that infants/toddlers are just stupid lumps that don't input any information is just not accurate.

Again, I agree that Ghostbusters is harmless for anyone past toddler-age, for the most part. (Though honestly, I don't recall EVERY scene.)
My point was just that having a 2 year old in the house, I see how my daughter reacts to things that I wouldn't even think about, and there's just a lot of mechanisms that aren't in place to help their little minds deal with some things we consider mundane.

Popps, if that is his case why was the kid at somebody elses house if he is that moraly superior. He did not do his job as a parent then by protecting his 3 yr. old from the terrible cruel and dangerous world.

Having said that I don't really care one way or the other because its his child and he cand deal with the insecurities and problems an over protective child hood will bring.

ScottXray
05-14-2009, 03:37 PM
Trust me they know.

All I let my Kids watch is Discovery Channel. They probably see 4-6 hours of TV each Week. I Also let him watch sports like Basketball, Boxing, Football and UFC.

Discovery...OK. UFC, Boxing, to a lesser extent football....
People trying to beat holy hell out of each other is Acceptable...and Ghostbusters isn't.....
I'm gonna think on that for a while..

OABB
05-14-2009, 03:39 PM
Discovery...OK. UFC, Boxing, to a lesser extent football....
People trying to beat holy hell out of each other is Acceptable...and Ghostbusters isn't.....
I'm gonna think on that for a while..

I would let my two year old watch me teabag their mother. It's not like they have any concept of what is going on.

and If they are so smart, why can't they stop ****ting their pants?

bronco610
05-14-2009, 03:49 PM
I would let my two year old watch me teabag their mother. It's not like they have any concept of what is going on.

and If they are so smart, why can't they stop ****ting their pants?
Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!