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Vegas_Bronco
04-26-2009, 05:59 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=4102535

By Jeffri Chadiha
ESPN.com

The NFL draft once again has given us plenty of prospects to watch as the season approaches. As usual, some have landed with teams that desperately needed their services. Meanwhile, others have landed in places where it's hard to really know what the decision-makers were thinking (and here is where you can insert that annual Al Davis joke). Now all we have to do is figure out which players fell into the best situations.

That's the important thing to remember about the draft -- talent and opportunity are usually the best predictors of a player's potential impact on his new team. It's why certain rookies -- like Tennessee running back Chris Johnson, New England linebacker Jerod Mayo and Atlanta quarterback Matt Ryan -- thrived last season while other first-year players struggled. These young men went to teams that put them in the best positions to maximize their skills. Here are 10 more who might be that fortunate this season:

1. Aaron Curry, LB, Seattle: The Seahawks could've selected quarterback Mark Sanchez with this pick, but they saw the value in taking the safest choice in this draft. As a result, they now get to add Curry to a linebacker corps that already includes young talent Lofa Tatupu. Curry's versatility alone made him an attractive choice for several teams looking to improve their defenses. Now that ability to thrive in various roles will make him a valuable weapon for a team that traded Julian Peterson to Detroit in March.

2. Knowshon Moreno, RB, Denver: All you have to know about the Broncos is they had seven running backs land on injured reserve last season. They needed a reliable runner with game-breaking skills and they got exactly that in Moreno. This doesn't absolve the team for trading Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler earlier this offseason. But Moreno's presence -- along with strong receivers and a standout left tackle in Ryan Clady -- will make life much easier on new quarterback Kyle Orton.
3. Brian Orakpo, DE, Washington: The Redskins were so eager to make this selection, they needed about 30 seconds to pull the trigger. It's easy to see why. Orakpo is one of the most talented pass-rushers in this year's draft, and the Redskins needed somebody to energize a unit that produced just 24 sacks last season (tying them for 28th in the NFL in that category). The 6-foot-4, 260-pound Orakpo will be used as a strongside linebacker on running downs, but it's his rushing skills in passing situations that will be most critical. With Pro Bowl defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth commanding constant double-teams next to him, Orakpo could post a double-digit number of sacks as a rookie.

4. Jeremy Maclin, WR, Philadelphia: Maclin should live up to the hype that comes with being just the second receiver drafted in the first round by head coach Andy Reid. Like second-year Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson, Maclin has the quickness and elusiveness to have an immediate impact on the Philadelphia offense. He's also a gifted return man, which means Jackson might not have to handle punt-return responsibilities any longer. On top of all that, Maclin shouldn't face much pressure in this system. The recent trade for Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters and the presence of Jackson, running back Brian Westbrook and quarterback Donovan McNabb means the Eagles already have plenty of talent on that side of the football.

5. Donald Brown, RB, Indianapolis: Brown should get plenty of chances to help the Colts' run game. Indianapolis averaged a meager 79.6 yards a game on the ground last season -- which ranked them 31st in the NFL -- and former Pro Bowl running back Joseph Addai has suddenly become a fragile, pedestrian performer. The 5-10, 210-pound Brown knows what it's like to be a workhorse after gaining 2,083 yards on 367 carries for Connecticut last fall. Now he'll see what life is like as one-half of a backfield combination that should better assist quarterback Peyton Manning.

6. Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Arizona: It's no secret that the Cardinals had plenty of problems running the football in 2008; they ranked last in the league in that category. They also don't need Wells to be a savior for that rushing attack. Tim Hightower should remain as the short-yardage specialist, while Wells provides Arizona with an equally bruising runner with deceptive breakaway speed. Yeah, the Cardinals certainly liked the idea of drafting a more explosive runner like Donald Brown (who was gone by the time they drafted 31st overall). But Wells should make life easier on their vaunted passing game as well.

7. Evander "Ziggy" Hood, DE, Pittsburgh: Though many analysts had Hood pegged as an attractive prospect for teams coveting a 4-3 defensive tackle, he'll fit nicely with the defending Super Bowl champions. For one thing, he'll be joining a defensive line that already includes talented veterans like nose tackle Casey Hampton and defensive end Aaron Smith. Another plus is that the 33-year-old Smith is on the downside of his career, which means Hood can transition smoothly into a starting job after a brief apprenticeship. It also doesn't hurt that the Steelers had the NFL's top defense last season. The bottom line here: Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau should get the most out of his new first-round pick.

8. Everette Brown, DE, Carolina: Brown could end up being a huge steal. Most analysts projected him as a first-rounder, but the Panthers eventually got him after trading up in the second round (and giving San Francisco their first-round pick next season). What the Panthers saw was a speedy, slightly undersized pass-rusher who led the ACC with 13.5 sacks last season. Since Pro Bowl defensive end Julius Peppers is expected to be back with the team this fall, the Panthers now have two players who can make life tough on quarterbacks.

9. Pat White, QB, Miami: White went to the one team that shouldn't have any problems determining the best way to use him. The Dolphins generated plenty of buzz when they unveiled their Wildcat formation last season and now they have the perfect player to run it. Who cares if the 6-foot, 190-pound White is too small to be a full-time quarterback? He's apparently willing to do anything to get on the field -- even if it means playing special teams or wide receiver -- and his open-field running skills should drive defenses crazy during the 15 to 20 plays he'll likely get each week.

10. Phil Loadholt, OT, Minnesota: Wide receiver Percy Harvin was the sexier pick for the Vikings in the first round, but Loadholt, Minnesota's second-round pick, makes them even scarier up front. The Vikings now will have the 6-8, 343-pound Loadholt at right tackle and 6-8, 335-pound Bryant McKinnie at left tackle. Throw in Pro Bowl guard Steve Hutchinson and that's a lot of beef for Pro Bowl running back Adrian Peterson to run behind. In fact, Peterson just became the front-runner for league MVP honors with this move.

Senior writer Jeffri Chadiha covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Rulon Velvet Jones
04-26-2009, 06:02 PM
Shhh...nobody tell Gollum.

Vegas_Bronco
04-26-2009, 06:07 PM
Given we have a short range passing game and are looking to beef up the line...we could have an OROY on our team.

I think the 2009 OROY may come down to Sanchez, Moreno, Wells, and look for Shonn Green to represent also.

lex
04-26-2009, 06:09 PM
Given we have a short range passing game and are looking to beef up the line...we could have an OROY on our team.

I think the 2009 OROY may come down to Sanchez, Moreno, Wells, and look for Shonn Green to represent also.

Maclin has a slim chance. I say that because a RB and a QB typically has the upperhand over WRs.

worm
04-26-2009, 06:14 PM
Orton has to be feeling like he won the lottery right about now.

He wakes up with a much better OL in Denver,
receivers that can actually receive,
doesn't have to deal with the wind off the Lake,
gets to execute a game plan where the pressure is off of him to make plays down the field,
and now gets a brand new dynamic rookie RB in the 1st.

Somebody pinch him!

broncofan7
04-26-2009, 06:19 PM
I wrote before the draft that I wanted Moreno @18--I am glad that we got him @12 because the rumor was that SD had him pegged @16 regardless of what Woody Paige wrote, etc. He will be the face of our franchise by season's end.....our 1st round was very good IMHO.........

lex
04-26-2009, 08:09 PM
Orton has to be feeling like he won the lottery right about now.

He wakes up with a much better OL in Denver,
receivers that can actually receive,
doesn't have to deal with the wind off the Lake,
gets to execute a game plan where the pressure is off of him to make plays down the field,
and now gets a brand new dynamic rookie RB in the 1st.

Somebody pinch him!

Orton doesnt "get" anything. He will be playing with a new RB that was taken in the first.

Kaylore
04-26-2009, 08:12 PM
We finally take a running back and Lex still isn't happy. Remember folks, this is the same guy who threw a fit when Mendenhall wasn't taken by us - the guy that finished the season on IR.

RhymesayersDU
04-26-2009, 08:15 PM
Orton has to be feeling like he won the lottery right about now.

He wakes up with a much better OL in Denver,
receivers that can actually receive,
doesn't have to deal with the wind off the Lake,
gets to execute a game plan where the pressure is off of him to make plays down the field,
and now gets a brand new dynamic rookie RB in the 1st.

Somebody pinch him!

Yes, pinch him and let him know that if he's not putting up 35 points a game he's losing, because our 29th ranked defense that still hasn't gotten better will be shredded on a weekly basis. But hey, he's got his Matt Forte, so hooray.

lex
04-26-2009, 08:16 PM
We finally take a running back and Lex still isn't happy. Remember folks, this is the same guy who threw a fit when Mendenhall wasn't taken by us - the guy that finished the season on IR.

This is a lie. Get your **** straight.

HAT
04-26-2009, 08:20 PM
Yes, pinch him and let him know that if he's not putting up 35 points a game he's losing, because our 29th ranked defense that still hasn't gotten better will be shredded on a weekly basis. But hey, he's got his Matt Forte, so hooray.


Dude....the defense got better the minute Shanahan/Slowik were fired.....

RhymesayersDU
04-26-2009, 08:23 PM
Dude....the defense got better the minute Shanahan/Slowik were fired.....

I hope you're right.

See the problem with this argument is that was Slowik a bad coach? Or did he not have any good players? Kind of a chicken/egg scenario.

I'm not saying Slowik was a good coach, but I also don't think we had any good players. We had Champ and DJ and 9 other stiffs out there. And Champ/DJ both got hurt and missed extended time.

IMO, we need better players. I do like that Nolan is the new DC, but I don't know how much he can do with our (still) ****ty defensive players.

Beantown Bronco
04-26-2009, 08:25 PM
I hope you're right.

See the problem with this argument is that was Slowik a bad coach? Or did he not have any good players? Kind of a chicken/egg scenario.

I'm not saying Slowik was a good coach, but I also don't think we had any good players. We had Champ and DJ and 9 other stiffs out there. And Champ/DJ both got hurt and missed extended time.

IMO, we need better players. I do like that Nolan is the new DC, but I don't know how much he can do with our (still) ****ty defensive players.

This is what I keep saying, but nobody is listening. 7 "starters" from his unit have been let go. All are still unemployed. Not even a sniff from other teams. And guys that are still here like Moss can't even be given away.

That's pretty telling.

Broncosfreak_56
04-26-2009, 08:35 PM
This is a lie. Get your **** straight.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=68040

lex
04-26-2009, 08:41 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=68040


OK...? What does this have to do with anything that was said in this thread? Youre really reaching.

manchambo
04-26-2009, 10:01 PM
Notice, though, that Orakpo is next, and Beanie Wells also is on the list.

Woudn't Orakpo and Beanie have made more sense for this team?

I guess they liked Ayers better than Orakpo. They better be right.

BroncoBuff
04-26-2009, 10:03 PM
2. Knowshon Moreno, RB, Denver: This doesn't absolve the team for trading Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler earlier this offseason. But Moreno's presence -- along with strong receivers and a standout left tackle in Ryan Clady -- will make life much easier on new quarterback Kyle Orton.


Why will Orton care?

He'll be riding the pine ... mark my words.

OABB
04-26-2009, 10:05 PM
Lex, your mendenhall melt down was classic! I was one of the lucky one's to be put on your ignore list...not as good as your pats fan lists, but still an honor...Come on, I know you got one more in there...

tsiguy96
04-26-2009, 10:09 PM
This is what I keep saying, but nobody is listening. 7 "starters" from his unit have been let go. All are still unemployed. Not even a sniff from other teams. And guys that are still here like Moss can't even be given away.

That's pretty telling.

part of the problem was he never made adjustments to account for the weaknesses of the team. we had good corners, but did very little blitzing to create pressure so they could do their job. safeties were VERY weak, hence the signings and drafts of safeties (2 new guys who are gonna learn from dawkins...come on thats awesome). the LBs were not that bad either, but slowik simply failed to change from week to week to week, and everyone kept screaming the same things over and over but he never changed and the same strategy worked every week. 5 yard pass to the receiver who runs it for 10 yards because we played in prevent all the time.

lex
04-26-2009, 10:09 PM
Lex, your mendenhall melt down was classic! I was one of the lucky one's to be put on your ignore list...not as good as your pats fan lists, but still an honor...Come on, I know you got one more in there...


Not a problem, ****head. On ignore you go. You need to get your **** straight.

BroncoBuff
04-26-2009, 10:10 PM
Orton has to be feeling like he won the lottery right about now.

Somebody pinch him!

Yeah, he'll have something SUPER exciting to watch with that clipboard in his hands.

OABB
04-26-2009, 10:13 PM
Not a problem, ****head. On ignore you go. You need to get your **** straight.

whaaaah!!!!!!!! We drafted Clady! Whaaaaahhhh!!!!!!! we never ever ever get a franchise back....whaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!

Popps
04-26-2009, 10:24 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=68040

:spit:

Vegas_Bronco
04-26-2009, 10:32 PM
I wrote before the draft that I wanted Moreno @18--I am glad that we got him @12 because the rumor was that SD had him pegged @16 regardless of what Woody Paige wrote, etc. He will be the face of our franchise by season's end.....our 1st round was very good IMHO.........

Funny enough...I dropped a hint that he was top 5 in our draft the night before - I was sworn to secrecy through my source(s). When Raji and Jackson were gone as well as the Qb's....I knew Moreno was going to be on the Broncos list and it was pretty damn suprising to see it happen.

Vegas_Bronco
04-26-2009, 10:36 PM
Notice, though, that Orakpo is next, and Beanie Wells also is on the list.

Woudn't Orakpo and Beanie have made more sense for this team?

I guess they liked Ayers better than Orakpo. They better be right.

You have to know the difference between Ayers and Orakpo...obviously McD and the Executioner like the football smart players. Ayers will be a great player for us - he is a freak on the field and absolute freak!!!

eddie mac
04-26-2009, 10:36 PM
I hope you're right.

See the problem with this argument is that was Slowik a bad coach? Or did he not have any good players? Kind of a chicken/egg scenario.

I'm not saying Slowik was a good coach, but I also don't think we had any good players. We had Champ and DJ and 9 other stiffs out there. And Champ/DJ both got hurt and missed extended time.

IMO, we need better players. I do like that Nolan is the new DC, but I don't know how much he can do with our (still) ****ty defensive players.

Slowik is a decent position coach, nothing more, nothing less. Everytime he's been put in charge of more than one single unit it has all fallen apart. How the hell Shanahan never seen that is beyond me.

lex
04-26-2009, 10:41 PM
Slowik is a decent position coach, nothing more, nothing less. Everytime he's been put in charge of more than one single unit it has all fallen apart. How the hell Shanahan never seen that is beyond me.


Shanahan is too worried about seeming like a "players coach" and was in love with Champ the same way many here are.

Kaylore
04-26-2009, 11:11 PM
Ryan Clady and Eddie Royal. Yeah we really blew it!ROFL!

lex
04-26-2009, 11:15 PM
Ryan Clady and Eddie Royal. Yeah we really blew it!ROFL!

Go back and read that thread. It wasnt about Clady (or even Royal).

But also, McDaniels first pick was a RB...so dont give me this nonsense that we were good to go where RBs were concerned. We were too pass happy and our lack of a running game is why the offense stalled out at times.

Once again, stop making stuff up.

24champ
04-26-2009, 11:24 PM
Bout time we drafted a top flight running back.

Depth chart-
Moreno
Hillis
Torain
Buckhalter

FireFly
04-27-2009, 01:30 AM
Why will Orton care?

He'll be riding the pine ... mark my words.

Chris Simms FTW!

:strong:

BMarsh615
04-27-2009, 05:19 AM
Notice, though, that Orakpo is next, and Beanie Wells also is on the list.

Woudn't Orakpo and Beanie have made more sense for this team?

I guess they liked Ayers better than Orakpo. They better be right.

I never liked Beanie Wells, he runs soft for such a big guy. I think Knowshon is going to be a special player. He can make something out of nothing and runs tougher than Beanie Wells does and he is 20 pounds lighter. Plus Knowshon seems like a pretty durable RB.

Broncoman13
04-27-2009, 05:45 AM
Given we have a short range passing game and are looking to beef up the line...we could have an OROY on our team.

I think the 2009 OROY may come down to Sanchez, Moreno, Wells, and look for Shonn Green to represent also.


Here is how I see it...

Sanchez- Who is he going to throw to? I don't see a OROY without some receivers. Final #'s for Sanchez- 3000 yds, 15 TDs and 10 Ints. 9-7 record and will start from day one.

Moreno- Too many backs in Denver and you know that McD will rotate the guys. Moreno will get the lion's share but I would expect somebody else will get the goal line type carries. Hillis/Buckhalter/Jordan to steal TDs. Final #s for Moreno- 1100 total yards (800/300) and 5 TDs.

Wells- Of your list I would put my money on him. The only thing that will derail him from OROY is injury, which is possible as well. I'll say 1200 yards and 10 TDs for Wells with another 40 yards on his 3 catches! ;D

Shonn Greene- Shares carries with Thomas Jones and they don't have the receivers to move the ball between the 20's. He'll be a good sturdy back but they also have Leon Washington. I'll say 700 yards and 6 TDs.

Mathew Stafford- Has some weapons around him. Will likely start by week 5. He'll have some success and be in the running. Ultimately though, he won't win enough games (though not by his own fault) and he'll finish with around 2800 yards and 15/15 TD/INT.

My personal favorites to win the award:
1. Percy Harvin- Most dynamic player in this draft (well, besides Pat White maybe) and the Vikes got an absolute steal if Harvin keeps his stuff together. I can see Harvin catching 65 balls for about 900 yards (5 TDs) and rushing the ball another 100 times for about 500 yards and another 4 TDs). He'll play some wildcat formations and may throw the ball even and I'd guess they'll try and use him in the return game as well. I see 1600 yards total yards and 10 TDs for Harvin IF he walks the straight and narrow.
2. Beanie Wells- See above for reasoning.
3. Hakeem Nicks- Really going against the grain here. WRs aren't typically super successful as rookies but I think Nicks is stepping into the perfect situation. He'll be a go to guy and has a great supporting cast that can move the ball down the field. He'll be the Giants most productive receiver and Eli Manning will find him in the redzone quite a bit. My darkhorse will end the season with 80 receptions for 1100 yards and 10 TDs. Being in the huge NY market, that will give him the OROY!

Broncoman13
04-27-2009, 05:47 AM
I never liked Beanie Wells, he runs soft for such a big guy. I think Knowshon is going to be a special player. He can make something out of nothing and runs tougher than Beanie Wells does and he is 20 pounds lighter. Plus Knowshon seems like a pretty durable RB.

Knowshon is 10x the teammate too. He is going to be a great leader for our team. I'm glad things worked out the way they did. Oh, and I believe the Broncos strongly considered drafting Beanie Wells up to about two weeks ago. When he "missed" his visit, that sealed the deal for the Broncos. Glad it worked out that way!

barryr
04-27-2009, 07:21 AM
Funny, I had the Broncos taking Hood at #18 and was told it was a bad pick.

7. Evander "Ziggy" Hood, DE, Pittsburgh: Though many analysts had Hood pegged as an attractive prospect for teams coveting a 4-3 defensive tackle, he'll fit nicely with the defending Super Bowl champions. For one thing, he'll be joining a defensive line that already includes talented veterans like nose tackle Casey Hampton and defensive end Aaron Smith. Another plus is that the 33-year-old Smith is on the downside of his career, which means Hood can transition smoothly into a starting job after a brief apprenticeship. It also doesn't hurt that the Steelers had the NFL's top defense last season. The bottom line here: Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau should get the most out of his new first-round pick.

NaptownChief
04-27-2009, 08:39 AM
We will have to see it play out but Moreno's measurables aren't very impressive. A 4.61 40 at the combine and just a 25 inch vertical came in less than Graham Herrell's. Those don't tell you what kind of football instincts a player has but those aren't numbers that should be getting drafted 12th overall IMHO. I think the best back in the draft was Donald Brown that the Colts grabbed. Surprised they spent a 1st round pick on a RB but I think they did grab the best one out there.

I'm not sure which player was the biggest reach in the first round but I do know the three teams battling it out for that honor are all in the AFC West.

manchambo
04-27-2009, 10:02 AM
I never liked Beanie Wells, he runs soft for such a big guy. I think Knowshon is going to be a special player. He can make something out of nothing and runs tougher than Beanie Wells does and he is 20 pounds lighter. Plus Knowshon seems like a pretty durable RB.

I don't think there's much question Knowshon is a better player. The question to me is, given this team's needs, shouldn't you try to get the special pass rusher first, then the RB?

As I said, the Broncos seem to like Ayers better than Orakpo. At least Mayock agrees with them on that. To me this is the key to whether this draft will be a success. If Ayers turns out mediocre, and Orakpo is the next Julius Peppers, we will regret the decision for a long time, unless Moreno is the next LT.

NaptownChief
04-27-2009, 10:30 AM
I don't think there's much question Knowshon is a better player. The question to me is, given this team's needs, shouldn't you try to get the special pass rusher first, then the RB?

As I said, the Broncos seem to like Ayers better than Orakpo. At least Mayock agrees with them on that. To me this is the key to whether this draft will be a success. If Ayers turns out mediocre, and Orakpo is the next Julius Peppers, we will regret the decision for a long time, unless Moreno is the next LT.



I think the Ayers pick was an excellent one. The Moreno pick just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense given all the other needs and the fact Denver signed a slew of RB's this offseason. Moreno looks like a really good back but he did have a lot of other talent around him and that makes me wonder how much he really benefited from that...especially given a pedestrian 4.61 40 and a 25 inch vert.

lex
04-27-2009, 10:32 AM
Here is how I see it...

Sanchez- Who is he going to throw to? I don't see a OROY without some receivers. Final #'s for Sanchez- 3000 yds, 15 TDs and 10 Ints. 9-7 record and will start from day one.

Moreno- Too many backs in Denver and you know that McD will rotate the guys. Moreno will get the lion's share but I would expect somebody else will get the goal line type carries. Hillis/Buckhalter/Jordan to steal TDs. Final #s for Moreno- 1100 total yards (800/300) and 5 TDs.
Wells- Of your list I would put my money on him. The only thing that will derail him from OROY is injury, which is possible as well. I'll say 1200 yards and 10 TDs for Wells with another 40 yards on his 3 catches! ;D

Shonn Greene- Shares carries with Thomas Jones and they don't have the receivers to move the ball between the 20's. He'll be a good sturdy back but they also have Leon Washington. I'll say 700 yards and 6 TDs.

Mathew Stafford- Has some weapons around him. Will likely start by week 5. He'll have some success and be in the running. Ultimately though, he won't win enough games (though not by his own fault) and he'll finish with around 2800 yards and 15/15 TD/INT.

My personal favorites to win the award:
1. Percy Harvin- Most dynamic player in this draft (well, besides Pat White maybe) and the Vikes got an absolute steal if Harvin keeps his stuff together. I can see Harvin catching 65 balls for about 900 yards (5 TDs) and rushing the ball another 100 times for about 500 yards and another 4 TDs). He'll play some wildcat formations and may throw the ball even and I'd guess they'll try and use him in the return game as well. I see 1600 yards total yards and 10 TDs for Harvin IF he walks the straight and narrow.
2. Beanie Wells- See above for reasoning.
3. Hakeem Nicks- Really going against the grain here. WRs aren't typically super successful as rookies but I think Nicks is stepping into the perfect situation. He'll be a go to guy and has a great supporting cast that can move the ball down the field. He'll be the Giants most productive receiver and Eli Manning will find him in the redzone quite a bit. My darkhorse will end the season with 80 receptions for 1100 yards and 10 TDs. Being in the huge NY market, that will give him the OROY!

Quite honestly, I would have preferred Wells but I really dont think we lose anything by having Moreno in there at the goal line vs the other guys we currently have. He had some pretty outstanding runs that were around the goal line.

manchambo
04-27-2009, 11:20 AM
I think the Ayers pick was an excellent one. The Moreno pick just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense given all the other needs and the fact Denver signed a slew of RB's this offseason. Moreno looks like a really good back but he did have a lot of other talent around him and that makes me wonder how much he really benefited from that...especially given a pedestrian 4.61 40 and a 25 inch vert.

I think the pick makes a lot of sense if you look at the situation (as I believe they should) as at least a two year project. Make sure you don't stretch for need and take someone you shouldn't, and plan on getting the pieces you need over the course of two drafts.

What I am totally confounded by is the fact that they then turn around and mortgage next year by trading up repeatedly to grab role players. That's the sort of thing you do if you think you can get a couple of players to put you over the top and compete in the post season. Obviously doesn't make much sense here.