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tsiguy96
04-26-2009, 10:59 AM
mcd likes his secondary..

Overview Bruton flashed as a playmaker in his first season as a starter in 2007, when he had 85 tackles, three interceptions and 4.5 tackles for loss. His production increased in some ways during his senior year (91 tackles, four interceptions, two forced fumbles), but his overall play did not result in Notre Dame's defensive improvement. A team captain, he has the size, speed and athleticism to potentially be a good starter and very good special teams player at the next level.

High School Graduated from Miamisburg (Ohio) High School ... Made 54 tackles, three interceptions and broke up seven passes as a senior ... Caught 10 passes for 200 yards as a receiver ... Averaged 41 yards on four kickoff returns ... Earned All-Division I-II all-area honors from Dayton Daily News ... Won all-district honors on defense ... All-conference and special mention all-Southwest Ohio as a junior ... As a junior in 2003, intercepted eight passes, made 58 tackles and had 270 receiving yards ... Attended Notre Dame football camp in the summer of 2004 ... Coached by Tim Lewis.

BroncoInferno
04-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Another safety. Don't know anything about this guy. He must not like the DL in this draft.

backup qb
04-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Didn't we spend 37 million in free agency to upgrade the secondary? I have no problem drafting some additional depth but 3 picks already?

Bronco Boy
04-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Good player. But he can't play NT.

SoCalBronco
04-26-2009, 11:02 AM
Bruton is a good player. We have addressed the S position that's for sure. I'm sure Drek is happy that we got one of his golden domers.

Again, though, the theme of the draft continues: the player is a quality one in the abstract, and will be helpful (and S is a position of need), but the greatest position of needs are STILL being ignored.

Rohirrim
04-26-2009, 11:05 AM
Overview
Bruton flashed as a playmaker in his first season as a starter in 2007, when he had 85 tackles, three interceptions and 4.5 tackles for loss. His production increased in some ways during his senior year (91 tackles, four interceptions, two forced fumbles), but his overall play did not result in Notre Dame's defensive improvement. A team captain, he has the size, speed and athleticism to potentially be a good starter and very good special teams player at the next level.

Analysis
Positives: Centerfielder with good height and upper-body build. … Nice straight-line speed and overall athleticism for his size. … Usually able to track down ballcarriers from behind, although he will usually take the correct angle to prevent the catastrophic play. … Covers a lot of ground in the deep half, with the ability to high-point the ball on the sideline for the interception. … Good hands make to quarterbacks pay for overthrows. … Also moves inside-out well to get to ballcarriers on stretch plays, either behind the line of scrimmage or working through trash. … Breaks down well, getting low to make the tackle in the open field. … Long enough to wrap up in space and get a hand on the ball to force the turnover. … Major special teams contributor for the Irish as a gunner, winning hand-play at the line, beating the double team, showing good speed down the field and securing the tackle. … Good leader and hard worker.

Negatives: Stiff in the hips. … Has trouble flipping open in transition. … Adequate closing on underneath patterns and staying with tight ends, but struggles manning up against quicker receivers. … Needs to improve reading quarterback so he can be involved in more plays. … Not physical enough against the run or in coverage. … Often loses hand battles and fights for the ball with receivers. … Doesn't explode into tackles, but is more of a catcher. … Running backs drive through his arm tackles. … Will whiff in the open field when ducking his head instead of seeing what he hits.

2007 Season
Ranked third on the team and tops in the secondary with 85 tackles … also posted one sack, 4.5 tackles for loss, three interceptions, two passes broken up, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery … played in all 12 contests, starting 11 games at free safety (did not start vs. Navy) … notched five games with at least nine tackles … started first career game in season opener vs. Georgia Tech … recorded best game in his Irish career, recording career highs with nine tackles, two tackles for loss and one sack … suited up vs. Penn State, making two tackles (one solo, one assist) … led the Irish with nine tackles against Michigan … led the Irish in solo tackles with eight (totalled 15) against Michigan State … added an interception vs. the Spartans in the second quarter … recorded three solo tackles against Purdue … recorded one interception with a 17-yard return vs. UCLA to set up first Irish touchdown … made four solo tackles vs. the Bruins … had six solo tackles vs. Boston College … had one forced fumble against USC … made two solo and 3 assisted tackles vs. the Trojans … made four tackles (two solo, two assist) vs. Navy … recorded 13 tackles (seven solo, six assist) against Air Force … made six tackles (three solo/three assisted) and had a fumble recovery against Duke … tied for the team lead (with Tom Zbikowski and Joe Brockington) with nine tackles vs. Stanford … made his third interception of the season at Stanford … logged 319:02 of playing time and made 169 special teams appearances … named defensive MVP of the 2007 Blue-Gold Game after returning an interception 35 yards for a touchdown and recording four tackles.

2006 Season
Played in 12 of 13 games for the Irish, on both special teams and as a reserve safety … recorded 11 special teams tackles … recorded 18 total tackles on the season … after making first appearance of season against Penn State, recorded two tackles against Michigan … recorded three tackles against Stanford … made solo tackles against Purdue and UCLA … recorded a season-high five tackles in home finale against Army, including one for loss … registered two tackles in final regular season game at USC … recorded four special teams tackles in the Sugar Bowl against LSU … logged 85:02 of playing time.

2005 Season
Played in 11 games, primarily on special teams … made 14 tackles (10 solos) and broke up a pass … recorded his first career tackle (solo) against Michigan … made one solo tackle at safety in the win at Washington … had a huge day on kickoff coverage at Purdue, logging five solo tackles and stopping return men inside the Purdue 20 on three occasions … also played 3:55 at safety against the Boilermakers … did not play against USC … made 17 special teams appearances versus BYU … made two tackles (one solo) on special teams against Tennessee … made two tackles (one solo) on special teams in the win over Navy … made two tackles (one solo) in the win over Stanford … assisted on his lone tackle of the game against Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl … logged 3:55 of playing time with 162 special teams appearances.

High School
Graduated from Miamisburg (Ohio) High School … Made 54 tackles, three interceptions and broke up seven passes as a senior … Caught 10 passes for 200 yards as a receiver … Averaged 41 yards on four kickoff returns … Earned All-Division I-II all-area honors from Dayton Daily News … Won all-district honors on defense … All-conference and special mention all-Southwest Ohio as a junior … As a junior in 2003, intercepted eight passes, made 58 tackles and had 270 receiving yards … Attended Notre Dame football camp in the summer of 2004 … Coached by Tim Lewis.

Personal
Full name is David Lee Bruton … Born July 23, 1987, in Winchester, Ky. … Older of two children … Enrolled in the College of Arts and Letters, majoring in political science and sociology

tsiguy96
04-26-2009, 11:05 AM
mayock is saying he LOVES the picks and doesnt even mind where they were taken, but the only complaint he has about our picks are HOW we got some of them.

but in general, he is very, very satisfied with the picks.

Lolad
04-26-2009, 11:05 AM
Does McIDIOT know he picked up a couple of players in the secondary during FA? This Draft speaks of utter ignorance, probably because they fired our scouting staff a month before the draft.

BroncoInferno
04-26-2009, 11:06 AM
Bruton is a good player. We have addressed the S position that's for sure. I'm sure Drek is happy that we got one of his golden domers.

Again, though, the theme of the draft continues: the player is a quality one in the abstract, and will be helpful (and S is a position of need), but the greatest position of needs are STILL being ignored.

SoCal--I think it is clear that the front office does not put a lot of value in the DL available in this draft. Do you really want them to pick a guy out of need over a prospect they have rated higher and feel more confident in? And it isn't like the picks we made were not need at need areas (with the exception of the Quinn pick).

lazarus4444
04-26-2009, 11:07 AM
This looks like a pickup for special teams help.

Hallside
04-26-2009, 11:07 AM
Amazing workout. I've wanted him since the combine.

BroncoInferno
04-26-2009, 11:08 AM
Good player. But he can't play NT.

This draft was piss poor at NT beyond Raji. You guys want us to draft a NT just for the sake of it even if there are better guys available?

Rohirrim
04-26-2009, 11:08 AM
Next player taken: Sammie Lee Hill Hilarious! This dude has a touch.

Hulamau
04-26-2009, 11:08 AM
Safety David Bruton offers good combination of size, speed
By
Brad Biggs
on April 24, 2009 5:21 PM

David Bruton is hopeful that his teammates get some good luck this weekend but the Notre Dame free safety could be the only Fighting Irish player drafted this weekend.

There is a parallel between the final recruiting class of Ty Willingham at the school and the performance by the Irish last season, that's for sure. The NFL doesn't see the talent either.

Bruton is a projected mid-round pick with a good combination of size and range. He met with the Bears' coaching staff at the Senior Bowl in January but has not had much contact since. Bruton did make two official visits to Denver and the New York Jets and the Broncos are particularly interested as they also put him through a private workout on campus.

"I have heard anywhere between late second to fifth, I don't know,'' Bruton said. "Wherever I fall is where I fall. At the end of the day, I still have to make the team and eventually become a starter wherever I go."

Bruton is an interesting player because he has good size at 6-2, 219 pounds, and he runs well and has good lateral quickness. Scouts knock him for being stiff in the hips and he's not considered to be real instinctive, a trait that's significant for the last line of defense. He could turn into an in-the-box player.

"Everyone of us has our own niche, what we do better than the other,'' Bruton said. "What I would bring to the table is just my range and communication, which is the key in the back end. I'm a hard worker and I know the other guys work hard. I think what would set me apart is my range.

"Being this big and still being able to run in the mid 4.4's or the low 4.4's, I feel that is advantageous for me."

The last time only one Irish player was drafted was 2000 when Jarious Jackson lasted until the seventh round.

SoCalBronco
04-26-2009, 11:09 AM
SoCal--I think it is clear that the front office does not put a lot of value in the DL available in this draft. Do you really want them to pick a guy out of need over a prospect they have rated higher and feel more confident in? And it isn't like the picks we made were not need at need areas (with the exception of the Quinn pick).

Quite frankly, I don't particularly care what the FO thinks, since they haven't proven ****. But even if they didn't like what was there at their pick, since they were willing to piss away picks, they should have moved up for defensive prospects they did like. They absolutely have to get DL to make the 3-4 work. Our LBs are going to have the DL thrown back in their laps all season at this rate. You've got to get some 3-4 DL prospects,even if they are flawed.

Dagmar
04-26-2009, 11:09 AM
Does McIDIOT know he picked up a couple of players in the secondary during FA? This Draft speaks of utter ignorance, probably because they fired our scouting staff a month before the draft.

I can't IMAGINE why the Broncos haven't hired you...

enjolras
04-26-2009, 11:09 AM
I just don't see how you could watch this defense last year and not be thrilled that they are addressing Safety in this draft. We had the absolute worst safety play in the history of football (FAR worse than our d-line play).

This defense would have been much better, maybe even average, if the safeties wouldn't have let 10 yard gains turn into touchdowns on a really regular basis.

Hopefully the rookie safeties will start to fix that.

From what I can tell Bruton is a monster with tackling issues (which is why he's a 4th rounder). If they can develop him and improve his tackling he has the possibility of being quite special. Tremendous upside.

BroncoInferno
04-26-2009, 11:11 AM
Does McIDIOT know he picked up a couple of players in the secondary during FA? This Draft speaks of utter ignorance, probably because they fired our scouting staff a month before the draft.

Yes--ignorance of fans like you who want us to draft guys just out of need over better players (who are at need positions in any case).

Drek
04-26-2009, 11:11 AM
Bruton is a good player. We have addressed the S position that's for sure. I'm sure Drek is happy that we got one of his golden domers.

Again, though, the theme of the draft continues: the player is a quality one in the abstract, and will be helpful (and S is a position of need), but the greatest position of needs are STILL being ignored.

Yep, actually I am. :D

Bruton is the only ND guy I'd care to see us take this year (or probably for a few years to go from here out). I'd actually targeted him with this pick in the OM mock but he was taken before I had the chance to grab him.

I really like Bruton, he's got center fielder speed and ball skills but the size of an in the box safety.

My only concern is it doesn't bode well for Josh Barrett, who I like as well, sticking around real long. But then in the middle of the 4th Bruton is real good value, so maybe they just see it as adding layers of depth to make sure they come away with some difference makers.

Hell, in the 4th he's a good pick just based on what he can add to our special teams coverage.

SoCalBronco
04-26-2009, 11:12 AM
I am excited about the infusion of young, quality talent at S.

I just wish we took the DL seriously. That's the whole lynchpin of the scheme.

If we're going to rely on Powell/Fields, Thomas and Peterson, then I guess we're putting a thousand bucks on Bob's Mom showing up in Playboy.

ward63
04-26-2009, 11:14 AM
Ever heard of Sammie Lee hill or Terrance Taylor?

Gcver2ver3
04-26-2009, 11:14 AM
This draft was piss poor at NT beyond Raji. You guys want us to draft a NT just for the sake of it even if there are better guys available?

good point, but Sammie Lee Hill may have been a decent pick there...

BMarsh615
04-26-2009, 11:15 AM
Does McIDIOT know he picked up a couple of players in the secondary during FA? This Draft speaks of utter ignorance, probably because they fired our scouting staff a month before the draft.

Goodman will be 31 when the season starts... Dawkins will be 36... Reynaldo Hill will be 31.

Those were the free agents we signed and it's not like Champ is any younger. We have a pretty damn old secondary and I don't think Barrett is ready yet.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-26-2009, 11:15 AM
I just don't agree with this ignore the front seven phil. Nothing against bruton, but a secondary is worthless without a front seven

gyldenlove
04-26-2009, 11:15 AM
Presumably we will play a 04 front, no defensive linemen, 4 linebackers and 7 defensive backs.

gyldenlove
04-26-2009, 11:17 AM
SoCal--I think it is clear that the front office does not put a lot of value in the DL available in this draft. Do you really want them to pick a guy out of need over a prospect they have rated higher and feel more confident in? And it isn't like the picks we made were not need at need areas (with the exception of the Quinn pick).

Isn't that exactly what people here were yelling at Shanahan for doing, ignoring the defensive line because he had higher value on other positions? where did that get us?

eddie mac
04-26-2009, 11:18 AM
Bruton is a good player. We have addressed the S position that's for sure. I'm sure Drek is happy that we got one of his golden domers.

Again, though, the theme of the draft continues: the player is a quality one in the abstract, and will be helpful (and S is a position of need), but the greatest position of needs are STILL being ignored.

That should tell you something about the 5-tech quality in this draft.

Players like Gilbert, Knighton, Scott, Sammie Lee Hill have all went to base 4-3 defenses. None of these players were valued for 5 tech at all.

The only decent guys were Jackson, Raji and maybe Hood, the rest are ugly value anywhere between the 1st-4th rds.

HEAV
04-26-2009, 11:18 AM
Quite frankly, I don't particularly care what the FO thinks, since they haven't proven ****. But even if they didn't like what was there at their pick, since they were willing to piss away picks, they should have moved up for defensive prospects they did like. They absolutely have to get DL to make the 3-4 work. Our LBs are going to have the DL thrown back in their laps all season at this rate. You've got to get some 3-4 DL prospects,even if they are flawed.


I don't particularly care what the FO thinks,

Ya I'm sure they give a **** what a Mod on a fan site thinks...

SoCalBronco
04-26-2009, 11:18 AM
Ever heard of Sammie Lee hill or Terrance Taylor?

Hill just went off the board to Detroit.

Sigh.

eddie mac
04-26-2009, 11:20 AM
Isn't that exactly what people here were yelling at Shanahan for doing, ignoring the defensive line because he had higher value on other positions? where did that get us?

2007 ring a bell???

Moss, Crowder and Thomas. Not only were the first 2 reaches but we wasted 5 picks in total on those players.

barryr
04-26-2009, 11:23 AM
Shanahan would draft a guy just to feel a need, whether the guy had any kind of realistic chance of sticking in the NFL. Since they are ignoring these types, then obviously they don't think as highly about them. Whether they are right in their assessment won't be known for awhile, so people can stop the pissing and moaning already. Let the guys, oh I don't know, ACTUALLY PLAY A GAME FIRST BEFORE CALLING THEM BAD PICKS!

tsiguy96
04-26-2009, 11:23 AM
Isn't that exactly what people here were yelling at Shanahan for doing, ignoring the defensive line because he had higher value on other positions? where did that get us?

shanahan VALUED the secondary more then the dline. the VALUE in this draft at our picks is NOT on dline, it is secondary. if there were good dline available anywhere i am sure the team would have taken them.

montrose
04-26-2009, 11:25 AM
I wanted front-7 help badly, but I don't like reaching for position and judging by the drop in the alleged 5-techniques and NT's in a DL-starved league with several teams moving to the 3-4, I assume they simply must not be very good. Looks like we'll be counting heavily on Thomas, Fields, Powell and Peterson to get through 2009.

SouthStndJunkie
04-26-2009, 11:27 AM
Nice size/speed ratio at 6'2 219 pounds with 4.46 speed.

Team captain and a good leader.

Sounds like he is also a great special teams players as a bonus.

SoCalBronco
04-26-2009, 11:28 AM
Looks like we'll be counting heavily on Thomas, Fields, Powell and Peterson to get through 2009.

I'm glad that we're betting a thousand dollars on Bob's Mom showing up in playboy.

Because that's essentially what relying on Thomas, Fields, Powell and Peterson to be an effective 3-4 DL is.

That's cool, though. Let McD dig his own grave and size up his own casket.

I'll even gladly pay for some measuring tape to give to him.

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/30007_lg.jpg

eddie mac
04-26-2009, 11:32 AM
I'm glad that we're betting a thousand dollars on Bob's Mom showing up in playboy.

Because that's essentially what relying on Thomas, Fields, Powell and Peterson to be an effective 3-4 DL is.

That's cool, though. Let McD dig his own grave and size up his own casket.

I'll even gladly pay for some measuring tape to give to him.

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/30007_lg.jpg

I see where you're coming from SoCal but you cannot better your roster if the players aren't there.

Jackson going at 3 f@cked our whole draft and even KC could see the lack of value after Jackson that's why he went so high.

Mark this down, Raji is a bad fit for a 5-tech and we'll find that out when Pickett holds down the starting NT for years to come.

Hood would've been a major reach at 18 considering Pitt took him at 32 and the only other 5 techers drafted by 3-4 teams were taken by the Pats and Chiefs in Brace and Magee.

tsiguy96
04-26-2009, 11:32 AM
I'm glad that we're betting a thousand dollars on Bob's Mom showing up in playboy.

Because that's essentially what relying on Thomas, Fields, Powell and Peterson to be an effective 3-4 DL is.

That's cool, though. Let McD dig his own grave and size up his own casket.

I'll even gladly pay for some measuring tape to give to him.

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/30007_lg.jpg

if the team doesnt view anyone in the draft as much better, why would anyone bother reaching for tehm shanahan style when they can draft solid DB that they have rated much higher? its called smart drafting, drafting BPA and not for needs. BB was on the air immediately before teh draft talking that you always take BPA.

Popps
04-26-2009, 11:33 AM
Another smart, play-making type who will likely compete for a starting role at some point.

In the interim, it's obvious that McD is serious about improving the secondary and the special teams, as well. People around here bitch and moan about our kick coverage, but you need players like this to improve it.

On paper, the kid sounds pretty talented.

A little bit of video here...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563638

Hulamau
04-26-2009, 11:33 AM
Quite frankly, I don't particularly care what the FO thinks, since they haven't proven ****. But even if they didn't like what was there at their pick, since they were willing to piss away picks, they should have moved up for defensive prospects they did like. They absolutely have to get DL to make the 3-4 work. Our LBs are going to have the DL thrown back in their laps all season at this rate. You've got to get some 3-4 DL prospects,even if they are flawed.

SoCal, from listening to McD on Friday it was clear that they feel there are other priorities to rebuild this defense and not just throw bodies at the line.

McD emphasized they would only dress 5 or maybe 6 at the most Dlineman per game. We just got Ayers who should be a big upgrade on pass rush pressure while being a good run stopper on the edges as well. Just because a few of our guys last year in THAT system with that chaotic coaching stunk it up last year on the D-line, doesn't men the FO thinks the current guys were mostly to blame. They already cut a lot of dead wood up front.

They also brought in Ron Fields who, though not a Raji, is still no chump, and in the right system he can hold his own. Thomas and Powell may well step up in this regime as well, and Darrel Reid along with Doom (and perhaps Moss if we're real lucky) might well round out a serviceable rotation that is a real improvement over last two years. Not to meantion Ayers wrecking havoc from both sides of the field!

None of us know whether or not that will pan out, but obviously they have decided to add skill guys now in hopes they can both contribute this year as well as learn from guys like Dawkins, Champ and Hill while those guys are still playing at a solid level, and help provide a seamless transition in a couple years and be ready for prime time as well.

This was never going to be a one year total turn around. And each of these guys was someone they evaluated up close and personal in-depth. They had Bruton in for a couple of private work outs and obviously think highly of him.

I know we'd all love to have the top five D-linemen in the draft on our team, but maybe just having one new Stud Dlineman from the draft this year is enough to get the ball rolling in the right direction with the other guys we have as well. Darrel Reid is no slouch either.

I know you've been very disappointed since Shanny left but have faith man, its often 'appears' to be darkest before the dawn. :-) Cheers! Hula

Popps
04-26-2009, 11:35 AM
I'm glad that we're betting a thousand dollars on Bob's Mom showing up in playboy.

Because that's essentially what relying on Thomas, Fields, Powell and Peterson to be an effective 3-4 DL is.

That's cool, though. Let McD dig his own grave and size up his own casket.

I'll even gladly pay for some measuring tape to give to him.

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/30007_lg.jpg



So, you're cool with the franchise performing poorly if it ends up making you right about not liking our coach's personality?

Interesting.

nickademus
04-26-2009, 11:43 AM
I can't IMAGINE why the Broncos haven't hired you...

This stuff has to stop, football is not astro-physics. There is a reason the Pats and the Colts and the Steelers have been so good for so long they accumlate assets and then capitolize on them. while we sqander 1 rounders they are trading up for future picks. I dont hate the player we took I hate the trade we made to get him.

BroncosinDC
04-26-2009, 11:43 AM
I'm not entirely pleased with where the draft has gone, like many I wanted a DL and drafting a RB was something I never saw coming. But I'm starting to be ok with this for the long term, great Defenses always have some amazing players in the secondary. Who knows maybe we have drafted this era's version of Atwater/Smith. I just wish we had an over the top ILB. One thing about a 3-4 is while the DL is important there are still gaps that have to be assigned to someone else, an outside run essientially leaves only one linemen with a shot at making the play. A pass rush is always at least 3 on 5 without having a strong linebacking group the DL simply can't do it all.

lex
04-26-2009, 11:44 AM
I don't particularly care what the FO thinks,

Ya I'm sure they give a **** what a Mod on a fan site thinks...

I seem to remember Pat sending a letter to fans giving their version of the Cutler debacle that led to him being traded. Its hard to reconcile that with saying the FO doesnt care what the fans think. Their problem is that they do whatever they want and then try to spin it later. Some people are dumb enough to believe anything.

barryr
04-26-2009, 11:45 AM
So, you're cool with the franchise performing poorly if it ends up making you right about not liking our coach's personality?

Interesting.

Of course he is. He must be a teenybopper to have such an immature way of thinking.

Hercules Rockefeller
04-26-2009, 11:45 AM
This stuff has to stop, football is not astro-physics. There is a reason the Pats and the Colts and the Steelers have been so good for so long they accumlate assets and then capitolize on them. while we sqander 1 rounders they are trading up for future picks. I dont hate the player we took I hate the trade we made to get him.

Those are also built teams that have few holes to fill. They can afford to trade for future picks when they don't need immediate. Not defending the trade because it was terrible, but Denver is not in a position to trade for future picks at this point because they are not a deep team, nor a good team.

SoCalBronco
04-26-2009, 11:48 AM
I seem to remember Pat sending a letter to fans giving their version of the Cutler debacle that led to him being traded. Its hard to reconcile that with saying the FO doesnt care what the fans think. Their problem is that they do whatever they want and then try to spin it later. Some people are dumb enough to believe anything.

Yep.

Bowlen's letter and 60 cents would get you a small mediocre cup of coffee on the 2nd floor of where I work.

Bowlen's letter and 90 cents would get you a larger mediocre cup of coffee on the 2nd floor of where I work.

broncocalijohn
04-26-2009, 11:48 AM
This draft was piss poor at NT beyond Raji. You guys want us to draft a NT just for the sake of it even if there are better guys available?

Without racking my brain to remember and looking up free agency at the beginning of it a few months back, did we address it sufficiently in free agency knowing they might not like anyone in the draft? Maybe they did and the combines proved otherwise. If it was the first, they choked.

Hulamau
04-26-2009, 11:51 AM
And I don't see any DT left from #14 on down that O would have taken over Carlton Powell. Powell will be like a rookie we've already paid for and yet has learned the ropes of the NFL and knows the team.

Let see what he can do before assuming his a wasted pick! That is making good value from your picks as well. The guy hasn't even had a chance to see the field yet!

BroncoInferno
04-26-2009, 11:51 AM
Without racking my brain to remember and looking up free agency at the beginning of it a few months back, did we address it sufficiently in free agency knowing they might not like anyone in the draft? Maybe they did and the combines proved otherwise. If it was the first, they choked.

We signed Ron Fields. He is no world beater, but should be decent enough. The fact is the FA and draft classes were both thin at the NT spot. It will probably have to be addressed long term next season, but Fields will be OK for now.

barryr
04-26-2009, 12:26 PM
This stuff has to stop, football is not astro-physics. There is a reason the Pats and the Colts and the Steelers have been so good for so long they accumlate assets and then capitolize on them. while we sqander 1 rounders they are trading up for future picks. I dont hate the player we took I hate the trade we made to get him.

Of course it helps those 2 teams draft well from year to year, so they don't have to trade up so much for players since they already have good players. Just look at the Bronco defense and draft record for defense the last 5-10 years. If this team had wasted so many picks on players on defense who didn't pan out, then maybe the Broncos wouldn't have had to make a deal for Smith. Heck, it wasn't long ago Shanahan spent 3 high picks on CB's in the same draft and none of them are around, much less did much.

Never Trust a Snake
04-26-2009, 01:06 PM
McDumbass

Get your lips off Charlie Weis' prick you ****ing ******

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goldengopher1976
04-26-2009, 01:13 PM
mayock is saying he LOVES the picks and doesnt even mind where they were taken, but the only complaint he has about our picks are HOW we got some of them.

but in general, he is very, very satisfied with the picks.

Good enough for me. I'm inclined to believe Mayock over all the doomsday prognosticators on the Mane. As always, time will tell...

Never Trust a Snake
04-26-2009, 01:21 PM
Bruton looks like a stud with his chiseled physique, but he's a wuss on the field.

Paladin
04-26-2009, 01:48 PM
McDumbass

Get your lips off Charlie Weis' prick you ****ing ******

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Well, that certainly was an un-intelligent contribution to the conversation. Probably matches your Football IQ, huh? Why don't you go to beddy bye now, and your moiommy can read you a night-night story.....

Dumbarse.....

Never Trust a Snake
04-26-2009, 01:56 PM
Well, that certainly was an un-intelligent contribution to the conversation. Probably matches your Football IQ, huh? Why don't you go to beddy bye now, and your moiommy can read you a night-night story.....

Dumbarse.....

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