View Full Version : Alphonso Smith

04-26-2009, 09:48 AM
Has anyone heard the conf. call on Smith? I wasn't excited about giving up a first next year for this guy, but after hearing the conf. call I have to admint that I am really pumped about this kid.:thumbs:

04-26-2009, 09:50 AM
i watched a NFL.com breakdown on him...

he was expected to go in the 1st round and early 2nd at the latest...

he has a 1st round grade so i guess i can understand McD's strategy...

i look forward to watching him...

04-26-2009, 09:51 AM
We definitely overspent. But I maintain most of our picks are pretty solid selections speaking strictly from the standpoint of the quality of the football player. We just need someone to teach these guys how to haggle and play the numbers.

04-26-2009, 09:53 AM
Probably didn't need to trade up for him.

Undersized CBs drop look at D.J. Moore who still has not been drafted and is 5'8.5'' and was ranked in the top 40 draft prospects.

04-26-2009, 11:14 AM
I disagree. Since 2 CB's were taken not long after the Broncos took Smith and before their original 2nd rounder, chances are not good that Smith would have been there if the Broncos had stayed put. Giving up a 1st rounder for a player you feel is the best at his position in the draft is not overpaying. If he doesn't play up to that level, THEN you can say they overpaid.

04-26-2009, 11:34 AM
This is all speculation anyway. All the naysayers act like we're guaranteed to get a superstar with this pick next year.

04-26-2009, 11:43 AM
This is all speculation anyway. All the naysayers act like we're guaranteed to get a superstar with this pick next year.

Love the talent - but he is undersized and it will kill his production. He wants to come in and compete for a starting job, so he has the right attitude, instincts, and awareness to start in the next 1-2 years. But his size will be his demise. And YES IT WAS complete BS on the price paid to get him. I would have rather drafted Jenkins with the same 2010 pick and a RB. Hopefully he returns 3-4 Punts for TD's this year.


Conv Call: http://www.denverbroncos.com/

04-26-2009, 11:45 AM
He's a D-Will clone .... not quite as fast though.

I read if he was 3 inches taller, he would have been a Top 10 pick, so that sounds great.

04-26-2009, 11:47 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=4><SPACER width="3" type="block" height="1"></TD><TD>“</TD><TD width=225>When it comes to corners, big is better because you also have to tackle receivers. Even though some of the smaller receivers did well last year, it's still a big receiver league.”</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=4><SPACER width="3" type="block" height="1"></TD><TD></TD><TD width=225>—Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

04-26-2009, 11:49 AM
"When you have to cover big receivers, it's a physical matchup," Allen said. "If I had a choice between going against Steve Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5521) or Terrell Owens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3664), I would pick Terrell Owens. He's not going to be as quick. With a bigger receiver, you can get up in his face and be physical. With a smaller receiver like Smith, you almost have to play a Cover 2 with a cornerback underneath and a safety on top, and you are not going to be as physical after 5 yards."

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2006/0426/nfl_a_allen_275.jpg <CITE>Kevin C Cox/Wireimage.com</CITE>Allen, left, believes that small receivers are more likely to give him trouble.

Still, the success of Smith and Santana Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5463) opened offenses' eyes to the advantage of the quick receivers who can get a lot of yards after the catch. It's forcing teams to upgrade the ratings on the smaller, quicker cornerbacks who can run with the receivers.

And that's a smart move, considering research shows that bigger defenders have a shorter longevity.
"In a 10-year study he did of cornerbacks, he noticed that the taller cornerbacks usually don't make it," Titans general manager Floyd Reese said. "How many 6-2 cornerbacks are there in the league?"
Currently, the NFL has only four starting cornerbacks who are 6-2: Gary Baxter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5509) of the Browns, Julian Battle (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6428) of the Chiefs, Andre Woolfolk (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6364) of the Titans and Mike Rumph (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5913) of the 49ers, who played a little safety in the past two seasons. There are no 6-3 corners starting in the league.
"The optimum height is about 5-11," Reese said. "Many of the taller cornerbacks tend to get hurt."
Bigger cornerbacks tend to be more physical, which leads to more injuries. Bigger cornerbacks don't fear contact. That leaves them as targets sometimes.
"Big corners like being physical with wideouts," Allen said. "I had two years at cornerback in college and two years at safety. I know coach Saban likes big defensive backs because he tried to recruit me out of high school to play safety. All I know is there is a lot of talent out there at cornerback. I think there will be a lot of guys who will come in and play."
Whether they are big or short, cornerbacks will loom large Saturday in the draft.

John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

04-26-2009, 11:53 AM
He's a D-Will clone .... not quite as fast though.

I read if he was 3 inches taller, he would have been a Top 10 pick, so that sounds great.

I don't think he's much like D-Will at all. I think NFL.com has it nailed in comparing him to Dre Bly.

D-Will played strong and hit hard for a guy his size and was quick to react on plays to his side of the field. But he was never a ballhawk by any stretch.

Smith is much like Bly in that his strengths primarily lie in great ball skills and man cover technique. He isn't going to step up in the running game as much as D-Will did, but he's much more likely to create turnovers in coverage, especially when playing in the slot.

I know Dre Bly's name brings negative connotations on this board, but prior to Marinelli putting him in the Tampa 2, then him coming here and getting old, Dre Bly was a top 5 corner in the NFL. He was a multiple pro-bowler and he caused a ton of turnovers.

I'm not real happy with giving up the first, but I'll reserve judgment on that until the verdict as to what exactly we gave up is in. As for Smith himself, I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be the best CB in this class, and this CB class looks better to me now than the 2010 class does. We needed a CB in the next two years, the FO made a heads up decision of identifying a guy they really like and being aggressive in acquiring him. Can't much fault the thought process in that respect.

SoDak Bronco
04-26-2009, 11:53 AM
5. Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team. He signed three running backs in free agency and drafted another (Knowshon Moreno (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=24685)). And then he sent Denver's first-round choice in 2010 to Seattle for this year's 37th overall choice, which he used to pick cornerback Alphonso Smith (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?draftyear=2009&id=23927). That's bizarre. Mike Shanahan must be laughing at that one.

from John Clayton..We've quickly become the joke of the league

04-26-2009, 11:54 AM
It’s not a coincidence that Malcolm Jenkins, Vontae Davis and Darius Butler are expected to come off the board in the first round, as each exhibits the necessary skills required for the position and also fit the mold of a big corner.
However, teams focused exclusively on identifying big corners are missing out on a host of talented, but miniature, corners with elite talent.
Alphonso Smith, D.J. Moore and Jairus Byrd (http://seahawknationblog.com/goto/http://seahawknationblog.com/tag/jairus-byrd/) are a gifted trio of ball-hawking corners who, unfortunately, measure in below the 5-10 standard. Though they combined for 50 interceptions during their careers, their lack of prototypical height and size is one of the reasons they are not at the top of some draft boards.

Smith, who finished his career at Wake Forest (http://seahawknationblog.com/goto/http://seahawknationblog.com/tag/wake-forest/) with 21 career interceptions, is one of the best ball-hawks available in this draft. He is an ultra aggressive route jumper who has a knack (http://seahawknationblog.com/goto/http://seahawknationblog.com/tag/knack/) for reading the quarterback’s eyes and making plays on the ball. Smith’s penchant (http://seahawknationblog.com/goto/http://seahawknationblog.com/tag/penchant/) for coming up with the game-changing turnover is a skill coveted by many coaches, but his lack of ideal height will prevent some from pulling the trigger.

Rank Player School Height Weight Projected round
4. Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5-9 193 2
Analysis: The former Demon Deacon is a sensational cover man with unbelievable ball skills. Smith finished his career with 21 interceptions and produced numerous game-changing plays. As a fluid athlete with outstanding quickness, Smith overcomes his lack of ideal size by relying on his superior cover skills and outstanding leaping ability to win matchups on the edge. Though Smith is ideally suited to be a nickel corner, he is a playmaker who will eventually earn his way into a starting lineup.NFL landing spot: The diminutive ball hawk would upgrade the Browns’ secondary, if picked at No. 36 or serve as a quality nickel corner for the Dolphins (No. 44), Texans (No. 46) or Patriots (No. 47).