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Broncoman13
04-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Supposedly they were talking about it on the air here in Denver.

Browns send:
Quinn
Braylon Edwards

Broncos send:
Orton
Marshall
Scheffler

I didn't hear it myself... anyone else out there hear this? I asked if it was speculation or a suggestion for a possible trade and supposedly it was stated in the context of multiple sources reporting it from Cleveland. What's the word?

TheDave
04-24-2009, 12:28 PM
What?

Ray Finkle
04-24-2009, 12:29 PM
Is it possible to both vomit and shet yourself in disgust? That is about what I would do if that trade went down.

Denver724
04-24-2009, 12:29 PM
Awful. Just friggin awful.

Inkana7
04-24-2009, 12:30 PM
Hilarious!

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 12:31 PM
throw in Shaun Rogers and swap 1st rounders...

empulse
04-24-2009, 12:32 PM
Uh, What?!?

Slade
04-24-2009, 12:33 PM
Unlike most I wouldn't mind this scenario. Marshall is a time bomb waiting to expload with his off field issues...moving him for Braylon Edwards IMO is even skill wise, but Braylon doesn't have the same off field issues.

Quinn has more upside than Orton. And Sheffler as much as I like him is as good as gone with JC gone and the signing of Putzier. The NE offense doesn't value the pass catching TE, it values...Dan Grahmn!

The net result is we are better off!

Rohirrim
04-24-2009, 12:34 PM
If that trade went down I would have to start believing the conspiracy theories that McD is a plant sent by Belichick to destroy the Broncos.

SoDak Bronco
04-24-2009, 12:35 PM
throw in Shaun Rogers and swap 1st rounders...

NO NO NO..Quin Sucks, Braylon is a premadonna that can't catch and Rogers is a fatty that got paid. Lets stay away from the Browns, remember how that worked when they were the Brownco's dline?

Pass, lets just not go there.

dbfan21
04-24-2009, 12:35 PM
Not gonna do it...wouldn't be prudent..at this...juncture.

Hotrod
04-24-2009, 12:36 PM
This would work for me :)

Browns send:
1st round pick
Quinn
Braylon Edwards

Broncos send:
Orton
Marshall
Scheffler

Slade
04-24-2009, 12:36 PM
NO NO NO..Quin Sucks, Braylon is a premadonna that can't catch and Rogers is a fatty that got paid. Lets stay away from the Browns, remember how that worked when they were the Brownco's dline?

Pass, lets just not go there.

How do you figure Quinn sucks? If Quinn sucks then Orton does too!

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 12:37 PM
Unlike most I wouldn't mind this scenario. Marshall is a time bomb waiting to expload with his off field issues...moving him for Braylon Edwards IMO is even skill wise, but Braylon doesn't have the same off field issues.

Quinn has more upside than Orton. And Sheffler as much as I like him is as good as gone with JC gone and the signing of Putzier. The NE offense doesn't value the pass catching TE, it values...Dan Grahmn!

The net result is we are better off!

really?...

that trade basically implies that Quinn>Orton and/or Edwards>Marshall which on both counts i disagree...

socalorado
04-24-2009, 12:38 PM
This would work for me :)

Browns send:
1st round pick
Quinn
Braylon Edwards

Broncos send:
Orton
Marshall
Scheffler

:thumbs:

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 12:38 PM
How do you figure Quinn sucks? If Quinn sucks then Orton does too!

why is that?...

Orton has experience as a starter in this league and has a winning record...

Quinn has barely played...

so why is it that if Quin sucks...Orton sucks?...

Beantown Bronco
04-24-2009, 12:39 PM
If they're going to make these kind of moves, I just hope they have the common decency to do it before I have to pay for this year's Sunday Ticket Superfan package.

Hotrod
04-24-2009, 12:39 PM
If they're going to make these kind of moves, I just hope they have the common decency to do it before I have to pay for this year's Sunday Ticket Superfan package.

LOL

Popcorn Sutton
04-24-2009, 12:40 PM
This is bunk. Brian Daboll the OC in Cleveland is implementing a New England style offense. That is why they sent Winslow packing as soon as they could. They do not want Scheffler.

socalorado
04-24-2009, 12:41 PM
What this about the Patsies trying to move up ahenad of DEN?!?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/04/24/draft/index.html?eref=sircrc

Why? What player do the covet?


KANSAS CITY -- Busy night. Very busy night, as the Lions and agents for Matthew Stafford moved closer to a deal to make the Georgia quarterback the first pick in Saturday's NFL's draft.
I think the financial parameters of a deal will be done in principle by late this afternoon, though it may not be signed for a while because of its complexity. But you can take it to the bank: Stafford's going to be a Detroit Lion.
***
Busy morning. The Patriots are trying to move up into the top 10 of the draft -- but low in the top 10. Executives from two teams tell me New England offered its first-round pick and middle of three second-round picks (the 23rd and 47th picks overall) to Jacksonville for the eighth pick in the draft. Jacksonville GM Gene Smith, I'm told, said no ... but I also hear the Patriots might be looking to Green Bay at nine to move as well.
Who might be the object of their affection? I'm told it may be a surprise, because smart money would say the target is LSU's Tyson Jackson, the best 3-4 defensive end in the draft and the only end versatile enough to play every spot on the defensive line. But I'm not sure it's Jackson. I think it might be an offensive player. Sorry to be so cryptic, but I truly don't know.
The Patriots are Fort Knox on draft weekend -- and, for that matter, on every weekend. Remember last year? New England traded down from seven to 10 in the first round and got the object of its affection, Tennessee linebacker Jerod Mayo (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8787), and no one ever knew Mayo was their man (well, except that draft oracle Donnie Brasco (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/04/25/mock.draft7.page1/index.html)).
It makes infinite sense that New England would want the eighth or ninth pick, because the line of demarcation between sanity and insanity in the top 10 is right there. Check out the money that each of the players between six and 10 in last year's draft would earn with minimum play-time incentives in their five-year contracts:
6. Vernon Gholston (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8783), Jets $32.5 million
7. Sedrick Ellis (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8785), New Orleans $32 million
8. Derrick Harvey (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8784), Jacksonville $23 million
9. Keith Rivers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8786), Cincinnati $19 million
10. Jerod Mayo, New England $16 million
Now for my Five Things I Think I Think on Draft Eve:
1. I think the one misleading thing about the draft, as we sit here 30 hours from its start, is that there's not a lot of trade action near the top. Near the very top, no. I had one GM in the top half of the draft tell me there's a flurry of activity between eight and 13, and it will get a lot busier if Mark Sanchez, the USC quarterback, is sitting there at No. 8, when the Jaguars pick. If that happens, I expect Jags GM Gene Smith to be the power broker of the draft, turning the eighth pick into three picks in the first three rounds of the next two drafts.
2. I think the Chiefs pick is coming down to Wake Forest linebacker Aaron Curry or LSU's Tyson Jackson.
3. I think the Raiders are seriously considering Darrius Heyward-Bey or Jeremy Maclin at seven, which makes sense because they're the fastest high-profile players in the draft. I hear Raider coach Tom Cable was on the phone with Maclin last night.
4. I think, traveling across the state of Missouri by car Thursday afternoon and listening to Sirius XM NFL Radio, I was stunned to hear the negative fan reaction to the Tony Gonzalez (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/3950) trade for a 2010 second-round pick.
The Chiefs, last year, couldn't get anything better than a third-rounder (and a late-third-rounder, obviously, if it would have been coming from the Eagles) in an offer for Gonzalez. And now they get a two, albeit in 2010. Sounds likes a good deal to me for a player in his 13th year, at age 33.
Yet the reaction to Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan on their afternoon show was fairly venomous. Fans will be fans, but come on. This team won six games the past two years. Time to think of 2010.
5. I think if you read nothing else from me until after the draft (and I'll be back here Saturday morning with a few short thoughts), please, please, please remember not to get too fired up and think you've won anything in April. I remind you of the following top-15 picks in the last six years: Charles Rogers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6338), Dewayne Robertson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6340), Johnathan Sullivan (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6342), Jimmy Kennedy (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6348), Michael Haynes (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6350), Jerome McDougle (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6351), Robert Gallery (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6761), Reggie Williams (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/6768), Alex Smith (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/7247), Cedric Benson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/7180), Troy Williamson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/7183), Mike Williams (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/7186), Michael Huff (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/7756), Jamaal Anderson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/8262). In other words, simmer down.

24champ
04-24-2009, 12:44 PM
Supposedly they were talking about it on the air here in Denver.

Browns send:
Quinn
Braylon Edwards

Broncos send:
Orton
Marshall
Scheffler

I didn't hear it myself... anyone else out there hear this? I asked if it was speculation or a suggestion for a possible trade and supposedly it was stated in the context of multiple sources reporting it from Cleveland. What's the word?

DOOOO IT.
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I'd love to see this place go bonkers and we will also find out who the real kool-aid drinkers are in this place.LOL

Hotrod
04-24-2009, 12:44 PM
Oskie did you get this from anyone reliable???

Do you think it even makes sense???

Just curious of your take on it.

Slade
04-24-2009, 12:45 PM
really?...

that trade basically implies that Quinn>Orton and/or Edwards>Marshall which on both counts i disagree...

I think that Quinn=Orton and Edwards>Marshall (b/c of Marshalls off field issues. Next time he gets in trouble we lose him for half the season.)

Edwards fits better into the NE offense anyway.

If this is the case we would have completely lost our young offensive nucleus of JC, BMarsh, and Sheff, but I feel like our hand has been forced and we will not be too much worse for it. And if our draft picks from JC pan out we will be better.

Slade
04-24-2009, 12:46 PM
why is that?...

Orton has experience as a starter in this league and has a winning record...

Quinn has barely played...

so why is it that if Quin sucks...Orton sucks?...

They are both system quarterbacks. Quinn is more accurate than Orton also.

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 12:47 PM
I think that Quinn=Orton and Edwards>Marshall (b/c of Marshalls off field issues. Next time he gets in trouble we lose him for half the season.)

Edwards fits better into the NE offense anyway.

If this is the case we would have completely lost our young offensive nucleus of JC, BMarsh, and Sheff, but I feel like our hand has been forced and we will not be too much worse for it. And if our draft picks from JC pan out we will be better.

i can understand Marhsall's off the field issues lean you towards Edwards some, but why is Quinn better than Orton?...Quinn has done nothing in this league...

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 12:48 PM
They are both system quarterbacks. Quinn is more accurate than Orton also.

since when?...

what are you basing this off of?...

Tombstone RJ
04-24-2009, 12:49 PM
5 things I know I think:

1. Peter King sucks
2. Peter King sucks
3. Peter King sucks
4. Peter King sucks
5. Peter King sucks

Rohirrim
04-24-2009, 12:53 PM
I think Quinn is more interested in his modeling career anyway. ;D

Slade
04-24-2009, 12:54 PM
i can understand Marhsall's off the field issues lean you towards Edwards some, but why is Quinn better than Orton?...Quinn has done nothing in this league...

I said Quinn=Orton. They are both system quarterbacks who in the pros haven't shown much, although Orton has one some games. In doing so hasn't show he would be a good fit in our offense since he has only complete 56% of his passes. Therefore if you need to look at both college careers of Quinn and Orton. Quinn played for Weis in a similar offense and excelled as did Orton. That is why I say they are =

In all honesty Orton has a better pro record so he is a little better, but doesn't have the same potential.

socalorado
04-24-2009, 12:55 PM
5 things I know I think:

1. Peter King sucks
2. Peter King sucks
3. Peter King sucks
4. Peter King sucks
5. Peter King sucks

And it sucks even more when hes right about a pats rumor.
F***, its like King sucks off belicheat every week.

I swear, more than anything else i hope every pick the Pats make is a guy who is immediately caught with 50 grams of blow a dead body, the gun that murdered the dead body and a under age hooker.

Traveler
04-24-2009, 12:56 PM
Let's see...

If we are becoming Patriots West, how does this rumor compare to the NE personnel?

Edwards=Moss? Pass
Quinn=Brady? Pass
Sheffler=Watson? Pass

Miss I.
04-24-2009, 12:56 PM
Oskie, did you also go to the beach and talk to Shanny and take him fishing or perhaps heard it on the train? Or better yet from a reliable source like WPI....;D just teasing...hmm, not sure personally how I would feel about it. Quinn hasn't done anything yet, but doesn't mean he won't. I figure I won't worry about it until or if it happens.

and here's an article that in effect says the Browns say no to a trade with Denver for Quinn, but... leaving the door open

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/04/report_cleveland_browns_tell_b.html

Hotrod
04-24-2009, 12:57 PM
I think Quinn is more interested in his modeling career anyway. ;D

Not to mention a possible locker room distraction

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/brady_quinn_crotch.jpg

El Guapo
04-24-2009, 12:58 PM
What?

That was my first reaction as well. WTF?

Hercules Rockefeller
04-24-2009, 01:01 PM
and here's an article that in effect says the Browns say no to a trade with Denver for Quinn, but... leaving the door open

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/04/report_cleveland_browns_tell_b.html

They just repeated what the Denver Post said

Slade
04-24-2009, 01:02 PM
since when?...

what are you basing this off of?...


Believe me...I bleed orange and blue as much as the next guy and if Orton is our QB next year I will love him. I am just stating the facts

Florida_Bronco
04-24-2009, 01:04 PM
Sheffler as much as I like him is as good as gone with JC gone and the signing of Putzier. The NE offense doesn't value the pass catching TE, it values...Dan Grahmn!

Where do people keep getting this? When McD had both Graham and Watson, both were major parts of the offense. Watson and Scheffler are the same exact skillset.

This idea that McD will have no use for Scheffler is mind boggling.

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 01:04 PM
I said Quinn=Orton. They are both system quarterbacks who in the pros haven't shown much, although Orton has one some games. In doing so hasn't show he would be a good fit in our offense since he has only complete 56% of his passes. Therefore if you need to look at both college careers of Quinn and Orton. Quinn played for Weis in a similar offense and excelled as did Orton. That is why I say they are =

In all honesty Orton has a better pro record so he is a little better, but doesn't have the same potential.

okay then...

i think it's fair to say Brady has more upside, but going by the current bodies of work in the pro game there is no way Brady is even equal to Orton...Quinn just hasn't played enough to make that assessment...

but if you prefer Quinn, i guess i can see why...but i'll take Orton...

Slade
04-24-2009, 01:06 PM
okay then...

i think it's fair to say Brady has more upside, but going by the current bodies of work in the pro game there is no way Brady is even equal to Orton...Quinn just hasn't played enough to make that assessment...

but if you prefer Quinn, i guess i can see why...but i'll take Orton...

Haha...cool!

Who knows if this is even a possibility, but we need something to talk about with so much time before the draft!

DomCasual
04-24-2009, 01:15 PM
Braylon Edwards catches everything he can get his hands on, and most of the stuff he can't. He would be like one of those fly tapes here.

Traveler
04-24-2009, 01:28 PM
Braylon Edwards catches everything he can get his hands on, and most of the stuff he can't. He would be like one of those fly tapes here.

Wow! The sarcasm is kinda thick Dom.:notworthy

uplink
04-24-2009, 01:36 PM
Brady Quinn in Denver, better pass out the codpieces in the locker room.

Kaylore
04-24-2009, 01:40 PM
If that trade went down I would have to start believing the conspiracy theories that McD is a plant sent by Belichick to destroy the Broncos.

Yeah I actually would too. If they did that I would join the "Fire" McDaniels bandwagon.

Quinn is a such a girl. His "This loss is on me" crap he pulled when we beat him on prime time - that was just him trying to show the media his "awesome leadership". I want no part of that guy.

bowtown
04-24-2009, 01:41 PM
Where do people keep getting this? When McD had both Graham and Watson, both were major parts of the offense. Watson and Scheffler are the same exact skillset.

This idea that McD will have no use for Scheffler is mind boggling.

It's the old addage: If ESPN says things enough times, people believe it.

Rohirrim
04-24-2009, 01:43 PM
Yeah I actually would too. If they did that I would join the "Fire" McDaniels bandwagon.

Quinn is a such a girl. His "This loss is on me" crap he pulled when we beat him on prime time - that was just him trying to show the media his "awesome leadership". I want no part of that guy.

McD should think this through. The day he brings in Quinn, Weigmann retires. Ha!

empulse
04-24-2009, 01:44 PM
From PFT: Interesting. . . .

Browns’ Message to Denver: Quinn Is Unavailable (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/24/browns-message-to-denver-quinn-is-unavailable/)

Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 24, 2009, 3:10 p.m. EDT

The Cleveland Browns didn’t bite Thursday when the Denver Broncos called them about a potential trade for quarterback Brady Quinn.
Instead of exploring the “preliminary” inquiry, Browns team officials informed the Broncos that the former Notre Dame star isn’t available (http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/04/report_cleveland_browns_tell_b.html), according to Mary Cay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Will that stance change during the NFL Draft?
Per the report, this development doesn’t necessarily preclude the two teams from doing business during the draft.
The Broncos are reportedly extremely interested in USC quarterback Mark Sanchez and could try to hammer out a trade with the Browns if Sanchez is on the board at Cleveland’s No. 5 overall selection. The Browns may have interest of their own in Sanchez.
The Broncos certainly have the ammunition to move up, holding the 12th and 18th overall picks of the first round following the trade that sent Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears.

Miss I.
04-24-2009, 01:45 PM
Yeah I actually would too. If they did that I would join the "Fire" McDaniels bandwagon.

Quinn is a such a girl. His "This loss is on me" crap he pulled when we beat him on prime time - that was just him trying to show the media his "awesome leadership". I want no part of that guy.

Kaylore while I loathe to disagree with you on any point, because when it comes to football, you are like Mr. Miagi to my sadly lacking Daniel-son, I would have to say I would prefer that kind of media face then mopey mc 3 year old throwing his team under the bus cook. While he may be a bit too slick, if the guy is a real leader with actual talent I would take him in a heartbeat if the deal was right or I would hope the FO would if it was to our advantage to do so.

El Guapo
04-24-2009, 01:52 PM
From PFT: Interesting. . . .

That's what Denver should have done about Cutler. argh. Anyway, like I said, rid yourself of the avatar.

mr007
04-24-2009, 02:31 PM
rid yourself of the avatar.

Get Slade to get rid of his too if you're successful!

Broncoman13
04-24-2009, 02:32 PM
Oskie did you get this from anyone reliable???

Do you think it even makes sense???

Just curious of your take on it.


It was somebody that was listening to local radio. No insider or anything like that. I was mainly just wondering if anyone else heard it. I think the answer is this was discussed and then rejected, but by the Browns as they decided to keep Quinn.

Here is an interesting one for you. The Giants are rumored to be in love with DHB and his 4.2 speed. They also know that they cannot get him at #29. They refused to send Kiwanuka to Cleveland, so Braylon Edwards is off the board for them. But, they were prepared to send a first (#29) a second (#45 from NO) and a 5th for Edwards. Those picks put them up around the #13-15 range... hmmmmm... I'd probably have to think pretty long and hard at #29, #45, and probably a 4th to get to our #12. Another possibility is DHB slides to #18. We would then be in a perfect place to send #18 to the Giants for #29 and #60. Since they would be looking for the trade they would likely eat the small difference in points. This isn't rumor, the Giants are looking to move up. With whom is the question.

Currently the players slotted to go around #29... Percy Harvin, Beanie Wells, Vontae Davis, James Laurinaitis and Darius Butler. Players slotted to go around #45... Clint Sintim, Connor Barwin, Hakeem Nicks, William Moore, Max Unger. Players slotted to go around #60... Shonn Greene, Jarron Gilbert, Derrick Williams, Ron Brace, Lawrence Sidbury, Eric Wood.

#12 Brian Cushing
#29 Beanie Wells/Knowshon Moreno/Donald Brown
#48 Connor Barwin
#60 Ron Brace (slotted here but I don't think he'll last this long???)
#79 Paul Kruger
#84 Jasper Brinkley

Slade
04-24-2009, 02:38 PM
Get Slade to get rid of his too if you're successful!

I am not sure why you want my av gone, but I did it!

Lestat
04-24-2009, 02:41 PM
that's a terrible trade. i'd rather just keep Orton. but it is funny how much the Broncos have been rumored to want a QB after McDaniels supposedly wanted Orton over other QB's

mr007
04-24-2009, 02:52 PM
I am not sure why you want my av gone, but I did it!

haha it was just a bit creepy... some dude in shades showin' pit... I dunno.

TheDave
04-24-2009, 02:53 PM
that's a terrible trade. i'd rather just keep Orton. but it is funny how much the Broncos have been rumored to want a QB after McDaniels supposedly wanted Orton over other QB's

'cause unlike some of the kool-aid drinkers around here EVERYONE ELSE realizes we just took a major step backwards with Orton.

broncofan7
04-24-2009, 03:02 PM
If that trade went down I would have to start believing the conspiracy theories that McD is a plant sent by Belichick to destroy the Broncos.

Cosign.

Garcia Bronco
04-24-2009, 03:03 PM
Is it possible to both vomit and shet yourself in disgust? That is about what I would do if that trade went down.

yes. It's called "coming out of both ends"

broncofan7
04-24-2009, 03:04 PM
'cause unlike some of the kool-aid drinkers around here EVERYONE ELSE realizes we just took a major step backwards with Orton.

EXACTLY.

Hotrod
04-24-2009, 03:12 PM
It was somebody that was listening to local radio. No insider or anything like that. I was mainly just wondering if anyone else heard it. I think the answer is this was discussed and then rejected, but by the Browns as they decided to keep Quinn.

Here is an interesting one for you. The Giants are rumored to be in love with DHB and his 4.2 speed. They also know that they cannot get him at #29. They refused to send Kiwanuka to Cleveland, so Braylon Edwards is off the board for them. But, they were prepared to send a first (#29) a second (#45 from NO) and a 5th for Edwards. Those picks put them up around the #13-15 range... hmmmmm... I'd probably have to think pretty long and hard at #29, #45, and probably a 4th to get to our #12. Another possibility is DHB slides to #18. We would then be in a perfect place to send #18 to the Giants for #29 and #60. Since they would be looking for the trade they would likely eat the small difference in points. This isn't rumor, the Giants are looking to move up. With whom is the question.

Currently the players slotted to go around #29... Percy Harvin, Beanie Wells, Vontae Davis, James Laurinaitis and Darius Butler. Players slotted to go around #45... Clint Sintim, Connor Barwin, Hakeem Nicks, William Moore, Max Unger. Players slotted to go around #60... Shonn Greene, Jarron Gilbert, Derrick Williams, Ron Brace, Lawrence Sidbury, Eric Wood.

#12 Brian Cushing
#29 Beanie Wells/Knowshon Moreno/Donald Brown
#48 Connor Barwin
#60 Ron Brace (slotted here but I don't think he'll last this long???)
#79 Paul Kruger
#84 Jasper Brinkley


I would think long and hard about either 12 or 18 in that situation. Of course that is if the faid dont screw it up to begin with.

I want Wells but everyone here knows that by now Ha!

oubronco
04-24-2009, 03:13 PM
Supposedly they were talking about it on the air here in Denver.

Browns send:
Quinn
Braylon Edwards

Broncos send:
Orton
Marshall
Scheffler

I didn't hear it myself... anyone else out there hear this? I asked if it was speculation or a suggestion for a possible trade and supposedly it was stated in the context of multiple sources reporting it from Cleveland. What's the word?

I wouldn't put it past McDyckhead

BroncoMan4ever
04-24-2009, 03:15 PM
This would work for me :)

Browns send:
1st round pick
Quinn
Braylon Edwards

Broncos send:
Orton
Marshall
Scheffler

i'd do that deal as well.

Orange_Beard
04-24-2009, 03:24 PM
I think that Quinn=Orton and Edwards>Marshall (b/c of Marshalls off field issues. Next time he gets in trouble we lose him for half the season.)

Edwards fits better into the NE offense anyway.

If this is the case we would have completely lost our young offensive nucleus of JC, BMarsh, and Sheff, but I feel like our hand has been forced and we will not be too much worse for it. And if our draft picks from JC pan out we will be better.

Quinn=Orton, that's not saying much. Plus Quinn get's paid alot more. Edwards drops passes.

eddie mac
04-24-2009, 03:30 PM
Edwards is a useless lead handed **** who quit on his team.

**** him and **** the Browns.

Paladin
04-24-2009, 03:50 PM
And it sucks even more when hes right about a pats rumor.
****, its like King sucks off belicheat every week.

I swear, more than anything else i hope every pick the Pats make is a guy who is immediately caught with 50 grams of blow a dead body, the gun that murdered the dead body and a under age hooker.

Because the deeds were not on film, they would be fined $5000 each and told to not do it again.

Hotrod
04-24-2009, 03:52 PM
It was somebody that was listening to local radio. No insider or anything like that. I was mainly just wondering if anyone else heard it. I think the answer is this was discussed and then rejected, but by the Browns as they decided to keep Quinn.

Here is an interesting one for you. The Giants are rumored to be in love with DHB and his 4.2 speed. They also know that they cannot get him at #29. They refused to send Kiwanuka to Cleveland, so Braylon Edwards is off the board for them. But, they were prepared to send a first (#29) a second (#45 from NO) and a 5th for Edwards. Those picks put them up around the #13-15 range... hmmmmm... I'd probably have to think pretty long and hard at #29, #45, and probably a 4th to get to our #12. Another possibility is DHB slides to #18. We would then be in a perfect place to send #18 to the Giants for #29 and #60. Since they would be looking for the trade they would likely eat the small difference in points. This isn't rumor, the Giants are looking to move up. With whom is the question.

Currently the players slotted to go around #29... Percy Harvin, Beanie Wells, Vontae Davis, James Laurinaitis and Darius Butler. Players slotted to go around #45... Clint Sintim, Connor Barwin, Hakeem Nicks, William Moore, Max Unger. Players slotted to go around #60... Shonn Greene, Jarron Gilbert, Derrick Williams, Ron Brace, Lawrence Sidbury, Eric Wood.

#12 Brian Cushing
#29 Beanie Wells/Knowshon Moreno/Donald Brown
#48 Connor Barwin
#60 Ron Brace (slotted here but I don't think he'll last this long???)
#79 Paul Kruger
#84 Jasper Brinkley

Bolden can be had for a second now I hear. Anyone game for moving down and turning the giants 2nd into Bolden???

Price would be an issue but wow BMarsh, Bolden and Royal sounds kind of fun :)

Orange_Beard
04-24-2009, 05:54 PM
that's a terrible trade. i'd rather just keep Orton. but it is funny how much the Broncos have been rumored to want a QB after McDaniels supposedly wanted Orton over other QB's

Off-season camp just wrapped up, perhaps after working out Orton, McD is ****ting his pants.

Broncoman13
04-24-2009, 06:00 PM
Uh oh... just thinking but two initials here that are starting to make me worry a bit. BP. Supposedly we are quite high on the kid. I'd be upset and that is the honest truth.

Slade
04-24-2009, 06:02 PM
Bp?

Slade
04-24-2009, 06:05 PM
Brandon Pettigrew? You really think we want a TE when we already have Grahmn?

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 06:05 PM
Uh oh... just thinking but two initials here that are starting to make me worry a bit. BP. Supposedly we are quite high on the kid. I'd be upset and that is the honest truth.

BP?...

can i get another hint?...

Gcver2ver3
04-24-2009, 06:06 PM
Brandon Pettigrew? You really think we want a TE when we already have Grahmn?

that BP?...

really?...

well that sting at least a little...

Slade
04-24-2009, 06:08 PM
I would be pissed if we went TE. Even more than if we got a QB in the first! WTF!

Broncoman13
04-24-2009, 06:10 PM
Broncos love him and "supposedly" McCoy liked him before he came to town as well. I don't want a TE anywhere in this draft... I'm nearly praying we don't go that route, but I know for sure the Broncos like him.

Sodak
04-24-2009, 06:17 PM
Does anyone have a scouting report on Quinn? Because so far, I don't think I've seen enough of him to make an assessment on his abilities.

We know what Orton does. Everyone here must be bagging on Quinn for some reason.

Northman
04-24-2009, 06:21 PM
Bolden can be had for a second now I hear. Anyone game for moving down and turning the giants 2nd into Bolden???

Price would be an issue but wow BMarsh, Bolden and Royal sounds kind of fun :)

The ego's between Marshall and Boldin would never last. One would force out the other.

Northman
04-24-2009, 06:24 PM
I would be pissed if we went TE. Even more than if we got a QB in the first! WTF!

Yea, i dont want a TE in the first either. Especially when you can get a great one in Nelson in the 3rd or 4th. ;D