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BowlenBall
04-21-2009, 06:46 PM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi042109.htm

No earth-shattering news here, but the most interesting results are:

FS Louis Delmas, 12 (Most teams would like their free safeties to be a little smarter than that)

C AQ Shipley, 40 (Gotta love those smart O-Linemen)

QB Nate Davis, 11 (Welcome to the CFL, Nate)

RB Jeremiah Johnson, 9 (One of Mel Kiper's sleeper picks is officially 2009's dumbest man)

CB Kevin Barnes, 41 (Odd to have the best score in the draft class from a cornerback....)

OBF1
04-21-2009, 07:04 PM
If they posted the Miami players scores they would be the lowest ones at the combine.

Dempsey Dog
04-21-2009, 07:11 PM
Not exactly making my undergrad school look good...
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<table x:str="true" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl79" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Gartrell Johnson</td> <td class="xl83" bgcolor="#0000e0">Colorado State</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">7/25</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">12/19</td> <td class="xl85" x:num="x:num" bgcolor="#0000e0">5</td></tr></tbody></table>

Mogulseeker
04-21-2009, 07:24 PM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi042109.htm

No earth-shattering news here, but the most interesting results are:

FS Louis Delmas, 12 (Most teams would like their free safeties to be a little smarter than that)

C AQ Shipley, 40 (Gotta love those smart O-Linemen)

QB Nate Davis, 11 (Welcome to the CFL, Nate)

RB Jeremiah Johnson, 9 (One of Mel Kiper's sleeper picks is officially 2009's dumbest man)

CB Kevin Barnes, 41 (Odd to have the best score in the draft class from a cornerback....)

Quit knocking the DB's, man :thumbsup:

TheReverend
04-21-2009, 07:28 PM
Shipley WILL be a success in the nfl.

MagicHef
04-21-2009, 07:28 PM
Larry English with a 34.

BowlenBall
04-21-2009, 07:30 PM
Quit knocking the DB's, man :thumbsup:

Not a slight against the DBs, per se, but rather an observation that the top scores almost always are from the O-linemen or quarterbacks. On defense, the top scores are almost always from the free safeties.

In fact, I wonder if the NFL gives a red flag to players such as Barnes who score "too high" for their position -- on the theory that they want players reacting instead of thinking.

Boobs McGee
04-21-2009, 07:36 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0 x:str="true"><TBODY><TR height=15><TD class=xl79 bgColor=transparent height=15>Demonte Bolden from tennesse got a 5 the first time he took it. Wowsers</TD><TD class=xl83 bgColor=transparent></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

HEAV
04-21-2009, 07:46 PM
I watched Nate Davis play @ high school and thought he was a raw talent. Felt he should have stayed at Ball St. one more year. But he listened to his big brother (Jose Davis) whom played for the Crush back in 05 and hoped around arena and CFL leagues. Jose told him to come out this year.

Jose is now going to be starting his first year of being a High School Head coach @ his alma mater...

I get the feeling Nate will be doing the same thing in about 6 years.

Reports have said Nate has a learning disability, not sure how that plays into his score.

mizzoutigers
04-21-2009, 07:54 PM
it would be fun to see the intelligent nba players scores on this test. most are doing well if two words can be put together. actually some of the international players who know limited english would do better than the thugs.

KillerBronco#76
04-21-2009, 08:07 PM
Vontae Davis... 33 . didn't see that coming then again you usually have to be pretty smart to get into Illinois ( even the athletes). He is going to tear it up in the NFL.

Kaylore
04-21-2009, 08:13 PM
Rey-Rey with a 15. I see LaVar Arrington and everyone else sees Shawn Merriman.

DHallblows
04-21-2009, 08:14 PM
Anyone know where I can find a sample of one of these tests. From what I've read of sample questions, you have to be borderline retarded to get below a 30...

mizzoutigers
04-21-2009, 08:14 PM
rey rey "me eat pineapple"

worm
04-21-2009, 08:20 PM
Vontae Davis... 33 . didn't see that coming then again you usually have to be pretty smart to get into Illinois ( even the athletes). He is going to tear it up in the NFL.

Quoted for prosperity.

This is my #1 bust prospect this year.

Breck Bronc
04-21-2009, 08:31 PM
it would be fun to see the intelligent nba players scores on this test. most are doing well if two words can be put together. actually some of the international players who know limited english would do better than the thugs.Nothing like a Wonderlic thread to bring out the best of the Mane.

Malcontent
04-21-2009, 08:34 PM
Rey-Rey with a 15. I see LaVar Arrington and everyone else sees Shawn Merriman.

Nope..I've always been a Rey Rey detractor!!

spdirty
04-21-2009, 08:36 PM
Not exactly making my undergrad school look good...
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<table x:str="true" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl79" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Gartrell Johnson</td> <td class="xl83" bgcolor="#0000e0">Colorado State</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">7/25</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">12/19</td> <td class="xl85" x:num="x:num" bgcolor="#0000e0">5</td></tr></tbody></table>



Keep forgetting about him, but Id love to see that big bull in orange and blue. Even if he is stupid.

epicSocialism4tw
04-21-2009, 08:37 PM
it would be fun to see the intelligent nba players scores on this test. most are doing well if two words can be put together. actually some of the international players who know limited english would do better than the thugs.


rey rey "me eat pineapple"

Ha!

Who is the race-baiter in hiding here? Pineapple?

TheChamp24
04-21-2009, 08:41 PM
Looking at just the one score, like Delmas, that is 12 out of 24, 50% and the average for a FS was 51%, 19/37.

DHallblows
04-21-2009, 08:51 PM
Not exactly making my undergrad school look good...
<table x:str="true" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl72" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Name</td> <td class="xl69" bgcolor="#0000e0">School</td> <td class="xl70" bgcolor="#0000e0">1st test</td> <td class="xl70" bgcolor="#0000e0">Combine</td> <td class="xl73" bgcolor="#0000e0">Difference</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table x:str="true" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl79" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Gartrell Johnson</td> <td class="xl83" bgcolor="#0000e0">Colorado State</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">7/25</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">12/19</td> <td class="xl85" x:num="x:num" bgcolor="#0000e0">5</td></tr></tbody></table>

He DID get a 63% with the average for RBs being 61%...

BowlenBall
04-21-2009, 08:51 PM
Ha!

Who is the race-baiter in hiding here? Pineapple?

Pineapple is the new watermelon, apparently....

OABB
04-21-2009, 08:52 PM
As long as rey rey isn't as stupid as Ryan Clady I'm all right with the pick..

KillerBronco#76
04-21-2009, 08:53 PM
Quoted for prosperity.

This is my #1 bust prospect this year.

You and every one else whats your reasoning for that?

He reminds me of champ... more outspoken though. He has it all size, instincts, fastest corner in the draft on game day, Loves to hit. He is a complete corner. Too bad the rest of Illinois secondary was so bad. They ran alot of zone that got ripped up bad. He can make some insane plays as far as breakups and picks go. I don't see why everyone is picking him to be a bust.

BowlenBall
04-21-2009, 08:54 PM
Looking at just the one score, like Delmas, that is 12 out of 24, 50% and the average for a FS was 51%, 19/37.

Time is an important factor in the test. Delmas only managed to attempt 24 questions in a 12 minute period, meaning questions like "what is the 9th month of the year" took him at least 30 seconds to answer.

While I think the Wonderlic is a fairly poor indicator of football skill, a score of 12/24 does indicate that Delmas will be challenged by an NFL playbook.

footstepsfrom#27
04-21-2009, 09:14 PM
Rey-Rey with a 15. I see LaVar Arrington and everyone else sees Shawn Merriman.
I have concerns about him, but it's got nothing to do with his Wonderlic.

Pony Boy
04-21-2009, 09:33 PM
John Elway 30
Brett Favre 22
Peyton Manning 28
Dan Marino 16
Donavan McNabb 14
Jay Cutler 26

Arkie
04-21-2009, 09:46 PM
Anyone know where I can find a sample of one of these tests. From what I've read of sample questions, you have to be borderline retarded to get below a 30...

You can take it here... http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html


Average scores from everyday professions included:

Chemist - 31
Programmer - 29
Journalist - 26
Sales - 24
Bank teller - 22
Clerical worker - 21
Security guard - 17
Warehouse - 15

NFL football player - 20

A score of 10 is literacy.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-21-2009, 09:56 PM
Rey-Rey with a 15. I see LaVar Arrington and everyone else sees Shawn Merriman.

You dont need to be a genius to play linebacker. In fact, i dont want someone who outthinks themselves. He's nothing like arrington. Watch some tape of him blowing up O-linemen

chickennob2
04-21-2009, 10:09 PM
<table x:str="true" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl92" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Arian Foster</td> <td class="xl93" bgcolor="#0000e0">Tennessee</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">20/23</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">19/25</td></tr></tbody></table>

Scored of 20 and 19, AND he speaks pterodactyl! What's not to like?

worm
04-21-2009, 10:11 PM
You and every one else whats your reasoning for that?

He reminds me of champ... more outspoken though. He has it all size, instincts, fastest corner in the draft on game day, Loves to hit. He is a complete corner. Too bad the rest of Illinois secondary was so bad. They ran alot of zone that got ripped up bad. He can make some insane plays as far as breakups and picks go. I don't see why everyone is picking him to be a bust.

Very athletic, talented player. Obviously tests, combines and 'wonderlics' well. Yet it is easy to give effort in short spurts if you are talented.

However the dude mails it in a lot. A ton has been written about his practice effort. His 'coachability'. He also was benched multiple times for on and off field lack of effort.

Sometime the apple doesn't far from the other apple.

How you see Champ in a guy that has no HEART is beyond me. He would be off my draft board entirely.

DHallblows
04-21-2009, 10:52 PM
You can take it here... http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228.html


Average scores from everyday professions included:

Chemist - 31
Programmer - 29
Journalist - 26
Sales - 24
Bank teller - 22
Clerical worker - 21
Security guard - 17
Warehouse - 15

NFL football player - 20

A score of 10 is literacy.

Ahh I didn't realize the questions got harder as you went on. I thought all were as easy as: In the following set of words, which word is different from the others? 1) copper, 2) nickel, 3) aluminum, 4) wood, 5) bronze.

Too bad the sample test was only a 15 question version, I really wanted to know how I woulda done on a full one. I can see how fatigue would factor in as the time went on. Didn't quite finish the last one in 5 minutes, I can see how most don't finish.
I was on pace for a 37ish in case anyone wanted to know Knowitall I know, you didn't :clown:

BowlenBall
04-22-2009, 12:00 AM
As long as rey rey isn't as stupid as Ryan Clady I'm all right with the pick..

I wish all of our players were as 'stupid' as Clady -- good example of how the Wonderlic isn't a great predictor of success.

KillerBronco#76
04-22-2009, 07:18 AM
Very athletic, talented player. Obviously tests, combines and 'wonderlics' well. Yet it is easy to give effort in short spurts if you are talented.

However the dude mails it in a lot. A ton has been written about his practice effort. His 'coachability'. He also was benched multiple times for on and off field lack of effort.

Sometime the apple doesn't far from the other apple.

How you see Champ in a guy that has no HEART is beyond me. He would be off my draft board entirely.

Saying the guy has no hart shows you have never watched him play and don't really know what you are talking about.

I saw almost every illini game for the last three years i don't understand where people are getting this from. There were times last year when it seemed liked he was the only player on the field. You don't get to see the corners in coverage but I can't say i saw any lack of effort from him and others teams pretty much stopped throwing in his direction in general.

I think the benching was more of a lack of leadership issue than anything else. He is very open at voicing his frustration.Which could be fixed with the right veteran showing him how to handle himself say a Brian Dawkins type of player.
I think the coaching part had more to do with Zook than anything else. Mendenhall was a good friend of his and he left Illinois on very bad terms. I'm almost positive Vontae had a problem with Zook because of the Mendenhall issue.

sophmore season- 76 tackles, 4 tackles for loss, 4 interceptions, 8 passes broken up, and he even blocked 2 kicks on special teams.

Junior- 78 tackles, 7 tackles for loss, 2 interceptions, 10 passes broken up in coverage, and 3 forced fumbles,

206 tackles in his career i would hardly call that a lack of effort.

and you have to consider the fact teams just stopped throwing the ball anywhere near him. So he had to run to the opposite side of the field to make tackles and still manged to average 6 tackles a game.

He's a great kid just immature but don't forget he is only 20 years old too. When he is drafted he won't even legally be able to celebrate with a drink.

Dempsey Dog
04-22-2009, 04:53 PM
Not exactly making my undergrad school look good...
<table x:str="true" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl72" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Name</td> <td class="xl69" bgcolor="#0000e0">School</td> <td class="xl70" bgcolor="#0000e0">1st test</td> <td class="xl70" bgcolor="#0000e0">Combine</td> <td class="xl73" bgcolor="#0000e0">Difference</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table x:str="true" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr height="15"><td class="xl79" bgcolor="#0000e0" height="15">Gartrell Johnson</td> <td class="xl83" bgcolor="#0000e0">Colorado State</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">7/25</td> <td class="xl84" bgcolor="#0000e0">12/19</td> <td class="xl85" x:num="x:num" bgcolor="#0000e0">5</td></tr></tbody></table>

Keep forgetting about him, but Id love to see that big bull in orange and blue. Even if he is stupid.

As a CSU homer, it would be great to have him.

Does not have breakaway speed, but the guy is a bull moose. He tore it up in their bowl game with the 2nd most rushing yards ever in a bowl.

I would like to see him as a Bronc to. He brings some punch and attitude to the backfield... like Hillis. IMHO he would be a better power back than Jordan.

Last, he is actually pretty decent at catching out of the backfield.

Here is a pretty good review of him:

http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/4/7/825458/niners-nation-scouting-report

Hogan11
04-22-2009, 05:09 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0 x:str="true"><TBODY><TR height=15><TD class=xl79 bgColor=transparent height=15>Demonte Bolden from tennesse got a 5 the first time he took it. Wowsers</TD><TD class=xl83 bgColor=transparent></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

He must've been high Ha!