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SureShot
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
Lame

spdirty
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
un****ingbelievable. David Stern and these refs should be ashamed of themselves. As well and the ****ing Lakers.

lex
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
That was a made up call. They saw Kobe was going to lose possession and the ref bailed him out with the whistle.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
MVP chants???

Uh...no.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
On the Nene call? He was holding him, Flozell Adams style.

Like how I tied it into football?

Your airport sucks.

Yeah I missed his sweet man love move on Gasol.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:45 PM
Stern will make sure his refs get a memo stating that they had this game way too close. They will make sure the Fakers are called much more favorably from here on out. He can't risk a fluke

PaintballCLE
05-19-2009, 09:45 PM
I love how every foul call is a BAD call..........quit your damn whining. Leave that to the players LOL

spdirty
05-19-2009, 09:45 PM
Nobody can deny the last 3 minutes have been at best 1 sided.

Lakers motto should be keep it close and in the 4th let the refs take over.

enjolras
05-19-2009, 09:46 PM
I KNEW it...I *** KNEW Kenyon Martin would be the one to screw this up.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 09:46 PM
You guys need to get over this Stern thing. The Nuggets shoot more fts than any team in the league. Making them would be a way to start...

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:46 PM
horrid horrid play

Flex Gunmetal
05-19-2009, 09:46 PM
****

Doggcow
05-19-2009, 09:46 PM
Throw away the game with those freethrows. I called this in the first, lose by less than 5.

lex
05-19-2009, 09:47 PM
Stern strikes again.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:47 PM
Carter what the **** are you thinking.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 09:47 PM
why the **** was AC even in the game there?

Broncosfreak_56
05-19-2009, 09:47 PM
**** anthony carter.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:48 PM
Stern is rubbing one out and having his assistant write a memo telling the refs they made this way to close for his dream team

SureShot
05-19-2009, 09:48 PM
why the **** was AC even in the game there?

Why is the shortest guy inbounding the ball?

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 09:48 PM
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN A.C. !

excellent job trevor, that's some HUSTLE!

GOD this series is gonna be awesome

PaintballCLE
05-19-2009, 09:48 PM
another Karl **** up

lex
05-19-2009, 09:49 PM
You guys need to get over this Stern thing. The Nuggets shoot more fts than any team in the league. Making them would be a way to start...

Whether or not the Nuggets made their FTs doesnt exonerate from the referees from not doing their job. They gifted Kobe a bail out call on the previous possession when he saw it was going to get stolen.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 09:49 PM
that was coaching there. AC throwing in, Phil puts Odom on him, **** happens.

SureShot
05-19-2009, 09:50 PM
Mr Big Shot!

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 09:50 PM
wow chauncey is ****ing clutch


WAS HIS TOE ON THE LINE!!<<!

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:51 PM
Oh God Billups was out of bounds! Moot point if he makes this

bombay
05-19-2009, 09:51 PM
Ariza got away with a foul on Chauncey's three. Would have tied it.

enjolras
05-19-2009, 09:52 PM
To little to late.

The Nuggets just aren't ready to win a championship.

They are an awful free throw team.
They are erratic.

They have a lot of growing to do if they're going to win this series.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Here is your scary stat for the day. Phil Jackson is 42 and 0 if he wins the first game.

bombay
05-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Nuggets free throw shooting does them in again.

They'll get game two.

Kaylore
05-19-2009, 09:53 PM
I don't think we can beat the Lakers. I felt like if there was a game we were going to be able to steal it was this one. I know: Billups makes his free throws and we win, but that's just how it is with the Lakers and Nuggets. We piss down our leg when we play them.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 09:53 PM
This one hurts. Hopefully JR is OK.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 09:53 PM
Smiths knee looks ****ed.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 09:53 PM
Nice way to take out the knee cheeting beotches

Doggcow
05-19-2009, 09:54 PM
Just make freethrows and they win easily.

Dukes
05-19-2009, 09:55 PM
To little to late.

The Nuggets just aren't ready to win a championship.

They are an awful free throw team.
They are erratic.

They have a lot of growing to do if they're going to win this series.

I'd agree if they had gotten blown out.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 09:55 PM
Here is your scary stat for the day. Phil Jackson is 42 and 0 if he wins the first game.

first time for everything. But ts obvious Stern won't allow it.:(

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 09:55 PM
Don't know if the Nuggets are mentally strong for a series like this.

Missed fts, turnovers and fouls late in the game, guys not hustling back on defense, missing assignments and the general douchebaggedness of Jones are too much.

Doggcow
05-19-2009, 09:55 PM
Here is your scary stat for the day. Phil Jackson is 42 and 0 if he wins the first game.

the celtics were like 30 something and 0 when leading 3-2 in a series. That worked out for them.

NFLBRONCO
05-19-2009, 09:56 PM
Nice effort Nuggets

SureShot
05-19-2009, 09:56 PM
To little to late.

The Nuggets just aren't ready to win a championship.

They are an awful free throw team.
They are erratic.

They have a lot of growing to do if they're going to win this series.

Dude you are way off. The Nuggets have been anything but erratic and are shoot a better percetage from the line than the Lakers in the playoffs.

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 09:56 PM
oh no....that sucks. I hope j.r.'s ok.

Looked like a knee :(


Nice win lakers!!

SouthStndJunkie
05-19-2009, 09:56 PM
That sucked giant hairy donkey testicles.

watermock
05-19-2009, 09:57 PM
Notice how they don't show Kobe's foul on JR's foot at the end when he stepped on his foot?

enjolras
05-19-2009, 09:57 PM
23-35 vs 20-24 from the line.

That's your story. That's your ballgame.

The only problem is, they've been horrific throughout the post-season so they only win in spite of their performance from the line.

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Missed fts, turnovers and fouls late in the game, guys not hustling back on defense, missing assignments and the general douchebaggedness of Jones are too much.

What?! Jones isn't a douche???

NFLBRONCO
05-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Don't know if the Nuggets are mentally strong for a series like this.

Missed fts, turnovers and fouls late in the game, guys not hustling back on defense, missing assignments and the general douchebaggedness of Jones are too much.

Inexperience showed but, Nuggets played hard at least.

Broncosfreak_56
05-19-2009, 09:58 PM
JR looks like he got hurt very bad. Knee injury.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 09:59 PM
What?! Jones isn't a douche???

He's from Duke.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 09:59 PM
Damn!

Lakers play like crap, Melo has a monster game, and the Thugs still lose.

http://www.clublakers.com/wp-content/uploads/lakersworldorder_cl_sm.jpg

I'm lovin' it. :~ohyah!:

OBF1
05-19-2009, 10:00 PM
Lakers played a poor game, no hustle until the middle of the 4th. Gasol, Odam and Bynum played like it was their first playoff game. If the Lakers ever come out fast, it will be a blow out.

cutthemdown
05-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Nuggets should be proud, they played pretty good. I think crying about the refs is weak though Nuggets went to the line plenty, they just stink at FT.

Also just like I said Kobe gets 30-40 each game. Denver just has no one that can match up on him.

Kobe will be the difference, Lakers in 5.

It went pretty much like I expected although I thought Lakers would win by 10.

OBF1
05-19-2009, 10:01 PM
They showed JR running off the cout, appears to be fine.

Bronco Yoda
05-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Is there a good Ariza that theres so much crying in here? :giggle:

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Well, I know I bltched about officiating but it shouldnt have come down to that. The bs didnt start till about 3 minutes left and we shouldve had the game well in hand to the point where you dont allow that to come into play.

We played hard but not well. I still think we can win this series.

SureShot
05-19-2009, 10:01 PM
23-35 vs 20-24 from the line.

That's your story. That's your ballgame.

The only problem is, they've been horrific throughout the post-season so they only win in spite of their performance from the line.

LOL

The Nuggets are shooting better from the line than any team left in the playoffs.

The Big E
05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
There are going to be a lot of games like this in this series.

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
He's from Duke.

I'm smelling some bias :P

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
JR looks like he got hurt very bad. Knee injury.

He was able to walk back to the locker room.

Let's hope he's OK - don't want any extra excuses from the Thugs fans on here.

Ha!

cutthemdown
05-19-2009, 10:03 PM
Lakers played like they have all yr, not 4 full quarters of good basketball. That won't change and will probably get them beat in the finals.

It won't be Denver that beats them. They just don't have answer for Kobe. They never have had an answer and this series will be no different.

cutthemdown
05-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Is there a good Ariza that theres so much crying in here? :giggle:

I think it's just because they are running out of Gasol.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Damn!

Lakers play like crap, Melo has a monster game, and the Thugs still lose.

http://www.clublakers.com/wp-content/uploads/lakersworldorder_cl_sm.jpg

I'm lovin' it. :~ohyah!:

Yeah, I don't think we will be able to handle Bynum after seeing him completely dominate us.

Bronco Yoda
05-19-2009, 10:06 PM
I think it's just because they are running out of Gasol.

and there's still more Fish in the sea for us yet

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:08 PM
Lakers played like they have all yr, not 4 full quarters of good basketball. That won't change and will probably get them beat in the finals.

It won't be Denver that beats them. They just don't have answer for Kobe. They never have had an answer and this series will be no different.

Maybe, just maybe, hopfully, please please please let him have 2 more techs. I know that wont happen though. And let the 7th happen in game 6.

Flex Gunmetal
05-19-2009, 10:09 PM
lol ****bag lakers fans chanting "Denver Sucks" on espn.
Looks like your superheroes beat a team that sucks by only 2 pts.

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 10:11 PM
If we just hit some damn fts we don't have to put up with anything in the 4th. We better come out shooting better in game 2.

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 10:12 PM
Every time bynum started to get something goin, foul. I think if he actually gets a chance to get in a rythm it's on. (not blaming refs, just stating fact)

And the lake show won't have four more ****ty games like that.

I'm still sayin six, but it's gonna be a TOUGH six

bombay
05-19-2009, 10:12 PM
Twelve missed free throws just doesn't get it done when you're on the road, even when you're playing the ass rapist's band of bozos.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:13 PM
If we just hit some damn fts we don't have to put up with anything in the 4th. We better come out shooting better in game 2.

after practice tomorrow, everyone thats playing in this series needs to shoot about 300 free throws.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:16 PM
And the lake show won't have four more ****ty games like that.

Yeah, and this was probably the second worst game the Nuggets played these entire playoffs. And its probably at most the 6th or 7th worst the Lakers have played.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:16 PM
I think crying about the refs is weak though

Get used to it - that their SOP.

When the series is over and the Thugs have gone fishing their fans will still be blaming the refs and spouting NBA conspiracy theories.

Also just like I said Kobe gets 30-40 each game. Denver just has no one that can match up on him.

QFT.

The Thugs don't have a Battier or an Artest who can defend Kobe 1 on 1.


It went pretty much like I expected although I thought Lakers would win by 10.

I was pretty pleased given the Lakers' lack of prep time and fatigue from that game 7.

montrose
05-19-2009, 10:17 PM
I hate Anthony Carter so much.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:18 PM
The Thugs don't have a Battier or an Artest who can defend Kobe 1 on 1.


And who can guard melo 1 on 1???

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Yeah, and this was probably the second worst game the Nuggets played these entire playoffs.

Hmmm....wonder why?

Could it be because this is the first time they've faced a good team in these playoffs? :giggle:

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Yeah, and this was probably the second worst game the Nuggets played these entire playoffs. And its probably at most the 6th or 7th worst the Lakers have played.

I'd say third or fourth, but ya, agreed.

High scorin fireworks all series baby!!!!!!!!!!

NBA playoffs rock

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Hey fellow Nuggets fans, look at the bright side. Tomorrow we get 3 tacos for $1 at participating Taco Bells. :)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:20 PM
And who can guard melo 1 on 1???

Lakers play crappy defense on Melo, he has a monster game, and you still lose.

That should concern you.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Hmmm....wonder why?

Could it be because this is the first time they've faced a good team in these playoffs? :giggle:

Yeah, such a great team that forced us to miss 12 free throws in a 2 point game.

Oh, and how did you like Bynums total domination?

Bronco Yoda
05-19-2009, 10:22 PM
This is going to be a good series. Props the Nuggets for giving all the Lakers could take. Wow

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:27 PM
Lakers play crappy defense on Melo, he has a monster game, and you still lose.

That should concern you.

Or...JR plays like shlt except for 2 shots, and mightve knocked some rust and nerves off, Nuggets miss 12 free throws, get outrebounded by 9, Lakers get 3 of 3 at best 50-50 calls in the last couple minutes, and still only win by 2.

That should concern you. I absolutely believe we will win Game 2.

slyinky
05-19-2009, 10:27 PM
I hate Anthony Carter so much.
What the hell was Karl thinking having the shortest guy on the team inbound? Nice move by Phil Jackson putting Odom out there to defend the against the midgets pass. Also notice how Kobe goes off with GK having AC defend him.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah, such a great team that forced us to miss 12 free throws in a 2 point game.

The Thugs got to the line 11 more times than the Lakers (in spite of no call after no call as the Thugs repeatedly hacked our players at the basket.)

Oh, and how did you like Bynums total domination?

And you still lost.

Wait 'til Drew plays his way into the series. :wiggle:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:31 PM
Or...JR plays like shlt except for 2 shots, and mightve knocked some rust and nerves off...

Is that an excuse I hear?

Oh well - at least you didn't blame the officiating in at least one post.

I absolutely believe we will win Game 2.

I absolutely believe the Lakers will win the series. :thumbs:

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:31 PM
The Thugs got to the line 11 more times than the Lakers (in spite of no call after no call as the Thugs repeatedly hacked our players at the basket.)

And the refs more than made up for that the last couple minutes.


And you still lost.

Wait 'til Drew plays his way into the series. :wiggle:

As well as JR.

slyinky
05-19-2009, 10:32 PM
Lakers play crappy defense on Melo, he has a monster game, and you still lose.

That should concern you.
The Lakers squeak by Denver at home because of poor free throw shooting from two of the Nuggets best shooters and bone headed coaching.

That should concern you.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:34 PM
Is that an excuse I hear?


How is admitting that one of your players played like shlt an excuse?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:43 PM
How is admitting that one of your players played like shlt an excuse?

He didn't play like sh*t - he was simply up against a quality opponent for the first time in these playoffs.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:46 PM
The Lakers squeak by Denver at home because of poor free throw shooting from two of the Nuggets best shooters and bone headed coaching.

That should concern you.

Hey - I'm a Lakers fan: my team always concerns me (more like "gives me heart attacks on a regular basis.") ;)

That said, I felt good about tonight's win against a rested Denver team considering our lack of prep time and the turnaround time after a big game 7.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 10:48 PM
Bynum sucks.

Kaylore
05-19-2009, 10:49 PM
I hate Anthony Carter so much.

I hate that Karl is in love with him even more. He's the kind of player that works really hard and makes the coach happy, and so Karl likes to make an example and reward him with playing time. The problem is he has no game and our bench has better guys than him.

And thanks Karl for yanking Melo in the second quarter when he was on fire. That makes a LOT of sense. ::)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 10:50 PM
Bynum sucks.

:stupid:

You forgot "Kobe is a rapist" and "the refs cost us the game."

You're slipping.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 10:53 PM
He didn't play like sh*t - he was simply up against a quality opponent for the first time in these playoffs.

2-5, 2-6 from the FT line, and 3 completely inarguable unforced turnovers. As well as leaving his man wide open for 3 countless times. But it was all Lakers. No nerves or rust there. ::)

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 10:54 PM
where the eff is Rhymesayers, Nuggets4 and Master_pain? This is monumental nuggets basketball. Anybody seen em?

Kaylore
05-19-2009, 10:55 PM
where the eff is Rhymesayers, Nuggets4 and Master_pain? This is monumental nuggets basketball. Anybody seen em?

Ryhmes is perma-banned.

cutthemdown
05-19-2009, 10:56 PM
Maybe, just maybe, hopfully, please please please let him have 2 more techs. I know that wont happen though. And let the 7th happen in game 6.

What a joke some of the techs were also. If Kobe got suspended that would be Nuggets only chance. How pathetic of you to realize that.

24champ
05-19-2009, 10:58 PM
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Lakers win!!!!!!!!! That was a great game to win, I really hated the officiating in this game, Nuggets got all the calls and gave a great effort, not sure if it was their best but they couldn't run away with it, which is good.


I also agree with some of the Nugget fans I was out with tonight, why did Karl leave that scrub Carter in the game?

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 11:01 PM
:stupid:

You forgot "Kobe is a rapist" and "the refs cost us the game."

You're slipping.

Ya stupid! he was 6pts/6rebs tonight! Don't you understand his dominance?!

Boobs McGee
05-19-2009, 11:02 PM
Ryhmes is perma-banned.

No ****? I didn't even know that was possible! what happened?

spdirty
05-19-2009, 11:03 PM
What a joke some of the techs were also.


There were 2 techs the whole game. And as much as he was whining it seemed like he was begging for a tech and the refs would have none of it till he gave em no choice and slammed the ball that went into the crowd.



If Kobe got suspended that would be Nuggets only chance. How pathetic of you to realize that.

Our only chance is to hit our free throws, not turn the ball over so much, and continue to outwork the Lakers. But Kobe giving us a free game by getting suspended would help.

24champ
05-19-2009, 11:05 PM
Fun Fact of the Night-

Phil Jackson has never lost a series after winning a Game 1. :~ohyah!:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:07 PM
Ya stupid! he was 6pts/6rebs tonight! Don't you understand his dominance?!

Newsflash, dumbass:

Bynum doesn't "suck" - he's coming off a knee injury that caused him to miss 32 games in the last half of the season.

If you think Bynum "sucks" then you must not watch much b-ball.

OBF1
05-19-2009, 11:07 PM
How many points did the thugs win by???

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:09 PM
But Kobe giving us a free game by getting suspended would help.

That might be your only chance to win the series. Ha!

Not likely to happen, however - Kobe's been in this position with Ts before and is too smart to let it happen again.

http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

spdirty
05-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Newsflash, dumbass:

Bynum doesn't "suck" - he's coming off a knee injury that caused him to miss 32 games in the last half of the season.

Is that an excuse I hear?

spdirty
05-19-2009, 11:12 PM
Not likely to happen, however - Kobe's been in this position with Ts before and David Stern wont allow it to happen again.

fixed.:thumbs:

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 11:13 PM
Newsflash, dumbass:

Bynum doesn't "suck" - he's coming off a knee injury that caused him to miss 32 games in the last half of the season.

If you think Bynum "sucks" then you must not watch much b-ball.

:thumbsup: ok chief. Keep up the class

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:18 PM
:thumbsup: ok chief. Keep up the class

Says the guy who initiated the name-calling.

Typical. :oyvey:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:20 PM
Is that an excuse I hear?

No - just calling out stupidity.

I hate the Celtics, but I wouldn't be so stupid as to say "KG sucks" because KG was working his way back into game shape after a serious injury.

ak1971
05-19-2009, 11:20 PM
Think we will see Jack Nicholson courtside at a Knicks game soon?

OBF1
05-19-2009, 11:22 PM
Atleast the Knicks did not lose tonight :)

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 11:23 PM
Says the guy who initiated the name-calling.

Typical. :oyvey:

"initiated the name-calling" ??? Huh?!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:24 PM
Atleast the Knicks did not lose tonight :)

:laugh: ^5

ak1971
05-19-2009, 11:25 PM
Atleast the Knicks did not lose tonight :)

nah..the nugs lost it themselves..no one to blame but themselves...

I just cant stand seeing that little four eyed racist knicks fan ever...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:26 PM
"initiated the name-calling" ??? Huh?!

Right here:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2421175&postcount=2097

I didn't call you names or make it personal.

You call me a name and then accuse me of classlessness.

Hypocritical much?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:28 PM
I just cant stand seeing that little four eyed racist knicks fan ever...

You forgot "Kobe is a rapist" and "Stern has it in for the Nuggets."

You're slipping. :wave:

DHallblows
05-19-2009, 11:29 PM
Right here:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2421175&postcount=2097

I didn't call you names or make it personal.

You call me a name and then accuse me of classlessness.

Hypocritical much?

Wasn't aware sarcastically agreeing with someone else is name calling...

spdirty
05-19-2009, 11:29 PM
No - just calling out stupidity.

I hate the Celtics, but I wouldn't be so stupid as to say "KG sucks" because KG was working his way back into game shape after a serious injury.

And how long will it take for him to work his way back into "game shape?"??? So far he's had 17 games.

cutthemdown
05-19-2009, 11:30 PM
And how long will it take for him to work his way back into "game shape?"??? So far he's had 17 games.

I'd say by about game 3 of the finals.

ak1971
05-19-2009, 11:31 PM
You forgot "Kobe is a rapist" and "Stern has it in for the Nuggets."

You're slipping. :wave:

no anint blaming anyone..Kobe got some chick that doesnt like it in the ass. The Nugs hit 1/2 thier free throws we win. and Spike Lee is still a racist.

BroncoBuff
05-19-2009, 11:33 PM
Newsflash, dumbass:

Bynum doesn't "suck" - he's coming off a knee injury that caused him to miss 32 games in the last half of the season.

If you think Bynum "sucks" then you must not watch much b-ball.
I just don't get your love of Bynum ... he's exactly the kind of guy a championship team like the Lakers should trade now, before his lack of intestinal fortitude makes his value drop. Some weak GM will fall in love with his measurables ... and that's when you strike, when you get maybe a solid point guard or something. And I say that as a Lakers fan ... they're my second favorite team. But that child-like, wide-eyed look on the bench all night, when they desperately needed him ... he's just not a champion.

Congratulations on winning tonight though, you definitely earned it. You hung around long enough and pushed over the top at the end. The score was closer than it should've been, Chauncey stepped on the sideline when he hit the 3-pointer.

That said, the Lakers should definitely be worried ... the Nugs missed a ton of free throws, and Chauncey had his first below-average game of this post-season.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 11:33 PM
I'd say by about game 3 of the finals.

I was talking about his basketball game not his golf game.

bronco militia
05-19-2009, 11:34 PM
no anint blaming anyone..Kobe got some chick that doesnt like it in the ass. The Nugs hit 1/2 thier free throws we win. and Spike Lee is still a racist.


and the front running stinking weasel makes terrible movies

go nuggets

24champ
05-19-2009, 11:35 PM
Anyone watch the postgame interviews?

George Karl was at a lost for words tonite, he basicallly said they played the way they wanted but lost. Lakers on the other hand had no inside presence for most of the game. Same with Carmelo, he looked deflated.

spdirty
05-19-2009, 11:40 PM
Anyone watch the postgame interviews?

George Karl was at a lost for words tonite, he basicallly said they played the way they wanted but lost. Lakers on the other hand had no inside presence for most of the game. Same with Carmelo, he looked deflated.

They lost a very important game they shouldve won, hit their free throws, hit 1 or 2 more of those wide open 3s, contest 1 or 2 of those wide open 3s the Lakers were getting, they win the game. What, you expect them to be happy after a loss like that?

After game 2 Phil and Kobe will be the same way.

24champ
05-19-2009, 11:40 PM
That said, the Lakers should definitely be worried ... the Nugs missed a ton of free throws, and Chauncey had his first below-average game of this post-season.

You guys got all the calls tonight, hence why you guys went to the line more often. It's not going to happen again in LA. Secondly Kobe (1st team all-defense) was guarding Chauncey in parts of the game, that's why Chauncey had problems. Expect that to keep going on in the series.

24champ
05-19-2009, 11:44 PM
They lost a very important game they shouldve won, hit their free throws, hit 1 or 2 more of those wide open 3s, contest 1 or 2 of those wide open 3s the Lakers were getting, they win the game. What, you expect them to be happy after a loss like that?

After game 2 Phil and Kobe will be the same way.

Kobe and Phil have had numerous runs in the playoffs, I don't think they would be this deflated after a loss. They were still upbeat after getting beat badly against the Rockets.

Magic said that the Nuggets just look devastated after this loss, they had everything going for them, but when it came to crunch time it all fell apart. I think that's due to the lack of experience the Nuggets have at this level of the playoffs.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:45 PM
Anyone watch the postgame interviews?

George Karl was at a lost for words tonite, he basicallly said they played the way they wanted but lost. Lakers on the other hand had no inside presence for most of the game. Same with Carmelo, he looked deflated.

That was priceless. Ha!

http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

BroncoBuff
05-19-2009, 11:46 PM
Anyone watch the postgame interviews?

George Karl was at a lost for words tonite, he basicallly said they played the way they wanted but lost. Lakers on the other hand had no inside presence for most of the game. Same with Carmelo, he looked deflated.
No inside presence on offense maybe ... but Gasol was a rebounding machine. He must've had 15+ boards.

The main, over-arcing factor tonight was the Nuggets foul-shooting. That won't happen again.

I'll go out on a limb and say the Nuggets will win Thursday ... they out-played the Lakers tonight. Nuggets might not win the next two at home, in fact, despite all the naysayers, I could definitely see these teams split in Denver. But withoubut the crazy foul-shooting problems and uncharacteristic below-average game by Chauncey, I think the Nuggets win Thirsday.

BroncoBuff
05-19-2009, 11:47 PM
That was priceless. Ha!

http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

I'm not sure what's "priceless" there, they lost. They're not gonna be celebrating ???

And I just watched George Karl, he was definitely NOT at a loss for words.




And WTF did'ja get that smilie?!?! TACO WHERE IS THE NUGGETS' SMILIE?!?!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:51 PM
I just don't get your love of Bynum ... he's exactly the kind of guy a championship team like the Lakers should trade now, before his lack of intestinal fortitude makes his value drop.

"Lack of intestinal fortitude?"

You gotta be sh*tting me.

We're talking about a 21 year-old kid who has missed half of the last two seasons with serious injuries.

If you haven't seen what Bynum can do when healthy and in game shape then you must not watch very many Lakers games.



That said, the Lakers should definitely be worried ... the Nugs missed a ton of free throws, and Chauncey had his first below-average game of this post-season.

For every excuse you make for how your team played tonight I can make two more for the Lakers' less-than-stellar play.

But we still found a way to win.

And we have home court.

I like our chances. ;) http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:52 PM
No inside presence on offense maybe ... but Gasol was a rebounding machine. He must've had 15+ boards.



Gasol didn't show up on defense until late in the 4th and Bynum was in foul trouble.

Perhaps that's what he meant. ;)

24champ
05-19-2009, 11:52 PM
The main, over-arcing factor tonight was the Nuggets foul-shooting. That won't happen again.

They aren't going to the line 30 times at Staples again dude. It's not gonna happen, you got all the calls tonight and got away with some, hence why all of staples was booing half the game. It was a poorly officiated game.



I'll go out on a limb and say the Nuggets will win Thursday ... they out-played the Lakers tonight. Nuggets might not win the next two at home, in fact, despite all the naysayers, I could definitely see these teams split in Denver. But withoubut the crazy foul-shooting problems and uncharacteristic below-average game by Chauncey, I think the Nuggets win Thirsday.

Nuggets have lost 11 straight vs the Lakers in the playoffs. They were on a good run in the playoffs till they got to LA and George Karl and Carmelo just look like they ran into a wall in the postgame presser. I thought it was great strategy by Phil to leave Kobe in the game and guard Chancey, took him out of his game. I don't see the Nuggets winning at Staples, I think the Nuggets could take game 3 but that's all they are going to get.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:54 PM
As for the WWE screw-up, Buff - I understand how it could happen.

Usually the Thuggets are done by this time of year. Ha!

http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 11:55 PM
You guys got all the calls tonight, hence why you guys went to the line more often. It's not going to happen again in LA. Secondly Kobe (1st team all-defense) was guarding Chauncey in parts of the game, that's why Chauncey had problems. Expect that to keep going on in the series.

QFT (especially the part about the calls.) http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

Kaylore
05-19-2009, 11:58 PM
They aren't going to the line 30 times at Staples again dude. It's not gonna happen, you got all the calls tonight and got away with some, hence why all of staples was booing half the game. It was a poorly officiated game.

Oh give me a freaking break. A.L.F. you are such a whiner. There were several calls where Billups and Melo were getting slapped around in the paint and they didn't call. In the first quarter they pushed Billups down on a shot and there was no call. In the fourth there were two scores from Melo where he got slapped on the arm and there was no call. There were also two fouls when Kobe scored where no one touched him and they sent him to the free throw line. You are the biggest whiner about the refs on this thread. Every game that the Lakers don't dominate you blame the refs. They let the guys play and you guys won. Quite being a vagina.

BroncoBuff
05-19-2009, 11:58 PM
I like your chances too ... but I stand by what I said about Bynum. They desperately needed him tonight, and he responded exactly how I would have expected - clappng on the bench.

And those are not just "excuses," those are the main Nuggets shortcomings in this loss ??? Using a derisive word to describe my analysis doesn't make that analysis wrong. And Chauncey won't play like that again.


I know this goes against the conventional wisdom, but I think the Nuggets will win Thursday, and the teams will split in Denver.

Houshyamama
05-20-2009, 12:00 AM
They aren't going to the line 30 times at Staples again dude. It's not gonna happen, you got all the calls tonight and got away with some, hence why all of staples was booing half the game. It was a poorly officiated game.

Ha!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:00 AM
They aren't going to the line 30 times at Staples again dude. It's not gonna happen, you got all the calls tonight and got away with some, hence why all of staples was booing half the game. It was a poorly officiated game.

Yep. It was a Thuggets hack fest.


They were on a good run in the playoffs till they got to LA and George Karl and Carmelo just look like they ran into a wall in the postgame presser.

Amazing what happens when the Thugs actually have to play a quality opponent.

I'm looking forward to watching the Cavs in the ECF for the same reason.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:02 AM
I'll agree with A.L.F. on one thing ... the Lakers were not helped much by the refs tonight.

But you missed badly on your other point A.L.F. ... the Nuggets led the league in number of foul shots this year (or maybe top 3). If you followed the sport closely you would know that. ;D

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:03 AM
A "Thuggets hack fest"?!

Sheesh, you won! There should be no crybaby ref-blaming stuff when you win.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:06 AM
I like your chances too ... but I stand by what I said about Bynum. They desperately needed him tonight, and he responded exactly how I would have expected - clappng on the bench.

And we still won. If I was a Thugs fan, I'd be concerned about that. What happens when Bynum works his way into the series? Ditto re: Gasol on the defensive end.

And those are not just "excuses," those are the main Nuggets shortcomings in this loss ??? Using a derisive word to describe my analysis doesn't make that analysis wrong. And Chauncey won't play like that again.



They are excuses insofar as there is no acknowledgment that the Thugs got beat by a better team, i.e., that Chauncey looked that bad because he was up against much better players than he saw v. NO and Dallass.

Kaylore
05-20-2009, 12:06 AM
A "Thuggets hack fest"?!

Sheesh, you won! There should be no crybaby ref-blaming stuff when you win.

I can only assume you're arguing with LABF. He sees the world in black and white. Republicans are all 100% evil. The Lakers winning by two points at home doesn't mean Denver could have done anything better. The Lakers were never being shut down, but simply were having "a bad game" and any perceived defense is a result of crooked (probably) Republican referees. Denver played their best game and the shear awesomness of the Lakers overwhelmed them. If you contest any of these points, he will call you names and try and fight with you.

spdirty
05-20-2009, 12:09 AM
They aren't going to the line 30 times at Staples again dude. It's not gonna happen,

First of all 30 FTs a game was our average in the regular season. So your saying that from here on out every time we go inside the Lakers bigs will be allowed to mug us?



you got all the calls tonight and got away with some, hence why all of staples was booing half the game. It was a poorly officiated game.


But when there were the last 3 minutes. Then the refs made damn sure the lakers would win.

1. When Andersen had it on the floor Chancey was screaming for a TO and the refs called jump ball.

2. The tip by both players went out of bounds, they gave it to the Lakers. That couldve gone either way.

3. That bullshlt bailout in the last minute where Kobe had it stolen from him.


Still it shouldnt have come down to that.




Nuggets have lost 11 straight vs the Lakers in the playoffs. They were on a good run in the playoffs till they got to LA and George Karl and Carmelo just look like they ran into a wall in the postgame presser. I thought it was great strategy by Phil to leave Kobe in the game and guard Chancey, took him out of his game. I don't see the Nuggets winning at Staples, I think the Nuggets could take game 3 but that's all they are going to get.

The psychology of just about every series dictates that the game 1 loser is extremely desperate in game 2 and most likely will play that way. The Lakers will not be able to manufacture the desperation and have proven throughout the course of these playoffs, and I use games 4 and 6 as examples, to have the professionalism to give it their all in every game these playoffs.

And Im not talking about Kobe when I say that, he brings his best effort every game. But Gasol, Bynum, Odom.

Tonight yeah, theyre dejected, tomorrow they will be pissed, and Thursday they will bring a game 7 mentality while the Lakers will bring a "cool, we won Game 1 and now we are playing Game 2" mentality. Bank on it.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:10 AM
I can only assume you're arguing with LABF. He sees the world in black and white. Republicans are all 100% evil. The Lakers winning by two points at home doesn't mean Denver could have done anything better. The Lakers were never being shut down, but simply were having "a bad game" and any perceived defense is a result of crooked (probably) Republican referees. Denver played their best game and the shear awesomness of the Lakers overwhelmed them. If you contest any of these points, he will call you names and try and fight with you.

You know a Thugs fan is desperate when his last refuge is to bring political baggage into an NBA Playoff discusion. Ha!

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Oh give me a freaking break. A.L.F. you are such a whiner. There were several calls where Billups and Melo were getting slapped around in the paint and they didn't call. In the first quarter they pushed Billups down on a shot and there was no call. In the fourth there were two scores from Melo where he got slapped on the arm and there was no call. There were also two fouls when Kobe scored where no one touched him and they sent him to the free throw line. You are the biggest whiner about the refs on this thread. Every game that the Lakers don't dominate you blame the refs. They let the guys play and you guys won. Quite being a vagina.

When the free-throw disrepancy is 33 attempts for the Nuggets and 12 for the Lakers through the 3rd quarter...the officiating was shiat. I wish they were more consistent on their calls. It was only until the end of the 4th quarter they started waking up and calling fouls for the Lakers.

azbroncfan
05-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Laker fans were crying about the refs all game until they gave them two important calls late in the game. Typical of banwagon Laker fans (that care more about the LA supposed lifestyle and American Idol) than actual basketball. Laker fans just become Raider fans come october so I don't want to her any of you guys talking **** about Raider fans this year. When I went to staples I felt like I was at McAfee stadium with all the thugs.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:12 AM
But when there were the last 3 minutes. Then the refs made damn sure the lakers would win.


http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/tin-foil-hat.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:13 AM
Laker fans were crying about the refs all game ...

Really?

Who?

Where?

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:15 AM
And we still won. If I was a Thugs fan, I'd be concerned about that. What happens when Bynum works his way into the series? Ditto re: Gasol on the defensive end.
A far, FAR more likely secenario is that Chauncey will "work hi way into the series" starting Thursday.

I'd say there's a 50% chance Bynum is a non-factor again Thursday ....

But it's a 90% chance Chauncey will play like the MVP he was in '04 and has been the past three weeks. :thumbs:


They are excuses insofar as there is no acknowledgment that the Thugs got beat by a better team, i.e., that Chauncey looked that bad because he was up against much better players than he saw v. NO and Dallas.

You know ... you talk alotta smack for a guy who's team just clawed their way back to a mere 2-point win on their homecourt.

And I don't know what to say about the blue quote .... Derek Fischer is a "much better player" than Chris Paul and Jason Kidd? :oyvey:

You're in pain, so ... whatever makes you happy ???

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:15 AM
When the free-throw disrepancy is 33 attempts for the Nuggets and 12 for the Lakers through the 3rd quarter...the officiating was shiat. I wish they were more consistent on their calls. It was only until the end of the 4th quarter they started waking up and calling fouls for the Lakers.

Bingo.

Can't believe Thugs fans are still sniveling about the refs "making sure the Lakers win the game" when they see that differential. Ha!

spdirty
05-20-2009, 12:16 AM
http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/tin-foil-hat.jpg

Yet you fail to address the 3 examples i laid out.

But like I said, shouldnt have come down to that. The effort was there, if Nuggets add the focus with FTs, 3 pointers, and contesting Laker 3s, its a double digit win for the Nugs and you guys congratulate us on extending the series to 5 games.

azbroncfan
05-20-2009, 12:18 AM
Just remember these Laker fans were this cocky and this stupid against Detroit a couple years ago. Now do I think Denver is a good as Detroit was then? No but their stupid ass fans(who are Raider fans come fall) were talking the same **** back then too. One ****ing game and I'm not even a nugget fan and I know it's not a series until a road team wins.

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:18 AM
And we still won. If I was a Thugs fan, I'd be concerned about that. What happens when Bynum works his way into the series? Ditto re: Gasol on the defensive end.


I'd throw Lamar in there too, he didn't play too great either.

I think Nugget fans are definitely concerned, they threw one of their best shots at us and didn't get it done. I think if they lose game 2, then it's going to start mentally affecting the Nuggets where they feel they can't beat the Lakers no matter what.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:18 AM
I'm a Nuggets fan too spdirty ... but the refs actually gave the Nuggets a HUGE bad call at the end: Chauncey's foot was on the sideline when he made that huge 3-pointer with 30 seconds to play.

The refs didn't favor either team really ... definitley not LA, but not Denver either. Like I said, the Nuggets were #1 in number of foul shots all year, so don't be shocked when it carries over.

spdirty
05-20-2009, 12:20 AM
I'd throw Lamar in there too, he didn't play too great either.

I think Nugget fans are definitely concerned, they threw one of their best shots at us and didn't get it done. I think if they lose game 2, then it's going to start mentally affecting the Nuggets where they feel they can't beat the Lakers no matter what.

The Nuggets have to win Game 2. In fact Ill go as far as to say they will have to win 2 games at Staples to win this series. Don't see em sweeping the Lakers at home, despite the 16 or 17 game home winning streak. Anyway, bedtime...goodnight all. Can't wait for Thursday night.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:22 AM
A far, FAR more likely secenario is that Chauncey will "work hi way into the series" starting Thursday.

I'd say there's a 50% chance Bynum is a non-factor again Thursday ....

But it's a 90% chance Chauncey will play like the MVP he was in '04 and has been the past three weeks. :thumbs:

And there's a >50% chance the Thugs still don't win the series.

The carriage is about to turn into a pumpkin. :D


You know ... you talk alotta smack for a guy who's team just clawed their way back to a mere 2-point win on their homecourt.

That's because my team just came off a game 7 two days ago and had no prep time for a game against a well-rested Denver team whose players and fans were all but certain they would take both games 1 and 2 (and talking much smack about the prospect, I might add.)



And I don't know what to say about the blue quote .... Derek Fischer is a "much better player" than Chris Paul and Jason Kidd?

Was D-Fish the only player guarding Billups tonight? I must have been watching a different game. Ha! BTW, I conceded earlier that Billups would probably have the edge against Fish 1-1 - you might have missed that post.

spdirty
05-20-2009, 12:24 AM
I'm a Nuggets fan too spdirty ... but the refs actually gave the Nuggets a HUGE bad call at the end: Chauncey's foot was on the sideline when he made that huge 3-pointer with 30 seconds to play.

The refs didn't favor either team really ... definitley not LA, but not Denver either. Like I said, the Nuggets were #1 in number of foul shots all year, so don't be shocked when it carries over.

refs ddnt lose the game for the nugs...lack of focus for 3 1/2 quarters where they coulda shoulda woulda had opportunities to get a good lead did.

1 great example was bout 6 minutes left in the 4th, chauncey had a wide open 3, missed, didnt get back on D and Vujajic or Farmer hit a 3. 6 seconds, 6 point swing right there.

Had the lead most of the game, shouldve closed em out in the 4th. Oh well.

I hate whining about the refs, but those 3 calls in the end irk me.

Bronco Yoda
05-20-2009, 12:25 AM
CA had 39 points and held his ground against Kobe all night long. Kobe had 40 points and performed like he does when it counts most. This is really good stuff. This was a really entertaining game and should be a great match up. Enjoy it for what it is everyone.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:26 AM
I conceded earlier that Billups would probably have the edge against Fish 1-1 - you might have missed that post.

"Probably"? Thank you Captain Obvious ROFL!

Dude, YOU SAID IT ... you said "much better players" than NO and Dallas, don't run from it. You were wrong, fine, just say "I misspoke" or something ... don't defend calling Fischer "much better" that Chris Paul and Jason Kidd.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:27 AM
I think Nugget fans are definitely concerned, they threw one of their best shots at us and didn't get it done.

And if they're honest with themselves (and if they actually follow the NBA) then they know they haven't seen anything close the Lakers' best shot.

http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

DeusExManning
05-20-2009, 12:27 AM
Lakers should have lost, 12 missed free throws is tough.

This will be a great series.

Go Lakers.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:28 AM
In fact, I don't think there's a player alive who qualifies as "much better" than Chris Paul.

Please, just say, "I got a bit carried away on that pont." It won't hurt, and the sun will come up tomorrow :sunshine:

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:28 AM
:~ohyah!:


http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/5/19/128872744636244807.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:29 AM
"Probably"? Thank you Captain Obvious ROFL!

Dude, YOU SAID IT ... you said "much better players" than NO and Dallas, don't run from it. You were wrong, fine, just say "I misspoke" or something ... don't defend calling Fischer "much better" that Chris Paul and Jason Kidd.

Players (plural) = collectively, i.e., team defense.

I already gave the head-to-head matchup to Billups (v. D-Fish) before the series started.

Try to keep up.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:30 AM
:~ohyah!:


http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/5/19/128872744636244807.jpg

Ha!

A dejected Porky.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Oh, it's "team defense" now, is that it? ROFL!

Whatever, he won't have another bad night Thursday.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Lakers fans are a lot like USC fans ... not much sportsmanlike discourse.

cutthemdown
05-20-2009, 12:32 AM
I'm a Nuggets fan too spdirty ... but the refs actually gave the Nuggets a HUGE bad call at the end: Chauncey's foot was on the sideline when he made that huge 3-pointer with 30 seconds to play.

The refs didn't favor either team really ... definitley not LA, but not Denver either. Like I said, the Nuggets were #1 in number of foul shots all year, so don't be shocked when it carries over.

People have no idea how hard it is to call a basketball game. I did that at the local park when I was younger and it was really tough even to ref a kids game. The refs tonight missed calls here and there but nothing for Gaffney to write a book about.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:36 AM
Lakers fans are a lot like USC fans ... not much sportsmanlike discourse.

Not seeing much "sportsmanlike discourse" from the Nuggets fans here (see endless "Kobe is a rapist" classlessness/false witness, for example.)

I, for one, have not made it personal or gotten into name-calling with the Nuggets fans here.

And I certainly haven't claimed that any of the Nuggets' players "suck" just because I don't like them.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:38 AM
Oh, it's "team defense" now, is that it? ROFL!

Whatever, he won't have another bad night Thursday.

Why do you overlook the fact that I said "players" (plural) in my OP?

Had I said "D-Fish is a better PG than Billups" then you might have reason to bust my chops here, but that didn't happen.

montrose
05-20-2009, 12:41 AM
Boy 2009 has been a banner year for me:

Broncos dismantled - Check
Lose Job - Check
Lose Girlfriend - Check
Family Health Issues - Check
Nuggets about to be swept by Lakers again - Check

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:45 AM
Boy 2009 has been a banner year for me:

Broncos dismantled - Check
Lose Job - Check
Lose Girlfriend - Check
Family Health Issues - Check
Nuggets about to be swept by Lakers again - Check

Hey - that's my year! (Except I count #3 and #5 as positives.) ;)

On the real, hope things get better for you and yours in '09.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:45 AM
Not seeing much "sportsmanlike discourse" from the Nuggets fans here (see endless "Kobe is a rapist" classlessness/false witness, for example.)

I, for one, have not made it personal or gotten into name-calling with the Nuggets fans here.

And I certainly haven't claimed that any of the Nuggets' players "suck" just because I don't like them.
Well at least you're saying Nuggets now, thanks for that. And yes, the Kobe rapist stuff is actually much worse than anything you and A.L.F. have said, fair enough.

But show some sportmanship here maybe ... you're a LAKERS fan ferhevvinsake, and we're NUGGETS fans. You just won at home by a mere 2 ... show some appreciation for what that means in historical context maybe.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:49 AM
Great example ... CU was coming back as a football team in the mid-80s, and we thought we had a chance in Lincoln that year. Well, they beat us 7-0. That's right, seven to nothing. FB Tom Rathman had an 80-yard TD run.

Anyway, the Husker nation stood and gave the Buffs a standing ovation as the game ended and we walked off. I wanted to hate those filthy Bugshuckers so badly, but that was such an amazing showing of sportsmanship, I actually gained a respect for them and their fans that grudingly survives to this date.

And that game was a very, VERY similar circumstance to tonight.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:50 AM
Well at least you're saying Nuggets now, thanks for that.

Don't get too used to it. ;)

Nicknames for rival teams and players are fair game.


And yes, the Kobe rapist stuff is actually much worse than anything you and A.L.F. have said, fair enough.

Amen. That's just vile.

But show some sportmanship here maybe ... you're a LAKERS fan ferhevvinsake, and we're NUGGETS fans. You just won at home by a mere 2 ... show some appreciation for what that means in historical context maybe.

You're right - I should recognize that coming within three points of beating the Lakers at Staples is like the Nugs' NBA finals. ;)

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:55 AM
You're right - I should recognize that coming within three points of beating the Lakers at Staples is like the Nugs' NBA finals. ;)
SWING and a miss! :~ohyah!:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-20-2009, 12:56 AM
SWING and a miss! :~ohyah!:

OK - if you say so, amigo.

Anyway, gotta go ice the back - have a nice evening, and GO LAKERS!

http://www.clublakers.com/forum/images/smilies/ball1.gif

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 01:01 AM
OK - if you say so, amigo.
C'mon, that was clearly a condescending statement.

I'll re-post the Nebraska example below ... but if you have to use Cornhusker Nation as an example of how to behave, maybe you're already a lost cause ;D




Hope your back gets better.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 01:02 AM
Here you go, Laker Nation ... here's how you might want to act if you win the series:


Great example ... CU was coming back as a football team in the mid-80s, and we thought we had a chance in Lincoln that year. Well, they beat us 7-0. That's right, seven to nothing. FB Tom Rathman had an 80-yard TD run.

Anyway, the Husker nation stood and gave the Buffs a standing ovation as the game ended and we walked off. I wanted to hate those filthy Bugshuckers so badly, but that was such an amazing showing of sportsmanship, I actually gained a respect for them and their fans that grudingly survives to this date.

And that game was a very, VERY similar circumstance to tonight.

Maximus
05-20-2009, 01:06 AM
There are going to be a lot of games like this in this series.

Yeah 3 more :D

lex
05-20-2009, 01:15 AM
Any word on Smiths knee? BTW, everything wasnt going the Nuggets way tonight. Billups played like crap and he is a huge part of the offense.

24champ
05-20-2009, 01:19 AM
Any word on Smiths knee? BTW, everything wasnt going the Nuggets way tonight. Billups played like crap and he is a huge part of the offense.

Kobe played a part in that...

lex
05-20-2009, 01:45 AM
Kobe played a part in that...


Id hate to see what Paul Pierce would do against him.

DeusExManning
05-20-2009, 02:02 AM
Kobe played a part in that...

Billups will struggle when they put Ariza on him, he is not a good matchup in this series. The Lakers struggle against point guards that penetrate. If the Lakers were the Broncos their defensive line would be their defense against penetrating guards. Look at Aaron Brooks in the last series. Or Darren Williams. Chauncey shoots threes. Ariza is as good as Battier at perimeter defense. He has fast hands and is very tough.

Billups will not be a factor in this series. Nene and Anthony will have to win it.

DeusExManning
05-20-2009, 02:04 AM
The secret to beating the Lakers is quite easy.

Penetrate every single time.

OBF1
05-20-2009, 02:48 AM
Here you go, Laker Nation ... here's how you might want to act if you win the series:

I know how to act, My Laker team has won 9 NBA titles since I have been a fan. One day Nugget fans might know and stop playing internet know it all.ROFL!

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 03:44 AM
I know how to act, My Laker team has won 9 NBA titles since I have been a fan. One day Nugget fans might know and stop playing internet know it all.ROFL!

You read that wrong .... I didn't mean it that way.



Weiner.

UberBroncoMan
05-20-2009, 04:50 AM
Kobe played a part in that...

Not in the Nuggets HORRIFIC Free Throw shooting.

That cost the game in of itself seeing as how the Nuggets dominated the Lakers when it came to field goal shooting %.

The Nuggets lost the game at the line, nothing more and nothing less.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-20-2009, 05:28 AM
:stupid:

You forgot "Kobe is a rapist" and "the refs cost us the game."

You're slipping.

I signed off and am 3 pages late on this, but I'm not a Nuggets fan. Just a casual observer on this series and stating what the rest of the NBA world is thinking. He got paid, though, so what does he care?

Man-Goblin
05-20-2009, 07:09 AM
Wow. Laughing my ass off at this thread. How in the world could any sane person watch that game and come to the conclusion that the Nuggets are going to get swept? Buah.

The Nuggets should have won. They've got to feel like they outplayed them, which is a good thing. They lost for 3 glaring reasons:

1. Free throw shoooting - Duh

2. Missed opportunities - Several missed layups and open 3's that could have buried them, but alas. For instance, Melo (who was the best player on the court last night) had a WIDE OPEN 3 with the Nuggets up by 7 with I think 3 minutes and change to go. It could have been a kill shot, but it went in and out, then Kobe goes right down the floor and gets a 3 point play. That's a 6 point swing. You can't have that.

3. Anthony Carter inbounding the ball - I mean, WTF? Karl has done a good job with this team this year, but a high school coach would know not to have the shortest player on his team inbound the ball in that situation. If only the Nuggets still had Earl Boykins, maybe he would have been a better option. I mean, WTF? Add that to the fact that AC turns it over at an alarming rate, and it was just plain foolish. It's not even AC's fault that he was put in that situation; it's all on Karl there.

And as for the officiating, I thought they called it pretty well. They actually let them play; Imagine that! That's why it was such a great game to watch. If they called every little ticky tacker they would have ruined the game, it would have been an hour longer, and a million times less fun to watch. They called it like the 80's, which was nice.

Chris
05-20-2009, 08:59 AM
I'm worried George Karl is the guy that sends us home.

ColoradoBuff
05-20-2009, 09:00 AM
All Faker fans are fags and cry babies!

ColoradoBuff
05-20-2009, 09:03 AM
man i hate AC....Karl has to get over his man-crush with him. he doesn't belong on the floor! damn it!

ColoradoBuff
05-20-2009, 09:06 AM
we play with the same intensity and make our free throws...we win game 2. but the key is coming out with that same intensity!

Chris
05-20-2009, 09:31 AM
Carmelo is am emotional player. He's still a bit immature. I worry what a second loss would do to his intensity.

philiptr2
05-20-2009, 09:45 AM
Billups will struggle when they put Ariza on him, he is not a good matchup in this series. The Lakers struggle against point guards that penetrate. If the Lakers were the Broncos their defensive line would be their defense against penetrating guards. Look at Aaron Brooks in the last series. Or Darren Williams. Chauncey shoots threes. Ariza is as good as Battier at perimeter defense. He has fast hands and is very tough.

Billups will not be a factor in this series. Nene and Anthony will have to win it.

Wrong - First of all, Ariza matched mostly up against Melo and JR.

Second, Chauncey has made his living driving to the basket...he made a name for himself shooting 3s, but gets the majority of his points and assists when he puts the ball on the floor, and gets to the line.

Billups will play a huge role in this series.

philiptr2
05-20-2009, 09:48 AM
I have a question...In the first half, Carmelo made a 3 and they rulled it a 2 on the court. The announcers mentioned that the refs would review that play durring a timeout. Their replay clearly showed that it was a 3-pointer.

Were the nuggets ever creditied with that point? It could have made a huge difference in the last minute of the game.

Garcia Bronco
05-20-2009, 09:56 AM
Lakers got lucky. They played their best and still barely won.

Garcia Bronco
05-20-2009, 09:58 AM
I think Gasol is BeetleGeuse. Look at him next time he's playing. I swaer if your were standing next to train set and said Gasol, Gasol, Gasol...the dude would appear.

philiptr2
05-20-2009, 10:00 AM
Lakers got lucky. They played their best and still barely won.

Agreed.

I'm excitd for Thursday night....the Nuggs have shown that they come back angry after a loss in this year's playoffs.

Double digit win for the Nuggets!

The Big E
05-20-2009, 10:12 AM
Lakers got lucky. They played their best and still barely won.

Now THAT is funny. You think that was close to the Lakers best? ROFL!

Cool Breeze
05-20-2009, 10:14 AM
The secret to beating the Lakers is quite easy.

Penetrate every single time.



I agree
This and continue playing smothering defense
It was fun to see Kobe frustrated and bitchin...
Oh, and keep your head in the game! That steal at the end sucked...

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 10:27 AM
And we still won. If I was a Thugs fan, I'd be concerned about that. What happens when Bynum works his way into the series? Ditto re: Gasol on the defensive end.




If I was a lakers fan I would be concerned. The lakers didn't win that game, the nuggets poor FT% lost the game. Dont forget that coming into this game the nuggets had the best FT% in the postseason.

azbroncfan
05-20-2009, 10:34 AM
Did Bynum have another 6 pt 5 reb dominating game last night? I don't get the hype about this guy he has one good game every 6 or 7 games and the Laker fans are ready to label him up there with Shaq and Kareem. I only watched the 4th quarter and didn't even see him in the game.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 10:43 AM
IIt was fun to see Kobe frustrated and b****in...

Oh, and keep your head in the game! That steal at the end sucked...
Yeah, I can't believe that happened ... Anthony Carter, hard to believe, that was a major bonehead move ... they were praising Ariza last night, but honestly that pass was so soft, any player in the league couldda pulled off the steal. Brutal way to lose after we had led most of the way.

It's kinda sad that Lakers fans talk so much smack when they just BARELY squeaked out a win at home ... After all, it was Chauncey's first sub-par game this postseason, and it's tough to win on the road against anybody when your leader plays poorly.

Conversely, I thought every Laker played well, except Bynum, and he doesn't concern me much. In short, I think our chances Thursday are excellent. I agree with Flex, the Lakers should be concerned.


MEMO TO LABF: Your boy "Drew" played a mere 15 minutes last night, even less than I thought. I know your excuse was "he was in foul trouble," but no. Sorry to break it to you, but that was coach's decision. Nene fouled out and Carmelo played with 5 fouls, so ........

eddie mac
05-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Even scrolling through this thread it's pretty easy to see where the animosity towards Laker fans comes from.

Personally I've never come across a group of bigger headed ****s in my life and I'd love nothing more than to see them fall flat on their faces.

Garcia Bronco
05-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Now THAT is funny. You think that was close to the Lakers best? ROFL!

It was their best. And the Nuggs were stale. Wait till those guys get up here in the altitude.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 10:55 AM
Even scrolling through this thread it's pretty easy to see where the animosity towards Laker fans comes from.

Personally I've never come across a group of bigger headed ****s in my life and I'd love nothing more than to see them fall flat on their faces.

Yeah, it's sad ... true character becomes more evident in victory than in loss.

And there's a whole lotta "evident" in this thread.

TonyR
05-20-2009, 10:57 AM
And if they're honest with themselves (and if they actually follow the NBA) then they know they haven't seen anything close the Lakers' best shot.


Just a reminder that the Rockets took you to 7 without Yao...

OABB
05-20-2009, 11:02 AM
Even scrolling through this thread it's pretty easy to see where the animosity towards Laker fans comes from.

Personally I've never come across a group of bigger headed ****s in my life and I'd love nothing more than to see them fall flat on their faces.

It's funny, I see the total opposite. Also, you guys are whinier than Suns fans.
seriously, this thread is dripping with estrogen.

edit:watch your female jokes here, or you might see entire posts and rep points deleted....

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 11:10 AM
It's funny, I see the total opposite. Also, you guys are whinier than Suns fans.
seriously, this thread is dripping with estrogen.

edit:watch your female jokes here, or you might see entire posts and rep points deleted....

lol some flaker fans are gloating like they've won the finals, when in reality the won a game one by 2 pts to a team that missed 12 free throws.
You guys got extremely lucky.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 11:12 AM
Just a reminder that the Rockets took you to 7 without Yao...

And without McGrady.

dbfan4life
05-20-2009, 11:18 AM
It was their best. And the Nuggs were stale. Wait till those guys get up here in the altitude.

Sorry friend, but that was no where near the best the Lakers can play. The Nuggs were stale, alright. Stale at the free throw line. Other than that, they played as well as their capable of. Kobe was forced to take over that game after his supporting cast wasn't so supporting and their defense was horrid.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 11:22 AM
Sorry friend, but that was no where near the best the Lakers can play. The Nuggs were stale, alright. Stale at the free throw line. Other than that, they played as well as their capable of.
Sorry friend, but it's glaringly obvious you haven't watched Chancey Billups play lately if you think last night he played "as well as he's capable of." Thou shalt FAIL!


Kobe was forced to take over that game after his supporting cast wasn't so supporting and their defense was horrid.
Sorry, but only Andrew Bynum played a below-average game last night for the Lakers ... and like I said, he was clearly benched by Phil anyway. I suppose Gasol scored a few less points than usual, but his rebounding was excellent.

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 11:24 AM
Sorry friend, but that was no where near the best the Lakers can play. The Nuggs were stale, alright. Stale at the free throw line. Other than that, they played as well as their capable of. Kobe was forced to take over that game after his supporting cast wasn't so supporting and their defense was horrid.

Lol have you watched the nuggets outside of this game?

Man-Goblin
05-20-2009, 11:43 AM
Sorry, but only Andrew Bynum played a below-average game last night for the Lakers ... and like I said, he was clearly benched by Phil anyway. I suppose Gasol scored a few less points than usual, but his rebounding was excellent.

You're right. But you must realize that a 'below average' game from Andrew Bynum only brings him down to the Hakeem Olajuwan level of greatness. Granted, it is far below the Chamberlain/Russell hybrid level we're used to seeing from him, but it's still pretty good.

worm
05-20-2009, 11:45 AM
Lol have you watched the nuggets outside of this game?

Most people in this thread speaking so authoritatively are not even full-time basketball fans. They follow during the playoffs and yet they somehow are qualified to think they know about the season the Lakers OR Nuggets have had.

What most ARE qualified to do is exhibit their own personal bias against or for a team. Objectivity is dead on a sports message forum.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:00 PM
it is far below the Chamberlain/Russell hybrid level we're used to seeing from him, but it's still pretty good.
You're serious? A Chamberlain/Russell hybrid?!

Oh I see ... sarcasm ^5


I'm tellin ya, Bynum was benched last night, plain and simple. Played just 15 minutes. Yes, he had 5 fouls, but ferhevvinsake Nene fouled out, Carmelo played with 5, and K-Mart fouled out twice against Dallas. If a guy can really help you, you ride that horse to the end.

Interesting ... does anybody remember the ABA rule on fouling out? You never actually "fouled out" in the ABA. They merely said that every foul after the 6th personal was counted as a Technical foul. The Pacers used to leave George McGinnis in long after he commited #6.

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:07 PM
lol some flaker fans are gloating like they've won the finals, when in reality the won a game one by 2 pts to a team that missed 12 free throws.
You guys got extremely lucky.

Lucks got nothing to do with it, it's pretty clear that last night the Nuggets are not a Championship caliber team. If you want to win a Championship, you need to close a team out, make free throws, not turning the ball over, don't make stupid reach in fouls on Kobe (I still don't know why K-fart did that). Add it all up and the Nuggets blew it, I firmly believe their inexperience at this level of the playoffs showed.

Lakers will win game 2, you guys had a chance in game 1 to steal it and you failed. I don't think the Lakers are going to let the Nuggets get off to a good start in Staples Center.

Inkana7
05-20-2009, 12:13 PM
The past 8 games have proven to me that the Lakers are not a championship team. Period.

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:14 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/68/fullj.2e79a30825ed65c9bbaf0cfbae9b3586/2e79a30825ed65c9bbaf0cfbae9b3586-getty-87745951ab034_nugts_lakers.jpg



He awoke to the news that his beloved giant had publicly diminished him.

Kobe Bryant, who has said he loves Jerry West like a father, awoke to a Daddy Dearest.

"If I had to have somebody make a last-second shot, it would be Kobe Bryant," said Jerry West, former Lakers general manager in an interview.

"But even though it's hard for me to be objective, because I brought Kobe to Los Angeles, I do think LeBron has surpassed Kobe as a player."

LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers has surpassed Kobe Bryant as a player?

Bryant read it but didn't weep.

The Denver Nuggets felt it, and did.

They weren't just beaten, they were smothered, under two giant shoulders and one mammoth chip.

Although Bryant said he wasn't offended by the slight, you sure could have fooled a roaring Staples Center crowd and its stunned guests as he carried the Lakers to a 105-103 victory Tuesday in the opener of the Western Conference finals.

Yeah, as so often happens in the spring, this night was about Bryant, pushing his weary teammates past an energized opponent hoping to sneak away with one on the road.

Jerry West can steal his status, but Bryant was not going to let the Nuggets steal this game, in ways we have seen so much, you can put them in a checklist.

Scored 15 of the Lakers' final 23 points, leading them back from a seven-point deficit? Check.

"It's crazy that you start to get used to it," Lamar Odom said. "You get used to greatness."

Had the game's biggest assist on a double-teamed pass to Derek Fisher, who made a three-pointer in the final three minutes to give the Lakers the lead? Check.

"He has unbelievable will," Trevor Ariza said.

Grabbed the game's biggest rebound, on a missed J.R. Smith free throw in the final ticks? Check.

"He knows what this team needs, and he just does it," Ariza said.

Sank the game's biggest free throws, making six straight down the stretch? Check.

"He got more aggressive," Denver's Chauncey Billups said of Bryant's trips to the line. "You don't settle, you attack, that's what great ones do."

Covered the Nuggets two best players throughout the game, starting with Chauncey Billups and finishing with Carmelo Anthony? Check.

He switched to Anthony after Ariza, who was guarding him, picked up his fourth foul midway through the fourth quarter

Switched in typical Bryant fashion.

Said Coach Phil Jackson: "It was his idea."

Said Ariza: "He came over to me and said he was guarding him."

Bryant grinned.

"I had to go down there and wrestle with the bear, it's part of my responsibility to the team," he said.

He wrestled so hard, Billups scored one basket in the first half, while Anthony struggled to get open down the stretch.

"I had to dig a little deeper," Bryant said.

He dug so deep, Ariza credited Bryant with Ariza's soaring steal of Anthony Carter's inbounds pass toward Billups with 29 seconds remaining and the Lakers leading by two.

"The play was for Carmelo, but Kobe had him covered, so they had to go to Billups, and I was there," Ariza said.

Oh, and by the way, Bryant did all this after reinjuring the finger on his right hand at the start of the fourth quarter.

"No big deal," Bryant said. "It popped out, I popped it back in, went to the bench to get some tape, got back out there."

Overall, Kobe being "back out there" accounted for 40 points, six rebounds, and one sizable reminder.

You can have LeBron James on a quiet night in November, or a nationally televised Sunday afternoon in February.

You can have LeBron James on the insurance commercials and the up-close interviews and amid all that chalk above the scorer's table.

I'll take Kobe Bryant right now.

If LeBron James has indeed passed Kobe Bryant has a player, he has yet to touch him as a champion.

'That's not my goal, that's not my mission," Bryant said of being the best player. "My mission is to win a championship. And the debate of who is the best player, that's going to go on . . . that's not something I concern myself with."

Bryant said he was not upset at West's assertion.

"I love Jerry West to death, obviously everybody knows that," he said.

But he admitted that he does have a rear-view mirror, and he does check it out, and it can be sort of interesting.

"I do enjoy the challenge of having another player come along to challenge me for that top spot,"' he said. "'That's always fun."

I'll take LeBron James during the five months of the NBA season when it is fun.

I'll take Kobe Bryant right now, because he is all about right now

"It was a gut check for us," Bryant said late Tuesday night.

Once again, his guts won.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-sp-plaschke-lakers20-2009may20,0,7098737.column?track=rss

bombay
05-20-2009, 12:21 PM
You're serious? A Chamberlain/Russell hybrid?!

Oh I see ... sarcasm ^5


I'm tellin ya, Bynum was benched last night, plain and simple. Played just 15 minutes. Yes, he had 5 fouls, but ferhevvinsake Nene fouled out, Carmelo played with 5, and K-Mart fouled out twice against Dallas. If a guy can really help you, you ride that horse to the end.

Interesting ... does anybody remember the ABA rule on fouling out? You never actually "fouled out" in the ABA. They merely said that every foul after the 6th personal was counted as a Technical foul. The Pacers used to leave George McGinnis in long after he commited #6.

Damn, didn't remember that. Just the red white and blue ball and the introduction of the three point shot. And really tall hair.

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 12:27 PM
Lucks got nothing to do with it, it's pretty clear that last night the Nuggets are not a Championship caliber team. If you want to win a Championship, you need to close a team out, make free throws, not turning the ball over, don't make stupid reach in fouls on Kobe (I still don't know why K-fart did that). Add it all up and the Nuggets blew it, I firmly believe their inexperience at this level of the playoffs showed.

Lakers will win game 2, you guys had a chance in game 1 to steal it and you failed. I don't think the Lakers are going to let the Nuggets get off to a good start in Staples Center.

The lakers got lucky that the best FT shooting team in the postseason missed 12. They couldn't stop the nuggets. The nuggets beat themselves at the line.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:28 PM
[/B]

Damn, didn't remember that. Just the red white and blue ball and the introduction of the three point shot. And really tall hair.

I think they did it that way to avoid their best players going off the floor early ... they were all about the promotion of course.

I have some great GREAT memories of the old Auditorium Arena ... watching Mack Calvin, Bobby Jones, Ralph Simpson, Jan van Breda Kolff, Dave Robisch. And of course Larry Brown as coach ;D

bombay
05-20-2009, 12:35 PM
I think they did it that way to avoid their best players going off the floor early ... they were all about the promotion of course.

I have some great GREAT memories of the old Auditorium Arena ... watching Mack Calvin, Bobby Jones, Ralph Simpson, Jan van Breda Kolff, Dave Robisch. And of course Larry Brown as coach ;D

I remember all those guys. Mack Calvin had a liquor store out on Kipling just the other side of Alameda in the '80's.

The most vivid memory of an ABA guy is Artis Gilmore coming into an after hours club in Chicago one night (Arnie Morton's club Zorines) with 6 inch clear heals on his shoes with a goldfish in them and a top hat. He looked about 9' tall.

The Big E
05-20-2009, 12:38 PM
[/B]

And really tall hair.

That's funny. The first thing I thought of when I read that was Dr. J and the free throw line dunk in the dunk contest. That was still the best dunk from the free throw line IMO. They say that if you never saw Dr. J when he was in the ABA then you never saw the real Dr. Unfortunately, I never saw him in the ABA.

OK, now back to all of the insults, snipes, excuses, chest-thumping, ref blaming, and woefully biased analysis that this thread offers.

ColoradoBuff
05-20-2009, 12:39 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/68/fullj.2e79a30825ed65c9bbaf0cfbae9b3586/2e79a30825ed65c9bbaf0cfbae9b3586-getty-87745951ab034_nugts_lakers.jpg



He awoke to the news that his beloved giant had publicly diminished him.

Kobe Bryant, who has said he loves Jerry West like a father, awoke to a Daddy Dearest.

"If I had to have somebody make a last-second shot, it would be Kobe Bryant," said Jerry West, former Lakers general manager in an interview.

"But even though it's hard for me to be objective, because I brought Kobe to Los Angeles, I do think LeBron has surpassed Kobe as a player."

LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers has surpassed Kobe Bryant as a player?

Bryant read it but didn't weep.

The Denver Nuggets felt it, and did.

They weren't just beaten, they were smothered, under two giant shoulders and one mammoth chip.

Although Bryant said he wasn't offended by the slight, you sure could have fooled a roaring Staples Center crowd and its stunned guests as he carried the Lakers to a 105-103 victory Tuesday in the opener of the Western Conference finals.

Yeah, as so often happens in the spring, this night was about Bryant, pushing his weary teammates past an energized opponent hoping to sneak away with one on the road.

Jerry West can steal his status, but Bryant was not going to let the Nuggets steal this game, in ways we have seen so much, you can put them in a checklist.

Scored 15 of the Lakers' final 23 points, leading them back from a seven-point deficit? Check.

"It's crazy that you start to get used to it," Lamar Odom said. "You get used to greatness."

Had the game's biggest assist on a double-teamed pass to Derek Fisher, who made a three-pointer in the final three minutes to give the Lakers the lead? Check.

"He has unbelievable will," Trevor Ariza said.

Grabbed the game's biggest rebound, on a missed J.R. Smith free throw in the final ticks? Check.

"He knows what this team needs, and he just does it," Ariza said.

Sank the game's biggest free throws, making six straight down the stretch? Check.

"He got more aggressive," Denver's Chauncey Billups said of Bryant's trips to the line. "You don't settle, you attack, that's what great ones do."

Covered the Nuggets two best players throughout the game, starting with Chauncey Billups and finishing with Carmelo Anthony? Check.

He switched to Anthony after Ariza, who was guarding him, picked up his fourth foul midway through the fourth quarter

Switched in typical Bryant fashion.

Said Coach Phil Jackson: "It was his idea."

Said Ariza: "He came over to me and said he was guarding him."

Bryant grinned.

"I had to go down there and wrestle with the bear, it's part of my responsibility to the team," he said.

He wrestled so hard, Billups scored one basket in the first half, while Anthony struggled to get open down the stretch.

"I had to dig a little deeper," Bryant said.

He dug so deep, Ariza credited Bryant with Ariza's soaring steal of Anthony Carter's inbounds pass toward Billups with 29 seconds remaining and the Lakers leading by two.

"The play was for Carmelo, but Kobe had him covered, so they had to go to Billups, and I was there," Ariza said.

Oh, and by the way, Bryant did all this after reinjuring the finger on his right hand at the start of the fourth quarter.

"No big deal," Bryant said. "It popped out, I popped it back in, went to the bench to get some tape, got back out there."

Overall, Kobe being "back out there" accounted for 40 points, six rebounds, and one sizable reminder.

You can have LeBron James on a quiet night in November, or a nationally televised Sunday afternoon in February.

You can have LeBron James on the insurance commercials and the up-close interviews and amid all that chalk above the scorer's table.

I'll take Kobe Bryant right now.

If LeBron James has indeed passed Kobe Bryant has a player, he has yet to touch him as a champion.

'That's not my goal, that's not my mission," Bryant said of being the best player. "My mission is to win a championship. And the debate of who is the best player, that's going to go on . . . that's not something I concern myself with."

Bryant said he was not upset at West's assertion.

"I love Jerry West to death, obviously everybody knows that," he said.

But he admitted that he does have a rear-view mirror, and he does check it out, and it can be sort of interesting.

"I do enjoy the challenge of having another player come along to challenge me for that top spot,"' he said. "'That's always fun."

I'll take LeBron James during the five months of the NBA season when it is fun.

I'll take Kobe Bryant right now, because he is all about right now

"It was a gut check for us," Bryant said late Tuesday night.

Once again, his guts won.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-sp-plaschke-lakers20-2009may20,0,7098737.column?track=rss

*yawn*

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 12:42 PM
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He awoke to the news that his beloved giant had publicly diminished him.

Kobe Bryant, who has said he loves Jerry West like a father, awoke to a Daddy Dearest.

"If I had to have somebody make a last-second shot, it would be Kobe Bryant," said Jerry West, former Lakers general manager in an interview.

"But even though it's hard for me to be objective, because I brought Kobe to Los Angeles, I do think LeBron has surpassed Kobe as a player."

LeBron James of the Cleveland Cavaliers has surpassed Kobe Bryant as a player?

Bryant read it but didn't weep.

The Denver Nuggets felt it, and did.

They weren't just beaten, they were smothered, under two giant shoulders and one mammoth chip.

Although Bryant said he wasn't offended by the slight, you sure could have fooled a roaring Staples Center crowd and its stunned guests as he carried the Lakers to a 105-103 victory Tuesday in the opener of the Western Conference finals.

Yeah, as so often happens in the spring, this night was about Bryant, pushing his weary teammates past an energized opponent hoping to sneak away with one on the road.

Jerry West can steal his status, but Bryant was not going to let the Nuggets steal this game, in ways we have seen so much, you can put them in a checklist.

Scored 15 of the Lakers' final 23 points, leading them back from a seven-point deficit? Check.

"It's crazy that you start to get used to it," Lamar Odom said. "You get used to greatness."

Had the game's biggest assist on a double-teamed pass to Derek Fisher, who made a three-pointer in the final three minutes to give the Lakers the lead? Check.

"He has unbelievable will," Trevor Ariza said.

Grabbed the game's biggest rebound, on a missed J.R. Smith free throw in the final ticks? Check.

"He knows what this team needs, and he just does it," Ariza said.

Sank the game's biggest free throws, making six straight down the stretch? Check.

"He got more aggressive," Denver's Chauncey Billups said of Bryant's trips to the line. "You don't settle, you attack, that's what great ones do."

Covered the Nuggets two best players throughout the game, starting with Chauncey Billups and finishing with Carmelo Anthony? Check.

He switched to Anthony after Ariza, who was guarding him, picked up his fourth foul midway through the fourth quarter

Switched in typical Bryant fashion.

Said Coach Phil Jackson: "It was his idea."

Said Ariza: "He came over to me and said he was guarding him."

Bryant grinned.

"I had to go down there and wrestle with the bear, it's part of my responsibility to the team," he said.

He wrestled so hard, Billups scored one basket in the first half, while Anthony struggled to get open down the stretch.

"I had to dig a little deeper," Bryant said.

He dug so deep, Ariza credited Bryant with Ariza's soaring steal of Anthony Carter's inbounds pass toward Billups with 29 seconds remaining and the Lakers leading by two.

"The play was for Carmelo, but Kobe had him covered, so they had to go to Billups, and I was there," Ariza said.

Oh, and by the way, Bryant did all this after reinjuring the finger on his right hand at the start of the fourth quarter.

"No big deal," Bryant said. "It popped out, I popped it back in, went to the bench to get some tape, got back out there."

Overall, Kobe being "back out there" accounted for 40 points, six rebounds, and one sizable reminder.

You can have LeBron James on a quiet night in November, or a nationally televised Sunday afternoon in February.

You can have LeBron James on the insurance commercials and the up-close interviews and amid all that chalk above the scorer's table.

I'll take Kobe Bryant right now.

If LeBron James has indeed passed Kobe Bryant has a player, he has yet to touch him as a champion.

'That's not my goal, that's not my mission," Bryant said of being the best player. "My mission is to win a championship. And the debate of who is the best player, that's going to go on . . . that's not something I concern myself with."

Bryant said he was not upset at West's assertion.

"I love Jerry West to death, obviously everybody knows that," he said.

But he admitted that he does have a rear-view mirror, and he does check it out, and it can be sort of interesting.

"I do enjoy the challenge of having another player come along to challenge me for that top spot,"' he said. "'That's always fun."

I'll take LeBron James during the five months of the NBA season when it is fun.

I'll take Kobe Bryant right now, because he is all about right now

"It was a gut check for us," Bryant said late Tuesday night.

Once again, his guts won.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-sp-plaschke-lakers20-2009may20,0,7098737.column?track=rss

Great fluff. I like the fact that they pimp kobe covering Melo. Was this before or after his 39?

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:45 PM
The lakers got lucky that the best FT shooting team in the postseason missed 12. They couldn't stop the nuggets. The nuggets beat themselves at the line.


Nuggets made the mistake of letting the Lakers hang around all game and falling apart at the end. This will haunt the Nuggets for awhile.

They won't get the calls in the next game, and certainly won't get off to a great start in the 1st quarter like the Nuggets did in game 1. Lakers will come out better in game 2, more prepared for the Nuggets.

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:46 PM
Great fluff. I like the fact that they pimp kobe covering Melo. Was this before or after his 39?

Read the piece again, clearly said Kobe covered Billups and then switched to Melo in the end of the 4th quarter and Plaschke is not a guy to write fluff pieces for the Lakers or hell any team in the LA area.

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 12:48 PM
Read the piece again, clearly said Kobe covered Billups and then switched to Melo in the end of the 4th quarter and Plaschke is not a guy to write fluff pieces for the Lakers or hell any team in the LA area.

KK. I stand corrected.

TheManeMan
05-20-2009, 12:53 PM
And you still lost.

Wait 'til Drew plays his way into the series. :wiggle:

Gasol didn't show up on defense until late in the 4th and Bynum was in foul trouble.

Perhaps that's what he meant. ;)

And we still won. If I was a Thugs fan, I'd be concerned about that. What happens when Bynum works his way into the series? Ditto re: Gasol on the defensive end.

I think I finally figured out whats kept Bynum down all year. LABF has been swinging on his nuts since November.

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 12:53 PM
Nuggets made the mistake of letting the Lakers hang around all game and falling apart at the end. This will haunt the Nuggets for awhile.

They won't get the calls in the next game, and certainly won't get off to a great start in the 1st quarter like the Nuggets did in game 1. Lakers will come out better in game 2, more prepared for the Nuggets.

Who knows. I'm just tired of lakers fans acting like this was some sort of blowout.
The nuggets and lakers are just as good as eachother.

24champ
05-20-2009, 12:56 PM
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LOS ANGELES Heads bowed and bodies bent, the Nuggets stumbled unsteadily away from the court, caught in a cruel cascade of confetti.

They had just endured the team's worst loss ever. Suffer the Nuggets did.

It wasn't Game 7 of a playoff series. It wasn't a 40-point beatdown. It wasn't at home. It wasn't on a last-second 3-pointer. And it wasn't because of a lack of effort, energy and enthusiasm.

But It was to the high-and-brash Lakers, and it was in a game that the Nuggets should have won, and it was the Game 1 that got away, and it was the Nuggets' prime opportunity to win on the road in the series, and it was a chance to erase all the grimy memories of last season's sweep and previous playoff series with the Lakers, and it was turned on a sloppy, senseless inbound play.

It was the game that will prevent the Nuggets from winning the Western Conference finals. When the series is over, the Nuggets and their partisans will reflect sadly on Tuesday night in downtown L.A.

This brass ring doesn't come around often.

Since the Nuggets joined the NBA, no other defeat has been so crushing.

George Karl said the Nuggets "probably played well enough to win (but) there are no moral victories in playoff basketball.

"The next 48 hours are going to be difficult."

The Nuggets didn't steal one on the road; they had one stolen from them literally.

In a two-point game with a half minute remaining, Los Angeles' Trevor Ariza stole Anthony Carter's inbound pass.

Kobe Bryant got the ball, got fouled, got the two free throws and got the Lakers the victory. Gotcha.

"We missed out on a great opportunity to steal this game," said Chauncey Billups, who was the intended recipient for Carter's lazy lob. "We're going to continue to fight."

Yeah, but there is the extra L.A. game if the series stretches to seven, and the Nuggets, who rarely win here (and especially in the playoffs), won't be sneaking up on the Lakers anymore.

The city was much more interested in a second earthquake in three years, and the Nuggets' hopes disinterested everybody. "Not as good as Houston . . . Lakers have momentum . . . What time is the first game with Cleveland? . . . The Nuggets will last four or five games."

After the first quarter, in which Carmelo Anthony came out like Smokin' Joe Frazier and the Nuggets were ahead by as many as 13, Charles Richter and his scale should have shown up to measure the tremors the Lakers were feeling.

Melo was outshining Kobe and all the stars in the ego seats at the Staples Center. There had been mistaken beliefs that the Lakers' front court would dominate Denver's. Anthony went off for 20 points in the first half, and Nene had 14 and Kenyon Martin 11 for 45 points. The Lakers' trio of Ariza, Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol stunk with 14 points.

Problem was, the Nuggets' Backcourt Quartet was, well, out of sorts. Billups had five points, J.R. Smith and Dahntay Jones one each and Carter zero. Bryant was outscoring them with his left hand.

Still, the Nuggets hung and led by seven in the fourth quarter. Kobe acknowledged there "a little bit of desperation. . . . We just had to gut it out. It was a tough game."

Guess who exploded for guess what in the final quarter. Kobe had 18, eight of the last 10. Meanwhile, he and a rather large group of Lakers enclosed Anthony, who, at one point, was trapped in the corner and had
to call time. He had nine in the quarter, 39 for the game.

But, much as in the loss last series at Dallas, Carmelo ended up a shade short. He had 41 before, Dirk Nowitzki 44. Kobe finished with 40 on Tuesday.

The Nuggets are regularly blowing out people at home, but all three of their postseason losses have been by two points.

They could be undefeated in the playoffs. They could be defeated by this setback.

Lakers coach Phil Jackson grudgingly gave some credit to the Nuggets. "I think they outplayed us, and we won the game."

That was the disheartening aspect for the Nuggets. They likely won't outplay the Lakers here again. The Lakers looked sluggish and too relaxed after the easy Game 7 breeze against the Rockets. The Nuggets had time to repair and prepare before the Western Conference finals, and they were the better team for much of the game.

But the absence of guard offense no 3-pointers until late, very little lane-driving free-throw shooting, weak bench play and the inability, really, to stop Kobe, plus that unacceptable turnover did in the Nuggets.

The Nuggets have been foul on the foul line the entire postseason and made only 23-of-35 in Game 1. They could have distanced themselves by making even 75 percent.

In the end, the Nuggets' best game in L.A. was ruined by their worst loss in the playoffs.

Unfortunately, the Nuggets always will regret it unless their raise their heads and stand tall.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12408620

TonyR
05-20-2009, 01:23 PM
...you guys had a chance in game 1 to steal it...

Steal it? A steal is when you get outplayed and get lucky and win. Overall the Nuggets outplayed the Lakers last night. Phil Jackson said so himself. So if anybody did any stealing last night it was the Lakers. They are very fortunate that they didn't lose that game, and their home court advantage along with it, last night.

24champ
05-20-2009, 01:29 PM
Steal it? A steal is when you get outplayed and get lucky and win. Overall the Nuggets outplayed the Lakers last night. Phil Jackson said so himself. So if anybody did any stealing last night it was the Lakers. They are very fortunate that they didn't lose that game, and their home court advantage along with it, last night.

I should have clarified that by saying stealing HCA away from the Lakers.

Flex Gunmetal
05-20-2009, 01:39 PM
Pau looks very awkward on the cover of spanish rolling stone. lolz

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 01:40 PM
Artis ... what great memories.

Artis Gilmore at center, Dan Issel at power forward and Louis Dampier at point guard was a serious trio to reckon with on the Kentucky Colonels.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 01:41 PM
Steal it? A steal is when you get outplayed and get lucky and win. Overall the Nuggets outplayed the Lakers last night. Phil Jackson said so himself. So if anybody did any stealing last night it was the Lakers. They are very fortunate that they didn't lose that game, and their home court advantage along with it, last night.

Now THAT is the rare post where every single word is accurate :thumbs:

cutthemdown
05-20-2009, 02:22 PM
So first it was nuggets will beat Lakers they are playing better. Now it's Lakers were lucky to win they were outplayed.

What's it going to be when Lakers take the series? The bottom line is Lakers are better then nuggets. Get over it.

oubronco
05-20-2009, 02:53 PM
I think I finally figured out whats kept Bynum down all year. LABF has been swinging on his nuts since November.

WOOHOO :spit:

24champ
05-20-2009, 03:13 PM
Pau looks very awkward on the cover of spanish rolling stone. lolz

Here's a funny commercial...

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24champ
05-20-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm not sure what's "priceless" there, they lost. They're not gonna be celebrating ???

And I just watched George Karl, he was definitely NOT at a loss for words.


George Karl was definitely dejected.


After the loss, as his players slowly buttoned shirts and tried stiff upper lips on for size in a quiet visitors locker room, Denver coach George Karl sat slumped on a chair in his office for a very long time, his head so heavy with dejection it seemed impossible for him to lift it. Anybody who walked by could see Karl's agonized dejection.

This is not how a champion acts.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12408378

24champ
05-20-2009, 03:21 PM
PLAYA VISTA, CALIF. As if the Nuggets' problems beating the Lakers weren't enough, injuries are starting to creep into the picture.

Both guard J.R. Smith and forward Kenyon Martin will play with ailments in Game 2. Smith said he has a calf strain and limped around the Los Angeles Clippers practice facility, where coach George Karl put his Nuggets through drills today.

Smith did not run during practice. He did some treadmill work beforehand and sat out much of the on-court session. Still, he says he'll be ready to go for Thursday night's game.

"I'm definitely going to play," Smith said. "I don't think nothing can keep me from this game. It's getting better. It's more of a calf strain than anything. I'm doing the right thing, just staying and getting extra treatment. I'll be ready for tomorrow."

Martin fractured his left ring finger during the Nuggets' loss, but is expected to play Thursday night. Also, Renaldo Balkman, who didn't play in the first game, is nursing a sprained ankle. He'll be available Thursday night.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12411996

DBruleU
05-20-2009, 03:30 PM
George Karl was definitely dejected.




http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_12408378

Enough of your stupid BS.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=NuggetsLakers-090520

"LOS ANGELES -- They mocked Carmelo Anthony's socks because the gaudy red-and-white pattern matched the hat on the front of all those Dr. Seuss books.

They razzed Chauncey Billups for continuing to carry a Michigan driver's license and snickered at his mug shot as teammates passed it around.

The Denver Nuggets generally masked their despair quite well late Tuesday night, leaving visitors to the losing locker room at Staples Center with the distinct impression that falling agonizingly short of what might have been the finest win in the club's NBA history might not capsize this team."

bombay
05-20-2009, 04:50 PM
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The Big E
05-20-2009, 04:57 PM
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Darnell Hillman was the ABA big hair king.

Awesome!

Here's a challenger from a TV Show.

azbroncfan
05-20-2009, 05:04 PM
PLAYA VISTA, CALIF. —

Both guard J.R. Smith and forward Kenyon Martin will play with ailments in Game 2. Smith said he has a calf strain and limped around the Los Angeles Clippers practice facility, where coach George Karl put his Nuggets through drills today.


That place is right accross the street where I have been staying in LA for past 3 weeks. Should walk over and tell them to man up instead of choking at the end of the game.

BroncoBuff
05-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Darnell Hillman ... he and his hair were with George McGinnis on the Pacers.

OBF1
05-20-2009, 05:18 PM
That place is right accross the street where I have been staying in LA for past 3 weeks. Should walk over and tell them to man up instead of choking at the end of the game.

You do that, I am sure they look forward to hearing from you ;D