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Paladin
05-14-2009, 09:47 PM
Marc Jackson "This is BAD refereeing"

Jeff Van Gundy "Im getting texts from former pros about the bad refereeing tonight"

Tonight was so obvious it was just comical.:giggle:

Atrocious refereeing aside, I'd have to pin this loss on Phil Jackson. He left Kobe on the bench for too long in the 4th, that cost us a chance at the game.

Awwwwwwwwwwwww...... Isn't that special?

How those cookies feel up there about now? Tou feeling a bit cramped up?

Good.

When the Flakers win, lets talk....

broncofan2438
05-14-2009, 09:47 PM
Just got back from Denver. Went to Nuggs Mavs game 5. Was the best time....that place was rocking. Got a picture with birdman and his autograph

24champ
05-14-2009, 09:48 PM
Ha!

David Stern was asked what his ideal Finals matchup would be. "The Lakers versus the Lakers,"

He said he was rooting for the refs.

But it's funny watching you Nugget clowns on here scared of playing the Lakers and rooting for the Rockets all of a sudden.:rofl:

theAPAOps5
05-14-2009, 09:51 PM
He said he was rooting for the refs.

But it's funny watching you Nugget clowns on here scared of playing the Lakers and rooting for the Rockets all of a sudden.:rofl:

Not me I want the Lakers they are the easiest road to the finals..... They are a soft mentally weak team.




Yeah I know this can come and bite me in the ass but I don't care!

24champ
05-14-2009, 09:51 PM
Awwwwwwwwwwwww...... Isn't that special?

How those cookies feel up there about now? Tou feeling a bit cramped up?

Good.

When the Flakers win, lets talk....

I'm not worried about game 7, in fact I'm purchasing some WCF tickets tomorrow when they go on sale.

NFLBRONCO
05-14-2009, 09:52 PM
I like the Lakers alot and would root for them over any team in NBA except Denver. Laker and Spurs fans have ZERO to complain about refs though they get plenty of calls go their way in alot of games/series. The NBA wants LA Clev Boston in Finals most of all.

LA will win plenty of rings I think it would be cool for the league overall if Denver and Clev went to finals. Give hope to small market teams.

ohiobronco2
05-14-2009, 09:53 PM
Rockets have a lot of heart. Just imagine what would happen to the Lakers if they lost their two best players. While they have a lot of talent, they are very up and down. I think that is eventually going to come back to bite them.

Moreno Knows Best
05-14-2009, 09:54 PM
I'm not worried about game 7, in fact I'm purchasing some WCF tickets tomorrow when they go on sale.

Hey man, I'm glad you said this, because I need opinions. I'm trying to plan a trip up to Denver for next weekend. Have they said anything about when the games would be played?

It seems to me like it would be:
@LA Tues
@LA Thurs
@DEN Sat
@DEN Mon

You got any ideas? Tix go on sale for the Nuggies as well, but when there are flights, time off work, etc, involved, it's hard to purchase this stuff on a hunch. Especially when I basically have to guess which game to purchase, 3 or 4.

enjolras
05-14-2009, 09:55 PM
Rockets have a lot of heart. Just imagine what would happen to the Lakers if they lost their two best players. While they have a lot of talent, they are very up and down. I think that is eventually going to come back to bite them.

It's 1 game... so all bets are off really:)

NFLBRONCO
05-14-2009, 09:56 PM
He said he was rooting for the refs.

But it's funny watching you Nugget clowns on here scared of playing the Lakers and rooting for the Rockets all of a sudden.:rofl:

If they call a pretty fair series in WCF I think Denver could win this year.

spdirty
05-14-2009, 09:56 PM
He said he was rooting for the refs.

But it's funny watching you Nugget clowns on here scared of playing the Lakers and rooting for the Rockets all of a sudden.:rofl:

I wasnt talking about tonight, but he said it. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jack_mccallum/04/15/perfect.ending0421/



We aren't scared, just laughing. And find it funny that with all the bravado you guys have spouted about how great your team is, including completely overlooking the west and matching yourselves up against the Cavs, where of course the Cavs might extend the series to 4 in that scenario, now your team is thrown into a game 7 against a team who doesnt even have 2 of their best players.

And personally, for me, can't speak for other Nuggets fans, but I want the Lakers. Especially with the way this scenario has been laid out, with you guys starting the WCF with 48 hours rest coming off a 7 gamer, whereas we will have had 6 days rest. And before you start, this isn't baseball. Rust should shake off after about half a quarter.

bronco militia
05-14-2009, 09:56 PM
Hey man, I'm glad you said this, because I need opinions. I'm trying to plan a trip up to Denver for next weekend. Have they said anything about when the games would be played?

It seems to me like it would be:
@LA Tues
@LA Thurs
@DEN Sat
@DEN Mon

You got any ideas? Tix go on sale for the Nuggies as well, but when there are flights, time off work, etc, involved, it's hard to purchase this stuff on a hunch. Especially when I basically have to guess which game to purchase, 3 or 4.

plan on at least 2 days between games

Moreno Knows Best
05-14-2009, 09:58 PM
What? Why? I thought they only got 2 days when they were traveling.

ohiobronco2
05-14-2009, 09:58 PM
There will be no game 3 or 4 between the Lakers and Nuggets. Lakers will magically sweep all 4 games in game 1. They are better than every team in every single way. After their championship, Kobe is said to try and make raping young girls an Olympic sport.

DHallblows
05-14-2009, 10:02 PM
What? Why? I thought they only got 2 days when they were traveling.

The NBA is pretty retarded when it comes to scheduling. It's very possible it'll be 2 days each...at least on two separate occasions in the first four. Especially with fewer teams next round they may have to spread it out ??? Don't actually know, just a hunch though

24champ
05-14-2009, 10:03 PM
Hey man, I'm glad you said this, because I need opinions. I'm trying to plan a trip up to Denver for next weekend. Have they said anything about when the games would be played?

It seems to me like it would be:
@LA Tues
@LA Thurs
@DEN Sat
@DEN Mon

You got any ideas? Tix go on sale for the Nuggies as well, but when there are flights, time off work, etc, involved, it's hard to purchase this stuff on a hunch. Especially when I basically have to guess which game to purchase, 3 or 4.


This is the schedule if either the Nuggets or Lakers lose their next game:

Tuesday, May 19, Game 1: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Thursday, May 21, Game 2: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Saturday, May 23, Game 3: 5:30 p.m. (ABC)

Monday, May 25, Game 4: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Wednesday, May 27, Game 5: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Friday, May 29, Game 6: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Sunday, May 31, Game 7: 5:30 p.m. (ABC)

http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2009/05/13/lakers-would-love-a-denver-loss-tonight-and-possible-rest-period/16727/#more-16727

Moreno Knows Best
05-14-2009, 10:05 PM
This is the schedule if either the Nuggets or Lakers lose their next game:

Tuesday, May 19, Game 1: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Thursday, May 21, Game 2: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Saturday, May 23, Game 3: 5:30 p.m. (ABC)

Monday, May 25, Game 4: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Wednesday, May 27, Game 5: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Friday, May 29, Game 6: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Sunday, May 31, Game 7: 5:30 p.m. (ABC)

http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2009/05/13/lakers-would-love-a-denver-loss-tonight-and-possible-rest-period/16727/#more-16727

Perfect. I will go with game 3. I figured they'd want game 4 on the holiday. Gracias.

24champ
05-14-2009, 10:08 PM
Perfect. I will go with game 3. I figured they'd want game 4 on the holiday. Gracias.

Keep in mind nothing's official yet, but that is the likely scenario.

theAPAOps5
05-14-2009, 10:09 PM
This is the schedule if either the Nuggets or Lakers lose their next game:

Tuesday, May 19, Game 1: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Thursday, May 21, Game 2: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Saturday, May 23, Game 3: 5:30 p.m. (ABC)

Monday, May 25, Game 4: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Wednesday, May 27, Game 5: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Friday, May 29, Game 6: 6 p.m. (ESPN)

Sunday, May 31, Game 7: 5:30 p.m. (ABC)

http://lakers.freedomblogging.com/2009/05/13/lakers-would-love-a-denver-loss-tonight-and-possible-rest-period/16727/#more-16727

Well you can count on one thing, the nuggets won't lost the next game! :strong:

Moreno Knows Best
05-14-2009, 10:11 PM
Keep in mind nothing's official yet, but that is the likely scenario.

I hear ya, but that makes pretty logical sense. At the very least, I can count on game 3 being next fri, sat, or sun, and with the holiday it would be easy to fly in/out of denver next weekend no matter when game 3 is.

Of course, this all goes to hell if the Rockets pull off the upset of the year, but I don't think anybody honestly sees that happening.

Kaylore
05-14-2009, 10:11 PM
The Black Mangina (Wussicus Rapistinsi), is an elapid snake and is one of Africa's most hilarious and arrogant snakes. It is also known for being very whiny when disturbed or asked to play defense and will not hesitate to complain to the referees.

When warding off a bigger threat or feeling very threatened, the black mangina usually whines and asks to be traded, complaining with its potent b**** fest with each perceived slight, often attacking the refs, the media or head coach, unlike most other players. It can whine up to 50 times in a row. A single whine from from a black mangina can inject enough liquid courage into a mangina fan to make up to 10-25 grown men look like complete tools, easily embarrassing themselves and their team unless the appropriate attempt to show up is administered in time. When cornered, it might show up long enough to satisfy it's own ego, after which it will lay down and get stepped on easily over and over.
http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0144/6209/kobe_sad_feature.jpg

Willynowei
05-14-2009, 10:13 PM
I love it when Kobe takes every shot when they are down. Be fun to watch the Rockets beat them on Sun

He takes every shot and still his offensive efficiency is higher than the team average.

The Lakers other offensive players were shooting much worse before Kobe tried to take over offensively. LA's problems do not lie with Kobe, it lies with the lack of energy from their front line. Some of it has to do with the fact that Gasol is not a true center and Bynum's lack of production hurts them in the playoffs where physicality is ramped up.

When it comes down to it, so much attention is given towards Kobe and his shot selection, when in reality that has very little to do with the Laker's chances in games.

Kobe's shot selection is predicated on the performance of his team, but no single player affects their team performance more than Gasol. When Gasol plays hard, he creates consistent double teams on offense and is a force in the paint on defense.

When Gasol does not play hard, he is a liability in pick and roll situations like Yao Ming is with Houston, making LA weaker as a defensive unit. He also becomes a jump shooter on offense who is turned into a face-up jump shooter who shoots less than 45% at the elbows.

But this is less of a concern if they can find a way to get Bynum going. I'm a Phil Jackson fan though, I expect him to pull a fourth ring out of his ass, some how.

24champ
05-14-2009, 10:14 PM
The Black Mangina (Wussicus Rapistinsi), is an elapid snake and is one of Africa's most hilarious and arrogant snakes. It is also known for being very whiny when disturbed or asked to play defense and will not hesitate to complain to the referees.

When warding off a bigger threat or feeling very threatened, the black mangina usually whines and asks to be traded, complaining with its potent b**** fest with each perceived slight, often attacking the refs, the media or head coach, unlike most other players. It can whine up to 50 times in a row. A single whine from from a black mangina can inject enough liquid courage into a mangina fan to make up to 10-25 grown men look like complete tools, easily embarrassing themselves and their team unless the appropriate attempt to show up is administered in time. When cornered, it might show up long enough to satisfy it's own ego, after which it will lay down and get stepped on easily.
http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0144/6209/kobe_sad_feature.jpg

:spit:


Holy crap! I just spewed Jack and Coke all over my screen. That was funny as hell.....


http://angelinafauxlie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/khan.jpg

PaintballCLE
05-14-2009, 10:15 PM
just imagine if somehow its houston vs orlando in the finals............stern would have a stroke and die

24champ
05-14-2009, 10:17 PM
I hear ya, but that makes pretty logical sense. At the very least, I can count on game 3 being next fri, sat, or sun, and with the holiday it would be easy to fly in/out of denver next weekend no matter when game 3 is.

Of course, this all goes to hell if the Rockets pull off the upset of the year, but I don't think anybody honestly sees that happening.

I'm hoping to go to games 3 and maybe four, if I can get the tickets tomorrow that are on sale...if I can't get it through ticketmaster then I will likely be at just game three.

Moreno Knows Best
05-14-2009, 10:19 PM
Yeah I'm hoping to get them on TMaster as well.

I'd really rather not go StubHub, since funds are short right now. But it's the western conference finals, so I'll be there one way or the other.

Kaylore
05-14-2009, 10:21 PM
For the record, I'm ok with playing the Lakers or the Rockets. Either team would be incredibly hard. We were 1-3 against both in the regular season. I think we could play Lakers style ball with the Rockets, but be more physical and that would give us an edge there. Also, we'd have home court. The Lakers are the 1 seed and they've had our number in the past, but we'd be a good fight and I think it would be a good series we could win.

That said, I think it would be funny if the "team of destiny" that everyone has been rubbing one out to didn't even make to the conference finals. In that sense I do hope the Lakers lose, but not out of fear or whatever.

24champ
05-14-2009, 10:24 PM
Yeah I'm hoping to get them on TMaster as well.

I'd really rather not go StubHub, since funds are short right now. But it's the western conference finals, so I'll be there one way or the other.

One thing I did during the March Madness a couple years ago here in Denver was that I waited on the scalpers who wanted 80 for nosebleed seats...their prices kept dropping as the game time got closer. Eventually I got two tickets for 30 apiece but I missed the first 6 minutes of the 1st half of the tourney.

BTW Priority goes to people near Colorado or a Colorado residents for Ticketmaster.

Moreno Knows Best
05-14-2009, 10:29 PM
One thing I did during the March Madness a couple years ago here in Denver was that I waited on the scalpers who wanted 80 for nosebleed seats...their prices kept dropping as the game time got closer. Eventually I got two tickets for 30 apiece but I missed the first 6 minutes of the 1st half of the tourney.

BTW Priority goes to people near Colorado or a Colorado residents for Ticketmaster.

The only problem with that is, I refuse to fly out and not know where I'm sitting, if I will even get in, etc. If I lived in Denver it'd be a different situation.

And I read the priority thing, luckily New Mexico is in on that.

Man-Goblin
05-15-2009, 06:49 AM
So, who is going to guard Aaron Brooks? (ducks)

spdirty
05-15-2009, 06:54 AM
So, who is going to guard Scotty Brooks? (ducks)

Think Dahntay will do OK. Maybe him on Brooks, Billups on Artest, Melo on Battier, KMart on Scola, and Nene on the 6'6 center.:rofl:

Inkana7
05-15-2009, 09:02 AM
It was pretty obvious out there tonight, and two announcers were pretty ****ing pissed about it. It's not like these announcers were Laker honks, JVG was a former Rocket coach, mind you.

Considering that the Rockets only attempted 2 more FTs and only made 1 more than LA, shut the **** up?

DHallblows
05-15-2009, 09:05 AM
just imagine if somehow its houston vs orlando in the finals............stern would have a stroke and die

...so everyone should be rooting for a Magic/Rockets final? :angel:

broncofan2438
05-15-2009, 09:25 AM
I cant wait for Sunday already!

If thats the schedule for games that ALF posted....Game 3 would take plae on my wedding day a few hours before the whole shibang....Go Nuggets

24champ
05-15-2009, 09:30 AM
Considering that the Rockets only attempted 2 more FTs and only made 1 more than LA, shut the **** up?

Yeah because if you look at the STAT SHEET it clearly tells the whole story. ::)

Inkana7
05-15-2009, 09:40 AM
If the Rockets had 15 more FT attempts you may have had a point. But they didn't. So you don't. Lakers shot like ass, and that's why they lost.

24champ
05-15-2009, 09:51 AM
If the Rockets had 15 more FT attempts you may have had a point. But they didn't. So you don't. Lakers shot like ass, and that's why they lost.

So by your logic, if you are just looking at the stat sheet of a Broncos-Chargers game and both teams got penalized around 80 yards. Then the Refereeing was perfect...right?

Inkana7
05-15-2009, 09:58 AM
So by your logic, if you are just looking at the stat sheet of a Broncos-Chargers game and both teams got penalized around 80 yards. Then the Refereeing was perfect...right?

Totally different game.

azbroncfan
05-15-2009, 10:07 AM
Yeah because if you look at the STAT SHEET it clearly tells the whole story. ::)

Go figure the Laker fans are pointing and blaming the refs instead of just admitting the team of destiny isn't as great as they thought. Houston shot 2 more FT's big deal. The ref's didn't make a 15 pt difference.

Boobs McGee
05-15-2009, 10:08 AM
****ing ****. That was lame. are ya ****ing KIDDING ME LAKERS? IT's the ROCKETS. WITHOUT YAO. So frustrating :(

24champ
05-15-2009, 10:12 AM
Go figure the Laker fans are pointing and blaming the refs

Well I also singled out Phil Jackson for doing a piss poor job of managing minutes for the players.


But again Jeff Van Gundy, a former Rocket Coach and Marc Jackson calling the refereeing "bad" as well as publicly saying on the broadcast that JVG is getting texts about how bad the refereeing is from former NBA players.

Like I said it was pretty obvious.:giggle:

But hey long as the stat sheet says both teams had the same number of free throws the refereeing was great.:rofl:

azbroncfan
05-15-2009, 10:21 AM
Well I also singled out Phil Jackson for doing a piss poor job of managing minutes for the players.


But again Jeff Van Gundy, a former Rocket Coach and Marc Jackson calling the refereeing "bad" as well as publicly saying on the broadcast that JVG is getting texts about how bad the refereeing is from former NBA players.

Like I said it was pretty obvious.:giggle:

But hey long as the stat sheet says both teams had the same number of free throws the refereeing was great.:rofl:

They said it was bad which goes both ways. They never said there is a conspiracy from the refs to make the Lakers lose. ALF=2006 Angry Llama

24champ
05-15-2009, 10:26 AM
They said it was bad which goes both ways. They never said there is a conspiracy from the refs to make the Lakers lose. ALF=2006 Angry Llama

Where did I say there was a conspiracy? Hilarious!

Paladin
05-15-2009, 10:51 AM
Well, the reffing was bad both ways. So, the Flakers lost. Period. NO excuses. They flat stunk the place up. They were pathetic. I would think the Flakers might have a chance to win over the Nuggets if they were to somehow get their act together.

NO, I am not giving the Flakers a damm thing, nor am I giving the Cavs anything. I am looking for a Nuggets/Celts game in the finals.....

The Black Mangina peters out......

bfoflcommish
05-15-2009, 11:19 AM
Well, the reffing was bad both ways. So, the Flakers lost. Period. NO excuses. They flat stunk the place up. They were pathetic. I would think the Flakers might have a chance to win over the Nuggets if they were to somehow get their act together.

NO, I am not giving the Flakers a damm thing, nor am I giving the Cavs anything. I am looking for a Nuggets/Celts game in the finals.....

The Black Mangina peters out......

yep....there were a couple calls in second quarter on the rockets that had me shaking my head and made me turn the channel

Inkana7
05-15-2009, 11:29 AM
Yeah, that's been my point, ALF. The reffing didn't give an advantage to any side. So don't whine about it. There were only 43 total fouls anyways, not like that 89-call catastrophe of a game last week.

Flex Gunmetal
05-15-2009, 11:31 AM
What is alf gonna do if LA continues to implode and lose the series?

24champ
05-15-2009, 11:32 AM
Yeah, that's been my point, ALF. The reffing didn't give an advantage to any side. So don't whine about it. There were only 43 total fouls anyways, not like that 89-call catastrophe of a game last week.

I still disagree Inkana, but I moving on to game 7.

24champ
05-15-2009, 11:33 AM
What is alf gonna do if LA continues to implode and lose the series?

The thought hasn't entered my mind so I couldn't tell ya.:P

Rock Chalk
05-15-2009, 02:15 PM
GO ROCKETS.

**** LA (No offense ALF)

BroncoBuff
05-15-2009, 04:42 PM
I don't wanna jinx anything, but I'd have to favor the Nuggets over L.A.

Gasol is not playing tough inside ... he's gonna have trouble with Nene, K-Mart or Birdman. And I like Dahntay Jones and K-Mart to at least keep Kobe manageable, under 30 if possible.

24champ
05-15-2009, 05:27 PM
Thank yooooouuu ticketmaster. Got me some WCF tickets....

ak1971
05-15-2009, 05:31 PM
Thank yooooouuu ticketmaster. Got me some WCF tickets....

me too! I love jumping on the bandwagon

cutthemdown
05-15-2009, 05:38 PM
Oh so people in Denver care about the Nuggets now? Just wanted to make sure we got that correct because all yr not a peep out of most of you.

It's ok though, just in time for the bandwagon to be full the Nuggets will lose. They are destined to lose.

montrose
05-15-2009, 05:40 PM
I just have a bad feeling about playing the Lakers. The NBA wants a Kobe vs. LeBron Finals - bad. Spike Lee's comment earlier was "God willing, we'll get our Lakers/Cavs finals everyone wants." I've got no doubt that David Stern will do it whatever it takes to make it happen. The worst part is that I'd really like to see an objectively-called series between the Nugz and Lakers to see who the better team truly is. I just have my doubts that we'll get that.

bombay
05-15-2009, 05:46 PM
I'm surprised how quickly the rapists game is fading. He's still capable of a good performance on occasion, but has become very inconsistant. Guess his age and mileage is taking it's toll.

ak1971
05-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Oh so people in Denver care about the Nuggets now? Just wanted to make sure we got that correct because all yr not a peep out of most of you.

It's ok though, just in time for the bandwagon to be full the Nuggets will lose. They are destined to lose.

Yeah I also sold tickets to AFC Championship game a few years back..so suck suck on that. :welcome:

spdirty
05-15-2009, 06:28 PM
Thank yooooouuu ticketmaster. Got me some WCF tickets....

Will you be rooting for the Nuggets or the Rockets?

24champ
05-16-2009, 10:11 AM
Will you be rooting for the Nuggets or the Rockets?

I'm only going if the Lakers win....


and I'm going.;D

It's for the second home game, Monday or tuesday night.

spdirty
05-16-2009, 10:36 AM
I'm only going if the Lakers win....


and I'm going.;D

It's for the second home game, Monday or tuesday night.

Well Ill buy em from you if you dont wanna go.:P

lex
05-16-2009, 11:28 AM
I just have a bad feeling about playing the Lakers. The NBA wants a Kobe vs. LeBron Finals - bad. Spike Lee's comment earlier was "God willing, we'll get our Lakers/Cavs finals everyone wants." I've got no doubt that David Stern will do it whatever it takes to make it happen. The worst part is that I'd really like to see an objectively-called series between the Nugz and Lakers to see who the better team truly is. I just have my doubts that we'll get that.

This is absolutely and completely a legitimate concern. Its a concern I share. There are a variety of calls and inconsistencies this year and in previous years to back this concern up.

My concern is that they wont tolerate the same level of physicality that they tolerated last year with Boston and this year with Houston.

bronco militia
05-16-2009, 12:09 PM
Oh so people in Denver care about the Nuggets now? Just wanted to make sure we got that correct because all yr not a peep out of most of you.

It's ok though, just in time for the bandwagon to be full the Nuggets will lose. They are destined to lose.

what the hell is wrong with you?

Paladin
05-16-2009, 12:12 PM
Oh so people in Denver care about the Nuggets now? Just wanted to make sure we got that correct because all yr not a peep out of most of you.

It's ok though, just in time for the bandwagon to be full the Nuggets will lose. They are destined to lose.

(I meant to ask you: did you name yourself after a weedeater or some such I have a hard time assimilating your handle into a Board about the Broncos. Maybe it is just me.)

There are a number of us hereon that have followed the Nuggets for quite some time, dear boy. Many really came alive after Melo was drafted. I have always said that while many people "out there" did not consider Melo to be a very good player, me and about 18,000 of my compatriots filled the Can regularly to watch him play. Paying money to watch him play is what it is all about, don't you agree? That and watching the games on TV.....

The fact that he brought a bit of swagger to the team, and the potential he showed, and the last shot wins he had, made it easy to just follow the team thorough thick and thin. Many Nugget fans do not post on this board. There are a couple of other boards that the Nugget fans follow, and your cute little snide remark is just BS of the first kind. Frankly, "just kidding" is getting old coming from the Laker fans. There ought to be some room for a discussion about basketball without resorting to smack and insults and snide remarks. The Nuggets are playing a very good brand of basketball these days, and it is exciting to see it come together. And they are more than just Melo, now...

The Nuggets could well lose in the next round, but the arrogance and excessive bravado expressed by the LA shortsighted arrogant, entitled dimwits hereon tells me that there are some issues for the Lakers to deal with from their perspective. Frankly, I am hoping the Rockets kick the Lakers' sorry arses out of the tournament.

Can that happen? Sure. Will it happen? Dunno, they play the games, you know, and your wishing for an automatic win is not the way the thing works. I actually think the Nuggets would have a shot at getting to the Finals. Tough Shiat, Cut, me boy, Ain't an easy row for the Lakers.....

spdirty
05-16-2009, 12:23 PM
(I meant to ask you: did you name yourself after a weedeater or some such I have a hard time assimilating your handle into a Board about the Broncos. Maybe it is just me.)

There are a number of us hereon that have followed the Nuggets for quite some time, dear boy. Many really came alive after Melo was drafted. I have always said that while many people "out there" did not consider Melo to be a very good player, me and about 18,000 of my compatriots filled the Can regularly to watch him play. Paying money to watch him play is what it is all about, don't you agree? That and watching the games on TV.....

The fact that he brought a bit of swagger to the team, and the potential he showed, and the last shot wins he had, made it easy to just follow the team thorough thick and thin. Many Nugget fans do not post on this board. There are a couple of other boards that the Nugget fans follow, and your cute little snide remark is just BS of the first kind. Frankly, "just kidding" is getting old coming from the Laker fans. There ought to be some room for a discussion about basketball without resorting to smack and insults and snide remarks. The Nuggets are playing a very good brand of basketball these days, and it is exciting to see it come together. And they are more than just Melo, now...

The Nuggets could well lose in the next round, but the arrogance and excessive bravado expressed by the LA shortsighted arrogant, entitled dimwits hereon tells me that there are some issues for the Lakers to deal with from their perspective. Frankly, I am hoping the Rockets kick the Lakers' sorry arses out of the tournament.

Can that happen? Sure. Will it happen? Dunno, they play the games, you know, and your wishing for an automatic win is not the way the thing works. I actually think the Nuggets would have a shot at getting to the Finals. Tough Shiat, Cut, me boy, Ain't an easy row for the Lakers.....

Good post. Question I got for cutthemdown is, bandwagon since when? Since they traded for Chauncey, drafted Melo, when?

I mean is he saying that when the Nugs got the 2nd seed people still werent on till they beat Nawlins? I don't know, his point is stupid.

DBruleU
05-16-2009, 12:34 PM
Good post. Question I got for cutthemdown is, bandwagon since when? Since they traded for Chauncey, drafted Melo, when?

I mean is he saying that when the Nugs got the 2nd seed people still werent on till they beat Nawlins? I don't know, his point is stupid.

I get so tired of people throwing the word "bandwagon" around, as if to insult the local fans for cheering for their home team? What? People can't get excited for their team when they are playing well, are entertaining, and look like a legit championship team? I've always liked any Denver franchise, but it's hard to be excited year in and year out for a team that never seems to do much. Like the Rockies. The year they won the pennant was a great year. People came out for team because they were fun to watch. It's not hard to figure out.

It's not a bandwagon, it's human nature. People like winners, and will watch winners. If your precious Lakers (For gay ALF) weren't so good every year, you wouldn't be so high and mighty about them.

spdirty
05-16-2009, 12:50 PM
I get so tired of people throwing the word "bandwagon" around, as if to insult the local fans for cheering for their home team? What? People can't get excited for their team when they are playing well, are entertaining, and look like a legit championship team? I've always liked any Denver franchise, but it's hard to be excited year in and year out for a team that never seems to do much. Like the Rockies. The year they won the pennant was a great year. People came out for team because they were fun to watch. It's not hard to figure out.

It's not a bandwagon, it's human nature. People like winners, and will watch winners. If your precious Lakers (For gay ALF) weren't so good every year, you wouldn't be so high and mighty about them.

So I was a bad fan last year in the playoffs when I cussed the team after Melo came out and said "we quit?"

You know, bottom line is the Nuggets were the most despised 50 win NBA team probably ever. And for good reason. They were never going to do anything as currently constructed and I didnt necessarily condone Kroenke and his cost cutting but I sure as hell understood it and didnt blame him for it. That team was frustrating as hell, and this years team has seemed like a total and complete transformation. Chauncey, Dahntay, and Bird (mainly Chauncey) have transformed this team into a team that is extremely easy to adore. Yet we are the bandwagoners to those who refuse to pay attention to any of the recent history of this franchise.

Its just a chickenshlt word to throw around unless its undeniably true.

DBruleU
05-16-2009, 12:54 PM
So I was a bad fan last year in the playoffs when I cussed the team after Melo came out and said "we quit?"

You know, bottom line is the Nuggets were the most despised 50 win NBA team probably ever. And for good reason. They were never going to do anything as currently constructed and I didnt necessarily condone Kroenke and his cost cutting but I sure as hell understood it and didnt blame him for it. That team was frustrating as hell, and this years team has seemed like a total and complete transformation. Chauncey, Dahntay, and Bird (mainly Chauncey) have transformed this team into a team that is extremely easy to adore. Yet we are the bandwagoners to those who refuse to pay attention to any of the recent history of this franchise.

Its just a chickenshlt word to throw around unless its undeniably true.

I wasn't referring to you.

My point is, I get tired of being labeled a bandwagon fan because I rooting for the Nuggets now, but when they sucked, and fell out of the playoffs in years past with no sense of pride, no one wanted to pay attention to them, and for good reason. Now that they are actually playing up to their potential the city is behind them now. It would happen with any other team.

spdirty
05-16-2009, 01:03 PM
I wasn't referring to you.

My point is, I get tired of being labeled a bandwagon fan because I rooting for the Nuggets now, but when they sucked, and fell out of the playoffs in years past with no sense of pride, no one wanted to pay attention to them, and for good reason. Now that they are actually playing up to their potential the city is behind them now. It would happen with any other team.

Oh I know, I wasnt directing that post towards you, just frustrated at the arrogant ass Laker fans and others who want to throw that term out like Jesse Jackson throws the term racist around.

Whats funny though is the guy Laker fans can't stop slobbering over was the biggest bandwagon jumper in the league just 17 months ago.

Karenin
05-16-2009, 01:25 PM
what the hell is wrong with you?

He's a bitter, sad, old man.

TheManeMan
05-16-2009, 01:51 PM
I just heard quite the interesting factoid this afternoon: Since the "Malice in the Palace" and the ensuing 1 year suspension, Ron Artest has had 15 technicals, 1 flagrant, and has been thrown out of a game twice. Over that same time, Kobe Bryant has had 55 technicals, 3 flagrant fouls, and has been thrown out 4 times.

bombay
05-16-2009, 01:52 PM
With the exception of Bronconia, who's a good dude and legit fan, all the little faker boys here are bandwagoners.

Rock Chalk
05-16-2009, 03:34 PM
So when is game 1 of the Rockets Nuggest series?

enjolras
05-16-2009, 04:10 PM
Just to defend my fandom:

Been a nuggets fan since birth. I remember Abdul-Rauf, Stith, Mutombo, Pack, etc.. beating up on the Sonics in '94. I went to Nuggets games when they gave the single season mark for futility a solid run. Sine I moved to Denver I've attended double digit games every year and have watched playoff defeats each of the last 3 seasons.

You can suck your bandwagon accusation:)

Paladin
05-16-2009, 05:55 PM
Just to defend my fandom:

Been a nuggets fan since birth. I remember Abdul-Rauf, Stith, Mutombo, Pack, etc.. beating up on the Sonics in '94. I went to Nuggets games when they gave the single season mark for futility a solid run. Sine I moved to Denver I've attended double digit games every year and have watched playoff defeats each of the last 3 seasons.

You can suck your bandwagon accusation:)

Bravo!!!!

Remember Byron Beck? How about Thompson? Lever, Calvin Natt, Mack Calvin, Kiki, and Dan Issel? There were some fun teams in there, but they did not always win.

This year, with the leadership of Billups, the team is fun to watch and they have a good chance to win. What's not to like? And no damm LA critter can take away the achievements of this team. Hack away, critters.........

Rock Chalk
05-16-2009, 06:45 PM
I wouldnt call most Nugget fans bandwagon fans. Id think a better term for most of them (not all, there are soem diehards I understand that) is fairweather fans.

In fact, most fans in Denver of sports other than football seem to be fairweather fans. The Broncos and I guess, to a lesser degree, the Avalanche, have all the die hards.

Its like that in most cities though. The Rockets dominate Houston diehards with the Astros having the fairweather fans and the Texans just having new fans (though the Texans ratio of diehards is pretty strong considering the team is new and they havent had a winning season yet).

San Francisco, all fairweather all the time. The very definition of wine and cheese fans eminates from here.

New York all douchebag fans all the time.

Point is, Denver really isnt different that most of the cities out there. Seemingly one major dominating sport and a bunch of other sports where the fans are fickle.

But with the Nuggets, its hard to be a die hard. When you are a **** franchise for so long, a laughing stock, its hard to remain loyal and go to most of the games and watch every game.

DHallblows
05-16-2009, 08:09 PM
I wouldnt call most Nugget fans bandwagon fans. Id think a better term for most of them (not all, there are soem diehards I understand that) is fairweather fans.

In fact, most fans in Denver of sports other than football seem to be fairweather fans. The Broncos and I guess, to a lesser degree, the Avalanche, have all the die hards.

Its like that in most cities though. The Rockets dominate Houston diehards with the Astros having the fairweather fans and the Texans just having new fans (though the Texans ratio of diehards is pretty strong considering the team is new and they havent had a winning season yet).

San Francisco, all fairweather all the time. The very definition of wine and cheese fans eminates from here.

New York all douchebag fans all the time.

Point is, Denver really isnt different that most of the cities out there. Seemingly one major dominating sport and a bunch of other sports where the fans are fickle.

But with the Nuggets, its hard to be a die hard. When you are a **** franchise for so long, a laughing stock, its hard to remain loyal and go to most of the games and watch every game.

Yeah exactly. It's hard to remain loyal to a team that's terrible for a good...10 years. I've gone to Nuggets and Rockies games every year that I can remember because I'm a sports fan all around. But to stay diehard to those 2 like I do with the Avs and Broncos...it's tough. (That and I prefer contact sports over the other "sports")

I do think you're being a little rough on your names. You basically suggest there's diehard and fairweather with no in between. I'm a quality in-betweener for soccer, basketball and baseball. I don't watch every game on tv, but I'm most certainly not a fairweather fan...

Inkana7
05-16-2009, 10:06 PM
Cleveland fans are the most diehard I've ever met. They will cheer on the "Tribe" and the Browns no matter how much they both suck and blow.

enjolras
05-16-2009, 10:07 PM
Bravo!!!!

Remember Byron Beck? How about Thompson? Lever, Calvin Natt, Mack Calvin, Kiki, and Dan Issel? There were some fun teams in there, but they did not always win.

I do.. vaguely. I was pretty young, and didn't live in Denver so we almost never (well make that never) got to see games on TV. When we lived in Texas we could JUST get KOA, so I listened to a ton of Nuggets games on a radio with a lot of static.

enjolras
05-16-2009, 10:08 PM
The Nuggets actually had reasonable attendance in years where they where winning like 15 games.

Kaylore
05-17-2009, 07:12 AM
The Nuggets actually had reasonable attendance in years where they where winning like 15 games.

It's because they had these sweet deals where you could go with a date and get two hot dogs, two drinks and nachos for a few bucks and watch teams like the Bulls. Yeah we sucked, but it was fun for a date and you got to see some big name stars.

DHallblows
05-17-2009, 09:48 AM
Cleveland fans are the most diehard I've ever met. They will cheer on the "Tribe" and the Browns no matter how much they both suck and blow.

Well idk what else I'd do if I lived in Cleveland...
;D

Paladin
05-17-2009, 02:20 PM
It looks like the Flakers are going to win, but I saw some real chickenshyt calls. Kobe pushes a guy in front of him under the basket, no call, but Battier barely touches Kobe right after, and a foul is called. This is absolutely the shytiest reffing I have ever seen, and it is plain that the refs are favoring the Flakers.

If the Flakers play like this on Tuesday, I think the Nuggets can just roll them if the refs let them play......

Stern, you gutless drunk let them play.....

Inkana7
05-17-2009, 02:21 PM
Pretty much what I expected from this game.

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 02:33 PM
It looks like the Flakers are going to win, but I saw some real chickenshyt calls. Kobe pushes a guy in front of him under the basket, no call, but Battier barely touches Kobe right after, and a foul is called. This is absolutely the shytiest reffing I have ever seen, and it is plain that the refs are favoring the Flakers.

If the Flakers play like this on Tuesday, I think the Nuggets can just roll them if the refs let them play......

Stern, you gutless drunk let them play.....

Yeah because you know the Nuggets have such a history of being a good team. Lakers are going to beat the Nuggets just prepare yourself for it.

Blaming the refs is weak. Invariably the bias you have for one team effects how you see the officiating.

GO LAKERS.

Nuggets thinking because the had an easier series that means they are playing better is a misnomer. Lakers haven't even peaked yet this playoffs and they have Nuggets number.

Out of last 20 games what is the Nuggets record vs Lakers? You think there isn't a reason for that disparity? The Nuggets really seem to struggle vs the passing of of the Laker big men.

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 02:36 PM
So when is game 1 of the Rockets Nuggest series?

Maybe next yr.

Nuggets so wanted Rockets to win. Now they know they are in trouble.

Inkana7
05-17-2009, 02:39 PM
Comedy is a Lakers fan acting smug and cocky after finally beating a team with no player taller than 6-9 in Game 7.

TDmvp
05-17-2009, 02:45 PM
Comedy is a Lakers fan acting smug and cocky after finally beating a team with no player taller than 6-9 in Game 7.

LOL yea I know ...

If you play with heart you can stay with / beat the Lakers ... They are heartless. Ask K.G. , and the Truth ...

montrose
05-17-2009, 03:06 PM
Regardless of the Nuggets/Lakers outcome, this has been a very special season for true Nuggets fans like myself who appreciate how far we've come from a Junior Harrington/Vincent Yarborough backcourt.

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 03:11 PM
Comedy is a Lakers fan acting smug and cocky after finally beating a team with no player taller than 6-9 in Game 7.

Not smug at all, Lakers not playing that great. But I just can't get all those Nugget/Laker games I have watched out of my head.

spdirty
05-17-2009, 03:38 PM
Not smug at all, Lakers not playing that great. But I just can't get all those Nugget/Laker games I have watched out of my head.

That mean absolutely ****ing nothing. We've already gone over this many times, although i know you dont want to pay any attention, but anything that happened before this year, the rosters (at least the Nuggets roster) was completely different. And you use that for your assumption the Lakers will win. Its like saying that because they beat us in 5 in 1985 they will beat us in 5 this year. Its stupid.

But hell, even using this years regular season series is stupid. 2 games were played in November, 1 of those when the Nugs had Iverson, the other when Billups basically just got here.

The game the Nugs won I put no stock into, because the Lakers didnt have Bynum, and they were coming off a back to back. Even the game in LA that the Lakers won in April, the Nuggets were coming off a B2B while the Lakers had plenty of rest, and it was Bynums first game back. So the Lakers had a lot more than normal energy.

But, whatever. Im glad we're playing the Lakers because we have avoided having to play the team with a heart.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 03:46 PM
If the Flakers play like this on Tuesday, I think the Nuggets can just roll them if the refs let them play......


ROFL! Ha! ROFL! Ha!

Thuggets fans crack me up.

Your path to the WCF couldn't have been easier, i.e., beating a flailing 7th seed and a 6th seed.

Utah and Houston were much tougher opponents even without Yao for game 4 on.

Who on your team is going to guard Kobe? Dahantay? Ha ha ha! Unlike the Rockets, you don't have two all-world defenders like Battier/Artest.

Last 2 years: Nuggets are 1-10 vs. the Lakers. Lakers are 23-3 at Staples against nuggets all time. Point differential between the 2 teams at Staples was 14 points per game. Couple that w/ the fact that Denver is an average road team (21-20 during regular season) and there's a pretty decent chance that the Lakers go up 2-0.

You might want to wait until your franchise actually accomplishes something before talking this kind of smack.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 03:51 PM
Not smug at all, Lakers not playing that great. But I just can't get all those Nugget/Laker games I have watched out of my head.


History shows that the Lakers are the far dominant team. A 3-1 regular season series win and a 4-0 sweep in last year's post-season back that argument up. (Denver has changed a lot since then, admittedly.)

Denver will not cause the issues that bothered us with the Houston series. Billups is not as quick as Brooks, and our guards will have a much easier time trying to control him. He's the engine that makes that team go. Personally, I like the idea of playing Shannon Brown heavily in this series. Big, athletic, quick, solid defender at the 1 to give Billups a difficult time. Very good matchup. Of course, he's not going to stop him, but ideally, you want to make the series as difficult as hell for him.

Denver's perimeter defenders are also nowhere near the level of those on Houston's team. Kobe had 31 a game on the Denver defense during the span of 4 regular season games. I don't expect his offensive impact to go down the slightest bit. Denver also has an idiot on their team by the name of JR Smith. Let's hope he keeps yapping.

Also can't forget the impact of Gasol. Don't see anyone on that frontline being able to contain him. Especially if Bynum plays the way he did tonight. Although Nene has been playing tremendous for Denver, I don't really see any team left in the post-season that can contain that 2-man inside game. Expect similar numbers to Pau's 22/9/5/3 averages in last season's series.

Denver has improved greatly since training camp, but at the end of the day, I still feel they're an inferior squad to the Lakers in many aspects of the game. We do what we did in games 5 and 7 (which is the big issue with this team) and I really don't see the series exceeding 6 games.

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Bronco X
05-17-2009, 04:06 PM
There is not a more insufferable group of shameless front runners than Laker fans.

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 04:12 PM
ROFL! Ha! ROFL! Ha!

Thuggets fans crack me up.

Your path to the WCF couldn't have been easier, i.e., beating a flailing 7th seed and a 6th seed.

Utah and Houston were much tougher opponents even without Yao for game 4 on.

Who on your team is going to guard Kobe? Dahantay? Ha ha ha! Unlike the Rockets, you don't have two all-world defenders like Battier/Artest.

Last 2 years: Nuggets are 1-10 vs. the Lakers. Lakers are 23-3 at Staples against nuggets all time. Point differential between the 2 teams at Staples was 14 points per game. Couple that w/ the fact that Denver is an average road team (21-20 during regular season) and there's a pretty decent chance that the Lakers go up 2-0.

You might want to wait until your franchise actually accomplishes something before talking this kind of smack.


Lakers, we found something in common, other then jazz, funny outside of politics I bet you and I have a lot in common. Sorry for basically always being on the wrong foot with you, but sometimes you suck. :rofl:

Lakers to me a super talented big team that has been underachieving and just getting by all yr. All us Laker fans know that.

But when Lakers get good play from Bynum and Gasol they are unstoppable. If Kobe catches fire they can make up for those 2 not playing well. If the bench scores it can be a blowout. IMO Lakers will get one of those things at least 4 times in a 7 game series against a team like Nuggets.

Now put them against the Cavs and I think without all of them playing well they would lose a series like they did last yr.

Remember though nugget fans Lakers have tons of eperience, they they don't panic and don't get over confident. Don't expect just because they struggled with Houston that you won't get there A game. You better be ready.

Go Broncos
Go Lakers

Hows that for a fracked up world Denver BROOO.......errrr I mean Nugget fans!!!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 04:12 PM
There is not a more insufferable group of shameless front runners than Laker fans.

Except for Thuggets "fans" who invariably jump on the Cavs or Celtics bandwagon once their team makes yet another exit from the post season.

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 04:13 PM
There is not a more insufferable group of shameless front runners than Laker fans.

nothing worst then myopic nuggy fans who think somehow they even matter. Broncos are all that matters in Denver what's wrong with you people?

The Nuggets? Cmon, DEY AIN'T GONNA BEAT MY LAKE SHOW!!!!!!


Lakers in 6 games, maybe 5.

Inkana7
05-17-2009, 04:16 PM
At this point in the Postseason the Nuggets are playing FAR better basketball than the Lakers. And the Nuggs are playing far better than they played in the regular season. Just an observation. I don't particularly like either team.

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 04:17 PM
Except for Thuggets "fans" who invariably jump on the Cavs or Celtics bandwagon once their team makes yet another exit from the post season.

The East will be a lot tougher to beat then the Nuggies.,

Paladin
05-17-2009, 04:48 PM
Yeah because you know the Nuggets have such a history of being a good team. Lakers are going to beat the Nuggets just prepare yourself for it.

Blaming the refs is weak. Invariably the bias you have for one team effects how you see the officiating.

GO LAKERS.

Nuggets thinking because the had an easier series that means they are playing better is a misnomer. Lakers haven't even peaked yet this playoffs and they have Nuggets number.

Out of last 20 games what is the Nuggets record vs Lakers? You think there isn't a reason for that disparity? The Nuggets really seem to struggle vs the passing of of the Laker big men.

Man, you are scared spitless......

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 04:49 PM
nothing worst then myopic nuggy fans who think somehow they even matter.

To say nothing of the fact that he has no answer to any of the points that were just made and instead goes straight for the personal attack.

Typical.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 04:50 PM
At this point in the Postseason the Nuggets are playing FAR better basketball than the Lakers.

Against two really crappy, lower seeded teams, you neglect to mention.

Paladin
05-17-2009, 04:58 PM
Jezus. You guys are for real?

Think a bit about Melo, Chauny, Martin, Nene, Tay, JR, Birdman, AC and a couple more good players.

I think this will be a good series. The Nuggets are playing the better Bball than the Flakers, They play D and that fuels the O. Melo is money, and I think Nene will take out Bynum easy. Gasol is a big nothing, and Martin will take him. Kobe doesn't mean much by himself. I can see Tay just giving him fits....


Talk is cheap Flaker fans.

24champ
05-17-2009, 05:00 PM
Mega props to the Rockets for pushing this series to 7, they will be a very tough team next year if Tracy and Yao can get and stay healthy. That's what they were missing in this game 7, was a superstar to take off the pressure for the team.

I'm only going if the Lakers win....


and I'm going.;D



Looks like I'm going to game 4 of the WCF...will be bringing my broom to Pepsi!!!!Hilarious!

Nah, I like the Lakers in 5 or 6, this will be a very fun series.


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24champ
05-17-2009, 05:08 PM
At this point in the Postseason the Nuggets are playing FAR better basketball than the Lakers. And the Nuggs are playing far better than they played in the regular season. Just an observation. I don't particularly like either team.

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"I did mention there were three of them, didn't I? You don't even know what they look like."

:rofl:

spdirty
05-17-2009, 05:16 PM
And the puffed out chests are back out in full force. LOL. Love it. Anyway, took you guys long enough to get here. Go nugs!

spdirty
05-17-2009, 05:36 PM
ROFL! Ha! ROFL! Ha!

Thuggets fans crack me up.

Not as much as Flaker fans crack me up. BTW, where were you during the Houston series?

Your path to the WCF couldn't have been easier, i.e., beating a flailing 7th seed and a 6th seed.

Utah and Houston were much tougher opponents even without Yao for game 4 on.

Against a beat up and playing crappy 8 seed and a 5 seed without their 2 best players? Give me a break, the competition was at best even. At best I'll give you New Orleans=Utah, but unlike Houston, Dallas had all their best players just dismantled San Antonio and was 17-1 on their home court before playing us. Please at least we took care of business, blowing out our opponents in all but 1 win, oh yeah, and even in our 2 losses, they were both last minute games rather than not showing up at all and getting our asses handed to us.

And how many times have the Flakers given up 20 point leads? Your team is mentally weak, even with the game 7 win, because your team plays with a regular season mentality 40% of the time.


Who on your team is going to guard Kobe? Dahantay? Ha ha ha! Unlike the Rockets, you don't have two all-world defenders like Battier/Artest.

Carter, Dahntay, Martin, Melo, Smith. Lot of switches. Dirk scored a lot on us as well and that was a 5 game series. Just hope Kobe shoots 30 times a game. He can have his 40 so long as we get the win.


Last 2 years: Nuggets are 1-10 vs. the Lakers. Lakers are 23-3 at Staples against nuggets all time. Point differential between the 2 teams at Staples was 14 points per game. Couple that w/ the fact that Denver is an average road team (21-20 during regular season) and there's a pretty decent chance that the Lakers go up 2-0.

The history (even recent) of these teams playing means absolutely nothing because of reasons stated above.



You might want to wait until your franchise actually accomplishes something before talking this kind of smack.

You guys have exactly 1 more regular season win than us the last 5 years and exactly no NBA championships in that timespan. So you might also want to wait till your team does something before talking shlt as well. Unless you want to sit there and live in the past.

Inkana7
05-17-2009, 05:37 PM
Against two really crappy, lower seeded teams, you neglect to mention.

.....

:spit:

Did you just watch the Rockets series? Best two players, out. No player over 6-9. And they took it to 7. They should have been swept after Yao went down.

6-6 Chucky ****ing Hayes outplayed 7-0 Pau Gasol. Not to mention Andrew "The Invisible Man" Bynum.

Inkana7
05-17-2009, 05:39 PM
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"I did mention there were three of them, didn't I? You don't even know what they look like."

:rofl:

Woe is me, LeBron wasn't drafted by a team with a Hall of Fame Center and Coach. Oh, but he's only 24. :~ohyah!:

Anyways, do you have any sort of logical reply to what I said or are you content with puppets?

24champ
05-17-2009, 05:54 PM
Not as much as Flaker fans crack me up. BTW, where were you during the Houston series?



Against a beat up and playing crappy 8 seed and a 5 seed without their 2 best players? Give me a break, the competition was at best even. At best I'll give you New Orleans=Utah, but unlike Houston, Dallas had all their best players just dismantled San Antonio and was 17-1 on their home court before playing us. Please at least we took care of business, blowing out our opponents in all but 1 win, oh yeah, and even in our 2 losses, they were both last minute games rather than not showing up at all and getting our asses handed to us.

And how many times have the Flakers given up 20 point leads? Your team is mentally weak, even with the game 7 win, because your team plays with a regular season mentality 40% of the time.




Carter, Dahntay, Martin, Melo, Smith. Lot of switches. Dirk scored a lot on us as well and that was a 5 game series. Just hope Kobe shoots 30 times a game. He can have his 40 so long as we get the win.




The history (even recent) of these teams playing means absolutely nothing because of reasons stated above.





You guys have exactly 1 more regular season win than us the last 5 years and exactly no NBA championships in that timespan. So you might also want to wait till your team does something before talking shlt as well. Unless you want to sit there and live in the past.

I heard all this talk last year before we swept em.:wave:

spdirty
05-17-2009, 06:15 PM
I heard all this talk last year before we swept em.:wave:

We arent an 8 seed, this isnt the first round, and we dont have Iverson anymore. But thats OK, keep living in the past. Or hell, even 1985 for that matter, its just the same. :wave:

24champ
05-17-2009, 06:26 PM
We arent an 8 seed, this isnt the first round, and we dont have Iverson anymore. But thats OK, keep living in the past. Or hell, even 1985 for that matter, its just the same. :wave:

You know what they say...history tends to repeat itself.;)

Punisher
05-17-2009, 06:29 PM
Hey Nugg Fans,Take a good look at the Future
http://www.practicespot.com/images/photos/broom5.jpg

spdirty
05-17-2009, 06:29 PM
You know what they say...history tends to repeat itself.;)

Well, the thing that concerns me is the rust that may have built up from taking care of business like we were suppose to and waiting so long on your sorry asses to get where we are.:~ohyah!:

spdirty
05-17-2009, 06:32 PM
Hey Nugg Fans,Take a good look at the Future
http://www.practicespot.com/images/photos/broom5.jpg

Yeah the Pepsi Center is gonna be in a celebratory mood in Game 4.;)

Punisher
05-17-2009, 06:32 PM
Well, the thing that concerns me is the rust that may have built up from taking care of business like we were suppose to and waiting so long on your sorry asses to get where we are.:~ohyah!:

The only reason we played bad in those games was because of the late night Pre-Championship Parties 8') Go Lakers

Punisher
05-17-2009, 06:34 PM
Yeah the Pepsi Center is gonna be in a celebratory mood in Game 4.;)

Hey thats the Laker Broom not the nuggs Broom

24champ
05-17-2009, 06:34 PM
Hey Nugg Fans,Take a good look at the Future
http://www.practicespot.com/images/photos/broom5.jpg

Ha!

And after that, Nuggets fans can look forward to their next Western Conference finals appearance which will be in the year 2033.

Punisher
05-17-2009, 06:39 PM
Ha!

And after that, Nuggets fans can look forward to their next Western Conference finals appearance which will be in the year 2033.

:rofl: Oh man Go Lakers

cutthemdown
05-17-2009, 06:53 PM
Lakers too big, and they have a better bench, and they have kobe bryant, and they have home field, and they have experience.

Also Bynum moving well this last game look for him to explode on the nuggies.

Boobs McGee
05-17-2009, 07:00 PM
NICE WIN TODAY BOYS!!!

This is gonna be a tough series imo, stickin with lakers in six though. I think they're all gonna be tough exciting games, but we'll see.

GO LAKE SHOW

lex
05-17-2009, 07:30 PM
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"I did mention there were three of them, didn't I? You don't even know what they look like."

:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLJ65x0mbv0&feature=related

Bronco X
05-17-2009, 07:31 PM
Except for Thuggets "fans" who invariably jump on the Cavs or Celtics bandwagon once their team makes yet another exit from the post season.

nothing worst then myopic nuggy fans who think somehow they even matter. Broncos are all that matters in Denver what's wrong with you people?

The Nuggets? Cmon, DEY AIN'T GONNA BEAT MY LAKE SHOW!!!!!!


Lakers in 6 games, maybe 5.

As if on cue, the both of you provide irrefutable evidence to support my assertion. Absolutely Pavlovian.

NFLBRONCO
05-17-2009, 08:17 PM
As much as I would love to see a 7 game series. I think it will be Lakers in 5.

It depends on refs if they call pretty even series this could be a great one. If they favor the bigger market star teams like they usually do this will be a short series.

Imo for Denver to make finals they need to win 2 in LA to have a legit shot of moving on. I would not expect Denver to win every home game.

Denver has been playing the best but, LA is a bad matchup for us.

lex
05-17-2009, 08:22 PM
As much as I would love to see a 7 game series. I think it will be Lakers in 5.

It depends on refs if they call pretty even series this could be a great one. If they favor the bigger market star teams like they usually do this will be a short series.

Imo for Denver to make finals they need to win 2 in LA to have a legit shot of moving on. I would not expect Denver to win every home game.

Yup. Unfortunate but true.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 08:31 PM
As if on cue, the both of you provide irrefutable evidence to support my assertion. Absolutely Pavlovian.

Did you assert something?

I must have missed it.

All I saw was your failure to actually address the points made, opting for personal attacks instead.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 08:34 PM
BTW, where were you during the Houston series?


Out with a herniated disc (lower back.)

Can't sit at the computer for too long.

Hope to be back in circulation for the WCF.

Go Lakers! :~ohyah!:

spdirty
05-17-2009, 08:43 PM
Out with a herniated disc (lower back.)

Can't sit at the computer for too long.

Hope to be back in circulation for the WCF.

Go Lakers! :~ohyah!:

Well I hope you keep a cool head during the WCF. Dont wanna hear about you aggravating or making your back worse by throwing objects at your TV.

spdirty
05-17-2009, 09:49 PM
Damn, nosebleeds for this series are about 100 bucks. Gonna have to go to one. Only question is, game 3, 4, or our series clincher game 6?

SoCalBronco
05-17-2009, 10:14 PM
Out with a herniated disc (lower back.)



I'm sorry to hear that, LABF. I hope you heal up soon.......soon enough to see you guys get your ass kicked by the Nuggets or Cavs. :)

Seriously, though.....I hope your recovery goes smoothly. :thumbs:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm sorry to hear that, LABF. I hope you heal up soon.......soon enough to see you guys get your ass kicked by the Nuggets or Cavs. :)

Seriously, though.....I hope your recovery goes smoothly. :thumbs:

Many thanks, amigo.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-17-2009, 10:43 PM
I think the lack of a layoff for the Lakers (Game 1 is in two days) will serve to keep the Lakers focused on the task at hand and there will be no rust. OTOH, rust will be a factor for the Nuggets who've been sitting at home for the better part of a week).

In many ways, the Nuggets represent a dropoff in competitive rigor for various parts of the Lakers machine.

1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.

2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.

3. Pau Gasol will be matched up with Kenyon Martin...this is a huge advantage for the Lakers, and Pau is both quicker and longer than KMart and a very good low post scorer.

4. Chauncey Billups will be matched up with Derek Fisher. Fish was an extreme liability against the Rockets' Aaron Brooks, because Brooks was fast and quick and able to quickly penetrate off screens to break down the Laker defense. However, Billups is not this type of threat, and Fisher is much better suited to defending a PG of his style of play. Billups still has the advantage here, but not the kind that Brooks enjoyed over Fish. Fish's bigger issue is getting his shot back. In place of Fish, you may see a lot of Shannon Brown.

5. Carmelo Anthony will be matched up against Trevor Ariza. This is a Nugget advantage, but Ariza is an underrated defender and will cause some problems for Melo. Again, moreso than any other small forward he's faced so far.

The Lakers suspect that the Nuggets may try to utilize some of the small ball lineups that Adelman used to throw off the Lakers after Yao got hurt....but the problem for the Nuggets is that the Rockets' small ball lineups used a mix of quickness, hustle, and low post strength to create mismatches that they were able to exploit and open shots they were able to knockdown (only in Houston though). The Nuggets simply don't have that type of personnel. A Nugget small ball lineup would get eaten alive by the Lakers superior size and skill in the post.

I expect the Lakers to sweep the first two at home before suffering a possible defeat in one of the Denver games, they will come home for Game 5 with a chance to close out and I think they will.

footstepsfrom#27
05-17-2009, 11:07 PM
I think the lack of a layoff for the Lakers (Game 1 is in two days) will serve to keep the Lakers focused on the task at hand and there will be no rust. OTOH, rust will be a factor for the Nuggets who've been sitting at home for the better part of a week).

In many ways, the Nuggets represent a dropoff in competitive rigor for various parts of the Lakers machine.

1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.

2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.

3. Pau Gasol will be matched up with Kenyon Martin...this is a huge advantage for the Lakers, and Pau is both quicker and longer than KMart and a very good low post scorer.

4. Chauncey Billups will be matched up with Derek Fisher. Fish was an extreme liability against the Rockets' Aaron Brooks, because Brooks was fast and quick and able to quickly penetrate off screens to break down the Laker defense. However, Billups is not this type of threat, and Fisher is much better suited to defending a PG of his style of play. Billups still has the advantage here, but not the kind that Brooks enjoyed over Fish. Fish's bigger issue is getting his shot back. In place of Fish, you may see a lot of Shannon Brown.

5. Carmelo Anthony will be matched up against Trevor Ariza. This is a Nugget advantage, but Ariza is an underrated defender and will cause some problems for Melo. Again, moreso than any other small forward he's faced so far.

The Lakers suspect that the Nuggets may try to utilize some of the small ball lineups that Adelman used to throw off the Lakers after Yao got hurt....but the problem for the Nuggets is that the Rockets' small ball lineups used a mix of quickness, hustle, and low post strength to create mismatches that they were able to exploit and open shots they were able to knockdown (only in Houston though). The Nuggets simply don't have that type of personnel. A Nugget small ball lineup would get eaten alive by the Lakers superior size and skill in the post.

I expect the Lakers to sweep the first two at home before suffering a possible defeat in one of the Denver games, they will come home for Game 5 with a chance to close out and I think they will.
What's up LABF?

24champ
05-17-2009, 11:08 PM
Damn, nosebleeds for this series are about 100 bucks. Gonna have to go to one. Only question is, game 3, 4, or our series clincher game 6?

I paid 45 for mine since ticketmaster put them on sale on friday, and the section I am sitting in, tickets are being had for 150 apiece.

I expect a lot of Laker fans @ Pepsi since it is a holiday weekend and secondly it is cheaper to fly out to Denver for a weekend and see a laker game than it is to go see a game at Staples.

rovolution
05-17-2009, 11:16 PM
I think the lack of a layoff for the Lakers (Game 1 is in two days) will serve to keep the Lakers focused on the task at hand and there will be no rust. OTOH, rust will be a factor for the Nuggets who've been sitting at home for the better part of a week).

In many ways, the Nuggets represent a dropoff in competitive rigor for various parts of the Lakers machine.

1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.

2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.

3. Pau Gasol will be matched up with Kenyon Martin...this is a huge advantage for the Lakers, and Pau is both quicker and longer than KMart and a very good low post scorer.

4. Chauncey Billups will be matched up with Derek Fisher. Fish was an extreme liability against the Rockets' Aaron Brooks, because Brooks was fast and quick and able to quickly penetrate off screens to break down the Laker defense. However, Billups is not this type of threat, and Fisher is much better suited to defending a PG of his style of play. Billups still has the advantage here, but not the kind that Brooks enjoyed over Fish. Fish's bigger issue is getting his shot back. In place of Fish, you may see a lot of Shannon Brown.

5. Carmelo Anthony will be matched up against Trevor Ariza. This is a Nugget advantage, but Ariza is an underrated defender and will cause some problems for Melo. Again, moreso than any other small forward he's faced so far.

The Lakers suspect that the Nuggets may try to utilize some of the small ball lineups that Adelman used to throw off the Lakers after Yao got hurt....but the problem for the Nuggets is that the Rockets' small ball lineups used a mix of quickness, hustle, and low post strength to create mismatches that they were able to exploit and open shots they were able to knockdown (only in Houston though). The Nuggets simply don't have that type of personnel. A Nugget small ball lineup would get eaten alive by the Lakers superior size and skill in the post.

I expect the Lakers to sweep the first two at home before suffering a possible defeat in one of the Denver games, they will come home for Game 5 with a chance to close out and I think they will.


someone forgot to account for the best defender off the bench in the league:

http://dailydenversports.com/files/2009/04/chris-andersen-nuggets.jpg



the laker fans are getting nervous! i love it!

24champ
05-17-2009, 11:23 PM
1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.


Yep.

Going from Battier to Dhantay Jones/JR Smith as a defender is like going from Christian Bale to George Clooney for Batman.

BroncoBuff
05-18-2009, 12:10 AM
Out with a herniated disc (lower back.)

Can't sit at the computer for too long.

Hope to be back in circulation for the WCF.

Go Lakers! :~ohyah!:

Now would be an especially good time to have you in this thread LA ... Nuggets/Lakers could get real fun. We need you ;D

BroncoBuff
05-18-2009, 12:56 AM
I think the lack of a layoff for the Lakers (Game 1 is in two days) will serve to keep the Lakers focused on the task at hand and there will be no rust. OTOH, rust will be a factor for the Nuggets who've been sitting at home for the better part of a week).
On the other hand?

That's the same hand!!

"Good for Lakers ... but on the other hand ... Bad for Nuggets." :~ohyah!:


In many ways, the Nuggets represent a dropoff in competitive rigor for various parts of the Lakers machine.
Oh sure, definitely. The Denver Nuggets are but a shadow of the Houston Rockets. It's not like Denver has mowed down and utterly destroyed two teams thusfar, setting an all-time record for average margin of victory, and allowing each opponent just one win - both on their turf - and both by a measley two points.

Yep, it's all downhill now for the Lakers after going 7 games against the powerful, Yao-less Rockets.


(that was sarcasm ;D)


1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.
Dahntay Jones is a top-notch defender, and you'll remember K-Mart had some success guarding Kobe last year. Kobe did go off in the last game - in spectacular fashion - but K-Mart did have some success against him. But I agree with you, we'll rotate Dahntay and J.R. this time on Kobe.

The good news for you is, when Kobe takes 25 shots or less, the Lakers are I think 19-3 this year. Counterintuitive I know, but numbers don't lie.


2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.
What Drew Bynum are you watching? He looked downy soft until Game 7 ... he sometimes seems to have no spine (something I'll bet you envy right about now :( ).


3. Pau Gasol will be matched up with Kenyon Martin...this is a huge advantage for the Lakers, and Pau is both quicker and longer than KMart and a very good low post scorer.
Pau is unreall and amazing down low, no doubt ... but he is a guy who can be rattled. And if you've watched the Nuggets, that's a front court that dishes out some serious rattling ... there were technical fouls called all over the place against both the Hornets and Mavericks frontcourt players. They took the Hornets and Mavs frontcourts completely out of their games ... got in their heads. And Chris Andersen could potentially take Pau outta his game. I am concerned Birdman is coming off a Dallas series where he did next to nothing, but I think he'll probably bounce back some.


4. Chauncey Billups will be matched up with Derek Fisher. Fish was an extreme liability against the Rockets' Aaron Brooks, because Brooks was fast and quick and able to quickly penetrate off screens to break down the Laker defense. However, Billups is not this type of threat, and Fisher is much better suited to defending a PG of his style of play. Billups still has the advantage here, but not the kind that Brooks enjoyed over Fish. Fish's bigger issue is getting his shot back. In place of Fish, you may see a lot of Shannon Brown.
I don't know what Billups you're watching, but the one I'm watching is EVERY kind of threat. Assists, 3-pointers, movement, steals, and takes care of the ball. Maybe he's not the screen-buster that Brooks was, but, out of the frying pan ....


5. Carmelo Anthony will be matched up against Trevor Ariza. This is a Nugget advantage, but Ariza is an underrated defender and will cause some problems for Melo. Again, moreso than any other small forward he's faced so far.
There's a reason guys are rated lowly, usually because they deserve it. ... and no Lakers player is underrated.


The Lakers suspect that the Nuggets may try to utilize some of the small ball lineups that Adelman used to throw off the Lakers after Yao got hurt....but the problem for the Nuggets is that the Rockets' small ball lineups used a mix of quickness, hustle, and low post strength to create mismatches that they were able to exploit and open shots they were able to knockdown (only in Houston though). The Nuggets simply don't have that type of personnel. A Nugget small ball lineup would get eaten alive by the Lakers superior size and skill in the post.
Again, it doesn't seem like you've watched the Nuggets much. Maybe it's because yuo've been so busy with these 7-game series of yours, but the Nuggets haven't been "eaten alive" by anything, much less a small lineup.

The Nuggets have been overwhelming - front court and back - on both sides of the floor. Small lineups aren't gonna work against them, their big guys are too athletic, too disruptive.

But good luck with that.


I expect the Lakers to sweep the first two at home before suffering a possible defeat in one of the Denver games, they will come home for Game 5 with a chance to close out and I think they will.
4-1 victory, eh? Again, you haven't watched the Nuggets obviously :oyvey:

What an anachronistic (not to mention unrealistic) notion that these Lakers will easily win series 4-1. The Nuggets are clearly superior to the Rockets.

Put simply LABF, these are not your father's Lakers.


PREDICTION:
Nuggets have to steal one at Staples, I'm not sure I see that happening.

If the Nuggest win, it'll be in 6.

If the Lakers win, it'll be in 7.

That's all you're getting from me.

brother love
05-18-2009, 02:02 AM
There is no way way that the Nuggets will beat the Lakers 4 out of 7 games.
The Lakers have absolutely owned the Nuggets for like 25 years now!

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 04:24 AM
I think the lack of a layoff for the Lakers (Game 1 is in two days) will serve to keep the Lakers focused on the task at hand and there will be no rust. OTOH, rust will be a factor for the Nuggets who've been sitting at home for the better part of a week).

In many ways, the Nuggets represent a dropoff in competitive rigor for various parts of the Lakers machine.

1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.

2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.

3. Pau Gasol will be matched up with Kenyon Martin...this is a huge advantage for the Lakers, and Pau is both quicker and longer than KMart and a very good low post scorer.

4. Chauncey Billups will be matched up with Derek Fisher. Fish was an extreme liability against the Rockets' Aaron Brooks, because Brooks was fast and quick and able to quickly penetrate off screens to break down the Laker defense. However, Billups is not this type of threat, and Fisher is much better suited to defending a PG of his style of play. Billups still has the advantage here, but not the kind that Brooks enjoyed over Fish. Fish's bigger issue is getting his shot back. In place of Fish, you may see a lot of Shannon Brown.

5. Carmelo Anthony will be matched up against Trevor Ariza. This is a Nugget advantage, but Ariza is an underrated defender and will cause some problems for Melo. Again, moreso than any other small forward he's faced so far.

The Lakers suspect that the Nuggets may try to utilize some of the small ball lineups that Adelman used to throw off the Lakers after Yao got hurt....but the problem for the Nuggets is that the Rockets' small ball lineups used a mix of quickness, hustle, and low post strength to create mismatches that they were able to exploit and open shots they were able to knockdown (only in Houston though). The Nuggets simply don't have that type of personnel. A Nugget small ball lineup would get eaten alive by the Lakers superior size and skill in the post.

I expect the Lakers to sweep the first two at home before suffering a possible defeat in one of the Denver games, they will come home for Game 5 with a chance to close out and I think they will.

Lakers will also use Lebron to come in off the bench and play Melo. At least I think they will.

BroncoBuff
05-18-2009, 05:04 AM
The matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.
Not the usual "Slam-dunk advantage"?! WTF?! And just exactly when has Drew "dominated" Nene?

They have VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL stats, bothe for the season, and against each other this year. And Nene's performance is considerably better on 3+ days rest.

Dude I love you, but you're head's seriously not clear on your evaluations here :nono:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2486/66859290.jpg


Look ... they both have pleasant smiles too.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 06:10 AM
I wish Karl would grow a set and make Kleiza the 12th man while playing Balkman and putting him on Kobe for significant minutes. Won't happen though.

Man-Goblin
05-18-2009, 06:27 AM
Not the usual "Slam-dunk advantage"?! WTF?! And just exactly when has Drew "dominated" Nene?

They have VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL stats, bothe for the season, and against each other this year. And Nene's performance is considerably better on 3+ days rest.

Dude I love you, but you're head's seriously not clear on your evaluations here :nono:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2486/66859290.jpg


Look ... they both have pleasant smiles too.

You're wasting your time. Bynum is the next Wilt Chamberlain and the sooner you accept that fact the better off you will be. He had a 42 point game once!

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-18-2009, 06:41 AM
someone forgot to account for the best defender off the bench in the league:

http://dailydenversports.com/files/2009/04/chris-andersen-nuggets.jpg



the laker fans are getting nervous! i love it!

You're kidding, right? The guy brings great energy and all, but c'mon now - he hacks and gambles too much to be considered one of the best defenders in the league. He'll be in foul trouble this series, much like he was in the last games against Dallas.

ohiobronco2
05-18-2009, 07:28 AM
Not the usual "Slam-dunk advantage"?! WTF?! And just exactly when has Drew "dominated" Nene?

They have VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL stats, bothe for the season, and against each other this year. And Nene's performance is considerably better on 3+ days rest.

Dude I love you, but you're head's seriously not clear on your evaluations here :nono:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2486/66859290.jpg


Look ... they both have pleasant smiles too.

Sorry, I disagree. Bynum has a nicer smile. That will be the deciding factor in a 4 game sweep.

lex
05-18-2009, 08:22 AM
LOL at the Laker fans calling anyone bandwagon/frontrunners.

azbroncfan
05-18-2009, 09:29 AM
I think the lack of a layoff for the Lakers (Game 1 is in two days) will serve to keep the Lakers focused on the task at hand and there will be no rust. OTOH, rust will be a factor for the Nuggets who've been sitting at home for the better part of a week).

In many ways, the Nuggets represent a dropoff in competitive rigor for various parts of the Lakers machine.

1. They don't have single perimeter defender of the caliber of either Artest or Battier. So who's going to guard Kobe? Answer: Dahntay Jones/Anthony Carter/JR Smith. Kobe always does well against the Nuggets for this reason, and I don't see it changing with no real perimeter defender to try to slow him down.

2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.

3. Pau Gasol will be matched up with Kenyon Martin...this is a huge advantage for the Lakers, and Pau is both quicker and longer than KMart and a very good low post scorer.

4. Chauncey Billups will be matched up with Derek Fisher. Fish was an extreme liability against the Rockets' Aaron Brooks, because Brooks was fast and quick and able to quickly penetrate off screens to break down the Laker defense. However, Billups is not this type of threat, and Fisher is much better suited to defending a PG of his style of play. Billups still has the advantage here, but not the kind that Brooks enjoyed over Fish. Fish's bigger issue is getting his shot back. In place of Fish, you may see a lot of Shannon Brown.

5. Carmelo Anthony will be matched up against Trevor Ariza. This is a Nugget advantage, but Ariza is an underrated defender and will cause some problems for Melo. Again, moreso than any other small forward he's faced so far.

The Lakers suspect that the Nuggets may try to utilize some of the small ball lineups that Adelman used to throw off the Lakers after Yao got hurt....but the problem for the Nuggets is that the Rockets' small ball lineups used a mix of quickness, hustle, and low post strength to create mismatches that they were able to exploit and open shots they were able to knockdown (only in Houston though). The Nuggets simply don't have that type of personnel. A Nugget small ball lineup would get eaten alive by the Lakers superior size and skill in the post.

I expect the Lakers to sweep the first two at home before suffering a possible defeat in one of the Denver games, they will come home for Game 5 with a chance to close out and I think they will.

Go figure you quit posting when the Lakers were in a dogfight with Houston and now magically appear once the lakers finished them off in 7 games. These Laker fans have a lot of past Angry Llama characteristics.

SureShot
05-18-2009, 09:56 AM
LOL at the Laker fans calling anyone bandwagon/frontrunners.

Didn't you know bandwagons are built in California? Look how many are Broncos fans.

Bronco X
05-18-2009, 10:15 AM
There are probably some reasonably thoughtful basketball fans who are also true blue Laker fans but don't look for them here. The Lakers have been a great organization no doubt but regrettably that tends to breed the kind of grunting chest thrusting front runners populating this thread. They carry themselves a sense of entitement that would embarrass post 9-11 Bush Cheney Republicans.

24champ
05-18-2009, 10:26 AM
Go figure you quit posting when the Lakers were in a dogfight with Houston and now magically appear once the lakers finished them off in 7 games. These Laker fans have a lot of past Angry Llama characteristics.

Go back and read...he had a herniated disc moron.ROFL!

The Big E
05-18-2009, 10:48 AM
"PREDICTION:
Nuggets have to steal one at Staples, I'm not sure I see that happening.

If the Nuggest win, it'll be in 6.

If the Lakers win, it'll be in 7.

That's all you're getting from me.[/QUOTE]"

Edit: (sorry, BB, I messed up your quote)

Agreed. I can't see this going less than 6.

I love how some here are snickering because "Lakers fans are nervous". Is that some sort of accomplishment? Every Lakers fan I know has had some level of nervousness every round, and why would the WCF be any diffferent? It should be nerve-wracking for both sides.

I grew up a Laker-hater, but after living here for so long I've grown to like them. In some ways, however, I hate this current team because of the way they sometimes think they will win by just showing up. Boy, I really feel sorry for them, having to focus and exert themselves for 2 1/2 or 3 hours every other day. I admit that while I want the Lakers to win, if they come out half-assed, I wouldn't mind seeing the Nuggets beat the hell out them.

easymobee
05-18-2009, 11:01 AM
Andrew Bynum = Sam Bowie with a self confidence problem

slyinky
05-18-2009, 11:16 AM
Agreed. I can't see this going less than 6.

I love how some here are snickering because "Lakers fans are nervous". Is that some sort of accomplishment? Every Lakers fan I know has had some level of nervousness every round, and why would the WCF be any diffferent? It should be nerve-wracking for both sides.

I grew up a Laker-hater, but after living here for so long I've grown to like them. In some ways, however, I hate this current team because of the way they sometimes think they will win by just showing up. Boy, I really feel sorry for them, having to focus and exert themselves for 2 1/2 or 3 hours every other day. I admit that while I want the Lakers to win, if they come out half-assed, I wouldn't mind seeing the Nuggets beat the hell out them.
I, too, grew up a Laker-hater, but after living here for 6 years (about a ten minute drive form Staples) I've grown to hate them even more.

Los Broncos
05-18-2009, 11:28 AM
I also grew up a big Laker fan as a kid, but when show time left I just didn't care anymore.

azbroncfan
05-18-2009, 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by LABF
2. Down low, the matchup will be between Nene and Andrew Bynum...a matchup that Drew has dominated on both ends at times...but with Drew's health still a bit of a question mark, it's not the slam-dunk advantage it could be. Nene will score some points, but Drew has played extremely well at home, and will be the toughest matchup Nene has faced to date.

He has been so dominant that he scored 42 pts in 7 games against the Rockets and 67 total points in 12 total games. He is the most dominant 6 pt 4 rebound per game player to ever play the game. Advantage Lakers. LOL

Inkana7
05-18-2009, 11:34 AM
I've never seen a player take over a game from the Bench like Bynum has this postseason.

DHallblows
05-18-2009, 11:35 AM
I wish Karl would grow a set and make Kleiza the 12th man while playing Balkman and putting him on Kobe for significant minutes. Won't happen though.

What # man is George playing Linas currently?

Man-Goblin
05-18-2009, 12:07 PM
What # man is George playing Linas currently?

He's only in the rotation unless there are foul or injury problems, or if it's a blowout. It really shocked me when Karl gave Kleiza Birdman's minutes when he was out with the stomach flu. The result was Kleiza on Nowitzki quite a bit, which, of course, made me want to vomit.

I would hope Balkman would get some minutes for defensive/hustle purposes in this series, but I doubt it.

24champ
05-18-2009, 12:17 PM
He has been so dominant that he scored 42 pts in 7 games against the Rockets and 67 total points in 12 total games. He is the most dominant 6 pt 4 rebound per game player to ever play the game. Advantage Lakers. LOL

It is advantage Lakers, Nuggets only win against the Lakers this year was when Bynum was out.

ohiobronco2
05-18-2009, 12:21 PM
I, too, grew up a Laker-hater, but after living here for 6 years (about a ten minute drive form Staples) I've grown to hate them even more.

LOL Hilarious! ROFL!

I tend not to hate organizations, but fans. My lone exception is the Patriots, where I hate both. Laker fans are not unlike fans that belong to other successful franchises, they become overconfident and arrogant. At times, they are unbearable.

ohiobronco2
05-18-2009, 12:22 PM
I've never seen a player take over a game from the Bench like Bynum has this postseason.

:~ohyah!:

24champ
05-18-2009, 12:24 PM
At home, the Nuggets have won 16 in a row (including six in the playoffs) since losing to Houston on March 9, and 19-of-20 (including a 90-79 victory over the Lakers) during a 78-day span.

In the 10-year history of the Staples Center, the Nuggets haven't been so good in L.A.

They have a 2-17 record in the regular season and are 0-2 in the postseason against the Lakers at the office supply store arena.

But that's not quite all. The Nuggets also have to play in downtown Los Angeles against the Clippers and have won only 7-of-19 regular-season games and 0-of-3 playoff games.

The Nuggets are 9-41 there overall. They have been Staples- gunned.

http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_12392627

What a sad history when the ****ing Clippers own the Nuggets. This is sadder than the KC Chiefs history in the NFL.LOL

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 01:27 PM
Mark it down....Lakers lose in 5 like they are playing the Pistons.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Yep.

Going from Battier to Dhantay Jones/JR Smith as a defender is like going from Christian Bale to George Clooney for Batman.

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DHallblows
05-18-2009, 02:22 PM
He's only in the rotation unless there are foul or injury problems, or if it's a blowout. It really shocked me when Karl gave Kleiza Birdman's minutes when he was out with the stomach flu. The result was Kleiza on Nowitzki quite a bit, which, of course, made me want to vomit.

I would hope Balkman would get some minutes for defensive/hustle purposes in this series, but I doubt it.

That's what I thought. I just couldn't tell if he wanted Kleiza getting more time. (Which as you pointed out would be awful) I have no idea how he got so bad this year. He never was amazing, but I'd rather see Kenyon taking a 3 over him right now...
Not against Renaldo playing more (at all) but yeah he hasn't been getting any time lately

slyinky
05-18-2009, 02:49 PM
That's what I thought. I just couldn't tell if he wanted Kleiza getting more time. (Which as you pointed out would be awful) I have no idea how he got so bad this year. He never was amazing, but I'd rather see Kenyon taking a 3 over him right now...
Not against Renaldo playing more (at all) but yeah he hasn't been getting any time lately
I think Kleiza's regression this year is largely due to his contract. Kroenke was offering a big contract extension before pulling it from the table around the time of the Billups trade. Linas will be a restricted free agent this off season.

bfoflcommish
05-18-2009, 02:55 PM
I think Kleiza's regression this year is largely due to his contract. Kroenke was offering a big contract extension before pulling it from the table around the time of the Billups trade. Linas will be a restricted free agent this off season.


no it's largely due to him not doing **** on the court except standing behind 3 point line and then shooting when he touches the ball. he brings no defense, no ball movement, nothing else except for the 3 ball when he is on, or tons of misses when he is off.

Inkana7
05-18-2009, 03:49 PM
It is advantage Lakers, Nuggets only win against the Lakers this year was when Bynum was out.

Good news for the Nuggets, because so far Bynum might as well have not been playing so far these playoffs.

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 04:40 PM
Mark it down....Lakers lose in 5 like they are playing the Pistons.

This would worry me if you were ever right.

24champ
05-18-2009, 04:40 PM
The NBA and World Wrestling Entertainment are grappling over a scheduling conflict.

The WWE announced on Monday that its May 25 show set for the Pepsi Center in Denver is in jeopardy of being canceled because the Denver Nuggets have a playoff game scheduled for the same night.

While the WWE anticipates a sold-out arena and planned to broadcast internationally, the Nuggets will be facing the Los Angeles Lakers in Game 4 of the Western Conference finals. The wrestling federation says that they have had the date reserved since Aug. 15, 2008.

"Even though the Denver Nuggets had a strong team this year and were projected to make the playoffs, obviously Nuggets and Pepsi Center owner Stan Kroenke did not have enough faith in his own team to hold the May 25th date for a potential playoff game," WWE chairman Vince McMahon said in a statement.

Pepsi Center officials told the ABC television affiliate in Denver that the Nuggets game will be played as scheduled and that they are working with the WWE to reschedule or move their event.


zing!ROFL!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4176082

oubronco
05-18-2009, 04:41 PM
Mark it down....Lakers lose in 5 like they are playing the Pistons.

:spit: get real

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 04:41 PM
I don't think Nuggets have the defensive players that Houston did. Points will be easier to come by. There isn't a player on the team that can handle Kobe Bryant. In this series Kobe probably goes off. We are talking 30 points a game or more.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 04:41 PM
no it's largely due to him not doing **** on the court except standing behind 3 point line and then shooting when he touches the ball. he brings no defense, no ball movement, nothing else except for the 3 ball when he is on, or tons of misses when he is off.
I agree that he hasn't done **** this year but what you stated doesn't explain why he has sucked it up, especially considering he was a much more productive player last year.

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 04:43 PM
Good news for the Nuggets, because so far Bynum might as well have not been playing so far these playoffs.

Who cares he's still too big for Nuggets. If Bynum and Gasol play decent, and Kobe plays well, Nuggets lose and lose bad.

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 04:46 PM
LOL at the Laker fans calling anyone bandwagon/frontrunners.

Why? Lakers fans been into the team since, well, forever. Lakers always get supported there is no bandwagon. Now we may be chronic frontrunners because team is always sooo good but whatever.

The only bandwaggoning going on is Nugget fans with shiny new hats and shirts.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 04:50 PM
zing!ROFL!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4176082

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24champ
05-18-2009, 04:51 PM
I don't think Nuggets have the defensive players that Houston did. Points will be easier to come by. There isn't a player on the team that can handle Kobe Bryant. In this series Kobe probably goes off. We are talking 30 points a game or more.

You watch, all the Thugget fans are going to cry about refereeing. Some already are before a game has even been played. In four games the Lakers have gotten to the line an astounding 145 times against the Nuggets. That's one of the reasons Lakers will win, they will take the Nuggets out early and quickly.

Inkana7
05-18-2009, 05:05 PM
Who cares he's still too big for Nuggets. If Bynum and Gasol play decent, and Kobe plays well, Nuggets lose and lose bad.

Aaron Gray is 7'0 too. And the Lakers just played a series where they were "too big" for the other team.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 05:17 PM
no it's largely due to him not doing **** on the court except standing behind 3 point line and then shooting when he touches the ball. he brings no defense, no ball movement, nothing else except for the 3 ball when he is on, or tons of misses when he is off.

Yeah I don't get it. Kleiza brings the damn team down when his shot isnt magically going down 4 out of every 5 games, and Balkman brings the effort and consistency that you want and need from your team. Just a hustle player who brings it on D and fights his ass off for every rebound. Wish Kleiza would be 10 on the bench and Balkman 9, in case the refs start pulling their bull**** on our bigs. Would love to see him get 10-15 minutes a game. He reminds me of Najera.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 05:19 PM
Broncos fans that are also Lakers fans? That's as disgusting as Nuggets fans also being fans of the Raiders.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 05:21 PM
You watch, all the Thugget fans are going to cry about refereeing. Some already are before a game has even been played. In four games the Lakers have gotten to the line an astounding 145 times against the Nuggets. That's one of the reasons Lakers will win, they will take the Nuggets out early and quickly.

It isn't like there isnt a history of that bull**** going on and we dont have a reason to be fearful of it, considering how badly "the league" wants a Lebron vs Kobe Final.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcS10rSrOhI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlByVWEEXE8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0KJvlSUB-w&feature=related

Inkana7
05-18-2009, 05:22 PM
This thread has turned into pure comedy in 24 hours. You LA fans are great.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 05:24 PM
Broncos fans that are also Lakers fans? That's as disgusting as Nuggets fans also being fans of the Raiders.

See, what happened was they were originally Raider fans till they left. They were desperately looking for a team to jump on to for 3 years and then 1997 happened, so there ya go.

bombay
05-18-2009, 05:29 PM
Broncos fans that are also Lakers fans? That's as disgusting as Nuggets fans also being fans of the Raiders.

Bandwagon boys only on the assrapist train.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 05:37 PM
Kobe in 'action' (at least Orton was drunk):

http://ca.geocities.com/bltc_egg/Kobe-Gay.jpghttp://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u77/gtrutzel/GayKobe2.jpg
http://www.calvinshub.com/wp-content/gallery/kobe/image002.jpghttp://nbcsportsmedia.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040502/040502_spurs_vmed.widec.jpg

24champ
05-18-2009, 05:46 PM
Broncos fans that are also Lakers fans? That's as disgusting as Nuggets fans also being fans of the Raiders.

Sad to see Bronco fans root for an NBA team like the Nuggets, that's more pathetic than the Raidtards and KC Chefs combined. :nono:

spdirty
05-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Sad to see Bronco fans root for an NBA team like the Nuggets, that's more pathetic than the Raidtards and KC Chefs combined. :nono:

Guys like Champ and Big Al and John Elway root for the Nugs too.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 06:01 PM
Sad to see Bronco fans root for an NBA team like the Nuggets, that's more pathetic than the Raidtards and KC Chefs combined. :nono:

Uhh That was sorry. Speaking of sorry.... I live in L.A. and I just don't get it...where in the **** are all the lakes?

24champ
05-18-2009, 06:22 PM
Guys like Champ and Big Al and John Elway root for the Nugs too.

John Elway married a Laker fan. Hmm and carries her purse around...shows what suckers Nugget fans are. :P

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/johnelwaypurse.jpg

lex
05-18-2009, 06:24 PM
Why? Lakers fans been into the team since, well, forever. Lakers always get supported there is no bandwagon. Now we may be chronic frontrunners because team is always sooo good but whatever.
The only bandwaggoning going on is Nugget fans with shiny new hats and shirts.

No, the Lakers fans are the epitome of bandwagon fans.


They didnt do so well in the 93-93 season and the attendance reflects that.
http://www.lakersuniverse.com/seasons/1993_1994_la_standings.htm

http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamatt.htm?tm=lal&lg=n

Thats, what, a 22% decline in attendance from two years before. Bearing in mind that LA has a stifling amount of people (on record and otherwise), they should sell out every game if their fanbase is so much more stalwart than everyone else. The minute they start losing, their attendance starts dropping significantly. Theyre no better than anyone else.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 06:24 PM
John Elway married a Laker fan. Hmm and carries her purse around...shows what suckers Nugget fans are. :P

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/johnelwaypurse.jpg

So now your calling John Elway a sucker...:oyvey:

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 06:26 PM
See, what happened was they were originally Raider fans till they left. They were desperately looking for a team to jump on to for 3 years and then 1997 happened, so there ya go.

except for fans like me that lived in Denver in the 70's and that's why we are fans. To say we aren't real Bronco fans because we like the Lakers is just mean spirited. If anything it's all of you not talking about the Nuggets until they won a series in the playoffs that should be ashamed of bandwagoning.

I can't remember any Nuggies talk.

As far as why I like Lakers goes, it was living in LA when the Boston/Lakers going at it made basketball something people started watching again.

I was like 14 yrs old, Boston took LA in the finals, and I was hooked, been a laker fan ever since. So yeah sort of a bandwagon fan at 14, but after 25 yrs or so and over 100 games attended I think I am a real fan.

The only thing funny is the fact people in Denver care about Nuggets. When I lived there no one cared about them. Of course I was really young so I can't remember all the way.

I am a Bronco fan mostly because my dad was a Bronco fan, it's the only football team I have ever pulled for or cared about. I was a Bronco fan when I first got interested in football, and I will be till I die.

Same with Lakers, they were first team that got me into basketball, and I will be loyal till the end.

It's those things that make up a true fan, not where you live, or why you started. Any of you that have second favorite teams, you are the real losers.

lex
05-18-2009, 06:30 PM
John Elway married a Laker fan. Hmm and carries her purse around...shows what suckers Nugget fans are. :P

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/johnelwaypurse.jpg

Youre obviously more of a Lakers fan than a Broncos fan, which is to say youre not much of a Broncos fan at all. Thats like claiming to be both christian and aetheist.

24champ
05-18-2009, 06:31 PM
So now your calling John Elway a sucker...:oyvey:

Only when it comes to his wife, a Laker fan.

cutthemdown
05-18-2009, 06:31 PM
No, the Lakers fans are the epitome of bandwagon fans.


They didnt do so well in the 93-93 season and the attendance reflects that.
http://www.lakersuniverse.com/seasons/1993_1994_la_standings.htm

http://www.databasebasketball.com/teams/teamatt.htm?tm=lal&lg=n

Thats, what, a 22% decline in attendance from two years before. Bearing in mind that LA has a stifling amount of people (on record and otherwise), they should sell out every game if their fanbase is so much more stalwart than everyone else. The minute they start losing, their attendance starts dropping significantly. Theyre no better than anyone else.

For sure there are bandwagoners, I'm saying I ain't one.

For sure though teams get more popular when the win. Nuggets keep winning the support will grow that's just how it is.

Lakers fans not better then you, it's the team that is better, and has been for a long long long long long team.

If fact its like comparing America to Grenada.

You are right though, LA supports winning period. Thank god the Avalanche and the Broncos finally showed Denver what it means to have a real team. Nuggets, well we will see won't we.

I say Lakers in 5 games with 2 wins complete blowouts 25 points or more.

How do you like them little nuggets?

SureShot
05-18-2009, 06:32 PM
See, what happened was they were originally Raider fans till they left. They were desperately looking for a team to jump on to for 3 years and then 1997 happened, so there ya go.

Seriously how does one become a Bronco fan in Cali? Bandwagon defined.

slyinky
05-18-2009, 06:32 PM
It's those things that make up a true fan, not where you live, or why you started. Any of you that have second favorite teams, you are the real losers.
My second favorite teams are whoever is playing the Lakers and Raiders.

24champ
05-18-2009, 06:36 PM
Youre obviously more of a Lakers fan than a Broncos fan.

Couldn't be more wrong. I show up to Mile High Stadium early in the morning for tailgating and go to every home game for the Broncos. Let me know when you show up to a game next year, if you ever do.:giggle:

broncofan2438
05-18-2009, 06:37 PM
Screw the dam fakers

lex
05-18-2009, 06:46 PM
For sure there are bandwagoners, I'm saying I ain't one.

For sure though teams get more popular when the win. Nuggets keep winning the support will grow that's just how it is.

Lakers fans not better then you, it's the team that is better, and has been for a long long long long long team.

If fact its like comparing America to Grenada.


You are right though, LA supports winning period. Thank god the Avalanche and the Broncos finally showed Denver what it means to have a real team. Nuggets, well we will see won't we.

I say Lakers in 5 games with 2 wins complete blowouts 25 points or more.

How do you like them little nuggets?

1. The post of mine you responded to pertained to the fans, not the teams. And in that regard, Denver has a sell out streak that preceded its first winning season by 3 years...and this was after 10 years of non-winning FB. Also, Denver set the attendance record for major league expansion teams (playing in a FB stadium) by the third week of June of the Rockies' first year. Its comical for a fan of an LA team to call out a fan of a Denver team in any sport. Denver just isnt a basketball city. I dont think the Nuggets are supplanting the Broncos for anyone here. Also, you yourself have already admitted that winning yields more interest in a team, yet you bad mouth people who are doting on tha Nuggets.

2. Im more of a Bulls fan. I wasnt really ever THAT into basketball until Jordan was in the league.

lex
05-18-2009, 06:48 PM
Couldn't be more wrong. I show up to Mile High Stadium early in the morning for tailgating and go to every home game for the Broncos. Let me know when you show up to a game next year, if you ever do.:giggle:

So, youre more of a Broncos fan than a Lakers fan?

24champ
05-18-2009, 06:48 PM
1. The post of mine you responded to pertained to the fans, not the teams. And in that regard, Denver has a sell out streak that preceded its first winning season by 3 years...and this was after 10 years of non-winning FB. Also, Denver set the attendance record for major league expansion teams (playing in a FB stadium) by the third week of June of the Rockies' first year. Its comical for a fan of an LA team to call out a fan of a Denver team in any sport. Denver just isnt a basketball city. I dont think the Nuggets are supplanting the Broncos for anyone here. Also, you yourself have already admitted that winning yields more interest in a team, yet you bad mouth people who are doting on tha Nuggets.

2. Im more of a Bulls fan. I wasnt really ever THAT into basketball until Jordan was in the league.



Lex you going to a Broncos game this upcoming season or even going to Training Camp? Lets see what a Big bronco fan you are buddy!

easymobee
05-18-2009, 06:52 PM
Lakers fans = IP Ban

Maybe they all just started liking the broncos during the SB years.

lex
05-18-2009, 06:53 PM
Lex you going to a Broncos game this upcoming season or even going to Training Camp? Lets see what a Big bronco fan you are buddy!

I'm a Broncos fan.

24champ
05-18-2009, 06:56 PM
I'm a Broncos fan.

If you are, what game are you going to? You going to Training Camp?

lex
05-18-2009, 07:00 PM
If you are, what game are you going to? You going to Training Camp?

I will be following the season attentively.

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:03 PM
I will be following the season attentively.

From where? Where you sitting at the Bronco games?

spdirty
05-18-2009, 07:03 PM
except for fans like me that lived in Denver in the 70's and that's why we are fans. To say we aren't real Bronco fans because we like the Lakers is just mean spirited. If anything it's all of you not talking about the Nuggets until they won a series in the playoffs that should be ashamed of bandwagoning.


I can't remember any Nuggies talk.



Go look back at the season thread from this year, last year, the year before, etc. Read through those and it will prove how full of sh*t you are. Those threads were at least 80% Nuggets talk.




As far as why I like Lakers goes, it was living in LA when the Boston/Lakers going at it made basketball something people started watching again.

I was like 14 yrs old, Boston took LA in the finals, and I was hooked, been a laker fan ever since. So yeah sort of a bandwagon fan at 14, but after 25 yrs or so and over 100 games attended I think I am a real fan.


Oh what a diehard you are.

The only thing funny is the fact people in Denver care about Nuggets. When I lived there no one cared about them. Of course I was really young so I can't remember all the way.


Plenty cared about the Nuggets. But after they let Mutombo go for nothing, and Rauf pulled his anti-americanism bullsh*t I was done with em for quite awhile. Add to that there was basically nothing they had to build the team around for 6 years and all I mostly did was look at the standings and shake my head. When Kroenke bought the team I jumped back on. Because my commitment goes as far as the owners commitment to winning. And Ill stick with the Nugs, Broncos, and Avs so long as the organizations continue to show a commitment. And I'll live through the terrible decisions those organizations make so long as they keep that commitment. But Didnt support the sad sacks that owned the team, from the idiots in the 90's to the douchebag Cherry Creek banker who only bought them to turn a profit, and didnt even know how to get to McNichols. But Kroenke wanted to turn this team into an NBA champ the minute he bought the team, and he proved it. Rockies on the other hand can go to hell till the Monforts either commit or sell. Doesnt mean Ill ever jump to another team, just means I won't support loser organizations with either my time or money.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 07:06 PM
From where? Where you sitting at the Bronco games?

Oh so now you have to shell out to even consider yourself a fan?

lex
05-18-2009, 07:06 PM
From where? Where you sitting at the Bronco games?

I dont know where I will be during what games yet. But Im actually more interested in the team than the party every game day.

lex
05-18-2009, 07:07 PM
Oh so now you have to shell out to even consider yourself a fan?


He's more interested in the tailgaiting than anything. Typical Laker fan.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 07:11 PM
He's more interested in the tailgaiting than anything. Typical Laker fan.

Yeah the types that show up at Laker games midway through the first and leave with 5 minutes go to in the 4th quarter in a tie game to beat traffic. Or the Dodger fans who are also notorious for showing up in the 2nd inning and leaving during the 7th inning stretch no matter what the score is.

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:12 PM
Oh so now you have to shell out to even consider yourself a fan?

I didn't bring up anyone's fandom regarding the Broncos in this thread. If you are going to question mine, then yeah I am going ask where you sit and if you go to training camp. If you don't then I'd kindly ask you to STFU.


To say I'm a crappy Bronco fan because I root for another team in another SPORT is one of the most ****ing stupidest things I ever read on this forum.

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:13 PM
I dont know where I will be during what games yet. But Im actually more interested in the team than the party every game day.

Great then you will show up for Training Camp right?

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 07:17 PM
This would worry me if you were ever right.

Go look at the last time the Lakers played the Pistons and look at my same prediction and realize it came true. You are about to get cutdown.

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:19 PM
Go look at the last time the Lakers played the Pistons and look at my same prediction and realize it came true. You are about to get cutdoww.

Garcia you are a crappy bronco fan because you party before the game dude. - Lex. Ha!

lex
05-18-2009, 07:20 PM
Great then you will show up for Training Camp right?

It doesnt make sense for me to go to training camp this year. I dont see what the point is of you asking. That doesnt mean youre not a frontrunner.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 07:20 PM
I didn't bring up anyone's fandom regarding the Broncos in this thread. If you are going to question mine, then yeah I am going ask where you sit and if you go to training camp. If you don't then I'd kindly ask you to STFU.


To say I'm a crappy Bronco fan because I root for another team in another SPORT is one of the most ****ing stupidest things I ever read on this forum.

Im not the one who started this bull**** bandwagon talk. Guys like you and cut want to question Nuggets fandom, prepare to get called out yourself. And it doesn't look good when someone verbally punches back and you get your panties all in a twist.

And as far as training camp, no, it isnt fun to me to drive 100 miles on a day off to sit on a lawn, get grass stains on my ass, constantly have to yell at my kids to sit down and shut up, and then realize that the guys Im watching are suffering much more than I am.

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 07:22 PM
Here is reference to what I was talking about. Peep the date.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=582191&postcount=51

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 07:23 PM
Garcia you are a crappy bronco fan because you party before the game dude. - Lex. Ha!

I guess that just how I roll.

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 07:24 PM
:spit: get real

I am serious. Mark it down.

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:24 PM
Im not the one who started this bull**** bandwagon talk. Guys like you and cut want to question Nuggets fandom, prepare to get called out yourself. And it doesn't look good when someone verbally punches back and you get your panties all in a twist.

I never brought up anyone's Bronco fandom in this thread, unless it's Broncofan2438...which he rightly deserves criticism for.

lex
05-18-2009, 07:26 PM
Garcia you are a crappy bronco fan because you party before the game dude. - Lex. Ha!

Actually, I said no such thing. It was moreso that you were asserting that youre a good Broncos fan because you tailgate before the game.

spdirty
05-18-2009, 07:27 PM
I never brought up anyone's Bronco fandom in this thread, unless it's Broncofan2438...which he rightly deserves criticism for.

You brought up the nuggets fandom and thats enough. Question anyones fandom and then be shocked and appalled when someone else brings up yours. Thats the game you are playing.

lex
05-18-2009, 07:28 PM
Sad to see Bronco fans root for an NBA team like the Nuggets, that's more pathetic than the Raidtards and KC Chefs combined. :nono:


bump

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:30 PM
Actually, I said no such thing. It was moreso that you were asserting that youre a good Broncos fan because you tailgate before the game.

I was replying to your post which you then questioned my Broncos allegiance because I was a Laker fan.

I go to training camp, go to games, tailgate with other Bronco fans. I was just seeing if you did any of those things, and it appears you don't. If you are going to call me out, I will call you out.

24champ
05-18-2009, 07:32 PM
bump

Grasping for straws Lex?:spit:


Btw what was the post I replied to with that post?

bombay
05-18-2009, 07:33 PM
The assrapist has done nothing without shaq.

lex
05-18-2009, 07:34 PM
John Elway married a Laker fan. Hmm and carries her purse around...shows what suckers Nugget fans are. :P

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/johnelwaypurse.jpg

bump

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 07:40 PM
Actually, I said no such thing. It was moreso that you were asserting that youre a good Broncos fan because you tailgate before the game.

Dude is there every week, every game. Come on now. It's a committment.

lex
05-18-2009, 07:43 PM
I was replying to your post which you then questioned my Broncos allegiance because I was a Laker fan.

I go to training camp, go to games, tailgate with other Bronco fans. I was just seeing if you did any of those things, and it appears you don't. If you are going to call me out, I will call you out.

Your description of your typical gameday experience made it seem like you are more interested in the party. But like I said, Im more interested in the games than tailgaiting. When I wake up on Sunday mornings, Im not thinking about the party. But its nice that you assign meaning to things this way.

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 07:56 PM
Your description of your typical gameday experience made it seem like you are more interested in the party. But like I said, Im more interested in the games than tailgaiting. When I wake up on Sunday mornings, Im not thinking about the party. But its nice that you assign meaning to things this way.



You have to understand the thought process. Get there early. Have a few drinks. See you drink before the game so you don't jam another 50 bucks in drinks on top of your season tickets. There are economic consequences and reprecussions. It's an all day thing.

ohiobronco2
05-18-2009, 08:18 PM
You have to understand the thought process. Get there early. Have a few drinks. See you drink before the game so you don't jam another 50 bucks in drinks on top of your season tickets. There are economic consequences and reprecussions. It's an all day thing.

Perhaps this is why Lex doesn't attend training camp and go to games. The economy prevents him from shelling out the money necessary to travel to these events. To say someone isn't a FAN, because they don't regularly attend such events, is idiotic. I'm not personally calling you out here Garcia. Making a more general point.

PaintballCLE
05-18-2009, 08:21 PM
All i hear is the nuggets are better than the lakers, the lakers are better than the nuggets...................BLAH

does it really matter since the cavs are better than both?

ohiobronco2
05-18-2009, 08:24 PM
All i hear is the nuggets are better than the lakers, the lakers are better than the nuggets...................BLAH

does it really matter since the cavs are better than both?

:rofl: :stirstir:

lex
05-18-2009, 08:29 PM
All i hear is the nuggets are better than the lakers, the lakers are better than the nuggets...................BLAH

does it really matter since the cavs are better than both?

I actually kind of like being privy to smack talk from out west. Its kind of nice seeing something besides the rivalries in the midwest and those featured ad nauseum on ESPN (eg UNC-Duke).

broncofan2438
05-18-2009, 08:56 PM
Screw the Fakers

Garcia Bronco
05-18-2009, 09:41 PM
Perhaps this is why Lex doesn't attend training camp and go to games. The economy prevents him from shelling out the money necessary to travel to these events. To say someone isn't a FAN, because they don't regularly attend such events, is idiotic. I'm not personally calling you out here Garcia. Making a more general point.

I didn't say that, but you have to give due to the people that do. And there is nothing wrong with being proud about it either.

ohiobronco2
05-19-2009, 03:21 AM
I didn't say that, but you have to give due to the people that do. And there is nothing wrong with being proud about it either.

I know that you didn't say that, I was making a point about those who do feel that way. That they are a better fan simply because of geography. I give due to those who attend training camp and bring back those great reports, us Bronco junkies who live hundreds of miles away and don't have the means to attend really appreciate them.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 06:31 AM
Good news for the Nuggets, because so far Bynum might as well have not been playing so far these playoffs.

You must not have watched that game 7 v. the Rockets.

Bynum plays like that against the Thuggets and the latter will be crapping their pants.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-19-2009, 06:37 AM
does it really matter since the cavs are better than both?

Like Denver, Cleveland's path to the conference finals was just as easy (if not easier.) It will be nice to see them actually tested by a good team (Orlando) in the ECF.

All in all, the Cavs are where they are not just because LBJ is a great player but because they play in a weaker conference and have a padded record.

Man-Goblin
05-19-2009, 06:49 AM
You must not have watched that game 7 v. the Rockets.

Bynum plays like that against the Thuggets and the latter will be crapping their pants.

Yes, what will they do if he puts up another 14 and 6. Amazing.

Personally, I'm more worried about what Gasol and Odom will do on the court together, but you go ahead and concentrate on an overated center that will MAYBE get 20 minutes per game.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 07:07 AM
Yes, what will they do if he puts up another 14 and 6. Amazing.

Personally, I'm more worried about what Gasol and Odom will do on the court together, but you go ahead and concentrate on an overated center that will MAYBE get 20 minutes per game.

I'm not a fan of either team, but I totally agree on the general overrating of Bynum. Kid puts up 12/2 and people go nuts.

BroncoBuff
05-19-2009, 07:08 AM
Bynum did play very well in Game 7 ... but that's just it: He plays great when the Lakers are rolling, definitely. But when the chips are down, he seems to disappear (that's what Wilbon said anyway). He seems to me like he's not a tough player really.

Besides, despite LABF's statement that Bynum "dominates Nene on both ends" or some such nonsense, these two are a wash really, if Bynum's head is in it anyway. Their season stats - and stats against each other - are virtually identical.


Andrew Bynum = Sam Bowie with a self confidence problemThere you go :thumbs:

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 07:18 AM
I think we will know pretty quick how this series will go for both teams. The problem with head case teams like the Flakers is if they can get their heads right for a few games you are screwed. But they are mentally weak thus instable and unpredictable.

Rulon Velvet Jones
05-19-2009, 07:35 AM
I think we will know pretty quick how this series will go for both teams. The problem with head case teams like the Flakers is if they can get their heads right for a few games you are screwed. But they are mentally weak thus instable and unpredictable.

Denver's airport sucks.

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 07:39 AM
LOL thats funny when you regularly fly out of that debacle called DFW.

Garcia Bronco
05-19-2009, 07:40 AM
Yeah DIA is rated as one of the best in the country.........................according to the local news. :)

theAPAOps5
05-19-2009, 07:43 AM
I don't know what news you watch but the local guys get bored and come and try to dig up crap about the airport and routinely slam DIA. Then they get owned with facts and go away like the cockroaches they are.

DenverBrit
05-19-2009, 08:13 AM
Oh, great, airport smack! Ha!

SureShot
05-19-2009, 08:16 AM
I like it that the basketball thread has turned to airport smack.