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Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 01:03 PM
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Kaylore
04-14-2009, 02:30 PM
You forgot


Personally responsible for turning the ball over 5 times in the AFC championshiop game.
Really good at throwing interceptions.
"Led" one of the worst offenses in Broncos history in 2006 only to see it improve under a rookie with no experience.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 02:35 PM
You forgot


Personally responsible for turning the ball over 5 times in the AFC championshiop game.
Really good at throwing interceptions.
"Led" one of the worst offenses in Broncos history in 2006 only to see it improve under a rookie with no experience.


the team was on its way to a playoff berth that year w/ plummer until they put cutler in. and if you forgot the year before he had just taken them 13-3... whens the last QB to do that for us? and when he had those bad years w/ interceptions he had no receiving core behind him. they were either injured or were retiring. and the team loved playing for him. he was a good man to rally behind and admit won WAY more games than cutler or n/e one else after elway could even dream of winning. sure cutler had the arm but none of the team wanted to play for him...

SonOfLe-loLang
04-14-2009, 02:38 PM
Nothing about the stache?

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 02:40 PM
Nothing about the stache?

LMAO!!! i like the beard better myself :tearhair:

Mogulseeker
04-14-2009, 02:44 PM
The stache was AWESOME!

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 02:46 PM
The stache was AWESOME!

im hopin ortons beard can bring the snakes '05 streak back!

Taco John
04-14-2009, 02:50 PM
When did Ben Roethlisberger become the greatest active quarterback in the game? And when did Jake have us with a lead in that game? We started off 0-3 when Plummer committed two turnovers that turned into touchdowns for Pittsburgh.

Bronco Boy
04-14-2009, 02:52 PM
What is the point of this thread?

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 02:54 PM
What is the point of this thread?

to talk about sh!t... same as the rest of the threads...

Jason in LA
04-14-2009, 02:55 PM
You forgot

"Led" one of the worst offenses in Broncos history in 2006 only to see it improve under a rookie with no experience.
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People seem to ignore the fact that in '96 the offense sucked ass really bad under Plummer, and they were winning because the D was playing lights out. Then the D starts to fall apart, now everybody really sees Plummer sucking ass, so to save the season they had to switch to Cutler. Offensively it worked. I think they went from scoring 17 points per game to 24 points per game. They gained more yards and turned the ball over less. All after changing QBs. But the D just got worse as the season went on, and they still nearly made the playoffs. If they stuck with Plummer they would have been .500 at best. Maybe worse.

Taco John
04-14-2009, 02:57 PM
People seem to ignore the fact that in '96 the offense sucked ass really bad under Plummer, and they were winning because the D was playing lights out. Then the D starts to fall apart, now everybody really sees Plummer sucking ass, so to save the season they had to switch to Cutler. Offensively it worked. I think they went from scoring 17 points per game to 24 points per game. They gained more yards and turned the ball over less. All after changing QBs. But the D just got worse as the season went on, and they still nearly made the playoffs. If they stuck with Plummer they would have been .500 at best. Maybe worse.



After that Kansas City game, even Popps, who had been Plummer's most outspoken coddler here at the time, was resigned to the fact that Plummer had to get pulled in favor of young blood. Plummer played his way out of a starting job. It wasn't like it was just yanked from him out of the blue.

Drunk Monkey
04-14-2009, 02:57 PM
to talk about ****... same as the rest of the threads...

OK, this is deff Casino Royal 2.0. I am going to go with a preemptive **** you buddy.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 02:58 PM
When did Ben Roethlisberger become the greatest active quarterback in the game? And when did Jake have us with a lead in that game? We started off 0-3 when Plummer committed two turnovers that turned into touchdowns for Pittsburgh.

noone i have ever talked too has ever givin a good deal for his 13-3 season.. only becuz he came after elway... and in that season shannahan went all awall w/ his play calling... plus there were no receivers Shannahan no longer called bootlegs. he nolonger called the cut back. he got rid of Bell.. who im my opinion were the best tandum back system out there at the time (both bells) none of it was Jakes fault, i'll admit he had his moments w/ interceptions that got on out nerves but did cutler not do the same thing countless numbers of times??? yet plummer had a HUGE advantage in win pct.

Jason in LA
04-14-2009, 02:58 PM
the team was on its way to a playoff berth that year w/ plummer until they put cutler in.

That is not true at all and I'm sick of people saying that BS. If I'm remembering right the team started 6 and 2. Then the D started to fall apart, and they lost two games in a row, where Plummer sucked ass and the O couldn't score at all. The season was on the verge of going down the drain. Plummer wasn't about to lead them to a winning season or the playoffs. He was horrible. The O improved when they put Culter in, but the D was pretty much toast by that point.

Jason in LA
04-14-2009, 03:00 PM
After that Kansas City game, even Popps, who had been Plummer's most outspoken coddler here at the time, was resigned to the fact that Plummer had to get pulled in favor of young blood. Plummer played his way out of a starting job. It wasn't like it was just yanked from him out of the blue.

That's pretty much it right there. That game at KC, on Thanks Giving night, was the end for Plummer. He was just bad that game, worse than he had been all season. If they had stuck with him it would have just gotten worse.

Taco John
04-14-2009, 03:01 PM
noone i have ever talked too has ever givin a good deal for his 13-3 season.. only becuz he came after elway... and in that season shannahan went all awall w/ his play calling... plus there were no receivers Shannahan no longer called bootlegs. he nolonger called the cut back. he got rid of Bell.. who im my opinion were the best tandum back system out there at the time (both bells) none of it was Jakes fault, i'll admit he had his moments w/ interceptions that got on out nerves but did cutler not do the same thing countless numbers of times??? yet plummer had a HUGE advantage in win pct.


:rofl: Well at least your consistent!

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 03:01 PM
That is not true at all and I'm sick of people saying that BS. If I'm remembering right the team started 6 and 2. Then the D started to fall apart, and they lost two games in a row, where Plummer sucked ass and the O couldn't score at all. The season was on the verge of going down the drain. Plummer wasn't about to lead them to a winning season or the playoffs. He was horrible. The O improved when they put Culter in, but the D was pretty much toast by that point.

like you said the D was goin downhill.. and if you recall Mike started giving PLUMMER a hard time therefore the 2 did not get along n/e longer and plummer had heard a few games before that cutler was gonna take the reigns... which plummer was pissed about (and i completely agree w/ him)

Taco John
04-14-2009, 03:02 PM
That is not true at all and I'm sick of people saying that BS. If I'm remembering right the team started 6 and 2. Then the D started to fall apart, and they lost two games in a row, where Plummer sucked ass and the O couldn't score at all. The season was on the verge of going down the drain. Plummer wasn't about to lead them to a winning season or the playoffs. He was horrible. The O improved when they put Culter in, but the D was pretty much toast by that point.



Every time Plummer lined up across the field from Peyton Manning, he crapped himself - and the team followed suit. There's no doubt Plummer is a good leader. The problem is some of the places he led, the team shouldn't have followed...

Rigs11
04-14-2009, 03:03 PM
quit tryin man. around here plummer gets no credit because he had a good defense.and cutler gets no blame because he had a crappy defense. Right guys?Ha!

Jason in LA
04-14-2009, 03:06 PM
like you said the D was goin downhill.. and if you recall Mike started giving PLUMMER a hard time therefore the 2 did not get along n/e longer and plummer had heard a few games before that cutler was gonna take the reigns... which plummer was pissed about (and i completely agree w/ him)

Plummer with a horrible D was going to lead to a losing season. Cutler gave them a shot to make the playoffs because the O instantly got better when they put him in. And they damn near made the playoffs. Can you explain why the O instantly got better when they put Cutler in? And Culter's numbers were better across the board. And he was just a rookie.

So are you saying that Plummer tanked it because he was pissed? And Shanahan should have been giving him a hard time. He was sucking out there. Isn't that the coaches job? Plummer didn't start to suck because Shanahan was on his back. Shanahan got on his back because Plummer started to suck.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 03:09 PM
so everyone means to tell me lil whine baby cutler gets a "good" rap becuz he had an offense and no D while plummer could win with a D and ABSOLUTELY no O???

Rigs11
04-14-2009, 03:12 PM
so everyone means to tell me lil whine baby cutler gets a "good" rap becuz he had an offense and no D while plummer could win with a D and ABSOLUTELY no O???yep and all the baby jay supporters will blame either the D or the O in chicago when he fails to win.Jay is teh perfect OMG bestest QB evah!
Hilarious!

Taco John
04-14-2009, 03:12 PM
so everyone means to tell me lil whine baby cutler gets a "good" rap becuz he had an offense and no D while plummer could win with a D and ABSOLUTELY no O???


Maybe you didn't notice, but Cutler just got run out of town too.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 03:14 PM
Maybe you didn't notice, but Cutler just got run out of town too.

yes i know but i still dont think he should have the better rap over plummer... i liked cutler he had potential (until i started seeing his leadership qualities which there were clearly none)

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 03:27 PM
Success in the NFL, where parity rules, isn't all about assembling talent — far from it. It's about motivating players.

make sense??

rovolution
04-14-2009, 04:41 PM
noone i have ever talked too has ever givin a good deal for his 13-3 season.. only becuz he came after elway... and in that season shannahan went all awall w/ his play calling... plus there were no receivers Shannahan no longer called bootlegs. he nolonger called the cut back. he got rid of Bell.. who im my opinion were the best tandum back system out there at the time (both bells) none of it was Jakes fault, i'll admit he had his moments w/ interceptions that got on out nerves but did cutler not do the same thing countless numbers of times??? yet plummer had a HUGE advantage in win pct.

Casino Royale is that you?

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 04:43 PM
Casino Royale is that you?

casino royale? lol no.. i dont believe so. ive lived in New England the past few years and just finally moved back to bronc country

footstepsfrom#27
04-14-2009, 04:51 PM
OK, this is deff Casino Royal 2.0. I am going to go with a preemptive **** you buddy.
I think you're right...

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Bronx33
04-14-2009, 04:52 PM
You forgot


Personally responsible for turning the ball over 5 times in the AFC championshiop game.
Really good at throwing interceptions.
"Led" one of the worst offenses in Broncos history in 2006 only to see it improve under a rookie with no experience.




cool! you covered all the important stuff that most folks pass over and simply state ( jake got screwed over!) when in fact he failed to deliver at key times.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 04:54 PM
i have never denied that plummer didnt screw up. he had a tendancy to turn over the ball... but so did cutler. my point being. cutlers win % far less than Jake's and in my opinion i believe a QB who can lead is far more valuable than a QB w/ a cannon for a arm. which im hopin ole Orton will be that QB.

footstepsfrom#27
04-14-2009, 05:29 PM
noone i have ever talked too has ever givin a good deal for his 13-3 season.. only becuz he came after elway... and in that season shannahan went all awall w/ his play calling... plus there were no receivers Shannahan no longer called bootlegs. he nolonger called the cut back. he got rid of Bell.. who im my opinion were the best tandum back system out there at the time (both bells) none of it was Jakes fault, i'll admit he had his moments w/ interceptions that got on out nerves but did cutler not do the same thing countless numbers of times??? yet plummer had a HUGE advantage in win pct.
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Bronx33
04-14-2009, 05:39 PM
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So basically and pardon my spellling errors.

Visi žmonės gimsta laisvi ir lygūs savo orumu ir teisėmis. Jiems suteiktas protas ir sąžinė ir jie turi elgtis vienas kito atžvilgiu kaip broliai.

Translation

footstepsfrom#27
04-14-2009, 05:45 PM
So basically and pardon my spellling errors.

Visi žmonės gimsta laisvi ir lygūs savo orumu ir teisėmis. Jiems suteiktas protas ir sąžinė ir jie turi elgtis vienas kito atžvilgiu kaip broliai.

Translation
Not even close...like this thread.

lex
04-14-2009, 06:21 PM
http://savejakethesnake.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/jakesresume.jpg.w560h703.jpg

:bronxrox:

The objective should include the following: "Seeking an employer who will accept me even though I suck and to bring my legions of fans who like me because I'm a flake."

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 06:25 PM
The objective should include the following: "Seeking an employer who will accept me even though I suck and to bring my legions of fans who like me because I'm a flake."

all i can say is his background has mor eto it than cutlers has. and he hold records most QBs dont dream of touching.

lex
04-14-2009, 06:29 PM
all i can say is his background has mor eto it than cutlers has. and he hold records most QBs dont dream of touching.

Like what? Left handed interceptions? Im pretty sure most NFL QBs arent dreaming of doing that and most likely because its hard for most NFL QBs to imagine doing that.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 06:42 PM
Like what? Left handed interceptions? Im pretty sure most NFL QBs arent dreaming of doing that and most likely because its hard for most NFL QBs to imagine doing that.

these are just in the 2005 season



• Plummer set a Broncos single-season record for passing yards (4,089) and tied the franchise record for touchdowns in a season (27).
• He ranked third in the AFC (fourth in NFL) with 4,089 passing yards and ranked third in the AFC (8th in NFL) with 303 completions.
• Plummer’s 27 touchdown passes, a single-season career high, tied for third in the AFC (T-7th in NFL).
• Plummer became the first quarterback in franchise history to attempt every one of his team’s passes in a season and joined Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks as the only signal callers to accomplish that feat in 2004.
• Plummer became only the second quarterback in Broncos history (Craig Morton in 1981) to throw eight touchdowns in a two-game span with four scoring passes vs. Hou. (11/7) and vs. Atl. (10/31).
• His four touchdown passes vs. Hou. (11/7) tied a career high and marked his fourth career four-touchdown game to help him achieve a single-game career-best 137.8 passer rating.
• In throwing for 499 yards. vs. Atl. (10/31), Plummer posted the ninth-highest single-game yardage total in NFL history and the highest single-game total in Broncos history.
• His 499 passing yards vs. Atl. (10/31) marked the highest single-game passing total of any quarterback this season.
• His 85-yard touchdown strike to Rod Smith in snowy conditions vs. Oak. (11/28) was the longest pass of his career and the eighth-longest passing play in team history.
• He has recorded 26 career game-winning or game-tying scoring drive in the fourth quarter or overtime. Nineteen are “pure” comeback victories, the highest total of any QB since 1995.
• Including this season’s totals, Plummer is 19-8 (70.3%) as a Broncos starter (2003-present) during the regular season, marking the fourth-highest winning percentage of any NFL quarterback during that period (Tom Brady, 28-4, 87.5%, Donovan McNabb, 25-6, 83.3% and Peyton Manning, 24-8, 75.0%).
• Plummer was voted an offensive co-captain by his teammates, joining receiver Rod Smith in that role.

2004: Plummer’s creativity behind center resulted in several miraculous performances during the 2004 regular season as he completed 303-of-521 passes (58.2%) for 4,089 yards with 27 touchdowns and 20 interceptions in 16 starts. Plummer set a Broncos single-season record in passing yards and tied the franchise’s single-season touchdown mark, records that John Elway held at the beginning of the season. In attempting all 521 of the Broncos’ passes, he became the first quarterback in franchise history and was one of only two quarterbacks (New Orleans’ Aaron Brooks) this season to accomplish that feat. Plummer, an offensive co-captain, ranked third in the AFC (4th in NFL) in passing yards and ranked third in the AFC (eighth in NFL) in completions. His touchdown total, a single-season career high, tied for third in the AFC (T-7th in NFL). He led the Broncos to a win vs. Ind. (1/2), securing the team’s second consecutive playoff berth in a game in which he broke John Elway’s single-season franchise record for passing yards (4,030 in 1993) and tied Elway’s franchise-best single-season touchdown mark (27 in 1997). He completed 17-of-30 passes (56.7%) against the Colts for 246 yards with two touchdowns, including a 38-yard strike, with no interceptions while also recording his first rushing touchdown (5 yds.) of the season. Plummer completed his first eight pa


games:143 comp/att:2484/4350 yds:29,ooo+ TDs:161 INT%:3.1 int: only 167

over 11,000 of yds were with the broncs... he put alot of time and effort into this team and just got ran out of town becuz he "wasn't elway"

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
04-14-2009, 06:52 PM
Ya'll smoling crack. Check the stats youself.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jakeplummer/gamesplits?id=PLU243945&season=2003
http://www.nfl.com/players/jakeplummer/gamesplits?id=PLU243945&season=2004
http://www.nfl.com/players/jakeplummer/gamesplits?id=PLU243945&season=2005
http://www.nfl.com/players/jakeplummer/gamesplits?id=PLU243945&season=2006

In games he wins, his passing total is lower than in games where he loses. What does that tell you? We were not winning because of Jake. We were winning almost inspite of Jake.

Anybody remember "No Mistake Jake" Why the he!! do you think he got that nick name.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 06:55 PM
thx man for the back up

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 06:58 PM
noone i have ever talked too has ever givin a good deal for his 13-3 season.. only becuz he came after elway... and in that season shannahan went all awall w/ his play calling... plus there were no receivers Shannahan no longer called bootlegs. he nolonger called the cut back. he got rid of Bell.. who im my opinion were the best tandum back system out there at the time (both bells) none of it was Jakes fault, i'll admit he had his moments w/ interceptions that got on out nerves but did cutler not do the same thing countless numbers of times??? yet plummer had a HUGE advantage in win pct.

Hey Moxie lover,

Shanny didn't stop calling Bootlegs teams took the boot option away. Steelers wrote the blueprint in the championship game, they nearly took his head off everytime he rolled out.

Plummer couldn't pass from the pocket due to poor fundamentals and mechanics.

If he showed up to all the workouts rather than 85% of them and worked harder we may not have been forced to draft his replacement.

I am sure he is happy playing organized mens handball and banging is hot wife.

Good for him.

SureShot
04-14-2009, 06:58 PM
thx man for the back up

LOL LOL LOL

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 06:59 PM
i have never denied that plummer didnt screw up. he had a tendancy to turn over the ball... but so did cutler. my point being. cutlers win % far less than Jake's and in my opinion i believe a QB who can lead is far more valuable than a QB w/ a cannon for a arm. which im hopin ole Orton will be that QB.

Compare Cutlers Defensive rankings to the rankings of the Defense while Plummer was here.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 07:01 PM
Compare Cutlers Defensive rankings to the rankings of the Defense while Plummer was here.

compare the offenses each of em had... plummer didnt have that great of a receiving core and he put up numbers that were unbelievable

Bronx33
04-14-2009, 07:02 PM
compare the offenses each of em had... plummer didnt have that great of a receiving core and he put up numbers that were unbelievable



was he catching his own passes? LOL

SureShot
04-14-2009, 07:03 PM
compare the offenses each of em had... plummer didnt have that great of a receiving core and he put up numbers that were unbelievable

So if he was so Moxieawesome why was "where's Cutler" your first choice?

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 07:04 PM
was he catching his own passes? LOL

? dont be ***ing stupid.. he didnt have near the depth in receivers as cutler had last year... yet he still put up over 4k in yds. and ran for over 200

lex
04-14-2009, 07:05 PM
these are just in the 2005 season



• Plummer set a Broncos single-season record for passing yards (4,089) and tied the franchise record for touchdowns in a season (27).
• He ranked third in the AFC (fourth in NFL) with 4,089 passing yards and ranked third in the AFC (8th in NFL) with 303 completions.
• Plummer’s 27 touchdown passes, a single-season career high, tied for third in the AFC (T-7th in NFL).
• Plummer became the first quarterback in franchise history to attempt every one of his team’s passes in a season and joined Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks as the only signal callers to accomplish that feat in 2004.
• Plummer became only the second quarterback in Broncos history (Craig Morton in 1981) to throw eight touchdowns in a two-game span with four scoring passes vs. Hou. (11/7) and vs. Atl. (10/31).
• His four touchdown passes vs. Hou. (11/7) tied a career high and marked his fourth career four-touchdown game to help him achieve a single-game career-best 137.8 passer rating.
• In throwing for 499 yards. vs. Atl. (10/31), Plummer posted the ninth-highest single-game yardage total in NFL history and the highest single-game total in Broncos history.
• His 499 passing yards vs. Atl. (10/31) marked the highest single-game passing total of any quarterback this season.
• His 85-yard touchdown strike to Rod Smith in snowy conditions vs. Oak. (11/28) was the longest pass of his career and the eighth-longest passing play in team history.
• He has recorded 26 career game-winning or game-tying scoring drive in the fourth quarter or overtime. Nineteen are “pure” comeback victories, the highest total of any QB since 1995.
• Including this season’s totals, Plummer is 19-8 (70.3%) as a Broncos starter (2003-present) during the regular season, marking the fourth-highest winning percentage of any NFL quarterback during that period (Tom Brady, 28-4, 87.5%, Donovan McNabb, 25-6, 83.3% and Peyton Manning, 24-8, 75.0%).
• Plummer was voted an offensive co-captain by his teammates, joining receiver Rod Smith in that role.

2004: Plummer’s creativity behind center resulted in several miraculous performances during the 2004 regular season as he completed 303-of-521 passes (58.2%) for 4,089 yards with 27 touchdowns and 20 interceptions in 16 starts. Plummer set a Broncos single-season record in passing yards and tied the franchise’s single-season touchdown mark, records that John Elway held at the beginning of the season. In attempting all 521 of the Broncos’ passes, he became the first quarterback in franchise history and was one of only two quarterbacks (New Orleans’ Aaron Brooks) this season to accomplish that feat. Plummer, an offensive co-captain, ranked third in the AFC (4th in NFL) in passing yards and ranked third in the AFC (eighth in NFL) in completions. His touchdown total, a single-season career high, tied for third in the AFC (T-7th in NFL). He led the Broncos to a win vs. Ind. (1/2), securing the team’s second consecutive playoff berth in a game in which he broke John Elway’s single-season franchise record for passing yards (4,030 in 1993) and tied Elway’s franchise-best single-season touchdown mark (27 in 1997). He completed 17-of-30 passes (56.7%) against the Colts for 246 yards with two touchdowns, including a 38-yard strike, with no interceptions while also recording his first rushing touchdown (5 yds.) of the season. Plummer completed his first eight pa


games:143 comp/att:2484/4350 yds:29,ooo+ TDs:161 INT%:3.1 int: only 167

over 11,000 of yds were with the broncs... he put alot of time and effort into this team and just got ran out of town becuz he "wasn't elway"

All thats a tribute to coaching. If you look at Jakes statistics before going to Denver, it should be obvious. Its amazing that they were able to prop him up as much as they did...but smoke and mirrors can only take you so far. Ultimately Jake was exposed.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 07:05 PM
So if he was so Moxieawesome why was "where's Cutler" your first choice?

i was talkin to a buddy about cutler while i was making the name and accidentaly put cutler insted of plummer.

Bronx33
04-14-2009, 07:08 PM
? dont be ***ing stupid.. he didnt have near the depth in receivers as cutler had last year... yet he still put up over 4k in yds. and ran for over 200

and? UltimateSoldiers giant post said what to you?

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 07:10 PM
none of you guys can except the fact that a good LOYAL QB was replaced by your precious cutler and cutler flaked out on you and left the team... so now were stuck with noone (but orton) becuz of the predicament that lil baby and (i respect his earlier coaching very much but his later coaching sucked!) mike shannahan put us in...

SureShot
04-14-2009, 07:10 PM
I'm surprised his resume doesn't include licking chicks next to a soda machine. See this is why you need to go out to the bars Montrose.

24019

SureShot
04-14-2009, 07:11 PM
none of you guys can except the fact that a good LOYAL QB was replaced by your precious cutler and cutler flaked out on you and left the team... so now were stuck with noone (but orton) becuz of the predicament that lil baby and (i respect his earlier coaching very much but his later coaching sucked!) mike shannahan put us in...

Plummer is a cry baby quitter that cost us a draft pick.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 07:12 PM
I'm surprised his resume doesn't include licking chicks next to a soda machine. See this is why you need to go out to the bars Montrose.

24019

plummer could score with the ladies too so what? why does that make him a bad QB??

Bronx33
04-14-2009, 07:14 PM
none of you guys can except the fact that a good LOYAL QB was replaced by your precious cutler and cutler flaked out on you and left the team... so now were stuck with noone (but orton) becuz of the predicament that lil baby and (i respect his earlier coaching very much but his later coaching sucked!) mike shannahan put us in...


I fully except the fact that plummer sucked when is mattered and jay cried his way out of denver and mike lost his touch ( what's the problem?)

lex
04-14-2009, 07:14 PM
plummer could score with the ladies too so what? why does that make him a bad QB??

No, his spastic decision making and an inability to throw from the pocket made him a bad QB.

SureShot
04-14-2009, 07:15 PM
plummer could score with the ladies too so what? why does that make him a bad QB??

No he was a bad QB all by himself the ladies had nothing to do with it.

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 07:43 PM
these are just in the 2005 season


• Plummer set a Broncos single-season record for passing yards (4,089) and tied the franchise record for touchdowns in a season (27).
Broken by Cutler this year, Cutler threw for 25 TDs last year, Plummer had the 27 Tds in 2004 NOT 2005 and he threw 20 INTS whereas Cutler threw 18 last year
• He ranked third in the AFC (fourth in NFL) with 4,089 passing yards and ranked third in the AFC (8th in NFL) with 303 completions.
I can't find where to look this up but Plummers career QB rating was 69.0 Cutlers IS 87.1 his QB rating never dipped below 86.0 Plummers low was 50.8 that is BAD
• Plummer’s 27 touchdown passes, a single-season career high, tied for third in the AFC (T-7th in NFL).
and he threw 20 INTS
• Plummer became the first quarterback in franchise history to attempt every one of his team’s passes in a season and joined Saints quarterback Aaron Brooks as the only signal callers to accomplish that feat in 2004.
So plummer is in the same league as Arron Brooks! LOL Not sure if this stat helps him any! LOL
• Plummer became only the second quarterback in Broncos history (Craig Morton in 1981) to throw eight touchdowns in a two-game span with four scoring passes vs. Hou. (11/7) and vs. Atl. (10/31).
Cutler tied the NFL record for a QB to throw at least one TD in his 1st 4 games. Last person to do so was Charley Connerly. Plummer has no NFL records.
• His four touchdown passes vs. Hou. (11/7) tied a career high and marked his fourth career four-touchdown game to help him achieve a single-game career-best 137.8 passer rating.
Cutler also threw for 4 TD's in a game vs KFC: Cutler completed 20 of 27 passes for 244 yards, no interceptions and a career-best passer rating of 141.0 beating KFC 41-7
• In throwing for 499 yards. vs. Atl. (10/31), Plummer posted the ninth-highest single-game yardage total in NFL history and the highest single-game total in Broncos history.
Cutler threw for 447 yards vs Cleveland in a comeback win last year.
• His 499 passing yards vs. Atl. (10/31) marked the highest single-game passing total of any quarterback this season.
Big deal they lost that game 41-28.
• His 85-yard touchdown strike to Rod Smith in snowy conditions vs. Oak. (11/28) was the longest pass of his career and the eighth-longest passing play in team history.
Cutler had a 93 yard TD pass
• He has recorded 26 career game-winning or game-tying scoring drive in the fourth quarter or overtime. Nineteen are “pure” comeback victories, the highest total of any QB since 1995.
Cutler had 3 by my count last year, Atlanta, SD, Cleveland
• Including this season’s totals, Plummer is 19-8 (70.3%) as a Broncos starter (2003-present) during the regular season, marking the fourth-highest winning percentage of any NFL quarterback during that period (Tom Brady, 28-4, 87.5%, Donovan McNabb, 25-6, 83.3% and Peyton Manning, 24-8, 75.0%).
Plummer never had a Defense ranked 30th
• Plummer was voted an offensive co-captain by his teammates, joining receiver Rod Smith in that role.
Cutler has been captain last 2 years

2004: Plummer’s creativity behind center resulted in several miraculous performances during the 2004 regular season as he completed 303-of-521 passes (58.2%) for 4,089 yards with 27 touchdowns and 20 interceptions in 16 starts. Plummer set a Broncos single-season record in passing yards and tied the franchise’s single-season touchdown mark, records that John Elway held at the beginning of the season.
Cutler broke this record.
In attempting all 521 of the Broncos’ passes, he became the first quarterback in franchise history and was one of only two quarterbacks (New Orleans’ Aaron Brooks) this season to accomplish that feat. Plummer, an offensive co-captain, ranked third in the AFC (4th in NFL) in passing yards and ranked third in the AFC (eighth in NFL) in completions. His touchdown total, a single-season career high, tied for third in the AFC (T-7th in NFL). He led the Broncos to a win vs. Ind. (1/2), securing the team’s second consecutive playoff berth in a game in which he broke John Elway’s single-season franchise record for passing yards (4,030 in 1993) and tied Elway’s franchise-best single-season touchdown mark (27 in 1997). He completed 17-of-30 passes (56.7%) against the Colts for 246 yards with two touchdowns, including a 38-yard strike, with no interceptions while also recording his first rushing touchdown (5 yds.) of the season. Plummer completed his first eight pa


games:143 comp/att:2484/4350 yds:29,ooo+ TDs:161 INT%:3.1 int: only 167

over 11,000 of yds were with the broncs... he put alot of time and effort into this team and just got ran out of town becuz he "wasn't elway"

Your whole debate hinges on one Career year?

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 07:46 PM
none of you guys can except the fact that a good LOYAL QB was replaced by your precious cutler and cutler flaked out on you and left the team... so now were stuck with noone (but orton) becuz of the predicament that lil baby and (i respect his earlier coaching very much but his later coaching sucked!) mike shannahan put us in...

Our "Loyal" QB didn't want to show up and lead his team.

If he showed up to all the Team workouts in the spring of 2006 Shanny would not have moved up to draft Cutler.

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 07:58 PM
Waiting for a response from "Where's Moxieman" lover!

but, but, but Plummer rocked and Cutler sucked! Ya thats the ticket!

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 08:05 PM
Here is a response for you Where's Plummer:

Jake had this one game where his helmet came off and hair was flying everywhere.

It was so cool I watched it over and over in the reflection of my Molly Hatchet silkscreened mirrior I stole while working the carny last year!

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO Plummer and Hatchet! ROCK AND ROLL!

baja
04-14-2009, 08:05 PM
Maybe you didn't notice, but Cutler just got run out of town too.

The sad part is you really believe that don't you.

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 08:17 PM
But Jake had 499 yards in a blowout loss to Michael Vick. He was way better than the 447 yards Cutler put up in a comeback win!

Molly Hatchet and Jake Plummer ROCK!


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 08:18 PM
The sad part is you really believe that don't you.

I also thought he was lied to repeatedly.

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 08:25 PM
Hey "Where's Plummer"!

I can think of one bad thing Jake didn't do.

He threw a lot of INT's (he finished his career throwing 161 tds and 161 INTs) but he didn't throw the INT that ended TD's Career!

You have that to add to your Plummer wall of average things.

broncosteven
04-14-2009, 08:31 PM
none of you guys can except the fact that a good LOYAL QB was replaced by your precious cutler and cutler flaked out on you and left the team... so now were stuck with noone (but orton) becuz of the predicament that lil baby and (i respect his earlier coaching very much but his later coaching sucked!) mike shannahan put us in...

I can just see you sobbing in your moms basement: "but this interNetS guy doesnt understand that the 1st game I went to Jake threw a TD.....and 2 INTs but he threw this Moxieladen TD pass......and we lost but there was soo much Moxie in the stadium you could cut it with a knife, eat some and ram your hippe van into people the whole way home!"

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
04-14-2009, 09:14 PM
ya'll making my point for me. ya'll think that the last real QB here since elway was plummer. lol.

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 09:25 PM
hey dick for one im not in my moms basement. i live on ft carson dick for brains. for two im not saying Plummer was the greatest of the greats. he's just EXTREMELY underappreciated and my only debate between the two were the win/loss records... plummer trumps all other QBs since elway by alot. and 1 guy likes plummer and the whole ***in bronc nation comes down on him... i could imagine what he felt. no wonder he hated it. and as far as him "abandoning us" he left becuz of ppl like you guys... he didnt want to get ***ing traded. why let a team who he tried so hard for (and by the way he's the only one to win a playoff game for us) just trade him away? he said he'd rather retire than give us jack****. and i'm personally thankful considering who we had before him and after elway... lemme see...

Brian Griese, 1999-2002 (what a flop)
Bubby Brister, (1999), Jeff Brohm (1999), Chris Miller (1999), Gus Frerote (holy crap ae you kidding??2000-01), Jarious Jackson (phhhhht...2000-03), Todd Husak (2001), Steve Beuerlein (2001-03), Danny Kanell (biggest joke of em all;2003-04), Matt Mauck (2004), Bradlee VanPelt (2006) & Preston Parsons (2006).

and finally CryBaby Cutler...

footstepsfrom#27
04-14-2009, 09:33 PM
Plummer's ancient history. Move on...he has.

http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/10/plummerhandball.jpg

Where's Plummer???
04-14-2009, 09:39 PM
[QUOTE=footstepsfrom#27;2382373]Plummer's ancient history. Move on...he has.

QUOTE]

your right. we got orton now... reminds me alot of plummer (w/ out the mobility)

http://thefeed.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/jake.jpg http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/kyle-orton-stoned.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
04-14-2009, 11:56 PM
* Made Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards look like studs one night in 2006.

DHallblows
04-15-2009, 02:10 AM
The reason we have a 100 post rule to starting threads is to prevent people from starting stupid threads about drop kicks or an irrelevant QB. Just fyi.
I'm going to assume you deleted your drop kick thread because nobody posted in it? Or was it deleted by a mod because it was so retarded???

Rigs11
04-15-2009, 09:24 AM
All thats a tribute to coaching. If you look at Jakes statistics before going to Denver, it should be obvious. Its amazing that they were able to prop him up as much as they did...but smoke and mirrors can only take you so far. Ultimately Jake was exposed.

you guys are funny. plummer never gets credit with you yahoos. first it was becasue of the defense now it's because of coaching?take your statistics and cram them.it's about wins, if you want stats go watch the pro bowl.

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 09:26 AM
you guys are funny. plummer never gets credit with you yahoos. first it was becasue of the defense now it's because of coaching?take your statistics and cram them.it's about wins, if you want stats go watch the pro bowl.

LMAO!!!!

lex
04-15-2009, 09:39 AM
you guys are funny. plummer never gets credit with you yahoos. first it was becasue of the defense now it's because of coaching?take your statistics and cram them.it's about wins, if you want stats go watch the pro bowl.


A QBs primary job is to pass the ball. If you cant pass from the pocket then you severely limit the offense. Its amazing we got as much out of Plummer as we did considering his limitations. The level of devotion that he receives from some of the "fans" is absurd. Its embarrassing that so much of the fanbase are so enraptured by a player who is marginal at best because he is a flake that sports a rebel without a clue personna. Im sure your post has appeal to the simple minded but for others its not as simple as the team winning because of the QB. Some people look a little more acutely at why the team is winning. The rest of you walk around in oblivion thinking QBs are like prize fighters, who are solely accountable for wins and losses.

Mogulseeker
04-15-2009, 09:44 AM
Here is a response for you Where's Plummer:

Jake had this one game where his helmet came off and hair was flying everywhere.

It was so cool I watched it over and over in the reflection of my Molly Hatchet silkscreened mirrior I stole while working the carny last year!

WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOO Plummer and Hatchet! ROCK AND ROLL!

Jets game. Broncos won 27-0, and I sat right behind Meck77 and Discoman.

Jake's helmet flew off as he broke a tackle scrambling outside the pocket. He (very stupidly) went about 8 yards past the LOS, before (very smartly) sliding into (very stupidly) two Jets D-Linemen.

Mogulseeker
04-15-2009, 09:45 AM
LMAO!!!!

So... Jake, when are you gonna give up that handball silliness and come back to Denver?

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 09:46 AM
A QBs primary job is to pass the ball. If you cant pass from the pocket then you severely limit the offense. Its amazing we got as much out of Plummer as we did considering his limitations. The level of devotion that he receives from some of the "fans" is absurd. Its embarrassing that so much of the fanbase are so enraptured by a player who is marginal at best because he is a flake that sports a rebel without a clue personna. Im sure your post has appeal to the simple minded but for others its not as simple as the team winning because of the QB. Some people look a little more acutely at why the team is winning. The rest of you walk around in oblivion thinking QBs are like prize fighters, who are solely accountable for wins and losses.

is it not you and everyone else that is sayin "we were winning becuz of cutler??" i believe you guys were so now your contardicting yourself. and no i dont believe we won strictly becuz of plummer. but his leadership sure helped. and the fact that he helped lead a team to a 13-3 season that was no better than the team we had last year says atleast a lil bit. sometimes pure skill doesnt win ball games. sometimes it takes a great leader in front of that team.

lex
04-15-2009, 09:55 AM
is it not you and everyone else that is sayin "we were winning becuz of cutler??" i believe you guys were so now your contardicting yourself. and no i dont believe we won strictly becuz of cutler. but his leadership sure helped. and the fact that he helped lead a team to a 13-3 season that was no better than the team we had last year says atleast a lil bit. sometimes pure skill doesnt win ball games. sometimes it takes a great leader in front of that team.

Cutlers time as the starting QB has more or less coincided with the Slowik era. Perhaps you are unaware of that. You can continue to look at this in ridiculously oversimplified terms if you want though.

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 09:58 AM
Cutlers time as the starting QB has more or less coincided with the Slowik era. Perhaps you are unaware of that. You can continue to look at this in ridiculously oversimplified terms if you want though.

i know his career is over, and all i did was post a resume i thought was funny you guys took it ti the next level so i just did a lil bit of defending. i dont jump on your case when you defend cutler (who i guess is the exception to the rule "theres no I in team" to you...)

Taco John
04-15-2009, 10:05 AM
...sometimes it takes a great leader in front of that team.


http://newlevelsports.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/mike-shanahan.jpg

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 10:08 AM
http://newlevelsports.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/mike-shanahan.jpg

as much as i liked mike as a coach he wasnt the soul reason that the team played well... look at the team after plummer left and mike was still there. the team didnt want to play for cutler. and mike couldnt get them to want to play for him. this trickled its way all the way to the D. sure a good leader in a coach is good. but a leader in a QB is even more important. someone who could rally the team on the field.

lex
04-15-2009, 10:12 AM
as much as i liked mike as a coach he wasnt the soul reason that the team played well... look at the team after plummer left and mike was still there. the team didnt want to play for cutler. and mike couldnt get them to want to play for him. this trickled its way all the way to the D. sure a good leader in a coach is good. but a leader in a QB is even more important. someone who could rally the team on the field.


Oh yeah? What does that mean exactly..."rally the team on the field"? Does it mean Jake was calling the plays that Kubiak told him to call? Does it mean Jake was tellig funny stories in the huddle? What skill, exactly, was Plummer using to rally the team? I cant wait to hear this. Im up for a good laugh.

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 10:15 AM
Oh yeah? What does that mean exactly..."rally the team on the field"? Does it mean Jake was calling the plays that Kubiak told him to call? Does it mean Jake was tellig funny stories in the huddle? What skill, exactly, was Plummer using to rally the team? I cant wait to hear this. Im up for a good laugh.

he kept the team in shape. he talked to the team on the sideline after a bad play. he congratulated his team mates after a good outting. he would talk to them enjoy a good laugh on the side line... what did Jay do? he would stand next to mike and either pout or have mike kiss his ass... would you rather play for a guy who wont talk to you and just sits off on his lonesome or would you rather play with someone who will talk to you and keep your hopes up between plays and on the sidelines?

lex
04-15-2009, 10:21 AM
he kept the team in shape. he talked to the team on the sideline after a bad play. he congratulated his team mates after a good outting. he would talk to them enjoy a good laugh on the side line... what did Jay do? he would stand next to mike and either pout or have mike kiss his ass... would you rather play for a guy who wont talk to you and just sits off on his lonesome or would you rather play with someone who will talk to you and keep your hopes up between plays and on the sidelines?

...and then he would drop back in the pocket and suck. But Im sure his teammates were ok with that since he "kept them in shape", congratulated them, and shared a good laugh. And Im sure the left handed interceptions just made Jake that much more loveable to them.


When Cutler received that concussion against SF in the last game of 2006, how exactly did Plummer rally the troops? If he is/was such a leader it should have revealed itself then.

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 10:23 AM
...and then he would drop back in the pocket and suck. But Im sure his teammates were ok with that since he "kept them in shape", congratulated them, and shared a good laugh. And Im sure the left handed interceptions just made Jake that much more loveable to them.

im done arguin with you becuz your too bone headed to even listen to someone elses argument. you have an argument i atleast listen and try to be reasonable about it... but w/e your right. go root for your honey cutler

lex
04-15-2009, 10:26 AM
im done arguin with you becuz your too bone headed to even listen to someone elses argument. you have an argument i atleast listen and try to be reasonable about it... but w/e your right. go root for your honey cutler

You act like Im blindly accepting of Cutler. Im not. There are/were things about him that I didnt like.

broncosteven
04-15-2009, 12:36 PM
Cutlers time as the starting QB has more or less coincided with the Slowik era. Perhaps you are unaware of that. You can continue to look at this in ridiculously oversimplified terms if you want though.

People don't factor in the terrible defensive support Cutler got his whole time in Denver.

Coyer's D started out lights out the 1st 5-7 games in 2006 and it has been downhill ever since.

People fault Cutler for not putting up 40 points everygame even though in at least 2 games last year the D allowed 52 and 40+ vs Patsy's.

It's all Jay's fault.

Where's Plummer???
04-15-2009, 12:41 PM
im not blaming Jay for n/e thing. i know we couldnt and shouldnt have relied on him to put up 40 points a game