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NFLBRONCO
04-05-2009, 12:29 PM
Leave NEED out of it. What players do you feel are best players and would add the most to our present team.

Do O and D please Thank You

BroncoMan4ever
04-05-2009, 01:00 PM
Tyson Jackson, Cushing, Matthews, Barwin and Wells would all be available when we pick and all of them would make the team better.

I left off Brown because i don't think he'll be available at 12 and i don't think he is going to be very good. Raji, left him off because he won't be there and i don't see him as a NT, i basically left off QBs and the guys more than likely going top 10 as there is almost no chance we get any of them.

Paladin
04-05-2009, 03:42 PM
I think Jackson at 12 and Mathews or Barwin at 18 would be the schitz.....

But I also believe the 12 will be traded for more picks......

cmhargrove
04-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Can we start by saying that amlost every player that goes in the first (and probably second round) could help improve our football team. We are rebuilding, so we need starters, and we need depth.

Stafford or Sanchez could tumble and could even sit for a year to learn. They both could be good QB's, but I think both could stand to "red shirt" for a year.

There are several D-linemen that could help us. Raji or Peria Jerry at DT, Jackson or potentially Ayers at DE.

OLB is probably the best value, but buyer beware - many of these guys might be "projects." Curry, Brown, Orakpo, Cushing, Matthews, Barwin, Maybin, Sintim, Johnson, and one of my favorites - Larry English could all help the team.

You could say Delmas might be the only first round Safety, and Jenkins might be the only first round CB (maybe Alphonso Smith also).

I would rather take a running back from the second or third round than the first. I think that both Wells and Moreno could have a rough transition, but I wouldn't complain about them either.

With Marshall's problems, they might even look at WR if Crabtree or Maclin slides. Looking at McD's offense, Royal sure plays like Welker, so he might be moving to the slot. That means we could use another a-player on the outside.

So many needs, we can hardly go wrong. But, in my gut, I know we need defense, defense, defense.

skpac1001
04-05-2009, 06:13 PM
There are several D-linemen that could help us. Raji or Peria Jerry at DT, Jackson or potentially Ayers at DE.



I liked this guys article on rb's (somebody suggested it in the Moreno/wells thread) so I checked out some of his other stuff. He wrote about Brown, Orakpo, Ayers and Maybin (Likes Orakpo but thinks he needs space, he gets shutdown if contacted quickly after the snap, so should be a 3-4 DE. Likes Brown but thinks he will fit best as 4-3 DE, hates Maybin). Anyways he sold me on Ayers, especially for Nolan (Adalius Thomas/Justin Smith type) and McDaniels (smart tough big versatile players).

Today's NFL game puts premium on drafting a pass rusher
By Greg Cosell
The article is for insiders only so I didn't link it, but its a sportingnews in Cosell's archive.

"The only objective in studying college tape is to project how these players will transition to the NFL. The absolute key in assessing college players is not to be blinded by production but rather to have a strong understanding of the traits and attributes that translate to the NFL game, which, by the way, is totally different than college football.

Robert Ayers

Ayers is the most versatile of the four. For Tennessee, he played five different positions: right defensive end in a 4-3 front, defensive tackle in a 4-3, defensive end in a 3-4, nose tackle in a 3-4 and outside linebacker in a 3-4. And he looked comfortable in all of them.

The fact that the Tennessee coaching staff used Ayers this way told me that he's a very smart and savvy player, capable of understanding and executing a wide range of responsibilities. That's a great trait as he transitions to the NFL.

Ayers was a complete player. He was athletic and quick off the ball, with an excellent closing burst. He also showed natural strength and the ability to win with power, both in the run game and as a pass rusher.

Overall, he was more impressive on film than Orakpo and Brown, especially when it came to physicality and toughness. He's got a more stout and sturdy body type, with the build and mindset of an NFL defensive end.

When Ayers was matched against Alabama left tackle Andre Smith, the mismatch was glaring. Ayers was so much quicker he made Smith look slow and plodding. In addition, his refined and polished pass rush moves further exposed Smith.

The more I studied Ayers, the more I thought of Terrell Suggs of the Baltimore Ravens: multi-positional, multi-dimensional, intelligent and aware."

Tombstone RJ
04-05-2009, 06:56 PM
I'd love for Orakpo to fall to the Broncos at 12. Put him in the new defense as an OLB and use him as a pass rush specialist. After Curry and Raji, he's the only guy I see as sure thing for the Broncos defense.

Paladin
04-05-2009, 07:13 PM
There are so many opinions on so many players, this board would never agree on player decisions. When it comes down to it, I believe the D will win out on most of the decisions. To be honest, I don't know where on the O they would find weaknesses. I have been brainwashed by the people on this board so many times, it feels like a car wash has hit me continuously.

To answer your quesition; I have no clue. But wake me the morning of the draft.....

lex
04-05-2009, 07:41 PM
I liked this guys article on rb's (somebody suggested it in the Moreno/wells thread) so I checked out some of his other stuff. He wrote about Brown, Orakpo, Ayers and Maybin (Likes Orakpo but thinks he needs space, he gets shutdown if contacted quickly after the snap, so should be a 3-4 DE. Likes Brown but thinks he will fit best as 4-3 DE, hates Maybin). Anyways he sold me on Ayers, especially for Nolan (Adalius Thomas/Justin Smith type) and McDaniels (smart tough big versatile players).

Today's NFL game puts premium on drafting a pass rusher
By Greg Cosell
The article is for insiders only so I didn't link it, but its a sportingnews in Cosell's archive.

"The only objective in studying college tape is to project how these players will transition to the NFL. The absolute key in assessing college players is not to be blinded by production but rather to have a strong understanding of the traits and attributes that translate to the NFL game, which, by the way, is totally different than college football.

Robert Ayers

Ayers is the most versatile of the four. For Tennessee, he played five different positions: right defensive end in a 4-3 front, defensive tackle in a 4-3, defensive end in a 3-4, nose tackle in a 3-4 and outside linebacker in a 3-4. And he looked comfortable in all of them.

The fact that the Tennessee coaching staff used Ayers this way told me that he's a very smart and savvy player, capable of understanding and executing a wide range of responsibilities. That's a great trait as he transitions to the NFL.

Ayers was a complete player. He was athletic and quick off the ball, with an excellent closing burst. He also showed natural strength and the ability to win with power, both in the run game and as a pass rusher.

Overall, he was more impressive on film than Orakpo and Brown, especially when it came to physicality and toughness. He's got a more stout and sturdy body type, with the build and mindset of an NFL defensive end.

When Ayers was matched against Alabama left tackle Andre Smith, the mismatch was glaring. Ayers was so much quicker he made Smith look slow and plodding. In addition, his refined and polished pass rush moves further exposed Smith.

The more I studied Ayers, the more I thought of Terrell Suggs of the Baltimore Ravens: multi-positional, multi-dimensional, intelligent and aware."


Ayers is a little too reminiscent of Gholston to me. Thats probably the wrong way to look at it but, he kind of makes me nervous. Not only that but the guy does a good job of beating blockers yet seems to have a problem finishing.