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Black96WS6
04-04-2009, 07:08 AM
And the writer is apparently one of the few Bears fans who is not a fan of Jay! http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-03-morrissey-jay-cutler-bears-chapr03,0,4048493.column

Rohirrim
04-04-2009, 07:13 AM
And those wide receivers the Bears desperately need—where will they come from when there are no draft picks or money?

He hit that nail on the head.

thumpc
04-04-2009, 07:57 AM
"It's why some of us were willing to put up with Terrell Owens (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/terrell-owens-PESPT005608.topic). Putting up with Cutler doesn't sound fun or necessary."
Ouuch!

dsmoot
04-04-2009, 08:02 AM
And the writer is apparently one of the few Bears fans who is not a fan of Jay! http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-03-morrissey-jay-cutler-bears-chapr03,0,4048493.column


Well written. Denver could use a writer of this caliber.

bombay
04-04-2009, 08:10 AM
Mr. Morrissey appears to be looking at this deal objectively.

The Joker
04-04-2009, 08:13 AM
Gonna be a lot of pressure on Jay this year.

I know a lot of people around here have hated this whole affair, but I still expect that next season we'll see a pretty good offensive effort from the Broncos. We have one of the better O-Lines in the league, a number of quality receivers and a very good offensive mind in McDaniels calling the plays. I expect a RB to be added in the draft within the first three rounds, and if we hit on that pick then the O should be just fine.

Orton put up pretty good numbers in a dreadful Chicago offense last year, with a vastly better supporting cast in Denver he should be well able to at least replicate his efforts of last year.

And if he does, the pressure on Cutler will be terrific to justify the massive haul of picks the Bears gave up to swap the two players. Can he put up huge numbers in Chicago with that O?

Be interesting to see how he copes with it.

Hercules Rockefeller
04-04-2009, 08:20 AM
I liked the average rating, 1.92 stars out of 5. Guess Bears fans aren't too happy that he called out the new QB.

theAPAOps5
04-04-2009, 08:22 AM
Well to be honest Cutler is the best QB to come in DECADES for them (physically of course). At least let them have a honey moon before squashing their glee with reality.

baja
04-04-2009, 08:54 AM
I liked this part;

Cutler said he loved everything about Denver, including the fans and his teammates. Yet he wanted out at the first hint of trouble. Why should anyone believe it will be different in Chicago?

DenverBrit
04-04-2009, 08:55 AM
I liked this part;

Think Javon Walker part deux. ;D

NYBronco
04-04-2009, 10:02 AM
I liked this part;

"Cutler said he loved everything about Denver, including the fans and his teammates. Yet he wanted out at the first hint of trouble. Why should anyone believe it will be different in Chicago?"

Odd... I thought Jay said the fans in Chicago were more passionate then the fans in Denver. Each time he speaks the more I am convinced of the where the problem is/was.

Punisher
04-04-2009, 10:05 AM
in exchange for Cutler, a 2009 fifth-round pick and a six-pack of baby formula.

LMAO

Circle Orange
04-04-2009, 08:56 PM
"Cutler said he loved everything about Denver, including the fans and his teammates. Yet he wanted out at the first hint of trouble. Why should anyone believe it will be different in Chicago?"

Odd... I thought Jay said the fans in Chicago were more passionate then the fans in Denver. Each time he speaks the more I am convinced of the where the problem is/was.

They'll get REAL passionate when he throws his first pick.

I hope Jay can block, run, and catch, too. It's going to be a busy season in Chicago.

NFLBRONCO
04-04-2009, 09:03 PM
Is Jay Bi Polar

OBF1
04-04-2009, 09:04 PM
From all appearances and indications, he has the maturity level of larva.

LMAO... loved the quote

SportinOne
04-04-2009, 09:12 PM
And those wide receivers the Bears desperately need—where will they come from when there are no draft picks or money?

He hit that nail on the head.

We got our best wide receiver in the 4th round, didn't we?

When was that guy from New Orleans drafted again?

And how about Rod Smith?

Wide receivers are a dime a dozen, and more times than not the QB makes them what they are, not the other way around.

Stop trying to make yourselves feel better about this situation with nonsense, guys. No matter who's fault it was, the Broncos got hosed and we lost out on something that could have been great. The Bears already have three things that will now take us at least 2 years to get.

A great quarterback, a defense, and a very solid special teams.

McDaniels' system could work, that's not really up for debate. But it's going to be a while...

lazarus4444
04-04-2009, 09:41 PM
^^^ I respectfully disagree. It'll be sooner than you think and the Broncos will be at least .500 this coming season. Just my opinion.

Circle Orange
04-04-2009, 10:48 PM
Didn't the bears get like, BLOWN OUT several times with their 'good defense'? Of course, if Jay's so great he might try making a defense look better by scoring enough points...OOPS...forgot about those last four games in Denver...

Massive logic Fail.
Cutler can't win with a bad defense
Cutler can win with a good offense
Cutler can't win with a bad offense
Cutler can win with a good defense

TRY AGAIN?

Rock Chalk
04-04-2009, 11:03 PM
Article was a different perspective than most Chicago media I'd say.

No one really knows how Jay is going to do next year. All signs point to him having a mediocre year though. The offensive talent just isnt there and while they could fill one or two needs, they arent capable of making the offense all world.

Here's what we do know: With all world talent around him, Jay still struggled in many games last year. He played well in many of them too but when it came down to crunch time, 2 TDs vs 4 picks in the last 3 games. Let's also be clear on that, 1 of those TDs came in garbage time in the last game when we were already done. So realistically, when the games still mattered, 1 TD, 4 picks in the last 3 games including a 0 TD 1 interceptionm performance at home against Buffalo, the weakest of the 3 final teams Denver faced.

Look, there were plenty of signs that Jay wasnt a great QB. People around here were enthralled with his arm and some of his albeit, amazing throws. So much so that they overlooked his numerous flaws. His football awareness isnt very high and has not improved over the course of his young career. He had all day to throw and still missed numerous wide open receivers instead opting to throw to covered guys , either single, double or triple covered.

He had a tendency to fold under pressure more often than not. People point to some of his comeback wins and he did have some, but NONE of them were when it was in crunch time with the playoffs on the line. He had a golden opportunity to begin to cement his legend with any of the last 3 games of the season and he failed, miserably.

Add in his offseason antics and what you have is a colossal waste of Denver's time and I personally could not be more happy.

I told you people when Taco wanted teh guy at the draft, that he wasnt the right guy for us :) Taco is ALWAYS wrong about draft picks. Buyer beware.

lex
04-04-2009, 11:06 PM
And those wide receivers the Bears desperately need—where will they come from when there are no draft picks or money?

He hit that nail on the head.


Chicago has a pick in every round but the 1st.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80eef17e&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Durango
04-04-2009, 11:13 PM
I was a big fan of Jay, but this whole affair has me confused about the goals of the Broncos in the short term. Trading away your franchise QB doesn't seem to me to be a great start to a play-off run. I like the Bears, and wish Cutler well, but I agree with the columnist that adding a big arm to 'meh' receivers leaves the Bears little better than they started out before the trade.

Let the Kyle Orton era begin. Has a ring to it, but I bet it's more an engagement and not a marriage.

SportinOne
04-04-2009, 11:37 PM
And those wide receivers the Bears desperately need—where will they come from when there are no draft picks or money?

He hit that nail on the head.

Draft pick issue has already been covered, and Cutler only accounts for (i think) about 2 million, is that correct? Given the fact that they are missing that first rounder, that's just less money that they have to spend on an unproven player. I don't see what the big deal is.

Put it this way, i guarantee that the Bears find a pro bowl wide receiver before we find another pro bowl quaterback.

Popps
04-05-2009, 02:03 AM
Neither of the last two SB winners made the Pro Bowl.

Jay Cutler had no business in the Pro Bowl over Rivers.

Broncomutt
04-05-2009, 02:24 AM
But, but....Cutler is a franchise QB!

franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB franchise QB..................

Have to admit, I suppose he really is.

Thank God it ain't mine.

DBroncos4life
04-05-2009, 04:41 AM
Didn't the bears get like, BLOWN OUT several times with their 'good defense'? Of course, if Jay's so great he might try making a defense look better by scoring enough points...OOPS...forgot about those last four games in Denver...

Massive logic Fail.
Cutler can't win with a bad defense
Cutler can win with a good offense
Cutler can't win with a bad offense
Cutler can win with a good defense

TRY AGAIN?
That could be wasn't their QB Kyle Orton? Crazy fact though the most points the Bears allowed last year was 41 points in a game they won. The Bears finished last year 1 and 3 when they gave up equal to our season avg (31) points per game. How cool would it be to have a team only allow 30 or mor points 4 times out of 16 games.

Week 11 was when the Bears lost a game by more then 10 points. The first three losses was by a combined 8 points. Man that D better step it up if they EVER think they can keep a QB like Jay in the game.

Spider
04-05-2009, 05:23 AM
We got our best wide receiver in the 4th round, didn't we?

When was that guy from New Orleans drafted again?

And how about Rod Smith?

Wide receivers are a dime a dozen, and more times than not the QB makes them what they are, not the other way around.

Stop trying to make yourselves feel better about this situation with nonsense, guys. No matter who's fault it was, the Broncos got hosed and we lost out on something that could have been great. The Bears already have three things that will now take us at least 2 years to get.

A great quarterback, a defense, and a very solid special teams.

McDaniels' system could work, that's not really up for debate. But it's going to be a while...

Rod smith was a rare find , and how many receivers did we go through before our 4 th rounder ?
Dime a dozen ? talking out of your ass .......
But Da bears got a bigger problem . their Oline ........you really think cutler has the mental fortitude to play 16 games under constant pressure ?
he threw picks when he had plenty of time in the pocket .......
Is it to much to ask for you to stop trying to put everyone in their place and think before you post ?

elsid13
04-05-2009, 05:48 AM
Rod smith was a rare find , and how many receivers did we go through before our 4 th rounder ?
Dime a dozen ? talking out of your ass .......
But Da bears got a bigger problem . their Oline ........you really think cutler has the mental fortitude to play 16 games under constant pressure ?
he threw picks when he had plenty of time in the pocket .......
Is it to much to ask for you to stop trying to put everyone in their place and think before you post ?

Just putting Cutler back there make the Chicago Oline better. His mobility allows Turner to move the pocket and attack the edge on roll outs /boot legs that will prevent the defense from keying on where he is. Add in his quick release which also helps. Denver line is good, but is wasn't the only reason for low sack totals. Orton is stationary QB that need great line play to be successful because he can't move and throw, Cutler doesn't have that limitation.

In addition with Forte back there the play action pass (something Cutler does real well) will also decrease the pressure as team are force to defend that option. With two solid catching TE in place the middle will be controlled and WRs will have more one and one match ups.

To say Cutler doesn't great improve that offense is joke. Cutler is one those QBs that force defense to play all sectors of the field and worry about him taking off.

Spider
04-05-2009, 05:51 AM
Just putting Cutler back there make the Chicago Oline better. His mobility allows Turner to move the pocket and attack the edge on roll outs /boot legs that will prevent the defense from keying on where he is. Add in his quick release which also helps. Denver line is good, but is wasn't the only reason for low sack totals. Orton is stationary QB that need great line play to be successful because he can't move and throw, Cutler doesn't have that limitation.

In addition with Forte back there the play action pass (something Cutler does real well) will also decrease the pressure as team are force to defend that option. With two solid catching TE in place the middle will be controlled and WRs will have more one and one match ups.

To say Cutler doesn't great improve that offense is joke. Cutler is one those QBs that force defense to play all sectors of the field and worry about him taking off.

if Cutler can do all of that ,how come he didnt improve us ?

elsid13
04-05-2009, 05:57 AM
if Cutler can do all of that ,how come he didnt improve us ?

What if he did and no one realized it. Every stop and think that success our line and Marshall,Scheffer, Graham and Royal had was because Cutler was back there? There is reason that QB is most important player on the field.

Given solid running game that was able to move the ball inside the red zone and we had made the playoffs and this wouldn't have happened. Now we have to hope that the "system" is able to make up for loss of very important cog in the offense.

Spider
04-05-2009, 06:09 AM
What if he did and no one realized it. Every stop and think that success our line and Marshall,Scheffer, Graham and Royal had was because Cutler was back there? There is reason that QB is most important player on the field.

Given solid running game that was able to move the ball inside the red zone and we had made the playoffs and this wouldn't have happened. Now we have to hope that the "system" is able to make up for loss of very important cog in the offense.

we did better under Plummer then Cutler given almost the same set of circumstances , add to it orton is a better pocket passer then plummer ever was ........ Broncos did good last year when Hillis was in ...... Hillis went out our production dropped , not saying that is Jays fault , just pointing out he isnt the miracle worker either ......

Circle Orange
04-05-2009, 08:56 AM
Without a solid O line (which Chicago doesn't have) Cutler won't have time to do anything BUT run. I look forward to seeing that headless chicken heave panic throws to bumblefingered return men posing as receivers, a running tight end that can't catch, and a cluster of clubfooted #3 receivers. Not to mention that great defense that got blown out lots last year!

Oh, the FUN! ;D