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Farrakhan
04-03-2009, 12:04 PM
Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.

One of my directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.

I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will move on, and move forward.

Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.

The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.

Sincerely,



Pat Bowlen

Garcia Bronco
04-03-2009, 12:07 PM
Good letter

atomicbloke
04-03-2009, 12:09 PM
CYA time.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-03-2009, 12:10 PM
Shouldn't this have been posted by OM poster "Pat Bowlen"? I hear he's the real deal...

garandman
04-03-2009, 12:11 PM
Some good PR today, it is nice knowing we can finally move on, Sounds like a sober Bowlen, good I'm glad he is off the sauce, for today anyway

broncosteven
04-03-2009, 12:12 PM
I am considering writing Pat my own letter.

It would go something like this:

The Broncos are not about Pat Bowlen or Paul Bowlen or names on facitilies. They belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise.

No one is above the franchise, player, coach, owner.

An NFL owners 1st responsiblity is to the fans and the City of Denver.

An NFL owner is a trustee of the franchise and should not put his ego above the best intrests of the team.

Next time you want to make sweeping changes please state that it was in the best intrest of the fans not because your dad's name is on some building.

Northman
04-03-2009, 12:13 PM
If that is from Bowlen i like it.

yerner
04-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Dear Pat,

Go **** yourself.

TheReverend
04-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because *hiccup* I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the *hiccup* Jay Cutler situation.

One of my *hiccup* directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both *hiccup* expect, and this certainly includes *hiccup* making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the *hiccup* team. He and General Manager Brian *hiccup* Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. *Bottles clinking* It is important that you know that at all times we *hiccup* represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given *hiccup* his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me *hiccup* personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl *hiccup* six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone *hiccup* in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that *hiccup* person will not be a part of this franchise.

*Extended period of snoring followed by abrupt wake up*

I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone *hiccup* does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will *hiccup* move on, and move forward.

Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 *hiccup* season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.

The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base *hiccup* in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.

Thank you for *hiccup* taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.

Sincerely,



Pat *hiccup* Bowlen

Fixed for accuracy.

Dr. Broncenstein
04-03-2009, 12:16 PM
dear pat,

you should have hired cower

doc b

Broncomutt
04-03-2009, 12:19 PM
If that's really from Bowlen, nothing but class. Thank you sir for grabbing the reigns and attempting to restore pride to an organization that was mired in mediocrity and stale-thinking.

Will McDaniels turn out to be a great hire? Only time will tell. But you had the courage to make that step.

You and Coach McDaniels have my full support.:notworthy

Garcia Bronco
04-03-2009, 12:20 PM
dear pat,

you should have hired cower

doc b

Except Cowher said he wasn't coaching again for at least another year.

Garcia Bronco
04-03-2009, 12:23 PM
CYA time.

At a rate of 96 percent renewal he doesn't have to cover anything.

RaiderH8r
04-03-2009, 12:25 PM
Mr. Bowlen,

I am a life-long fan of the Denver Broncos and I am utterly dismayed at the state of affairs of this franchise.

I grew up in Billings, Montana and made the maddening drive through the windswept portions of eastern Wyoming on at least 60 occasions since 1990. That’s 16 hours round trip, 960 total hours or 40 days of my life, in a car, going to Denver and I never regretted a minute of it. Every drive to Denver flew by due to the excitement and anticipation of seeing John Elway and the Broncos at Mile High Stadium. This does not count trips I have made to see the Broncos play in San Diego, Oakland/LA (I put my life at risk for those), Minnesota, and Seattle (I was in the stands when TD broke 2K). Again, each a cherished memory even though not all of them turned out how I would have liked. I was there to ring in Invesco Field at Mile High on September 10, 2001 when we beat the Giants and lost Ed McCaffrey for the season. And I made the long drive back that fateful morning of September 11, 2001. My friend and I must have been the only two people in the world who listened to the entirety of the days’ events on the radio, driving through quieted towns along empty roads, even by Wyoming’s standards. Much of my life story and milestones are defined by the accomplishments of my favorite team in all of sports.

I respected the difficult decision to fire a hall of fame coach because you needed to regain control of your team. I did not agree with firing Coach Shanahan but I absolutely understood and respected the move you made. I was excited when Josh McDaniels was announced as our new head coach. Like many my mind began to dance with thoughts of what his offensive game plan could do with the talent the Broncos had amassed on that side of the ball, all centered on Jay Cutler’s sling. We have managed to reload our offense with some of the most promising young talent in the NFL from the offensive line, to Eddie Royal and Brandon Marshall, to our running back by small town approach that was required last season. This offense made the club work. I won’t belabor the statistical prowess and numbers the offense put up. Suffice it to say that in his 3rd year, 2nd as a starter, I believe Jay to have done more with less defensive support than any QB before him.

I wept when we lost Al Wilson, I believe him to be a rare talent and an even rarer personality, especially in today’s NFL. When Al left so did our fire and passion on defense but those are the breaks and life in the NFL. Again, I was thrilled when we brought in Mike Nolan and began making short term moves to address critical needs and, with a solid draft, we could make significant strides forward on the defensive side of the ball and be on the way to the playoffs once again.

The entire saga surrounding a franchise, pro bowl quarterback reeks of ineptitude, inexperience, and good old fashioned prideful arrogance. Coach McDaniels wanted his security blanket at quarterback. Yeah, I get it; he worked with Cassell and has faith in Cassell’s ability to run his offense. Part of being a coach is imparting your knowledge to the players you lead and if McDaniels does not have the self confidence to believe he could accomplish that with Jay Cutler I have to question his ability as a coach. I fully understand his desire to improve the team and that no player is untouchable but there is a way to conduct business with each and every player and their personality and McDaniels’ complete lack of appreciation and understanding of this fundamental fact leads me to question the level of his maturity, I’m 32 years old and this is common knowledge; know your personnel. Through the bumbling efforts of McDaniels and Brian Xanders (who has been conspicuously silent and/or absent which further fuels my waning faith in the leadership structure of this franchise) they released the genie and can not put it back in the bottle. If you did not know about these efforts you are an absentee owner, in which case you could have kept the hall of fame coach, if you did know about these efforts what did McDaniels say to convince you that the franchise is better off abandoning their franchise quarterback that you had previously given so much support? As it stands there is little to no opportunity to find a quarterback of Jay’s caliber and make the improvements to this team that would justify this entire fiasco.

We have fundamentally weakened our offense. Making Denver’s defense mediocre would be a significant accomplishment in one offseason, with Cutler at the helm he would not have needed much more than that to get this club to the playoffs. Now the club is looking at complete mediocrity.

I have held up through recent years through patience, loyalty, and the belief that this franchise had bearing and direction. I am running thin on patience and have lost faith that the franchise has any sense of itself or its future. As for loyalty, the sacred cow of any fan base, I have been disabused of my naiveté. The NFL is a business; I have heard that line more times in the last four weeks than I care to count and I have learned my lesson. My fan loyalty has been taken for granted, in short Mr. Bowlen, you are losing my business. I no longer care for your product. Unless and until you rectify the state of affairs of this franchise I withdraw my unwavering and unquestioned support for all things Broncos. I do not come easily to this decision, my entire life I looked forward to the day when I could hold my son in my arms and tell him of the franchise I grew up adoring; passing along to him the passion and desire that comes with being a fan of the Denver Broncos. I now have my son, I do not, however, have that franchise and that breaks my heart.

I know I am only one and that my withdrawal probably hurts me far more than it will ever hurt you; and that's really the point. At one time I believe you would have cared about losing a fan, any fan because you too were a fan. I don't think you care about that any more.

broncosteven
04-03-2009, 12:26 PM
At a rate of 96 percent renewal he doesn't have to cover anything.

A rebuilding year could change that renewal rate very quick.

I knew a guy who was on the Season tix list during the SB run, he was told 10-15 years to wait.

They had the bad year in 1999 then 2001 I think. Anyway he had his seats by 2002. I think he was on list under 5 years, he had his pick of seats.

worm
04-03-2009, 12:28 PM
Can we hire Pat's PR guy to coach the team?

Rohirrim
04-03-2009, 12:33 PM
Excellent letter. Well done, Pat.

Garcia Bronco
04-03-2009, 12:33 PM
A rebuilding year could change that renewal rate very quick.

I knew a guy who was on the Season tix list during the SB run, he was told 10-15 years to wait.

They had the bad year in 1999 then 2001 I think. Anyway he had his seats by 2002. I think he was on list under 5 years, he had his pick of seats.

2001 they moved into a new stadium.

I doubt it with a season ticket holder list with a 5-10 year long wait. This is more than a rebuilding year. With the schedule we have it could have been very tough regardless. I honestly think we could very well be in the lpayoffs next year.

lex
04-03-2009, 12:39 PM
Did anyone else get this email?

4/3/09

Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.

One of my directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.

I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will move on, and move forward.

Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.

The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.

Sincerely,



Pat Bowlen

bronco militia
04-03-2009, 12:41 PM
thanks pat

what ever

lex
04-03-2009, 12:41 PM
Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.


Does anyone have a hard time reconciling this with, "this one's for John!"?

Farrakhan
04-03-2009, 12:41 PM
At a rate of 96 percent renewal he doesn't have to cover anything.

I refute those numbers.

Thus far, the Broncos have only asked for the first installment of the 2009 payment from season ticket holders. Fans, who had paid their playoff tickets in full from '08, had a positive balance from last year which transferred to their 2009 first installment.

The Broncos won't know the severity of the season ticket fallout until after the second installment is due.

Farrakhan
04-03-2009, 12:43 PM
A rebuilding year could change that renewal rate very quick.

I knew a guy who was on the Season tix list during the SB run, he was told 10-15 years to wait.

They had the bad year in 1999 then 2001 I think. Anyway he had his seats by 2002. I think he was on list under 5 years, he had his pick of seats.

I got on the season ticket waiting list after the 8-8 season in 2001. The ticket rep said on the phone, "we will speak with you in 10-15 years".

In the summer of 2006, the Broncos called me and asked me if I wanted to purchase season tickets. My wait was four years.

bronco militia
04-03-2009, 12:43 PM
I refute those numbers.

Thus far, the Broncos have only asked for the first installment of the 2009 payment from season ticket holders. Fans, who had paid their playoff tickets in full from '08, had a positive balance from last year which transferred to their 2009 first installment.

The Broncos won't know the severity of the season ticket fallout until after the second installment is due.

bingo....

Gcver2ver3
04-03-2009, 12:46 PM
Does anyone have a hard time reconciling this with, "this one's for John!"?

all the good comments he made but of course we gotta find something he said to rub in his face...

okay so maybe Elway was the exception...

either way that was a GREAT message to the fans and i especially love the part where he reminded us that this team has been to the SB 6 times with 3 diff coaches and a bunch of diff players...

very good point...i may be alone here but i fully support Bowlen and what he's doing...

baja
04-03-2009, 12:51 PM
I believe that dumping Jay now will turn out to be one of the best moves this franchise has made in a long time. He was going to always interfere with this team first concept. It would be like trying to make Romo play fair.

lex
04-03-2009, 12:51 PM
Excellent letter. Well done, Pat.

Too bad its full of crap. He says its never been about one player but this is the same owner who raised the Suer Bowl trophy and said, "this ones for John!" He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. He knows he lost the biggest selling jersey. Also, this is a warning letter that it could get ugly and he's laying the groundwork for when it does. What he's not telling you is that he has actually put pride, arrogance, and principl over winning.

Punisher
04-03-2009, 12:53 PM
I'm going to print that out and wipe my ass with it

lex
04-03-2009, 12:55 PM
I believe that dumping Jay now will turn out to be one of the best moves this franchise has made in a long time. He was going to always interfere with this team first concept. It would be like trying to make Romo play fair.

Like I said previously, Ill wait to see how the draft unfolds before I decide to go in exile as a fan.

TailgateNut
04-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Like I said previously, Ill wait to see how the draft unfolds before I decide to go in exile as a fan.


Why wait? Considering you're in Chi-Town, you could very easily jump on Da Bears wagon.

We wont miss ya, especially your "loose a few game for draft positioning" takes.

GoBroncos DownUnder
04-03-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm with TGN, if you have thoughts about going into "exile as a fan", you were NEVER REALLY A FAN TO START WITH!!!

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass! Goodbye!

Drek
04-03-2009, 01:13 PM
dear pat,

you should have hired cower

doc b

Except Cowher probably would've gotten rid of Bates as well. Same with Spagnuolo. We've had multiple sources that said as soon as Bates was gone Cutler wanted out. It seems very likely to me that everything since then has been moves to orchestrate his departure.

GoBroncos DownUnder
04-03-2009, 01:15 PM
I'm with TGN, if you have thoughts about going into "exile as a fan", you were NEVER REALLY A FAN TO START WITH!!!

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass! Goodbye!

Archie
04-03-2009, 01:16 PM
I got it... I'm VERY frustrated and have been for the last month as this stupid soap opera played out. Every day it went on the inevitability of the final outcome become more and more clear. But - I was hopeful.

i agree wtih everything that Pat said here. But I will tell you in my mind they treated Cutler like crap through this process and then were pissed when he was not the bigger man. At the end of the day, while I hated Cutler's assinine immaturity, I thought the Broncos did the most horrendus job ever of managing this situation.

This letter draws me a step back to the Broncos but I have a long climb ahead of me... This whole episode makes me think of the Broncos like the Lions or Bengals or... Very frustrating.

GoBroncos DownUnder
04-03-2009, 01:19 PM
Uh, ...Yeah ... and my computer meant it 14 times MORE than ME! ???




(WTF? site host glitch?)

muzz
04-03-2009, 01:20 PM
Here's an interesting article I found on yahoo from the Bear's point of view

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090403/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_revamped_bears_1

Personally, I have pretty much had it with pro sports - it's all about money, but I have to admit that to getting sucked back in to it sometimes. Right now this whole thing looks like one gigantic mess to me.

TheReverend
04-03-2009, 01:20 PM
Great post Raiderh8r

ak1971
04-03-2009, 01:21 PM
Too bad its full of crap. He says its never been about one player but this is the same owner who raised the Suer Bowl trophy and said, "this ones for John!" He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. He knows he lost the biggest selling jersey. Also, this is a warning letter that it could get ugly and he's laying the groundwork for when it does. What he's not telling you is that he has actually put pride, arrogance, and principl over winning.

sorry I am not as big a fan as you...can you show me how?

RaiderH8r
04-03-2009, 01:27 PM
Great post Raiderh8r

Thanks. It wasn't easy.

lex
04-03-2009, 01:28 PM
Why wait? Considering you're in Chi-Town, you could very easily jump on Da Bears wagon.

We wont miss ya, especially your "loose a few game for draft positioning" takes.

Well, actually, was it "a few games" and was it really "lose"? It seems likely you dont actually know what youre saying. But, for what its worth, if you have a problem with that, it probably wont defend any amount of losing this year by calling it "rebuilding", because that would make you a hypocrite.

lex
04-03-2009, 01:30 PM
I'm with TGN, if you have thoughts about going into "exile as a fan", you were NEVER REALLY A FAN TO START WITH!!!

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass! Goodbye!

A fan is not a lemming.

lex
04-03-2009, 01:31 PM
sorry I am not as big a fan as you...can you show me how?


I really have no idea what youre trying to say. It really doesnt matchup with anything Ive said and I dont think Ive replied to any of your posts.

broncofan2438
04-03-2009, 01:45 PM
I have the opportunity to buy a guys season tickets for this upcoming year. I really want to do it, but the negativity around all this makes me sick and not want to do it

MplsBronco
04-03-2009, 01:48 PM
I can't wait til you weak a$$ "fans" are shown just how pathetic and foolish you are. This team is going to be just fine. Oh what will you do when this team succeeds??? It is going to drive you nuts!

Bronx33
04-03-2009, 01:51 PM
Shouldn't this have been posted by OM poster "Pat Bowlen"? I hear he's the real deal...


That poster lives in nebraska ( it isn't him)

Bronx33
04-03-2009, 01:53 PM
I have the opportunity to buy a guys season tickets for this upcoming year. I really want to do it, but the negativity around all this makes me sick and not want to do it


plus you live in california.

bpc
04-03-2009, 01:54 PM
Fixed for accuracy.

HA HA! Awesome post!

GoBroncos DownUnder
04-03-2009, 01:58 PM
A fan is not a lemming.
Call it what you will, I am a dedicated Bronco fan. And my colours will never run, never fade and are NEVER hidden!


My PROUDEST moment as a Bronco fan - Giants Stadium 2005 - 4 of us heading up the stairs to the nosebleed seats, all wearing Orange and Blue, and as the "booing" starts and gets louder, I realise they are booing us! We all look up, and as we pause to take in the spectacle of 3000 Giants booing and hurling abuse at us, I raised my hands to spur them on and we all started! "Can't hear ya?" They got louder! ... "That all ya got?" Louder! ... Doing the "Hulk Hogan" poses! LOUDER!
I AM a Denver fanatic lex, so I'm sorry that I can't "help" you or understand your mentality.

bpc
04-03-2009, 02:00 PM
Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.

One of my directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.

I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will move on, and move forward.

Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.

The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.

Sincerely,



Pat Bowlen

Dear fans,

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Welcome to the other side of 4-12. Keep lining my pockets.

Pat-

PS: Thanks for the new stadium. I'll get back to those premium free agents when the markets back up.

TA TA~

SuperCharger17
04-03-2009, 02:02 PM
Pretty good letter and well deserved for the fans.

I'm kinda surprised. I always thought that dude was a real doosh. I'm sure he is. He's just having a moment.

Bronx33
04-03-2009, 02:04 PM
Nobody cares what you think chugger.

SuperCharger17
04-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Then why did you post to my response donk?

lex
04-03-2009, 02:10 PM
Call it what you will, I am a dedicated Bronco fan. And my colours will never run, never fade and are NEVER hidden!


My PROUDEST moment as a Bronco fan - Giants Stadium 2005 - 4 of us heading up the stairs to the nosebleed seats, all wearing Orange and Blue, and as the "booing" starts and gets louder, I realise they are booing us! We all look up, and as we pause to take in the spectacle of 3000 Giants booing and hurling abuse at us, I raised my hands to spur them on and we all started! "Can't hear ya?" They got louder! ... "That all ya got?" Louder! ... Doing the "Hulk Hogan" poses! LOUDER!
I AM a Denver fanatic lex, so I'm sorry that I can't "help" you or understand your mentality.
I put up with the same form of harassmant at the Chicago game a couple of years ago (although there were a lot of Broncos fans at soldier field) so I can relate to what youre saying. I was also at the Chiefs game at Arrowhead last year and had another similar experience to what youre saying. But Im also not a lemming.

vancejohnson82
04-03-2009, 02:15 PM
I put up with the same form of harassmant at the Chicago game a couple of years ago (although there were a lot of Broncos fans at soldier field) so I can relate to what youre saying. I was also at the Chiefs game at Arrowhead last year and had another similar experience to what youre saying. But Im also not a lemming.

so when do you stop bitching and start rooting for the team??

give me an estimated date so I can take you off ignore around then

epicSocialism4tw
04-03-2009, 02:15 PM
Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.

[QUOTE]One of my directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

...except that McD has already admitted that he was overwhelmed by all the action out of the gates and stumbled to make mistakes in the Cassel/Cutler arrangement...then McD lied to Cutler and the world about it repeatedly.

I'm not sure what planet your on where that type of behavior = honesty and/ or integrity, but its not this one. You screwed this one up royally Pat. I wont waste my money on your product this year as you are clearly becoming less capable of making sound decisions, and I have no interest in paying NFL premium for an inferior product.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

You overreacted in a short amount of time.

Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.

This is more garbage. It was about one player for a long time. So much so that Denver still lives and breathes John Elway. One player built your house.

I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will move on, and move forward.

Forward? Your forward looks alot like everyone elses backward to me.

Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.

The highest championship level? It has been 10 years since this franchise competed on that level, and now it will take at least another 5. You are committed to mediocrity.

The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.

You are lucky that Denver is a one sport town, because anywhere else and your ticket sales would fall like a rock off a cliff. It is the fans that should be congratulated for their support, and you should be reprimanded for your futile management.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.

You need to solicit understanding from Broncos fans because you cant manage something that they are paying top dollar for?

Get over yourself.

You screwed up royally and alienated the fanbase. You have alot of work to get to. Quit whining for support and get your butt in the office...had you been there to begin with, all of this could have been avoided. Instead you left the work up to a kid who continues to make mistake after mistake.

You brought a slimy New Engladn liars culture to Broncos. Congrats.

ak1971
04-03-2009, 02:24 PM
plus you live in california.

Want to buy my tickets? Im always willing to be sell to the highest bidder.

BroncoMan4ever
04-03-2009, 02:24 PM
Good letter

i wonder who wrote it for him

ak1971
04-03-2009, 02:24 PM
plus you live in california.

you're a douchebag anyway.

epicSocialism4tw
04-03-2009, 02:25 PM
Dear fans,

<a href="http://s434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/bpc5180/?action=view&current=turd.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq68/bpc5180/turd.png" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Welcome to the other side of 4-12. Keep lining my pockets.

Pat-

PS: Thanks for the new stadium. I'll get back to those premium free agents when the markets back up.

TA TA~

Yeah...Pat jumped the gun and sent the team into rebuilding mode for the second time in 3 years because he has the fans' best interest in mind! Hilarious!

We all love to see crappy players run around and lose games...its what we love to spend 200 bucks a ticket on!

SportinOne
04-03-2009, 02:30 PM
Mr. Bowlen,

I am a life-long fan of the Denver Broncos and I am utterly dismayed at the state of affairs of this franchise.

I grew up in Billings, Montana and made the maddening drive through the windswept portions of eastern Wyoming on at least 60 occasions since 1990. That’s 16 hours round trip, 960 total hours or 40 days of my life, in a car, going to Denver and I never regretted a minute of it. Every drive to Denver flew by due to the excitement and anticipation of seeing John Elway and the Broncos at Mile High Stadium. This does not count trips I have made to see the Broncos play in San Diego, Oakland/LA (I put my life at risk for those), Minnesota, and Seattle (I was in the stands when TD broke 2K). Again, each a cherished memory even though not all of them turned out how I would have liked. I was there to ring in Invesco Field at Mile High on September 10, 2001 when we beat the Giants and lost Ed McCaffrey for the season. And I made the long drive back that fateful morning of September 11, 2001. My friend and I must have been the only two people in the world who listened to the entirety of the days’ events on the radio, driving through quieted towns along empty roads, even by Wyoming’s standards. Much of my life story and milestones are defined by the accomplishments of my favorite team in all of sports.

I respected the difficult decision to fire a hall of fame coach because you needed to regain control of your team. I did not agree with firing Coach Shanahan but I absolutely understood and respected the move you made. I was excited when Josh McDaniels was announced as our new head coach. Like many my mind began to dance with thoughts of what his offensive game plan could do with the talent the Broncos had amassed on that side of the ball, all centered on Jay Cutler’s sling. We have managed to reload our offense with some of the most promising young talent in the NFL from the offensive line, to Eddie Royal and Brandon Marshall, to our running back by small town approach that was required last season. This offense made the club work. I won’t belabor the statistical prowess and numbers the offense put up. Suffice it to say that in his 3rd year, 2nd as a starter, I believe Jay to have done more with less defensive support than any QB before him.

I wept when we lost Al Wilson, I believe him to be a rare talent and an even rarer personality, especially in today’s NFL. When Al left so did our fire and passion on defense but those are the breaks and life in the NFL. Again, I was thrilled when we brought in Mike Nolan and began making short term moves to address critical needs and, with a solid draft, we could make significant strides forward on the defensive side of the ball and be on the way to the playoffs once again.

The entire saga surrounding a franchise, pro bowl quarterback reeks of ineptitude, inexperience, and good old fashioned prideful arrogance. Coach McDaniels wanted his security blanket at quarterback. Yeah, I get it; he worked with Cassell and has faith in Cassell’s ability to run his offense. Part of being a coach is imparting your knowledge to the players you lead and if McDaniels does not have the self confidence to believe he could accomplish that with Jay Cutler I have to question his ability as a coach. I fully understand his desire to improve the team and that no player is untouchable but there is a way to conduct business with each and every player and their personality and McDaniels’ complete lack of appreciation and understanding of this fundamental fact leads me to question the level of his maturity, I’m 32 years old and this is common knowledge; know your personnel. Through the bumbling efforts of McDaniels and Brian Xanders (who has been conspicuously silent and/or absent which further fuels my waning faith in the leadership structure of this franchise) they released the genie and can not put it back in the bottle. If you did not know about these efforts you are an absentee owner, in which case you could have kept the hall of fame coach, if you did know about these efforts what did McDaniels say to convince you that the franchise is better off abandoning their franchise quarterback that you had previously given so much support? As it stands there is little to no opportunity to find a quarterback of Jay’s caliber and make the improvements to this team that would justify this entire fiasco.

We have fundamentally weakened our offense. Making Denver’s defense mediocre would be a significant accomplishment in one offseason, with Cutler at the helm he would not have needed much more than that to get this club to the playoffs. Now the club is looking at complete mediocrity.

I have held up through recent years through patience, loyalty, and the belief that this franchise had bearing and direction. I am running thin on patience and have lost faith that the franchise has any sense of itself or its future. As for loyalty, the sacred cow of any fan base, I have been disabused of my naiveté. The NFL is a business; I have heard that line more times in the last four weeks than I care to count and I have learned my lesson. My fan loyalty has been taken for granted, in short Mr. Bowlen, you are losing my business. I no longer care for your product. Unless and until you rectify the state of affairs of this franchise I withdraw my unwavering and unquestioned support for all things Broncos. I do not come easily to this decision, my entire life I looked forward to the day when I could hold my son in my arms and tell him of the franchise I grew up adoring; passing along to him the passion and desire that comes with being a fan of the Denver Broncos. I now have my son, I do not, however, have that franchise and that breaks my heart.

I know I am only one and that my withdrawal probably hurts me far more than it will ever hurt you; and that's really the point. At one time I believe you would have cared about losing a fan, any fan because you too were a fan. I don't think you care about that any more.

Couldn't have said it better myself, and I will be waiting and watching too. You're right, the NFL is a business. And if it's a business when it's convenient for them then it's a business when it's convenient for us fans too.

For now, go Cutler, and go Bears I guess. I'm only a couple hours from the stadium, i guess this just works out better. I can make that drive 4 times a year and it's still cheaper than one trip out to Denver. Sorry, Pat, it's business.

USMCBladerunner
04-03-2009, 02:32 PM
This thead is the best of all. The drama queens have hit the sweet spot with this one. Please keep it up. Can anyone top Raiderh8r's heart rendering exposition on how his son's life experience will be ldiminished due to his choice to abandon his Broncos fandom, and somehow put this on Bowlen.

Or can anyone be more obtuse than Lex when he lamely and erroneously tries to equate dedicating a Super Bowl trophy that was 14 years in the making to John Elway with refusing to let a third year QB try to hijack your franchise on the false pretense that he was mistreated because trade talks occured about him.

Any takers on trying to out-do Broncosteven as he somehow confuses NFL franchise ownership with some service provided by a municipality. I'm sure he'll be coming around with a petition to get a "bring Cutler back" referendum on the next ballot. NFL teams, after all, "belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise."

These are the podium standers right now, but this is the Mane and I have no doubt that someone somewhere, can channel their inner drama queen and rightfully replace one of them at the top of this glorious thread.

epicSocialism4tw
04-03-2009, 02:37 PM
This thead is the best of all. The drama queens have hit the sweet spot with this one. Please keep it up. Can anyone top Raiderh8r's heart rendering exposition on how his son's life experience will be ldiminished due to his choice to abandon his Broncos fandom, and somehow put this on Bowlen.

Or can anyone be more obtuse than Lex when he lamely and erroneously tries to equate dedicating a Super Bowl trophy that was 14 years in the making to John Elway with refusing to let a third year QB try to hijack your franchise on the false pretense that he was mistreated because trade talks occured about him.

Any takers on trying to out-do Broncosteven as he somehow confuses NFL franchise ownership with some service provided by a municipality. I'm sure he'll be coming around with a petition to get a "bring Cutler back" referendum on the next ballot. NFL teams, after all, "belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise."

These are the podium standers right now, but this is the Mane and I have no doubt that someone somewhere, can channel their inner drama queen and rightfully replace one of them at the top of this glorious thread.

Nothing can top the drama-filled appeal that kicked it off...the Bowlen "we didnt mean to screw you over, but we sure fixed him didnt we!" letter.

What a joke.

This franchise is a failure right now and has been for a vast majority of the time since Elway left.

RaiderH8r
04-03-2009, 02:39 PM
This thead is the best of all. The drama queens have hit the sweet spot with this one. Please keep it up. Can anyone top Raiderh8r's heart rendering exposition on how his son's life experience will be ldiminished due to his choice to abandon his Broncos fandom, and somehow put this on Bowlen.

Or can anyone be more obtuse than Lex when he lamely and erroneously tries to equate dedicating a Super Bowl trophy that was 14 years in the making to John Elway with refusing to let a third year QB try to hijack your franchise on the false pretense that he was mistreated because trade talks occured about him.

Any takers on trying to out-do Broncosteven as he somehow confuses NFL franchise ownership with some service provided by a municipality. I'm sure he'll be coming around with a petition to get a "bring Cutler back" referendum on the next ballot. NFL teams, after all, "belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise."

These are the podium standers right now, but this is the Mane and I have no doubt that someone somewhere, can channel their inner drama queen and rightfully replace one of them at the top of this glorious thread.

I know you're new to the Broncos, the SBs brought a lot of your types on board so I don't expect you to understand.

No, my son and I will find something else, that won't be a problem. It would have been very nice though. Perhaps its time I grow out of this childhood obsession anyway. After all, all fans are to these clubs are cash cows and they're happy to milk "fan loyalty" to fill their coffers.

For 14 years the Broncos were John Elway...hell they still are and that's part of the problem. If you don't recognize that you're either too young, too new, or too stupid.

And yes, these clubs belong to their cities in the sense that the city's residents have paid for the stadium, offer the tax incentives and provide the revenue base for the club to operate.

As for you, it's a good thing this is an internet forum so you can give your opinion while kissing McKid's arse.

DenverBrit
04-03-2009, 02:42 PM
I believe that dumping Jay now will turn out to be one of the best moves this franchise has made in a long time. He was going to always interfere with this team first concept. It would be like trying to make Romo play fair.

I think you're right.
Imagine the first time McDaniels chews out Jay in front of the team during TC.
The immaturity would raise its ugly head and the hissy fit would probably lead to a similar 'standoff' with McD.
Except, it's way past the draft, too late to make a trade that works for Denver and a major distraction at a critical time.
A disaster in the making with Cutler and Cook holding all the cards.

The timing was perfect for Jay and McD to have their 'moment.'
Next up, the draft with all that 'loot'. ;D

DenverBrit
04-03-2009, 02:44 PM
Get over yourself.



Sound advice. Take it. ;D

lex
04-03-2009, 02:46 PM
so when do you stop b****ing and start rooting for the team??

give me an estimated date so I can take you off ignore around then

Would you do me a favor and put me on ignore?

lex
04-03-2009, 02:53 PM
This thead is the best of all. The drama queens have hit the sweet spot with this one. Please keep it up. Can anyone top Raiderh8r's heart rendering exposition on how his son's life experience will be ldiminished due to his choice to abandon his Broncos fandom, and somehow put this on Bowlen.

Or can anyone be more obtuse than Lex when he lamely and erroneously tries to equate dedicating a Super Bowl trophy that was 14 years in the making to John Elway with refusing to let a third year QB try to hijack your franchise on the false pretense that he was mistreated because trade talks occured about him.

Any takers on trying to out-do Broncosteven as he somehow confuses NFL franchise ownership with some service provided by a municipality. I'm sure he'll be coming around with a petition to get a "bring Cutler back" referendum on the next ballot. NFL teams, after all, "belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise."

These are the podium standers right now, but this is the Mane and I have no doubt that someone somewhere, can channel their inner drama queen and rightfully replace one of them at the top of this glorious thread.

Thats a nice effort to try to frame it like Pat isnt full of double talk but in the end you fail. Pats words, once again, can be used against him. This is something thats been happening a lot lately. Just check out the "For reference" thread. Youre either a dimwit or youre not allowing yourself to be intellectually honest. It would be nice to go through life contorting to things that you agree or disagree with but its not intellectually honest.

USMCBladerunner
04-03-2009, 02:57 PM
I know you're new to the Broncos, the SBs brought a lot of your types on board so I don't expect you to understand.

No, my son and I will find something else, that won't be a problem. It would have been very nice though. Perhaps its time I grow out of this childhood obsession anyway. After all, all fans are to these clubs are cash cows and they're happy to milk "fan loyalty" to fill their coffers.

For 14 years the Broncos were John Elway...hell they still are and that's part of the problem. If you don't recognize that you're either too young, too new, or too stupid.

And yes, these clubs belong to their cities in the sense that the city's residents have paid for the stadium, offer the tax incentives and provide the revenue base for the club to operate.

As for you, it's a good thing this is an internet forum so you can give your opinion while kissing McKid's arse.

Don't make assumptions. I've never kissed McDaniels ass, I've acknowledged his role in this mess. He started the problem. But what I haven't done is ignore the reality that it was Jay Cutler that ultimately forced this move. And as for me (in distinction from you as of sometime today) I'm a Broncos fan. As a fan, I hold no allegiance to any player that wants no part of the Broncos. Furthermore, I've been a fan for quite some time, long before the Broncos ever won a Super Bowl, that's for sure. Long enough still for the team to make a myriad of decisions that I disagreed with and even outright mistakes. Never, ever, not once, did it occur to me to stop becoming a fan and then have the melodramatic flair to woe my progeny's suffering for it.

GoBroncos DownUnder
04-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Thats a nice effort to try to frame it like Pat isnt full of double talk but in the end you fail. Pats words, once again, can be used against him. This is something thats been happening a lot lately. Just check out the "For reference" thread. Youre either a dimwit or youre not allowing yourself to be intellectually honest. It would be nice to go through life contorting to things that you agree or disagree with but its not intellectually honest.
LOL ROFL! "intellectually honest" :rofl: Freakin' hilarious Hilarious!

lex
04-03-2009, 03:02 PM
LOL ROFL! "intellectually honest" :rofl: Freakin' hilarious Hilarious!

Im not making anything up. Its Pat's words.

vancejohnson82
04-03-2009, 03:05 PM
I know you're new to the Broncos, the SBs brought a lot of your types on board so I don't expect you to understand.

No, my son and I will find something else, that won't be a problem. It would have been very nice though. Perhaps its time I grow out of this childhood obsession anyway. After all, all fans are to these clubs are cash cows and they're happy to milk "fan loyalty" to fill their coffers.

For 14 years the Broncos were John Elway...hell they still are and that's part of the problem. If you don't recognize that you're either too young, too new, or too stupid.

And yes, these clubs belong to their cities in the sense that the city's residents have paid for the stadium, offer the tax incentives and provide the revenue base for the club to operate.

As for you, it's a good thing this is an internet forum so you can give your opinion while kissing McKid's arse.



I think the problem is that a lot of you are spoiled....spoiled rotten...which isnt a bad thing for sports fans sometimes but its starting to rear its ugly head

The Broncos are in the top 5 of the All Time NFL franchise rankings...

But hey, who are we to trust people who have a track record of success?

Why don't you try being a Bears fan...ask them how its felt the last 20 years....ask a Lions fan how it feels when football season opens....try being a Jets fan or a Chiefs fan for Gods sake...

For someone who claims to be a fan since the early 80s, jumping off the ship is completely short-sighted and immature...but good riddance

USMCBladerunner
04-03-2009, 03:12 PM
Thats a nice effort to try to frame it like Pat isnt full of double talk but in the end you fail. Pats words, once again, can be used against him. This is something thats been happening a lot lately. Just check out the "For reference" thread. Youre either a dimwit or youre not allowing yourself to be intellectually honest. It would be nice to go through life contorting to things that you agree or disagree with but its not intellectually honest.

Lex, there are plenty of things that Bowlen has said that have been contraditory. I've noted and acknowledged them. The whole not remembering a meeting or conversation with Jay about the offensive coordinator and all...he had to be blowing smoke or losing his marbles.

But to equate that with your alleged contradiction between "this ones for John" and this letter is silly. The two items are about totally different things. John Elway gave up salary for the Broncos. He walked right up to the brass ring three times and came up short. That statement was a recognition of his efforts and sacrifices for his team in the journey to reach the collective goal. What Jay Cutler did over the past few weeks, whether there is justification or not, is simply not even in the same philosopical sphere.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say with the bolded part, but I think it might be about my refusing to take a side and act like a zealot in this or any other issue. I'm not a contortionist. My decisions and opinions are mine and mine alone, however, I seek to observe, analyze, and conclude on things without bias or prejudice. Jay Cutler was a favorite player of mine. My guess is that the Broncos are going to be worse off because of all of this. But this doesn't chagne the fact that Jay played far more than his fair part in this unhappy ending, and being brandied about in trade talks doesn't exonerate his behavior in my eyes. At the end of the day, Cutler is a Chicago Bear. You should be so happy as to get to watch him every week without DirectTV. As for me, I'm hoping for the best from the Broncos, and despite the Cutler saga, there are reasons to be hopeful.

lex
04-03-2009, 03:17 PM
Lex, there are plenty of things that Bowlen has said that have been contraditory. I've noted and acknowledged them. The whole not remembering a meeting or conversation with Jay about the offensive coordinator and all...he had to be blowing smoke or losing his marbles.

But to equate that with your alleged contradiction between "this ones for John" and this letter is silly. The two items are about totally different things. John Elway gave up salary for the Broncos. He walked right up to the brass ring three times and came up short. That statement was a recognition of his efforts and sacrifices for his team in the journey to reach the collective goal. What Jay Cutler did over the past few weeks, whether there is justification or not, is simply not even in the same philosopical sphere.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say with the bolded part, but I think it might be about my refusing to take a side and act like a zealot in this or any other issue. I'm not a contortionist. My decisions and opinions are mine and mine alone, however, I seek to observe, analyze, and conclude on things without bias or prejudice. Jay Cutler was a favorite player of mine. My guess is that the Broncos are going to be worse off because of all of this. But this doesn't chagne the fact that Jay played far more than his fair part in this unhappy ending, and being brandied about in trade talks doesn't exonerate his behavior in my eyes. At the end of the day, Cutler is a Chicago Bear. You should be so happy as to get to watch him every week without DirectTV. As for me, I'm hoping for the best from the Broncos, and despite the Cutler saga, there are reasons to be hopeful.

Sorry, but I dont see how you can dedicate a super bowl victory to a player and then go say its never been about one player, especially after he nixed the deal to trade Elway and chose Elway over Reeves. Theres a massive inconsistency there. Its one thing if he wants to say that Jay's no John Elway, but he actually said, its never been about one player. Theres a massive inconsistency there.

lex
04-03-2009, 03:18 PM
Lex, there are plenty of things that Bowlen has said that have been contraditory. I've noted and acknowledged them. The whole not remembering a meeting or conversation with Jay about the offensive coordinator and all...he had to be blowing smoke or losing his marbles.

But to equate that with your alleged contradiction between "this ones for John" and this letter is silly. The two items are about totally different things. John Elway gave up salary for the Broncos. He walked right up to the brass ring three times and came up short. That statement was a recognition of his efforts and sacrifices for his team in the journey to reach the collective goal. What Jay Cutler did over the past few weeks, whether there is justification or not, is simply not even in the same philosopical sphere.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say with the bolded part, but I think it might be about my refusing to take a side and act like a zealot in this or any other issue. I'm not a contortionist. My decisions and opinions are mine and mine alone, however, I seek to observe, analyze, and conclude on things without bias or prejudice. Jay Cutler was a favorite player of mine. My guess is that the Broncos are going to be worse off because of all of this. But this doesn't chagne the fact that Jay played far more than his fair part in this unhappy ending, and being brandied about in trade talks doesn't exonerate his behavior in my eyes. At the end of the day, Cutler is a Chicago Bear. You should be so happy as to get to watch him every week without DirectTV. As for me, I'm hoping for the best from the Broncos, and despite the Cutler saga, there are reasons to be hopeful.

Sorry, but I dont see how you can dedicate a super bowl victory to a player and then go say its never been about one player, especially after he nixed the deal to trade Elway and chose Elway over Reeves. Theres a massive inconsistency there. Its one thing if he wants to say that Jay's no John Elway, but he actually said, its never been about one player.

MplsBronco
04-03-2009, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=McSkillet;2368096][QUOTE=Farrakhan;2367705]Dear Broncos Fan,




This is more garbage. It was about one player for a long time. So much so that Denver still lives and breathes John Elway. One player built your house.

Yeah, screw TD, Eddie Mac, Rod, Schlereth, Zim, Alfred, Romo, Atwater, Crockett, Griffith, Nalen, Mobley. John Elway is the icon but he couldn't have done it without those great teams.



The highest championship level? It has been 10 years since this franchise competed on that level, and now it will take at least another 5. You are committed to mediocrity.


Yet you probably wanted Shanny to stay. Bowlen is steering this team on a new course and all I can say is he is the friggen man. He's done just as much as anyone to make this team what it is.

Get over yourself.

Look in the mirror. And don't forget to pickup your Bear's gear.

The MVPlaya
04-03-2009, 03:23 PM
I am considering writing Pat my own letter.

It would go something like this:

The Broncos are not about Pat Bowlen or Paul Bowlen or names on facitilies. They belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise.

No one is above the franchise, player, coach, owner.

An NFL owners 1st responsiblity is to the fans and the City of Denver.

An NFL owner is a trustee of the franchise and should not put his ego above the best intrests of the team.

Next time you want to make sweeping changes please state that it was in the best intrest of the fans not because your dad's name is on some building.

You shouldn't write anything, you sound like a dumbass. An NFL owners 1st responsibility is the team, not the fans and City of Denver. The fans and City of Denver will follow a winning franchise.

SMH @ your idiotic logic.

Atlas
04-03-2009, 03:24 PM
Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players.

True, but 5 of those Superbowls Denver had a certain HOF QB that made them possible.

Since 1993 the SB winning QBs have been
Troy Aikman (3)
Steve Young
Brett Farvre
John Elway (2)
Curt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Tom Brady (3)
Brad Johnson
Ben Roethelisberger (2)
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning

Not too many Kyle Orton's in there. One thing is for sure Chicago now is much, much closer to the SB then they were 2 days ago and the Broncos are much further away.

MplsBronco
04-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Sorry, but I dont see how you can dedicate a super bowl victory to a player and then go say its never been about one player, especially after he nixed the deal to trade Elway and chose Elway over Reeves. Theres a massive inconsistency there. Its one thing if he wants to say that Jay's no John Elway, but he actually said, its never been about one player.

Are you serious? Now you have a problem with him dedicating the 1st SB to Elway? The greatest QB to play the game? The guy who defined the Denver Broncos? Whatever you need to support your agenda.

USMCBladerunner
04-03-2009, 03:27 PM
Sorry, but I dont see how you can dedicate a super bowl victory to a player and then go say its never been about one player, especially after he nixed the deal to trade Elway and chose Elway over Reeves. Theres a massive inconsistency there. Its one thing if he wants to say that Jay's no John Elway, but he actually said, its never been about one player.

Only for the stupid or, as you say, the "intellecually dishonest."

lex
04-03-2009, 03:30 PM
Are you serious? Now you have a problem with him dedicating the 1st SB to Elway? The greatest QB to play the game? The guy who defined the Denver Broncos? Whatever you need to support your agenda.

I dont have a problem with making it about standout players at all. What I have a problem with is making it about standout players in 1998 and then in 2009, saying its not about anyone player.

lex
04-03-2009, 03:33 PM
Only for the stupid or, as you say, the "intellecually dishonest."

Exactly. See? Youre learning.

USMCBladerunner
04-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Exactly. See? Youre learning.

Unfortunately, you aren't. At least I tried.

epicSocialism4tw
04-03-2009, 03:44 PM
Not too many Kyle Orton's in there. One thing is for sure Chicago now is much, much closer to the SB then they were 2 days ago and the Broncos are much further away.


Yep.

The Broncos are very far away now, and with more questions then they have had regarding the team since before Elway was there.

broncosteven
04-03-2009, 03:46 PM
You shouldn't write anything, you sound like a dumbass. An NFL owners 1st responsibility is the team, not the fans and City of Denver. The fans and City of Denver will follow a winning franchise.

SMH @ your idiotic logic.

OMG you R hte sUcK!

Denver has had 3 owners since I became a fan in 1973. Owners are just as interchangeable as players and coaches.

I believe the NFL franchise should be the property of the city that it is awarded to.

No owners should be allowed to uproot a franchise like Baltimore, Cleveland, or Houston did.

Owners should do everything they can to make the team better not run them into the ground.

People love their team for many reasons, not because of owners.

If an owner does not think of the fan base and does not make an effort to put a competitive product on the field he has no business being an owner of an NFL franchise.

If an owner puts out an inferior product then it reflects poorly on the city as the name of the City is attached to that franchise.

The best owner in sports is an owner that is out of the press and not involved in controversy's and allowing the Front Offices that know football run the team.

Punisher
04-03-2009, 03:48 PM
True, but 5 of those Superbowls Denver had a certain HOF QB that made them possible.

Since 1993 the SB winning QBs have been
Troy Aikman (3)
Steve Young
Brett Farvre
John Elway (2)
Curt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Tom Brady (3)
Brad Johnson
Ben Roethelisberger (2)
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning

Not too many Kyle Orton's in there. One thing is for sure Chicago now is much, much closer to the SB then they were 2 days ago and the Broncos are much further away.

:tearhair: :tearhair: :tearhair:

Atlas
04-03-2009, 03:51 PM
The best owner in sports is an owner that is out of the press and not involved in controversy's and allowing the Front Offices that know football run the team.

What's funny, is that is what Bowlen used to be. That is why he was considered one of the best owners in sports. Now he thinks he is Jerry Jones.

If Bowlen had his heart set on firing the best coach Denver ever had then he should have hired a GM to hire the next coach of Denver, because he does not make good football decisions. The best football decision he ever made was to let other people make them.

Punisher
04-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Dear Broncos Fans

I know the team will stink this year but can you please come to the games.








That sums up the whole letter.

SouthStndJunkie
04-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Thanks, Pat.

I will sleep better tonight knowing one of your PR guys drafted a blanket letter that you probably glanced over and had sent out to the masses.

I was getting worried there for a bit, but it looks like everything is taken care of.

footstepsfrom#27
04-03-2009, 04:16 PM
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smalltowngrll
04-03-2009, 04:29 PM
The letter didn't just go to season ticket holders. It went to anyone on the Broncos "list"...including the waiting list.

And, my direct flight to Denver JUST got announced from Bend, OR. Now, I'm only 6,700 away from my season tickets! I'm ready for them next year. So, if anyone is unhappy, just bow out of your season tickets...moves me up the list that much faster! ;) After I have this baby, Denver, here I (we) come for all home games!!! Ha! :wiggle:

Honestly, guys....nothing will ever be perfect. Yes, things could be better...but, couldn't they always be better? Heck, if you are already at the top, there's nothing to look forward to or hope for! And, hey, if you are at rock bottom, there's no other way to go than up! Well, unless you are the Raiders....there's never a hope for them!! ROFL!

Hulamau
04-03-2009, 04:30 PM
Mr. Bowlen,

I am a life-long fan of the Denver Broncos and I am utterly dismayed at the state of affairs of this franchise.

I grew up in Billings, Montana and made the maddening drive through the windswept portions of eastern Wyoming on at least 60 occasions since 1990. That’s 16 hours round trip, 960 total hours or 40 days of my life, in a car, going to Denver and I never regretted a minute of it. Every drive to Denver flew by due to the excitement and anticipation of seeing John Elway and the Broncos at Mile High Stadium. This does not count trips I have made to see the Broncos play in San Diego, Oakland/LA (I put my life at risk for those), Minnesota, and Seattle (I was in the stands when TD broke 2K). Again, each a cherished memory even though not all of them turned out how I would have liked. I was there to ring in Invesco Field at Mile High on September 10, 2001 when we beat the Giants and lost Ed McCaffrey for the season. And I made the long drive back that fateful morning of September 11, 2001. My friend and I must have been the only two people in the world who listened to the entirety of the days’ events on the radio, driving through quieted towns along empty roads, even by Wyoming’s standards. Much of my life story and milestones are defined by the accomplishments of my favorite team in all of sports.

I respected the difficult decision to fire a hall of fame coach because you needed to regain control of your team. I did not agree with firing Coach Shanahan but I absolutely understood and respected the move you made. I was excited when Josh McDaniels was announced as our new head coach. Like many my mind began to dance with thoughts of what his offensive game plan could do with the talent the Broncos had amassed on that side of the ball, all centered on Jay Cutler’s sling. We have managed to reload our offense with some of the most promising young talent in the NFL from the offensive line, to Eddie Royal and Brandon Marshall, to our running back by small town approach that was required last season. This offense made the club work. I won’t belabor the statistical prowess and numbers the offense put up. Suffice it to say that in his 3rd year, 2nd as a starter, I believe Jay to have done more with less defensive support than any QB before him.

I wept when we lost Al Wilson, I believe him to be a rare talent and an even rarer personality, especially in today’s NFL. When Al left so did our fire and passion on defense but those are the breaks and life in the NFL. Again, I was thrilled when we brought in Mike Nolan and began making short term moves to address critical needs and, with a solid draft, we could make significant strides forward on the defensive side of the ball and be on the way to the playoffs once again.

The entire saga surrounding a franchise, pro bowl quarterback reeks of ineptitude, inexperience, and good old fashioned prideful arrogance. Coach McDaniels wanted his security blanket at quarterback. Yeah, I get it; he worked with Cassell and has faith in Cassell’s ability to run his offense. Part of being a coach is imparting your knowledge to the players you lead and if McDaniels does not have the self confidence to believe he could accomplish that with Jay Cutler I have to question his ability as a coach. I fully understand his desire to improve the team and that no player is untouchable but there is a way to conduct business with each and every player and their personality and McDaniels’ complete lack of appreciation and understanding of this fundamental fact leads me to question the level of his maturity, I’m 32 years old and this is common knowledge; know your personnel. Through the bumbling efforts of McDaniels and Brian Xanders (who has been conspicuously silent and/or absent which further fuels my waning faith in the leadership structure of this franchise) they released the genie and can not put it back in the bottle. If you did not know about these efforts you are an absentee owner, in which case you could have kept the hall of fame coach, if you did know about these efforts what did McDaniels say to convince you that the franchise is better off abandoning their franchise quarterback that you had previously given so much support? As it stands there is little to no opportunity to find a quarterback of Jay’s caliber and make the improvements to this team that would justify this entire fiasco.

We have fundamentally weakened our offense. Making Denver’s defense mediocre would be a significant accomplishment in one offseason, with Cutler at the helm he would not have needed much more than that to get this club to the playoffs. Now the club is looking at complete mediocrity.

I have held up through recent years through patience, loyalty, and the belief that this franchise had bearing and direction. I am running thin on patience and have lost faith that the franchise has any sense of itself or its future. As for loyalty, the sacred cow of any fan base, I have been disabused of my naiveté. The NFL is a business; I have heard that line more times in the last four weeks than I care to count and I have learned my lesson. My fan loyalty has been taken for granted, in short Mr. Bowlen, you are losing my business. I no longer care for your product. Unless and until you rectify the state of affairs of this franchise I withdraw my unwavering and unquestioned support for all things Broncos. I do not come easily to this decision, my entire life I looked forward to the day when I could hold my son in my arms and tell him of the franchise I grew up adoring; passing along to him the passion and desire that comes with being a fan of the Denver Broncos. I now have my son, I do not, however, have that franchise and that breaks my heart.

I know I am only one and that my withdrawal probably hurts me far more than it will ever hurt you; and that's really the point. At one time I believe you would have cared about losing a fan, any fan because you too were a fan. I don't think you care about that any more.

Bye Bye! :flower:

NYBronco
04-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Good letter from someone (Bowlen) who didn't need to write one.

RaiderH8r
04-03-2009, 05:01 PM
I think the problem is that a lot of you are spoiled....spoiled rotten...which isnt a bad thing for sports fans sometimes but its starting to rear its ugly head

The Broncos are in the top 5 of the All Time NFL franchise rankings...

But hey, who are we to trust people who have a track record of success?

Why don't you try being a Bears fan...ask them how its felt the last 20 years....ask a Lions fan how it feels when football season opens....try being a Jets fan or a Chiefs fan for Gods sake...

For someone who claims to be a fan since the early 80s, jumping off the ship is completely short-sighted and immature...but good riddance

Yep, spoiled rotten. Because until this whole fiasco I had never been embarassed to be a Broncos fan. What happened the past six weeks is worthy of the Lions, Raiders, and all of the other bottom feeders in the NFL. Not the Broncos.

And bite me if you think you're going to play "Who's fan penis is bigger?" with me. I couldn't give a tinker's **** what you think. Yeah, I'm the **** head for expecting the team I admire for its professional conduct, competitive spirit, and attitude to hold true to the standards that made them my favorite team in the first place. Piss off you Kool Aid drinkers. If it were just about locality or exposure or big names I would be a Steelers/Raiders/Cowboys/Skins fan. Its bigger than that ****. The Broncos have always been a club who, even in the down years, carried themselves with a collective pride and professionalism that aren't found in most teams. Even when they were getting shellacked they held their heads high and I could proundly claim I am a fan of the Denver Broncos. 55-10 yeah buddy, f you, that's my team and they played their asses off. But this fiasco is beneath them and beneath me and until Pat gets his **** wired tight I'm off his product. Does that mean I'm done caring? No. I don't think I could pull that off but I will spend a season of Sundays finding something else to do this year. I'm calling Pat out, get your **** right or get the f out.

RaiderH8r
04-03-2009, 05:02 PM
Bye Bye! :flower:

You can get in the line to kiss my balloon knot too.

Popps
04-03-2009, 05:02 PM
I have no idea if that's a real letter, but hopefully Bowlen knows that the real, long-time fans out there know what he's meant to the franchise, and trust his decisions.

RaiderH8r
04-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Good letter from someone (Bowlen) who didn't need to write one.

That's good because he didn't write it.

DB Doom
04-03-2009, 06:11 PM
This thead is the best of all. The drama queens have hit the sweet spot with this one. Please keep it up. Can anyone top Raiderh8r's heart rendering exposition on how his son's life experience will be ldiminished due to his choice to abandon his Broncos fandom, and somehow put this on Bowlen.

Or can anyone be more obtuse than Lex when he lamely and erroneously tries to equate dedicating a Super Bowl trophy that was 14 years in the making to John Elway with refusing to let a third year QB try to hijack your franchise on the false pretense that he was mistreated because trade talks occured about him.

Any takers on trying to out-do Broncosteven as he somehow confuses NFL franchise ownership with some service provided by a municipality. I'm sure he'll be coming around with a petition to get a "bring Cutler back" referendum on the next ballot. NFL teams, after all, "belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise."

These are the podium standers right now, but this is the Mane and I have no doubt that someone somewhere, can channel their inner drama queen and rightfully replace one of them at the top of this glorious thread.

Great name. Great post. Great Job.

Casper Bronco
04-03-2009, 06:17 PM
Tell that to John Elway Pat

Punisher
04-03-2009, 06:19 PM
Well I feel just like that fan in Major League 2
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watermock
04-03-2009, 06:29 PM
All I can say is we got pretty decent unkown quanity. I'm glad we have an experienced coach, GM and the Goodmans to utilize them, oh wait....

Bubby Brister days here we come!

broncofan2438
04-03-2009, 06:39 PM
Dear Broncos Fans

I know the team will stink this year but can you please come to the games.








That sums up the whole letter.

Exactly

DBroncos4life
04-03-2009, 06:52 PM
I'm sure we will find a new QB to get behind someday but we really didn't need to yet. With 4 first round picks in the next two years should make us a better team if done right, but I can't help think we lost a very very good QB.

Sassy
04-03-2009, 09:05 PM
dear pat,

you should have hired cower

doc b

;) YEP!

fdf
04-03-2009, 10:03 PM
The Broncos are not about Pat Bowlen or Paul Bowlen or names on facitilies. They belong to the city and to the fans of the franchise.

Other than the fact that your letter is completely incorrect, it's a great letter.

tonngo0
04-03-2009, 10:35 PM
Great post Raiderh8r

I second that !!! I think I have better thing to do in my life then watching Bowlen and McD not being honest. I don't like the childish of Cutler either. Raiderh8r, your letter is how I felt too. Thanks all

BroncoBuff
04-03-2009, 11:17 PM
Dear Broncos Fan,

I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.

One of my directives to Josh McDanilesDaniels upon his hiring was that he considereverything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.

I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.

Well, the case is closed, and I was right all along.

This letter from the man himself is like DNA evidence. He talks about Josh this, Josh that. Mentions Xanders once, and then merely as a tack-on to mentioning Josh.

No two ways, Josh is completely in charge.

Hmmmmm ... I wonder if all those who shouted me down on that point are gonna cop to the clear words of Bowlen himself? Josh said "all football decisions go through me" (or something to that effect). I stated - correctly as it turns out now - that this was a power statement asserting that he is in full control of the football side.

Looks like Bowlen agrees with me. ;D

rastaman
04-04-2009, 01:22 PM
If that's really from Bowlen, nothing but class. Thank you sir for grabbing the reigns and attempting to restore pride to an organization that was mired in mediocrity and stale-thinking.

Will McDaniels turn out to be a great hire? Only time will tell. But you had the courage to make that step.

You and Coach McDaniels have my full support.:notworthy

The question is, why didn't Bowlen get in front of all this crap ahead of time....like in the first 24 hours when this crap got started? The answer is, Bowlen was in on the Cutler trade fiasco from the very beginning. Anyone who thinks McDaniels acted alone are pretty gulible and blind at best.

The minute the trade rumors hit the air ways Pat Bowlen should have issued a press conference with Cutler and McDaniels by his side and stated for the world to see and hear "Jay Cutler" is the Franchise QB and will be a Bronco for the foreseeable future.

Truth is, the Cutler trade was green-lighted and approved by Pat Bowlen....no way does a 32 year old unproven rookie HC start trade talks-feelers concerning Cutler w/o the owners permission.

Bowlin trying to reach out to Cutler by phone or tex messaging two weeks later is just shows how totally disengenuous Bowlen has been during this entire debacle.