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HEAV
03-24-2009, 08:35 PM
Several weeks ago, I called one of my NFL sources for information regarding the free agent market. I received what I expected, and something I didn't: a heads up about a "possible three-way trade in the near future."

I figured my source was talking about a deal outside of Denver; because clearly if they were holding a secret about a grain of salt in the Rocky Mountains my source would have spilled the beans even about that right then and there right?

Nope.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think that vague tip weeks ago was about Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, head coach Josh McDaniels, and the "Real World" episode airing about them daily on a television set now near you.

Unfortunately, the dots were finally connected for me in our conversation just (yes just) yesterday afternoon.

"Sorry, I'm so sorry Josina. I couldn't tell you at the time. [The secret trade talks] were too high up then. But, when I knew it was about to get out I tried to call you. Unfortunately I didn't have the phone with your number in it right then and there," my source explained pitifully.

Smile.

Clearly my source forgot about this radical invention called 411. You dial it on the phone nearest to you, and ask the operator to connect you to KDVR FOX 31 in Denver.

Lol.

After I finished yanking their chain for a good ten minutes over the phone, my source relented and revealed some rather interesting details about the now infamous Cutler trade that didn't materialize, and, their primary insight about Denver's A-list key players.

The first thing the source wanted to emphasize without hesitation was the fact that McDaniels definitely had his hand in the cookie jar.

Even though McDaniels characterized the Cutler trade talks as just “conversations,” in a recent interview with the NFL Network, and said that, “there wasn’t anything that we were trying to push hard to get through,” my source begged to differ in unbridled amusement.

"[Denver] was definitely negotiating. They were trying to get a trade in place and there is no doubt about that," said the league source.

“From Minnesota to Detroit to Tampa, although they got in the game late, Denver was trying to get something in place.”

As for why McDaniels was so hard pressed to roll Cutler out on the next Rocky Mountain train to “Anywhere but Here-land” my source (with primary knowledge of these conversations) said there were consistent themes in the coach’s concerns about Cutler.

(Again this was relayed to my ears, from their ears. The following is what was heard by my source in these trade whispers, not what FOX31 cites as definite facts about Cutler.)

The source said there are concerns about Cutler’s consumption of alcohol, and “that he’s not that sharp.”

“That scared the crap out of McDaniels,” the source said.

The source expanded their perspective of McDaniels’ concerns of Cutler learning and working in the Broncos’ new offensive scheme.

“This is a very complex situation. You have to be so smart to play his [McDaniels’] offense. [Tom] Brady and [Matt] Cassel are exceedingly smart quarterbacks. They are not the best athletes in the world but they both make really intelligent decisions. Cutler has a canon for an arm, but he doesn’t manage the game like those guys in critical situations. Brady and Cassel are workaholics. They have the stature, and they have the ability,” said the source.

Well everyone can argue about who they feel is the better quarterback between Cutler and Cassel now.

But at the end of the day, when it comes to the root of all of this drama in Denver, the source told FOX31 to point at New England and Kansas City.

“ Belichick had first round offers and then some for Cassel. Believe me, a lot of people knew that was on the table. But look at what Matt ended up going to Kansas City for nothing. (Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel went to the Chiefs in exchange for a 2009 second round draft pick.) Trust me Bill wanted to pull the trigger on this one sooner rather than later. Then [Scott] Pioli [the Chiefs new General Manager and former Patriots personnel executive] was scared [edit]-less that he wasn’t going to end up with Cassel for a moment there because before he left [New England] Scott was [edit] sure he was going to get Matt-that’s why I feel he took the job in Kansas City. I am convinced it was [Belichick’s and Pioli’s master plan for [Pioli] to get Cassel all along when you watch how this played out.”

As for why Belichick ended up giving the Chiefs and Pioli such a sweetheart deal, the source opined some more.

“At the time all of this was going down, there’s was a part of me that felt like Belichick really wanted to take credit for Cassel. You see, I think if Matt goes to Kansas City, there is a chance he won’t be as good in the Chiefs’ system. Obviously if Cassel ended up in Denver, McDaniels can take more ownership of Matt’s success.”

But the league source told FOX31 sports that in his opinion Belichick took a lesser deal for Cassel in part to disassociate McDaniels’ work in Cassel’s accomplishments.

“I think Bill wants people to know that Brady and Cassel are successes because of his system. You see every other coach that left the Patriots has basically fallen flat on their face.”

As for who McDaniels will scout to replace Cutler if the Pro Bowl quarterback leaves?

“It will definitely have to be somebody who is smart enough to understand the intricacies of his system.”

And if Cutler is smart enough, he’ll make sure he convinces McDaniels he’s the guy not just physically but mentally as well.

“McDaniels has all the leverage he needs because Cutler is under contract, period. If Cutler tries to force his way out of there, plays for another team and performs poorly after all of this drama, his value will tank tremendously. Hopefully he decides to go back, but right now he is looking like an [edit].”

http://community.kdvr.com/_Source-Secrets-Inside-Cutler-Trade-Talks/blog/220410/96399.html


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[B]The source said there are concerns about Cutler’s consumption of alcohol, and “that he’s not that sharp.”

“That scared the crap out of McDaniels,” the source said.

One again Khan nails a scoop!

Hercules Rockefeller
03-24-2009, 08:43 PM
Wow, that revealed a whole lot of nothing. Quality "scoop" by Josina, just like most the crap she reports.

Again, we hear that Belichick takes a lesser deal not to improve his team, but to disassociate any success Cassel might have from McDaniels. If I'm Bob Kraft, that's criminal that my HC decides to take less than he can get to improve my team because of an ego trip.

HEAV
03-24-2009, 08:46 PM
Wow, that revealed a whole lot of nothing. Quality "scoop" by Josina, just like most the crap she reports.

Again, we hear that Belichick takes a lesser deal not to improve his team, but to disassociate any success Cassel might have from McDaniels. If I'm Bob Kraft, that's criminal that my HC decides to take less than he can get to improve my team because of an ego trip.

Ya, I still think she's trouble...not to mention was getting down with Javon.

theAPAOps5
03-24-2009, 08:48 PM
And the alcohol rears its ugly head again.....

broncosteven
03-24-2009, 08:50 PM
How many threads are there on this?

Hercules Rockefeller
03-24-2009, 08:53 PM
How many threads are there on this?

2 that were started at the exact same time

theAPAOps5
03-24-2009, 08:55 PM
How many threads are there on this?

Seriously they were both started at the exact same time.

HEAV
03-24-2009, 08:58 PM
How many threads are there on this?

Well if this place had Mod's... a merge could happen.

Broncoman13
03-24-2009, 09:03 PM
Seems to be a recurring theme. One of several reasons I would be happy with a couple firsts and a player. Plus Cutler acts like a dick too often.

eddie mac
03-24-2009, 09:07 PM
Consider the source.

Oh wait a minute, the writer's a know nothing bint and the source is unnamed yet again.

And of course Belicheat turned down 1st rd picks and then some for a 2nd rounder.

Get ta **** outta here ya daft woman.

SoDak Bronco
03-24-2009, 09:09 PM
Cutler is so dumb he got a 26 on his wonderlic

maher_tyler
03-24-2009, 09:09 PM
Seems to be a recurring theme. One of several reasons I would be happy with a couple firsts and a player. Plus Cutler acts like a dick too often.

You've met him personally or know someone who has to confirm he's an asshole??

Atwater His Ass
03-24-2009, 09:09 PM
Consider the source.

Oh wait a minute, the writer's a know nothing bint and the source is unnamed yet again.

And of course Belicheat turned down 1st rd picks and then some for a 2nd rounder.

Get ta **** outta here ya daft woman.

Indeed. Let's turn down multiple first's for a second, throw in a LB, and call it day just for my ego. No way.

The crap about Cutler drinking is just flat out pot stirring. Most 25 year old's go out and get drunk with their friends. Shocker.

Atlas
03-24-2009, 09:12 PM
Ya, I still think she's trouble...not to mention was getting down with Javon.

So how does Josie Anderson get her sources to talk?? I wonder.
http://www.kdvr.com/media/photo/2009-01/44679837.jpg

GreatBronco16
03-24-2009, 09:19 PM
So how does Josie Anderson get her sources to talk?? I wonder.
http://www.kdvr.com/media/photo/2009-01/44679837.jpg

Well if that isn't a man face, I don't know what is.

Bronco X
03-24-2009, 09:22 PM
I bet she has a forked lizard tongue.

Taco John
03-24-2009, 09:27 PM
You guys are brutal. Josina has actually put some decent stuff out there.

HEAV
03-24-2009, 09:28 PM
So how does Josie Anderson get her sources to talk?? I wonder.
http://www.kdvr.com/media/photo/2009-01/44679837.jpg

:-X

Broncoman13
03-24-2009, 09:34 PM
You've met him personally or know someone who has to confirm he's an a-hole??
Nope never met him. Try watching his mannerisms though, kind of a dead giveaway!

Hamrob
03-24-2009, 09:40 PM
You guys are brutal. Josina has actually put some decent stuff out there.I'm sure she's put alot out alright...as for it being decent...I won't tell!

lostknight
03-24-2009, 09:42 PM
Great. So now we have someone inside the organization calling Jay a drunk. This is really the right tact to take after the coach tries to mend bridges (that he himself burned).

That's a great though for the future. Free agents - come to denver where we can badmouth you, and slime you in the press if it suits our purposes.

Will someone wake me up when some grow ups appear at Dove Valley.

ton80
03-24-2009, 09:52 PM
As a rule, I don't give credence to anything that comes out of a woman's mouth when it comes to sports.

This article emphasizes/underscores my rule.

Hamrob
03-24-2009, 09:59 PM
Yeah, Jay graduates from Vandy....scores high on his wondurlic and is too stupid to grasp Mickey-D's offense. Yeah, I'm buying it alright. you bet, Tom Brady is a regualar Einstein...and Mr. USC backup is a road scolar!

Oh, and that Shanny offense must have been abc's and 1,2,3'a right?

Hamrob
03-24-2009, 10:04 PM
Oh, and while we're at it....who won more head to head games between Belecheat and Shanny? Does anyone know the answer to that question?

I'm just wondering....since we seem be haling everything Patriots these day!

Broncojef
03-24-2009, 10:45 PM
Oh, and while we're at it....who won more head to head games between Belecheat and Shanny? Does anyone know the answer to that question?

I'm just wondering....since we seem be haling everything Patriots these day!

In fairness to Bellicheat and McD they seemed to wipe our ass decently in the first half of our match with them this year. I'm really glad they eased up in the second half cause 41-7 on national television was pretty brutal as it was. That game coulda been 100-7 if they wanted it to be, we were embarrassed (at least I was) so please stop with the whos better than who.

outdoor_miner
03-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Great. So now we have someone inside the organization calling Jay a drunk. This is really the right tact to take after the coach tries to mend bridges (that he himself burned).

That's a great though for the future. Free agents - come to denver where we can badmouth you, and slime you in the press if it suits our purposes.

Will someone wake me up when some grow ups appear at Dove Valley.

Good lord, name one reason why anyone in the Broncos would want to leak this. It accomplishes nothing good for the organization.

SouthStndJunkie
03-24-2009, 11:04 PM
If there is any shard of truth to McDaniels being concerned about Cutler's drinking and Cutler catches wind of this....he will tell Denver to go **** themselves permanently....you don't air/leak dirty laundry like this.

Popps
03-24-2009, 11:11 PM
This whole story sounds like it's iffy. Some I believe, some I'm not so sure.

But, I do wonder how many messengers we're going to shoot around here before people start realizing something might be up with the kid.

Archer81
03-24-2009, 11:13 PM
If there is any shard of truth to McDaniels being concerned about Cutler's drinking and Cutler catches wind of this....he will tell Denver to go **** themselves permanently....you don't air/leak dirty laundry like this.


dejavu.


:Broncos:

SouthStndJunkie
03-24-2009, 11:17 PM
dejavu.


:Broncos:

Have to get my take in on multiple threads these days.

TheDave
03-24-2009, 11:26 PM
(Again this was relayed to my ears, from their ears. The following is what was heard by my source in these trade whispers, not what FOX31 cites as definite facts about Cutler.)

The source said there are concerns about Cutler’s consumption of alcohol, and “that he’s not that sharp.”

“That scared the crap out of McDaniels,” the source said.

FWIW the section above has now been edited out of her blog...

Paladin
03-24-2009, 11:53 PM
[QUOTE=Hamrob;2351249]a road scolar!QUOTE]

Hilarious!