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Sassy
03-24-2009, 12:20 PM
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The fight of our lives...

Sassy
03-24-2009, 12:22 PM
FLOOD UPDATE: 'We will beat this challenge,' flood battle continues as officials ask volunteers to keep fighting
FARGO – A significant turnout by volunteers cranked out 450,000 sandbags in the past 24 hours, boosting confidence of city, county and state officials that the city will hold back the Red River’s rising floodwaters.
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FARGO – A significant turnout by volunteers cranked out 450,000 sand-bags in the past 24 hours, boosting confidence of city, county and state officials that the city will hold back the Red River’s rising floodwaters.

The river at Fargo surpassed major flood stage of 30 feet at about 8 a.m. and had risen another 3 inches by 9:15 a.m. The National Weather Service maintained its prediction that the Red River will crest at 39 to 41 feet by Friday. The service's Web site shows the river hitting 40 feet early Saturday.

A flurry of activity helped button up the city and many of its subdivisions, and concentrated efforts today turn to specific areas of concern.

Officials who were gathered for a morning briefing broke into applause when Fargo Enterprise Director Bruce Grubb said volunteers had churned out 450,000 sandbags in about a day, surpassing the goal of 300,000 per day.

“Now, we need to do that for at least a couple more days,” he said, adding sandbag production will continue through at least Saturday to build up reserves.

“We really appreciate it and keep turning out,” Gov. John Hoeven said of the massive volunteer turnout Monday.

A combination of North Dakota National Guard soldiers, contractors, public employees and volunteers plan to address south Fargo areas today near Rose Coulee, South River Road, 32nd to 40th avenues south.

On the city’s north side, workers will build dikes at 37th Avenue North and Kandi Lane by Trollwood Park.

“We’re diking where we’ve never diked before,” Fargo City Engineer Mark Bittner said.

In addition, the city is looking at building contingency levees near City Hall, the Oak Grove neighborhood, at South River Road to protect the water plant, River Drive south of 32nd Avenue South to about 40th Avenue South, and along Rose Creek south of 40th Avenue, Bittner said.

“As we get the sandbags done, we’ll have to make an inspection of those backline defenses and make sure we’re comfortable with them or uncomfortable with them, and then we can decide how we want to proceed,” he said.

Volunteers bolstered Fargo’s chances of beating this spring’s flood, but officials again called for more people to help.

“We had a great day yesterday,” Mayor Dennis Walaker said. “The good news this morning is the sun is shining.”

About 660 North Dakota National Guard soldiers and airmen are aiding the effort, and hundreds more from Minnesota are doing the same on the east side of the river.

Walaker and others praised volunteers, especially the turnout by high school and college students, and thanked those who traveled to help from areas of North Dakota and Minnesota.

“Anyone wondering about the future of our nation, look at these young people and the job they have done,” said U.S. Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D.

Officials were encouraged that the Red River at Wahpeton, N.D., appeared headed for a crest of about 18 feet, which would be almost 1 feet lower than the 1997 crest.

National Weather Service meteorologist Dan Riddle said the river hadn’t officially crested at Wahpeton, but from 8 a.m. to 9 a.m. it barely rose from 17.49 feet to 17.50 feet. South of Wahpeton, the Bois de Sioux River near Dorn, Minn., and the Rabbit River near Campbell, Minn., both crested overnight, he said.

“It’s really slowing down, and it’s pretty much about to (crest),” he said of the Red at Wahpeton. “It may not officially stop rising until overnight or early Wednesday morning.”

Still a major concern for Fargo, Riddle said, is water from the Wild Rice River at Abercrombie, which was at 26.5 feet at 8:15 a.m. – 8 feet over flood stage – and is projected to hit a record 29 feet by Thursday morning.

“That water does have to get into the Red eventually,” he said.

Cass County Engineer Keith Berndt said levee-building operations between the Wild Rice River and south Fargo have gone well, and the county hopes to finish dikes today to protect rural subdivisions in the 76th Avenue South area.

He reported that sand-bagging efforts continue to operate in the area to save homes from both overland flooding and the Wild Rice and Red rivers.

Officials said they hope to hear about a presidential disaster declaration today. Gov. John Hoeven said North Dakota has asked for an expedited declaration with 90 percent federal reimbursement for costs. Typically, such declarations don’t come until after a disaster, he said.

The mood of leaders remained optimistic as they urged residents to keep up their efforts. Walaker and City Commissioner Tim Mahoney said that, contrary to a Salvation Army official’s statement Monday that “fear is setting in,” they saw none.

“We don’t see any fear,” Walaker said. “We just see people working very hard.”

“It is our firm belief that we will take on this challenge and we will beat this challenge, and we will work as hard as we can do to do that, and I don’t see anybody giving up,” Mahoney said.

Fargo Police Chief Keith Ternes asked motorists to yield to truck drivers who are transporting sandbags, and also to slow down to avoid sandbags that have fallen off trucks into the roadway. Some roads are becoming slippery from dirt and sand being hauled.

Ternes also asked residents with non-emergency questions not to call 911.

Mahoney said there is an organized effort to fight the flood, and asked residents to be patient. He said those who still need sand to protect their homes will receive it.

Crews were finishing filling Hesco portable floodwalls with sand around Drain 27 in the Prairie Rose area and Fargo’s Timberline and El Zagal areas, and another wall was being put up along Fifth Street South on the north and south sides of I-94, Fargo Public Works Operations Manager Al Weigel said. About five more miles of Hesco walls were scheduled to arrive today from Louisiana.

“It’s really a quick way of putting up a wall, and it’s worked well,” Mahoney said.

Sandbagging was about 60 percent complete in Rose Creek and 40 percent complete in River Drive, and volunteers will be directed today to Oak Creek, Meadow Creek and Copperfield Court, City Administrator Pat Zavoral said.

“So our focus is still south Fargo,” he said.

The city also planned to begin constructing a flood closure on University Drive from Rose Creek to 52nd Avenue South, Bittner said.

About 700 to 800 students from Grand Forks and Hatton were expected to arrive in Fargo today to help with sandbagging, Zavoral said. North Dakota State University had 3,200 volunteers come through its volunteer center so far, and classes will remain canceled until further notice, an NDSU official said.

OBF1
03-24-2009, 12:29 PM
I wish the best to all of you in the Dakota's and Minnesota.

I am pretty happy knowing that when we have a disaster in California, we have zero notice and just go with the shaking or baking.

CoBear23
03-24-2009, 12:39 PM
As a University of North Dakota alum, my heart is sinking watching this unfold from afar. To all of my friends, all of your amazing families, and everyone in the Red River Valley. You are all in my prayers.

There are so many outstanding qualities possessed by the people of ND and MN. The best of these are a tireless work ethic and unheard of sense of community. Knowing that the those working hard sandbagging and volunteering possess these traits is why I believe that they will succedd.

God Bless all of you, and God bless the Sioux

ND Bronco Fan
03-24-2009, 12:40 PM
Not sure if these links will work but I will try anyways.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30119695&id=1406160083

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30131082&id=1239533986#/photo.php?pid=30131082&id=1239533986

I live in Bismarck and its hard to do it justice with photos but there anywhere near a river or a creek is flooding right now, never seen anything like it.

http://bismarcktribune.com/articles/2009/03/24/news/update/doc49c7c0fb2b198508260893.txt

Usually the Red River Valley gets it the worst but I can speak for a dozen western north dakota towns and say that its just as bad out here.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=bis&gage=biwn8&view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

Just to give you an idea of how much the river has come up.

Sassy
03-24-2009, 12:43 PM
Not sure if these links will work but I will try anyways.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30119695&id=1406160083

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30131082&id=1239533986#/photo.php?pid=30131082&id=1239533986

I live in Bismarck and its hard to do it justice with photos but there anywhere near a river or a creek is flooding right now, never seen anything like it.

http://bismarcktribune.com/articles/2009/03/24/news/update/doc49c7c0fb2b198508260893.txt

Usually the Red River Valley gets it the worst but I can speak for a dozen western north dakota towns and say that its just as bad out here.

Stay safe there too! We aren't getting the blizzard like you are...but we will be getting up to 3 inches of blowing snow tonight on top of this.

Sassy
03-24-2009, 12:53 PM
View from my bedroom!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9259.jpg

Sassy
03-24-2009, 12:54 PM
Those are another 2-3 feet of sandbags on top of a permanent dike that is already protecting us to 41.5 feet.

CoBear23
03-24-2009, 12:56 PM
Are you in Fargo or GFK Sassy?

Sassy
03-24-2009, 01:03 PM
Are you in Fargo or GFK Sassy?

Fargo

Smiling Assassin27
03-24-2009, 01:04 PM
Hang tough, y'all. We're praying for you here.

Miss I.
03-24-2009, 01:18 PM
All my prayers and best wishes to all in the area. And sassy if ya need an overseas sanctuary to come hang out I am your girl. Please take care to all and is you need care packages and the like I can send what I can.

Rohirrim
03-24-2009, 01:31 PM
Damn, that's a shame, Sassy. Hang in there.

Blueflame
03-24-2009, 02:00 PM
Stay safe, Sass!

Sassy
03-24-2009, 04:47 PM
The way this city is working together is unbelievable...especially the students from the Jr high-college...IMPRESSIVE EFFORT! Wow...just wow!

Sassy
03-24-2009, 05:41 PM
bump!

bronco610
03-24-2009, 05:45 PM
Prayers and hang in there Sassy. Get Hogans butt out there to do some sandbags !!!!!!

ayjackson
03-24-2009, 05:47 PM
Hi Sassy, thinking of you here in Winnipeg. Since 1997, Winnipeg and Souther Manitoba have done a lot of work on dikes and floodways, and we hear that Grand Forks has too. One thing we seem to hear is that Fargo has not done much to improve flood containment systems since '97, what's your perspective on that?

Bronco Yoda
03-24-2009, 05:56 PM
Stay safe everyone. Sassy, are you going to head for high ground?

cutthemdown
03-24-2009, 06:04 PM
Those are another 2-3 feet of sandbags on top of a permanent dike that is already protecting us to 41.5 feet.

Wow that's scary. Here in so calif we have to worry about the big one but at least we don't have to sit an wait for it. Floods have got to be worst, wondering if it will breach the levy, should we leave, stay etc.

I will be praying for the people in that area of the country. Also people set aside some cash if you can, they may need some charity when this is over. Remember people we are all in this together. The good thing is we are a hige country and it's doubtful disasters will hit us all at same time, but it's probable we will all face disaster at some point. If we all help each other out when they do hit then we can all make it together.

Does anyone have a link that is set up for donations yet? Or is that premature? How bad is this going to be or are you just worried at this point?

Requiem
03-24-2009, 06:18 PM
Don't forget to pray for me guys, I'm in Fargo too! Been sandbaggin' two days straight. It is nuts!

Hogan11
03-24-2009, 07:02 PM
Prayers and hang in there Sassy. Get Hogans butt out there to do some sandbags !!!!!!

I've been getting updates from the field since the crisis began.....if I could be baggin' I would. The river crested below what was forcasted at one place already, so I'm hoping that'll be the case in Fargo as well.

Thoughts go out to Ryan & Sarah's crew as well....stay safe guys.

kdissette
03-24-2009, 08:34 PM
Im in Fargo right now.....Its bad on the river side, but not to the point where we need to evacuate teh city yet. we still go about our business during the day....we just go sandbag whenever we have a free moment.

Sassy
03-24-2009, 08:48 PM
The river is about 15-20 feet from my window....All we can do is pray!

Sassy
03-24-2009, 08:51 PM
Wow that's scary. Here in so calif we have to worry about the big one but at least we don't have to sit an wait for it. Floods have got to be worst, wondering if it will breach the levy, should we leave, stay etc.

I will be praying for the people in that area of the country. Also people set aside some cash if you can, they may need some charity when this is over. Remember people we are all in this together. The good thing is we are a hige country and it's doubtful disasters will hit us all at same time, but it's probable we will all face disaster at some point. If we all help each other out when they do hit then we can all make it together.

Does anyone have a link that is set up for donations yet? Or is that premature? How bad is this going to be or are you just worried at this point?

Thanks so much much for the concern!
I'm guessing Red Cross is a a good one for donations at this point if you are able. They are providing water/food for the sandbagger....

Sassy
03-24-2009, 08:54 PM
Don't forget to pray for me guys, I'm in Fargo too! Been sandbaggin' two days straight. It is nuts!

You at Sandbag central or the Dome?
Doesn't really matter...we may not agree on things, but when push comes to shove we all are in this disaster together!

watermock
03-24-2009, 09:14 PM
From the "Save the Bullheads Alliance".

"Resistance is futile, you shall become absorbed...nature is taking it's revenge...".

Blueflame
03-24-2009, 11:57 PM
The river is about 15-20 feet from my window....All we can do is pray!

Yikes! :pray:

Popps
03-25-2009, 12:14 AM
Stay safe you guys. Don't **** around. Just get the hell to higher ground and cross your fingers that your stuff stays safe.

Wish you guys the best. Keep us updated.

Sassy
03-25-2009, 03:20 AM
Would Mother Nature cut us a break already...3 inches of blowing snow and it just keeps coming! If we had to evacuate the city, it's going to be a major nightmare. The roads are all ice pretty much across the state...and some of it's blizzard conditions.

watermock
03-25-2009, 03:27 AM
Get some survival gear ready.

Go to higher ground, even if it is a higher building.

Sassy
03-25-2009, 09:53 AM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9263.jpg

Sassy
03-25-2009, 09:54 AM
The dike is there...snow covered!

Requiem
03-25-2009, 12:34 PM
You at Sandbag central or the Dome?
Doesn't really matter...we may not agree on things, but when push comes to shove we all are in this disaster together!

I've been at both. I've spent most of the time at the Dome, but I'll probably go over to SBC sometime later today and do some work. I usually go to the Dome in the evenings with NDSU Student Government. I'm sore as **** right now, but help is help. I hope you're staying safe.

That snow really sucked last night.

Sassy
03-25-2009, 08:20 PM
Yeah....I helped too...but I'm stressed. I'm taking the "chicken" way out...flying out to Phoenix at 12 tomorrow.

Sassy
03-25-2009, 08:21 PM
Red River is now projected to crest at 41 feet on Saturday! The highest it's ever been. Please pray the dikes hold! (flood stage is 18 feet!)

jbiel
03-25-2009, 09:57 PM
I have also been tossing bags for 2 days straight. Just got home tonight. Starting to get pretty nervous. Hopefully these dikes hold. Probably spend tomorrow getting everything out of the basement.

Sassy
03-26-2009, 05:47 AM
Red River at Fargo now predicted to crest Saturday at 41 feet
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Walaker is concerned about sandbag dikes volunteers made without supervision. "I hope they remember their skills from '97," he says.
The Red River at Fargo is now expected to crest at 41 feet at 1:00 Saturday afternoon.

At an afternoon news conference, Fargo Mayor Dennis Walaker said a new crest prediction of a 41 foot crest at the Red River in Fargo on Saturday has him taking-on a more cautious, but still optimistic, tone.

"We want to win this," Walaker said. "We want to win this badly."

At the same time, Walaker showed faith in and respect for the updated National Weather Service forecast. "I don't care how old you are," he said. "You've never seen anything like this in the Valley."

"The hope for 39 feet is over," he added. "We have to plan for 41 feet Saturday. You need to start moving stuff up from the basement."

To do that, city crews will start adding to dikes, up to 43 feet. That means the city needs another round of volunteers to help make another 300,000 sandbags in the next 24 hours.

Later today, at 5:00, city leaders will hold another news conference to outline contingency plans, which may include planning for the possibility of evacuations. "We have to do that," Walaker said, "even though we are confident we'll beat this."

Fargo Police Chief Keith Ternes warned people to stay off of dikes. "We are done asking people to stay away," he said. "We will be making arrests."

Earlier Wednesday, Cass County Sheriff Paul Laney used similar terminology, saying officers would arrest anyone who may be sightseeing in the Oxbow area, where the Coast Guard was assisting in rescuing people from their homes.

At a news conference this morning, Walaker said the main worry in Fargo's flood fight remains the predicted record crest of the Wild Rice Rive

In all his years of floodfighting, Walaker said "I've never seen the level of protection we have."

Police continue to escort flatbed trucks, delivering sandbags where they are needed.

National Guard members and Fargo Police will be walking dikes, inspecting them and looking for leaks.

Sassy
03-26-2009, 05:54 AM
http://www.valleynewslive.tv/artman2/uploads/1/Sandbagging_-_3-25-09.jpg

Sassy
03-26-2009, 05:55 AM
In race against river, Fargo pulls together
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The sandbagging effort has drawn football players, soldiers, high school students, and children. AP
As the swelling Red River lapped within 30 feet of his back door, Carlis Kramer's property resembled nothing so much as a bustling construction site.

In a well-ordered ballet, four people loaded sandbags, four others hauled them to the house and another person stacked them into a dike.

This is how Fargo responds to the threat of record flooding: Hundreds of people from all walks of life have joined forces to shield the community from the rising river, racing to fill 2 million sandbags.

The effort has drawn football players, soldiers, high school students, even a Microsoft engineer - all fearful of enduring another disaster like the devastating floods of 1997.

"A friend of mine brought his neighbor's kids, and friends of family bring boyfriends and girlfriends," Kramer said.

The 1997 floods forced tens of thousands of people to flee homes in North Dakota, Minnesota and southern Canada in one of the costliest and largest flood evacuations in U.S. history before Hurricane Katrina. The disaster killed 11 people in the Dakotas and Minnesota and caused an estimated $4.1 billion in damage.

This year, the river has been swollen by heavier-than-average winter snows, combined with an early freeze last fall that locked a lot of moisture into the soil. The threat has been made worse by spring rains.

The river was expected to crest in Fargo late Friday. As sandbagging continued in Fargo and neighboring Moorhead, residents' hopes were raised by word of a lower-than-expected crest about 30 miles upstream.

The 18-foot crest forecast for Wahpeton, and its cross-river neighbor, Breckenridge, was well within both cities' flood protection.

President Barack Obama declared North Dakota a federal disaster area, which means the federal government will pay 75 percent of state and local government costs for the flood fight. North Dakota Gov. John Hoeven said the state is grateful for the help.

In Fargo, Noah Addy was among dozens of volunteers who gathered around huge sand piles at the Fargodome indoor football stadium to shovel sand into bags.

While most workers needed two hands to drag the bags onto piles, the muscular Addy tossed them like they were pillows.

A native of Ghana, he moved to Fargo about eight years ago for college. Now an engineer for Microsoft, he did not hesitate when the company offered its Fargo employees time off to help.

"I didn't experience the 1997 flood, but everybody told me how bad it was, so I feel that helping is the right thing to do," Addy said.

Not far away, near a home in south Fargo, Phil Hansen handled sandbags as easily as Addy.

Hansen grew up in North Dakota, then went on to play pro football for the Buffalo Bills. In his playing days, Hansen teamed with Bruce Smith to form one of the NFL's best pass-rushing duos.

On Tuesday, Hansen's mouth was bloody from the work.

"I bit my tongue, and I haven't stopped bleeding for two hours," said Hansen, who now lives in nearby Detroit Lakes, Minn. "It feels good to help, though."

Some people nearest the river said they would stay no matter how bad conditions got.

Michael Hagan was caked in mud as he prepared to jack up his trailer beyond the reach of floodwaters.

"No one's going to run around here," he said. "They'll stick around and help each other out. That's how it works around here."

The prospect of staying throughout the flood actually brought a smile to JoAnn Gray's face as friends and neighbors helped fill sandbags in her front yard.

"In '97, I had three kids in diapers," and had to leave as floodwaters approached. This time, her family, friends, and neighbors filled sandbags until midnight, with her children doing some of the work.

Still, Gray became somber when discussing what would happen if the dike failed. "My kids have their bags packed," she said.

Out-of-towners flocked to the Fargo area, looking for some way to help. From Grand Forks, the town hardest hit by the 1997 floods, came hundreds of high school and college students.

Pam and Mark Moret came from Minneapolis to help sandbag in her old Fargo neighborhood.

"We came up in 1997. So I guess we come up and help sandbag every 12 years whether we need it or not," Pam said.

The Morets were sandbagging behind the house of Scott McLaughlin, whose well-manicured lawn had turned into a muddy mess after being trampled by a sandbag-assembly line of about 50 people.

He said there were volunteers from Minneapolis, Grand Forks, and St. Cloud, most of whom he did not know.

"It's just unbelievable how the people have turned out to help strangers," McLaughlin said.

Kramer, the Fargo homeowner, said the 1997 flood created bonds between residents that could help save Fargo from another disaster.

When he moved into his home in 1992, he went four or five years without even knowing his neighbors. Then the flood struck.

"It's funny how you bond and people don't forget," he said.

OrangeRising
03-26-2009, 06:59 AM
41 feet!!!! My God. I work in the resource management of the Bureau of Land Management in Ohio and the fear here is for flooding after an extreme winter, but 41 feet is incomprehensible.

It's unimaginable heartbreak I've seen a dozen times when people are forced to leave their homes and their belongings to move to safety, but please do so and quickly. When rivers crest, it's immediate and disastrous, almost like a tsunami.

God Bless all you people. Wow.

Sassy
03-26-2009, 07:01 AM
I am trying to get out of Fargo. Blizzard warnings in Denver and that's part of my flight ugh.

claymore
03-26-2009, 07:07 AM
I prayed for Requiem to help fill sandbags.

Beantown Bronco
03-26-2009, 07:10 AM
41 feet!!!! My God. I work in the resource management of the Bureau of Land Management in Ohio and the fear here is for flooding after an extreme winter, but 41 feet is incomprehensible.


Seriously. My office is on the 3rd floor overlooking the Boston Harbor, which is just across the street. Even up here, I would literally be under water right now if the water level here rose 41 feet.

Sassy
03-26-2009, 07:13 AM
Seriously. My office is on the 3rd floor overlooking the Boston Harbor, which is just across the street. Even up here, I would literally be under water right now if the water level here rose 41 feet.

Flood stage is 18 feet!

turftoad
03-26-2009, 09:02 AM
Sassy, I'm in GFK, it's all headed this way.
I hope we don't have another 1997, the dikes broke and city was toast.

Hang in there, hope the dikes hold.

We'll crest about 4-5 days after you guys do.

We could be in trouble again too.

Spider
03-26-2009, 10:21 PM
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Sassy
03-27-2009, 10:27 PM
This needs a serious bump :(

Sassy
03-27-2009, 10:29 PM
Sassy, I'm in GFK, it's all headed this way.
I hope we don't have another 1997, the dikes broke and city was toast.

Hang in there, hope the dikes hold.

We'll crest about 4-5 days after you guys do.

We could be in trouble again too.

Hmmm...talked to my cousin in GF today...she didn't seem worried.

jbiel
03-27-2009, 10:58 PM
So far so good. I guess I shouldnt say that as some people have lost their homes, but the dikes seem to be holding for the majority of Fargo/Moorhead residents. The weather shows more snow coming in Mon and Tues so thats not good though. I have moved most things upstairs, but still pretty nervous. I just redid our whole basement last fall, so I am praying it doesnt see any water.

Broncos_OTM
03-27-2009, 11:08 PM
what they need to do is get all the trustees out of the jail and make them bag... or use them as bags..

Meck77
03-28-2009, 06:31 AM
what they need to do is get all the trustees out of the jail and make them bag... or use them as bags..

I've often pondered how under utilized the bernie madoffs of our penal system are. Give them a shovel and 8 hr shifts and make them earn their FREE room and board!

colonelbeef
03-28-2009, 06:50 AM
Good luck to those of you in trouble, that must be incredibly frustrating

jbiel
03-28-2009, 07:15 AM
The inmates did help out initially I know. I believe they evacuated the prisons the other day though.

Anaximines
03-28-2009, 10:45 AM
more incredible pictures:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/red_river_flooding.html

SureShot
03-28-2009, 10:51 AM
Damn it looks cold there and I live in the mountains.

turftoad
03-28-2009, 10:55 AM
Hmmm...talked to my cousin in GF today...she didn't seem worried.

Yeah, we SHOULD be OK. But, out new 400 million $ flood wall is untested.

smalltowngrll
03-28-2009, 04:02 PM
Sassy, Hows it going? I see you are heading to Phx. Been thinking of you as I watch the news! I hope you and your home are all safe!

Sassy
03-28-2009, 08:56 PM
Someone needs to sticky this Please? The next couple of weeks are going to be a major player.

ol number 7
03-28-2009, 11:20 PM
I wish the best to all of you in the Dakota's and Minnesota.

I am pretty happy knowing that when we have a disaster in California, we have zero notice and just go with the shaking or baking.

Stirs the scotch eh

Spider
03-28-2009, 11:22 PM
meh . you guys are out of the woods now ...........

worm
03-29-2009, 01:13 AM
They should move Fargo away from the river. Who would live in a place where it would flood? Idiotic.

snowspot66
03-29-2009, 04:03 AM
Anywhere near water can flood in the right circumstances. You want to move most of the U.S. population?

400HZ
03-29-2009, 08:55 AM
They should move Fargo away from the river. Who would live in a place where it would flood? Idiotic.

This is a 500 year flood right now. It's like 40 feet above official flood levels.

ayjackson
03-29-2009, 10:58 AM
They should move Fargo away from the river. Who would live in a place where it would flood? Idiotic.

Just about everybody since the dawn of civilization, since it makes for fertile land and effective transportation. Not as relevant today, but it's hard to just move every major centre in the world because we have cars now.

snowspot66
03-29-2009, 11:07 AM
This is a 500 year flood right now. It's like 40 feet above official flood levels.

It broke the record set it 1897. And that's even after they got lucky and had it fall short a few inches because of cold weather.

Sassy
03-29-2009, 08:17 PM
They should move Fargo away from the river. Who would live in a place where it would flood? Idiotic.

Have you looked at the Nationial weather this last week?

Floods, tornadoes, blizzards, etc...where would you go?

cutthemdown
03-29-2009, 08:31 PM
Have you looked at the Nationial weather this last week?

Floods, tornadoes, blizzards, etc...where would you go?

People just say stupid things. It's like telling people in California why would you live on a huge earthquake fault, or people on cliffs with erosion, or people next to rivers, or lakes, or hurricanes, tornados. Why do we live near those things, because these are our homes and where our lives our. No place is perfect and each region has its own problems. We can't all live in the desert with no water either ya know!!!!.

What is important is that we help out each region when they have a disaster. That way we can overcome anything mother nature chooses to throw at us.

I'm glad it looks like all the peoples sandbagging has really made the difference.

Sassy
03-29-2009, 08:41 PM
Pray the dikes hold...

Anyway, spent today watching the Colorado Rockies Vs. Oakland A's...unfortunately they lost 7-5 in the bottom of 9 (after being ahead most of the game) but hey, sun, beer and baseball...good way to take my mind off of Fargo...did I say I was in Phoenix? ;D and at Phoenix Municipal Stadium?

worm
03-29-2009, 09:04 PM
People just say stupid things. It's like telling people in California why would you live on a huge earthquake fault, or people on cliffs with erosion, or people next to rivers, or lakes, or hurricanes, tornados. Why do we live near those things, because these are our homes and where our lives our. No place is perfect and each region has its own problems. We can't all live in the desert with no water either ya know!!!!.

What is important is that we help out each region when they have a disaster. That way we can overcome anything mother nature chooses to throw at us.

I'm glad it looks like all the peoples sandbagging has really made the difference.


My point exactly (albeit sarcasticly). After Katrina, I had to listen to tons of people saying they should just rebuild the City somewhere else...or if you choose to live there you get what you deserve...or similar idiotic opinions.

When it is YOUR City that is going through it...it is amazing how people feel differently..

missingnumber7
03-30-2009, 04:02 AM
Pray the dikes hold...

Anyway, spent today watching the Colorado Rockies Vs. Oakland A's...unfortunately they lost 7-5 in the bottom of 9 (after being ahead most of the game) but hey, sun, beer and baseball...good way to take my mind off of Fargo...did I say I was in Phoenix? ;D and at Phoenix Municipal Stadium?

2000 troops in the city are working on shoring up existing dikes, placing 1 ton air placeable sand bags, watching dikes for leaks, and controlling traffic...and then i'm sitting in a building overnight making sure it works ok...or at least helping with it.

Spider
03-30-2009, 05:08 AM
2000 troops in the city are working on shoring up existing dikes, placing 1 ton air placeable sand bags, watching dikes for leaks, and controlling traffic...and then i'm sitting in a building overnight making sure it works ok...or at least helping with it.

Good job ..... I remember seeing on the news little kids helping fill sand bags .....that was kick ass seeing all ages of people all walks of life kick in and help save their city ............

Beantown Bronco
03-30-2009, 05:54 AM
My point exactly (albeit sarcasticly). After Katrina, I had to listen to tons of people saying they should just rebuild the City somewhere else...or if you choose to live there you get what you deserve...or similar idiotic opinions.

When it is YOUR City that is going through it...it is amazing how people feel differently..

New Orleans is different scenario IMO and I can understand peoples' frustrations with pumping seemingly unlimited time and money into rebuilding it.

With Fargo and most other places like it, this kind of thing happens to this extent every 500 years or so.....and when it does happen, they can take steps to prevent it from being truly catastrophic (as we are seeing so far now). With the New Orleans area, they have proven that their basic infrastructure cannot handle certain categories of storms that literally have the potential of hitting them every year. It's been proven that, no matter what they do right now, a category 5 will be another Katrina all over again and all the time, effort and money that was pumped into that area will be lost.

I can certainly understand all the reasons why people feel it NEEDS to be rebuilt, but I can also understand why some get upset and feel they are spending ridiculous amounts of money on a city that could essentially be under water again this summer.

missingnumber7
03-30-2009, 02:19 PM
Good job ..... I remember seeing on the news little kids helping fill sand bags .....that was kick ass seeing all ages of people all walks of life kick in and help save their city ............

There was a guy who was wheel chair bound that helped, hopped out of his chair, sat on the ground and tied bags for several hours while I was running the Fargodome site.

Anyone who is a round the clock MSNBC viewer might have heard me on Saturday morning, around 830 central time.

Another note on the situation is that the NWS has issued warnings because of the weather that the second crest could be around 37 feet or possibly 40 or higher around the middle of april which creates huge problems, not only with the water staying high for such a long period of time putting huge stress on the dikes, but for the National Guard maintaining a numbers in town. Especially with flooding potential in Grand Forks and further north.

Spider
03-30-2009, 06:48 PM
There was a guy who was wheel chair bound that helped, hopped out of his chair, sat on the ground and tied bags for several hours while I was running the Fargodome site. And it is the spirit this guy has that makes this country so great

Anyone who is a round the clock MSNBC viewer might have heard me on Saturday morning, around 830 central time. I thought I saw a new shamwow guy ;D

Another note on the situation is that the NWS has issued warnings because of the weather that the second crest could be around 37 feet or possibly 40 or higher around the middle of april which creates huge problems, not only with the water staying high for such a long period of time putting huge stress on the dikes, but for the National Guard maintaining a numbers in town. Especially with flooding potential in Grand Forks and further north.
if it is the same storm that just left Utah and Wyoming ....... it isnt as bad as advertised .......

Sassy
03-30-2009, 08:10 PM
2000 troops in the city are working on shoring up existing dikes, placing 1 ton air placeable sand bags, watching dikes for leaks, and controlling traffic...and then i'm sitting in a building overnight making sure it works ok...or at least helping with it.

Wow...the effort of the city and it's residents is unreal.
What a job they have done! Keep praying...and thanks Ryan!
How's the family holding up?

400HZ
03-30-2009, 08:23 PM
There was a guy who was wheel chair bound that helped, hopped out of his chair, sat on the ground and tied bags for several hours while I was running the Fargodome site.

Anyone who is a round the clock MSNBC viewer might have heard me on Saturday morning, around 830 central time.

Another note on the situation is that the NWS has issued warnings because of the weather that the second crest could be around 37 feet or possibly 40 or higher around the middle of april which creates huge problems, not only with the water staying high for such a long period of time putting huge stress on the dikes, but for the National Guard maintaining a numbers in town. Especially with flooding potential in Grand Forks and further north.

My younger sister was at the Fargodome site Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Thank you for doing what no one else has ever accomplished getting some solid and honest work out of her. :)

Sassy
04-11-2009, 10:14 AM
This mess is far from over guys...now the Sheyenne is threatening...

This is behind and in front of my house.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9264.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9265.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9266.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9267.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9268.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9269.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9270.jpg

There is a 6 foot contingency dike in the middle of my road in front of my house and the sandbags are in the back.

BroncoBuff
04-11-2009, 10:17 AM
This is so tragic ... as bad or worse than Cedar Rapids last Spring :(

Glad to see you're prepared at your place Sass.

Sassy
04-11-2009, 10:26 AM
Just pray for no rain...anywhere around here.

Sassy
04-11-2009, 06:03 PM
Flood parties/barbecues in April with the neighbors rock!

kdissette
04-11-2009, 06:17 PM
yeah i am proud of my community we stuck together and made sure that the stupid river was not gonna get the best of us. We will beat this and btw i have come to hate the word "crest".

Sassy
04-11-2009, 06:18 PM
They are talking about the 3rd crest...because of the Sheyenne :(

Sassy
04-11-2009, 07:31 PM
Watch the River...
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=fgf&gage=fgon8&view=1,1,1,1,1,1

Sassy
04-11-2009, 07:40 PM
I need to move to NY or something :devil:

Sassy
04-11-2009, 07:40 PM
yeah i am proud of my community we stuck together and made sure that the stupid river was not gonna get the best of us. We will beat this and btw i have come to hate the word "crest".

"UNITED WE SAND" ;D
Me too!

kdissette
04-11-2009, 07:53 PM
**** tha river......we will beat tha stupid water come hell or high water lol

Sassy
04-11-2009, 07:56 PM
http://shop.cafepress.com/fargo-flood?page=2

Sassy
04-11-2009, 07:57 PM
**** tha river......we will beat tha stupid water come hell or high water lol

Where do you live?

Sassy
04-11-2009, 08:03 PM
For those who have no idea...watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdxtwROYTgE
March 25, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcMZ_0guIgE&feature=related
March 26, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl
K1bnkHNs&feature=related
March 27, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMun8i7b768&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ6X4Vc8KaY&feature=related
March 28, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvkE_F0LXp0&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=851tKxPaOXc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlBvf6zavD8&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YxWlfscJU4&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdVt4CIJMeU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dULHAIFJluo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-IauoOhh5I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbbYcM2hQ4E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKwjJu93Erw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snd_TTNo_G4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NhrHjt0VWk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvvFuqk0klc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKbZlNFOncE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcglQMwE8Bw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl2O-xKGEwQ&feature=related

Sassy
04-11-2009, 08:25 PM
The last one is the most current...on up.
Shows a good overall view of what's happened the last three weeks.

400HZ
04-11-2009, 08:44 PM
I live in Minot. They are building up the dikes in a few places, but nothing too serious. Some of the smaller towns nearby are looking to get hit pretty hard and they are working their asses off because a lot of those towns only have like 50 residents. I went and helped man the lines Friday in Burlington just west of town here. I swore to God that I would never stack another sandbag after I got out of the Marine Corps but I gave in. :giggle:

Sassy
04-12-2009, 02:21 PM
I live in Minot. They are building up the dikes in a few places, but nothing too serious. Some of the smaller towns nearby are looking to get hit pretty hard and they are working their asses off because a lot of those towns only have like 50 residents. I went and helped man the lines Friday in Burlington just west of town here. I swore to God that I would never stack another sandbag after I got out of the Marine Corps but I gave in. :giggle:

I have some friends in Minot.
It's only a couple of hours from where my parents live.

Sassy
04-13-2009, 03:33 PM
River update...expected to crest a little lower (38 feet instead of 39.3 flood stage is 18 feet) than what they originally said but still looking at what the Sheyenne and Wild Rice Rivers are doing as they dump into the Red. We are expecting rain on Thursday and Friday which is when the second crest will occur...but the local meteorologist says it should be well below an inch of rain and that it shouldn't affect the Rivers. The Red is about 100 yards behind my house and right now I'm diked in except there is one way in and out. It's suppose to be in the 60's the next couple of days and windy...which will help dry it up some. Pray for the best!

Sassy
04-15-2009, 02:17 PM
YES! They have lowered the Crest of the Red to 35.5 feet!!! Expected to crest at 1 am Saturday.

missingnumber7
04-18-2009, 03:47 AM
I live in Minot. They are building up the dikes in a few places, but nothing too serious. Some of the smaller towns nearby are looking to get hit pretty hard and they are working their asses off because a lot of those towns only have like 50 residents. I went and helped man the lines Friday in Burlington just west of town here. I swore to God that I would never stack another sandbag after I got out of the Marine Corps but I gave in. :giggle:

My parents are in minot.

Sassy
04-26-2009, 05:10 PM
About time they take down that 6 foot clay dike in front of my house!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/SSundheim/100_9283.jpg