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DBBBSBS
03-23-2009, 04:25 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4010299

Now that the coach came out and said as best as he could.. will baby cutler get out of his diapers and come practice ?

Lets see how long cutler wants to drag this.

TonyR
03-23-2009, 04:28 PM
"He's our quarterback. We can't predict the future. He's our quarterback, we want him to be our quarterback, we made that very clear to him and we hope he feels the same way," McDaniels told the NFL Network on Monday, a day before he speaks publicly about the feud for the first time.

McDaniels reiterated that trade talks never reached owner Pat Bowlen's desk, a sign that the issue never got to the serious stage.

"Conversations were had and we've never denied that, but at the same time it's our job to look at every opportunity that we can to see if it's something that could improve our football team, and that's what we were doing," McDaniels said.

"I know it's been a very public issue and this is something that I think happens more than people realize. We have a relationship, nobody knows where it stands right now, but it's going to get better," McDaniels said. "It will continue to get better, I believe that. I think it's something that both parties have to work toward a solid resolution. We have a good nucleus of players there that are looking forward to seeing him back at the facility and working with him. It will get to that point at some point in the near future."

Of their strained relationship, McDaniels said: "I absolutely feel that it is not irreparable."

worm
03-23-2009, 04:29 PM
Finally what the coach should have said from the beginning....but that is water under the bridge.

Josh has done his part...now Cutler needs to do his.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-23-2009, 04:34 PM
McDoosh and VaJay... it's meant to be...

DBBBSBS
03-23-2009, 04:36 PM
I hope jay does come back and clear the air. If he pulls a monkey wrench again and cry a little more.. than i smell more trouble than success in the years ahead

Popps
03-23-2009, 04:36 PM
Finally what the coach should have said from the beginning....but that is water under the bridge.

Josh has done his part...now Cutler needs to do his.

He HAS been saying this since the beginning. In fact, I thought this was an old quote when I read it. Absolutely nothing different than what he's been saying.




Where's Jay, though?

worm
03-23-2009, 04:39 PM
He HAS been saying this since the beginning. In fact, I thought this was an old quote when I read it. Absolutely nothing different than what he's been saying.

Where's Jay, though?

Popps, you really don't see anything different with these quotes compared to what was coming out of their conf call or face to face meeting?

Crushisback
03-23-2009, 04:42 PM
I think we should trade McD to the Chiefs for Cassell. Then we could dangle Cassell to the Chiefs for draft picks!

SonOfLe-loLang
03-23-2009, 04:43 PM
It is curious that McD and Bowlen are confused as to how Jay took their conversations the wrong way.

eddie mac
03-23-2009, 04:46 PM
I really hope Cutler wises up and realises he has nothing whatsoever to gain by ignoring McDaniels approaches and gets his ass back in the Broncos QB driving seat.

Bowlen is not going to give him a new contract under these circumstances and Denver are not going to trade him for the pittance other teams are prepared to give.

Cook is royally ****ing up his career with his stance here and the sooner Jay realises that the better.

UberBroncoMan
03-23-2009, 05:28 PM
Finally what the coach should have said from the beginning....but that is water under the bridge.

Josh has done his part...now Cutler needs to do his.

Cutler just told CBS 4 that he thinks the relationship is repairable as well. He is attending camp in April, so assuming another meltdown doesn't happen, the repairs should start then.

montrose
03-23-2009, 05:31 PM
Cutler just told CBS 4 that he thinks the relationship is repairable as well. He is attending camp in April, so assuming another meltdown doesn't happen, the repairs should start then.

I read that he's planning to report, but I didn't see that he said he thought the relationship was irreparable.

Taco John
03-23-2009, 05:32 PM
The "he's our quarterback" rhetoric started about a month late, but better late than never.

I'm still not convinced that the relationship isn't going to be a distraction, but what the hell...

halfcreek
03-23-2009, 05:34 PM
It is curious that McD and Bowlen are confused as to how Jay took their conversations the wrong way.

They have not factored in the Bus Translation Service.

lex
03-23-2009, 05:35 PM
Finally what the coach should have said from the beginning....but that is water under the bridge.

Josh has done his part...now Cutler needs to do his.

No, when you watch the interview in its totality, you can see why Cutler doesnt like this guy. When asked if he's the QB of the future, McDaniels says, "we cant predict the future." He could have easily given himself an out by saying, "Jay has a lot of talent, if he continues to work hard and improve, then its hard to imagine not wanting him here." But, no. He acts like this year is a one and done if that.

Part of the interview is up

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f67f00

USMCBladerunner
03-23-2009, 05:36 PM
I read that he's planning to report, but I didn't see that he said he thought the relationship was irreparable.

Irreperable?? Uber said that Cutler said that is was repairable. I hope he's right.

Uber can you confirm that Cutler said he thinks it can be fixed?

Popps
03-23-2009, 05:38 PM
Popps, you really don't see anything different with these quotes compared to what was coming out of their conf call or face to face meeting?

He's been saying...

1. It's his job to consider all options to improve the team. (That's why he said they "didn't deny conversations took place)

and...

2. He wants to speak with Jay one on one.

He's been saying that **** for a couple of weeks. I see nothing different. I expect that's the same thing he says tonight in the interview.

Florida_Bronco
03-23-2009, 05:38 PM
Irreperable?? Uber said that Cutler said that is was repairable. I hope he's right.

Uber can you confirm that Cutler said he thinks it can be fixed?

Yeah I'd like confirmation as well.

USMCBladerunner
03-23-2009, 05:41 PM
No, when you watch the interview in its totality, you can see why Cutler doesnt like this guy. When asked if he's the QB of the future, McDaniels says, "we cant predict the future." He could have easily given himself an out by saying, "Jay has a lot of talent, if he continues to work hard and improve, then its hard to imagine not wanting him here." But, no. He acts like this year is a one and done if that.

Part of the interview is up

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f67f00

I agree that there were more affirming words he could have chosen, but I don't see a "one and done" message in there.

OABB
03-23-2009, 05:41 PM
Yeah I'd like confirmation as well.

he never said that, he had no comment when asked. it's in the cutler will report in april thread. click on the link for cbs4 and you'll see Cutler has not said this.

DenverBrit
03-23-2009, 05:45 PM
I read that he's planning to report, but I didn't see that he said he thought the relationship was irreparable.

He didn't:

Cutler also let me know that he saw parts of Josh McDaniels' interview with the NFL Network on Monday. In that interview, McDaniels stated several times that Cutler is his quarterback and he hopes to keep the lines of communication open to resolve their differences. When asked if he thought the situation was reparable, McDaniels said yes.

Cutler had no comment on McDaniels' interview.

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/nfl.broncos.cutler.2.965992.html

lex
03-23-2009, 05:46 PM
I agree that there were more affirming words he could have chosen, but I don't see a "one and done" message in there.

It doesnt really matter if you or I dont see this message there. What matters is what Jay sees.

HAT
03-23-2009, 05:56 PM
It doesnt really matter if you or I dont see this message there. What matters is what Jay sees.


Well....in order for Jay to take that statement the wrong way, he must know people who can, in fact, predict the future.

Doubtful.

theAPAOps5
03-23-2009, 05:58 PM
Cutler just told CBS 4 that he thinks the relationship is repairable as well. He is attending camp in April, so assuming another meltdown doesn't happen, the repairs should start then.

Well if he thinks its reparable then he should extend an olive branch and not wait until April. Come now tell Bus Cook to STFU and snug it out with McD.

DenverBrit
03-23-2009, 06:03 PM
I agree that there were more affirming words he could have chosen, but I don't see a "one and done" message in there.

You're right, there isn't.

McDaniels is wisely choosing his words very carefully, trying not inflame an already volatile situation.

lex
03-23-2009, 06:10 PM
Well....in order for Jay to take that statement the wrong way, he must know people who can, in fact, predict the future.

Doubtful.

What?! Get the **** out of here. You dont even know what youre saying.

DenverBrit
03-23-2009, 06:11 PM
Well....in order for Jay to take that statement the wrong way, he must know people who can, in fact, predict the future.

Doubtful.

His agent has been busy trying. Ha!

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/cerabino/media/crystal_ball_LG.jpg

DenverBrit
03-23-2009, 06:13 PM
And so have the drama queens. :curtsey:


http://inter.theoffside.com/files/2008/10/crystal-ball.jpg

NYBronco
03-23-2009, 06:19 PM
No, when you watch the interview in its totality, you can see why Cutler doesnt like this guy. When asked if he's the QB of the future, McDaniels says, "we cant predict the future." He could have easily given himself an out by saying, "Jay has a lot of talent, if he continues to work hard and improve, then its hard to imagine not wanting him here." But, no. He acts like this year is a one and done if that.

Part of the interview is up

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f67f00

This could have been carefully worded for several reasons, sensitivities, injuries and a holdout situation.

oubronco
03-23-2009, 06:20 PM
Brit that avatar is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOT !!!!!

lex
03-23-2009, 06:35 PM
This could have been carefully worded for several reasons, sensitivities, injuries and a holdout situation.


It depends on what your objective is.

TonyR
03-23-2009, 06:49 PM
...when you watch the interview in its totality, you can see why Cutler doesnt like this guy. When asked if he's the QB of the future, McDaniels says, "we cant predict the future."

I can't imagine anything more sinister than those words! What an outrage! Jay and Bus should put out a press statement immediately denouncing this scoundrel. How dare he!

But seriously, what you're basically saying is that McD has to tiptoe around Jay and make sure he says everything just so in order to not hurt Jay's tender sensibilities. Maybe you should come up with a list of acceptable words and phrases that can be uttered in the presence of Mr. Cutler. Maybe an FAQ with a guide to proper demeanor and etiquette. Maybe even a video with some skits showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to communicate to Jay. McD could watch it in between game and practice tape sessions.

NYBronco
03-23-2009, 06:59 PM
It depends on what your objective is.

... or a draft day trade after all everyone is tradeable.

worm
03-23-2009, 06:59 PM
I can't imagine anything more sinister than those words! What an outrage! Jay and Bus should put out a press statement immediately denouncing this scoundrel. How dare he!

But seriously, what you're basically saying is that McD has to tiptoe around Jay and make sure he says everything just so in order to not hurt Jay's tender sensibilities. Maybe you should come up with a list of acceptable words and phrases that can be uttered in the presence of Mr. Cutler. Maybe an FAQ with a guide to proper demeanor and etiquette. Maybe even a video with some skits showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to communicate to Jay. McD could watch it in between game and practice tape sessions.

I agree. Josh is still very inexperienced and has no people skills as a HC. Hopefully he will educate himself as you suggest as quickly as possible.

Popps
03-23-2009, 07:11 PM
I agree. Josh is still very inexperienced and has no people skills as a HC. Hopefully he will educate himself as you suggest as quickly as possible.

He's handling this perfectly. He's appearing in control and not allowing the organization to be pushed into a corner by a kid and his ****-bag agent.

Props to the coach for the way he answered that? Is he the QB of the future? Who the **** knows. The pouty **** doesn't even come to meetings. How is McDaniels supposed to know if he's the QB of the future?

What an idiotic question.

eddie mac
03-23-2009, 07:37 PM
People need to realise that the player nut licking stopped the day Shanahan left the building.

broncosteven
03-23-2009, 08:10 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4010299

Now that the coach came out and said as best as he could.. will baby cutler get out of his diapers and come practice ?

Lets see how long cutler wants to drag this.


No one is unsalvageable!

"I'll take care of it"!

Natedogg
03-23-2009, 08:42 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f5aa0d

For once i agree with dion.

theAPAOps5
03-23-2009, 08:56 PM
He's handling this perfectly. He's appearing in control and not allowing the organization to be pushed into a corner by a kid and his ****-bag agent.

Props to the coach for the way he answered that? Is he the QB of the future? Who the **** knows. The pouty **** doesn't even come to meetings. How is McDaniels supposed to know if he's the QB of the future?

What an idiotic question.

I loved how he said they need to make him understand that this is part of the business and its a compliment to have teams calling about you as a player. Too bad the ledge jumpers here will just bitch and moan because Shanny isn't here coddling his players anymore.

watermock
03-23-2009, 09:23 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=6509&dateline=1236216069

Are you sure that isn't you under that Snuggie?

lex
03-23-2009, 09:49 PM
I can't imagine anything more sinister than those words! What an outrage! Jay and Bus should put out a press statement immediately denouncing this scoundrel. How dare he!

But seriously, what you're basically saying is that McD has to tiptoe around Jay and make sure he says everything just so in order to not hurt Jay's tender sensibilities. Maybe you should come up with a list of acceptable words and phrases that can be uttered in the presence of Mr. Cutler. Maybe an FAQ with a guide to proper demeanor and etiquette. Maybe even a video with some skits showing the "right" and "wrong" ways to communicate to Jay. McD could watch it in between game and practice tape sessions.


Sarcasm is a crutch for the feeble.

lex
03-23-2009, 09:50 PM
People need to realise that the player nut licking stopped the day Shanahan left the building.

Oh? Why is it that McDaniels has taken to the national media to get his plea out to Jay to have a private meeting?

theAPAOps5
03-23-2009, 09:59 PM
Oh? Why is it that McDaniels has taken to the national media to get his plea out to Jay to have a private meeting?

Man you are a stupid **** aren't you. Its the NFL network as in its owned by the NFL, as in Bowlen as an owner has a stake in the network.

Pseudofool
03-23-2009, 10:08 PM
Oh? Why is it that McDaniels has taken to the national media to get his plea out to Jay to have a private meeting?
Because private text messaging isn't working. Duh.

lex
03-23-2009, 10:13 PM
Because private text messaging isn't working. Duh.

Of course. How silly of me. I wonder why we havent seen Mangini give interviews to NFLN about the disgruntled Shaun Rogers?

baja
03-23-2009, 10:15 PM
The "he's our quarterback" rhetoric started about a month late, but better late than never.

I'm still not convinced that the relationship isn't going to be a distraction, but what the hell...

The overriding issue here is both Cutler and McD are competitive to the extreme and love football as soon as they get into the day to day all will be well.

Pseudofool
03-23-2009, 10:17 PM
Of course. How silly of me. I wonder why we havent seen Mangini give interviews to NFLN about the disgruntled Shaun Rogers?Let me parse through your sarcasm. Isn't it a good thing that McD is publicly expressing his desire and confidence in Cutler?

And as long as your drawing your attention to national media, what do you think about the preferential and scoops ESPN has gotten from the Cutler camp throughout this debacle? Do you have any weakly sardonic quips to respond to that?

Pseudofool
03-23-2009, 10:25 PM
After watching the interview clip, I'm really shocked that there's anything to quibble about. It's clear to me that McD is serious about Cutler being our quarterback, throw away line about the future aside (which was misrepresent by lex, go see it for yourself people).

lex
03-23-2009, 10:25 PM
Let me parse through your sarcasm. Isn't it a good thing that McD is publicly expressing his desire and confidence in Cutler?

And as long as your drawing your attention to national media, what do you think about the preferential and scoops ESPN has gotten from the Cutler camp throughout this debacle? Do you have any weakly sardonic quips to respond to that?

Both sides have been leaking information to the media this whole time. I dont fault Cutler for doing it if the FO is going to do the same thing. The reason I mentioned national media, btw, is because it seems like McDaniels mentioned several times that he wanted to meet one on one...almost like it was a plea to Jay...almost like getting that plea out was the central reason for doing the interview. Along those lines, theres less of a chance that Jay may see it if he does something locally and Jay is in Nashville.

lex
03-23-2009, 10:29 PM
After watching the interview clip, I'm really shocked that there's anything to quibble about. It's clear to me that McD is serious about Cutler being our quarterback, throw away line about the future aside (which was misrepresent by lex, go see it for yourself people).


Ive said this before and Ill point this out again since you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. Whats the most important rule in communication?

Pseudofool
03-23-2009, 10:31 PM
Both sides have been leaking information to the media this whole time. I dont fault Cutler for doing it if the FO is going to do the same thing. The reason I mentioned national media, btw, is because it seems like McDaniels mentioned several times that he wanted to meet one on one...almost like it was a plea to Jay...almost like getting that plea out was the central reason for doing the interview. Along those lines, theres less of a chance that Jay may see it if he does something locally and Jay is in Nashville.The difference--of course--is the FO is made of numerous people who might leak, while in Cutler's camp there's simply two.

If McD has to plea with Cutler in public for meeting, that suggests something more troubling about Jay than McD. But I didn't read the interview that way at all. McD seemed both poised and casual. Nothing of the pathetic desperation your implying here.

One wonders if the text message McD supposedly sent was to inform Jay he was going to give an interview. If so: Classy.

Pseudofool
03-23-2009, 10:33 PM
Ive said this before and Ill point this out again since you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. Whats the most important rule in communication?Umm, removing the stick up your ***?

lex
03-23-2009, 10:38 PM
The difference--of course--is the FO is made of numerous people who might leak, while in Cutler's camp there's simply two.

If McD has to plea with Cutler in public for meeting, that suggests something more troubling about Jay than McD. But I didn't read the interview that way at all. McD seemed both poised and casual. Nothing of the pathetic desperation your implying here.

One wonders if the text message McD supposedly sent was to inform Jay he was going to give an interview. If so: Classy.

It doesn matter who is leaking it. To say there are too many potential leaks is inconsequential. The point is that its getting out so whats fair is fair.

BTW, the answer to the question I presented to you is "know your audience". So, basically, it doesnt matter what you get out of this. Its pretty much the same crap we've been hearing the whole time through reports (which apparently were true). It doesnt matter what you or I think about it. His audience is Jay. And if Jay wasnt buying the same **** he's been shovelling, theres no reason to think he will buy it now.

Pseudofool
03-23-2009, 11:05 PM
It doesn matter who is leaking it. To say there are too many potential leaks is inconsequential. The point is that its getting out so whats fair is fair.

BTW, the answer to the question I presented to you is "know your audience". So, basically, it doesnt matter what you get out of this. Its pretty much the same crap we've been hearing the whole time through reports (which apparently were true). It doesnt matter what you or I think about it. His audience is Jay. And if Jay wasnt buying the same **** he's been shovelling, theres no reason to think he will buy it now. Maybe what Jay wants is the public display of affection. It's not enough that McD commits to Jay in private, he must do so in public.

But I'm cynical of your simplistic reduction of audience. McD was speaking to many audiences--first and foremost, his boss, but Cutler and fans are in their somewhere too.

lex
03-23-2009, 11:08 PM
Maybe what Jay wants is the public display of affection. It's not enough that McD commits to Jay in private, he must do so in public.

But I'm cynical of your simplistic reduction of audience. McD was speaking to many audiences--first and foremost, his boss, but Cutler and fans are in their somewhere too.

Why does McDaniels need to do an interview on NFL Network to deliver a message to Glenfiddich? Theyre both in Dove Valley every day.