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gyldenlove
03-23-2009, 01:26 PM
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It looks nice too. 64 MPG highway and about 80 MPG if you drive it a bit carefully at about 50 mph.

It has a regular diesel engine, nothing hybrid about it. It is on sale now, just not in North America.....
gyldenlove
03-23-2009, 01:28 PM
Oh yeah, it will seat a driver and 3 marines and works as a shallow water landing craft as well...

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DBruleU
03-23-2009, 01:52 PM
Good thing it's ugly as hell.
NYBronco
03-23-2009, 02:10 PM
Won't be long with more cars like this that we will see a tax on the miles we actually drive.
Beantown Bronco
03-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Chance of making it to NA in existing form = 0%.
broncofan7
03-23-2009, 03:21 PM
Won't be long with more cars like this that we will see a tax on the miles we actually drive.

Scary, but I fear you are correct.
TDmvp
03-23-2009, 04:49 PM
My 82 Chevy Luv diesel got 65 -70 mpg ... nothing new ...

and yea i see that tax on miles driven coming as well.
cutthemdown
03-23-2009, 05:17 PM
Won't be long with more cars like this that we will see a tax on the miles we actually drive.

yep
cutthemdown
03-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Scary, but I fear you are correct.

But it makes sense. If the system of roads is set up to be paid for by gas tax, and then people use less gas, then the tax system will also have to change.

As gas becomes fazed out for electric cars then what? Obviously the only solution is a miles based taxed.

I don't mind I don't drive a lot now, but if situation changed and I had to drive further to work then it would stink.
Bronco Bob
03-23-2009, 06:06 PM
23795

It looks nice too. 64 MPG highway and about 80 MPG if you drive it a bit carefully at about 50 mph.

It has a regular diesel engine, nothing hybrid about it. It is on sale now, just not in North America.....

What's it like performance wise? I remember those diesel VW Rabbits
being so underpowered they couldn't pull a bum out of bed.

What I'm curious about is why not use a diesel engine on a hybrid?
Bio-diesel is a lot easier to make than ethanol. A diesel engine is
more durable and needs less maintenance. And a straight diesel
engine on a car doesn't work as well because diesels are more
efficient at a fixed RPM. Truck get by with them because trucks
have a lot of gears. It just makes a lot more sense to use
a diesel engine for a hybrid than a gasoline engine.
NYBronco
03-23-2009, 06:19 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=6959056&page=1


Here's an article on the miles driven tax.
snowspot66
03-23-2009, 07:10 PM
What do you so about people in states like Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas? They'll be the most affected by the tax and also the least able to afford it. I don't see it happening (nationally) unless they can figure out how not to **** over people who have to drive at least 30 miles just to get to the store.
watermock
03-23-2009, 08:59 PM
Welcome to Obamination, where even your farts are taxed.
cutthemdown
03-23-2009, 09:06 PM
What do you so about people in states like Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas? They'll be the most affected by the tax and also the least able to afford it. I don't see it happening (nationally) unless they can figure out how not to **** over people who have to drive at least 30 miles just to get to the store.

Hmm hard to say. But for sure if revenues fall they will raise some sort of new tax to pay for it.

Right now the type of states you mention get more federal dollars back then they pay in so is it really unfair. Big states like CA/NY/FLA/TX get less back on the dollar then rural states like Wyoming and Montana.

No way taxes will always be fair, but I'm not sure small states have much room to complain when it comes to the gas tax and highway funds from the feds. They get more back then they pay in as it is.
Bronco Bob
03-25-2009, 10:30 PM
What do you so about people in states like Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas? They'll be the most affected by the tax and also the least able to afford it. I don't see it happening (nationally) unless they can figure out how not to **** over people who have to drive at least 30 miles just to get to the store.

Don't these people already pay more in gasoline taxes right now?
Part of the cost of gasoline is taxes for highway maintenance.
So if they drive more, they use more gasoline, and so they
are already paying more in taxes.