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gyldenlove
03-21-2009, 11:03 AM
Each team is allowed 30 private workouts prior to the draft, and for once the names of the players we are talking to seem to be available.

We have met with the following players so far:

BJ Raji, DT (1st)
Malcolm Jenkins, FS/CB (1st)
Connor Barwin, OLB/DE/TE (2nd)
Brian Orakpo, OLB/DE (1st)
Donald Green, RB (2nd)
Rashad Jennings, RB (3rd)
Pat White, QB/WR (4th-5th)
Eric Wood, OC/OG (2nd)
Kevin Barnes, CB (3rd)


Please feel free to add names as we go, I will try to keep this list updated for reference.

Requiem
03-21-2009, 11:06 AM
My buddy MUG has compiled this list over on BF.

OFFENSE

QB
Curtis Painter (Purdue) - 5th-6th Round

RBs
Knowshon Moreno (Georgia) - Early - Mid Round 1
Chris Wells (Ohio State) - Early-Mid Round 1
Donald Brown (Connecticut) - Mid-Late Round 1
Rashad Jennings (Liberty) - Early Round 2

WRs
Mike Thomas (Arizona) - Late Round 2 (also has value as a return specialist)
Eron Riley (Duke) - Late Round 3 - Round 6
Pat White (West Virginia) - Round 3 - Round 4 (Worked him out as a WR)

TE
Richard Quinn (North Carolina) - Round 6 - Undrafted FA (Badass blocking TE)

OC
Eric Wood (Louisville) - Late Round 1 - Early Round 2



DEFENSE

DTs
BJ Raji (Boston College) - Early Round 1
Roy Miller (Texas) - 5th Round - 7tth Round (Pure 2 gap NT)

OLB/DEs
Connor Barwin (Cincinnati) - Mid-Late Round 1
Robert Ayers (Tennessee) - Mid - Late Round 1
David Veikune (Hawaii) - Late Round 3 - Early Round 5
Victor Butler (Oregon State) - Round 4 - Round 6
Cody Brown (Connecticut) - Late Round 2 - Round 3
Brian Orakpo (Texas) - Early Round 1

CBs
Malcom Jenkins (Ohio State) - Early-Mid Round 1
Kevin Barnes (Maryland) - Early Round 3 - Round 4

S
Chip Vaughn (Wake Forest) - Late Round 2 - Round 3

Requiem
03-22-2009, 12:26 PM
Javon Ringer will be worked out on the 24th.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
03-23-2009, 08:19 AM
Add Brian Cushing of USC to the list as well.


I really like him as a person and prospect, I'm just not sure how well he would fit as a 3-4 OLB. And I'm not entirely thrilled with the idea of taking an ILB high in this draft.

ELEVATION
03-23-2009, 08:21 AM
i wonder if there will be smoke screens like in the shanny era...a private work-out means they wont be drafted....lol

Mat'hir Uth Gan
03-23-2009, 08:50 AM
i wonder if there will be smoke screens like in the shanny era...a private work-out means they wont be drafted....lol

Personally, I'm hoping McDaniels adopts Belichick/Pioli's draft philosophy, as it is one that I share.

They identify a player they like and have faith in to be productive, they then try and identify where that player will go in the draft (draft value), they settle on an earliest point, and then they trade up/down *in front of* that earliest point and do a small reach for the player they want.

The Patriots seem to reach with every selection. Not a bad reach, just an intelligent and well planned reach. I love this philosophy because it makes drafting much easier. You won't always be right with where you project other teams to value players, but by consistently reaching, you tend to insure you get the players you want.


Also, the other side of the Prospect Workout coin is that the prospect can bomb the individual workout, and thus, be taken off our board. Not by a smokescreen, but by a poor performance that was not anticipated.

And with all the RBs and OLBs we've brought in, I'm sure a few have taken themselves out of our draft wishlist due to underperforming in comparison to similarly valued prospects that we've also brought in.

gyldenlove
03-23-2009, 09:46 AM
Personally, I'm hoping McDaniels adopts Belichick/Pioli's draft philosophy, as it is one that I share.

They identify a player they like and have faith in to be productive, they then try and identify where that player will go in the draft (draft value), they settle on an earliest point, and then they trade up/down *in front of* that earliest point and do a small reach for the player they want.

The Patriots seem to reach with every selection. Not a bad reach, just an intelligent and well planned reach. I love this philosophy because it makes drafting much easier. You won't always be right with where you project other teams to value players, but by consistently reaching, you tend to insure you get the players you want.


Also, the other side of the Prospect Workout coin is that the prospect can bomb the individual workout, and thus, be taken off our board. Not by a smokescreen, but by a poor performance that was not anticipated.

And with all the RBs and OLBs we've brought in, I'm sure a few have taken themselves out of our draft wishlist due to underperforming in comparison to similarly valued prospects that we've also brought in.


What is a reach is always debatable but they have made several early round picks that can't be described as reaches. Maroney for one, Chad Jackson, Shawn Crable were all players who were expected to be drafted higher than they were. Mayo could be considered a reach since he wasn't believed to be a high 1st round pick, Meriweather had the skill to be drafted top half of the 1st round but some character issues. O'Connell was a bit of a surprise, and could be said to be a reach.

The one thing with the Patriots that stick out over the last 8 years is that they get 2 or 3 players in each draft who are contributors. They often draft players for the front early and then go for skill later, that fits the MO of having a solid base and then filling in intelligent and versatile players that fit the system later. This is what I hope we will do as well (and have done over the last couple of drafts.).

Mat'hir Uth Gan
03-23-2009, 10:02 AM
What is a reach is always debatable but they have made several early round picks that can't be described as reaches. Maroney for one, Chad Jackson, Shawn Crable were all players who were expected to be drafted higher than they were. Mayo could be considered a reach since he wasn't believed to be a high 1st round pick, Meriweather had the skill to be drafted top half of the 1st round but some character issues. O'Connell was a bit of a surprise, and could be said to be a reach.

The one thing with the Patriots that stick out over the last 8 years is that they get 2 or 3 players in each draft who are contributors. They often draft players for the front early and then go for skill later, that fits the MO of having a solid base and then filling in intelligent and versatile players that fit the system later. This is what I hope we will do as well (and have done over the last couple of drafts.).


Fair Enough. And I agree with your closing thought 100%.



Also, this nugget of info was posted on TFY's member section:

Finally, Tampa Bay has set a date to bring Ron Brace of Boston College to town. Brace will also visit the New Orleans Saints and have private workouts with the Denver Broncos and New England Patriots.

The New England Patriots will be one busy team. They are scheduled to have a private workout with San Jose State cornerback Christopher Owens and Texas A&M signal caller Stephen McGee.

McGee will also workout with the Carolina Panthers. McGee has received heavy interest from Dallas, Houston, Seattle, Denver and has also met with the Jaguars.


So, it looks like we can add Ron Brace to the list of players worked out, and we'll have to keep an eye on Stephen McGee to see if we bring him in or not.

crosswatt
03-25-2009, 12:00 PM
Is there any way McDaniels goes offense in the first? Knowshon, Brown, Jennings, and Beanie Wells are all early round players. Honestly, Wells reminds me of Maroney, strictly from a physical standpoint. Could that be a temptation?

gyldenlove
03-25-2009, 12:19 PM
Is there any way McDaniels goes offense in the first? Knowshon, Brown, Jennings, and Beanie Wells are all early round players. Honestly, Wells reminds me of Maroney, strictly from a physical standpoint. Could that be a temptation?

I Would say there is a meassurable probability that he goes WR in the 1st round, but I doubt any other player will have good value where we are drafting, so unless we trade we are going WR or defense in my view.

Moreno and Wells are not good value at number 12, we would have to move down to get either one. I would say we would be better off getting a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round if we draft a RB.

Right now I believe we are chosing between Raji, Jenkins, Cushing and Tyson Jackson unless we trade in the draft.

gyldenlove
03-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Louis Delmas will visit as well.

Ramathorn
03-26-2009, 09:16 PM
Are we gonna work out percy harvin? This is someone I would def take at 12.

gyldenlove
03-27-2009, 08:22 AM
We have met with Darius Butler as well, CB.

gyldenlove
03-27-2009, 08:23 AM
Are we gonna work out percy harvin? This is someone I would def take at 12.

Not what I have heard of, we haven't worked out with any 1st round WRs. Harvin at 12 would be a bit of a reach given his position of play and his experience level and the fact that most Florida WRs fail badly.

Requiem
03-27-2009, 09:23 AM
LeSean McCoy, RB -- as well.

Drek
03-27-2009, 10:22 AM
Is there any way McDaniels goes offense in the first? Knowshon, Brown, Jennings, and Beanie Wells are all early round players. Honestly, Wells reminds me of Maroney, strictly from a physical standpoint. Could that be a temptation?

I'd say it looks like they're positioning for a 2nd or 3rd round slider, and checking out all the guys they find interesting from within that group of potentials.

gyldenlove
03-27-2009, 11:09 AM
My buddy MUG has compiled this list over on BF.

OFFENSE

QB
Curtis Painter (Purdue) - 5th-6th Round

RBs
Knowshon Moreno (Georgia) - Early - Mid Round 1
Chris Wells (Ohio State) - Early-Mid Round 1
Donald Brown (Connecticut) - Mid-Late Round 1
Rashad Jennings (Liberty) - Early Round 2
NEW - Lesean Mccoy (Pittsburch) - Late Round 1, Early Round 2

WRs
Mike Thomas (Arizona) - Late Round 2 (also has value as a return specialist)
Eron Riley (Duke) - Late Round 3 - Round 6
Pat White (West Virginia) - Round 3 - Round 4 (Worked him out as a WR)

TE
Richard Quinn (North Carolina) - Round 6 - Undrafted FA (Badass blocking TE)

OC
Eric Wood (Louisville) - Late Round 1 - Early Round 2



DEFENSE

DTs
BJ Raji (Boston College) - Early Round 1
Roy Miller (Texas) - 5th Round - 7tth Round (Pure 2 gap NT)

OLB/DEs
Connor Barwin (Cincinnati) - Mid-Late Round 1
Robert Ayers (Tennessee) - Mid - Late Round 1
David Veikune (Hawaii) - Late Round 3 - Early Round 5
Victor Butler (Oregon State) - Round 4 - Round 6
Cody Brown (Connecticut) - Late Round 2 - Round 3
Brian Orakpo (Texas) - Early Round 1
Brian Cushing (USC) - Round 1

CBs
Malcom Jenkins (Ohio State) - Early-Mid Round 1
Kevin Barnes (Maryland) - Early Round 3 - Round 4
Darius Butler (Connecticut) - Round 2/3

S
Chip Vaughn (Wake Forest) - Late Round 2 - Round 3
Louis Delmas (Western Michigan) - Round 2


.

lex
03-27-2009, 11:57 AM
I'd say it looks like they're positioning for a 2nd or 3rd round slider, and checking out all the guys they find interesting from within that group of potentials.


That seems to be more the case with the WRs. It seems like theyre considering taking a RB in the first but possibly want to see what the difference is between a 1st rd back and a 3rd by bringing them in and kicking the tires. So basically, if theyre far more impressed with Moreno or Wells than anyone else, they might go that way. If theres possibly anything that makes sense from the FA signings its that it seems that they positioned themselves to have flexibility to draft any position in the first. I dont think theyll take a RB in the first. I really hope Im wrong, though. Id really start to warm up to McDaniels if they took a RB in the first. Ive said countless times that we should maximize a strength, not minimize it.

Drek
03-27-2009, 12:07 PM
That seems to be more the case with the WRs. It seems like theyre considering taking a RB in the first but possibly want to see what the difference is between a 1st rd back and a 3rd by bringing them in and kicking the tires. So basically, if theyre far more impressed with Moreno or Wells than anyone else, they might go that way. If theres possibly anything that makes sense from the FA signings its that it seems that they positioned themselves to have flexibility to draft any position in the first. I dont think theyll take a RB in the first. I really hope Im wrong, though. Id really start to warm up to McDaniels if they took a RB in the first. Ive said countless times that we should maximize a strength, not minimize it.

I'm expecting some significant sliders myself, and don't see an RB in this class worth a top 15 pick and there is a tight pack of guys who all fit in the mid-1st to early 2nd category. Add a big RB class last year and I think we're very likely to see a couple good value guys sliding to our 2nd round pick.

lex
03-27-2009, 12:17 PM
I'm expecting some significant sliders myself, and don't see an RB in this class worth a top 15 pick and there is a tight pack of guys who all fit in the mid-1st to early 2nd category. Add a big RB class last year and I think we're very likely to see a couple good value guys sliding to our 2nd round pick.

Yeah, maybe but a lot of the RBs that weve brought in arent exactly "sliders", for example, Rashad Jennings and Jevon Ringer. Those would be 3rd round guys, which are hardly sliders. Im just commenting on what their behavior suggests to me. I dont think theyre doing it to rely on a slider (thats actually kind of foolish). I think theyre scrutinizing whether theres that much difference between, say, Moreno or Wells and someone like Jennings. If they like Wells or Moreno a lot more, they may be tempted to take either of them in the first. And yes, I realize there are overlapping considerations. I actually think Wells is easily worth a top 15 pick but there may also be other good players there.

BroncoMan4ever
03-27-2009, 04:07 PM
if we get Rashad Jennings i will consider this a good draft.

gyldenlove
03-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Add Cornerback Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest.

gyldenlove
03-28-2009, 09:36 AM
And Paul Kruger, DE, Utah

gyldenlove
03-30-2009, 10:51 AM
MUGs list

OFFENSE

QB
Curtis Painter (Purdue) - 5th-6th Round

RBs
Knowshon Moreno (Georgia) - Early - Mid Round 1
Chris Wells (Ohio State) - Early-Mid Round 1
Donald Brown (Connecticut) - Mid-Late Round 1
Rashad Jennings (Liberty) - Early Round 2
Lesean Mccoy (Pittsburch) - Late Round 1, Early Round 2

WRs
Mike Thomas (Arizona) - Late Round 2 (also has value as a return specialist)
Eron Riley (Duke) - Late Round 3 - Round 6
Pat White (West Virginia) - Round 3 - Round 4 (Worked him out as a WR)

TE
Richard Quinn (North Carolina) - Round 6 - Undrafted FA (Badass blocking TE)

OC
Eric Wood (Louisville) - Late Round 1 - Early Round 2



DEFENSE

DTs
BJ Raji (Boston College) - Early Round 1
Roy Miller (Texas) - 5th Round - 7tth Round (Pure 2 gap NT)

OLB/DEs
Connor Barwin (Cincinnati) - Mid-Late Round 1
Robert Ayers (Tennessee) - Mid - Late Round 1
David Veikune (Hawaii) - Late Round 3 - Early Round 5
Victor Butler (Oregon State) - Round 4 - Round 6
Cody Brown (Connecticut) - Late Round 2 - Round 3
Brian Orakpo (Texas) - Early Round 1
Brian Cushing (USC) - Round 1
Paul Kruger (Utah) - Round 2 - Round 3

ILB
James Laurinaitis (Ohio State) - Late Round 1 - Early Round 2

CBs
Malcom Jenkins (Ohio State) - Early-Mid Round 1
Kevin Barnes (Maryland) - Early Round 3 - Round 4
Darius Butler (Connecticut) - Round 2/3
Alphonso Smith (Wake Forest) - Late Round 1 - Early Round 2

S
Chip Vaughn (Wake Forest) - Late Round 2 - Round 3
Louis Delmas (Western Michigan) - Round 2


28 of the 30 players we are allowed to meet with.

rugbythug
03-30-2009, 01:31 PM
You sure hope he does not pull a Shanny and not draft a player they have looked at. There would not be anyone left.

gyldenlove
03-30-2009, 02:03 PM
You sure hope he does not pull a Shanny and not draft a player they have looked at. There would not be anyone left.

That would suck

lex
04-04-2009, 11:34 PM
bump

BowlenBall
04-04-2009, 11:49 PM
Add C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama, as per Pro Football Talk:

Alabama’s Caldwell On The Move (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/04/alabamas-caldwell-on-the-move/)

Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 4, 2009, 8:01 p.m.
Alabama center Antoine Caldwell is scheduled to visit the Cleveland Browns and the Denver Broncos prior to the draft, according to a league source.
The 6′3, 310-pound Crimson Tide captain is projected to be drafted as high as the third or fourth round later this month.
At the NFL Scouting Combine, Caldwell registered a 5.24 time in the 40-yard dash.
Plus, he posted a 9-3 broad jump, a 28-inch vertical leap and bench pressed 225 pounds 23 times.
Caldwell reportedly made a strong impression on NFL scouts at the Senior Bowl practices.

lex
04-04-2009, 11:53 PM
Add C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama, as per Pro Football Talk:

Alabama’s Caldwell On The Move (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/04/alabamas-caldwell-on-the-move/)

Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 4, 2009, 8:01 p.m.
Alabama center Antoine Caldwell is scheduled to visit the Cleveland Browns and the Denver Broncos prior to the draft, according to a league source.
The 6′3, 310-pound Crimson Tide captain is projected to be drafted as high as the third or fourth round later this month.
At the NFL Scouting Combine, Caldwell registered a 5.24 time in the 40-yard dash.
Plus, he posted a 9-3 broad jump, a 28-inch vertical leap and bench pressed 225 pounds 23 times.
Caldwell reportedly made a strong impression on NFL scouts at the Senior Bowl practices.


Thats interesting. Both Wood and Caldwell did a very good job on Raji during the senior bowl (the actual game) and here we are bringing them in.

BTW, since we're bringing in Wells twice, doesnt that make 30?

gyldenlove
04-05-2009, 09:08 AM
Thats interesting. Both Wood and Caldwell did a very good job on Raji during the senior bowl (the actual game) and here we are bringing them in.

BTW, since we're bringing in Wells twice, doesnt that make 30?

I think you are allowed to bring in the same player more than once without it counting as a seperate visit.

orinjkrush
04-05-2009, 10:13 AM
just from these numbers you would guess we pick OLB, RB and CB.

Requiem
04-05-2009, 10:27 AM
Larry English and kicker Ryan Succop as well.

serfrocker
04-05-2009, 12:52 PM
running totals on draftguys.com. http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/1/2009_draft_player_team_interest_rumor_mill_-_april_3/

Denver Broncos
Offense
QB – Mark Sanchez (USC) Rumored Interest (Sam Farmer, Los Angeles Times)
QB – Pat White (West Virginia) - Had Private Workout (Scout.com)
QB – Curtis Painter (Purdue) - Private Workout scheduled
RB – Chris Wells (OSU) - Official Visit Scheduled (Aaron Wilson, Carroll County Times)
RB – Rashad Jennings (Liberty) - Had Private Work out on 3/8
RB – Donald Brown (UCONN) - Had Private Workout - 3/24
RB – Javon Ringer (Michigan State) - Private Workout Scheduled (Chris Steuber - Scout.com)
WR – Brian Hartline (Ohio State) - Rumored Interest
WR – Quan Cosby(Texas) - Had a Workout (Scout.com)
C – Eric Wood (Louisville) - Had Private Workout (Gil Brandt, NFL.com)

Defense
DT – BJ Raji (Boston College) - Had Private Workout – 3/20
DT – Ron Brace (Boston College) -Had Workout (NFLDraftbible.com)
DT/DE – Brian Orakpo(Texas) - Has Scheduled a Visit (NFL.com)
DT – Ziggy Hood (Missouri) -Had Workout (NFLDraftbible.com)
DT – Fili Moala(USC) - Formal Interview at Combine (Scout.com)
DE/LB –Cody Brown (UCONN) - Had Private Workout by linebacker coach – 3/20 (Scout.com)
DE – Conner Barwin(Cincinnati) - Had Private Workout – 3/17 (Scout.com)
LB –Clay Matthews (USC) - Rumored Interest (Andrew Garda, Draftguys.com)
CB– Malcolm Jenkins (Ohio State) - Had Private Workout -3/20
CB– Alphonso Smith (Wake Forest) - Scheduled Official Visit (ProFootballTalk.com)
S – Louis Delmas (Westen Michigan) - Visit Scheduled (Scout.com)
S – Patrick Chung (Oregon) - Had Private Workout (Scout.com

gyldenlove
04-05-2009, 03:10 PM
We have brought in Rashard Johnson, S, Alabama as well. That would make 30 unless some have been erronously reported.

gyldenlove
04-07-2009, 11:47 AM
We have had Ron Brace in for a private workout.

Elway777
04-07-2009, 12:57 PM
running totals on draftguys.com. http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/1/2009_draft_player_team_interest_rumor_mill_-_april_3/

Denver Broncos
Offense
QB – Mark Sanchez (USC) Rumored Interest (Sam Farmer, Los Angeles Times)
QB – Pat White (West Virginia) - Had Private Workout (Scout.com)
QB – Curtis Painter (Purdue) - Private Workout scheduled
RB – Chris Wells (OSU) - Official Visit Scheduled (Aaron Wilson, Carroll County Times)
RB – Rashad Jennings (Liberty) - Had Private Work out on 3/8
RB – Donald Brown (UCONN) - Had Private Workout - 3/24
RB – Javon Ringer (Michigan State) - Private Workout Scheduled (Chris Steuber - Scout.com)
WR – Brian Hartline (Ohio State) - Rumored Interest
WR – Quan Cosby(Texas) - Had a Workout (Scout.com)
C – Eric Wood (Louisville) - Had Private Workout (Gil Brandt, NFL.com)

Defense
DT – BJ Raji (Boston College) - Had Private Workout – 3/20
DT – Ron Brace (Boston College) -Had Workout (NFLDraftbible.com)
DT/DE – Brian Orakpo(Texas) - Has Scheduled a Visit (NFL.com)
DT – Ziggy Hood (Missouri) -Had Workout (NFLDraftbible.com)
DT – Fili Moala(USC) - Formal Interview at Combine (Scout.com)
DE/LB –Cody Brown (UCONN) - Had Private Workout by linebacker coach – 3/20 (Scout.com)
DE – Conner Barwin(Cincinnati) - Had Private Workout – 3/17 (Scout.com)
LB –Clay Matthews (USC) - Rumored Interest (Andrew Garda, Draftguys.com)
CB– Malcolm Jenkins (Ohio State) - Had Private Workout -3/20
CB– Alphonso Smith (Wake Forest) - Scheduled Official Visit (ProFootballTalk.com)
S – Louis Delmas (Westen Michigan) - Visit Scheduled (Scout.com)
S – Patrick Chung (Oregon) - Had Private Workout (Scout.com
If the Broncos could do this trade 12 and 48 pick for 20 and 33 plus a 3 rounder then Broncos could draft 18 Wells or Maclin 20 Conner Barwin 33 Ziggy Hood. That would be a great draft for Broncos.We had private workouts with all these players but Maclin. We also have 3 more 3 rounders which we could draft Eric Wood ,Patrick Chung and Chis Baker

gyldenlove
04-10-2009, 08:10 PM
We have worked out WR Kenny Mckinley according to rumors.

Traveler
04-16-2009, 09:42 AM
Broncos | Levitre privately worked out for team
Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:46:14 -0700

Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports Oregon State OT Andy Levitre conducted a private workout for the Denver Broncos' offensive line coach.

http://www.kffl.com/player/21089/nfl

gyldenlove
04-16-2009, 01:42 PM
The picture seems pretty clear.

We have worked out top RBs, top DE/OLB flex players, NTs, some good CBs and FSs and some low round KR type WRs and some mid round OG/OC.

My bet is that we get a DE/OLB in round 1 or 2 to go with a DL and RB or FS and pick OL with a CB/RB/FS in round 3 and 4. We haven't worked with any of the high ranked QBs, so I guess we might pick a QB in round 6 or something, but not earlier.