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montrose
03-20-2009, 12:27 PM
1) Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – New face of the franchise.
2) Rams: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia – Orlando Pace’s replacement.
3) Chiefs: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest – Best player in the draft.
4) Seahawks: Jason Brown, OT, Baylor – Walter Jones’ heir.
5) Browns: Brian Orakpo, OLB, Texas – Need a pass rusher.
6) Bengals: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College – Could use a force inside.
7) Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri – Al Davis loves speed.
8) Jaguars: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech – Need WRs badly.
9) Packers: Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State – A pass rusher for the 3-4 move.
10) 49ers: Mark Sanchez, QB, Southern California – Too much to pass up.
11) Bills: Aaron Maybin, OLB, Penn State – Aaron Schobel needs help.
12) Broncos: Brian Cushing, OLB, Southern California – Versatile and solid.
13) Redskins: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee – Jason Taylor’s gone.
14) Saints: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi – Just Sedrick Ellis isn’t enough.
15) Texans: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State – Best player available.
16) Chargers: Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State – Replacement for Igor Olshansky.
17) Broncos: Rey Maualuga, ILB, Southern California – New leader of the defense.
18) Bears: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama – Joins Chris Williams as bookend tackles.
19) Buccaneers: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State – Familiar with Raheem Morris.
20) Lions: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi – Lions get their tackle 19 picks later.
21) Eagles: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona – Tackle is the #1 need for the Eagles.
22) Vikings: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida – A fun weapon to join Adrian Peterson.
23) Patriots: Larry English, OLB, Northern Illinois – A Patriots-type project.
24) Falcons: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois – Replacement for Domonique Foxworth.
25) Dolphins: Clay Matthews, OLB, Southern California – A Bill Parcells kind of guy.
26) Ravens: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland – Local product fills a huge need.
27) Colts: Evander Hood, DT, Missouri – Colts value defensive lineman.
28) Eagles: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State – Should replace L.J. Smith nicely.
29) Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers – Insurance for Plaxico Burress.
30) Titans: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest – Nick Harper is getting up there.
31) Cardinals: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech – An athletic replacement for Antonio Smith.
32) Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon – Versatile player at Champs’ weakest position.
33) Lions: James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State – Their new Chris Spielman.
34) Patriots: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut – A smart player at a position of major need.
35) Rams: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina – Torry Holt is gone.
36) Browns: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College – Traded away Shaun Rogers.
37) Seahawks: Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia – Traded Julian Peterson away.
38) Bengals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State – Local product provides insurance for Cedrick Benson.
39) Jaguars: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut – Tre Thomas is a short-term solution.
40) Raiders: Alex Mack, C, California – Fills needs and played for Raiders new OL coach.
41) Packers: Sean Smith, CB, Utah – Harris and Woodson are aging.
42) Bills: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina – Athletic TE fills a huge need.
43) 49ers: Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose St. – Provides size and flexibility on the DL.
44) Dolphins: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt – Great value to replace Andre’ Goodman.
45) Giants: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia – Would be a nice replacement for Derrick Ward.
46) Texans: William Moore, S, Missouri – The run on safeties begins.
47) Patriots: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State – Just seems like a New England-type of guy.
48) Broncos: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan – Would learn next to Brian Dawkins.
49) Bears: Rashod Johnson, S, Alabama – Similar skill set to the departed Mike Brown.
50) Browns: Paul Kruger, DE, Utah – Could help 3-4 defense in a number of ways.
51) Cowboys: Patrick Chung, S, Oregon – Roy Williams’ replacement.
52) Broncos: Sen’Derrick Marks, DE, Auburn – A solid 5-technique for the 3-4 switch.
53) Eagles: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut – Brian Westbrook needs a solid backup.
54) Vikings: Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma – Vikings value OL very high.
55) Falcons: Shawn Nelson, TE, Oklahoma State – Big target for Matt Ryan.
56) Dolphins: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State – Nice compliment to Ted Ginn.
57) Ravens: Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon – Ravens have lost a ton of CBs.
58) Patriots: Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina – Patriots OTs are getting older.
59) Panthers: Fili Moala, DT, Southern California – Desperately need DT depth.
60) Giants: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State - David Diehl may be best suited inside.
61) Colts: Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma – Best player available.
62) Titans: Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma – Even with Nate Washington, could use WR help.
63) Cardinals: Eric Wood, C, Louisville – Interior-OL is a need of the NFC Champs.
64) Steelers: Chris Baker, DE, Hampton – A solid prospect to groom for the future.

Three-Way Trade
Broncos trade Jay Cutler
Browns trade Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers
Jets trade 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks; and 2010 1st round pick

Broncos receive Brady Quinn, Shaun Rogers, and Jets 1st and 2nd round picks
Browns receive Jets 3rd round pick and 2010 1st round pick
Jets receive Jay Cutler

Broncos Depth Chart
QB: Quinn, Simms
RB: Buckhalter, Arrington, Jordan, Torain
FB: Hillis
WR: Marshall, Gaffney, Jackson
WR: Royal, Stokley
TE: Graham, Putzier
LT: Clady, Polumbus
LG: Hamilton, Paxton
C: Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger
RG: Kuper, Young
RT: Harris

DE: Thomas, Peterson
NT: Rogers, Fields
DE: Marks, Powell
OLB: Cushing, Moss, Dumervil
OLB: B.Bailey, Woodyard
ILB: Maualuga, Davis
ILB: D.Williams, Larsen
CB: C.Bailey, Bell
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
FS: Delmas, Hill
SS: Dawkins, Barrett

OBF1
03-20-2009, 12:33 PM
Can a man ever get enough of the Mock drafts??? I think not. Keep them coming

lex
03-20-2009, 12:34 PM
1) Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – New face of the franchise.
2) Rams: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia – Orlando Pace’s replacement.
3) Chiefs: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest – Best player in the draft.
4) Seahawks: Jason Brown, OT, Baylor – Walter Jones’ heir.
5) Browns: Brian Orakpo, OLB, Texas – Need a pass rusher.
6) Bengals: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College – Could use a force inside.
7) Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri – Al Davis loves speed.
8) Jaguars: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech – Need WRs badly.
9) Packers: Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State – A pass rusher for the 3-4 move.
10) 49ers: Mark Sanchez, QB, Southern California – Too much to pass up.
11) Bills: Aaron Maybin, OLB, Penn State – Aaron Schobel needs help.
12) Broncos: Brian Cushing, OLB, Southern California – Versatile and solid.
13) Redskins: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee – Jason Taylor’s gone.
14) Saints: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi – Just Sedrick Ellis isn’t enough.
15) Texans: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State – Best player available.
16) Chargers: Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State – Replacement for Igor Olshansky.
17) Broncos: Rey Maualuga, ILB, Southern California – New leader of the defense.
18) Bears: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama – Joins Chris Williams as bookend tackles.
19) Buccaneers: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State – Familiar with Raheem Morris.
20) Lions: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi – Lions get their tackle 19 picks later.
21) Eagles: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona – Tackle is the #1 need for the Eagles.
22) Vikings: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida – A fun weapon to join Adrian Peterson.
23) Patriots: Larry English, OLB, Northern Illinois – A Patriots-type project.
24) Falcons: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois – Replacement for Domonique Foxworth.
25) Dolphins: Clay Matthews, OLB, Southern California – A Bill Parcells kind of guy.
26) Ravens: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland – Local product fills a huge need.
27) Colts: Evander Hood, DT, Missouri – Colts value defensive lineman.
28) Eagles: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State – Should replace L.J. Smith nicely.
29) Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers – Insurance for Plaxico Burress.
30) Titans: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest – Nick Harper is getting up there.
31) Cardinals: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech – An athletic replacement for Antonio Smith.
32) Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon – Versatile player at Champs’ weakest position.
33) Lions: James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State – Their new Chris Spielman.
34) Patriots: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut – A smart player at a position of major need.
35) Rams: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina – Torry Holt is gone.
36) Browns: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College – Traded away Shaun Rogers.
37) Seahawks: Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia – Traded Julian Peterson away.
38) Bengals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State – Local product provides insurance for Cedrick Benson.
39) Jaguars: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut – Tre Thomas is a short-term solution.
40) Raiders: Alex Mack, C, California – Fills needs and played for Raiders new OL coach.
41) Packers: Sean Smith, CB, Utah – Harris and Woodson are aging.
42) Bills: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina – Athletic TE fills a huge need.
43) 49ers: Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose St. – Provides size and flexibility on the DL.
44) Dolphins: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt – Great value to replace Andre’ Goodman.
45) Giants: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia – Would be a nice replacement for Derrick Ward.
46) Texans: William Moore, S, Missouri – The run on safeties begins.
47) Patriots: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State – Just seems like a New England-type of guy.
48) Broncos: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan – Would learn next to Brian Dawkins.
49) Bears: Rashod Johnson, S, Alabama – Similar skill set to the departed Mike Brown.
50) Browns: Paul Kruger, DE, Utah – Could help 3-4 defense in a number of ways.
51) Cowboys: Patrick Chung, S, Oregon – Roy Williams’ replacement.
52) Broncos: Sen’Derrick Marks, DE, Auburn – A solid 5-technique for the 3-4 switch.
53) Eagles: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut – Brian Westbrook needs a solid backup.
54) Vikings: Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma – Vikings value OL very high.
55) Falcons: Shawn Nelson, TE, Oklahoma State – Big target for Matt Ryan.
56) Dolphins: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State – Nice compliment to Ted Ginn.
57) Ravens: Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon – Ravens have lost a ton of CBs.
58) Patriots: Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina – Patriots OTs are getting older.
59) Panthers: Fili Moala, DT, Southern California – Desperately need DT depth.
60) Giants: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State - David Diehl may be best suited inside.
61) Colts: Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma – Best player available.
62) Titans: Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma – Even with Nate Washington, could use WR help.
63) Cardinals: Eric Wood, C, Louisville – Interior-OL is a need of the NFC Champs.
64) Steelers: Chris Baker, DE, Hampton – A solid prospect to groom for the future.

Three-Way Trade
Broncos trade Jay Cutler
Browns trade Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers
Jets trade 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks; and 2010 1st round pick

Broncos receive Brady Quinn, Shaun Rogers, and Jets 1st and 2nd round picks
Browns receive Jets 3rd round pick and 2010 1st round pick
Jets receive Jay Cutler

Broncos Depth Chart
QB: Quinn, Simms
RB: Buckhalter, Arrington, Jordan, Torain
FB: Hillis
WR: Marshall, Gaffney, Jackson
WR: Royal, Stokley
TE: Graham, Putzier
LT: Clady, Polumbus
LG: Hamilton, Paxton
C: Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger
RG: Kuper, Young
RT: Harris

DE: Thomas, Peterson
NT: Rogers, Fields
DE: Marks, Powell
OLB: Cushing, Moss, Dumervil
OLB: B.Bailey, Woodyard
ILB: Maualuga, Davis
ILB: D.Williams, Larsen
CB: C.Bailey, Bell
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
FS: Delmas, Hill
SS: Dawkins, Barrett


FWIW, I think Kirwan was saying Denver should get 3600 worth of picks aside from the player. In this scenario, Denver is only getting 1460-1660 depending on what value you assign to Shaun Rogers.

BTW, this would give Denver:
12
17
48
52
69
79

In the first three rounds to go along with Quinn and Rogers.

PRBronco
03-20-2009, 12:54 PM
Wow the Browns would be getting gang raped in that trade...they'll probably do it.

socalorado
03-20-2009, 01:09 PM
If this happens, i involuntarily sh!t my pants!!
As much as i would love to get Cushing and REY REY, i would also love to get CMathews instead of REY. I like Larsen alot, and i really think he is gonna be a solid ILB.
BUT! No complaints here! L!OL!
Also, why not go for broke and get rid of Marshall too!?!
Trade Bmarsh for either #26 BALT or 28 NYG and draft KBritt WR Rutgers.
Huge BMarsh like player, with good hands. 6-4 215.
I also LOVE the Delmas pick, and he would be smashing in the secondary.
This also frees up DEN to draft a TE like Casey, Rice in the 3rd.
And another DE like Mith King Pudue in the 4th.
That would complete the offense with Casey, and complete the 3-4 for Nolan. This team would be BRUTAL in one offseason and as LEX pointed out, acoording to the points system, DEN isnt even getting full value!!!!
Unreal!
Yeah and CLE will have to get something more right away! Sheffler, something...........

lex
03-20-2009, 01:11 PM
Wow the Browns would be getting gang raped in that trade...they'll probably do it.

What do you think about this:

Jets give: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller
Jets get: Cutler, Scheffler

Browns give: Quinn, Rogers, 3rd
Browns get: NYJ 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller

Broncos give: Cutler, Scheffler
Broncos get: Quinn, Rogers, NYJ 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Had to change the third. Cleveland doesnt have one.

Rohirrim
03-20-2009, 01:12 PM
DE: Thomas, Peterson
NT: Rogers, Fields
DE: Marks, Powell
OLB: Cushing, Moss, Dumervil
OLB: B.Bailey, Woodyard
ILB: Maualuga, Davis
ILB: D.Williams, Larsen
CB: C.Bailey, Bell
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
FS: Delmas, Hill
SS: Dawkins, Barrett

That wouldn't be such a bad D to start out with next season. ;D

lex
03-20-2009, 01:17 PM
BTW, I noticed you dont have Connor Barwin being taken.

socalorado
03-20-2009, 01:19 PM
What do you think about this:

Jets give: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller
Jets get: Cutler, Scheffler

Browns give: Quinn, Rogers, 3rd
Browns get: NYJ 3rd, NYJ 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller

Broncos give: Cutler, Scheffler
Broncos get: Quinn, Rogers, NYJ 1st, 2nd, Clev 3rd

DING! WINNER!
YEah, all parties have to at least get fair value.
CLE getting future picks in bulk puts to rest the QB issue. Anderson for a year, and a possible QB next year with ammo to move around to accomodate Bradford.
DEN get immediate picks and players, but they are giving up the Immediate sure fire Pro Bowl QB, so its fair value.
NYJ get Cutler, nuff said.

BroncoMan4ever
03-20-2009, 03:48 PM
1) Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – New face of the franchise.
2) Rams: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia – Orlando Pace’s replacement.
3) Chiefs: Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest – Best player in the draft.
4) Seahawks: Jason Brown, OT, Baylor – Walter Jones’ heir.
5) Browns: Brian Orakpo, OLB, Texas – Need a pass rusher.
6) Bengals: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College – Could use a force inside.
7) Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri – Al Davis loves speed.
8) Jaguars: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech – Need WRs badly.
9) Packers: Everette Brown, OLB, Florida State – A pass rusher for the 3-4 move.
10) 49ers: Mark Sanchez, QB, Southern California – Too much to pass up.
11) Bills: Aaron Maybin, OLB, Penn State – Aaron Schobel needs help.
12) Broncos: Brian Cushing, OLB, Southern California – Versatile and solid.
13) Redskins: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee – Jason Taylor’s gone.
14) Saints: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi – Just Sedrick Ellis isn’t enough.
15) Texans: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State – Best player available.
16) Chargers: Tyson Jackson, DE, Louisiana State – Replacement for Igor Olshansky.
17) Broncos: Rey Maualuga, ILB, Southern California – New leader of the defense.
18) Bears: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama – Joins Chris Williams as bookend tackles.
19) Buccaneers: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State – Familiar with Raheem Morris.
20) Lions: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi – Lions get their tackle 19 picks later.
21) Eagles: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona – Tackle is the #1 need for the Eagles.
22) Vikings: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida – A fun weapon to join Adrian Peterson.
23) Patriots: Larry English, OLB, Northern Illinois – A Patriots-type project.
24) Falcons: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois – Replacement for Domonique Foxworth.
25) Dolphins: Clay Matthews, OLB, Southern California – A Bill Parcells kind of guy.
26) Ravens: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland – Local product fills a huge need.
27) Colts: Evander Hood, DT, Missouri – Colts value defensive lineman.
28) Eagles: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State – Should replace L.J. Smith nicely.
29) Giants: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers – Insurance for Plaxico Burress.
30) Titans: Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest – Nick Harper is getting up there.
31) Cardinals: Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech – An athletic replacement for Antonio Smith.
32) Steelers: Max Unger, OL, Oregon – Versatile player at Champs’ weakest position.
33) Lions: James Laurinaitis, ILB, Ohio State – Their new Chris Spielman.
34) Patriots: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut – A smart player at a position of major need.
35) Rams: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina – Torry Holt is gone.
36) Browns: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College – Traded away Shaun Rogers.
37) Seahawks: Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia – Traded Julian Peterson away.
38) Bengals: Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State – Local product provides insurance for Cedrick Benson.
39) Jaguars: William Beatty, OT, Connecticut – Tre Thomas is a short-term solution.
40) Raiders: Alex Mack, C, California – Fills needs and played for Raiders new OL coach.
41) Packers: Sean Smith, CB, Utah – Harris and Woodson are aging.
42) Bills: Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina – Athletic TE fills a huge need.
43) 49ers: Jarron Gilbert, DE, San Jose St. – Provides size and flexibility on the DL.
44) Dolphins: D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt – Great value to replace Andre’ Goodman.
45) Giants: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia – Would be a nice replacement for Derrick Ward.
46) Texans: William Moore, S, Missouri – The run on safeties begins.
47) Patriots: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State – Just seems like a New England-type of guy.
48) Broncos: Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan – Would learn next to Brian Dawkins.
49) Bears: Rashod Johnson, S, Alabama – Similar skill set to the departed Mike Brown.
50) Browns: Paul Kruger, DE, Utah – Could help 3-4 defense in a number of ways.
51) Cowboys: Patrick Chung, S, Oregon – Roy Williams’ replacement.
52) Broncos: Sen’Derrick Marks, DE, Auburn – A solid 5-technique for the 3-4 switch.
53) Eagles: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut – Brian Westbrook needs a solid backup.
54) Vikings: Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma – Vikings value OL very high.
55) Falcons: Shawn Nelson, TE, Oklahoma State – Big target for Matt Ryan.
56) Dolphins: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State – Nice compliment to Ted Ginn.
57) Ravens: Jairus Byrd, CB, Oregon – Ravens have lost a ton of CBs.
58) Patriots: Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina – Patriots OTs are getting older.
59) Panthers: Fili Moala, DT, Southern California – Desperately need DT depth.
60) Giants: Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State - David Diehl may be best suited inside.
61) Colts: Duke Robinson, G, Oklahoma – Best player available.
62) Titans: Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma – Even with Nate Washington, could use WR help.
63) Cardinals: Eric Wood, C, Louisville – Interior-OL is a need of the NFC Champs.
64) Steelers: Chris Baker, DE, Hampton – A solid prospect to groom for the future.

Three-Way Trade
Broncos trade Jay Cutler
Browns trade Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers
Jets trade 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks; and 2010 1st round pick

Broncos receive Brady Quinn, Shaun Rogers, and Jets 1st and 2nd round picks
Browns receive Jets 3rd round pick and 2010 1st round pick
Jets receive Jay Cutler

Broncos Depth Chart
QB: Quinn, Simms
RB: Buckhalter, Arrington, Jordan, Torain
FB: Hillis
WR: Marshall, Gaffney, Jackson
WR: Royal, Stokley
TE: Graham, Putzier
LT: Clady, Polumbus
LG: Hamilton, Paxton
C: Wiegmann, Lichtensteiger
RG: Kuper, Young
RT: Harris

DE: Thomas, Peterson
NT: Rogers, Fields
DE: Marks, Powell
OLB: Cushing, Moss, Dumervil
OLB: B.Bailey, Woodyard
ILB: Maualuga, Davis
ILB: D.Williams, Larsen
CB: C.Bailey, Bell
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
FS: Delmas, Hill
SS: Dawkins, Barrett

i hate the idea of the trading of Cutler, but on just a sheer value looking at it like an NFL exec would, that trade would definitely need to be considered. i mean we would be taking a few large steps back on the QB side, but if Cassel could look borderline pro bowler in 1 year under McDaniels, Quinn would be able to also, plus we get much needed help on the DL and picks that we could use to solidify the rest of the D.

bowever the Browns are getting raped in that trade and we would need to include Scheff in the deal as well. they just let Winslow go and are in need of a new injury prone TE with pass catching skills.

BroncoMan4ever
03-20-2009, 03:52 PM
DE: Thomas, Peterson
NT: Rogers, Fields
DE: Marks, Powell
OLB: Cushing, Moss, Dumervil
OLB: B.Bailey, Woodyard
ILB: Maualuga, Davis
ILB: D.Williams, Larsen
CB: C.Bailey, Bell
CB: Goodman, J.Williams
FS: Delmas, Hill
SS: Dawkins, Barrett

That wouldn't be such a bad D to start out with next season. ;D

if we are going to go into next season with Boss and Woodyard as our guys on the outside, it is going to be bad. i love Woodyard, but in a 3-4 i think his best chance of being a contributor is on the inside, and Boss won't last more than a couple games before injury

on a side note, has anyone heard anything about if Boss will be capable of coming back from microfracture surgery?

elsid13
03-20-2009, 03:54 PM
if we are going to go into next season with Boss and Woodyard as our guys on the outside, it is going to be bad. i love Woodyard, but in a 3-4 i think his best chance of being a contributor is on the inside, and Boss won't last more than a couple games before injury

on a side note, has anyone heard anything about if Boss will be capable of coming back from microfracture surgery?

The was article that Boss is already working out and should be cleared for full contact by camp.

lex
03-20-2009, 04:15 PM
What do you think about this:

Jets give: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller
Jets get: Cutler, Scheffler

Browns give: Quinn, Rogers, 3rd
Browns get: NYJ 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller

Broncos give: Cutler, Scheffler
Broncos get: Quinn, Rogers, NYJ 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Had to change the third. Cleveland doesnt have one.


Had to switch some stuff around. Cleveland doesnt have a 3rd.

Jets give: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller
Jets get: Cutler, Scheffler

Browns give: Quinn, Rogers, 2nd
Browns get: NYJ 2nd, NYJ 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller

Broncos give: Cutler, Scheffler
Broncos get: Quinn, Rogers, NYJ 1st, 3rd, Cle 2nd

SonOfLe-loLang
03-20-2009, 04:48 PM
That is a TON the jets are giving up.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-20-2009, 04:52 PM
if we are going to go into next season with Boss and Woodyard as our guys on the outside, it is going to be bad. i love Woodyard, but in a 3-4 i think his best chance of being a contributor is on the inside, and Boss won't last more than a couple games before injury

on a side note, has anyone heard anything about if Boss will be capable of coming back from microfracture surgery?

In this scenario, Doom would man the other OLB spot. One of those spots is basically like a standing DE anyway and isnt asked to do much in coverage, if at all.

barryr
03-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Again, if you want an effective 3-4 defense, you need OLB's that are pass rush types. Cushing is more a blitzing type OLB who would work well with a 4-3 defense. If he's at OLB in a 3-4 and guys like Bailey and Woodyard(nonpass rush types as well), then the Broncos better have/find a DL who can get pressure on the QB and not your typical 3-4 DL whose job is to mainly occupy blockers and stout against the run.

Tombstone RJ
03-21-2009, 03:42 PM
Had to switch some stuff around. Cleveland doesnt have a 3rd.

Jets give: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller
Jets get: Cutler, Scheffler

Browns give: Quinn, Rogers, 2nd
Browns get: NYJ 2nd, NYJ 2010 1st, 2nd, Clemens, Keller

Broncos give: Cutler, Scheffler
Broncos get: Quinn, Rogers, NYJ 1st, 3rd, Cle 2nd

As another poster already pointed out, that is a hellava lot for the Jets to give up.

oubronco
03-21-2009, 04:38 PM
Cutler is not going anywhere and noone would give up that much but we'll wait and see