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cutthemdown
03-16-2009, 05:48 PM
How many QBs with this much promise were traded when they were 25? Montana was an old man when he was traded and they had Steve Young to take his place, who is another HOF QB. You almost never see a QB in Cutlers position traded, if it all.

What you call "accomplished" is the same as saying older.

If Cutler is that good, and that young, then we shouldn't have any problem getting an older accomplished qb for him. One with maybe say 3-4 really good years left like Peyton Manning.

Cutler compared himself to Manning and Manning is getting old. Colts would be fools to not want the younger version right? Wrong!!!!

Not one team with a decent starting QB will offer that qb for Cutler. SO that leaves us other top line players like Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson. Since QBS are valued higher the Vikings and Lions would have to throw in a 2nd round pick with those players to make it work. You do agree young stud qbs worth more then rb's and wr's right? Since you are always right I'm sure those teams are offering stuff like that.

Since Cutler and his agent have seen how vince young and lienart did nothing and were also first round picks they will understand Cutler is worth 3 first round picks. So get a deal done Bus Cook, let's see what the NFL really thinks your boy is worth.

I bet the deals come in low ball, because no one wants a player like Cutler with all that risk unless you can get him cheap.

lex
03-16-2009, 05:53 PM
If Cutler is that good, and that young, then we shouldn't have any problem getting an older accomplished qb for him. One with maybe say 3-4 really good years left like Peyton Manning.

Cutler compared himself to Manning and Manning is getting old. Colts would be fools to not want the younger version right? Wrong!!!!

Not one team with a decent starting QB will offer that qb for Cutler. SO that leaves us other top line players like Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson. Since QBS are valued higher the Vikings and Lions would have to throw in a 2nd round pick with those players to make it work. You do agree young stud qbs worth more then rb's and wr's right? Since you are always right I'm sure those teams are offering stuff like that.

Since Cutler and his agent have seen how vince young and lienart did nothing and were also first round picks they will understand Cutler is worth 3 first round picks. So get a deal done Bus Cook, let's see what the NFL really thinks your boy is worth.

I bet the deals come in low ball, because no one wants a player like Cutler with all that risk unless you can get him cheap.

Its comical that you think youre making a point.

cutthemdown
03-16-2009, 06:00 PM
Its comical that you think youre making a point.

So then you don't think Cutler worth Calvin Johnson and say a 2nd round pick.

Or Adrian Peterson and a 2nd round pick?

Cutler thinks he is top end talent, and he plays the premium position. You don't trade stud 25 yr old qbs for nothing but draft picks. Like you said 25 yr old franchise qbs don't get traded. They don't because the cost would be enormous.

Broncos should tell Bus Cook to look for deals. Either a combination of a couple really good position players, or another qb that is on Cutlers level.

Instead of being a comical critic how about you pull your head out.

24champ
03-16-2009, 06:03 PM
Its comical that you think youre making a point.

Amazing how some people like Cut can cruise through life and continue to function with their heads firmly lodged in their hindquarters.

BroncoMan4ever
03-17-2009, 03:37 AM
How many QBs with this much promise were traded when they were 25? Montana was an old man when he was traded and they had Steve Young to take his place, who is another HOF QB. You almost never see a QB in Cutlers position traded, if it all.

What you call "accomplished" is the same as saying older.

not only that, but when Montana was traded he had gone through a 2 season stretch in which he played 1 game, and Young in that time had solidified himself as the QB for that team.


this would be the first time something like this has happened. Brees i guess would be the closest thing to trading a 25 year old pro bowl QB i can think of, but even in that situation SD had a 1st round QB lined up to take his job already for a couple years before they traded him.

and you can't even really give the Falcons **** for trading Favre because he had played in like one game for them his rookie year and was terrible. and with Tampa Bay and Young, he was just a backup there. neither of those teams saw those guys as pro bowl players because at the time they were backups and young guys, not guys like Jay who has solidified himself as one of the top QBs in the leagu and has gone to a pro bowl.


Stupidity like McDaniels is a rare occurence in the NFL for a HC. his stupidity is actually making Al Davis look like a genius, and at least Al has senility to blame for his stupidity, McDaniels is just a retard

BroncoMan4ever
03-17-2009, 03:54 AM
If Cutler is that good, and that young, then we shouldn't have any problem getting an older accomplished qb for him. One with maybe say 3-4 really good years left like Peyton Manning.

Cutler compared himself to Manning and Manning is getting old. Colts would be fools to not want the younger version right? Wrong!!!!

Not one team with a decent starting QB will offer that qb for Cutler. SO that leaves us other top line players like Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson. Since QBS are valued higher the Vikings and Lions would have to throw in a 2nd round pick with those players to make it work. You do agree young stud qbs worth more then rb's and wr's right? Since you are always right I'm sure those teams are offering stuff like that.

you really are a moron dude. exactly, not one team with a QB already in place is going to trade their QB for a new one regardless of who it is. for example in 1992 the Dolphins could have offered Marino for Elway straight up and Denver would have laughed their balls off at the stupidity of the proposal, same in Miami if Denver initiated the deal. those are the 2 best ever to play the position, and had equal wear and tear on their arms and about the same amount of time left in their careers, and neither team would make the deal. the reason...there is nothing to be gained by getting another good QB when you already have one.


Since Cutler and his agent have seen how vince young and lienart did nothing and were also first round picks they will understand Cutler is worth 3 first round picks. So get a deal done Bus Cook, let's see what the NFL really thinks your boy is worth.

I bet the deals come in low ball, because no one wants a player like Cutler with all that risk unless you can get him cheap.

well lets see, a 25 year old pro bowl QB who has only scratched the surface of the potential he has, with a howitzer for an arm, with 3 years remaining on a reasonable rookie contract, and the fact that good QBs never hit the open market and with a weak QB draft class and no good options available in FA, and the fact that their are probably about 20 teams(probably more) who would be dramatically improved by the addition of this guy. yeah i think Denver could land an absolutely insane deal for Jay.

a team like Minnesotta that is a QB away from being elite would pay out the ass for Jay Cutler. Detroit, a team rebuilding and looking to become relevant would pay big time. the Jets, rebuilding and just lost Favre will pay. the Bills, Cleveland would love to get a guy like Jay, the Bears would get wood at the thought of Jay in a Chicago uniform, the Texans because Schaub isn't working, and i guarantee Kubes would love to groom Jay, the Panthers would love a guy like Jay to take over for Delhomme, everyone knows Tampa was interested big time, the 49ers would love a franchise QB since they haven't had one since Young, Seattle would love to upgrade, the Rams would probably be interested also.

12 teams that would be very interested in aquiring Jay. and as is the case in everything with the NFL a few othe dark horse candidates are their.

point being, the minute it is known Jay is available and we are accepting offers, we are not going to be lowballed, their will be a bidding war and big names and high picks will be offered.

the problem is, if we go through with a deal, we become a team looking for a franchise QB again, and become a doormat in the NFL, regardless of who we get in return for Jay.

you don't trade franchise QBs because no matter what you get in return it is never going to be enough, or worthy of a franchise QB because of the rarity in finding a franchise QB.

every year around 10 new QB's enter the NFL and on average maybe 2 become starters and rarely is one of those 2 a franchise QB. look at the 06 draft, Jay is the only still starting and worth a damn. but a lot of players who play every other position on the field come into the league and bunches of them from each position become big time players and stars. it isn't the same with QB's

almost all teams go years and through QB after QB before they can find someone capable of being a decent starter for a few seasons while the search continues for a franchise QB.